The Imaginary Memory Palace Method of Hugh of St. Victor | Training Drills & "Noah's Ark" Case Study
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- How would you like to use a Memory Palace over and over again?
One that has dozens of stations in it? If not hundreds?
Hugh of St. Victor created Memory Palace training exercises that might help you create them.
Even better:
He made a Memory Palace based on Noah's Ark that he used to teach his students the art of memory.
In this detailed case study, I take you into the teaching of Hugh of St. Victor.
Drawing upon his Mystic Ark lectures, the Didascalicon and commentaries by Conrad Rudolph, Ivan Illich and Mary Carruthers, you're in for a real treat.
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I was taught this technique when I was a 9 years old kid, it has been of a lot of value in my life. I also developed my own technique which is only based on images.
Great! Any examples of how you've used it for short and long memorization/learning projects?
Memory palace technique works.
I’ve learnt 10k words/vocabs in just 3 months. Thank u sir ❤
Thank you for putting the techniques into action and congratulations on your success. That is fantastic!
Km amir, could you please mention the exact methods and techniques used
how bro
Thanks for reminding us of Salman Rushdie. The attack on him was horrific. It's great that he survived and hopefully he writes many more books.
Thanks for noticing that point. I hope he writes many more books too.
Did you ever see Cronenberg's eXistenZ? It was in many ways a comment on the first acts against Rushdie. I need to watch it again sometime soon and go through some of the interviews that came out around that time.
There's one where Cronenberg actually interviewed Rushdie that was quite interesting.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM I have not seen it. Thanks for the recommendation.
I just went through it. Really interesting and in some cases timeless questions about the nature of imagination related to art that relate to the art of memory.
I've dabbled with memory techniques since the 1970's, when I read a book by Harry Lorayne. Then I discovered Tony Buzan's work. I have found that these methods do work, but, for me at least, they only work in the short term. I have never been able to lock anything into my long term memory using them. There are two areas where I find them impossible to use. One is memorizing musical scores for guitar and the other is memorising chess games and chess opening systems.
They are all insufficient, if not entirely lacking in adding the rocket fuel that makes mnemonics worth doing. Here it is:
th-cam.com/video/2CthE_Napjg/w-d-xo.html
I hope you’ll give it another go.
No doubt Harry Lorayne's links and pegs would not work on music and chess... but has someone else come up with a system that specifically for music and chess?
Always love your passion for this topic. I admire your efforts to help people through fundamental skill trainning.
Thanks for your kind words and all your support! 🙏
Thank you so much Andrew for sharing, using a memory palace to heal from trauma ist a powerful way. Thank you so much for giving hope and strength through sharing your story . Your methods of memory can and will be a bright way out in the light! It gives people hope to help themselves and being active not being passive anymore. All the best from Munich!
Vielen Dank! More coming soon! 🙏
This is intriguing but a bit beyond me for now. I'll come back to it later after I have a little bit more experience in memory methods. Thank you anthony.
Look forward to your thoughts then!
Also Thank you for the great resources you've posted here. Thanks again. ( still working on the alphabet Memory Palaces lists.)
My pleasure!
Dear Anthony : Thank you for this Video! - I hope this helps me Show Up. I am in the same boat as the person that sent you that message in this video. I will start practicing this immediately! My Procedural Memory has a serious glitch in that it literally sabotages all my efforts to follow through to do things I dislike, but that have to get done. As a result, things that I like to do also get postponed -- like advancing on my Memory Palaces and learning other things I want and need to do. I will use these systems and report on my findings. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing this.
Have you ever encountered the technique I used to re-train my own procedural memory that kept distracting me and causing unwanted suffering?
I share the story and a powerful reconditioning technique here:
th-cam.com/video/kvtYjdriSpM/w-d-xo.html
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thank you ! Got It ! " We've got to be able to get past this... we can't afford to NOT SEE and NOT EXTRACT VALUE even from the things we DON"T LIKE, because we are so stuck on the things that WE DO LIKE." Brilliant !
Great summation of the core message. Thanks for checking it out!
I use imaginary memory palaces. I tested it and by using other methods I combined it and got great results.
Currently testing for exams and making it more unforgettable and distinct. Although it's taking time currently it is still faster than old learning techniques.
Time is always required wherever there are ideas and objects. The new video dropping today on spaced repetition covers that.
Thanks for sharing this Anthony! 🕉🙏
My pleasure and thanks for checking it out.
Have you used any imaginary Memory Palaces yourself so far in your journey?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM yes I have , though I find that my minds eye doesnt see the loci as easily as in a "real" memory palace. I've even tried from games in VR and it's as if theres lacking "resolution or details" for my brain to store the palace as if a real place. I guess it's a case by case thing depending on people 🤷♂️
These things definitely do depend on the people - and also the amount of experimentation each individual engages in.
Thank you very much for this wonderful lecture. T. S. Eliot asks; Where is the life we have lost in living ? Where is the wisdom we lost in knowledge ? Where is the knowledge we lost in information ? For me Hugh of St Victor understood the need for progress away from old interpretations of theology. However he also believed that the treasures of the past should be preserved. Hence The Ark is the ideal vehicle for this transition. Wisdom becomes a key word. In our modern culture we have mountains of information and piles of knowledge, Wisdom is scarce. We can learn much from Hugh of St. Victor as he offers a practical solution to the questions of T. S. Eliot. Wisdom, knowledge and information become unified in the perception of a life well lived. Thank you for this excellent lecture. I am inspired to learn more.
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Thank you for your replies. I have begun to teach my Mum how to construct a memory palace. Alzheimer's patients often remember their childhood home and give that address as where they live. I asked her to reconstruct the home as a three dimensional house that she can enter and access memories from the past. We spoke for a couple of hours about her memories. I then started to talk about other houses she lived in and the memories those houses contain. She really enjoyed the experience of moving through the house and recalling her memories. I also discovered childhood memories that I had forgotten. I was interacting with the imagery too. Anything that increases the quality of life of dementia sufferers is a great gift. After reading the comments on a number of other lectures you have given it is easy to see how important your work is. You are touching a lot of people in a good way. Hugh of St. Victor would be proud. @@AnthonyMetivierMMM
This is great news and wonderful for her and for you as well. Continuing to work with memory in this way will provide many rewards.
Thanks for being part of the conversation and the mission and I hope to see more posts from you soon!
Awesome, thanks a lot...
Thanks for checking it out.
Are you currently using Memory Palaces yourself?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Yes! But your content is above everything I've seen about it. It's really taking me to the next level!
Hey Anthony, I'm glad to see this video. I recently purchased a copy of "The Medieval Craft of Memory" (which you recommended in a video, so two pieces of cake for you) and just happened to be reading the chapter on Hugh of St Victor's Ark shortly before I saw you had done a video on it. Fate? Who knows? Anyway, thank you for this; it is super interesting. It would also be awesome to see a video on memoria ad verborum techniques.
Definitely good timing then, if only by coincidence.
Anything lacking specific clarity in the verborun realm? I can quite potentially cover it and all the better so if there are questions that you have. 🙏
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Cool. I was actually wondering what good, reliable methods there are for remembering large amounts of information word-for-word. Thomas Bradwardine talks about converting syllables into images and then combining images to make words, but I wonder if this is the only method, and also how well this works.
The use of linking images to words isn't the only way. But it's almost certainly the most robust for most of us.
As I mentioned in this video, the only way to know how well it works is to try it for yourself. There's more science and more records from memory competitors than anyone has time to read.
So taking up the discipline for oneself truly is the only way to verify.
And where struggles with the technique are found, exercises like Hugh's are key to strengthening weak spatial-visualization muscles.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thanks for the advice. I definitely want to try out Hugh's exercises.
That's great, Andrew. Enjoy the experience and please keep us posted on your progress with it as time and memory allow.
You really have to read the book language of creation by Matthieu Pageau so you can look at these techniques from these great ancient men through the symbolic lense that they saw the world through, I believe memory and symbolic thinking are inextricably linked, they saw reality through imbedded microcosms and linked things in ways the modern world cannot compare to, and i believe discovering proper true symbolic thinking and the memory traditions together is key to deciphering alot of these ancient memory techniques as well and ancient texts in general.
Thank you for the suggestion.
In a future video I will question the notion that there is any such thing as "proper true symbolic thinking." This is a Platonic notion that were Plato alive today I strongly believe he would:
A) Be shocked at how it has been exploited
B) Do all he could to repair the damage such notions have created
That's my guess, at least, strongly premised in Plato himself, but often missed.
Note also that the great memory masters did not see "through the symbolic lens." Rather, they experience and shared that symbolism appears in the thing that is beyond name and form. To symbolize it is to miss the nuances of entelechy so essential to individual and, potentially, societal freedom.
@Anthony Metivier Thank you for your response I appreciate you greatly and I respect you highly and follow your videos and have learned alot from you, but I have to say rejecting the possibility of proper symbolic thinking is the same as making a claim about what proper symbolic thinking is without realizing. Symbolism is the manner in which the world comes together in order to have meaning, in a way symbolism is when a meaning and a fact are together and are full because the fact is full of meaning, and so in that sense symbolism let's say or symbols they are little places of epiphany when we all of a sudden intuit symbolism it's because we see the world as being full of meaning and full of pattern and so in that way it is the very manner in which reality lays its self out to us, the way in which the world comes to have meaning for us, so in the stories let's say sometimes those meanings can be more and more concentrated and in the stories of the bible or in icons or in an image let's say like the cross then you have a huge condensation of meaning into one place right? So some symbols become you know extremely powerful but you know anything can be symbolic in the sense that everything that exists carries a certain level of meaning to it so everything is symbolic. Also Plato's ideas lead to a symbolism of secret dualism.
The forms, and some form of corruption.
Particulars are some kind of corruption of the form.
Symbolism from the church for example always has been, and via the pageaus has been explicitly revealed to be fractal.
Particulars of a fractal pattern are no less the pattern for being particular. Proper true symbolic thinking is not contrasting symbols to other symbols but to the signifier of the symbol.
@Anthony Metivier Symbolism is about reality. Everything is both one and multiple at the same time, so for example a chair is one thing right? It's a chair, but a chair is also many things right? It's legs and it's a back and it's legs are also all many things it's made of wood it's made of paint it's made of all these different identities and so identities stack up so everything you encounter is both one and multiple, now the way in which things are one is a complete mystery to the modern scientists it's a given, like why do I think a chair is one thing? What makes it one thing? because it's a bunch of things and it's a bunch of a bunch of thing's and it scales all the way down to like quantum fields or whatever right? And so this is the problem now that as science kind of reaches its limit they're realizing the problem of identity the problem of you know they use words like emergence and all these kind of words to try to talk about the manner in which multiple things jump up into unity and so once this happens even in the scientific world once they realize the problem of unity and multiplicity coexisting and they realize that's what Plato was talking about that's what Aristotle was talking about and that's what Aquinas was talking about they were talking about it thousands of years ago and the weird scientific age is like a strange parenthesis where people stopped realizing the problem and just started looking at all the details and didn't realize that they're not accounting for the manner in which things coalesce into unities, that things have names that things have identities right? And that this is related to something like consciousness or something like intelligence. This can help people understand for example religion or ancient texts so much better because you have at the outsetof scripture for example you have a description there's heaven and there's earth and even in the middle ages you read someone like Dante and he completely linked it with Aristotle and said heaven is the place of actuality and earth is the place of potentiality so you have names you have identities you have principles and then you have potentials in which those principles can exist and so a chair has a identity and we know and it's a purpose right? It's not just a general identity it's like a chair is for sitting that's what it's for and so it's final cause will legislate what can participate how it gathers unity together, so it's easier to see in terms of human interactions obviously so for example a sports team is a great way to understand it like you have a team you have a bunch of people and those people can change right? They can actually change they don't have to be the same people but there's something joining then together there's a purpose joining them together and that purpose is the unitive principle which makes the team exist and that purpose is to play basketball or whatever and to play within a hierarchy of different teams that play together, and so the players are potential they are potentials in which the identities of the team can gather together and create unity and so it's the same with anything in reality everything that exists between one and multiple has that reality, this ultimately scales up and leads up to God, there's a jump at some point obviously God is beyond all description definitely that's necessary but it definitely scales up in a way that that is not arbitrary and the reason why I emphasize this so much is one of the problems people have today is that they think that religion is arbitrary and superstitious and that it doesn't make sense like it's just made up like why would I go to a building and like stand there and sing songs and eat bread and wine like what is all of this nonsense like what is going on and so what I try to help people understand is that reality is the reality that you participate in church is the same reality you participate in every single human interaction that you have, that is like let's say you sit together for a family meal well that family meal is the thing that is binding you together and then there's a ritual in which you participate in order for that to exist I mean like you can't do anything at the table there's certain things you can do and there's certain things you can't do like if you stand on the table during dinner you're going to ruin dinner right? Like if you lay down on the floor during dinner if you scream at each other during dinner you're going to ruin dinner so there is this ritual there is this pattern there's a pattern of being that makes a family dinner exist, a pattern that makes it what it is, it's the joining if multiples into one and those multiples are not arbitrary they're like a dance or like a pattern they're like a breathing in and a breathing out and so you sit together you eat the same meal you talk to each other everybody has to listen to each other like it's a liturgical thing a family dinner, now you might ask well that's just a liturgical tradition that I don't accept that's just customs or cultural habits to make us all feel comfortable and welcome and it could just ss easily be that the best thing to do at a dinner party is to stand on the table and do something crazy if our customs were so constructed in a different way... Well then you need to understand that it's just nonsense I mean in the case of standing on the table maybe that could exist in some culture but if I take a dump on the dinner table that simply is just not going to exist as a united structure there is a limit I mean there is flexibility in the potential right? There is always flexibility but there is a manner in which that flexibility starts to break down on the edges you can't have anything like if you encounter someone and you have a conversation well that conversation is ritualized and you will talk to them but if you spit in their face then you're breaking the communion and these patterns are inevitable but it doesn't mean that there's only one way to do it there could be flexibility but that flexibility just like a chair can be made out of a lot of things but a chair cannot be made out of unfrozen water it's just not possible the chair will reject the water, there is a manner in which potentiality is bound to an identity in a certain pattern that holds it together for a certain way. So let's bring it back to a religious ritual for example is that so our rituals scale up so we have small rituals like you know you brush your teeth you have to brush your teeth in a certain way you can't brush your teeth in anyway like if you brush your teeth with a razor blade then you're going to be in trouble right? So you have to brush your teeth in a certain manner there's flexibility but there's a reality to that and that is for a certain "good" and then you have families and you have communities that have ritualized encounters for a "good" that is maybe a little higher and church is that but for the highest good, we gather together and we attend and we celebrate the highest good the "God" of infinite love and "Goodness" and so we come together we read and first of all we recognize that good and then we act together in a way that makes attend and makes us let's say connect together towards that highest good, and this is something like I said that happens in a soccer team we do the same thing in a soccer team it's just that the soccer team doesn't have or rather isn't attuned to the highest good it's in tune to a lower good which is that it's fine to win a soccer game and be in a soccer team but you can't base all of human civilization on soccer you simply need higher "goods" and that's where religion inevitably becomes a part of any real civilization because you have to find a way to identify join together in that good and recognize and celebrate that good, so basically a community at large has to recognize some purpose of their own unity that brings them all together or else they simply are not a community or else they are a crowd or else they are the suburbs, suburbs are a great example of a break down of that process because you know if you think of an ancient town you would have a church usually somewhere in the middle or maybe in the east like it's in a prominent place the church spire is higher than all the buildings and so the town exists and they can all look up and see the thing that binds them together no matter where they are at in the town, they can all see it at the same time, and then on Sundays they go there and they do the same things at the same time to recognize the good which is binding them and then lower than that you'll have like a civic building you know maybe a market places or communion which we recognize but have to be submitted to that higher good because if the civic authorities aren't submitted to the God of infinite love they're going to become corrupt and they do become corrupt they become obsessed with economy they become obsessed with trade they become obsessed with power over people and then you scale that down now the suburbs is a great example because they said no we don't need the churches, but the church is in the structure of the way the city can even exist properly in unity so if you remove the church then it will start to fall apart first it might switch to being the civic building being the center but then at some point that will break down and then will switch and you will have something like the mall and the mall is going to be the last remainder of like unity in cities and then you get rid of the malls and nownyou just have individual points spread out on land where there is zero connection you do not know your neighbor you don't have any common projects and that is an inevitable consequence of getting rid of the higher identities or higher meanings that we participate in.
@Anthony Metivier Everyone in the ancient world would have seen reality in this way and I think personally including memory masters, they would of understood the patterns of heaven and earth time and space in their ancient definitions not modern ones, and memory masters would have seen how that relates to encoding a meaning or abstract principles/heaven, with a fact/earth in order to actually have a memorable concrete reality in both your thoughts and everything else by extension in fact I don't think they would of even had to think about it truly truly ancient people even before any texts we have now probably would of had a much higher level of this perception and just experienced reality this way like aboriginals and their memory techniques, they understood what the macrocosm was in relation to the microcosm and saw reality as a series of representations of its cosmic principles. It's like the mind is a garden analogy you use. The garden of Eden is the ultimate version, you can't escape the patterns and this scales up across all reality. I think we in the modern world have lost complete connection to this way of seeing the world, we actually do not understand ancient texts at all and we tend to deconstruct the texts from a materialistic lense and the same with memory techniques people just look at the practical aspect of it and not what the practice truly really is and what it means.
@Anthony Metivier Forgive me for my enormous response, and also horrible grammar, but I hope you will think at least about some of the stuff I said here and consider checking out the book because without it maybe what I'm saying might sound like gibberish 😅 Jordan Peterson has an interview with the author Matthieu Pageau if you're interested in getting to know him, I think his work will change the world as we know it tbh.
Listening for the 3rd time. Hopefully I'll understand enough to apply what's discussed in the video
Much is learned by application. Enjoy the journey!
This is awesome I just completed my first go round with Reading Ivan Illich in The Vineyard of The Text. Thanks Dr. Anthony GB
So great that you’re reading it. Any key takeaways?
Clarity on didascalicon
Yes, it's a very helpful book for that purpose.
Super appreciate this lesson. He certainly this opens up my options 🎉 thank you!
My pleasure! Thanks so much for being there for the premiere and for all your support of the channel and memory itself!
You are so articulate
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I love this video ❤🥲
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I think this is why I like devices like memory boards, beads, totems etc. it’s like the best of both worlds. Maybe there’s an advantage to basing stations upon pre-existing landmarks, like having to do more mental heavy lifting for a more solid/ permanent association?
But I do like the idea of being able to sculpt a distinctive pathway by hand
I feel that the quick MP drawings I make are a lot like Memory Boards. I suppose a nice experiment would be to add coins or objects to them. 🙏
I really love your content. As a catholic viewer, I got a lot of helpful hints to study and memorize information the best way possible, all thanks to your Chanel. Im following you since last month, but I can already see some differences in the way I learn things.
Obs: sorry for any grammatical errors, I'm brazilian 😶
Thanks for your kind words and glad to read that you're experiencing improvements.
Anything you'd like to see covered in the future on this channel?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thanks for your attention on my humble coment, but I really have no suggestions. Every single video has something to teach me and surprises me with an exotic way to learn. That's why I think I have not much to add here, as a matter of fact, I never thought that a Memory Palace could help me in my spiritual life, but you showed me how these things can work together, so Im really glad to know your Chanel and talk to you. Good Night!
I'm so glad you've been able to see how it all comes together. The more we practice, the more it seems to deepen, so I would suggest leaning into it as much as you can for maximum results.
Thanks again for your comment and I look forward to your next post as time allows. It helps the channel a great deal and I love hearing from you! :-)
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thanks again for the tips, I really appreciate your attention with me. And I asure you that you will se see more posts from me on this Chanel, I'm happy to help you. Thx for the conversation and I hope to talk to you soon.
Fantastic and looking forward! :-)
Hi Anthony - Just wondering if 'the Field' exercise was still available to view? I remember seeing the link and watching it but never actually applied it. I'd like to change that ... but can't find it anywhere :(
Gotcha covered:
th-cam.com/video/eRFNXZxjGEU/w-d-xo.html
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thankyou so much :)
Just to add, I think when people decide to use video game terrain as MPs, they may or may not be taking into account the developers reliance on reusing elements of construction for time saving purposes. So, more audio and visual repetitious patterns, and less idiosyncrasies
That’s a fascinating point. So much of our convenience is minimized to maximize that of coders across digital media.
Is there any playlist for beginners?
In what order should I watch your channel
I am new to this channel
All beginner material is on my site. Please feel free to follow the links of search it up and register there.
Enjoy this journey and just shout out if you have further questions.
it feels so overwhelming bc idk if i should do each wall for each part of the answer bc for other palaces i have like each wall for an essay it’s too much to rmemeber
What are you memorizing?
Hey Antony how should I use memory palace to learn long definition not just single words or name I need to learn many definitions which I don’t know how to approach please help me
For this, well-formed Memory Palaces are key.
You’ll need to develop them in a way that accommodates the key term and the definition.
Typically when doing this, I place the key term in a corner, the definition on a wall. But it depends on the volume of information related to the definition.
There are quite a few ways to do it and you’ll need to experiment.
Sir "can I Visualise and imagine all the time in day and everyday"also with the memorisation all time everyday ?
Because I have many things to Memorise
Thanks, but please, my name is Anthony.
There are no "Memory Palace" police. You can explore and experiment as much as you please.
What are some of the things you want to memorize?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM English dictionary and little bit vocab of every language "i just fear if I use my visualisation and imagination all the time in day then I think I may have effect on my brain also fear of running out of storage in my brain" if possible make a short video on this 🙏
Watch this video and you'll never run out of Memory Palaces:
th-cam.com/video/Wn05eskjIFg/w-d-xo.html
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM thanku
My pleasure.
Hello Anthony!
I wanted to know do you know a memory technique to develop a musical ear or absolute ear?
Yes, and no.
Ear training is an area that a lot of people disagree about, and I haven’t completely mastered yet, certainly not for identifying augmented chords.
But for individual notes all you need is an alphabet list and for placement on an instrument, something like the Major System.
That way, you can bring name and location together.
You can also look into the Guidonian hand, which was used for music in the medieval period. I hope to learn it and make a video about it soon.
As I continue exploring, what kind of music do you want to learn?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Right now I'm playing piano and guitar, but how exactly am I supposed to do that with the major system, do I really have to use the major system for that? And when you say the alphabet, what does that mean?
In parenthesis I wanted to know if you know of books that speak of techniques other than the known techniques as the memory palace dominic system etc. ...?
Well, it doesn't have to be a book
Thanks, Ragnar.
It's a big discussion and is not something I can answer outside of the MMM Masterclass because the Major needs to be in play first and ideally also a 00-99 PAO.
I have ways of helping people develop the techniques that relate directly to how I use them for music, so will probably continue to keep these strategies within the full project. If you already have it, you'll find them on the FAQ page, and again, they assume that you're already conversant with the Major and ideally a 00-99 PAO.
There are many books that speak of other techniques, but the reason those techniques are less emphasized is simple: They're not as powerful.
In fact, some of them are so limited, it's questionable the extent to which they're even worth mentioning, except for historical purposes.
That, and we face another logical problem:
Every memory technique I've ever seen is inherently spatial. How could it not be? Information exists in space, usually multiple spaces at the same time.
So it's just a question of how optimally the technique uses space itself as the core foundation. The more it moves away from space or seeks to compress space (like various hand mnemonics), the more it is limiting the technique. This can have positive outcomes for very small amounts of information, but such limits tend not to reflect what serious learners are after.
So for volume and maximizing the possibilities of longer term retention, I cannot recommend anything apart from the Memory Palace technique and noticing the many ways in which the Major System and a 00-99 PAO are always already a kind of Memory Palace structure unto themselves. As is the alphabet, which we discussed a bit with relation to music in the previous video on this channel.
Give it a watch if you like. It's called "Aristotle's Nuclear Alphabet."
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I’m a bit lost…..is there video that explains this channel…what’s the first thing I need to do? Join online/ buy a book?
Thanks for checking this out.
There’s a free course on my website with exercises that help you lay the foundational memory skills that will unlock what we discuss on this channel.
Book and course purchases welcome and helpful to continue this work, but not required to complete the free course and its numerous exercises.
Please let me know if you have further questions and I’ll get back to you a.s.a.p. 🙏
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Great video, I discovered the Arc of Noah to be a wave length (sinewave Bb) of fire according to its ratio measurements, an autocad drawing shows this in a harmonic sense very clearly. Also i've found that word is transposed into tone using base of 6 Gematria. the Zodiac shows a whole range of word/names/signatures of tone. please reach out if this interest you, I'd love to share these findings
Thanks for sharing!
Sweeeeeeet
Interested
Anthony,
I am new to the channel and have long wondered if the information we take in never leaves our minds, we just don't have the ability to recall everything. Why do seemingly random memories you haven't accessed in decades return clearly when you least expect them?
These are great questions.
I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but partly we can consider how the great memory master Robert Fludd treated the concept of “everything” as an emergent property. As I interpret him/take inspiration from him, if everything were something we could remember, then it would include the experience of forgetting.
This is thus a kind of ontology of memory. Even if it isn’t true, I think it’s rewarding to ponder, especially in context with Realist vs Idealist contrasts.
More down to earth, contemporary memory science shows that memory is not in any one brain.
So when you have random things come up, they’re usually triggered by something else, and often someone else. Since our languages are networked through billions of people and zettabytes of storage in all kinds of media, the word memory is not really sufficient to the cause.
Another way to think of this is that memory isn’t something we do like breathing and blinking, though it does have that conscious interaction. Memory is much more something that is done to us. Due to network effects, individuals respond even before they know it is happening and the symbols can be shaded in spontaneously due to the nature of how brains interact with them.
Do these threads give you some food for thought?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM They certainly do. Thank you!
That's great! :-)
Hugh of St Victor
Memory palace
But I am using the Tree Of Life and Tarot as the palace.
Has anyone tried this before?
Yes, it is common to use cards as a Memory Palace and using trees is relatively common. I don't know if others have used that tree, but I talked about using one of its more modern iterations quite some time ago.
What are you memorizing in your Memory Palaces?
Hi Anthony, I have a question that baffles me . Do you remember the content or information that you remembered 10 or 7 or 5 year ago ?
I'm not sure what you mean.
You are baffled by whether strong recall skills are going to happen for you, or whether I enjoy them personally?
In my case, I most certainly do. I can clearly track back the amount of recall I enjoy to my work with the art of memory.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM after reading Harry lorayns book late 60s or early 70s I memorized
“James toe flip” (phone number) still in my mind 2024
To add to your fun
Noah took 7 each of clean animals on the ark, possibly so he could sacrifice one of each at the end of his journey
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Thanks for checking this one out. Have you tried using the ark as a Memory Palace before?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thank you ,🙏 No, I have not, but I will from now on.
Enjoy the experience!
I have read a lot about memory palace technique , which is a beautiful and effective way to memorize information
I study medicine , but I find it difficult to connect the memory palace with medical information
How should I solve this problem ?
I struggle a lot with memorization
Good news! I have a whole channel just about that. Check it out here:
www.youtube.com/@magneticmedicalmnemonics
Thank you
You have such beautiful and amazing videos
But as it was said in the past
Don't give me a fish ,but teach me how to fish.
I want to learn how to link the information together and connect it to memory palaces
It's tricky in the case of mnemonics because taking you fishing is a form of teaching you to fish.
For the formal course, please consider taking the full Magnetic Memory Method Masterclass. The examples are kept to a minimum and theory/steps are maximized.
This is an amazing picture. Do you explain it in this video?
Yes, I do explain it in quite some detail from the perspective of a case study.
However, as I express in the video itself, people will want to read both Hugh himself and Rudolph's study of the ark for establishing the big picture.
Given that this channel is addressed to people who tend to already know at least something about advanced mnemonic strategies, does this way of looking at things help you out?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMMare you the painter of the image? If it were hung in an art gallery, people could interpret it with any meaning that came forth from the experience.
The origins of the image are discussed in the video, including details of where and when it was hung in a gallery.
Thank you. I look forward to it and will let you know if I can understand it as a layperson.😅
Approximately how long does it take to learn and master memory techniques?
There is no cookie cutter answer, I’m afraid. But with focus, you can cover the basics within a week.
Then, true mastery means constant study and practice.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Well, I have an exam after three days, and for a number of reasons, I haven't studied anything yet, and I have 450 pages full of details to memorize. Do you think I can get good grades using memory techniques?
I don't know you well enough to comment on your discipline.
But if you have basic human consistency and can get through a course and apply the steps, you should be able to get much better grades.
Can a person use the sense of hearing as a memory aid? Ex: pavlov's dog would salivate every time he hears a bell.
I certainly use sounds as a mode of association, but I’d have to research to see what aspects of doing so relate to Pavlovian conditioning.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Fair enough.
@Anthony Metivier English dictionary and little bit vocab of every language "i just fear if I use my visualisation and imagination all the time in day then I think I may have effect on my brain also fear of running out of storage in my brain" if possible make a short video on this 🙏
Do you have a list of every language? How much from each?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Spanish and German only
Great. How many words in each language?
How to use this to learn more vocabulary for a new langauge.
Thanks for the question.
As mentioned in the video, I wouldn’t use the Ark, and decided to continue using the Magnetic Memory Method.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM So basically i will create memory palaces, called airplane, airport, restaurant, bar etc.. to practice my vocubulary.
Sounds like a plan!
How can we memorise a dictionary?
I might cover this as a case study in the future. Any particular reason you want to do this?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM
I came across this.
th-cam.com/video/PDcVKtyryPw/w-d-xo.html
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM 💯💥❤️
Yes, that's a fun video.
It inspired you to want to memorize a dictionary?
Or are you just curious?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM
It is actually both.
It is an amazing thing to be a walking dictionary.
I don't understand this 'cash box'
Please say more about what you don't understand about it. I'm sure we can get it sorted out for you.
Hm i initially thot you’d some esoteric funk about you… check out van till pressupositionalism. Words arent shadows. And the light is jesus 👍
Presuppositionalism is the ultimate “esoteric funk” and how you frame the term gives us yet another case of confession through projection.
I don’t know what you’re talking about technically, but why don’t you just write a book about your life?
Thanks, Karima.
I have. Here's the opening:
th-cam.com/video/ox4AyqQm_T4/w-d-xo.html
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM thanks! Just the Noah reference in the beginning captured me.
I was going to hang out in Yerevan, and perhaps go on an Ark excursion. But Covid diverted those plans.
Hopefully you can make that happen in the future. That would make for an epic journey to be sure!
I hate to tell you this Anthony at this point 1:59 It was not Moses’ Ark. this guy didn’t have a clue how to get them onto it.
I'm not sure what you mean. This is a joke I used to test two things:
1) How closely they were paying attention.
2) How well (if at all) they were aware of the Bible.
So I'm aware that Moses had nothing to do with the ark (except perhaps that he was symbolically floated down the Nile in a little boat that one could semiotically relates to Noah's Ark).
Really the most challenging thing about delivering this test was making sure I remembered to say Moses when I ask the question. ;-)
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM just figured I’d be first to tell you that it’s not Moses’ ark. 2nd half kind of a joke on my own part. So forgive me for misunderstanding if there was any.
Now I get it. I'm slow to understand humor sometimes!
you have good info, but have to learn to break it up into 20 minute videos to be effective, just like studying... 20 min sessions
Why speak for the world? Not everyone learns in 20 minute sessions. I certainly don't.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Its something we learned at Stanford, our profs always told us 20 minutes, then a 5 minute break.
With all due respect, I would have thought Stanford teaches students to think for themselves, and not chew up time repeating statements that clearly have no relationship to videos where you can pause at the twenty minute mark or any other minute and take a break if you please.
If the info is good, it's good at whatever length the person decides it requires and whatever amount of time the viewer/learner decide to put it into.
Does this "personal freedom" way of looking at things sound a little stronger than making a false analogy between live lectures and online videos?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM The workload was so large, we definitely always loved tips when it came to studying. I actually like your videos, I just believe in the power of chunking with information. Stanford students rely on the advice of others, live by it, which is why I enjoy your vides..
Thanks for this. At the universities I went to, we used science and research and reminded ourselves, as I still do, that advice is the worst vice.
As you may have noticed, this channel is all about people taking action experimentally and producing their own evidence to map onto research findings. N=1.