All Saiyan Transformation Multipliers (Updated as of the DBS Manga and Dragon Ball Heroes) 8/3/21
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- All Saiyan Transformation Multipliers. These have been updated up to Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter 74, and it has been updated up to Super Dragon Ball Heroes Episode 38! Includes Super Saiyan Rosé 2 & 3, Vegeta God of Destruction mode, Mastered Ultra Instinct, and more! It also includes, from a game, Ultimate Super Saiyan & Ultimate Super Saiyan God!
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Bro sorry but every super sayain is 50x the last super sayain
And god forms don't have multiplyer
@@Bebetterr9 what lol
@@Bebetterr9 no lol
What kind of lame joke is this?
There is no multiplayer exist in Dragon Ball Transformation except for Great Ape and Frieza's First to Third form.
Because Legendary Super Saiyan transformation is Immeasurable and transcends Math stated by Akira Toriyama himself and Math>Tiering System that means Super Saiyan>Math>Tiering System therefore Goku Legendary Super Saiyan is above Boundless
If you want Multiplayers then this would happens
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 2(based on your opinion) is Immeasurable×75.
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 3 is Immeasurable×75×10.
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 4(based on your opinion) is Immeasurable×75×10×50.
Legendary Super Saiyan 2 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2.
Legendary Super Saiyan 3 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2×4.
Legendary Super Saiyan 4 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2×4×10.
Legendary Super Saiyan God is Immeasurable×Immeasurable.
Legendary Super Saiyan Blue is Immeasurable×Immeasurable×Immeasurable.
Legendary Super Saiyan Blue Evolution is Immeasurable× Immeasurable×Immeasurable×20
Ultra Instinct is Immeasurable^Immeasurable
Green Hair transformation name is WLSSJ(Wrathful Legendary Super Saiyan) combination of Legendary Super Saiyan and Great Ape(Ikari) or a version of Super Saiyan 4.
Fun fact ui is not a saiyan transformation any race can do it
You are half right. Ultra instinct has multiple meanings. The technique of ultra instinct can be wielded by anyone. That is a technique, not a form. What sayings do, at least initially, is used ultra instinct through a transformation. Omen and silver hair are transformations. The technique of ultra instinct is not a form, but the Transformations used by Saiyans are
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow hey just to say some of these are wrong
@@Hei-BK201 Just here to say that Multipliers after Nemek are all wrong, they sent cannon, only better or worse. Personally I believe mine are better. I put much more time into it, I have a 30 page document for evidence.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow can you send me that document I would really like to read it.
Well it can be different form race to race
I believe
Ultra instinct for saiyan is basically a form
Ultra instinct for humans is probably similar to angels ultra instinct technique
Ultra instinct for namekians is gaining power form the sun water and wind like a plant and using millions of abilities at the same time on instinct
Ultra instinct for frieza race begins invisible like lizard and ki become impossible to sense
These numbers are wild ass pulls, but I feel like anyone who even acknowledges Dragonball Heroes is okay with wild ass pulls.
Yeah lol. Shit us just crazy
Bro why legendary ssj 10000 times
Imagine crying about what ppl watch when the anime isn't airing, just hush
@@Von.gzzz0 Hey, if you can't take an opposing opinion, you shouldn't be on the internet. Toughen up or get out, bud. Not everyone is going to like what you like.
@@Alassandros people should feel free to watch whatever they want without smb crying about it when they can literally mind their own business simple as that
Source : Krillin's nose
lol
Nice video man❤️ there were some forms I didn't know about, now I know their names👊🤘❤️🔥
Yeah, thanks bro!!!!!!
Underrated channel
Appreciate it. My original channel was terminated. That is why there is a “2” at the end of my name. I used to have over 2.5k subs.
Also, i think that Lssj is around 50 000x base, basing on fact, that Ssj2 should be 1000x boost. And Ssj Broly was dominating base Gohan, and when Gohan went Ssj2, Broly was kinda scared and went Legendary. And lownalling, Broly should have Grade 1. Which is 50x boost.
If you lowball the grades, 10,000x th-cam.com/video/kD-GIbzSwQ4/w-d-xo.html
Obviously it’s going to be different if the grades are different
SSJ2 is stated officially to be 100x maybe Legendary Super Saiyan is a 500x and Broly just has a weaker base and was scared of Gohan's SSJ2
@@DaikhanYT
It's not, it's said to be 2x Ssj, and El Manga Legendario states that Grade 3 is 10x that of Ssj Grade 1, and Grade 4 is stronger/equal to that.
Which means that Ssj2 is 1000x boost.
Ssj 2 x100 , legendary ssj x500
But great video tho my friend!!
Thank you! Make sure you watch the most recent version
about the oozaru multiplier, it’s a bit weird it being 10x because max power roshi was able to one shot GA kid goku who’s power level should be 1,390 (since goku was relative to base roshi who’s only 139 and roshi only having the edge in skill/size) yet he can’t one shot king piccolo with a max kamehameha (since roshi says nothing they have can stop king piccolo which would include his kamehameha) and king piccolos power level was only 260.we also have frieza stating that ginyu was the strongest in his army which would include GA vegeta, which would make no since as his power level would be 180000 which is above ginyu,since frieza considered vegeta to be part of his army before the namek saga
I appreciate your insight, but it’s officially been stated to be 10 times
roshi one shot ozaru goku because of the tail still vulnerable I mean look at Vegeta ozaru tail he get cut off by a much weaker human yajirobe and great ape Vegeta is only temporary so he wouldn't count it
He never one shot him?
Why do you make up your own head canon?
I Enjoy parasailing, and it’s interesting to try to put things into perspective. If you have a basis for how strong a character has to be to do something, then you can base everything else off of it. By the way, this is a very outdated video.
ngl super saiyan starting to feel like a +50% boost instead of a x50 boost
@@MikeyRuffin real af 😭
So its less?
How is Golden Great Ape 4k when 10x50=500?
@@Skitations the video is a bit outdated, but in general, scaling. Also , GGA is not a direct combination of SS1 and GGA. It’s better to scale it as something now. Feel free to disagree
Can’t wait for super saiyan god super saiyan ultra instinct Kio ken X20
Yeah lol
I'm quite sure Black's rose form is 50x because since he's a kai/god (zamasu) he already must have god ki plus if that's trunks future that he stole Goku's body then how would he have a god form if he doesn't have the saiyans (Vegeta and Gohan died because of the Androids) or strength/power to do so plus I thought beerus died because the supreme kai died in the a fight with babidi and Dabura with trunks and whis did state in the anime if Goku or someone kills the supreme kai beerus dies, so without the number of saiyans and without beerus or whis to train Goku to get god power how would he get Super Saiyan god/blue, plus one more thing I gotta cover is that black stole Goku's body before the time beerus were supposed to come because the battle against babidi and Dabura was the time with the boo saga which Goku has not got his god form yet and I thought Goku was dead from his heartattack/virus so he couldn't go super saiyan 2 or 3 which is why I think Black's rose transformation is only 50x with god ki but this is just a theory, A ANIME THEORY ;)
I’ll go one by one.
1. The manga confirmed that SSRosé is SSB. It is what’s compared to SSB.
2. While Zamasu has God Ki, base Goku doesn’t. So having the mix allows this new form.
3. Multiple solution. Vegeta gained the from without the ritual, so that’s one thing. Another thing is that he might have been from OUR future timeline. Zamasu was from Trunk’s timeline. Black might have been from the future MAIN/OUR timeline. This explains why when Zamasu was killed, it made a new timeline
4. Yeah again, not only can come one gain SSG by training with Gods, but Goku Black has probably one of the highest potentials or addatabkilty in the series.
5. Thanks for your comment. Your main confusion is you think Goku Black comes from Future Trunk’s timeline. ZAMASU comes from Future Trunk’s timeline. GOKU BLACK is from a different timeline. That timeline appeared to be a parallel to super.
If you would like to see my scale for the from, it can be provided. I scaled ALL of super
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow about the first part I actually forgot that in the recolour version of the super manga black went Super Saiyan while fighting Vegeta so he could've went super saiyan in the anime but they didn't. So it pretty much proves that rosé is blue but with better Ki controller and since because black/zamasu is all about beauty they're colour is pink and not blue
Also yes, this shit is SOMEHOW accurate
@@kitleredits lol
Actually ssjg would be at least a 4M multiplier as gogeta before BoG events at a theoretical ssj3 would be 2Mx goku base. And goku says that even the fusion wont be enough to stop beerus.And to completly outclass an oppenent in db u need at least 2x their power. So ssjg goku had to be 2x than gogeta/vegito ssj3. 2x2M is 4M.
There’s different ways of calculating the fusion boost along with the God boost. Thanks for the input, outdated video anyway.
Np but this is just speculation as people say that the minimum is higher than this considering ssjg trading punches with beerus almost threatened the entire macrocosm
@@TheRandomPlandard true
Ssj4 should at least be 40,000x meaning another 10x on golden ozaru not 8x , because if u scale baby arc Golden ozaru baby himself was 32,000 times+ stronger than Base Goku , so doesn't make sense how Ssj4 Goku in full power clearly edged Baby's level . So at the very least another 10x sounds fair on golden ozaru to be 40,000x .
Ok. Old scale btw
I think UI Omen being stronger than Ultra Ego is a bit sketchy, as well as controlled berserk ssb being stronger than like, blue evolved
Ok well. I’ll break broth down.
Ultra Ego: Well the connection you’re making between omen and ego is there, there is no actual connection you can make. They don’t actually have a straight comparison, but I do understand why you find it a bit questionable. The scale just put it that low, it wasn’t that it had to be.
SSBE Vegeta was already fighting better than UIO Goku and I’m this arc was ≈ MUI Goku only in SSBE. That is why you go have such a low multiplier. But also remember that the form increases the users power.
SSBCB: That form is far beyond evolution. I don’t know where your bully from that evolution is weaker comes from, but let me explain why it’s far weaker than controlled Berserk. SSBCB is a stack of Evil Ki and SSB. Turles was shown comparable to Goku’s and Evil Ki Turles was comparbale to SSB Goku. When combining the two forms, that means you get a Multiplier that’s a round blue squared. The multiplier for evolution is 20 times blue.
I hope you understand now, but for more accurate multipliers, please see my most recent multiplier video: th-cam.com/video/bRVe3rzRtBo/w-d-xo.html
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbowyou called dbs broly lSsj when he’s not that’s only in the z movie The canon legend is goku dbs broly green is berserker state just like kale
The multiplier at the end is messed up characters just because these characters got a better control over the form or sus potential unlock doesn’t make the form stronger this video have some problems
Like wdym? MUI- Was shown stronger, berserk- states to be stronger, blue berserk- shown to be stronger???
FP Version Of Super Saiyan Rose 3 With Regeneration That Has 75Billions left the chat
Huh?
Tf?
remembering that even the multiplier difference between ssjg3 and ssj2 is small, ssjg3 makes the user very slow
Ah. I think there’s a significant power job, but I agree that the speed pretty much renters a useless.
User is not slow it's just the Stamina
Most stuff i see here dosent make sense
Outdated video but yeah, it’s gonna feel like that. Everyone has their own interpretations. I built mine up over years. I have giant documents of power scaling lol.
UI is a technique
@@WarZerdMain UI is a technique and. UIS and MUI are forms that utilize the technique, it’s built in.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow thx
@@WarZerdMain Yw
golden great ape should be at a 500 since its super saiyan and great ape
Actually isn’t. If you go through and Scale the form, it’s a much much more. SS4 isn’t 4K either
Golden great ape is AT LEAST, 40,000 considering ssj3 Goku struggled with Baby Vegeta’s first form, and then Baby basically uses Super Saiyan 2, which is at least 100 times his first form, Golden Great Ape wrecks Super Baby 2 after that, so actually, 40,000 is a big lowball
There might be other mistakes in your calculation, but you missed a major factor! He was fighting super Saiyan baby’s vegeta, not base baby vegata
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Thank you for correcting me, I guess I got mixed up by Baby’s numerous forms, but I still believe that Golden Great Ape is past 4000
@@chingjeannie no problem, it’s quite all right. These type of things can get confusing. I agree with you. If you would like to see a fool. GT power scale, you can join my discord, and I will direct you to it! Also, by the way, this video is over a year outdated
Nah it just SSJ x Oozaru that a mere 500
@@aDonut1 proof its a mere 500x boost besides your own headcanon? With your logic (Remember Super Saiyan Baby Vegeta was said to be on par with ssj3 goku even though goku couldnt hit him in ssj3)
Gt goku: 1
Baby Vegeta:8
Ssj3 Goku:400
Super Baby:400
Super Baby 1:800
Super Baby 2: 3,200
(Golden Oozaru cant be only a 500x boost because he'd still be 6.4x weaker than Super Baby 2, but remember in the series he was damaging baby and had him scared so it would have to be BARE MINIMUM a 3,200x boost)
Where the hell did you get its only a 500x boost from?
I was just browsing through on a whim, but the SSJ4 Gogeta multiplier stunned me.
I guess I should've expected I'm not the only one who saw the pattern...:
SSJ * 2 = SSJ2 (x100)
SSJ2 * 4 = SSJ3 (x400)
SSJ3 * 8 = 3,200
3,200 * Oozaru (x10) = SSJ4 (x32,000)
Old video btw. But thanks for input
Your ssjb multiplier after the until version are incorrect the only thing that changes is that they control ki better because they were still leaking a bit of ki before it was mastered
What?
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow re read it it had bad Grammer before
@@superduper8795 well yeah but also no. We know that the later forms of SSB are able to use more power
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow when has it said that?
@@superduper8795 Read it again. They literally stated how they couldn’t keep the energy of blue inside, so the power dropped. And then they were able to master the 100%
well UI is just a technique so dosent really grant any type of power might as well be goku at base level sure he would defeat jiren but thats with dodging and powerful attacks and a small power boost but not aa huge power boost
Ultra instinct is a technique, but omen and silver hair are confirmed forms. It was stated to close the gap between his power in Jiren, so it factually gave him more power. This is also supported in literally every other medium where omen or master performs better than a previous level
I sent that to someone else:
You are half right. Ultra instinct has multiple meanings. The technique of ultra instinct can be wielded by anyone. That is a technique, not a form. What sayings do, at least initially, is used ultra instinct through a transformation. Omen and silver hair are transformations. The technique of ultra instinct is not a form, but the Transformations used by Saiyans are
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow so your saiying that ultra instinct is a technique but due to him being a saiyan and mastering it he gets a power boost closing the gap between him and jiren?
@@Karmic0 Precisely. Now, if you’ve been keeping up the mango, this whole thing has a nice bow on top because he has discovered how to use the technique without the form.
Goku used Base, up to SSB with UI, but it’s wasn’t the form. He was only using the technique. At the end of the Granolah fight, he transformed into mastered. Granting him a man’s power and control over ultra instinct.
So anime Goku hasn’t learned to separate the two yet, but all of what u said is correct. And BTW, Mastered is far greater than omen for scaling reasons
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow i have read up to the granola fight so i supposed your right thats why i said it was technique in the first place bu im glad we cleared this up.
Actually, Golden Great Ape/Oozaru’s only 500x. It’s Super Saiyan on top of Oozaru, so 10 x 50 = 500. And Super Saiyan 4, as much as i love it, is also only 500x.
It never actually said that. Scale wise it HAS to be more
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow true, i just figured that since it is „just Oozaru and SSJ” it would be 500x. And SSJ4 is only said to be a „controlled version” of Golden Oozaru. But you’re probably right.
@@igiczw6315 yeah, I could go more in-depth in discord and stuff. But it has to be more than 500x and SS4 has been stated to be stronger
@@igiczw6315 Maybe the whole Golden Great Ape power is compressed into a smaller body. That what makes him stronger.
Thats why Wrath form must be stronger than Great Ape.
You forgot universal super saiyan blue
This video came out before the form lol / It’s outdated
Oh sorry😅
@@lycan559 it’s ok
First of all, some of these Multipliers are just made up, no offence, since there’s no official Multipliers for them, like SSG, LSSJ, LSSJ2, ect, only ones that are right are Great Ape, Ikari, SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3 and maybe a few others, but I just wanna point out 2 Forms that isn’t true, those being Potential Unleashed and SSJ4, both of these Forms where stated to “Draw out the users Max Power to its Utmost Limits”, so they wouldn’t have a specific Multiplier like SSJ or SSJ2, but instead they’d have a Multiplier that keeps on growing with them, like how Gohan in Z was only stronger then Super Buu, but then in DBS, when he reunlocked his Ultimate Form, it was able to almost go tow to tow with a SSJB Goku, only by training with Piccolo for a couple of months.
Thx for your input.
@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow no problem my good sir.
What about kioken
I didn’t add it because it was a technique, also because it was self-explanatory.
How he commentet every comment💀
I don’t get many notifications, so I try to reply
start of db OMGITS OVER 8000 late db: your pover level isnt even a trillion?
Yeah really
The numbers are so ridiculous but believable because of the atrocious power scaling of Dragon Ball. When you stop to think about how strong Goku is in base just to learn he can instantly boost his power by trillions of times... I really miss old school Dragon Ball.
Personally i feel that if Frieza wasnt written to be so monstrously powerful, Toriyama wouldnt have been forced to make ssj1 a whopping 50x boost leaving the rest of the cast in the dust with no hope of catching up. Villians were forced to be unfathomably insurmountable in terms of power just to keep up with Goku. This one event caused power levels to be complete garbage and our favorite characters to be woefully outclassed in every department without being given the same opportunities to improve or learn new techniques.
I completely agree. It is not the fans’ fault that the numbers have gotten so huge. It is the writers’ fault. Frieza really started the terrible trend.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow imo I think cell is worse and freiza is simple and you have to actually take into account that he has transformations but DB as a whole has Many problems
Allow me to calculate SSJ God’s power multiplier.
Goku Blue scales to Golden Frieza, whose power level was 100 quintillion *(100,000,000,000,000,000),* as hypothetically stated by Frieza’s Japanese voice actor.
Divide that by 50 (Super Saiyan 1 boost), and SSJ God Goku’s calculable power level is 2 quintillion *(2,000,000,000,000,000)!*
Divide 2 quintillion by 8,000 (Goku’s base pre-DBS Broly), and SS God’s calculable multiplier is *Two hundred fifty billion (250,000,000,000)!*
That is 62,500,000 times more powerful than SSJ4!
That number was just a random thing said. It doesn’t actually hold any wait.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
Yes, it WAS a random hypothetical statement regarding Golden Frieza’s power level, but considering SSJ God Goku was able to potentially destroy Universe 7 as a result of his clash with Beerus compared to his feats as a classic Super Saiyan, I feel like this multiplier is reasonable for why Goku’s THAT strong before he dyed his hair blue.
@@uzumazin5099 it’s more reasonable to go off the statement and got it. Rather than a one off statement coming from a voice actor. Like SSG can just be scaled based off of fusion SS3 and the Beerus fights.
Btw, this is an outdated video.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
I guess you’re right on that one.
@@uzumazin5099 I respect your honesty.
Ssjr is just ssjb used by someone with natural god ki since zamazu is a kai
Correct
hell naw what if vegito went mui
(buu saa vegito pl ofc)
Thatd be around 360,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (360 sextillions) , yeah vegito mui would def run whis' pockets
(For those wondering its 90qad x 500 tril)
Yeah lol. Check out my latest multiplier video though fir better numbers
10000x for legendary is way to high. Considering the gang was only able to use base SSJ at x50 no way would they have beaten him. Even transferring power to Goku wouldn't have been even close to enough. I'd give that a x80 to x 90 rating. Its basically like SSJ Grade 3 but no speed or stamina loss
@@digitaladventurer2142 th-cam.com/video/kD-GIbzSwQ4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Kyi5VTG86J7dCAoT that was the video. I could be wrong and I could be right. They’ll never be an official most likely.
ikari need s more power bc it was abale to keep up with ssj bblue
I understand what you saying but let me explain how you misunderstand. Broly’s base is crazy! He forced Vegeta into SSG only in base. He was always close. It was also dated to be the power of the great ape which is factually 10x.
I have a more updated video
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow nah you're talking about ikari broly,not wrathful
@@p4rvrd there the same thing. Ikari is Wrathful. Official knowledge
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow alright sorry for being 2 months late, I really forgot to explain, I meant brolys base is weaker than vegetas, but , he was just updating up to vegeta, his base wehn he evolved was equal to vegeta’s, then his ikari form is equal to ssjg vegeta or goku, wrathful ikari is equal to ssjb
What about universal blue: 999,999,999,999,999,999,999
This video came out before the form. Check new videos
This is my opinion
Oozaru - x10
Super Sayia-Jin Grade 1 / 4 - x50
Super Saya-Jin Grade 5 - x100
Super Sayia-Jin 3 - x400
Super Sayia-Jin 4 - x40,000
Ultra-Full Power Super Sayia-Jin 4 - x8,000,000
Super Sayia-Jin God - x300,000 or x500?
Super Sayia-Jin Blue - x15,000,000 or x25,000?
Super Sayia-Jin Blue Evolution - x300,000,000 or x500,000?
Super Sayia-Jin Rosé (or Rosè?), anime - x50
Super Sayia-Jin Rosé (or Rosè?) Grade 5, anime - x100
Super Sayia-Jin Rosé (or Rosè?) 3 , anime - x400
Ikari - x10
Super Sayia-Jin Breserk - x800?
Ok, FYI u can just say Super Saiyan. Imma read through this stuff now
Ok yeah, so SS4 is in the range of 32K to 40K, so you all good👍🏼.
UFPSS4 to me isn’t a new form, more just a new stage of Goku. I’d say 2,000,000x if it was a form.
God is a bit more👍🏼, SSB and SSBE correct ratio!
Anime SSRosé is blue, not SS. Ignore scaling, it’s clearly SSB IMO. The idk where it was stated. But it’s SSB except already part god
SSBerserk, a bit more then mine… but that’s ok.
Your list is really good
So Goku MUI have 50 Octillion
Older video
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
What would be the real Canonical multipliers?
I find those of the Fandom unreliable, as long as I have made some calculations, for example Gogeta who has 120 quintillion and in SSB has 12 Septillion when in SS he has 6 Sestillion, therefore in SS2 he has 12 sestillion and SS3 has 48 sestillion. SSG red didn't calculate it at all Super Saiyan Blue multiplies Super Saiyan God 50 times, and Super Saiyan God Awaken is even more powerful. 12 Septillion is highly wrong damn if Goku had 100 Trillion he goes Super Saiyan God has 2 Quintillion see how much increase from before
Some things and calculations don't make sense, Gogeta would have much more than 12 Septillion
@@dragneel9910 you’re wording is the throwing me off. Can you retype that more formal
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow I say Fandom wiki Power Level is rubbish just that, the calculations are inaccurate and inaccurate
When Goku and Gogeta deserve so much more than 12 Septillion according to Fandom Logic lmao
@@dragneel9910 ah ok. Everyone has their own ways of seeing. It’s better to find a good one or make your own
Those headcanons of the multipliers are cool, I also have some, I'll leave them below just to show them
SSJ1 x50
SSJ1 (2nd grade) x60
SSJ1 (3rd grade) x70
SSJ2 x100
SSJ3 x400
SSJ God x1.000.000
SSJ Blue x5.000.000
Mastered SSJB x50.000.000
Nice job. Those are valid… but, I have a much more recent video. This is very outdated. Check out my channel for the new one, lmk what u think
I think The ssjb multiplies 50x the ssjg,because ssjg is the god ki base and the ssjb is the ssj of ssjg
I think alot of effort was put into this and though i do think that most of these probably dont have sufficient evidence to support your claims as most of these are straight up ambigious.
Very outdated video. I can also send a couple scales on discord. I went through each episode for scales for anime.
tui?
Older video
Ssj1:- 50x base
Ssj2 :-2x ssj1 (100 times base)
Ssj3 :- 4x ssj2 (200 time base)
Goku ssj God is divine form and nowhere mark any pl for God form either
Nowhere in manga shows a multiploer for Ssj God nor Ssj blue
But we know that:-
God form stronger than goku and vegeta fusion
Fusion ( fusion dance) :- more than total sum of two person with equal strength
Goku and vegeta fusion maximum fusion power accessible is ssj2 ( due to vegeta can't turn ssj3)
So Goku ssj 2 + vegeta ssj2
Goku in namak 150 million
Mastered ssj 270milion
Ssj2 540 million
Vegeta ssj2 is powerful than Goku but they need to balance there power to fusion work
So total
1 billion +
Ssj God pl lvl will br more than pl of 1.500 billion+
For me:
Ape:x10
Kaioken:x2-20
Super Saiyan false:x25
Ssj:x50
Ssjgrade2:x65
Ssjgrade3:x75
Lssj:x80
Ssj2:x100
Ssj3:400
Golden ape:x500
Mystic:x1,000
Ssj4:x4,000
Ssjrage:x20,000
Ssjg:x20,000
Ssjr:x100,000
Perfected ssjr:x1,000,000
Ssjb:x1,000,000
Perfected ssjb:x10,000,000
Ssjbk:x2,000,000-x20,000,000
Ui Omen:x50,000,000
Ui Omen 2:x100,000,000
Ssjbe:x100,000,000
Ui:x100,000,000,000
Mui:x120,000,000,000
True ui:x150,000,000,000
True Mui:x200,000,000,000
It’s a bit outdated but alright. To lowballed imo. Also how to u have so many UI’s?. Whe have UIO/UIS, MUI, and TUI (Manga). Omen 1 or 2 aren’t different multipliers.
Thats very outdated. I dont even know where people got the smart idea that SSJGOD was only 20k x it was a mere lowball by carthu at first.
@@TruePoseidon it as also an issue with the manga patrale
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
Check out this video , please
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Wait.. ultra ego vegeta is way weaker than MUI? Makes so much sense I swear ._.
It’s because UE Vegeta has a much high base than Goku. Not only has he matched UIO Goku in the Moro arc with only SSBE, but he also did better or about the same as MUI Goku while only in SSBE. SSBE > Goku Base.
Bruh. uI is that strong dam
Yeah lol
S1x50/S2x100/S3x400/S4x4k/SGx20k/SBx1m/U1x50m/U2x5b/U3x500b/UI masteredx1t
Gogeta(Goku,Vegeta blue)x2m/GS1x100m
Gogeta(Mui,UE)x2t/GS1x100t/G MUIx2Septilion
Gogitox4Septilion/Gogito MUIx4 Undecilion
Grade 4/Mssj was stated to be level of power, that even Vegeta couldn't reach. And there are multiple sources saiying that it's stromgest state of Ssj. It's supported by Cell saiying that no one compares to Goku, and Vegeta's reaction suggezting that Vegeta was thinking that Goku would go Ssj Grade 3.
In official magazine, it's stated that Trunks got 10x stronger when he went into Grade 3.
So i belive that Mssj/Grade 4 would be around 500x boost.
In regards to your first sentence, I don’t know the source of that, but obviously it’s not true. In regards to your second sentence, I don’t remember there being any direct statement.
Goku was obviously at a level above Vegeta, but that’s also Bc his base increased a tone:
also from what I remember, I thought the guidebook said that SSG3 Trunks = 10x SSG2 Vegeta, NOT SSG3 = 10c SSG2
Appreciate your input though
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
It was stated in El Manga Legendario(Same guide as 10x statement). ,,Hoverwer, he he changes his mind, and reaches level, that Vegeta could not reach". In context, they were talking bout Mssj. So Mssj is level beyond Ssj. In Daizenshu, it's stated that Mssj is state that pushs Super Saiyan to it's upper limits. So Mssj is stated to be strongest/best state of Ssj. Plus, it was stated in Daizenshu that Grade 2 boosts both power and SPEED. And stamina drain wasn't that big either. So i don't see reason why Mssj should be weaker than Grade 2. Also, it's debatable, if Databook says that it's 10x Trunks or Vegeta, but Vegeta in G2 should be as strong or stronger than G2 Trunks(Trunks needed to charge blast to knock him out a little).
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 Just because it was pushed to it from his does not make it stronger.
@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 It’s not necessarily that G4 is weaker, it is just that G2 a stronger. I still believe G4 is just a completely Controlled/Mastered/no stamina loss version
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
It says that it's Super Saiyan form pushed to it's limits.
Why would basing on fact, that there's form after grade 2, Grade 2 is not limit. So Mssj should be stronger.
I thought super saiyan 4 and super saiyan blue were equal in power
No… where did you hear that???
That is not true gt goku with super siayan four is equal to super goku with ssb or i guess xeno goku which is just a goku who went through super and gt in the middle of the 100 year timeskip after shadow dragon saga which is a reasonable head cannon
Ssl grade 4 should not be 50 times multiplier it should be higher since its stronger than grade 3 super saiyan
It is a highly contested debate and I go with the lowball
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow ssj grade 4 should be like 80 times boost cause if ssj grade 4 is 50 time boost it will be very low multiplier and it wont match cell
@@lazerbreaker4758 do you mean SSG5? You’d said SSG4 twice. Btw, there base dirk get stronger. Also, Gohan got a rage boost stacked on SS2
@@lazerbreaker4758 I have a newer video btw- th-cam.com/video/zbSMH0jWFVY/w-d-xo.html
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow i am not talking about ssjG5 i am talking about ssjG4 and its multiplier is 75 or 80 times multiplier cause ssjG4 should be stronger than ssjG2 and 3 not a lower multiplier
if DBS LSSJ is a 2,000,000x multiplier..
Broly would be at 9 Octillion 💀
(In the DBS: Super Hero movie, his power busted to atleast 4.5 Sextillion)
Oh the numbers go way higher than that 😭😭😭. It’s crazy the scaling and power-cliffing! Goku went god which > Vegito, gets multiple times stronger, absorbs that into based, can go god again, and then blue… like wtf
The false super saiyan have 50x too
I think there’s some I’d change for super saiyan god I think it should be a multiplier of 1 million since it seems logical that goku/vegeta’s base power level would be similar to their god forms (for example if goku has a power level of 50 or 100 million then his god form would be 50 to 100 trillion so the numbers would be equal) then super saiyan blue and super saiyan rose for that matter would be a 50x multiplier to god so that’s 50 million so its basically base and super saiyan multiplied by 1 million it keeps it nice and simple and it make the forms seem more godly for kales two forms I’d keep it more simple so her mastered form (or ssj2 since it’s classed as that in xenoverse) would still be a 100x multiplier seeing as goku was able to stand up against her and caulifla although since her berserker form is the same as lssj just with an altered name I think it should be around 50,000 just so it keeps the whole ssj1 50x theme then for Ui omen/sign I think it should be like my idea multiplier for god except it would be 1 billion then Mui would be a like a semi super saiyan state so maybe that would be between 5 and 25 billion now this is all just my speculation and opinion and I’m not trying to downplay your opinion because really the multipliers become absurd and with dbs weird powers scaling they may as well not even exist since dbs power scaling is more base on fighting and martial arts skill than power
Ultra ego compare to mastered ultra instinct
Yes but no. UE Vegeta is comparable (and surpasses) MUI Goku. The difference is SSBE was already doing a batter job then MUI. His base alone is already crazy strong. Just like how in Moro Arc, his base was enough to get him a live omen only in SSBE
There is a more updated version is you look up my videos
bro wtf half of these are so wrong who let bro cook💀
and there is a reason toriyama ditched power levels + base has no multiplier + you cannot scale god forms
These numbers are outdated in my scale, but I got PDF documents to show my numbers. Base is literally 1x, it’s no amp.
Okay these are the corrections:
SSJGrade2: X65
SSJGrade3: X75
BersekerSSJ Is X75-X80 and the SSJ2Berseker Is X150.
Mastered Berseker Is the same buy without the Energy loss BC of the rage
The Supreme Gohan Is X200 not X1000.
The Golden Oozaro Is X500 not X4000.
Wth ... The Legendary SSJ Is literally the Berseker...
The SSJRage Is X10.000
Ahahahah SSJ4 Is X500 and the SSJ4FP Is X800... In the End the USSJ4 FP Is X1000
SSG Is X100.000
The SSGSSJ Is X5.000.000
The SSGSSJE Is X100.000.000
The UI Is X10 Billion
The MUI Is X150 Billion
The Use Is X150 Billion
What is Supreme Gohan. I have never heard that before
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Is basically Ultimate Gohan alternative name. You can call him: Ultimate Gohan or Mystic Gohan or Supreme Gohan.
@@INFINITIKAOS what source called him Supreme Gohan. I have only never heard Ultimate or Mystic
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Bro its NOT an insult. Anyway its the Italian traduction of Ultimate Gohan and you can found It if you search: "Supreme Gohan"
@@INFINITIKAOS I never said anything about an insult… what? But that’s cool. Never knew about the Italian version having a difference, but it can see it
Grade 3 is a x10 to the base ssj is stronger than ssj3 but its to slow thats why trunks couldnt defeat cell
Also the transformation of dbs broly: full power ssj is also a x10 to the base super saiyan
This video is outdated
It makes no logical sense for SSB controlled beserk to be stronger than limit breaker ssj4. Limit breaker ssj4 is ssj4 with god ki so basically ssjb4
Literally head canon. It can be, however strong it is. It was also shown around UI. MUI Goku and CBSSB were shown relative. And it’s literally just multiplication, 14 times another. Limit breaker is weird, the scale can vary greatly.
Super saiyan god is 80 milion multiplier acording to google💀
Lol
Ultra Ego should be right under Mastered Ultra Instinct and above Omen.
Due to Vegeta’s insane base level, it isn’t that strong compared to UI. We also don’t know any comparison by o omen
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow my guy ue vegeta was stomping granolah and MUI got clapped by a CLONE
@@prettynoice8852 No. MUI clapped the clone. He got one shotted by the real deal. The thing is SSBE Vegeta did better Vs thr real Granolah then MUI Goku
@@prettynoice8852 Vegetas base is just slighty stronger. You cant tell me that an Angels technique is weaker than a God of Destructions technique.
24 Dislikes ..!? Jeez .. People are Brutal
Yes. Then again, this video is very outdated. The updated version is my second most recent video on my channel.
Edit- wait how can you see that
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Shhhhhhhhh
"saitama can still beat goku 🤓"
Lol
Ultra ego is similar to ui
Vegeta Base >>> Goku Base. SSBE Vegeta ≈ MUI Goku. UE is only a little > SSBE
Blue Evolution should be weaker than Super Saiyan Rose 2 and 3 because it's basically Super Saiyan Blue Grade 2
No. That’s a fan theory. The show has showed it as a level around to SSB KK x 20
SSB KK ?????
This is only including transformations alone. Kaio Ken is a technique, and is not being counted. That is why you don’t see any techniques like the spirit bomb on here. Finally, you can attach Kaio ken onto anything, and you already know how much stronger it is based off of the Multiplier
And did you see my pinned comment?
Ouh now see your pinned
In this I didn't found the pinned comment
@@dariusfaustino796 ok
Bro SSJ3 is 4 times stronger than SSJ2 so it's not 400 but 800
100 x 4 = 400
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow true... This was not calculated
however I think the PLs people are saying are still inaccurate as 24 billion is so low balling
Great Golden ape would be 500x
The Ozoru form increases base by 10x and any other transformations would be 10x times that.
These numbers are way to high to be legit.
Whole that seems like it would be the correct answer, it just doesn’t work. There hasn’t been official material stating that it is SS1 x GA. We just know that.SS ~ GG. When you go through the scaling 500 just doesn’t work.
If SS Baby tanked SS3 Goku, that’s already a 2x difference. Baby’s then goes SB2, so that’s another 8x, making the difference ignoring power ups 16. Goku in GGA starts trashing a baby, thanking attacks, so 32. 10x50/400 = 1.25 ≠ 32. If a lowball doesn’t work
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Remember that Goku was a child so he could not fully utilize that transformation.
Power ups is simply the utilization/technique of the resources that ki provides and doesn't necessarily act as a multiplier. (Aka, a size of a vault with resources stored and resources distributed)
Anywho, I think people are simply relaying on transformation multipliers and not enough on techniques.
Dragon Ball is a martial arts anime and utilization of their natural resources plays a huge part in it.
@@therorient His power was the same, stamina was the issue. Their fight was not about technique either. Many fights are, but it was power versus power mainly. Even if you wanted to say that baby and Goku were at the same level, you still would be unable to account for the 8x amp.
i don't understand ultra ego = mui but ultra ego is worse
This is an old video. But UE Vegeta > MUI Goku but UE < MUI
God Broly is probably the strongest on this list
Possibly but nobody really knows for sure
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow considering how a beyond fiction character was needed to beat him it’s likely
@@Fant_aa yeah. The only other reason I could think of the downplay would be because his bass stat might have already been at that level but really, we have no idea.
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow tbf SSJ 1 is the only multiplier that’s correct. Ssj2 is 2 times as strong as grade 4 and grade 4 is all the perks of the previous grades. Then apply the scaling
@@Fant_aa we also know Greta ape and ikari
Is this legit
One are officials and most are not, but based on scaling
This yet again makes no sense if Mastered Berserker Kale was 900x then he would have defeated goku in ssj to ssj3 form then kale wouldnt need caulifla with her
Hey, maybe you should read the pin comment. But, just to explain that, Kale’s base (at least when I was making this scale) was weaker then Goku. Not everyone has the same base😂😂😂
And FYI, MBSS is now scaled at 210x. You would know that’s if you went to the most resent video.
Here is the updated video th-cam.com/video/bRVe3rzRtBo/w-d-xo.html
SOURCE
Mostly opinions. I have my scaling in my discord server
What kind of lame joke is this?
There is no multiplayer exist in Dragon Ball Transformation except for Great Ape and Frieza's First to Third form.
Because Legendary Super Saiyan transformation is Immeasurable and transcends Math stated by Akira Toriyama himself and Math>Tiering System that means Super Saiyan>Math>Tiering System therefore Goku Legendary Super Saiyan is above Boundless
If you want Multiplayers then this would happens
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 2(based on your opinion) is Immeasurable×75.
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 3 is Immeasurable×75×10.
Legendary Super Saiyan Grade 4(based on your opinion) is Immeasurable×75×10×50.
Legendary Super Saiyan 2 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2.
Legendary Super Saiyan 3 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2×4.
Legendary Super Saiyan 4 is Immeasurable×75×10×50×2×4×10.
Legendary Super Saiyan God is Immeasurable×Immeasurable.
Legendary Super Saiyan Blue is Immeasurable×Immeasurable×Immeasurable.
Legendary Super Saiyan Blue Evolution is Immeasurable× Immeasurable×Immeasurable×20
Ultra Instinct is Immeasurable^Immeasurable
Green Hair transformation name is WLSSJ(Wrathful Legendary Super Saiyan) combination of Legendary Super Saiyan and Great Ape(Ikari) or a version of Super Saiyan 4.
No way you sent it twice
Officialy legendery ss from DBZ multiplier was 80
Source. I’ve never heated of this.
This is the video I used th-cam.com/video/kD-GIbzSwQ4/w-d-xo.html
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow first of all why would it be so high? In that case Broly would lutarally one shot everyone. Doesnt make sense
@@hootapy why don’t you watch the video. It’s literally explained. Don’t blame me, blame the writers.
gr4 is 100x its stronger than grade 3
No it’s not
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow its stated in a guide book
@@jaym9775 no it’s not xd
Ssj g4 (full power) x50 (no stamina lost) it not stronger but it tranformation longer time than ssj g3
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None of this is true
1) Some are official so your are wrong 2) The test are neither right to wrong
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow I was reffering to the more exagerated multipliers, the official ones i'm okay with.
@@eduardocastelan9225 I mean still, neither right to wrong. I can give you an entire scale of super if that’s what u went it references to help , but still, this video is very outdated
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow I've made more accurate multipliers based on resurrection F
@@eduardocastelan9225 and what are those. Plus movies are separate continuity