ERIN MICKLOW Punk Rock Show Drama
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- Apparently the punk rock fashion gal Erin Micklow got beat up at a show, so I have to cover this unfortunately. Bullying is not ok. Neither is mob mentality. Uggghh....
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She literally punched me in public for filming. I didn't do a thing back and her friends started harassing after. She's a liar
Wow... for real?!?
@@thepunkrockreview yeah PRB 2016 she and some girl got in a fight at the 4 Queens circle bar. I turned around to start filming random people fighting I missed everything that happened (phone and with my eyes). She walked past me and said "You were filming that?" and just punched me in the side of the head. I lowered my self and squeezed through everyone's legs. Her friends started harassing me to delete the footage and I had to get hotel security and threaten to press charges against Erin unless they left me alone. Looked at the footage and there was literally nothing on it. the next day she posted that she was jumped and that some dude filmed it and hit her too. It was quickly deleted maybe an hour or 2 after she posted it to Insta.
To be clear I never said a word to this woman.
"The Paris Hilton of Punk Rock" That's a good description
Lol, right?
First time she actually looks like a punk.
Her main issue is that she has absolutely no self-awareness. None.EDIT: I got sucker punched at a show by somebody I didn't know back in 1990. She got bodily thrown out of the venue by the bouncer while I went home with a very black eye. Did I whine about it? Nope. Did I call the cops? Nope. Shows were sometimes very violent and you just dealt with it.
You do have a point about her lack of self awareness... still think the bullying thing is dumb. Very murky gray area here, for me. I don't want people getting bullied, but my personal feelings towards her kind of got in the way of that msg. I genuinely hate this kind of thing...
It's like a snake eating its own tail; an endless cycle. It sucks.
"pretentious gatekeeper dorks" cracked me up
Oh man, those types really bother me! Lol
I like your take on this. I spent my whole life dedicated to the scene and to see someone waltz in all flashy and fake, id be mad too. Not mad enough to bully or assault tho.
Fuck that. Let people be as flashy as they want. Stop being a gatekeeping dick. This was a subculture formed from being insulted with what was then a gay slur, but they embraced the label.
This thing is supposed to be a gathering of outcasts. Somewhere to go to that's an alternative to the mainstream bullshit. When it becomes a recreation of the toxicity in the mainstream, it really sucks.
I mean, disliking it and thinking she (or people like her) sucks is fine. But going after them is pretty lame. While I completely understand being protective over the things you love and have put your life into, and being completely turned off by a "poser" or whatever you want to call them, starting trouble over it is dumb.
Interview the other person, I heard a totally different story. She started it
I might actually do that, I've had him on the show before
Lost in a sea of combat boots,flush the bouncers with wasted youth.When did punk rock become so safe ,when did the scene become a joke.The kids who used to live for beer and speed now want their fries and coke ...must separate the scene from Erin
Agreed
who can honestly pretend that this isn't funny ?
I'm in a weird lane on this stuff. I want to be responsible and kind and stand on the fact that I hate bullies. But I'm not a fan of hers... I'm just trying to be a stand up dude and at the end of the day, bullying people is super lame
@@thepunkrockreview completely understandable. And if she REALLY got hurt I think it would be a different story. Everyone gets tested, they tried to pull her card and she reacted poorly, no matter what was right or wrong. She absolutely will not be getting more respect from people who already didn't like her after this though. The crying video was just the cherry on top
Idgaf man or woman you pick a fight with someone I love and I’m jumping in.
And that's your perogative! But I doubt you'd cry about it if you got your ass whipped for it
@@thepunkrockreview I’m not getting my ass whooped. Make no mistake.
@minotauro8154 sure, my point was that you'd probably not be a pussy about it if you did.
Punx can take it . This Gen's "punk" influencers, can't. Can't play an instrument, can't write a song, cant be real about who or what you are( or dont know or havent figured it out yet) , never bled over a poem youve spent weeks writing...but you can spike& dye yer hair ,you met a few old punx, you go to shows, got some autographs. Punk is not about BEING NICE&SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS & caring about who the F. Knows it ! Williams Burroughs told Ian Curtis "f*** off& get some money, kid," when he asked for his autograph&couldn't buy his book(one of 'em. I'm paraphrasing to make a point.Read Some of the BOOKS!!!). Punk ain't nice. It's getting gobbed on, moshing til you have a black eye& yer shirt gets ripped off, getting wasted , having such a great time you can't remember the next week why you're still so happy. You write, you fight, you cry, you live in communal houses & meet all kinds of great people you love one night, they disappear , & the next nite you meet some assholes & get in a fight. You deathrock dance in a corner by yourself( thank you Morrissey, for emo/deathrock or the nameless, whatever rockabilly you call your masterpieces.& thank All punk for my punk /deathrock life), go home & cry& you want to die! Punk isn't pretty. Punk isn't ugly. Punk is DEALING WITH PUNX.Punk is living with your own bullshit& the rest of the world's. Sleeping under a car one night cuz you cant sneak back in your or yer friend's house til sunup.Being an influencer- WTF does that even mean, in 1970's/80's Punk/deathrock/newwavenowave world? - when we had to watch some of our best friends die of something called GRIDS in our beds, & watch our other friends o.d. in a gutter outside a show the next night? Being seen does not make you Punk. You have to be tough to hear & live in the real world, get the F. Outta yer comfort zone- away from the SCREENS!! AWAY FROM THE HEARTS & happyvfaces(????) & LIKES! I dont hate this person- but I don't know this person. So many "little faces" all over the screens, I don't wanna know, I don't care. & in truth, Punk doesn't care. Sorry you got hurt. Move on. Don't think it might not happen again. You put yourself out there as influencer of Punk. Can't handle it, grow up. Get yer day job, have yer kids, & learn to like Avril Lavine& demi lavato- whoever they are. At least yer safe. Stop crying. F***. - bb
Shit, talking about books... lol
Thanks for watching homie 👊😎🏴☠️
Her mirrors got to be worn out
I just caught this yesterday. I agree, I may not personally be into what she does. But, whatever the hell happened was not okay for either side. Both sides are handling the situation like children, so I am having trouble deciding on who to believe.
I've now decided, that I just don't care anymore and will let morons have their feuds. At first, I was curious out of shock. And that instantly changed to: I don't give a shit whose in the right. It's all stupid and this shit will just fizzle out and everyone will move on.
I like your second part, lol, I agree
In her initial post the first words out of her was, "i wanted to take a moment before this spreads fire and goes around to at least take an opportunity to speak my NARRATIVE" interesting choice of words. Why narrative? And her story hasnt stayed consistent either
Because LIAR!
There is no justification for her getting assaulted. Period. Doesn’t matter how she’s perceived, doesn’t matter if “that’s just what happens at punk rock shows,” doesn’t matter if she’s rich, it just doesn’t matter. Full stop.
I haven’t heard this entire video, but if I do and I don’t hear that it was a real assault, ima need you to delete that silly ass statement
We are only seeing one side……..Im willing to bet the other side has a different story
she has r@pe allegations… personally, considering the allegations + the discourse around this “fight” it honestly was just a matter of time
She wasn't assaulted tho. She was in a fight lol
What I don't think she understands is that if she was just a pretty girl at shows who interviewed bands, few people would have a problem with her. The fact that she puts on a "punk rock" costume is what rubs people the wrong way. And, yes, as much as my wife hates that I say this, sometimes violence is the answer, but it's not the answer to some girl larping as a member of the Causalities, or whatever. She's looking for attention and fighting her only gives her more of what she's seeking.
Well put
The thing that gets me is that people accuse her of being fake, but what would be the point? There's no money in punk. It won't get you fame. You'll get no kudos from going to shows, because nobody other than other punks will see you there. She does go to shows. She does promote a ton of bands on her channel. People just seem annoyed at the way she looks, and make a lot of assumptions because of it, but that only seems to be a major issue in the USA, specifically west coast USA.
@@RevStickleback She's got 169k followers on Instagram. I don't know for sure, but I believe you can make some decent money from monetizing that. 🤷♂
It's a fight at a punk show..big fucking deal
I'm wildly indifferent about her, I watch her stuff sometimes if I like the band but she just seems off, I've been going to shows for 27 years and was a bouncer, she is gentrifying punk but it is what it is.
Punk doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, so you can feel however you want to about her. It doesn't matter to me at all 👊
Anyway she is in a better mood now. She just posted a video showing off her purchase of an expensive vintage convertible car. So in a way she has the last laugh .
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She bought the car before the incident. Lots of punks have vintage cars, including me. The difference is we don’t buy them we build them. She’s not going to be laughing when things start going wrong with her car. She’ll probably b**tch about it and blame the seller for selling her a “bad” car.
@@zoilablack1398 looks like she wants to do an interview, so we'll see what happens
@@thepunkrockreview let's see how her story changes. Again! Will be tuning in!
@zoilablack1398 look, I'm gonna be fair and polite. There's no reason no to be. If she does something wild, that's on her. But let's not act like Jesse and his gal aren't free of blame. I like Jesse, he's cool, and his band is dope, but they started this as far as I can tell. But if she hit Randi, that's on her 🤷🏻
Punk died in the 90s
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I think a big difference between a fight and bullying is a fight is one-off. Bullying is continuous and targeted. I mean, we have professional fighting (MMA, Boxing, etc) but not bullying, so hey, maybe that's for a reason.
While I think bullying is very stupid, it's a part of the world. Usually stems from jealousy or insecurities. I know I may not always sound like it, but I absolutely don't like bullying and really wish people would just leave her alone.
Gatekeeping is needed.
That's often the case, tbh
You told me to get off your channel, and stop virtue signalling, cause I said there shouldn't be a punk "uniform", I don't know who Erin is, but everyone should wear what they want. It's not your clothes that make you punk. It's the music and attitude! Aren't you displeased with Erin, cause she dresses punky, without being into the music? We're no better than those that make fun of us, for our mohawks, if we are judging those that don't dress punk.
You missed the point. She wears it as a costume and there is DEFINITELY a "punk rock uniform", weather you like it or not. She basically makes a mockery of something people take seriously. That's why it's hated. If you aren't that kind of punk, no biggie, but don't tell people they can't be offended by something that's fraudulent.
I find it hard to believe she isn't into the music.
@@RevStickleback I'm sure she likes it ok, but that's not what I meant. There's an inauthentic stink coming off her. I mean whatever, but that is what gets her the hate.
@@31TV_TX I know there's a uniform. That's my point. By trying to be different, we look the same. I used to wear spikes and colorful mohawks. It became the "woke" uniform, and I don't wanna be mistaken for one of they/ them. Lol. If I approach you, to say I love your Misfits shirt, and that I was friends with Joey Image, and have been in punk bands, and toured the world to see many iconic punk bands, would you think less of me if I was dressed normal? The comment I was replying to, was someone complaining that she wasn't dressed punk. I get what you are saying. I was offended that Kylie Jenner was wearing a vintage Slayer shirt. Kerry King said she better take it off, before she taints Slayer! 🤣 I just clicked on Erin. She interviews good bands, and has a large record collection. What makes her a poseur? I've never heard of her.
@@MegaMisfit138 Agree 100% with this:
In my experience, these types of gatekeeper dorks calling her out for "wearing a costume" are more often than not just overcompensating for their own lack of knowledge on certain bands. It's knocking other people down to bring themselves up, and this girl unfortunately is a sitting target for those kind of insufferable, insecure idiots.
The most knowledgeable people I know on their love for punk rock and r'n'r in general are happy to discuss their favourite bands with people who otherwise might not know about certain albums (or the bands at all). She's a great interviewer and chooses cool bands at that.
Punk scenes are essentially now just factories for social climbers who all share the same lame opinions (corporate media/hollywood/major academic institute opinions at that) and will ostracize you on social media if you fall out of line. It's ironic that they claim this girl wears a "costume" when virtually every dork I've met at a punk show is just parroting each other's idiotic viewpoints.
I also can't imagine being a grown adult who actually calls another person a "poser". For that matter, i can't imagine a person over the age of 20 uses the term "poser".
Not even the other "punk" who assaults children in Camden dared to do so much drama
???
I think when she interviews bands that helps the "scene", or at least it helps the bands. Helps the bands get their name out there, lets people learn more about them, which in turn can help the bands get more fans. Are the bands not part of the "scene"? Are they not the focal point for the whole thing? I dunno... that makes me think she's "helping" the "scene". 🤷♂️ i would imagine the bands appreciate it? 🤔🤷♂️.
At the same time, I find her annoying, but she doesn't "bother" me enough for me to give a shit and get all angry at her. 🤔🤷♂️ I don't understand the people freaking out about her. 🤣 It's weird to me. They're obsessed with her and have this weird extreme raw hatred for her. 🤣 She lives rent free in their heads 24/7. 🤷♂️
Whatever. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bands she interviews are for her to get clout, not to help the bands. She only interviews "bigger" bands. Like what she and I do are very different. She's not helping anyone but herself. At least from my POV 🤷🏻
who?
Play in the tiger pit , you may get bit…
Top be clear, picking on people is stupid. So it's crowd killing in the pit
@@thepunkrockreview agreed. My thought is it shouldn’t be surprising that drama or a bit of violence happens at punkshows , hardcore shows or metal shows.It’s like peas and carrots, peanut butter and jelly. It just happens..
lame when it does happen. But it happens.
What a waste of time.
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All punks are inauthentic outside of Malcolm McLaren. Wise up children.
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Oh good grief...🙄🙄🤡🙄
OMG this guy talks waaaaaaaaaaaay too much... i'm out.
👋 bye Felicia
I agree with you 100% dude
Erin sucks and im even guilty of saying that online but the whole situation is lame.i left the band in January two days after you interviewed us and im getting tagged in post. I wasn't even at that show.. I didn't even know jesse had a gf!
What's up bro, i was thinking about you when this stuff happened, i knew you'd get dragged in, if i was! I been getting calls and msgs all friggin day about this, lol. So insane.
You can dislike someone and not talk about them, there's plenty of people I don't like that I never think about.
As someone from socal that has met people that really don't like her, it's because she's never been part of the actual local scene. She goes backstage and interviews popular punk bands. Her saying she's not a fighter(you can't be afraid to fight in the LA scene) and being so surprised that she got jumped just proves that. The LA scene is no joke, people have gotten jumped for a lot less. Punk isn't some safe space.
I’ve had more than a few negative experiences with her. It’s not so much that she’s not apart of the scene, it’s that she acts like she is while treating the actual locals like complete shit. Sucks she got beat up, but don’t try and lie about it.
I saw the interview with the vocalist. Turns out she started it. The dudes girlfriend I guess grabbed some troll sticker that she probably thought Erin would be a good sport about and laugh about the trolling. Then Erin fights this chick acting out. Erin starts getting her a** kicked, A dude comes and hits the guys girlfriend and he understandably comes swinging.
Highschool af. How PUNK.
I find it weird that there is so much violence in the punk scene, it seems a bit like the UK in the late 70s, early 80s when the skinheads and the ass holes became punks. I used to go to the Rockgarden in Middlesbrough, as Americans you may not know about this place, but the skins used to enjoy battering us and then one year later they were the real punks. Off course it was a crock. Have a look in the mirror people. I’m 61 now, leave Erin alone, it is what it is, nothing more.
Bollocks
Her boyfriend punched the other chick, I have seen the photos. Only ONE person beat up her boyfriend and that was the chick's boyfriend. She is lying, totally lying.
Yeah, I got some phone calls from LA about this, I'm very suspicious of her story. But I have to stand on the fact that the bullying is nonsense. If she wasn't being bullied, this wouldn't have happened to begin with. Now dude that beat up her BF had a jacked up hand and may lose time at work bc of it.... all around stupid situation
@@thepunkrockreview I have noticed a general backlash against influencers lately in society. The neoliberal mantra of 'buy buy buy' doesn't work when everybody is broke as hell struggling to pay bills and buy food. It all actually reminds me of the conspicuous consumption of the 1980's. John Carpenter's film They Live should be required viewing because he laid it all out almost 40 years ago.
Okay and ?
Back in the day we scrapped all the time. Was no thing.welcome to the club. I mean im not pro violence, but if you wanna dress up like a punk rocker, you gotta know thats part of it.
There's a valid point here. She has reached out to talk to me tomorrow, so we'll see what's she's got to say
She said other girls but then says it was just her and Randi in the bathroom alone?
Yeah, a lot of inconsistencies if you ask me. Though I do think people should leave her alone to begin with
Its because she is full of shit and threw the first punch... she didn't get jumped period but her boyfriend sure likes punching woman as he came in when Erin was losing the fight that SHE started and punched the girl in the face.. she ACTUALLY had a bloody face where as Erin barely had a mark on here ... the truth is coming out....
YES FINALLY someone else said it. Ive been saying for years that there is consequences for what comes out of your mouth. A lot of the times Ive been punched is when I said something I shouldnt have that was stupid. It was social reinforcement. I took the hit and thought about my actions and realized that maybe i shouldnt have said that. I learned from the experience. A lot of the younger kids (Im 43 like you) seem to have this mentality that they can say whatever they want and theyll never be smacked for it. Think it has something to do with doing most of their social interactions from behind a screen or something. They also think free speech means speech without consequence. We think similarly about a lot of the issues brought up in this video and also seem to come from similar places in regard to the types of people weve grown up around. Obviously street smart and can see through her like a window. A lot of holes and red flags in her story for sure.
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EXACTLY. TAKE. THE. HIT. REALIZE IT'S ABOUT YOU, OR SOME DUMB DRUNK HAS A PROBLEM WITH YOU BEING YOU. STILL THEIR ISSUE- BUTVREAD THE ISSUE, THINK ON IT. CONSEQUENCES FOR BEING A PAMPERED INFLUENCE DOLL. I agree. - bb
I like your take on this. She got in a fight, she got her ass kicked. It happens. Why lie about it? The part about her boyfriend punching the other girl is inexcusable but sounds like he got what he deserved. Erin is such a fake but that's who she is. She's not even worth going out anyone's way to start shit with.
Thank you and I agree with what you're saying as well. It's all dumb, but there's no need to lie about it and she isn't helping herself at all. She needs to be more self aware
Rad jacket, btw. Spot on with the uniform thing too. Punk does have a uniform. Sure, it varies among punks. Street punks dress like street punks. Egg punks dress like egg punks. Skate punks dress like skate punks, etc. I dress like Debbie Harry and Lux Interior had a kid in a thrift shop across the street from a New York Dolls show but that's how I dress all the time, lol. That's how I go to work, the grocery store, punk shows. She dresses like a punk only at punk shows. WTF?
Everyone should be thrilled that we aren’t seeing regular stabbings at shows anymore. The punk rock scene has become a lot tamer then since many years ago.
It’s not a chuckie cheese birthday party
When did punk rock become so safe?
& again- READ ! IT TAKES street educashun & book learnin' to be punk. Playing an instrument, being a Lou Reed or Curtis level lyricist helps too. Hanging out with groups that are NOT punk- ska, rap,reggae, pop& no music people- anyone else but yer buds& "yes" folks who constantly back you, rep you.Get some constructive criticisms so you can destruction some bad habits. & if they still exist, rip into a few street corner thrift shops, this designer straight edge shit is getting you no where. Try TRY FOR FXS sake, new things. READ. What do they say now? What is more punk than being true to yourself , world weary, honest, & what's more punk than the public library? For a minute I had a street name, i was Nobody, & it was the happiest decade of my life. Still am Nobody.Try something new. Maybe you're walking the new punk walk I refuse to acknowledge, but you saw a few old punx, so I thought....but no. You're a manufactured screen kid like the rest. Max's Kansas city show wasn't wrong for talking over the velvets, david bowie didn't cry when some idiot threw a lolly at him at a show, or when he had a heart attack on stage!!! & he didnt really like punk- but he listened.He Shut up& read.& listened.Draw your man ( woman ) in the mirror, face what you made your self. That's where we all have to look first. Shut up& get in the van, Rollins might say. No one cares yer tired, been up 7 days, hungover, written ten songs in 4 nights , & feel sad. Get of the screen& get a taste on concrete. Party with some people at ground zero, or at the Deadman's party. You might find yourself turning into a real, live girl( Pinocchio, in case you 4got- but diznee's evil, so steer clear of those hollywoodland false vampires. Maybe find some real bloodsucker to hang out with- now there's a lesson, a poem,a song& a book!!!) .- bb- nofalseidols- nicks bat cave caved in baby, &redhandfiles are fake cinema blood.
good vid man. things like this Should be discussed.
Thanks homie. It's all dumb at the end of the day, but I think her story is a little fishy....
The miscommunication about uniforms is that there are two types of uniforms. There are the uniforms that punks wear that makes them all look the same and then the uniform that she puts on to look like she is something she isnt.
😬 the truth is spicy!
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Bro your show is the best thing on the internet! Your assessment of this situation was spot on! Who gives a shit. Funk is different things to different people, and it's insane to believe that everybody that shows up to a venue is going to have the same IQ, opinions, etcetera... If some kids just want to treat it like it's Halloween everyday that's fine they're not hurting anybody. Sometimes punk is just that escapism. But yeah I noticed that there's just been a lot of hate being slung at that chick online lately, and it seems like a huge coinkydink to boost her publicity. Oh well... But to be fair you know I don't necessarily think about punk is being exclusive to only the poor you know... Let's be real there's plenty of people balling out of control that command a large audience... But to be fair, some of the poorest, stinkiest punk rockers who have had hard lives from the jump are some of the most elitist, snobbiest, meanest most hateful assholes. I will always take a rich, kind simpleton over a poor, lying, stealing, violent psycho any day. In this case though... Homegirl is just so disingenuous and any school kid can see it lol. That video 🤣 the Oscar goes to.... Haha
Yeah, people want there to be a hard line stance on something that is murky and gray. Just ignore her if you don't like her. Super simple. Thank you for the kind words, I try to make good content and be a decent person.
My bad i was all over the map i was driving and only half listening
Dont let her wind you up lad
Lol, I'm always wound up, it's just how I am
@bronzeshield6382 she's punk in spirit
your stance on poserism is spot on
Thank you. It's a gray area, but ultimately who gives a crap? I've been a poser and it sucks when you don't even realize it! Lol, this gal is not self aware at all
@thepunkrockreview I love your punk patches and hoodies ☠️
Thank you! I make the patches and sew them on by hand!
@@thepunkrockreview Oh that's dope #DIY type shit ☠️☠️☠️ !!! Would love to do that myself 😄
Fucking LOVE Tragedy! Grimple too. Grimple up your ass!!!!!
What time are you gonna interview Erin Wicklow ?
I'm filming it at 10pm central (about 3 hrs from now) and uploading it immediately
How convenient that Erin got confronted and attacked in the bathroom where there are no cameras.
Meaning? Seriously asking, not sure I understand what you're saying here
@thepunkrockreview Nevermind. I think that she is already forgetting about it. She just bought a vintage car and she looks very happy about it. So I think most likely she will not press charges. Now I get why some punk fans dislike her. She likes to show off her glamorous life like her recent car purchase.
She's lying she had to take a dump 😆
Possibly, I hate having to drop a duce at a show
I don't think the younger folks appreciate the fashion influencer persona gig. So she put herself out there, drew attention to herself.
As an old head, what the kids do today doesn't inspire me. I understand unity and gravitated towards punk in order to not fit in. To be able to identify as myself, and allow others to as well. Gatekeeping is something most of us get over after high school.
It sucks that that happened, but I'm sure most of us can remember being on the wrong end of being called out for doing something stupid where we weren't welcome.
It happens.
Well put. I do, however, think the bullying, especially stuff like making stickers with her face on it, is really dumb. Like good grief, you let someone bother you that much? That you put money into bullying her? 🙄
@thepunkrockreview They're no better at that point. At some time we all must judge others as we wish to be judged. The responsibility is to be true to yourself. If that's how you want to be accepted, keep it trashy, folks.
@thepunkrockreview thanks for your reply man. Your channel just popped up. Cool.
Just found this channel I'm going to subscribe to it and check it out even though I'm more of a metal guy but I I do listen to Old School punk and hardcore 🤘🔪
Cool, welcome! Just a heads up, I regularly talk crap about metal, so please don't let it bother you.
this is why im the youngest person at most shows. im 39. scares off kids seeing someone they follow online and then they get scared to come to shows.
Regardless of how much people don't like her, I'm starting to see how many things could have been done better that night. This whole thing is stupid. Gonna make a clarification video later to make it crystal clear where I stand on this. I was caught up in her contradictions, and how I personality feel about her, but that's not really what matters. She can be whatever, just ignore it if you don't like it. Putting her face on a sticker is stupid, too. And I'm not saying I like her. She honestly gets under my skin, but I don't think about her. They letting her live rent free in their head
@@thepunkrockreview ps your a great channel. just you gotta grow your own way. were not tik tok guys. my podcast is slow but im happy it doing it my way.
I always thought she was just a poser, just using the punk style to look cool and to stand out. But let her do whatever she wants, and straight edge Punks are supposed live by rules of no hate, no alcohol, no drugs, no fighting, no racism, no sexism, your supposed to feel safe at a punk show, but times have changed, people have changed, it’s not the same scene as it was 25 + years ago, regardless I hate bullies n would stand up for anyone being bullied
No hate, no alcohol, no drugs, and no sex?!? What are you taking about?!? Clearly you don't know much about punk... Punk rock isn't "safe"....
@@thepunkrockreviewok I guess I’m a poser to then, damn that sucks
Lmfao 😂🤦♂️
"Punks are supposed too..." Herein lies the problem! A 'real' Punk is a free spirit has zero rules. Straight Edge tenets have and always will be used as virtue signalling purposes.
im sorry, what on earth put you under the impression that punk means being sober and no fighting? you may be thinking of straight edge hardcore punks (unless im mistaken) but punk has never been a safe space. bullying is lame and she doesnt deserve it at all, but also if youre going to a punk show you should already be aware that a fight is possible and you should already be mentally prepared for it it, otherwise its not really safe for you to be at the show. the crying video is a cherry on top though.
its shitty, but if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen. the punk scene is just not the place for her, or her boyfriend.