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  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Part 1 of this three-part interview is at: th-cam.com/video/jhObLT1Lrfo/w-d-xo.html
    Part 3 of this three-part interview: STILL BEING EDITED

  • @tommihommi1
    @tommihommi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Suddenly out of nowhere, a Function named after Euler appears.
    Feel like that's a fundamental rule of mathematics

    • @zmaj12321
      @zmaj12321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Euler's totient function is REALLY essential to anything involving number theory. Not surprising.

    • @tyle.s9084
      @tyle.s9084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Paolo Verri And Gauss always found out about it when he was four years old

    • @otonanoC
      @otonanoC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Everything in math was invented by Euler or Riemann.

    • @louisrobitaille5810
      @louisrobitaille5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@otonanoC Euler or Gauss* 😝. Riemann just built a few things on Gauss' work 👀.

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zmaj12321 I only knew it as doing some neat thing for RSA.

  • @volodyadykun6490
    @volodyadykun6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +824

    "Prime numbers are, like, the sexiest numbers available" Grant Sanderson, 2022

    • @1224chrisng
      @1224chrisng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      as James Grime would point out, we do have Sexy Primes, twin primes with a gap of 6

    • @birdbeakbeardneck3617
      @birdbeakbeardneck3617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shheeeeeshh

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@1224chrisng Dude! There might be children reading this thread!

    • @dyld921
      @dyld921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Grant Sanderson is, like, the sexiest mathematician available.

    • @kadefringe
      @kadefringe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I phap on prime numbers indeed

  • @wehpudicabok6598
    @wehpudicabok6598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Grant: "1/5, 2/5 --"
    me: "red fifth, blue fifth"

    • @ps.2
      @ps.2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, what a lot of fifths there are!

  • @mxlexrd
    @mxlexrd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    An unlisted video from an unlisted video? Now we're in a super exclusive club!

    • @cosmokobold
      @cosmokobold 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D

    • @viliml2763
      @viliml2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      What video did you come from? I came from a listed video.

    • @mxlexrd
      @mxlexrd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@viliml2763 It wasn't listed when I made the comment

    • @ophello
      @ophello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The first video wasn’t unlisted.

    • @themathhatter5290
      @themathhatter5290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ophello It was when Grant linked it in his own video

  • @davidgillies620
    @davidgillies620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The length of successive Farey sequences is OEIS A005728. The Euler totient function is one of the foundational objects of number theory. The fact that the sequence here is one plus the sum of the first n values of the totient function is another of those neat links that almost feel numerological in nature. If memory serves, there have already been Numberphile videos on the link between the Stern-Brocot tree and Farey sequences on the one hand, and Farey sequences and Ford circles on the other.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 2 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    That silently-corrected "1/3" at 3:38 may be the first error I've ever seen Grant make 😂. The man is as smooth as an infinitely-differentiable function.

    • @theadamabrams
      @theadamabrams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      For anyone confused, the correction 1/3 → 2/3 happens around 3:49

    • @berryzhang7263
      @berryzhang7263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Omg yeah I was so confused when I saw the error lol

    • @leftaroundabout
      @leftaroundabout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      If he didn't make any errors _at all_ he would be smooth like an analytic function. But that would be boring, because then you could represent him entirely by his Taylor expansion. _Countably_ many values, that can't be enough!

    • @Reasonably_Andy
      @Reasonably_Andy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If you watch the live streams he did during early pandemic days he makes a lot of errors while writing, and is very candid about them. Just a genuinely humble and brilliant human being.

    • @SmileyMPV
      @SmileyMPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leftaroundabout not all smooth functions are analytic though
      but any continuous function is still determined by its rational evaluations, so in order to not be determined by only countably many values you do need to be discontinuous :P

  • @redtaileddolphin1875
    @redtaileddolphin1875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your original video on farey sums and ford circle packing is probably my favorite on this channel, and one of my favorite on all of the internet. To watch them suddenly come up in this video was truly a treat

    • @jazermano
      @jazermano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Since I read your comment and got intrigued, I went and found the video, titled "Funny Fractions and Ford Circles." It's dated at being roughly 7 years old. But it is still has the same awesome Numberphile feel to it. Nice to see some things haven't changed.

    • @redtaileddolphin1875
      @redtaileddolphin1875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jazermano aw thanks! it’s honestly asmr for me I love how he says “probably” and “pinkie”. 10/10 all math videos should also be asmr

  • @Michael-cg7yz
    @Michael-cg7yz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    7:14
    So, we can define it as a function based on the Euler's totient function.
    one of the definitions of ETF is:
    phi(n) = sum from k=1 to n of gcd(k,n)*cos(2pi*k/n)
    then, the sequence would be defined as:
    1 + phi(1) + phi(2) + phi(3)....
    or to rewrite:
    g(t) = ([sum from n = 1 to t of phi(n)] + 1)
    and, it still outputs primes even after the break
    omitted values denoted with ( ), erroneous with [ ]
    g(t): 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, (17), 19, 23, 29, (31), [33], (37), (41), 43, 47, (53), 59, (61), [65], (67), (71), 73, (79), [81], (83), (89), 97, (101), 103
    i mean yes, it breaks worse each time but the only erroneous values up to 100 are [33], [65] and [81]

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So all we need is a different imperfect prime sequence to use in conjunction with it, where it is guaranteed that the two of them never fail at the same time.

    • @panadrame3928
      @panadrame3928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The question then is what is the proportion of non prime sums of φ(n) for n

    • @Michael-cg7yz
      @Michael-cg7yz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@panadrame3928 you mean this g(x) or Euler's totient function? I'm fairly sure the first one is independent of primes, so sometimes it'll hit them, sometimes, and that being the larger amount it'll miss them

  • @juniperlovelace5262
    @juniperlovelace5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Its a special talent to make your thumbnails consistently look like something out of the 90s

  • @conanichigawa
    @conanichigawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Grant's explanation is awesome, but Brady's analogies make it more accessible to everyone.

  • @ShenghuiYang
    @ShenghuiYang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Amazing connection between Euler totient function, Farey and mobius inversion in such a short video.

  • @razlotan7504
    @razlotan7504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It's like if you watch only 3b1b videos you would think everyone is as attractive as Grant

  • @deadlyshizzno
    @deadlyshizzno ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the third video ever coming? Have been checking back since this one first dropped

  • @hlvaneeden
    @hlvaneeden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The sum of digits of that last sequence is not 33, it is 37, which is prime :) (if you count 10 as two digits).

    • @scottabroughton
      @scottabroughton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But if you insert 10 11s, it comes to 57, which is composite.

    • @gaborszucs2788
      @gaborszucs2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@scottabroughton except that for example it's not 1+10, rather, 1+1, which is not 11, so you skip that, plus 10+1 at the end. 57-2x2 is 53 which happens to be a prime...
      Who'll volunteer for 12?

    • @scottabroughton
      @scottabroughton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gaborszucs2788 Can you provide a visual?

  • @Uranyus36
    @Uranyus36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    probably the most fascinating prime pattern that tricks everybody the most is the approximating prime-counting function which leads to the birth of skewes number. even tho skewes number is an over-overestimate i guess the actually point where the prime-counting function changes its size comparison to the actual number of primes < n would still be something huge (like 10 to the power several hundreds?). this completely blasts through the regime of small numbers a mortal could interpret of, but yet at some point the relatively big boys still gonna break the pattern.

  • @deadlyshizzno
    @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been coming back here like twice a day waiting for part 3 to be linked in the pinned comment or description! I'm excited for that vid, I could listen to Grant talk about math forever

    • @deadlyshizzno
      @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm still checking!

    • @deadlyshizzno
      @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is it still being edited 😭

    • @deadlyshizzno
      @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      D:

    • @deadlyshizzno
      @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose the third video in this series is somewhere in the backlog now

    • @deadlyshizzno
      @deadlyshizzno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      :(

  • @MichaelJamesActually
    @MichaelJamesActually 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny how Grant can talk about a sequence of numbers that really doesn't have any sort of significance, and I still enjoy watching it.

  • @ifroad33
    @ifroad33 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great mathematician. Great TH-cam content creator. Charismatic as heck. We all wish to be Grant I presume.

  • @Vaaaaadim
    @Vaaaaadim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    We're reaching levels of unlisted that shouldn't even be possible

    • @viliml2763
      @viliml2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What video did you come from? I came from a listed video.

    • @Vaaaaadim
      @Vaaaaadim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@viliml2763 part 1
      When 3B1B's vid came out today, it linked to part 1, which was unlisted at that time.

  • @highlewelt9471
    @highlewelt9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Grant is always such a delight

  • @ericpeterson6520
    @ericpeterson6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is part 3 still in the works?

  • @xanderalaniz2298
    @xanderalaniz2298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be interesting to see how this works in other Bases. Following the totient function of 10, would it break down in a similar manner in duodecimal, or is it merely a trick of numbers merely being close to each other?

    • @andrewharrison8436
      @andrewharrison8436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The totient function is independent of base. It depens on common factors (or lack of them) not on the representation of the number.

  • @JamalanJuda
    @JamalanJuda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My two favorite channels coming together.

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hope part 3 won't be unlisted. If I don't get notified when it's uploaded, I'll probably never see it.

  • @neil5280
    @neil5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I check back every day for Part 3.

    • @neil5280
      @neil5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monday was pretty chill.

    • @neil5280
      @neil5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have the stamina for commenting any more, but I am checking daily. Look forward to Part 3 whenever it arrives.

    • @neil5280
      @neil5280 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year! 🎉

  • @anoopramakrishna
    @anoopramakrishna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    3 3 Blue 1 Brown Videos in 1 Day😁
    Inception much?

  • @arandomdiamond2
    @arandomdiamond2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    According to what you said about it being related to the number of fractions with a maximum denominator, this can compute primes! You just need to check how many numbers are added at each step and for step i, if i-1 numbers were added, then i is prime. I checked up to i=3000 too.

    • @arandomdiamond2
      @arandomdiamond2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not very efficient for calculating big primes though

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is just checking the definition of the Euler totient function for primes, since φ(p) = p-1.

    • @arandomdiamond2
      @arandomdiamond2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEternalVortex42 Yes, but I found it interesting since Grant said the "Prime Pyramid" didn't produce primes, and I've never seen primes calculated this way before so I just thought it was cool.

  • @AllHailZeppelin
    @AllHailZeppelin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After realizing that the total number of DIGITS in the 10th row stays prime (37), I got hopeful that maybe the number of digits would keep the pattern even if the number of elements (numbers) doesn’t.
    But alas, at the 11th row the number of digits is 37+2*φ(11), or 57… 😕

  • @dkranda
    @dkranda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @9:47 excuse me but Tim “The Moth” Hein is absolutely an A lister!

    • @toycobra12
      @toycobra12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it was the guy from the KFC logo 😂

  • @Ganerrr
    @Ganerrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    part 3 is just never occuring i guess?

  • @dhoyt902
    @dhoyt902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The second number in the rows of Pascal triangle(the counting numbers) will evenly go into every number in the row IFF the number is prime.

  • @fuuryuuSKK
    @fuuryuuSKK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    DEEPER INTO THE VAULT WE GO

    • @OwlRTA
      @OwlRTA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ENHANCE

    • @ekxo1126
      @ekxo1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OwlRTA i just answered on a comment which was an answer to a comment of an unlisted video that I reached from another unlisted video

    • @viliml2763
      @viliml2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ekxo1126 What video did you come from? I came from a listed video.

  • @SpySappingMyKeyboard
    @SpySappingMyKeyboard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When adding even numbers (because it's symmetric) to small odd numbers (after the first) it's hard not to hit a prime

  • @kirkanos771
    @kirkanos771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It crashed at 10 but what if we count in base 16 and replace 10 by A. Its 1 less digit. Augmenting the base should delay the moment it crashes, is it ?

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also wondered if it fails at 10 because of base 10. It may be pure coincidence

    • @dmytro_shum
      @dmytro_shum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It does not depend on base of number system!

    • @kirkanos771
      @kirkanos771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dmytro_shum That's not our point. Choosing another base may delay the number of iterations before it crashes.

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Grants always been a great math communicator!

  • @bad_manbot
    @bad_manbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it would be interesting to see the sequence of numbers that are primes that he pyramid skips, and see if they hold any patterns we can recognize

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Another comment did the output to just over 100. Here are the skipped primes they came up with: 17, 31, 37, 41, 53, 61, 67, 71, 79, 83, 89, 101

    • @jurjenbos228
      @jurjenbos228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SgtSupaman This is not in the OEIS. But the sequence of denominators of Farey sequences is: A006843, and the sequence of numbers of Farey fractions (prime or not) is A005728.

    • @bad_manbot
      @bad_manbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SgtSupaman nothing quite jumps off the page at me. though it is interesting the differences between the skipped primes from one to the next.
      4, 6, 4, 12, 8, 6, 4, 8, 4, 6, 12
      way less variability than I expected - though i have a suspicion that this is more due to the "6n+1, 6n-1" nature of primes than anything else. (also given how densely packed they are at the lower end of the number line, as mentioned in this video.)

  • @ZacThompson
    @ZacThompson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3 brown paper videos: you should do 1 on blue paper with him just to complete the inversion

  • @addymant
    @addymant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you upload the third video unlisted?

  • @jamesepace
    @jamesepace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Oh darn, part 3 isn't up yet, which means I'm going to close this tab and forget to come back to see the exciting conclusion. :(

    • @andrewharrison8436
      @andrewharrison8436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😃I bet you have already subscribed.

    • @jamesepace
      @jamesepace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewharrison8436 Yeah, but if it's unlisted it doesn't show up in the subscriptions list.

  • @kurtu5
    @kurtu5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what are small numbers? Are the numbers below 2^2^10 small? The largest prim we found is less than that. Are there generating functions like this that work up to something like 2^2^10? And then fail?

    • @effuah
      @effuah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is mill's constant (numberphile did a video some time ago). It generates infinitely many primes, but the problem is that we can't know this constant to a high enough accuracy without also knowing really large primes.
      If you want an example for a conjecture that works for small numbers (where the small numbers are really large), look at Merten's conjecture. It has some connection to primes.

    • @michiel412
      @michiel412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just for the record, there's been primes found that are much larger than 2^2^10. 2^2^10 (or 2^1024) has 309 digits, the current largest prime found is 2^82589933 - 1 which has 24862048 digits.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michiel412 I think that 2^2^10 might be the phone number calculation limit as it can only go to x*10^308.

  • @hyftar
    @hyftar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question about the prime pyramid, would the sequence still break if we used another base? (i.e. Would the same sequence in base 16, break at 16?)

  • @FirstLast-gw5mg
    @FirstLast-gw5mg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the 3rd video be published on one of your channels, so that we'll see it?

  • @razer1024
    @razer1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best video in a long while 🎉❤

  • @nikhilkenvetil1594
    @nikhilkenvetil1594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is this, a crossover episode?
    ❤Great stuff as always!

  • @LGreenGriffin
    @LGreenGriffin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you count the number of digits instead of the number of numbers, you get 37 instead of 33 at n=10, right?

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no. Because 2/10 is 1/5 and it's already on there, and the same goes for 0/10 4/10 5/10 6/10 8/10 10/10 only leaving 1/10 3/10 7/10 and 9/10
      which are the four numbers that would be inserted into the sequence and it would break.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@livedandletdie You insert a 10, 10, 10 and a 10. There are eight new digits.

  • @stapler942
    @stapler942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mediant of two fractions, huh? Is there a submediant? What about a dominant and subdominant? What's the leading tone of two fractions? What's the supertonic?

  • @stoppernz229
    @stoppernz229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:41 shouldn't that be 2/3 ?? third from end?

  • @deadlyshizzno
    @deadlyshizzno ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part 3 is finally out! Thanks for listening to the like 5 people that were asking for it in this comment section lol :D

  • @TheFakeMackie
    @TheFakeMackie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3b1b is a phenom channel. Great collab.

  • @GourangaPL
    @GourangaPL ปีที่แล้ว

    i came up to a problem with similar thing, start with sequence of 111, each next row is the previous sequence as binary number number XOR itself shifted 1 and 2 bits, so 111 XOR 1110 XOR 11100 so 2nd row is 10101, next is 1101011 and so on, find a way to count how many 1 bits are in the nth sequence, i know for n = 2%k the answe is 3, for n=2k it's equal to the answer for n/2, need a formula for the general case

  • @lucas.cardoso
    @lucas.cardoso ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If 1 was a prime number, then the first prime actor would be Sylvester StallONE.

  • @kingdomadventures
    @kingdomadventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In this series I saw something I never saw before--veins popping out of Grant's arms. Teach has been lifting!

  • @kruksog
    @kruksog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Actually did research work on Farey sums and polynomials and so on. Wild to see some of it shared here. Feels like a fever dream seeing this presented 🙃

  • @deadlyshizzno
    @deadlyshizzno ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys the description changed from "STILL BEING EDITED" to "soon"

  • @BaccarWozat
    @BaccarWozat ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the tenth one add up to 33 though? If you count the fact that the number 10 has two digits, you're actually adding 8 instead of 4, making it 37, which is still prime. But there's probably another snag not much further along.

  • @happyelephant5384
    @happyelephant5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This collab is legendary

  • @RobertMStahl
    @RobertMStahl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rydberg is watching
    (finite structure)
    crystal eyes
    ...hydrino
    autopoiesis?

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And the third video is still being edited. But I needed to watch this again anyway. Grant's explanations are so clear and understandable that I keep expecting his channel to come out with a follow-up to his Riemann zeta function video proving the Riemann hypothesis.

  • @TaranovskiAlex
    @TaranovskiAlex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... how many times more I have to refresh the page to see the link to the 3rd part? Are you testing if page refreshes contribute to the views number?

  • @toferg.8264
    @toferg.8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:22 so far it is a repeat of the Stern Brocot Sequence and the Funny Fractions video. Which is fine :) . I hope there is more.

  • @keyaanmatin4804
    @keyaanmatin4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How deep does this rabbit hole go?

  • @johnkonrath1115
    @johnkonrath1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the trilogy!

    • @backwashjoe7864
      @backwashjoe7864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a reminder set to look for the 4th / "Resurrections" video in 18 years.

  • @nope-tr8ei
    @nope-tr8ei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caught mistake around 3:50. 1 switched to 2.

  • @shrayanpramanik8985
    @shrayanpramanik8985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now if I say to some kid who watches numberphile,that Jennifer Lawrence was in a numberphile video, would they believe it😂?

  • @danieluran9555
    @danieluran9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an unexpected follow up to Dr. Bonahon's video... Great!!

  • @zerosir1852
    @zerosir1852 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My three inventions able to change the all history of mathematics. (1) The Easy Number Theory
    (2) The Original Remainder Theorem
    (3) The Prime Pyramid Theorem

  • @abuzzedwhaler7949
    @abuzzedwhaler7949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Papa Grant here to give us some key geometric intuitions

  • @siddharthshah2634
    @siddharthshah2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we are counting numbers in the row, should 10 be counted as two numbers for its digits? Then instead of 4, you add 8 and get 37, which is prime again. But then that breaks for 11 because we add 20 and get 57

    • @jonasba2764
      @jonasba2764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah because then your pyramid would change if you change base

    • @siddharthshah2634
      @siddharthshah2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonasba2764 That's true. But that would mean the prime numbers would also be different?

    • @siddharthshah2634
      @siddharthshah2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a moot point in any case. The pyramid isn't expected to work

  • @kevnar
    @kevnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any chance you can do the writing on a whiteboard? That marker on the brown paper is like nails on a chalkboard, only whispered.

  • @thatoneginger
    @thatoneginger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Grant is def a prime number, wish we’d see more of him on his home channel, but pie guy is cute too 😊

  • @VigEuth
    @VigEuth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you use a different base (non-base 10) will the pattern also break once you get to that base?

    • @isavenewspapers8890
      @isavenewspapers8890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. The pattern has nothing to do with the digits of the numbers.

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does changing the base matter here? The prime numbers are the same no matter what base you use. For instance, just because 15 in base 10 is written as 13 in base 12, it doesn't magically become a prime number. It's still composite.

  • @Jkauppa
    @Jkauppa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    analyze the wilson's theorem like the pascal's triangle for each n

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry that your brain does not produce clear answers but only mush

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you classify A/B/C as a rule, dont you have all as equal gift

  • @johnbumbledore
    @johnbumbledore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you use a radix other than base ten.
    May be base 14 or base 22?

    • @divisionzero715
      @divisionzero715 ปีที่แล้ว

      The function is irrespective of base, it shouldn't matter.

  • @davidlees2963
    @davidlees2963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although if you count the both digits of 10, you add 8 which takes you to 37.
    Then for 11, you have to add 22, that goes to 59.
    Then 12, you have to add 8, that goes to 67.
    But it breaks with 13, as you have to add 26 and that goes to 93 (not a prime).

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder which number base produces the most primes?

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anonymous-df8it , changing the base doesn't matter here. A prime is a prime, regardless of what base you are using (so the pattern is exactly the same, just with different looking digits). For instance, 17 in base-10 is written as 15 in base-12, but it is still a prime number either way, because 15 base-12 has no factors besides 1 and itself.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SgtSupaman If you written ten in base 16, then you'd only need to write 4 digits rather than eight. So that could change it from a prime number of digits to a composite number (i.e. 37 -> 33)

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Anonymous-df8it , except that's not how the pattern works. You consider every number to itself, not its individual digits. When it got to 10, he added four, not eight.
      By your logic, Grant should have said it continued finding primes at 10 in base-10, but then the pattern falls apart entirely on the next line because you are only looking at single digits, so you don't get 11 everywhere you're supposed to get it (meaning you won't be getting anything related to ϕ(n) once n > base).

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SgtSupaman If you modify the pattern so that that's how it works, what number base is the best?

  • @AidanRatnage
    @AidanRatnage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't you have 2/2 or 3/3 or 2/4 or 4/4 etc?

  • @CorrectHorseBatteryStaple472
    @CorrectHorseBatteryStaple472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:10 Damn it, it's that Euler guy, again!

  • @IamBATMAN13
    @IamBATMAN13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third part where?

  • @freshsmilely
    @freshsmilely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so if 17 is left out does that mean that it is a super prime? then i would venture out and say that it is a safe bet that there are more primes that would be skipped in doing it this way.

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honestly, this video, from initially super exciting to me, eventually became super disappointing...
      this precise moment is what drew my attention, and I started awaiting with excitement the moment when he would reveal what OTHER prime numbers would be missing...
      ...and then eventually he payed NO further attention to this curious detail at all !!! -_-

    • @freshsmilely
      @freshsmilely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kurzackd what it might be is that the next one is somewhere in the thousands or tens of thousands and getting there by hand would take a long time to do.

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freshsmilely I don't think it is, but lemme write a script in python and check...

  • @fidgettyspinner3028
    @fidgettyspinner3028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A nice mathematician's pause when that second "1/3" is noticed and fixed offscreen for the next section.

  • @bumbleandsimba
    @bumbleandsimba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NUMBERPHILE I LOVE YOU'RE VIDEOS 💗

  • @guillaumelagueyte1019
    @guillaumelagueyte1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm only halfway through the video, but does this mean that the gaps between consecutive primes depend somehow on whether the ranks of the primes are prime numbers themselves?

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims ปีที่แล้ว

    Primes incremented using sequential Euler totient function 7:26 👍

  • @mattp1337
    @mattp1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why a 2+3=5 rule applies from row four to five, but not from row three to four. It just seems contrived to produce the desired result, and therefore the sequence isn't interesting at all.

  • @munjee2
    @munjee2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh there's no fourth unlisted video 😢

  • @countrychurchmonuments7906
    @countrychurchmonuments7906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never mind all that. I want to know why he has a combination lock on the door in the background.

  • @pleappleappleap
    @pleappleappleap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how the performance of this stacks up against the Sieve of Eratosthenes?

  • @a0z9
    @a0z9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In each row ,the most numerous number is the prime but if tie always choose the prime you Know from the previus rows.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video!

  • @OwlRTA
    @OwlRTA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    lmao, Tim Hein being a very high odd number

  • @jffryh
    @jffryh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the 3rd B-list actor?

  • @senthilkumaran5255
    @senthilkumaran5255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    neat sleight of hand at 3:47 :)

  • @ChrisSeltzer
    @ChrisSeltzer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why you asked for A list and B list actors on Twitter haha

  • @ClaíomhDClover
    @ClaíomhDClover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome collab

  • @leodarkk
    @leodarkk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I suppose that one "reason" why you are getting primes at the begining is that this method will never produce an even number, that is guaranteed.
    It's even weaker than the Paterson method where 2,3 and 5 are excluded as divisors, but it is there :).

  • @bstlang
    @bstlang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the line for number 10 is doesn't break if you count digits, since it becomes 37, not 33.

  • @AidanRatnage
    @AidanRatnage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suddenly, it's not unlisted anymore!

  • @smizmar8
    @smizmar8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quip about 3b1b being "A list" haha, you certainly are too tho Bradey, I literally started learning math in my 20's because of your channels! :D

  • @15october91
    @15october91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3Blue1Brown is the GOAT.

  • @kdborg
    @kdborg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a pattern in the pyramid. If you have a row n, then you will see that number in the row (n - 1) times. For row 2, the number two appears once (2 - 1 = 1).
    The algorithm for building the pyramid and doing this test would not be an efficient method for finding primes.