I think Shay is one of the only characters who have actual character development. He was a loyal Assassin at first, but then has his mora code challenged heavily. I love this character
@@chufeng6223 Heytham Kenway more independent Templar, he likes principles but more like half assassin values and half templar beliefs. Shay just becomes the second hybrid follower like Heytham Kenway. Read the book "Forsaken" about Heytham, it cool.
@@drakecoldman8581 Nah, you are only saying that to justify the reasonw hy you like him so much. Both assassins and templars want peace, peace is in the core of both of their doctrines. the problem are the means by which you achive it. Heytham is every buit templar. he was created to be atemplar. He isnt like Cesare who was just a dumb bitch who used the moment to get to power. Heytham was idealist, money and power to him was means to an end. Its ok to liek Heytham even if he is a templar 100% because he is cool, he was made for that reason, for you to like him inspite of him being on antagonist side. Same goes for Shay. Dont try to justify it with "the creed betreyed him" or "he was just usiong templars to exact revenge". He was a oure blood templar too and thats ok. They were made to be templar, to make you question wether assassins were right. As for him using templars, hell, Altair didnt use templars at all and he killed his mentor when his mentor was wrong. Shay also had problems with assassins beliefs and the entire system, not just with morality of that one moment, that was only the final drop.
I like how Liam is the only one to have any sort or faith or trust in Shay when he’s dying. “I hope that world is a good one”. He knows its not the Assassin one, but he just hopes that Shay has done something right.
Honestly, Assassins Creed Rogue helps AC Unity so much. Overall the ending for unity was terrible, however the ending of AC Rogue/the beginning of the story of Arno is brilliant.
I must say, I prefer Rogue to Unity by a landslide. The story interested me more, Shay was a more interesting protagonist to me, and I love the idea of finally having an Assassin realize that the Brotherhood isnt all righteous in their creed. While my favorite will forever be Black Flag and Edward, Rogue and Shay are a good second place.
I agree, AC Black Flag has been the best one of them all (so far). Still, Shay left the Assassins because he was too ignorant and narrow minded. Obviously Achilles didn't intend for innocents to die, it's in the creed and Shay was just blinded by his anger to listen. Wasn't really a good reason to change and kill all his friends. Most templars have shown that their cause is definitely not better than the assassins'. The only templar I listened to and may have been convinced by was Haytham.
Jack Williams The thing with me is, I wouldnt join either side. I'd do my own thing with my own side, but that's besides the point. In terms of just Assassins and just Templars, I agree with the Templars much more. The Assassins seem to be more ignorant to me. The world doesnt revolve around freedom and equality; man is not so kind. Order must be kept, and if it is through chaos, then so be it. The populace must be controlled in order to lead them to the correct outcome. The Assassins want to free the world, but that would only leave it in disarray and out of control. Personally, i'd be a Pirate like Edward, but if I had to choose, i'd be a Templar over an Assassin. Besides, my ancestors were actual Templars who fought in the Crusades so that's a big plus for me.
Jack Williams Dictatorships are effective. They stop uprisings with fear and control through power and might. That's how i'd rule, and that's how i'd want my country/state/whatever ruled. Its effective and breeds results.
Jack Williams Who cares if you're liked? Peace will be kept even if you must slaughter a thousand to send a message to the millions. Freedom sounds all fine and dandy on paper, but without control, freedom can easily turn into chaos. The Assassins fight for chaos in my book, and as such, I will always side with the Templars. They understand that just because you are hated or the 'villain' doesnt make you wrong. People can hate you all they want; You control them and they cannot oppose you. That level of power is what is needed to keep order. If only the Brotherhood of Assassins could see that, they wouldnt be throwing their lives away for their so called 'peace' and 'freedom'.
Jack Williams Who gives a shit about other people? I'll steal and kill to profit myself all day long if I had that kind of power. Fuck the populace as far as im concerned. Like I said, I wouldnt honestly join either Assassin or Templar, but i'd join Templar long before Assassin.
In Chronological order(for those who are wondering): Assassin's Creed 4 ---------> Assassin's Creed Rogue -------> Assassin's Creed 3/Assassin's Creed Unity
***** what are you talking about? I'm talking about how a majority of assassinations happen in the series as they are talking in their dying breath they seem to be able to speak in coherent speech.
PhreshDubstep You think at least one of them would die instantly or at least cough up blood as they are speaking their last words. I remember Haytham was speaking as if he just got a splinter in his hand before he just dropped dead..
***** But thats not how he died. Those final words are memory corridors and only reveal the last true intention or thoughts of the victim in correspondence to the protagonist. Haytham actually died when Connor stabbed him in the heart slowly according to Connors journal in AC FORSAKEN. That neck stab was merely just an injury that the game just rushed in.
Assassins creed Rogue is definitely my favorite since the days of assassins creed 2. Not only because the story line is so great. But because we can finally play as a Templar. My wish has been answered. I have always had more passion for the Templars than the Assassins.
@@sniperassassinac8492 Assassins preach freedom, they say that people should be wise and rational. Yet they kill anyone who goes against them. If anyone's idea of peace conflicts with the Assassins they silence them. How is that called freedom? Maybe the Order is idiocy. But the Brotherhood is hypocrisy. P.S I prefer Templar ideals.
it's a shame this title kinda went under the radar. i quite enjoyed it and shay is an interesting character. i also like that it makes you see things from the other side. there are big moral grey areas in the age-old feud between assassins and templars. neither of the factions is entirely good or entirely evil.
1:36:09 I like how when Haytham does this when he's with Connor, Connor has a HUGE problem with it. When he does this with Shay, Shay has absolutely no problem with it like it's just another thing to him. This distinction is what I loved about this game. Seeing things from the other side, the opposite perspective, was just amazing. I've always likened Shay's fall from the Assassins to the Templars to be very reminiscent of Anakin Skywalkers change of heart, AND they're both prequels essentially (and I'm a HUGE sucker for prequels!)
What are you talking about? Shay didn't turn into a bad guy because he became a Templar. His turn to the Templars wasn't "fall" either. The Assassins had become corrupted and at that point, the Templars were genuinely better.
Indeed. Haytham always kills people when he's done with them. One less loose end I suppose, but like Connor, I disagree with it. It just shows the different way of thinking. Templars use force and intimidation on anyone to get what they want. Assassins don't kill unless they deserve it. It's literally one of the tenants. "Stay my blade from the flesh of the innocent." You could make the point he wasn't innocent because he was working with them, but he's still just a low level grunt who doesn't call the shots.
@@pedrobatista2529 The Assassins at this point were either corrupt or naive, but Shay is definitely not a good guy. He says he'll kill everyone who defends Achilles and admits to becoming a monster right before he kills Adewalé. Also he's the only AC protagonist who can kill civilians without causing desynchronization, meaning he did actually do that at some point.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 Of course he would kill anyone who sided with Achilles. The guy was a genocidal madman that needed to be stopped as far as he was concerned. Even still, he felt sorry for having to kill Adéwale, Liam and even Hope. I don't like that he can kill civillians. That was a mistake on the dev's part IMO. But I can understand that he has to be able to kill British soldiers even though they're supposed to be allies. Maybe that's why killing civillians doesn't cause desynchronization. It doesn't have anything to do with the lore. The character's whole storyline is based around him being concerned with the common people.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 I do have a theory on that but it's my own little theory shay once killed a few civilians he thought were assassin plants caseing the bounty hunters to come after him. His whole thing is he defects because he believes "innocents" where lost. Note he doesn't say "civilians" and as we know assassin's are masters of deception. So maybe after a few years in the Templar order he becomes very Paranoid over the idea of assassin's hunting him down. Thus Shay thinks that the civilians he killed are assassin's. Or more likely I'm just inhaling a bunch of cope gas.
I enjoy when AC games actually do something different. Instead of going back to what has already been done, like Unity, it seems that it's more rewarding when they try to do something different. Black Flag gave us new gameplay, while Rogue gave us different perspective.
"Your father would be ashamed!" Oh look who remembered edward! I'm pretty sure he felt ashamed and said sorry but you chose to leave him for the assassin's even though he needed you the most. You know what i'm talking about.
Honestly looking back at this game, it was probably one of the best games in the AC universe the plan behind this game of being able to play as a Templar and an assassin hunter was amazing! The only problem was that this game came out when EVERYONE was getting a PS4 and the ps3 era was coming to an end and it didn’t help that it came out the same time as Unity which you should know what happened. If Ubisoft waited to release this game at least a year or two after Unity and worked on making the story longer and adding different elements to the game, then I believe it could’ve been a lot better to most AC fans eyes! If Ubisoft makes a sequel to this I’ll definitely buy it because Shay’s story isn’t done yet
Weird, the cover image had Shay wearing a hood along with his templar outfit. But throughout this game you only see him make use of a scarf like mask. If he had a hood it would add more of that "Assassin gone rouge" feeling don't you think?
Just finished playing this game for the 4th time and I really do have to say that they did a great job with it. It keeps a lot of elements from Black Flag, but that's to be expected when they were working on two games at once. Had they scrapped Unity however and just focused on this it honestly could've been the best game in the franchise. What impresses me most is the overall storyline, which is just as good as any of the earlier entires, and even better in some cases. What I enjoy about it all most isn't even Shay and his character arc (Though he was definitely fun to play as), but the character of Achilles. Since AC3 we were all wondering just what he did that lead to the destruction of his Brotherhood, and here we get to see that it really is all his fault. (Which he did admit in AC3). However, similar to earlier characters in the franchise, when you consider his history the mistakes he made, and they were mistakes, make perfect sense. Consider, Ah Tabai was his Mentor, and therefore his own teachings and ideology reflect those of said Mentor. He creates and runs the Colonial Brotherhood in a similar way that Ah Tabai ran the Carribeans. Each of the core members of the group is spread throughout the region, instead of solely being collected in just one city, and is then working on his or her own tasks, to contribute to the larger group as a whole. Achilles and Ah Tabai are both careful to keep in contact with various other Branches of Assassins around the world. At the same time, Achilles makes hunting down Precursor knowledge and Artifacts a central goal of his Brotherhood. Why would he not do that, when Ah Tabai made protecting one such Precursor site (The Observatory) and tracking any possible Sages a central goal of his own Brotherhood? He most certainly would've informed Achilles about the Observatory and explained to him that guarding it was his (Ah Tabai's) responsibility, which then of course leads to the claim Achilles makes to Shay in Rogue; that hunting down the Artifacts isn't a right, but the responsibility of the Assassins.
this game made me think. could the Assassins have been the real villains in this franchise the whole time? Haythem said that freedom would be an invitation to chaos. then again, both organizations could just be neccessary evil fighting an endless war, seeking the pieces of Eden to give themselves an edge. which do you think is better? freedom with chaos or order with control?
The assassins in this age are indeed villains but for different reasons... they inspire complete devotion to Il Mentore and that's exactly what Altaïr and Ezio fought against... they wanted mankind to follow their own path as he said in a speech after killing Savonarola: "Do not follow me, or anyone else!"
I actually think that both Assassins and Templars bring balance thus they must stay at war (or work together, but I highly doubt that) in order for the world to stay in balance. The world should have freedom, but order as well. You cannot eat freedom. For example prison. In prison you aren't free, constantly receive orders and commands and must obey them or face consequences, but you get fed every night and have shelter from the cold, where a homeless man lives freely without anybody controlling his life, but starves and sleeps in the cold. So I'm in between, even though I think most Templars are dogs, they're still important. I was totally against the Templars in syndicate as it left people starving under control, where like with Unity I was much more laid back with them
Sparda Kurkov templars want a dictatorship, assassin wants freedom with no government. Basicly tyranny vs anarchy. Both are wrong. But atleast the assassins are openminded enough to let you choose what you want. So the assassins have an edge.
1:57:01 He mentions Connor and his assassins undoing Templar business from the American revolution but Connor is still a student of Achilles during this time. The cutscene takes place in 1776 and AC3 ends in 1781
Just seeing the beginning was enough to let me know this assassins creed is something different. I'm not playing thieves trying to handle things their own way, I'm playing a man that has some convictions and he wants something different and is putting that life behind him. Not all Templars were jerks and Shay displays that. I'm still in the beginning.
Honestly such an underrated game and storyline. Shay is a real badass and I would love to see him in future AC games as the antagonist. Can't imagine what this game would have been if they put real time and effort into it.
I realize now that that last assassination, Charles was calling for his boy named Arno (from AC Unity). Also all the Ac games from three show other characters from other games in the franchise. Achillies Haytham, Charles Lee, William Johnson, and Adewale! Small world
Okay, how was anyone surprised that Shay survived the fall? The mere fact that his genetic memories are available are indication that he very clearly did survive and lived long enough to pass on his genes. Even Ubisoft can't keep up with their own lore.
Altiar: “have their blades touched the innocent?.. then they must be killed” Shay did save the creed from being compromised. After this the assassins just did what they did after the fall of Masyaf, go into hiding and scatter. After some time Ezio rebuilt the order from the ground up and that’s what’s imminent after this as well.
This game made AC3 even more better than what it already was because it made AC3 seem like Achilles 2nd chance of redemption after his poor leadership created probably the worlds most dangerous Templar
I wish they would make a assassin's creed where Connor is coming to Paris and fights with Arno against the Templars and in the end take revenge on Shay.
Donkey Chainsaw Read the fan made story Assassin's Creed Legacies. The three (Shay, Connor and Arno) met there. Face to face. It was just short though. Just search it. I hope Ubisoft acknowledge it amd make it a dlc. :D
GOD, YES. I'm copying-paste what I have just said above: 'My princess' dream is to have a new game where Connor and Arno join forces to take Shay down and while they actually do it, they are faced with his son/daughter that might or might not turn back to the Creed. I would be such a happy person. ;;'
@@nanythelittlestar I don't think a fight should be necessary. I think just have Connor and Arno confront Shay, who must have been pretty old by the time of the French Revolution. Shay will tell them why he did it. And, it could be in London. Think about it, with Connor hunting Templars all over the American republic and Arno in Paris, where would Shay hide other than England? Or perhaps in Lisbon, where Shay will tell them the story of the Lisbon earthquake and Assasin's meddling in it.
Ok I haven’t played this game but I love how it directly finishes where Unity started. Wow, this is why I play these games, the storyline is pretty damn good. More tie ins for future creed games I hope. As if typing this I still need to play Origins and Rogue but I will eventually.
I love how chevalier sounds more French in Rouge, than all the Frenchmen in Unity - Which is meant to be the FRENCH Revolution era, based in France, is it not... ?
Four Protagonists are in this game, never noticed that before. Haytham, first protagonist of Ac3. Arno, the Protagonist of Unity. Adewale, the protagonist of Freedom Cry. And Shay, the Protagonist of Rogue. Connor and Edward were Mentioned. The Soldiers in France have white clothes. But when you play Unity, which is literally the same time, the clothes of them are blue?
During Unity Ubisoft probably just didn't want to bother with using different player models for the time periods. The blue uniforms are French revolutionaries in actual history. They were called the National Guard.
ughhhhh, playing as a Templar turns my stomach, Shay is an amazing character with an amazing story, but dammit I hate killing Assassins, just makes me remember Ezio and Altair and how they would do anything to stop him and yet we (the player) are helping the other side......
Bloody Ninja No they didn't,both groups want the same thing,but their methods are different in this universe created for this game,but because we always play as an Assassin we believe they are the good guys.We actually saw in AC3 that the Templars wanted to save the natives to be colonized,but because the natives saw every foreigner as an enemy they didn't understood,so the Templars used force to do that.In the end when Connor killed them,the natives lost,he didn't do anything to improve the situation.he actually made it worse
Just a bunch of pixels changing colour on a screen there are no "Templars" or "assassins" no your not killing assassins your sitting on your ass looking at a bunch of pixels on a screen that resemble some dude stabbing another dude
Assassins Creed Rogue Quotes "I make my own luck" - Shay Patrick Cormac "I don't miss" - Liam "So much potential, yet so little discipline" - Hope Add more
DUDES... My princess' dream is to have a new game where Connor and Arno join forces to take Shay down and while they actually do it, they are faced with his son/daughter that might or might not turn back to the Creed. I would be such a happy person. ;;
Really hoping the next game involves Connor and Shay. Now that will be a great. But what I would really want to see is a Templar turning into an assassin now. That would make things even more interesting I think.
I literally lost it at 57:49 'You have to kill me shay!' Proceeds to literally stab the dude in the back and shove a sword through his heart. Yep that will do it
This was my first Assassin's Creed exposure and I don't regret playing this. Getting to play on both sides of this rivalry of the Assassin's and the Templar's. Also, I love Shay's character development through the game's course.
I mean, I had endgame equipment within a couple of hours. Mainly for Shay, but I have to say if I ever joined a brotherhood and they treated me like they did to him? I’d have left, and the rest would have been up to chance. This game’s economy is pretty easy to exploit, get your first upgradable building and wait around a few hours for it to drop coin and upgrade the city to full capacity. Then upgrade shay and gather every single treasure in the first city and take time to go out to a few islands. (This is only available once you turn Templar, and the upgrade cites tend to be city buildings and churches. Churches pay out extremely well.) Then, begin upgrading the ship until you reach something overlevel and competent. Proceed to pillage and sack the French into oblivion. Boom, you’re well on your way!
Thanks for this man, I've only watched 20 minutes so far but wanted to comment since I could've forgotten in 2 hours :P Good job man ^_^ Watched it all, still good job man. Gonna watch Unity next :)
Love Rogue cuz we were always shown that AC is the good guy and templars bad straight up. Rogue showed that assassins are just as open to messing up as templars are.
Wow, I REALLY hope they eventually port this game to the One as part of an AC combo pack down the road because this game's story in enthralling. An extremely interesting story with a main character I REALLY emphasize with and give a shit about.
I like how it Connected all the recent Assassin’s Creed games. AC3, AC4, And Unity. They mentioned Connor, Ade and Achilles are in the game fleshing out Achilles’ backstory, Ade’s time as an Assassin and the beginning of Unity and we even see more of Haytham when he was younger in the colonies . All in all, fuck Shay😂😂
Shay was saving New York before spider man gotta love him.
TheMegaUzumaki say the hater without consciousness
TheMegaUzumaki Conner did it better ahha
I want pictures!
And he delivered it right into the control of Thomas Hickey...
@TheUzumakiSpiral look at this fool!
Other character: That was pretty lucky
Shay: OI MEK MOI OWN LOOK
🤣
Also shay: YOU WANNA GOOOEEEE
*Leeam*
The King of the Penguins Woout ‘av I gotta keep tellinya?
Loik Eye'v always toldya, Eye make moi own look
"Eliminate the threat. Protect Franklin"
*Kicks a woman lying on the ground in the face*
Lol i saw that!
Where's the timestamp?
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 43:15
Lol
😆😆😆😂
I think Shay is one of the only characters who have actual character development. He was a loyal Assassin at first, but then has his mora code challenged heavily. I love this character
Poor leadership ultimately drove Shay to the Templars.
Basically, Alot of things could have been different.
You're not wrong, there's more to it but you're not wrong
And less insults.
@@chufeng6223 Heytham Kenway more independent Templar, he likes principles but more like half assassin values and half templar beliefs. Shay just becomes the second hybrid follower like Heytham Kenway.
Read the book "Forsaken" about Heytham, it cool.
@@drakecoldman8581 Nah, you are only saying that to justify the reasonw hy you like him so much. Both assassins and templars want peace, peace is in the core of both of their doctrines. the problem are the means by which you achive it. Heytham is every buit templar. he was created to be atemplar. He isnt like Cesare who was just a dumb bitch who used the moment to get to power. Heytham was idealist, money and power to him was means to an end. Its ok to liek Heytham even if he is a templar 100% because he is cool, he was made for that reason, for you to like him inspite of him being on antagonist side. Same goes for Shay. Dont try to justify it with "the creed betreyed him" or "he was just usiong templars to exact revenge". He was a oure blood templar too and thats ok. They were made to be templar, to make you question wether assassins were right. As for him using templars, hell, Altair didnt use templars at all and he killed his mentor when his mentor was wrong. Shay also had problems with assassins beliefs and the entire system, not just with morality of that one moment, that was only the final drop.
The moment I heard Dorian say, "Have you seen my son Arno?"
Literally lost my mind
Even though Arnos full name is Arno Charles Dorian?
When u realized it was your fault
@@featherflame1962 it's arno victor dorian
@@mohammadcordova2428 You killed a good Assassin to help birth a better Assassin. In my opinion, at least.
Arno VICTOR Dorian
"Your father would be ashamed"
"I didnt know my father had shame"
AH FUCKK I LOVE HAYTHAM
Same he my fav kenway
Same, all the Kenways are great characters
@@Uaveatz2 damn you got Haytham over Edward?
I like how Liam is the only one to have any sort or faith or trust in Shay when he’s dying. “I hope that world is a good one”. He knows its not the Assassin one, but he just hopes that Shay has done something right.
Or he said that as a mockery.
@@mashrafimorshed18he definitely said that as a mockery. He was laughing while saying it.
@@ItsPREPP98 And that was a laugh you give to someone you don't trust.
@@mashrafimorshed18 exactly.
Yeah he was being sarcastic
Honestly, Assassins Creed Rogue helps AC Unity so much. Overall the ending for unity was terrible, however the ending of AC Rogue/the beginning of the story of Arno is brilliant.
Elise died what do you mean
Yeah I feel like this one had a much better ending than Unity’s
I must say, I prefer Rogue to Unity by a landslide. The story interested me more, Shay was a more interesting protagonist to me, and I love the idea of finally having an Assassin realize that the Brotherhood isnt all righteous in their creed. While my favorite will forever be Black Flag and Edward, Rogue and Shay are a good second place.
I agree, AC Black Flag has been the best one of them all (so far). Still, Shay left the Assassins because he was too ignorant and narrow minded. Obviously Achilles didn't intend for innocents to die, it's in the creed and Shay was just blinded by his anger to listen. Wasn't really a good reason to change and kill all his friends. Most templars have shown that their cause is definitely not better than the assassins'. The only templar I listened to and may have been convinced by was Haytham.
Jack Williams
The thing with me is, I wouldnt join either side. I'd do my own thing with my own side, but that's besides the point. In terms of just Assassins and just Templars, I agree with the Templars much more. The Assassins seem to be more ignorant to me. The world doesnt revolve around freedom and equality; man is not so kind. Order must be kept, and if it is through chaos, then so be it. The populace must be controlled in order to lead them to the correct outcome. The Assassins want to free the world, but that would only leave it in disarray and out of control. Personally, i'd be a Pirate like Edward, but if I had to choose, i'd be a Templar over an Assassin. Besides, my ancestors were actual Templars who fought in the Crusades so that's a big plus for me.
Jack Williams
Dictatorships are effective. They stop uprisings with fear and control through power and might. That's how i'd rule, and that's how i'd want my country/state/whatever ruled. Its effective and breeds results.
Jack Williams
Who cares if you're liked? Peace will be kept even if you must slaughter a thousand to send a message to the millions. Freedom sounds all fine and dandy on paper, but without control, freedom can easily turn into chaos. The Assassins fight for chaos in my book, and as such, I will always side with the Templars. They understand that just because you are hated or the 'villain' doesnt make you wrong. People can hate you all they want; You control them and they cannot oppose you. That level of power is what is needed to keep order. If only the Brotherhood of Assassins could see that, they wouldnt be throwing their lives away for their so called 'peace' and 'freedom'.
Jack Williams
Who gives a shit about other people? I'll steal and kill to profit myself all day long if I had that kind of power. Fuck the populace as far as im concerned. Like I said, I wouldnt honestly join either Assassin or Templar, but i'd join Templar long before Assassin.
How weird that Rogue turned out fine and Unity was messed up.
Well Rogue is shorter and have less NPCs
Dennis Fueru And used the same engine as Black Flag.
Liquid Ocelot im playing unity rn lol
It's fine after all the patches
Arno didn't even avenge his father.
1:02:45
Just a normal day. Sun shining, not a cloud in the sky.
hmm somethings not right....oh thats right i have a tea party at 2
Mcorde Thank God he did not drop his watch right where he stood.
qsqua oh a penny
This is the best thing I'll read all year.
I've had enough of 3Ds today..
Shay: I will protect as many lives as possible from this insanity.
Also Shay: 43:17
*kicks harder*
*much harder*
she was into it i swear
*continues to kicks harder*
Reminds me of vegeta from DBZA "I will kill as many people as I have to as long as you are one of them"
In Chronological order(for those who are wondering):
Assassin's Creed 4 ---------> Assassin's Creed Rogue -------> Assassin's Creed 3/Assassin's Creed Unity
The complete order:
Origins
Ac1
Ezio trilogy
Black flag
Rogue
Ac3
Unity
Syndicate
Lurtzi yes
Precursor film
Odyssey
Origins
AC1
Revelations Flashbacks
AC Unity Intro
Ezio Trilogy
Black Flag
Rogue/AC3
Ac3/AC Unity
AC Unity
Syndicate
Well, the first portion of AC 3 technically happens before Rogue (the Haytham lands in Boston, meeting Ziio, etc).
@@Lurts The UPDATED complete order:
Origins
Odyssey
Ac1
Ezio trilogy
Black flag
Rogue
Ac3 / Unity (SAME TIMELINE)
Syndicate
Desmond
It amazes me how well these guys speak while they are dying.
***** what are you talking about? I'm talking about how a majority of assassinations happen in the series as they are talking in their dying breath they seem to be able to speak in coherent speech.
In every assassins creed and I mean every. All the main enemies had final words in their final seconds of life.
PhreshDubstep You think at least one of them would die instantly or at least cough up blood as they are speaking their last words. I remember Haytham was speaking as if he just got a splinter in his hand before he just dropped dead..
***** But thats not how he died. Those final words are memory corridors and only reveal the last true intention or thoughts of the victim in correspondence to the protagonist. Haytham actually died when Connor stabbed him in the heart slowly according to Connors journal in AC FORSAKEN. That neck stab was merely just an injury that the game just rushed in.
guns854 And you are going off this based on what?
I love the crossover at the end, its so cool how it connects to unity!
"All those souls lost... One more hardly matters."
My favourite scene! >.
He was the best assassin in his brotherhood, he should've replaced that wretched achilles
Assassins creed Rogue is definitely my favorite since the days of assassins creed 2.
Not only because the story line is so great. But because we can finally play as a Templar.
My wish has been answered. I have always had more passion for the Templars than the Assassins.
martingeld you know that in assassin creed 3 you can be a templer haythem Kenway
I HATE Templars they are IDIOTS
@@sniperassassinac8492
Assassins preach freedom, they say that people should be wise and rational. Yet they kill anyone who goes against them. If anyone's idea of peace conflicts with the Assassins they silence them. How is that called freedom? Maybe the Order is idiocy. But the Brotherhood is hypocrisy.
P.S I prefer Templar ideals.
@TUME 1 lol
@@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337 only the colonial brotherhood does that tho
Shay is the coolest Templar next too kenway
Those are the only 2 playable ones LOL!
But where's charles lee?
@@johnmelescoto7337 I honestly hated Charles and glad Connor assassinated him
@@Kagetora- everyone hate that shit lol , only shay deserves to be respected as a templar
I agree. I have Assassin's Creed: Black Flag and it's always something to do both on sea and land
it's a shame this title kinda went under the radar. i quite enjoyed it and shay is an interesting character. i also like that it makes you see things from the other side. there are big moral grey areas in the age-old feud between assassins and templars. neither of the factions is entirely good or entirely evil.
Thanks for the recording. It makes it easier for me to relive the memories of this game so short without going through the whole sequences again.
It's nice to finally see Adawalde and Achilles interact.
I know
+The Goofy Gouf 'interact' ;D
I agree
AND Then watch them suffer and die.
1:36:09 I like how when Haytham does this when he's with Connor, Connor has a HUGE problem with it. When he does this with Shay, Shay has absolutely no problem with it like it's just another thing to him. This distinction is what I loved about this game. Seeing things from the other side, the opposite perspective, was just amazing. I've always likened Shay's fall from the Assassins to the Templars to be very reminiscent of Anakin Skywalkers change of heart, AND they're both prequels essentially (and I'm a HUGE sucker for prequels!)
What are you talking about? Shay didn't turn into a bad guy because he became a Templar. His turn to the Templars wasn't "fall" either. The Assassins had become corrupted and at that point, the Templars were genuinely better.
Indeed. Haytham always kills people when he's done with them. One less loose end I suppose, but like Connor, I disagree with it. It just shows the different way of thinking. Templars use force and intimidation on anyone to get what they want.
Assassins don't kill unless they deserve it.
It's literally one of the tenants. "Stay my blade from the flesh of the innocent."
You could make the point he wasn't innocent because he was working with them, but he's still just a low level grunt who doesn't call the shots.
@@pedrobatista2529 The Assassins at this point were either corrupt or naive, but Shay is definitely not a good guy. He says he'll kill everyone who defends Achilles and admits to becoming a monster right before he kills Adewalé. Also he's the only AC protagonist who can kill civilians without causing desynchronization, meaning he did actually do that at some point.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 Of course he would kill anyone who sided with Achilles. The guy was a genocidal madman that needed to be stopped as far as he was concerned. Even still, he felt sorry for having to kill Adéwale, Liam and even Hope.
I don't like that he can kill civillians. That was a mistake on the dev's part IMO. But I can understand that he has to be able to kill British soldiers even though they're supposed to be allies. Maybe that's why killing civillians doesn't cause desynchronization. It doesn't have anything to do with the lore. The character's whole storyline is based around him being concerned with the common people.
@@chaoticstarfish3401 I do have a theory on that but it's my own little theory shay once killed a few civilians he thought were assassin plants caseing the bounty hunters to come after him. His whole thing is he defects because he believes "innocents" where lost. Note he doesn't say "civilians" and as we know assassin's are masters of deception. So maybe after a few years in the Templar order he becomes very Paranoid over the idea of assassin's hunting him down. Thus Shay thinks that the civilians he killed are assassin's. Or more likely I'm just inhaling a bunch of cope gas.
I enjoy when AC games actually do something different.
Instead of going back to what has already been done, like Unity, it seems that it's more rewarding when they try to do something different. Black Flag gave us new gameplay, while Rogue gave us different perspective.
Lol this didn't age well at all
Really wish Unity had an ending that allowed you to kill Shay. I love the guy, but that would have been a great story point for Arno.
Josh M its impossible cuz Shay said in the end of Rogue he is old
And he dead of a nagural cause
I want to see shays Head because of what he did.
SuperSniper HD And I want to see your head...
The Samurai Soul why?
SuperSniper HD and why u want to see Shay's Head?
We're working on Unity as we speak!
with 15 fps?
remco bomhof Not gonna lie, it was the struggle
haha i believe it :P
hahahah :D lol that guy walking on 60:01... :D while a factory is exploding, doesn't give any fuks :D
Simeon Jekov Just another bad Monday, I suppose! :D
In my opinion Shay has the best story out of all the other assassin's. Assassin's Creed Rogue has the best story.
Elaborate please, I don't see why you feel this.
@@flawedbutheavy Still no response what a surprise
@@zakariahborenyi5717 almost a year since i asked. Damn
@@flawedbutheavy It's his opinion, man. No need to be triggered.
@@twohandedswordsman852 i don’t see how what i said is being triggered. Stop being ignorant
"Your father would be ashamed!"
Oh look who remembered edward! I'm pretty sure he felt ashamed and said sorry but you chose to leave him for the assassin's even though he needed you the most. You know what i'm talking about.
I still sympathize with the Templars far more than the Assassins. I'm glad we got to play as one
43:18 ATTEMPT TO KILL ONE OF THE CRIMINALS, BUT ENDS UP CURB STOMPING AN OLD LADY XD
Honestly looking back at this game, it was probably one of the best games in the AC universe the plan behind this game of being able to play as a Templar and an assassin hunter was amazing! The only problem was that this game came out when EVERYONE was getting a PS4 and the ps3 era was coming to an end and it didn’t help that it came out the same time as Unity which you should know what happened. If Ubisoft waited to release this game at least a year or two after Unity and worked on making the story longer and adding different elements to the game, then I believe it could’ve been a lot better to most AC fans eyes! If Ubisoft makes a sequel to this I’ll definitely buy it because Shay’s story isn’t done yet
Wow the story for this game was just incredible
The biggest missed opportunity on the _Assassin’s Creed_ series is that Connor and Shay never faced each other.
if ubisoft somehow make this crossover i do really hope they talk and share their mind and philosopies, not just gIVe mE LeE
@@naufeel_abf Connor: "What would you have me do?
Shay: "Make your own luck."
@@sinjinreed2091 goddamn it I got chills
Arno never got to him either. Shay trained his kid and his grandkid to become assassin hunters, shame we didnt get a peek at them either
Weird, the cover image had Shay wearing a hood along with his templar outfit.
But throughout this game you only see him make use of a scarf like mask.
If he had a hood it would add more of that "Assassin gone rouge" feeling don't you think?
So it's Shay that kills Arno's father!
Alex James Yes Charles Dorian is Arno's father
YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This idiot killed Almost all Assasins
SniperAssassinAC 😂😂😂😂😂 yas because the are the bad assassins not the good thes is way shey have been atembler so shay is the best one
And he is not idiot your the idiot
Just finished playing this game for the 4th time and I really do have to say that they did a great job with it. It keeps a lot of elements from Black Flag, but that's to be expected when they were working on two games at once. Had they scrapped Unity however and just focused on this it honestly could've been the best game in the franchise. What impresses me most is the overall storyline, which is just as good as any of the earlier entires, and even better in some cases. What I enjoy about it all most isn't even Shay and his character arc (Though he was definitely fun to play as), but the character of Achilles. Since AC3 we were all wondering just what he did that lead to the destruction of his Brotherhood, and here we get to see that it really is all his fault. (Which he did admit in AC3).
However, similar to earlier characters in the franchise, when you consider his history the mistakes he made, and they were mistakes, make perfect sense. Consider, Ah Tabai was his Mentor, and therefore his own teachings and ideology reflect those of said Mentor. He creates and runs the Colonial Brotherhood in a similar way that Ah Tabai ran the Carribeans. Each of the core members of the group is spread throughout the region, instead of solely being collected in just one city, and is then working on his or her own tasks, to contribute to the larger group as a whole. Achilles and Ah Tabai are both careful to keep in contact with various other Branches of Assassins around the world.
At the same time, Achilles makes hunting down Precursor knowledge and Artifacts a central goal of his Brotherhood. Why would he not do that, when Ah Tabai made protecting one such Precursor site (The Observatory) and tracking any possible Sages a central goal of his own Brotherhood? He most certainly would've informed Achilles about the Observatory and explained to him that guarding it was his (Ah Tabai's) responsibility, which then of course leads to the claim Achilles makes to Shay in Rogue; that hunting down the Artifacts isn't a right, but the responsibility of the Assassins.
now I know who Arno father killer is, poor Arno never new who it was
41:28 Amazing dailogue, best cutscene ever !
1:02:45, that was the most legendary NPC I've ever seen in gaming 🎮😨.
this game made me think. could the Assassins have been the real villains in this franchise the whole time? Haythem said that freedom would be an invitation to chaos. then again, both organizations could just be neccessary evil fighting an endless war, seeking the pieces of Eden to give themselves an edge. which do you think is better? freedom with chaos or order with control?
The assassins in this age are indeed villains but for different reasons... they inspire complete devotion to Il Mentore and that's exactly what Altaïr and Ezio fought against... they wanted mankind to follow their own path as he said in a speech after killing Savonarola:
"Do not follow me, or anyone else!"
The war between the Assassin's and the Templars is just a missunderstanding sometimes
I actually think that both Assassins and Templars bring balance thus they must stay at war (or work together, but I highly doubt that) in order for the world to stay in balance. The world should have freedom, but order as well. You cannot eat freedom. For example prison. In prison you aren't free, constantly receive orders and commands and must obey them or face consequences, but you get fed every night and have shelter from the cold, where a homeless man lives freely without anybody controlling his life, but starves and sleeps in the cold. So I'm in between, even though I think most Templars are dogs, they're still important. I was totally against the Templars in syndicate as it left people starving under control, where like with Unity I was much more laid back with them
Sparda Kurkov the Templars are just stupid the Assasins are the true and GOOD ones
Sparda Kurkov templars want a dictatorship, assassin wants freedom with no government. Basicly tyranny vs anarchy. Both are wrong. But atleast the assassins are openminded enough to let you choose what you want. So the assassins have an edge.
1:57:01 He mentions Connor and his assassins undoing Templar business from the American revolution but Connor is still a student of Achilles during this time. The cutscene takes place in 1776 and AC3 ends in 1781
Connor has become the “face” of the American assassins by this time
Haytham... still a badass.
Volivar i agree
Gotta love Haytham
I’m still confused how he is still young in ac 3
@@zerogamer935 the rogue is before the ac 3 they said the story is backwards
ShaunFromYT 893 Ik now
Just seeing the beginning was enough to let me know this assassins creed is something different. I'm not playing thieves trying to handle things their own way, I'm playing a man that has some convictions and he wants something different and is putting that life behind him. Not all Templars were jerks and Shay displays that. I'm still in the beginning.
In fact every Templar hate Rodrigo Borgia!!!
I love how it all links in with all the other assassin creed games (AC3, Black Flag, and Unity) very intelligent move for ubisoft
"I make my own lunch, Liam."
1:02:44 No f's given
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
43;20 how he tried to kill the guy but kicked a lady instead :D
Honestly such an underrated game and storyline. Shay is a real badass and I would love to see him in future AC games as the antagonist.
Can't imagine what this game would have been if they put real time and effort into it.
I realize now that that last assassination, Charles was calling for his boy named Arno (from AC Unity). Also all the Ac games from three show other characters from other games in the franchise. Achillies Haytham, Charles Lee, William Johnson, and Adewale! Small world
The character models of Ubisoft are out of this world and why i love all these assassin's creed games❤
1:57:05 CONNOR!!!
I love how the outfit gliches between Interm and Templar outfits. 😂
Okay, how was anyone surprised that Shay survived the fall? The mere fact that his genetic memories are available are indication that he very clearly did survive and lived long enough to pass on his genes. Even Ubisoft can't keep up with their own lore.
Have you noticed even after the fall there is no records of him ever passing on his genes
Rouge is one of the best Assassin's Creed games ever made and that's a fact.
1:02:50 that dude still walking during the explosion like nothing happens lmaoo. it would be perfect if he got squashed
Yvng Lee cool guys don’t look at the explosions they walk away like a boss 😎😂😂😂
Sorry about all the ads guys, it's a glitch, trying to fix it
Probably problems that deals with the Helix :)
+samcollends kkk
João Bellasco
That isn't funny.
+samcollends yes its funny its true ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jared Garleb
No because he said k three times. He's a fucking racist
Altiar:
“have their blades touched the innocent?..
then they must be killed” Shay did save the creed from being compromised. After this the assassins just did what they did after the fall of Masyaf, go into hiding and scatter. After some time Ezio rebuilt the order from the ground up and that’s what’s imminent after this as well.
This game made AC3 even more better than what it already was because it made AC3 seem like Achilles 2nd chance of redemption after his poor leadership created probably the worlds most dangerous Templar
I wish they would make a assassin's creed where Connor is coming to Paris and fights with Arno against the Templars and in the end take revenge on Shay.
Donkey Chainsaw Read the fan made story Assassin's Creed Legacies. The three (Shay, Connor and Arno) met there. Face to face. It was just short though.
Just search it. I hope Ubisoft acknowledge it amd make it a dlc. :D
GOD, YES. I'm copying-paste what I have just said above:
'My princess' dream is to have a new game where Connor and Arno join forces to take Shay down and while they actually do it, they are faced with his son/daughter that might or might not turn back to the Creed. I would be such a happy person. ;;'
Im agree
@@nanythelittlestar I don't think a fight should be necessary. I think just have Connor and Arno confront Shay, who must have been pretty old by the time of the French Revolution. Shay will tell them why he did it. And, it could be in London. Think about it, with Connor hunting Templars all over the American republic and Arno in Paris, where would Shay hide other than England?
Or perhaps in Lisbon, where Shay will tell them the story of the Lisbon earthquake and Assasin's meddling in it.
@Red -crunch bruh shay can take down both Connor and Arno together he's an assassin killer not just a normal Templar
one of my favorite assassin's Creed games out there. I don't know why. it's just amazing
Ok I haven’t played this game but I love how it directly finishes where Unity started. Wow, this is why I play these games, the storyline is pretty damn good. More tie ins for future creed games I hope. As if typing this I still need to play Origins and Rogue but I will eventually.
How can a game be a movie when a movie cannot be a game?
? There are plenty of games based off of movies.
+Edward Kenway Game=Movie+Interactivity. Thus, Movie=Game-Interactivity
+Edward Kenway
Most games ARE movies, what sets them apart from the movies is their interactivity.
+grimfrog11 And plenty of movies based on on games...
Edward Kenway nothing is true everything is permitted
Regardless of overall how short Rogue is, I still find it to be leagues ahead in terms of quality compared to Unity.
Shay started as a recruit assassin and now became a deadly templar hunter of assassins
( Video so good that I can watch it again and again XD )
I love how chevalier sounds more French in Rouge, than all the Frenchmen in Unity - Which is meant to be the FRENCH Revolution era, based in France, is it not... ?
That ending sync with Unity was 👌
30:37
Me to myself: "That is true."
Me again to myself after I realized, "but nothing is true." 😂
Is it just me, or that Shay seems to be in a kind of impossible love pursuit with Hope?
30:41 If everything is permitted, then no one is safe.
*Passes by exploding tank*
"Ah another fine day in New York"
I played through all of unity wearing shay's Templar outfit. It's my favorite one right now.
Four Protagonists are in this game, never noticed that before.
Haytham, first protagonist of Ac3.
Arno, the Protagonist of Unity.
Adewale, the protagonist of Freedom Cry.
And Shay, the Protagonist of Rogue.
Connor and Edward were Mentioned.
The Soldiers in France have white clothes.
But when you play Unity, which is literally the same time, the clothes of them are blue?
During Unity Ubisoft probably just didn't want to bother with using different player models for the time periods. The blue uniforms are French revolutionaries in actual history. They were called the National Guard.
1:26:13 that moment was so badass
OK, for the last time guys, it's "Rogue" not rouge.
ughhhhh, playing as a Templar turns my stomach, Shay is an amazing character with an amazing story, but dammit I hate killing Assassins, just makes me remember Ezio and Altair and how they would do anything to stop him and yet we (the player) are helping the other side......
Bloody Ninja No they didn't,both groups want the same thing,but their methods are different in this universe created for this game,but because we always play as an Assassin we believe they are the good guys.We actually saw in AC3 that the Templars wanted to save the natives to be colonized,but because the natives saw every foreigner as an enemy they didn't understood,so the Templars used force to do that.In the end when Connor killed them,the natives lost,he didn't do anything to improve the situation.he actually made it worse
Just a bunch of pixels changing colour on a screen there are no "Templars" or "assassins" no your not killing assassins your sitting on your ass looking at a bunch of pixels on a screen that resemble some dude stabbing another dude
Timelessunfish _ cool story bro
Bloody Ninja During Altairs time the assassin leader lost his mind for power.
I know what you mean
Assassins Creed Rogue Quotes
"I make my own luck"
- Shay Patrick Cormac
"I don't miss"
- Liam
"So much potential, yet so little discipline"
- Hope
Add more
"Cabbage Farmer"
-Chevalier
"Pity..you had so much potential." - Hope
Nice to see Haytham again. He looks even sexier here :)
Younger
Then Arno came back and killed him with 539,876 dlc weapons, THE END
+MR sc0rpi0n did he?????????
'Twould take a lot more than 539,876 weapons to take down Shay.
Shay defeated him then let him leave cause he is a merciful templar
i doubt Arno even find Shay.He gives 0 fuck.
DUDES... My princess' dream is to have a new game where Connor and Arno join forces to take Shay down and while they actually do it, they are faced with his son/daughter that might or might not turn back to the Creed. I would be such a happy person. ;;
Opinion: more games should let you choose your side at one point in the game
Like a few others here I too have enjoyed Shaye's story a lot more than Arno's. Thank you for your continued work GLP team!
Really hoping the next game involves Connor and Shay. Now that will be a great. But what I would really want to see is a Templar turning into an assassin now. That would make things even more interesting I think.
Thank you for making all your vids i only played through a couple of the olds ones so it’s always good to see what really happened in these games
I literally lost it at 57:49
'You have to kill me shay!'
Proceeds to literally stab the dude in the back and shove a sword through his heart. Yep that will do it
This was my first Assassin's Creed exposure and I don't regret playing this. Getting to play on both sides of this rivalry of the Assassin's and the Templar's. Also, I love Shay's character development through the game's course.
Thanks for the upload Shay is a great character with a great story I really enjoyed
That old couple who took care of Shay were the MVPs of this story.
I liked how Black Flag, 3 and Rogue tied in. I would like to follow another family of Assassin's.
Darryl Davis also the basterdize game that is unity
I mean, I had endgame equipment within a couple of hours. Mainly for Shay, but I have to say if I ever joined a brotherhood and they treated me like they did to him? I’d have left, and the rest would have been up to chance. This game’s economy is pretty easy to exploit, get your first upgradable building and wait around a few hours for it to drop coin and upgrade the city to full capacity. Then upgrade shay and gather every single treasure in the first city and take time to go out to a few islands. (This is only available once you turn Templar, and the upgrade cites tend to be city buildings and churches. Churches pay out extremely well.) Then, begin upgrading the ship until you reach something overlevel and competent. Proceed to pillage and sack the French into oblivion. Boom, you’re well on your way!
Currently playing the Ezio trilogy, which makes this sound like the first time that the actors saw the script was when they were recording it.
Thank you for uploading this! It turned out to be an awesome game indeed
Even after betraying the assassins, Shay is still an assassin by heart.
Thanks for this man, I've only watched 20 minutes so far but wanted to comment since I could've forgotten in 2 hours :P Good job man ^_^
Watched it all, still good job man. Gonna watch Unity next :)
Shay was a good man and proves the assassins aren't always the good guys
Love Rogue cuz we were always shown that AC is the good guy and templars bad straight up. Rogue showed that assassins are just as open to messing up as templars are.
Wow, I REALLY hope they eventually port this game to the One as part of an AC combo pack down the road because this game's story in enthralling. An extremely interesting story with a main character I REALLY emphasize with and give a shit about.
I like how it Connected all the recent Assassin’s Creed games. AC3, AC4, And Unity. They mentioned Connor, Ade and Achilles are in the game fleshing out Achilles’ backstory, Ade’s time as an Assassin and the beginning of Unity and we even see more of Haytham when he was younger in the colonies . All in all, fuck Shay😂😂
1:02:35 like a boss
I can't believe how many 'noble words' I have learnt by watching the Cutscenes of AC Rogue.
such a short but amazing game.
I love how you put brief gameplay to make it not too choppy :D I personally prefer rogue cause tbh, the templars were in the right this time... :P