I have a 2006 1000cc racing bike with no ABS, no IMU, no launch control, no traction control, no engine modes and no engine braking adjustment and it is great knowing they are not there to stop me from flying off the track at any time. I really like that and it makes it so much fun to ride. Each to their own I guess. Enjoy riding!
+Nicholas Kemp Bikes have been close to perfect for the last 10 years, they just need to add uneccessary shit so that people will keep buying them thinking they will be much safer...
Buy used Aprilia cheap, I have older one in mint condition , never a problem, good thing because US aprilia dealers don't get factory support when there is a warranty issue . Kawasaki great too,
No! Unfortunately I had an accident and I'm trying to put it together! I have pics on Instagram... pacheco_gsxr I have trackvideos with my gixxer and pics of my rsv4
Kawi all the way! The restrictions on this bike are insane. Not only is it US restricted, it has 3 catalytic converters! With a de restriction it makes 15 more horses. With de restriction, slip on and tune, it makes 25 more hp peak and at least 10 more hp through out the rev range.
+Afrorider Motovlogs heres a dyno from ghul motors. scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/1782367_1087321017992034_4063151339144534500_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9 Hope that link works for you. I'm assuming you know how to read a dyno chart? This is Sae scale that's why it reads lower than this channel's std reading. The green is stock at 164 hp. Brown/Red is Unrestricted at 182 hp and decat with link pipe is 191 hp! That's a 27 hp increase from stock. I didn't theorize these things, I research results. The Aprillia is a great machine, but other than engine sound and it's exotic factor... Kawi all the way!
+Ian Pana You sound like someone who has no experience riding an Aprilia! and you forget a small detail, that Aprilia is just as stock as that kawi. reading numbers online doesn't tell the whole story. there is much more to a liter bike than straight up horse power. Torque, power delivery, engine character, handling and Rider skills are a big part...
Ian Pana U right and I know the Kawi is the most restricted, that's why I don't like it so much anymore, because you have to add an extra $3-4k just to get the full power. But the better handling/chassi and extra torque of the Aprilia, Racy feel, looks and sound makes up for the lack of raw power (which isn't much difference) in my opinion. Also, it just feels more special man... Finally, now a days there just isn't a bad liter bike. These are just tiny details
+Ian Pana I know a guy in germany he gets 218HP out of the new ZX just by removing the restrictions and chip adjustments, decat - bye bye Arillia (and anybody else)
For me this is a great video for personal reasons as ive just sold a 2016 ZX10R Winter ❄️ Edition for a 2019 Aprilia RSV4 RR two absolute fantastic bikes 💯
i own a gen4 zx10r and tested a gen5 last week. the gen5 feels gutless compared the gen4. on the road the gen4 feels faster but when your flat out the gen5 is very fast. one thing to mention about the gen5 is its engine is super smooth and its decieving how fast your actually going because of this. gen4 for road gen5 for track
I would go with the ZX10R for one reason! as far as aftermarket parts goes the ZX10R part's have more available worldwide and cheaper, that's my thoughts.
+Afrorider Motovlogs Did you watch the two lap videos? Look at how much more composed and quicker the Aprilia is. No contest. So much for those fancy forks...! And this is only the base model RSV4...
+Afrorider Motovlogs I wanted to believe... I like Kawasaki... if I can't put together an Aprilia racebike over the next year, I'll probably go there. But... dammit, the Ape just suits my riding style. It's amazing that with the standard Ape suspension, the superiority of the platform is *that* visible. Then there's the size of the ZX10R, it looks 50% bigger, lol
I have to admit that I thought the ZX10R would bring more game. But I also know just how good the RSV4 is. Three things that I kind of wonder about: one the RSV4 does have some engine braking control - the Race throttle map and Track throttle map differ only in the amount of engine braking they do. Secondly, the RSV4 has Brembo M432 calipers which are actually a small evolution on the M50 calipers that are on the ZX10R. Interestingly, I have read another test that slaked the ZX10R's brakes and I think the difference between the bikes on test here could be somewhat down to pad wear or the like, though with the RSV4's engine in the lowest (stock) position, braking is slightly different. Third, the "5-axis IMU" is not really an advancement of what the Aprilia has, as we live in a 3D world, not a 5D world, and I wonder about whether is really an advantage in it or the Yamaha system, which uses the newer IMU as well... from what I have heard to date, the ZX10R system still needs some love to work the way you'd expect. The 5-axis system may be a way to work around the advanced TC patents that Aprilia has. All that said, cheers to Kawasaki, as they have brought a bike which is competitive with the european models. They're very close. And yes the Kawasaki can be de-restricted for considerably more power but honestly this is the base-level V4 here, too.
+Steve C regarding the 5 axis IMU, you actually need 6 parameters to locate and predict a body position in a 3d environment: z, y and z inclination and x, y and z velocity.
Im looking at these 2 bikes. Is there any reliability issues right now with the 2016 RSV4's? The only thing that may potentially scare me away is the maintenance and service intervals/valve adjustments etc. I would be doing strictly street, so hopefully it wouldnt be that bad.
+the8jrfan It depends, if I could pick the ninja h2 I would anyday! But if it were the zx10r, id prefer much more the aprilia rsv4rf! Its a bit more expensive though but an awesome machine
Neel Beke Idk my buddy had a RSV4 a little while back and after 2200 miles he took it in (after the first oil change) and almost all of the valves were so out of whack it damaged the head, so they replace the head, a few thousand miles later guess what? same thing! So this time supposedly its fixed, it had something to do with the, and don't quote me cuz I'm not a mechanic and I can't really remember at the moment, but the spacers for the valves were not heat treated properly and they failed.
+CBRandCar S1000 is a numbers/bragging bike, way too unreliable to consider. They have way too many emgine problems to be taken seriously in my opinion. BMW needs to learn that power delivery and reliability are more important than the extra 5 hp. The ergonomics on the S1000 are definitely trailing the new competitor bikes. They're definitely rocket ships in a straight line though.
He says the 2016 ZX10R is "Worlds better than the 2015 model" I think that must be an overstatement. Some reviewers are saying the 2016 mid range power slightly better but brakes not quite that same good feel as 2015. I would test ride both and make my mind up. I like the review just because I get to see the bike out on the track in stock form.
From California where lane splitting is legal, own the Kawi. From the stop light, this one is slower off the line than my 2006 GSX-R1000. I like to get in front of the cages, big green is making it difficult for me.
What's wrong with the Aprilia's seat? You didn't mention anything about it in the whole video until the end where you said that the only thing you need to change on the Aprilia is the seat, but you never mentioned any reason for it.
+Andrew Hoffman Steeper gearing to take more advantage of the high RPM horsepower. But you could also do the same to the Aprilia, it just doesn't need it as much as the zx10r does, as its power delivery is broader.
Am I seeing it right, Aprilia doesn't have rear seat /pegs? I love it for the way tank and seat make it really comfortable to lean, but I like to have the utility of throwing someone on the back if needed (crashed biker /girlfriend needs a quick lift...)
Aprilia if bought new with a great warranty and Ninja if bought used. (Also probably Ninja anyway cuz my first entry in the big bikes was the Zx6r and it never gave me a single problem.)
Steve C I know right.. But what i was really trying to say that they didn't talk enough about the full electronic package of these bikes and how they differ from each other.. Anyways.. I'm more of a fan of Aprilia as well.. More than bmw.
Mik.... I'll take a freakin cruiser over a Kawasaki and believe me when I say this.... Cruising is my last option when it comes to riding a motorcycle!!!
I've ridden several of my friends Kawasaki's before and it really seems logical enough to me (based on the video performance of this video) that one who "BLEEDS" green would be better off buying an older Kawasaki for the purchasing rather than a (paint scheme) for far less money.
I want these bikes in my garage but insurance would cost more than the bikes lol I wish 600cc bikes had the charisma and electronics the liter class did. I would sell both of my current bikes to buy a 600cc version of the rsv4
+The Muscle Biker I have a RSV4 and Liability is $27/month, Full coverage is $95/month. But I'm 28 and my driving record isn't perfect. If you want a rsv4 go get it
Afrorider Motovlogs I'm only 21 and my ZX6R would be 2300 for a full year (I pay 450 just for liability even though I don't have any infractions on my record) my other bike 300cc is 900 for full coverage. I love being young but it does come with a cost haha My insurance quoted me 3500 a year for the RSV4 and 2200 for the Tuono I'll just give it time until I am 25
+Omkar Khamkar The Aprilia will go over 190mph in stock format, so both bikes would be better served with steeper gearing on smaller tracks - probably.
Steve C i was asking for the ninja... on the street it is quite high geared... Also for some drag event and occasional track days... I think the recommended ratio is fine
Very forgiving and with its electronic aids, you could make the case that it's decent. But NO, it is not. It is a 200hp superbike, and it can go so quickly with so little time, it is not good for the hands of a beginner. Get a cheap, low-powered bike like a SV650 and learn to ride on it - drop it a couple times in a parking lot like everyone does. Then get a bike that you really want. I know nobody wants to do things the smart way but ...
No offense but this is a stupid question. When I first started riding it never occurred to me that a liter bike would be a good idea to buy as a first bike let alone a $16,000 one. I mean did you do any research at all? Grab a ninja 250 for the cheap and upgrade in a few months
+Ogre Doug actually I got it for 12k on sale and I got the person something they can grow into. I started on a liter bike it's about the rider not the bike. they have yet to crash and it's been 2 months but thanks for your interpretation.
Ojohnathan Smith Still too much for a first bike.......2 months aint a long time. The whole "grow into it" thing is baloney. Had you started on a 600 I'd have no issue because I did. Brand new 200hp bike though? Naw that aint the move my guy. Good luck and ride safe though
Well Dani pedrosa is your height sooooo... I dunno what your experience is but assuming it's not much, otherwise you might not be asking for this advice on your tube :) Ducati 959 looks pretty awesome. I'd say go test ride that and see how it goes... Less mental than the other two you mention.
hi mate thanks for the suggestion, the 959 looks pretty nett over the 899, however it will only reach here on july, which i dont really think ima wait that long, and yes im very awfully less experiance, i baught my first bike which is the fz07, had only put 7000km on the odo, since ive hold some cash i decide to just jump on the litter, my only concern for the heights is when i need to stop on emergency cases, without 2 feet on, i wouldnt be able to make a decent safe stop, you know nowadays, road is really dangerous for speeding :(
The 899 is not a liter bike in term of power. It got 150hp compared to all the other bike that you mention. However the handling is super and would be much more fun because its easier to manage the power.
You have to wait! The concept is not as good as Zx-10R or Aprilia RSV4 is. They had to release it later because at the same time with Ninja, nobody will buy the gixxer. They must improve till 2017.
+rtcivic Wsbk motorcycles have nothing in common with the zx10r you buy at the dealership, only share the same name and looks! and you ain't Jonathan Rae or Tom Sykes... Just saying
+Afrorider Motovlogs Yep, if you want to get some idea of what the bikes can do in real life (aka, the bikes you can buy), you look at SuperStock. Well, Aprilia won World SuperStock last year.
Awesome review guys!!! Absolutely loved it. Aprillia RSV-4 is definitely my cup of tea. Maybe even in my future! I agree.. At that price, the Aprillia provides a better package. Just replace the ass-numbing seat and you're good to go!
+Angry Skipper watch chasing a 2016 zx 10r with a duke 390 on my channel. also did a break in ride for the zx-10r available on the channel. do subscribe if you like it
+Angry Skipper I really don't think the Aprilia's seat is worse than anyone else's and it's better than most. My GSX-R seat would start out comfortable and an hour later, felt like my ass was straddling the frame rails.
So any muppet - like the wannabes here show casing these beautiful machines, would be happy with any of them? They are all way too fast and have performance beyond anyone, except a professional rider, can ever use.
Odd. I know the subject of discussion here is the 2016 ZX10, and the last one I rode was a 2012 version, but their comments would apply perfectly to that... I am an old litre bike rider, I got my first 4 valve GSX11 in 1980, and the big midrange is one of the things I love about large bikes. The XZ10R is a lot like riding a 600... It does go, but you need to be at about 10 for it to happen.
+Kneedragon1962 That the thing I loved about my FZ6 too. It was nice and calm as a pussy cat at low RPM. Great for riding around town or on a twisty road. If you decided to let it wander into the high RPM range that pussy cat became a roaring lion.
Is that really what you want in a liter bike? You would know if you’ve indeed been at it for those many years! Seems to me late 90’s early 2000 liter bikes had what I want in midrange. Your thoughts?
Unfortunately even the gel seat for Aprilia is only marginally better. :( It upsets me as I can only ride for a little over an hour before needing a serious break.
It kills my butt/lower back after just over an hour. I have made it almost 2 hours and I was dying. Lol After about 15 min break I was good again though
+Adam Dean i have the rsv4 rr and last sunday i was about 6hours street riding with small cigarette breaks and i wasnt tired at all. 1-2 hours and you are k.o.? it will be the same in any sport bike then...maybe go a bit on the gym and not mc donalds 😂
I'm an amateur rider, when it comes to racing, I'd choose the zx10r over aprilla, when you race prep this beast.. for sure it will beat most of the competition.. I felt like they choose the rsv4 over the zx10r maybe because it's an italian made, it has a v4 config engine, they felt like more exotic than the zx10r...maybe..but the truth is the zx10r is as good as the rsv4 in any category..
Ugh. By the time I upgrade from the ninja 300 all the liter bikes will be idiot proof. infact now that these bikes are becoming more easy to ride the ninja 300, r3 and the cbr300r (yes the 26hp "dirt bike") will be the bike more easy to crash on! Heck the Yamaha r1m has live suspension adjustment now if you go into a corner to fast not only will the braking combined abs save your butt but the suspension stops diving that most people get from braking to hard! And you can't turn it off!!!
+Afrorider Motovlogs Yeah But I mean if you break hard on these bikes they would help you unlike an non-abs r3 which you would crash! Basicly What I was saying is the liter bikes are becoming more easy to ride than say the fz6r or a non abs ninja 650 or even the cbr500r! The c mode on the r1 cuts the power on it so much that chase said on the first ride video it acted like a 600cc bike!
+Taijean Moodie The key to not lock your brake and crash is to never rely on your brakes 100%. Brake enough and swerve out of the way. experienced riders never lock their brakes because they don't jam on them expecting to stop. Don't brake on a bike like you do on a car.
a major problem in this is that it is ZX10R American version is limited, the European version is much stronger, good analysis, good video
That sweet sound of a V4 engine is unbeatable.
I have a 2006 1000cc racing bike with no ABS, no IMU, no launch control, no traction control, no engine modes and no engine braking adjustment and it is great knowing they are not there to stop me from flying off the track at any time. I really like that and it makes it so much fun to ride. Each to their own I guess. Enjoy riding!
+Nicholas Kemp Bikes have been close to perfect for the last 10 years, they just need to add uneccessary shit so that people will keep buying them thinking they will be much safer...
lol Hey I see you took my advice and now announce the results at the end of the video instead of making us go to your website for the winner. Nice!
+CycleCruza what are your thoughts on the aprillia? you should make a vid!
YourTypicalGeek great bike!
+CycleCruza It may take us awhile, but we listen eventually!
Troy Siahaan great videos, love the reviews!
Boa
id go with the aprillia, same price, sounds better, and ill never be a good enough rider to squick out the advantage.
+Chris Garcia Good LORD that Aprillia sounds erotic
Smart man
Buy used Aprilia cheap, I have older one in mint condition , never a problem, good thing because US aprilia dealers don't get factory support when there is a warranty issue . Kawasaki great too,
i just bought my 2016 aprilia today :)
+javier pach So jealous!! It's my dream to someday own one.
It's an amazing bike man for sure! But insurance is killing me. I would wait until I was like 40 lol
Still no videos of it??
No! Unfortunately I had an accident and I'm trying to put it together! I have pics on Instagram... pacheco_gsxr I have trackvideos with my gixxer and pics of my rsv4
I take the Aprilia all day long that V4 sound can't be compared to any bike out there
MotoExtremeTV just like the maintenance cant be compared lmao
I'd go with the aprilia. Because it's a bit more exotic here in NC and sounds amazing.
V4 is the best engine design for race motorcycle and especially for race bikes.
V4 midrange kings.
Kawi all the way! The restrictions on this bike are insane. Not only is it US restricted, it has 3 catalytic converters! With a de restriction it makes 15 more horses. With de restriction, slip on and tune, it makes 25 more hp peak and at least 10 more hp through out the rev range.
Keep dreaming!
+Afrorider Motovlogs heres a dyno from ghul motors.
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Hope that link works for you. I'm assuming you know how to read a dyno chart? This is Sae scale that's why it reads lower than this channel's std reading. The green is stock at 164 hp. Brown/Red is Unrestricted at 182 hp and decat with link pipe is 191 hp! That's a 27 hp increase from stock.
I didn't theorize these things, I research results. The Aprillia is a great machine, but other than engine sound and it's exotic factor... Kawi all the way!
+Ian Pana You sound like someone who has no experience riding an Aprilia! and you forget a small detail, that Aprilia is just as stock as that kawi. reading numbers online doesn't tell the whole story. there is much more to a liter bike than straight up horse power. Torque, power delivery, engine character, handling and Rider skills are a big part...
Ian Pana U right and I know the Kawi is the most restricted, that's why I don't like it so much anymore, because you have to add an extra $3-4k just to get the full power. But the better handling/chassi and extra torque of the Aprilia, Racy feel, looks and sound makes up for the lack of raw power (which isn't much difference) in my opinion. Also, it just feels more special man... Finally, now a days there just isn't a bad liter bike. These are just tiny details
+Ian Pana I know a guy in germany he gets 218HP out of the new ZX just by removing the restrictions and chip adjustments, decat - bye bye Arillia (and anybody else)
I love finding titles like this when I'm browsing youtube.
For me this is a great video for personal reasons as ive just sold a 2016 ZX10R Winter ❄️ Edition for a 2019 Aprilia RSV4 RR two absolute fantastic bikes 💯
I own the same gen5 zx10r here in the Philippines and believe me without restrictions it can kick ass
Inline 4 is more reliable, more refined and easy to maintain than v4 but v4 sound like a beast.
The F4 will be interesting with the way mv is following, this is a great time to be a biker
i own a gen4 zx10r and tested a gen5 last week. the gen5 feels gutless compared the gen4. on the road the gen4 feels faster but when your flat out the gen5 is very fast. one thing to mention about the gen5 is its engine is super smooth and its decieving how fast your actually going because of this. gen4 for road gen5 for track
+a20rsx
put full sytem on it, get it mapped, and change the gearing, -1 on the front will living the gen5 up
I would go with the ZX10R for one reason! as far as aftermarket parts goes the ZX10R part's have more available worldwide and cheaper, that's my thoughts.
You would think differently the minute you ride an Rsv4 trust me!
+Afrorider Motovlogs Did you watch the two lap videos? Look at how much more composed and quicker the Aprilia is. No contest. So much for those fancy forks...! And this is only the base model RSV4...
+Steve C Those BFF forks are just a gimmick
+Afrorider Motovlogs I wanted to believe... I like Kawasaki... if I can't put together an Aprilia racebike over the next year, I'll probably go there. But... dammit, the Ape just suits my riding style. It's amazing that with the standard Ape suspension, the superiority of the platform is *that* visible. Then there's the size of the ZX10R, it looks 50% bigger, lol
I have to admit that I thought the ZX10R would bring more game. But I also know just how good the RSV4 is. Three things that I kind of wonder about: one the RSV4 does have some engine braking control - the Race throttle map and Track throttle map differ only in the amount of engine braking they do. Secondly, the RSV4 has Brembo M432 calipers which are actually a small evolution on the M50 calipers that are on the ZX10R. Interestingly, I have read another test that slaked the ZX10R's brakes and I think the difference between the bikes on test here could be somewhat down to pad wear or the like, though with the RSV4's engine in the lowest (stock) position, braking is slightly different. Third, the "5-axis IMU" is not really an advancement of what the Aprilia has, as we live in a 3D world, not a 5D world, and I wonder about whether is really an advantage in it or the Yamaha system, which uses the newer IMU as well... from what I have heard to date, the ZX10R system still needs some love to work the way you'd expect. The 5-axis system may be a way to work around the advanced TC patents that Aprilia has.
All that said, cheers to Kawasaki, as they have brought a bike which is competitive with the european models. They're very close. And yes the Kawasaki can be de-restricted for considerably more power but honestly this is the base-level V4 here, too.
+Steve C regarding the 5 axis IMU, you actually need 6 parameters to locate and predict a body position in a 3d environment: z, y and z inclination and x, y and z velocity.
+Steve C and the ZX10 is restricted in america
So uhm... in the 3-axis system, you get change in velocity as well. The two sensor systems are different but not so different.
Steve C just saying why some companies call it a 6 axis system
Im looking at these 2 bikes. Is there any reliability issues right now with the 2016 RSV4's? The only thing that may potentially scare me away is the maintenance and service intervals/valve adjustments etc. I would be doing strictly street, so hopefully it wouldnt be that bad.
Ninja all day everyday!
+the8jrfan It depends, if I could pick the ninja h2 I would anyday! But if it were the zx10r, id prefer much more the aprilia rsv4rf! Its a bit more expensive though but an awesome machine
+Neel Beke they are both awesome bikes
Neel Beke
Idk my buddy had a RSV4 a little while back and after 2200 miles he took it in (after the first oil change) and almost all of the valves were so out of whack it damaged the head, so they replace the head, a few thousand miles later guess what? same thing! So this time supposedly its fixed, it had something to do with the, and don't quote me cuz I'm not a mechanic and I can't really remember at the moment, but the spacers for the valves were not heat treated properly and they failed.
+the8jrfan Cool story bro. Only, it didn't happen.
Steve C
Oh it did buddy you can be sure of that.
Wow was waiting for ur honest review.....
For me id go the zx10r both amazing bikes but for me I just think the Kawasaki has the edge on the all round package
They can say that now about the Ninja, but that Ninja is very restricted. Damn US regulations.
Great video...I gotta get back out there with the fast track family. Miss y'all. 😆👍❤
The Brembo brakes are always a very good choice.
loving the backing music
omg THEY GAVE US A WINNER!!!! congrats
They should've brought to the mix the R1, same price, performance is pretty close too
+Legio XXI Rapax S1000RR > R1 > RSV4 > ZX-10R > 1299 Panigale > CBR1000RR > GSX-R1000
+CBRandCar S1000 is a numbers/bragging bike, way too unreliable to consider. They have way too many emgine problems to be taken seriously in my opinion. BMW needs to learn that power delivery and reliability are more important than the extra 5 hp. The ergonomics on the S1000 are definitely trailing the new competitor bikes. They're definitely rocket ships in a straight line though.
He says the 2016 ZX10R is "Worlds better than the 2015 model" I think that must be an overstatement. Some reviewers are saying the 2016 mid range power slightly better but brakes not quite that same good feel as 2015. I would test ride both and make my mind up. I like the review just because I get to see the bike out on the track in stock form.
At 5:40min. You can see the zx10r hit a higher top speed down the back straight compare to the rsv4
which is more lightweight in track.?
From California where lane splitting is legal, own the Kawi. From the stop light, this one is slower off the line than my 2006 GSX-R1000. I like to get in front of the cages, big green is making it difficult for me.
Does the 2016 ZX10 have a ride by wire throttle ?
Yeah Fontucky! (Fontana). Do more reviews/testing at that speedway. I like that track
when will motorcycle.com review EBR with the rest of the superbikes?
aprilia is dream bike 😍
Isn't the zx10r built to new emission standards while the older aprilia isn't
What's wrong with the Aprilia's seat? You didn't mention anything about it in the whole video until the end where you said that the only thing you need to change on the Aprilia is the seat, but you never mentioned any reason for it.
+Cooot Damn Fool Yes i've never heard anyone complain about it before. It's a nice bike, im probably gonna get one myself.
Guy great review. More reviews like this... Take your time talking about this machines
So what effect is changing the sprocket having, Gearing down or up? Front or back sprocket?
+Andrew Hoffman Steeper gearing to take more advantage of the high RPM horsepower. But you could also do the same to the Aprilia, it just doesn't need it as much as the zx10r does, as its power delivery is broader.
Zx for life
Am I seeing it right, Aprilia doesn't have rear seat /pegs? I love it for the way tank and seat make it really comfortable to lean, but I like to have the utility of throwing someone on the back if needed (crashed biker /girlfriend needs a quick lift...)
+hellario2 It does have them. Neither bike is great for two-up riding but they both have the required bits.
Aprilia if bought new with a great warranty and Ninja if bought used. (Also probably Ninja anyway cuz my first entry in the big bikes was the Zx6r and it never gave me a single problem.)
please make a comparison for mv agusta turismo veloce 800 and yamaha tracer 09
still goes for the ninja specially for my body features..both rockssssssssss
These guys always lean towards the European brands no matter how good the non European product is.
+Mik. Ban Because the european bike in this test is fekking awesome. That's why.
Steve C I know right.. But what i was really trying to say that they didn't talk enough about the full electronic package of these bikes and how they differ from each other.. Anyways.. I'm more of a fan of Aprilia as well.. More than bmw.
Mik....
I'll take a freakin cruiser over a Kawasaki and believe me when I say this....
Cruising is my last option when it comes to riding a motorcycle!!!
william brown I'm not sure about kawi too but did you ride one? Coz it has a decent fan following among Europeans as well..
I've ridden several of my friends Kawasaki's before and it really seems logical enough to me (based on the video performance of this video) that one who "BLEEDS" green would be better off buying an older Kawasaki for the purchasing rather than a (paint scheme) for far less money.
I would like to see you guys have these bikes unrestricted to see the outcome ! The Kawa is euro 4 spec .
I want these bikes in my garage but insurance would cost more than the bikes lol I wish 600cc bikes had the charisma and electronics the liter class did. I would sell both of my current bikes to buy a 600cc version of the rsv4
+The Muscle Biker I have a RSV4 and Liability is $27/month, Full coverage is $95/month. But I'm 28 and my driving record isn't perfect. If you want a rsv4 go get it
Afrorider Motovlogs I'm only 21 and my ZX6R would be 2300 for a full year (I pay 450 just for liability even though I don't have any infractions on my record) my other bike 300cc is 900 for full coverage. I love being young but it does come with a cost haha My insurance quoted me 3500 a year for the RSV4 and 2200 for the Tuono I'll just give it time until I am 25
+The Muscle Biker in U.S.A insurance is freaking expensive :O
dimmacommunication Well correction now I got a huge speeding ticket so I'll probably have to pay 1000 a year for liabilty
+The Muscle Biker the fact that you have your insurance based on ticket promotes safety and well manners on street,but it's bad for us speeders LOL
So where is the race??
Would -1f and +2 rear be an overkill on this one or is fine?? As u said its to high geared... Plz do reply...
+Omkar Khamkar The Aprilia will go over 190mph in stock format, so both bikes would be better served with steeper gearing on smaller tracks - probably.
Steve C i was asking for the ninja... on the street it is quite high geared... Also for some drag event and occasional track days... I think the recommended ratio is fine
The Kawasaki is way cheaper in reality. They are advertised for as low as $12,000 brand new.
is the aprilla a good starter bike and is it forgiving.
Very forgiving and with its electronic aids, you could make the case that it's decent. But NO, it is not. It is a 200hp superbike, and it can go so quickly with so little time, it is not good for the hands of a beginner. Get a cheap, low-powered bike like a SV650 and learn to ride on it - drop it a couple times in a parking lot like everyone does. Then get a bike that you really want. I know nobody wants to do things the smart way but ...
No offense but this is a stupid question. When I first started riding it never occurred to me that a liter bike would be a good idea to buy as a first bike let alone a $16,000 one. I mean did you do any research at all? Grab a ninja 250 for the cheap and upgrade in a few months
+Ogre Doug actually I got it for 12k on sale and I got the person something they can grow into. I started on a liter bike it's about the rider not the bike. they have yet to crash and it's been 2 months but thanks for your interpretation.
Ojohnathan Smith
Still too much for a first bike.......2 months aint a long time. The whole "grow into it" thing is baloney. Had you started on a 600 I'd have no issue because I did. Brand new 200hp bike though? Naw that aint the move my guy. Good luck and ride safe though
+Ogre Doug cool thanks ditto
Ninja always
Kawasaki ftw
hi guys im currently deciding between s1000rr 2016, zx10r 2016, and ducati 899, im super short 5f1, which one would suite me, ty :)
Well Dani pedrosa is your height sooooo... I dunno what your experience is but assuming it's not much, otherwise you might not be asking for this advice on your tube :)
Ducati 959 looks pretty awesome. I'd say go test ride that and see how it goes... Less mental than the other two you mention.
hi mate thanks for the suggestion, the 959 looks pretty nett over the 899, however it will only reach here on july, which i dont really think ima wait that long, and yes im very awfully less experiance, i baught my first bike which is the fz07, had only put 7000km on the odo, since ive hold some cash i decide to just jump on the litter, my only concern for the heights is when i need to stop on emergency cases, without 2 feet on, i wouldnt be able to make a decent safe stop, you know nowadays, road is really dangerous for speeding :(
The 899 is not a liter bike in term of power. It got 150hp compared to all the other bike that you mention. However the handling is super and would be much more fun because its easier to manage the power.
hai mate i finaly choose the s1000rr, had to pull many afford to ride it since im too short, but worth it, thanks mate for the concern :)
Both are mine!
Inline 4 is smooth but V4 irritates
US spec ZX10R is restricted, first remove all the restrictions and then compare it to any bike you like it will blow them all away with 220HP!
+afra33 No. No it won't. Not on pump fuel, anyway.
Kawasaki is best withought restrictions. Stock Kawa is restricted U.S version
Ah good old US restrictions
Ya ... Come to India n u'll have an ass firing 10r with 182 rwhp to play with.. Now that's cool considering it still has that ~10kg cat..
Which is faster and more brutal??
Aprilia lots of torque and mid range is brutal but Kawasaki top end whack is unbeatable..
Aprilia RSV4 RR Martin
U can change the transmission on the zx10r from the side.
I have 2020 zx 10r. First I will flash ecu... Then maybe do a sprocket change. The power down low is not that bad at all especially on the street
Can't wait til new Gixxer 1000 kicks some butt.
You have to wait! The concept is not as good as Zx-10R or Aprilia RSV4 is. They had to release it later because at the same time with Ninja, nobody will buy the gixxer. They must improve till 2017.
+Seuth Sengsourya VVT FTW
Kawasaki is the legend
do a street comparison
all these reviews dropping on the new kawasaki zx10r, 1st and 2nd race the kawasaki zx10r dominates the wsbk atm.
+rtcivic Wsbk motorcycles have nothing in common with the zx10r you buy at the dealership, only share the same name and looks! and you ain't Jonathan Rae or Tom Sykes... Just saying
+Afrorider Motovlogs Yep, if you want to get some idea of what the bikes can do in real life (aka, the bikes you can buy), you look at SuperStock. Well, Aprilia won World SuperStock last year.
+Steve C Most of these guys don't know anything about bikes man!
Awesome review guys!!! Absolutely loved it.
Aprillia RSV-4 is definitely my cup of tea. Maybe even in my future!
I agree.. At that price, the Aprillia provides a better package. Just replace the ass-numbing seat and you're good to go!
+Angry Skipper watch chasing a 2016 zx 10r with a duke 390 on my channel. also did a break in ride for the zx-10r available on the channel. do subscribe if you like it
+Angry Skipper I really don't think the Aprilia's seat is worse than anyone else's and it's better than most. My GSX-R seat would start out comfortable and an hour later, felt like my ass was straddling the frame rails.
Aprilia....FTW!
So any muppet - like the wannabes here show casing these beautiful machines, would be happy with any of them? They are all way too fast and have performance beyond anyone, except a professional rider, can ever use.
hi troy ,are you indonesian ?
this guy troy siahaan is indonesian?
great. 2 best bikes 2016
Odd. I know the subject of discussion here is the 2016 ZX10, and the last one I rode was a 2012 version, but their comments would apply perfectly to that... I am an old litre bike rider, I got my first 4 valve GSX11 in 1980, and the big midrange is one of the things I love about large bikes. The XZ10R is a lot like riding a 600... It does go, but you need to be at about 10 for it to happen.
+Kneedragon1962 That the thing I loved about my FZ6 too. It was nice and calm as a pussy cat at low RPM. Great for riding around town or on a twisty road. If you decided to let it wander into the high RPM range that pussy cat became a roaring lion.
Is that really what you want in a liter bike? You would know if you’ve indeed been at it for those many years! Seems to me late 90’s early 2000 liter bikes had what I want in midrange. Your thoughts?
Fastest ?
Unfortunately even the gel seat for Aprilia is only marginally better. :( It upsets me as I can only ride for a little over an hour before needing a serious break.
+Adam Dean Really? I find it pretty good overall.
It kills my butt/lower back after just over an hour. I have made it almost 2 hours and I was dying. Lol After about 15 min break I was good again though
+Adam Dean i have the rsv4 rr and last sunday i was about 6hours street riding with small cigarette breaks and i wasnt tired at all. 1-2 hours and you are k.o.? it will be the same in any sport bike then...maybe go a bit on the gym and not mc donalds 😂
+perf86 I can assure you that's not the problem. I did hear they changed the seat up in 2016 though. I'm thinking that may be the fix.
Yeah I actually like the seat, it works in several different ways.
GO GREEN. The emperor of all bikes EVER. . . . .neither I remind anyone of , , , , aaaahh forget it. the list is tooooo long.
take the 3 cats out the zx10r exhaust and watch it fly stupid euro laws 😡😡
zx10 with a pipe makes 186
Why do the bikes in america have less horsepower compared to the rest of the world on the same fucking bike?
Kawasaki god
You forgot to put link to for a full review on your website. Sloppy copy/paste :)))))
Both bike look similar
Is he indonesian?
Last week end AFM race at buttonwillow... Joey Pascarella and Wiatt Farris destroy everybody on their stock zx10r!!! Where are the aprillias??? Lol!
I'm an amateur rider, when it comes to racing, I'd choose the zx10r over aprilla, when you race prep this beast.. for sure it will beat most of the competition.. I felt like they choose the rsv4 over the zx10r maybe because it's an italian made, it has a v4 config engine, they felt like more exotic than the zx10r...maybe..but the truth is the zx10r is as good as the rsv4 in any category..
Ugh. By the time I upgrade from the ninja 300 all the liter bikes will be idiot proof. infact now that these bikes are becoming more easy to ride the ninja 300, r3 and the cbr300r (yes the 26hp "dirt bike") will be the bike more easy to crash on! Heck the Yamaha r1m has live suspension adjustment now if you go into a corner to fast not only will the braking combined abs save your butt but the suspension stops diving that most people get from braking to hard! And you can't turn it off!!!
+Taijean Moodie No technology in this world will save a bad rider or unlucky rider from crashing. they are just there to help you go faster
+Afrorider Motovlogs Yeah But I mean if you break hard on these bikes they would help you unlike an non-abs r3 which you would crash! Basicly What I was saying is the liter bikes are becoming more easy to ride than say the fz6r or a non abs ninja 650 or even the cbr500r! The c mode on the r1 cuts the power on it so much that chase said on the first ride video it acted like a 600cc bike!
+Taijean Moodie The key to not lock your brake and crash is to never rely on your brakes 100%. Brake enough and swerve out of the way. experienced riders never lock their brakes because they don't jam on them expecting to stop. Don't brake on a bike like you do on a car.
You can turn the electronics off perfectly well! JUST DONT BUY THE BIKE. Problem solved. LOL
Nice
ninja ,,,, beast
GREENGANG
aprilia
ninja ❤
Kawasaki tutta la vita eppure sono italiano o panigale o ninja finito
*_TOP_*
And Tom lol
Low energy
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We get it, the rsv4 for those who don't know how to ride. :D
These young muppets dont know how to ride and use all the aids to make it safer, in case their mums get upset
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