Samson Arborplex, been climbing on that stuff for 30 years. Haven't had any issues yet. But of course I'm still using a taught line hitch and I'm not out west climbing Sequoias either.
Thanks for the great video.It can be,on going and fustrating trying to find that perfect rope for one's climbing system.This video can help narrow things down a bit.It can save you lots of time aswell as $$$.
Thanks for the explanation. I agree that 2-3% at 10% is a good thing...I'm not climbing competitively, just srt and occasionally ddrt. I've benefitted from the "bounce" on a number of occasions...also if in a 75' crotch with a basal anchor the "stop" after a free-fall is shared over 150' of rope. Looking forward to the new offering from Teufelberger... prob similar to voyager?
I agree dave..im vert new to srt...come from 90,s blakes and i currently use hitchclimber ,and hitchhiker xf...my favorites..drt...whats a great rope with some bounce but thicker ..like vortex hot..thinking of trying vortex sd dry .the vortex feels like rope knots excellent and is thicker 24 strand..however im 160 165 with gear on ..what do you recommend? Or do you recommend useing 2 lines accses and work line...i have yale focus, bluemoon, ivy,and petzl flow 11.6 all of wich are great but realy thin im going on 50 and wounded i like thicker ropes subtle ropes ??? Thanks dave
Hey there, passed your question on to Dave and he replied "Vortex would be fine if he wants a thicker rope, I would probably avoid the SD as it changes the characteristics of the rope quite a bit." Hope that helps! Feel free to reach out with any other questions.
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment so the regular vortex will be OK in wett smokey mountains conditions...I usually use focus or bluemoon but it's little thin ..to grip..I'm about 160 so ???
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment realy biggest or question since it's coated won't it be able to handle crotch friction better and or general abrasions is what I meant thanks apologize..out in feild worming in rain ☔
No worries, questions are great@@Sethhaun78 . The main benefit of the SamsonDry coating is going to be the lake of water uptake and reduced weight. I don't think Samson has published anything about it actually making the rope more durable.
Can you give me Name of the Best Rope for tree climbing and i need for my ZigZag to fit. Please and i can check on Ebay i wanna buy best rope for tree climbing and 150 ft And to fit for zigzag.
I am very new at this tree climbing hobby and I happen to buy 2 (150' each ) 16 straights ropes from a south Florida dealer. One is bright orange and black the other bright green and black. Do you happen to know who may had made ropes with these description?
Arbormaster Hawkeye is bright green and a darkish gray, but that's a fairly popular color scheme so no guarantee. We don't carry an orange and black 16 strand either, so its possible it was a brand we don't carry. I'm not familiar with all of the manufacturers unfortunately!
Normally in kernmantles you can find a smalll tape in the core of the rope with the rope information regarding rope manufacturer, model and year of manufacture. Take one end of the rope and split open a couple of inches and you will see it. Of course you will loose those couple of inches of rope in that end.
Excellent video, New guy seeking a quality rope dual purpose. Bought some 16s 1/2" on eBay, not good in the grigri2. Anyway I like my double Blake's hitches for now. New old guy climber. Starting with closed system! Srt maybe after some time. May try some training in Ohio. Thanks for sharing!
I’m looking on Ebay tree climbing Ropes and i find one 150ft 1/2 11/7mm. Because i need for my zigzag. Can you told me buddy what rope is great and best for zigzag fit and for tree climbing and 150 fr long. If you know which one is best send me here link on ebay or the names rope please
@@omarkosovali2381ok.first off pay attention to what he's saying ..Dave is experienced...second NEVER EVER I MEAN EVER BUY LIFE SUPPORT GEAR OR ROPE FROM EBAY OR ANY NONSENSE LIKE IT.,, order from wesspur or a real arborist supply company..that's pure insanity.theres dozens of ropes good for zigzag..specially with made splife eye to pass threw it..but not off ebay..don't do that
Hello, I am in Florida. I use a hitch pulley climber system and I'm always on a natural crotch. I've been using a true blue climbing line, is that okay? And which climbing line would you recommend?
I’ve seen you mention “burly” and “great in hand”....Google isn’t telling me anything in depth what that means. I’d assume burly=strong and great in hand = not so stiff?
Interesting video and thank for sharing! This is very good baseline tech info for people interested in tree climbing. Man if you guys are falling more than 5 ft below ancor on slack line, a fall arrest system would be a must surely? Damn sore falling without an active deceleration device. The rubbish harnesses we use in the oil industry (guys without rope access certs) will set a guy unconscious after 5 minutes hanging. It's a serious HSE concern. Nice info on stretch of ropes. Have any rope though plus a fall arrest system? Guess more expensive :0/
A fall above 3ft in a static line without fall arrest equipment or shock absorber could be fatal. Six feet is the maximum fall permitted by OSHA on a line, After ther shock loading ia so high it will destroy your spine.
Crow mussles are a popular trend these days I hear.... and I vote yes on that ballot! (Holy .... talk about eating crow... I would just to save this guy from his adieo bomb its giving)
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment I ordered the magazine about 3-weeks ago. I got a good bit of the basic stuff already, but I want the right rope for climbing. I bought a $40-120' rope off eBay, hahaha, not on my life. I did test it with a 200lb limb from the back yard. Good for tying down loads on trailer & etc. Practicing and studying in my backyard and my own trees. Thanks for your response!
@@JustJimJr So it sounds like you ordered your catalog right after we ran out of 2018s, unfortunately. Luckily, that means you should be automatically signed up for the 2019 when it is available. 🙂
Yeah, sorry, we did what we could to fix the audio, but it had a lot to say! If there are any questions we can answer by email, shoot them to weborders@wesspur.com. It's quieter over there. ;)
Yeah, it's hard to tune out, but it's mostly in the first few minutes. If you can get past that the information is solid. Trying to find a place without crows in Whatcom county to shoot outdoors... we would never get a video done! :D
This will forever be known as the crow video.
Wow, I’ve been production climbing a year and still learned a lot about my ropes and use, thank you Dave!
Glad it's helpful!
Dave is an excellent teacher . A Great speaker. I learned a bunch and am impressed with Dave's explanations. A+ Tutorial!!
answered a lot of questions and opened up a pandora's box of more questions!
Happy to forward your questions to Dave! Just let us know.
New England 16 strand safety blue hi vee,best climbing rope ever hands down!!
Man that fucking crow is pissed
Wow, lots of great info. Thank you.
Thank you, glad it is helpful! Stay safe.
Samson Arborplex, been climbing on that stuff for 30 years. Haven't had any issues yet. But of course I'm still using a taught line hitch and I'm not out west climbing Sequoias either.
New England safety blue for over 30 years,that stuff is so soft and thick..best rope ever for climbing!!
Thanks for the great video.It can be,on going and fustrating trying to find that perfect rope for one's climbing system.This video can help narrow things down a bit.It can save you lots of time aswell as $$$.
Thanks for the feedback, Ron! If you need more assistance you can always give us a call at 800-268-2141. Cheers,
Great video brother!!
Thanks for the explanation. I agree that 2-3% at 10% is a good thing...I'm not climbing competitively, just srt and occasionally ddrt. I've benefitted from the "bounce" on a number of occasions...also if in a 75' crotch with a basal anchor the "stop" after a free-fall is shared over 150' of rope. Looking forward to the new offering from Teufelberger... prob similar to voyager?
Next time let me know your doing this and I’ll climb the tree and shoot the look out crow lol thanks for the info
Appreciate it ;)
that damn bird
Synthwaveee
So should there be a different category for canopy ropes? And what would you recommend for canopy work above the access line?
Yesss, a static line but I also want protection if I fall...without being split in half
I agree dave..im vert new to srt...come from 90,s blakes and i currently use hitchclimber ,and hitchhiker xf...my favorites..drt...whats a great rope with some bounce but thicker ..like vortex hot..thinking of trying vortex sd dry .the vortex feels like rope knots excellent and is thicker 24 strand..however im 160 165 with gear on ..what do you recommend? Or do you recommend useing 2 lines accses and work line...i have yale focus, bluemoon, ivy,and petzl flow 11.6 all of wich are great but realy thin im going on 50 and wounded i like thicker ropes subtle ropes ??? Thanks dave
Hey there, passed your question on to Dave and he replied "Vortex would be fine if he wants a thicker rope, I would probably avoid the SD as it changes the characteristics of the rope quite a bit." Hope that helps! Feel free to reach out with any other questions.
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment so the regular vortex will be OK in wett smokey mountains conditions...I usually use focus or bluemoon but it's little thin ..to grip..I'm about 160 so ???
@@Sethhaun78 Should be just fine!
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment realy biggest or question since it's coated won't it be able to handle crotch friction better and or general abrasions is what I meant thanks apologize..out in feild worming in rain ☔
No worries, questions are great@@Sethhaun78 . The main benefit of the SamsonDry coating is going to be the lake of water uptake and reduced weight. I don't think Samson has published anything about it actually making the rope more durable.
Can you give me Name of the Best Rope for tree climbing and i need for my ZigZag to fit.
Please and i can check on Ebay i wanna buy best rope for tree climbing and 150 ft
And to fit for zigzag.
Businessman Owner blue moon
I am very new at this tree climbing hobby and I happen to buy 2 (150' each ) 16 straights ropes from a south Florida dealer. One is bright orange and black the other bright green and black. Do you happen to know who may had made ropes with these description?
Arbormaster Hawkeye is bright green and a darkish gray, but that's a fairly popular color scheme so no guarantee. We don't carry an orange and black 16 strand either, so its possible it was a brand we don't carry. I'm not familiar with all of the manufacturers unfortunately!
Normally in kernmantles you can find a smalll tape in the core of the rope with the rope information regarding rope manufacturer, model and year of manufacture. Take one end of the rope and split open a couple of inches and you will see it. Of course you will loose those couple of inches of rope in that end.
Does 16 strands SINGLE braid rope exist or all ropes over 12 strands are double braided?
Thanks for the information regarding rope construction and performance.
Excellent video, New guy seeking a quality rope dual purpose. Bought some 16s 1/2" on eBay, not good in the grigri2. Anyway I like my double Blake's hitches for now. New old guy climber. Starting with closed system! Srt maybe after some time. May try some training in Ohio. Thanks for sharing!
I've been having trouble deciding what to choose.i guess 1/2 is the main rope to use, I've been using 13mm rope cause it happen to fit my petzl zigzag
I love blue moon with my zigzag
maybe you already knew, but 13 mm is as close to 1/2 inch you can get, well its a wee-bit smaller (.5 in = 12.7 mm)
I’m looking on Ebay tree climbing Ropes and i find one 150ft 1/2 11/7mm.
Because i need for my zigzag.
Can you told me buddy what rope is great and best for zigzag fit and for tree climbing and 150 fr long.
If you know which one is best send me here link on ebay or the names rope please
Jon Quinn god help us...also blue moon is the exact same rope as every other 11.7mm 24 strand double braid from Yale.
@@omarkosovali2381ok.first off pay attention to what he's saying ..Dave is experienced...second NEVER EVER I MEAN EVER BUY LIFE SUPPORT GEAR OR ROPE FROM EBAY OR ANY NONSENSE LIKE IT.,, order from wesspur or a real arborist supply company..that's pure insanity.theres dozens of ropes good for zigzag..specially with made splife eye to pass threw it..but not off ebay..don't do that
Would like to talk to Dave concerning climbing equipment.
Hi Patrick,
You can get a hold of Dave by emailing niceguydave@wesspur.com or calling our office (800) 268-2141 and asking to speak to him.
Stay safe,
Hello, I am in Florida. I use a hitch pulley climber system and I'm always on a natural crotch. I've been using a true blue climbing line, is that okay? And which climbing line would you recommend?
I’ve seen you mention “burly” and “great in hand”....Google isn’t telling me anything in depth what that means. I’d assume burly=strong and great in hand = not so stiff?
Nevermind, you explain the “hand” @ the 5:20 and 6:40 mark
Mark 1.20... the dynamics pf stretching a sling shot .... I could see Chris Farley in this video.... 😭😭😭😭 im laughin so hard!
Alot of specs you could look up... but very little of WHY and WHICH to choose and why
Interesting video and thank for sharing! This is very good baseline tech info for people interested in tree climbing. Man if you guys are falling more than 5 ft below ancor on slack line, a fall arrest system would be a must surely? Damn sore falling without an active deceleration device. The rubbish harnesses we use in the oil industry (guys without rope access certs) will set a guy unconscious after 5 minutes hanging. It's a serious HSE concern. Nice info on stretch of ropes. Have any rope though plus a fall arrest system? Guess more expensive :0/
How much would a 6 foot fall hurt an static rope? Would it likely cause injuries?
Falling on any Arborist line 6ft would hurt- they're not meant to absorb fall damage.
A fall above 3ft in a static line without fall arrest equipment or shock absorber could be fatal. Six feet is the maximum fall permitted by OSHA on a line, After ther shock loading ia so high it will destroy your spine.
Crow mussles are a popular trend these days I hear.... and I vote yes on that ballot! (Holy .... talk about eating crow... I would just to save this guy from his adieo bomb its giving)
Krawwwww Krawwwww. Wait, what did you say?
Yeah, we did what we could on the audio. Sometimes nature has it's own plans.
Still waiting on my free magazine.🙈
Hey there, James! Did you order your catalog recently? We are out of 2018 catalogs and will be sending out 2019 catalogs in mid-March.
@@WesSpurTreeEquipment I ordered the magazine about 3-weeks ago. I got a good bit of the basic stuff already, but I want the right rope for climbing. I bought a $40-120' rope off eBay, hahaha, not on my life. I did test it with a 200lb limb from the back yard. Good for tying down loads on trailer & etc. Practicing and studying in my backyard and my own trees. Thanks for your response!
@@JustJimJr So it sounds like you ordered your catalog right after we ran out of 2018s, unfortunately. Luckily, that means you should be automatically signed up for the 2019 when it is available. 🙂
Enjoy you videos
Stay safe Nice Guy Dave
Birds 🐦
Yeah, that guy was really intent on speaking his mind. We're definitely more aware of that particular interference now!
Can't do the crow sorry
Yeah, sorry, we did what we could to fix the audio, but it had a lot to say!
If there are any questions we can answer by email, shoot them to weborders@wesspur.com. It's quieter over there. ;)
That bird behind is so anoying!
Dude i made it in 1 minute
Couldn’t focus because of the damn crow!
Yeah, sorry about that! Thankfully we've fixed our mic situation since this video.
Lmao, it’s all good I just had to search elsewhere
Love your audience, those Crows must have some babies in that tree?
Save a tree...kill a crow.... not really a good pitch on both aspects of this video.
Unwatchable
Get rid of the bird or move some where else. omg
Maybe you thought that would be a nice outdoorsy effect.... I think it sucks
Yeah, it's hard to tune out, but it's mostly in the first few minutes. If you can get past that the information is solid. Trying to find a place without crows in Whatcom county to shoot outdoors... we would never get a video done! :D
vid is unwatchable... why film with crows squawking
noted- we've since fixed our audio setup to specifically avoid situations like this