Union Pacific Big Boy
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Didn't think I could top the pacing footage from down south last month, but boy was I wrong. The crew decided to run the 4014 relatively hard on the last day of the Big Boy 2021 Tour, and with two diesels to hold her back with dynamic braking, they did just that (they picked up the 1989 in Denver; she would be power for the excursion consist back to Omaha from Cheyenne). The whole way north out of Greeley, the grade is 1.0% uphill and she's running with about half throttle and 35% reverse gear cutoff; the diesels are holding train speed to about 40 mph or so. It appears they've managed to patch the exhaust injector up enough to keep it from leaking too badly as well as there is barely any overflow water from the appliance in this video.
Made for a great finish to this 10 state, 4000 mile tour. Many thanks to the great men and women at the Union Pacific for putting on such a show for the public! Enjoy =)
Denver to Cheyenne trackside: • Union Pacific Big Boy ... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Other preceeding comments say it all. Two are working very hard at this delightful video and sound capture, the Driver and the Video Photographer. Love the pacing, and the absence of wind noise. So well done. Sure, sometimes the Loco falls behind and sometimes ahead of Pacing Automobile, but then come the clips where the Big Boy is nose to nose with camera, or nicely a bit to left or bit to right to fit in Engine and Tender …. incredible cab shots with Driver controlling that mass movement of rods, valve gear, and those unusual "bicycle chains" (wonder what they do!). Amazing Engineering. Thanks to Driver and Photographer. John, Brisbane, Australia. PS ... and we get to sit back and watch it!
The chain drives the forward automatic lubricator.
The chains drive some of the lubricators, mechanical linkage drives the other lubricators.
Never gets old. 4014 truly is a national treasure.
Các nước nghèo như Việt Nam mà họ cũng cho vào ban sắt vụn rồi, bây giờ vẫn dùng đầu máy hơi nước
True and I am appreciative to everyone involved to make it happen. I don't know who made the decision to save it from the cutting torch, without that decision we wouldn't even be talking about the 4014. Thank you to whoever made that call.
That is without doubt, the best pacing video I've ever seen. And it's my fav machine, and it's high def. Whew!! That's real engineering pornography!
I have a photo from Pomona about 1986 of me standing on that front porch beneath the bell, never imagining that this fire breathing dinosaur would someday ride the rails again as the greatest living steam locomotive in the world. She truly is a national treasure. Thank you, UP!
These are great videos and this was the best so far, loved the early 50's Pontiac starting at the 9:15 mark, added to the nostalgic effect
Great video. Awesome shots, you've done a great job of this and also for the entire tour, which I'm sure has been a fair commitment. Pacing-wise you really did save the best for last! One can see clearly from the stack emissions they were taking the opportunity to open it up a bit and see how well it handled a sustained effort. Probably the hardest they worked it continually to date, and it did so with ease. Thanks for posting from South Australia.
Awesome job of pacing and videoing especially given the traffic conditions. Your driver did an excellent job. Must must have been a real treat. Thanks for your work and for sharing.
Such a beautiful beast! Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱.
Great pacing with the 4014 Big Boy .You are really doing a fine job of getting the feeling of the steam locamotive at its finest .👍👍😊😊✌
Love it when they kick it up a notch. Almost seems alive.
She is alive.
Wow. All that engineering in motion. Pure poetry. Got a tear in my eye and a lump in my throat watching this. Would love to see this for real but I live in the UK. Great video!
Thank you for all the great videos of Big Boy! I wanted to go out west to see this in person but it just wasn't to be, so this is the next best thing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing all the videos. And the in depth information like the injector problems.
It’s areal thrill to see a million pounds moving with speed and grace
great pacing, lots of railfans, sunny skies and lots of hornblowing. This is a great video. Thanks.
I have only been able to see this majestic machine once in Glen Ellen in the suburbs of Chicago a experience I will never forget thank you for sharing these videos for everyone in the country to see
Wow, what a joy to watch. Now I think I need another Big Boy for the layout!
Very nice work! I’ve enjoyed watching all your 4014 videos.
Great videos. I have enjoyed what I think is all of them. Thanks for filming.
Nice that people got to hear what a working Big Boy really sounds like!
Wow man, I said it in another of your video's, this is another master piece! Following the loco at all cost, overtaking cars, etc, is exactly what I'd do. I LOVE IT!!! And I get massive goosebumps every time he blows that gigantic whisle, the sheer volume is incredible! Awesome footage, sharp, steady, great sound!! For me the highlight part of this video is from 10:00 till 13:00, the echo's of the whistle between the buildings is breathtaking! :D
Big Boy to me is the eight wonder of the world. Engineers must be having fun running this engine it must also be a great deal of work. Thanks so much for this video I enjoyed watching
They are very labor intensive. A big part of the reason they were replaced by the diesels.
Thanks for capturing this beauty. 💯
WOW really enjoy this video. I replay over and over great cam views.
11:42 That reverb almost makes it sound like there was another Big Boy answering 4014's whistle.
Outstanding!! Why sit and watch when you can pace? Magnificent!!! The sound is great. We caught her in STL. My bucket had run over!
Very nice! You got some unique perspectives such as the road closing distance with track as you approach the overpass. Interesting about the dynamic braking. It does make sense that if the diesels hadn't engaged dynamic brakes the 4014 would be hardly working with the short train on that level (level to the eye at least) stretch of track.
Great pacing video. Thanks for uploading! I'm sure I'll be giving this lots of play time.
This is like the best footage ever.
Great video and fantastic driving!
I lived in Greeley at the time and went to see this. Really cool to see a full video of it!
Great video! Thanks for posting. Also for the specs!
Outstanding video. Thanks.
Really great chase! Thanks for sharing that.
You've had a great series of videos on 4014.
Nice to see the exhaust plume stand up a bit instead of laying down. Would be interesting to see some cab video of this portion of the trip.
This has been a joy for me to watch. I grew up 1/4 mile from a railroad track that was busy during the week and semi busy on weekends. It ran from Toledo OH thru Sylvania, Berkey, Metamora, Morenci Michigan then split North to Adrian and Hudson Mich Northward and West to either Fort Wayne, Indiana or Angola or both. I truly miss the sounds of the train and whistles! Unfortunately one of my brother's friend. Hit one of the early morning trains going home. He lived less than 250 yrds on the other side. He was a good person. Devastated the town. Could you put all of the video's up from the beginning? I would love to watch them again!
Truly a beautiful beast.
GORGEOUS STEAM LOCOMOTIVE!
Great video by the way.
was standing trackside, you can see me about 2 mins in, wanted to take it all in, incredible machine. the traffic following this was ridiculous
We were fortunate to drive from Indianapolis to Chester IL and then on to St Louis. Stood within 10 ft of this locomotive. After we stopped at Chester (home of Popeye) there is a wonderful trestle and we got photos of 4014, but these crazy folk were standing ON THE TRACK which is trespassing. There was an official there who walked the trestle from end to end and no one would move. It was insane. Ed Dickens is very clear on the safest way to see the locomotive. This pacing video is really one of the best!!! And that classic car is very cool. And this is a 2-lane highway. I woulda had a cow!!!
Getting to chase the 4014 from North Little Rock, AR to St. Louis, MO was one of the best weekends of my life. I've known about big steam for awhile, I've researched and studied it a bunch, but the 4014 was in all actuality the first big steam locomotive I've seen run. There's nothing like it, it's an experience all to it's own. Hopefully the 844 comes back through Arkansas sometime in the future. I'm kinda getting the feeling that the next steam locomotive I'll get to see run is the CP 2816, providing of course that everything works out with the merger between them and the KCS, and providing they do the run with it they are saying they will do.
The splendid rythmic sound takes me to my childhood.
Well Done, Fan Railer. Sometimes I wonder how all that machinery stays connected.
With very big nuts and bolts. LOL.
Love the sound of big boys whistle
And that is the engines soul.
I wish I could see it in person. Smell the smoke as it passes...feel the ground rumble....but I'm in Michigan
Big boy rocks!
always 😃 watching u Big 👦
I guessed that the diesels were holding the Big Boy with dynamic brakes and I just saw that in the description. It sure sounds nice when the engine works harder but I'm waiting for the day when UP decides to couple a revenue freight train to the Big Boy just like they did to the Challenger and let the double stack do the talk.
Hey, if someone with enough money ponies up, it might just be a possibility.
The diesel would not be in dynamic braking while they are running.
Untrue. They literally use dynamic braking to control train speed. The number of times I've heard Ed over the radio telling the diesel to hold them to 30, 40, or 45 mph with the dynamics is more than I can count on my hands.
Fan Railer Controlling the train speed is why dynamic are installed on diesels. But I doubt very seriously they work the big boy against the dynamics unless they are slowing for a slow order or descending a grade. You are probably misunderstanding what you are hearing.
@@billmorris2613 Leaving Denver a few hours before this video, Ed said over the radio to the 4015 engineer "Hold me at 45 mph, and let me know if you get up to dynamic 6 or higher". There's not really much to misunderstand. What you don't realize is that they WANT TO WORK the 4014. If they had the money and the resources and if UP brass would let them, they'd run the thing in service with 4000+ tons behind the drawbar. The run from Denver to Cheyenne is not a long one, so in an effort to get to Cheyenne with the least amount of fuel remaining in the tender, they were using the diesels to create an artificial load so they could go through more oil.
I take it the unusual series of horn blasts at 25:09 were people too close to the tracks? I feel bad for Ed trying to keep everyone safe while driving the beast. I understand the fanfare for the 4014 people need to use their heads while viewing it.
Yea that's correct.
What a beast!
This just show’s what man can build
Grew up in the '50s in Laramie, Wyoming, these bad boys and their brothers came through town on a regular basis. Not a big deal, just working engines doing what they were designed to do. Maybe if I was smarter then I would have paid more attention and saw how kool they really were back then.
As I remember the biggest thing back them was the amount of cinders that covered and drifted through out the downtown streets, seems like someone was always bitching about them.
Super! Nice video!
And my goodness can Ed play that horn!
Haha I’m the guy in the blue big boy shirt and the sunglasses running to the car. Can’t believe I got in the video good video my friend!
The pinnacle of steam tech.
Thanks for the great video. It is my belief the 4014 would be better served to let it work harder. That locomotive was build to pull, so pull it must.
And very cool with all the silos. Am I bugging you yet?
Check out the mid 50s (I think) green Pontiac (or Oldsmobubble) at 9:40.
I was wondering if anyone was gonna catch that.
It is a Pontiac. The badges, hood ornament, and chrome are consistent with the 1953 Pontiac Chieftain Sedan trim package. It even has the original Pontiac wheel covers.
THAT SOUND!!!!!! OH MY GOD!
She is so graceful that you dont realize how big she is until she passes those 1200 sq ft buildings
Absolutely gorgeous machine. I love watching him run and and the whistle gets right down in your gut. Awesome.
In the days of steam Bigboy may have been at peak of the K.I.S.S. principle, but as a current day heavy truck mechanic, it doesn't make it. The maintenance, is I believe, the main reason why diesels took over from steam. 🥺 It's sad because diesels don't have the soul but steam isn't practical for many reasons (most of which concern the bottom line).
Yup. When diesel took over, a LOT of shop workers lost their jobs =(
@@FanRailer yea ,the worst diesel electric probably takes less maintenance than the best steam locomotive ever built 😟
@@cbmech2563 If steam had been given an additional 10-15 years, maybe they could have gotten close. The last modern steamers built came with roller bearing rods, which eliminated the need to stop every 150 miles or so to grease the rod bushings. A few roads like the New York Central were using track pans to pick up water, so the coal space could be enlarged to enormous proportions. The large PT tenders could hold 46 tons of coal and 18,000 gallons of water, meaning they could make it from NYC to Chicago with only one coal stop. Poppet valve gear was just in its infancy when steam died, but given enough time, it could have been developed to a point where the efficiency numbers could have rivaled diesel. Ultimately, the only remaining heavy maintenance items left for steam would really have been the class 4 and 5 overhauls, which involved tearing the boiler down to replace the flues and tubes along with renewing most of the rest of the locomotive, but as far as I know, diesels need a top deck overhaul at pre-set intervals, so it's comparable there.
@@FanRailer possibly comparable except that you can have an engine and alternator sitting there waiting to swap out and be back hauling freight in a week or two
@@FanRailer greased roller bearings would be good, but truck axles made a big step in reliability when they went oil bath front and rear. Not sure how you could do it in this application 🤔
WOW, just WOW!
I love 4014
I think bigboy and fan railer should share first place podium spots as they are both at the top of their class.
awesome footage! @12:30 and @12:42 where those "get the hell away from the tracks" kind of blows?
Yes they were. I tried to pan ahead slightly to see if you could see the offending parties, but no joy.
Got to blow that last little bit of carbon before putting her up for the winter.
Brasil -Obrigado por esse filme.(Luiz Antonio)
I love the sound of steam engine.
Great steam locomotive!
It’s funny because I’m pretty sure I’m one of the cars following behind you lol 😂😂
My brother and I parked near 4014 in Pomona fair grounds for years, watching NHRA drags ,got yelled at for getting to close It is geat to see it rolling
It is truly a giant
Great! Thanks for the clip! Can Big Boy accelerate to 80 miles per hour?
It is designed to, but they'll never do it for a number of different reasons. The highest recorded speed ever achieved by one of these behemoths was 72 mph.
The whistle at 1040 is the Mayor of Cheyenne pulling on the whistle cord
Haha when I heard that, I figured that this was the case. No crossing in sight, and the whistle style was definitely not Ed's lol
😎 cool video
I love this I'd give anything to ride one
Now that we call is American muscle.
Yes, American muscle is live and well, much more so before.
4014 picks up speed.
I noticed that at the start of this video, the connecting rods (dont know the terminology) attached to the driving wheels are out of sync, but gradually transition to in sync, then out of sync again. Means that RPM of front and back sets of driving wheels are different. Curious.
It’s really due to wheel slip that happens over time I know this
Nice
What's 4014 going to do once the tour is over? Are they gonna haul real stuff with her? And why would they hold her back with diesels?
They used the dynamic brakes on the diesel/s to slow down for slow orders or descending grades, verses braking using the train brakes.
Look closely at the footplate from 2:13 to 2:26. Clear frustration at one individual too close to the track..the guy in the check shirt.
Why do the 4 wheels on the front bogie look like they’re not moving at all
is bigboy 4014 doing all the work or is the diesels helping out
In the description he says that the diesels were putting load on the big boy by using the dynamic brakes
The diesels would not be needed to pull that train, unless something happened to the 4014 to disable it. The Big Boys pulled 3500 tons over those big mountains without helpers. The dynamic brakes on the diesels were used to slow, stop, or descending grades instead of using the train brakes. That saved thousands of dollars in fuel, water, and wear and tear on the brakes. Plus it is quieter for the passengers than using the breaks.
What was the top speed it was cruising at?
AAA+ 👍👍👍
Was the defect detector calling the cylinders hot boxes @ ~6:30?
Yup lol. They've triggered every defect detector they've rolled over. Axle 2 for all the steam related appliances at the front end (cylinders, compressors, exhaust steam passages), and axle 10 at times because that's about where the oil burner is mounted.
At 6:11 you can see an Audi RS e-tron gt that was being used by car and driver magazine for some tests I just found the article today
To clarify they wanted to know if it was possible to chase the past with the future and that was proven to be right. They went to Cheyenne and back. Search Audi RS e-tron chases Union Pacific 4014 and it should be the first link you find.
that's actually really cool lol
@@FanRailer I might as well add they also did an interview with Ed if you didn’t see it already.
I wish I had been born down in the USA, I love those old trains and we don't any of them up here Canada or as I call it new china
i wonder why they dont highball it as much as the other locos, always seems to be running fairly slow
Ed Dickenson said because they dont want to break it. Its mostly for show.
Was the boiler coverted into a oil burner?
Yes
When and why did they pick up another diesel locomotive?
read the description.
Why do they need to hold t back with dynamic braking?
As he said in the description, to work the engine harder.
hondarideralex He may have said that in the description, but that makes no sense. I’m a retired UP road engineer and also steam qualified. They were using the dynamics to slow down for slow orders or when descending grades. You would need to understand train handling. Without the diesels and their dynamic brakes the Big Boy would have to pull the train to a lower speed, stop, or down a grade. Using the dynamics saves thousands of dollars in fuel, water, and wear and tear on the train brakes. It is also quieter for the passengers on the train.
@@billmorris2613 Ed has talked about his several times. If i recall correctly, part of it is the balance of the firing vs the load. if he made adjustments every time the grade changed to maintain speed the fireman's adjustments reducing fuel and adding fuel ultimately used more fuel than having the diesel apply some dynamic brake to keep the consist from over speeding. in this situation, they specifically said they were going to work it harder on the relatively short trip and burn off excess fuel in the tender so they did not have to handle as much when they got back to Cheyanne. The OP said that on the radio, he told the diesel engineer piloting the two diesels, to hold him at 40 and let him know if they get to notch 6 in dynamic. Lets be honest about the passengers noise level, 1, no passengers other than steam crew i believe, two, it is a steam excursion train, I want to here it. that is the point, if i didn't want to hear it, i would take amtrak. lol. Let him put a load on it. that passenger train doesn't hardly load that thing down. be happy she is stack talking can actually take a little load.
Almost as good as being there. 😍
About 2 minutes and 10 seconds into your video you see my friend and his vehicle while I was shooting my video on my other channel
Who is a-shoveling coal?
No one... she burns oil now.
Would have been cool if u at least stopped once to film the rest of the train and all the cars it was haulin'. Just saying...
Would have been cool if u at least stopped once to read the description before writing this comment. Just saying...
@@FanRailer if he stopped he would be hosed, i saw you filming at eaton, my clutch was blown since sunday, what phone do you have?