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- The TM Solid TMDR by Vargus Tooling removes the need for pre-drilling holes, saving customers time and money.
These tools also work on components with pre-drilled holes, such as blind holes, through holes, and even semi-finished holes
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This tool is the TM Solid TDMR treadmill from Vargus..
www.vargusuk.co.uk/Vargus/Templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=84&FID=2113
What's the back ground music please 👍
😅
@@bob85099 yes i am instrumental version, zach sorgen, the wildcardz
Only for alluminum material used and metric and pt tapping
Whats the song you used called buddy?
I know it's definitely not the case, but I can't help but imagine someone in their home garage trying to turn the handle on the drill press with one hand and shimmy the sheet steel with the other, then swearing when it doesn't quite work as they imagined.
lmfaoo "it took him about 3 seconds for each rotation so ill just rotate the plate that fast, should be good"
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@@chiphill4856 Ever heard of a joke buddy?
Who needs a drill press? Just whip out the old handheld black and decker and free hand it
@@miketyson1717😂
Would like to see it mill a actual threaded hole without chip fouling. Half holes are easy as the worked material is free to be expelled from the work piece
Just glue togheter 2 halves :^)
@@hortler😂
Я тоже подумал о выходе стружки. Думаю туда нужно подавать воздух.
I was just looking for a comment like yours. Would be nice to see the tool not spinning, so we get an idea of what the flutes look like.
I use these and a similar tool from guhring daily and I had the same thought the first time I saw it. We now use them exclusively. Aluminum to inco 5962. We even use them down to 4-40 in inconel. We can get over 40 holes from a 4-40 in inco 5663. Awesome tools
The new guy is still going to chase it out with the wrong tap in assembly.
😂😂 too good
Like a ford triton.
@@user-gg2ty5tk8k And go to the strip club just to collect your thought do you don't take a sledge hammer to the aluminum engine block.
If assembly needs taps, the machine shop isn't doing their job right. Assemble can have an air line and some pipe cleaners lol
@@user-gg2ty5tk8k The Emperor protects.... the parts
I could definitely do this with my Ryobi drill hand held for sure
Doubt
Yeah it’s not hard it’s my go to
When pigs fly 🐖 🦅
Would still be three tools, the bit, the drill, and you. Badumtsss...
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What a time to be a machinist. Whoa.
the tool is easy to make with a lathe and angle grinder
the toolpath has been possible since 1850
why is it not common? blame Big Tap and Die
@@petedude2lu3There is def more going on then just "a lathe and a angle grinder" my man.
Those Mills have been on the market for over 10 years now... I used to work with the Hitachi/Moldino EDT line when I was a machinist
these also cut hardened steel above 60hrc, its pretty cool
@@petedude2lu3I hope this is sarcasm
I thought these things only existed on the projector screen at a mazak training course 😂
This is a Vargus tool.
@@poultryguy12ableits actually significantly more impressive that they cut it that way but whatever floats your shit talking boat
The beauty and joys of CNC.
@@yeahright5227and lasers
@@MTDCNCcould you link the tool please? Very interested
Very cool. For brass and aluminum.
Have seen similar tool dive nicely in to 60 HRC D2 tool steel
@@JaakkoFwas that video by Adam the machinists by chance? I saw him do this in tool steel with no coolant
I’ve ran them in 17-4 h900 just fine
@@reidb9422 and it plunged just fine huh? Or was the hole already there.
No it’s not cool they forgot the coolant
Finally, my dream of a non-circular threaded hole can be realized
Who cares if your hole is a little egg shaped, or if your bit starts binding from not being able to pass chips out? Atleast you dont have to change from a bit to a tap!
Just need a transporter to install the bolt.
It's moving in a circle wise guy.
its moving in a circular pattern. Not just side to side.
This guy's ahead in technology
I use a Walter mill to do this in inconel 718. so far it does a couple of hundreds of threads with a 6H tolerance before it needs any compensation or change of tool.
is that good does not seem like much.
@@Chris-cz6hninconel is not fun to machine
What’s your tolerance for hole locations though?
@@3rd_Eye_Culture in millimeters its 0.2 pos tol.
Hundreds??? In Inconel??? 🤔
The end with chamfer nailed it.
nah I think it screwed it homedawg
Both of you nah. Bolted it
A really simple but effective tool.
@@ohmahfoot3995Cut it out
What is the ordering information for this tool?
I love machining -theres just something satisfying about it
I’ve been doing it over 20 years and the only thing that keeps me doing it is all the side projects I do. Other than that I’m burned out working for someone else.
"What tooling did you run?" They ask as the bass line from "I Ran" begins to play.
I walked along the avenue
@@codiserville593
"I never thought I'd meet a girl like you uu!"
"Meet a girl like you uu!"
Vargus
I could watch this all day.
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How well does it evacuate chips without thru coolant
Well since half the hole is gone I'd say quite well🤣
@@quweefs Awsome handle 🤣 I bet they bust because of the heavy relief needed to helic at that crazy of an angle
For a demo with half the material ... missing? 😂 You'd still need it for a "real" job...
@@jamessmith1190MY HANDLE IS BETTER!!!!!
The bit is hollow and it blows compressed air, and because the bit is only 3/4 the diameter of the hole being cut it just blows out
🤷 (I just made this up)
Threadmills are the shit. No more broken taps 💪🏻
Now that takes a steady hand.
I had similar tool to mill m10 in heated toolsteal 65hrc was impressive to see and was very stabel prozess, the helix needs to be the same as pitch from the screw. And the tool is left trunning if i remember correctly. And yes no pre drilled hole was needed.
Какая прелесть...Мой трудовик сошёл бы с ума, от восторга.
Interpolation cutting is nice and easy when you know what you are doing. Have seen many machinist not have a clue as to how to program this type of cutting. The nice thing about this tool is that it is doing the threading as well.
Болшэва : диаметра чем сам ..
😅😢😂
Back in time when I saw a student use a drill to mill lol.
lol
Wow , thanks for sharing bro. This is the first time I see this working
Wow that's really smart. Not what I was thinking the design would be!
I like the beat you added..
Saw this at IMTS last year, was cool then, still cool now
Billion dollar product
Who makes it?
@@jonathonwood4088 I don't know who made it sadly
@@jonathonwood4088 It might be Harvey tools that makes it
Maybe you should start it and pls also create some way to use it without owning a cnc @@jonathonwood4088
Well that's cool and all, but it only drilled half a hole.
I'm hypnotized, this has perfect music and the bit goes in it's own footsteps without a single tiny hitch.
This is awesome. Plus you can double your bolts by cutting them in half lol
Brilliant idea.
This could save an unbelievable amount of time in the right setting. Saving 2 tool changes, and the issue with breaking taps. Also you only need to buy 1 tool compared to multiple. WIN WIN WIN! Amazing idea!
I would say it depends on the size of the thread, and the material. For me it seems quite slow (if smaller than M12 thread). And who knows if the Price of this particular tool isnt more than the 3 normally used tools, and How long it Can last 😊 but very interesting Indeed
One tool that's twice as complex.
It saves time only with a low hole count. For many holes the tool change time doesn't matter any more because you can do the operations for all holes with a single tool change
That is the reason we are starting to see lots of these tools. You also take up less space in the tool changer.
@@MTDCNC not to mention if your machine doesn't have a tool changer, it can do more work with one button push.
這工藝厲害啊，寫進刀位超燒腦
Super cool to see this. Always wondered what the the inside holes of the wobbly arbors looked like.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow. That takes a steady hand. Very impressive.
A steady hand?
@@georgejackson4790 to press the green button =)
j.k. maybe he thinks it's a manual? who knows...
@@zrakodelocoit could be a joke. I wouldn't know.
Riiiiiiiiight...🤔😒
I think I could do it!
Yep, that’s thread milling.
But thread milling with center cutting! My thread mill doesn't plunge cut...
@@nicgili ok…you can buy them.
@@ckane510 link? If the are in my budget I totally will.
@@nicgili that same phone/computer in your hand has all the power to do your own research.
@@MonkeyNoHands Im asking ckane, not you. But thanks anyways.
That’s great for making threads for sizes that don’t exist
...or for multiple threads in the same hole. Still, I'd rather drill first.
Have watched many machining videos but never saw a bit like this on a CNC machine. Pretty cool👍🙂
I would like to see how good it does in solid material, most people are not drilling/ tapping into the edge of material.
Thread milling is not new…. I have been doing it for years i just did some 1.25-7 threads in 1-1/2 plate a couple of days ago did 50 holes with the same thread mill
@@H3lzsn1p3rYes thread milling is old tech, but I'll bet my whole paycheck you drilled it first. I'd love to see this tool stopped. Either it had through spindle coolant, spiral flute, or its not going to work for chip evacuation.
I work with HMC's, and even those are going to struggle unless there is through spindle coolant capability.
We have seen these in solid material many times.
@@MTDCNC
Make a video about it. Not only solid material but heat treated steel, or 316 stainless. Lets see a video without drilling a hole in it.
@@MTDCNC you a whole bot, get outta here
I'll pray for those bearings !
Lol Nice tool
Incredible! Now imagine series production of replaceable cogwheels, connected to other detail by bolts, screwed between two details!
I always wondered how threads were drilled. I always thought "surely it doesn't just spin in the middle and bore fast enough that it leaves a corkscrew behind right?" This way makes much more sense
With one tool...a precision cnc milling machine that costs a small fortune.
What are you on about?
i mean if my whole business model is tapping threads, this is a game changer.
The chamfer wasn't that clean, but other than that,
Cool tool!
Made me feel wobbly watching that
The bevel at the end was chef's kiss.
Having the 2 cutting heads leaves you with only 1 thread pitch. Could removing the 1 so you can mill in different thread sizes.
but how would they sell an entire set in that case?
For those not in the know, this wouldn’t work. They are cutting a cross section all the while drowning the tool in air. You can see chips building up behind the tool before it disengages a cut. It is a neat idea but as a machinist I call BS.
This is the fastening system used by Stockton Rush...half a hole, half a thread, half a bolt and wood glue.
I had to use one of these in for something like a blind 2mm hole, it was certainly an interesting thing to see
Now show it without the cutaway
Do you mean a solid block of material?
No, I think he means without space for the chips to get out.
Might work in alumin or brass.
@@JamesValentineKohera There is plenty of space for chips to evacuate, about 1/3-1/2 of the tool diameter.
@@JaakkoF but there is no helix to pull the chips out. Without spindle thru coolant or some other method of evacuation it will get messy as the depth increases
Drafting in military be like.
Chills. Literal chills. It’s so unfortunate that Schallt is no longer with us.
Used them, they're awesome time savers, one tool instead of three, and fit adjustable.
So smooth. So buttery smooth.
Awesome tool if you need 1/2 a hole.
This must be the best way to thread and make a hole.
No problem for CNC.
As an HVAC tech, this got me moist. Ordering one now.
well done
That's pretty slick. Better than a tap; Good way to get a blind threaded hole a bolt can reach the bottom of
im no machinist but i think theres a reason that you would normally use three tools for that
So many people need to see this
This is actually how my drill wobbles anyways
"With one tool!"
*Proceeds to put the one tool in a multi ten thousand dollar mill.*
Now my bolt won’t stay!
Grate tip
I didn’t realize it was that easy to make screw thread holes!
yep
That's an amazing tool.
That's a heck of a steady hand
yep
Just make sure you have the best control ever
it works well
Great. Now I know how to thread my barrels!
i will show this video to my boss.
Hell yes I used to work in a shop that sharpened tooling this makes it simple ❤❤
Thats beautiful. So simple, how did they not think of this earlier?
beautiful isn't it
I’d be constantly worried that it went slack somewhere along the course
This is the drill bit used to build the structures of ancient Egypt
A machine has to do it. That amount of precision. I could definitely see me screwing it up
This is why cnc is awesome
I use to run a Datron cnc and we used something similar on aluminum.
Guess they could call it... the Hole Wizard lol
If it's got a thru spindle coolant port for chip evacuation, this could be amazing for blind holes... Especially holes where the thread depth is close to the total depth.
We agree.
You just order a tap with less lead-in.
all those holes I drilled, chamfered and tapped over 50 years !
That was majestic
thanks
That is very satisfactory to watch.
When it was done, I blew my screen off
Good ole thread milling!
Anyone have a link to where you can get these?
What country Bill?
@@MTDCNC USA
Wow. So, these machines eliminate the need for pilot holes in the billet. Me and my tap and die set are jealous.
lol, tap and die set ;-)
I almost had to put safety glasses on, while watching this video.
lol
Genius!
That's amazing it's putting the threads in there
yep
This would be perfect for applications like this when you have a hole that needs to be tapped that has a side cut out.
yep for sure
When this tool can make a higbee as well, then I'll be impressed.
Looks like it works well making half of a hole on the edge, how does it do in the middle where the chips can't exit as easily being surrounded completely by metal?
There was a water dripping sound when I was watching the video which I found odd, but very fitting and calming...
...then I realized I left my faucet halfway on
Sandblasting your demo billet really shows nice contrast in the cut piece.
I was actually wondering how this was done. For some reason the question woke me up last night.
really!! lol, sorry
So satisfying!
that looks unreal
I want to try this so much
Some ppl swear by it, I just swear at it.
That's pretty neat
Chamfer is an edge that connects 2 surfaces @ 45° angles.
This is amazing
yep