I agree more with Koshore that China would raise peacefully but if provoked by external forces, it would react prudently and not be humiliated as in the past. China is well known for not interfering internal politics of other nations and wouldn't seek to dominate the Asia region At the same time, it wouldn't keep quiet if US seek to dominate the region. Economically I believe China can win as well as in other areas. US would be pulled back by its uncontrollable foreign debts.
@@TerrySalahatliterally every country in SC sea have territorial disputes with each other and overwhelming majority have learned to coexist peacefully with each other. Only US puppets like Bong Bong Marcos go out of its way to provoke the status quo.
@@TerrySalahatWell, certainly like most countries on earth, China has disputes with its neighbours, near and far, on borders, trades, technology, security, etc, etc, but there is no hot war that involved/involves China in the past 45 years. China is busy developing itself and build defence capabilities for itself.
On question 1, I think John M is wrong because he does not understand Chinese people and China's history. Former foreign minister of Spore, George Yeo gives a very convincing answer to why China will not want to dominate Asia militarily.
Kishore is likely the one to be correct than John. If it is John, then Taiwan would be returned to China much earlier, and the Philippines would be facing real cannons and not water cannons........
John M just shows how the Western mentality is working. He sees China purely from the eyes of Western mindset, while Mr. Kishore M being an Asian understands China pretty well. Also, question no. 1 sounds ridiculous and an understatement at best. China has been rising, it's out of the question, without wasting a single bullet!
1. The heated debate on the possibility of China overtaking the USA is basically immaterial. 2. China is not concerned about the various comments and radical criticism from outside world. China mainly focuses on the long-term strategy and pragmatic approaches so as to achieve the overall good results , including the improvement of ecosystem , minimization of desert areas , advancement of space exploration , uplifting the welfare of its 56 ethnic groups , greenery of the whole country , implementation of the principles of mutual respect , mutual prosperity and peaceful coexistence for the whole world , etc. 3. China firmly upholds and implements its motto : EMPTY TALKS RUIN COUNTRY ; SMART AND HARD WORK PROSPER NATION ( 空谈误国 ，实干兴邦 ）.
As a Chinese person, I feel that my country is not interested in managing or dominating other countries. What we are concerned about is protecting our own interests in terms of economy and security
On basis of China's historical records, China will rise peacefully unlike the USA that has a history of peace for only 16 years out of 250 years. Whereas China has not fired a single bullets in four decades despite all the ups and downs in the border conflict as well. You may not agree with me but this is how you perceive and how and where you have been raised influence our thoughts. The USA may have dealt with German, Japan and Soviet Union effectively, but China is different this time on basis of its largest trade with the world communities and they would take century of humiliation as guiding force to take their country forward.
A bully can not and will not let anyone to become bigger and badder than him without a fight and resounding defeat, that's the core reason why China may not be rising peacefully. For the bully even if the new guy means no ill, he'd still be afraid of those who used to be bullied by him.
I agree with you. The only way that America will allow China to rise peacefully is if China can show that it has the greater military might than America. America then has no choice but to sit by and see China rise peacefully.
I agree more with Kishore that China would rise peacefully but if provoked , it would react and not be humiliated again this time, unlike in the past. China is known for not interfering in internal politics of other nations and thus wouldn't seek to dominate the Asia region.John basis of his conclusion does not match with the reality but seems rather biased, hmmmm
Funny how Westerners refuse to accept that Zheng He discovered and mapped many nations from India to Africa and may even have visited North America half a century before Columbus. The Chinese never made sovereign claims over any of these. Meanwhile an Italian mercenary expedition financed by Spain sails three little ships to North America and now claims to own the entire continent (after genociding the natives out of existence).
Of course, China can rise peacefully. China never conquered and colonized far away lands and islands around the world. Professor John M. Is completely wrong while Professor Kishore M. is completely right because he has knowledge of China's history.
I FULLY agree with Prof Kishore. John is speaking from a Western mindset of capitalism, who thinks that such shall be there forever, despite the evidence that everything is transient.
With due respect to Prof Mearsheimer who I admire greatly for his principled stance on the Palestinian rights issue, I believe he is very off base on this one. To compare America's former potential rivals (Imperial/Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Soviet Union) to the massive size and economic dynamism that is China that has seen no equal since the rise of America itself after WWII should not be underestimated. Over the decades since the fall of Berlin and USSR, America has not only lost its economic vitality but now increasingly its cultural and diplomatic influence. With the exception of several client state lapdogs, who in the global community genuinely want the US to lead the world as its policeman? In particular when it has proven again and again the hypocritical farce of its own professed "rules based int'l order"? The world is changing fast, and the world has options other than this outdated leviathan.
Totally AGREE with Kishore.. Always look at HISTORY. Both China and Russia NEVER HAVE STARTED AN AGGRESSIVE WAR TO DOMINATE, while the US has started dozens of war and interestingly ALWAYS lost. China already the Top Economy and Russia the Top Military nation, Ukrainian war is proving that..
@@JustJamesDeanWho will allow?? Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha.. And, what laws?? Western-rule based international order?? Well, ... Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha..
John belongs to the old school who still cannot shake off his old outdated paradigms. While Kishore is a pragmatist with sharp eyes to the future. The reality US's a permanently warring but bankrupt entity while China keeps building relationship and is awash with great wealth. Militarily, China has tried & tested a working hypersonic glide vehicles that once launched has no known defence. US has none. But in a nuclear war scenario, both will go extinct nobody wins. ❤from indonesia.
The US won WW2 by sheer industrial might. That sheer industrial might of the US is well and truly a thing of the past whilst it is China now who possess that sheer industrial might.
mearsheimer is american, they will never accept that american will lose, economically and culturally, china has 4000 years of civilisation, 700 milion chinese are no longer living innpoverty but are middle income consumers, while americans are the opposite ✌️
I wonder if Mearsheimer has studied (not just read) the 'Art of War' section on governance. Chinese have learn through decades of war that destroying your enemy (or competitor) is not desirable b/c you are left with MORE issues to undertake and resolve; it is not about the war itself but rather the consequences for the victor!. If you are not able to govern yourself (due to unmanageable bureaucracy), it makes no sense to conquer anything b/c you are adding more responsibilities. The western approach is to just pass it off (in righteous voice: let them choose), will fail b/c they will resort back to how they are naturally. You have to full take on and fully assimilate the people as your own - only then can you say you truly won. China knows this too well and has NO desire for more bureaucracy and take on other people's problems. Also, if you are the regional superpower, of course neighboring nations WILL naturally gravitate towards you and take on influences. Similar to wanting to hangout with the cool kids and picking up good and bad habits. This does not mean China is pushing their agenda. Think of China as the equivalent of the EU, it is much more than just 1 country. Unlike the EU, China is trying to unite everyone into a central governance model, which they have evolved.
It is unfortunate that Professor Mearsheimer has not understood Chinese logic and thinking which is essentially grounded in Confucius thoughts. As Mahbuhani repeated state that China even during her period of economic, political dominance never once tried to invade, conquer other countries. Westerners concept, logic is so different than Chinese. Our good professor logic is inevitably a Western concept which misunderstood China. I have high regards for both. As a Chinese, and have been to China, have relatives, business partners, I know how majority of the Chinese think. A Caveat : If we from the West keep provoking China, this would be a different story.
1st of all, it’s MOST appropriate to remove the word “win, won or lose”! Cause this wordings are just a very one sided, very very narrow views (rigid mindedness, stereotype mindset) from the west (of just two centuries domination) without any thoughts about other cultural’ value and believes! In simple terms, there ARE ways beyond just “win lose” mentality! The values and principles of Asia, specifically China and the regions, ARE of ZERO interest about win or lose! Asia, with thousands of years of histories, are more concerned about prosperity of its own, as compared to the “hegemonic win lose mindset” of the west! That’s the very basic reason, even when, Asia, specifically China, for thousands of years, in those days with its formidable forces, are not concern or have zero concern or interest about who win who lose, let alone who dominate any part of the world! History proven it, and even now, China has ZERO interest about power domination. It’s all about business trading, that’s IT! 2nd, that’s also the very basic reason, John in his own, is not Chinese or for any matter, Asian, and DO NOT have any cultural values or principles of ASIANs, or Asia mindset, that will never ever truly understand Asia’s way of life! In other words, Asia on its own, do not like to meddle into other country’s internal business, or pointing fingers, or lecturing others, how to lead their way of lives! Asia’s way of livelihood are based on respect, reverence of other cultures, values, principles, and keeping others as it is, and doing business dealing as it should and would be! These are the points for the west to learn! It’s not and never always about just west! In simple terms, the west has to learn - west mindset is NOT the world mindset! Hegemonic mindset must be taken down to understand the WORLD!
John is realist and he is correct to those points he raised. If I should at what he fears to add was that the US has been able to win German, British,Japan and Soviet Empires because it took a wars for them to be weaken, wars that the US never fought directly. China will win because it has chosen the method of economic which is the real war not armor.
John is looking at China and speculating its potential future behaviour through western lens ; he has no clue on how Chinese think & act. Kishore on the other hand understands both western & eastern ( Chinese ) mindset and his comments on potential future Chinese behaviour have support from historical events concerning China. I have seen several videos of John talks on geopolitics and I would say all his comments regarding China in particular are not worth a cent
🌏🪶 According to my old crystal balls.... Future China shall still be reflecting as what she is standing for today. That is P- peaceful R- resolute C- considerate Progressive, Rising & Clearheaded Staying at the top of 1st World Nations🥰 🙏🏻💕🦋🕊️🕊️🦋💕🙏🏻
China will try to rise peacefully whereas USA tries to maintain her domination of the world. As of now USA is already in a difficult position due to her debts, deindustrization, inflation, rising unemployment (full time employment), deterioration of infrastructures, internal bikery between Republicans and Democrats, declining number of STEM graduates, the gap between the rich and the poor and also declining usage of dollar in international trade. Whether the competition turns into a hot war depends on how China utilizes her advantage (industrial might and control of critical materials, Galium, Germanium, Antimony) to "suppress" USA.
🧡 US / America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Niger 2023 Haiti 2024 Congo 2024 *
everyone is talking about the US and China... they forgot there is a country called Russia...it WILL BE one of the dominant countries IF NOT THE dominant one in terms of military power
China proven through history is mainly concerned with holding their country together and Yuan dynasty were mongols and not Han Chinese. On a more realistic view, China would want to rise peacefully but US being a warlike hegemonic nature will not accept it without causing wars directly or indirectly thru proxy wars to bring down China economic advancement. The outcome will either be China with such tolerance and wisdom could avert a war or US desperation in provoking China with such core and sore issues like Taiwan's declaration of independence which China would have no choice but to respond militarily. On the question of will China win, history has proven again proven that China is the only country which has an unbroken history of 4-5 thousand years and with many dynasties like Han, Tang an Ming at the top of global eminence, far dwarfing US empire of less than 300 years. The culture and resilience of a civilisation has brought China back to become the second biggest economy in a span of 40 years and we are not setting a dateline for China to overtake the US. Another few more decades is nothing but a short period in history.
Never going to happen Population is collapsing Youth cannot find jobs, 27% unemployed Low values jobs, eg food delivery Rich people are leaving with their capital No free ideas Tariffs are slowing down exports Property market 30% of gdp has collapsed It's a mess!!!
Oh yeah? Chances are that when you are on your death bed, China will already have risen peacefully overtaking the US to become the largest economy in the world. Eat your heart out, bozo.
China didn't sail the world's oceans unlike the Europeans. They sailed parts of Indian and Pacific. China can rise peacefully if other nations submit to China's demands. Just like Russia rise will be peaceful if Europe surrenders. The Phillipines Taiwan and Japan don't show any sign of submitting to China Not so sure about India
You obviously do not know history. Check out the voyages of Zheng He, almost a century before Columbus. He had 200 ships and 30,000 men. He sailed all the way from China to East Africa. He established diplomatic and trade ties. But not a single petty chiefdom was colonised or enslaved. Now compare that with Columbus who sailed 90 years later. He had 3 ships and 90 men. What was his legacy? Conquest and enslavement and colonisation. Your Western smug ignorance is why the world is sick of you. That is why there is a long line of countries hoping to join BRICS
There are interesting suggestions that Zheng He sailed down the American West Coast with a fleet of over 100 massive 100m long ships around 1408. Nearly a century before Columbus "discovered" Ohio.
I agree more with Koshore that China would raise peacefully but if provoked by external forces, it would react prudently and not be humiliated as in the past. China is well known for not interfering internal politics of other nations and wouldn't seek to dominate the Asia region At the same time, it wouldn't keep quiet if US seek to dominate the region. Economically I believe China can win as well as in other areas. US would be pulled back by its uncontrollable foreign debts.
China is not interested in overtaking anyone, just get on with life.
Some people say China is expansionist, they must be wrong because we dont see China having disputes with their neighbor, what do you think.
@@TerrySalahatliterally every country in SC sea have territorial disputes with each other and overwhelming majority have learned to coexist peacefully with each other. Only US puppets like Bong Bong Marcos go out of its way to provoke the status quo.
@@TerrySalahatWell, certainly like most countries on earth, China has disputes with its neighbours, near and far, on borders, trades, technology, security, etc, etc, but there is no hot war that involved/involves China in the past 45 years. China is busy developing itself and build defence capabilities for itself.
On question 1, I think John M is wrong because he does not understand Chinese people and China's history. Former foreign minister of Spore, George Yeo gives a very convincing answer to why China will not want to dominate Asia militarily.
Kishore is likely the one to be correct than John.
If it is John, then Taiwan would be returned to China much earlier, and the Philippines would be facing real cannons and not water cannons........
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani 👍👍Mr. John Mearsheimer 👎👎
John M just shows how the Western mentality is working. He sees China purely from the eyes of Western mindset, while Mr. Kishore M being an Asian understands China pretty well. Also, question no. 1 sounds ridiculous and an understatement at best. China has been rising, it's out of the question, without wasting a single bullet!
1. The heated debate on the possibility of China overtaking the USA is basically immaterial.
2. China is not concerned about the various comments and radical criticism from outside world. China mainly focuses on the long-term strategy and pragmatic approaches so as to achieve the overall good results , including the improvement of ecosystem , minimization of desert areas , advancement of space exploration , uplifting the welfare of its 56 ethnic groups , greenery of the whole country , implementation of the principles of mutual respect , mutual prosperity and peaceful coexistence for the whole world , etc.
3. China firmly upholds and implements its motto : EMPTY TALKS RUIN COUNTRY ; SMART AND HARD WORK PROSPER NATION ( 空谈误国 ，实干兴邦 ）.
As a Chinese person, I feel that my country is not interested in managing or dominating other countries. What we are concerned about is protecting our own interests in terms of economy and security
I absolutely agree with prof kishore.china would raise peacefully,but if provoked,china will stand
Who is provoking china?
A frog in a well to asked that question.
@Likeqiang20
John is wrong.
I totally agree. Québécois living in Cambodia.
He is just another shallow and low grade Yankee.
John is judging china by his own (US) actions
I believe in Professor Kishor. Mearsheimer doesn't know what's talking about! Typical warmonger imperialist viewpoint!
We are already in the Asia century
Asia is the manufacturing centre of the world
@@WingkKong Asia is also the population and capital center of the world.
John mersheimer is an hegemony of the American empire
On basis of China's historical records, China will rise peacefully unlike the USA that has a history of peace for only 16 years out of 250 years. Whereas China has not fired a single bullets in four decades despite all the ups and downs in the border conflict as well. You may not agree with me but this is how you perceive and how and where you have been raised influence our thoughts. The USA may have dealt with German, Japan and Soviet Union effectively, but China is different this time on basis of its largest trade with the world communities and they would take century of humiliation as guiding force to take their country forward.
Profeessor John is too old to answer the
Questions☝🏻😄
Professor Kishore Mahbubani is brilliant & highly respected Worldwide.🙏🙏🙏👍🏼🙂
A bully can not and will not let anyone to become bigger and badder than him without a fight and resounding defeat, that's the core reason why China may not be rising peacefully. For the bully even if the new guy means no ill, he'd still be afraid of those who used to be bullied by him.
Western stupid ideology
Western superiority
I agree with you. The only way that America will allow China to rise peacefully is if China can show that it has the greater military might than America. America then has no choice but to sit by and see China rise peacefully.
I agree more with Kishore that China would rise peacefully but if provoked , it would react and not be humiliated again this time, unlike in the past. China is known for not interfering in internal politics of other nations and thus wouldn't seek to dominate the Asia region.John basis of his conclusion does not match with the reality but seems rather biased, hmmmm
Dinosaur VS Dragon 🤷
that john guy is using american brain try to solved china LOL
The Chinese of today are not the same as the Chinese of 2000 years ago.
So?? Your point??
Admiral Zheng He to be correct.
Funny how Westerners refuse to accept that Zheng He discovered and mapped many nations from India to Africa and may even have visited North America half a century before Columbus. The Chinese never made sovereign claims over any of these. Meanwhile an Italian mercenary expedition financed by Spain sails three little ships to North America and now claims to own the entire continent (after genociding the natives out of existence).
It all depends on USA , China is rising and overtake America,but America might like war rather than Chinese takeover
As long as China political system remains stable, it would be on a trajectory that surpass US that is facing elections every 4 years.
I'm with Kishore.
Of course, China can rise peacefully. China never conquered and colonized far away lands and islands around the world. Professor John M. Is completely wrong while Professor Kishore M. is completely right because he has knowledge of China's history.
Hahaha... I am not sure what John is smoking but I think he is delusional, just like the title of his book - The Great Delusion.
I FULLY agree with Prof Kishore. John is speaking from a Western mindset of capitalism, who thinks that such shall be there forever, despite the evidence that everything is transient.
With due respect to Prof Mearsheimer who I admire greatly for his principled stance on the Palestinian rights issue, I believe he is very off base on this one. To compare America's former potential rivals (Imperial/Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Soviet Union) to the massive size and economic dynamism that is China that has seen no equal since the rise of America itself after WWII should not be underestimated. Over the decades since the fall of Berlin and USSR, America has not only lost its economic vitality but now increasingly its cultural and diplomatic influence. With the exception of several client state lapdogs, who in the global community genuinely want the US to lead the world as its policeman? In particular when it has proven again and again the hypocritical farce of its own professed "rules based int'l order"? The world is changing fast, and the world has options other than this outdated leviathan.
Totally AGREE with Kishore.. Always look at HISTORY. Both China and Russia NEVER HAVE STARTED AN AGGRESSIVE WAR TO DOMINATE, while the US has started dozens of war and interestingly ALWAYS lost.
China already the Top Economy and Russia the Top Military nation, Ukrainian war is proving that..
More appropriate question will be “Will China be allowed to rise peacefully”?
Absolutely if it doesn't break the law
@@JustJamesDeanWho will allow?? Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha.. And, what laws?? Western-rule based international order?? Well, ... Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha..
John belongs to the old school who still cannot shake off his old outdated paradigms. While Kishore is a pragmatist with sharp eyes to the future. The reality US's a permanently warring but bankrupt entity while China keeps building relationship and is awash with great wealth. Militarily, China has tried & tested a working hypersonic glide vehicles that once launched has no known defence. US has none. But in a nuclear war scenario, both will go extinct nobody wins. ❤from indonesia.
People tend to see others as a reflection of themselves. People's perceptions of the world around them are a projection of their internal thoughts.
The US won WW2 by sheer industrial might. That sheer industrial might of the US is well and truly a thing of the past whilst it is China now who possess that sheer industrial might.
mearsheimer is american, they will never accept that american will lose, economically and culturally, china has 4000 years of civilisation, 700 milion chinese are no longer living innpoverty but are middle income consumers, while americans are the opposite ✌️
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I wonder if Mearsheimer has studied (not just read) the 'Art of War' section on governance. Chinese have learn through decades of war that destroying your enemy (or competitor) is not desirable b/c you are left with MORE issues to undertake and resolve; it is not about the war itself but rather the consequences for the victor!. If you are not able to govern yourself (due to unmanageable bureaucracy), it makes no sense to conquer anything b/c you are adding more responsibilities. The western approach is to just pass it off (in righteous voice: let them choose), will fail b/c they will resort back to how they are naturally. You have to full take on and fully assimilate the people as your own - only then can you say you truly won. China knows this too well and has NO desire for more bureaucracy and take on other people's problems.
Also, if you are the regional superpower, of course neighboring nations WILL naturally gravitate towards you and take on influences. Similar to wanting to hangout with the cool kids and picking up good and bad habits. This does not mean China is pushing their agenda. Think of China as the equivalent of the EU, it is much more than just 1 country. Unlike the EU, China is trying to unite everyone into a central governance model, which they have evolved.
It is unfortunate that Professor Mearsheimer has not understood Chinese logic and thinking which is essentially grounded in Confucius thoughts. As Mahbuhani repeated state that China even during her period of economic, political dominance never once tried to invade, conquer other countries. Westerners concept, logic is so different than Chinese. Our good professor logic is inevitably a Western concept which misunderstood China. I have high regards for both. As a Chinese, and have been to China, have relatives, business partners, I know how majority of the Chinese think. A Caveat : If we from the West keep provoking China, this would be a different story.
1st of all, it’s MOST appropriate to remove the word “win, won or lose”! Cause this wordings are just a very one sided, very very narrow views (rigid mindedness, stereotype mindset) from the west (of just two centuries domination) without any thoughts about other cultural’ value and believes! In simple terms, there ARE ways beyond just “win lose” mentality! The values and principles of Asia, specifically China and the regions, ARE of ZERO interest about win or lose! Asia, with thousands of years of histories, are more concerned about prosperity of its own, as compared to the “hegemonic win lose mindset” of the west! That’s the very basic reason, even when, Asia, specifically China, for thousands of years, in those days with its formidable forces, are not concern or have zero concern or interest about who win who lose, let alone who dominate any part of the world! History proven it, and even now, China has ZERO interest about power domination. It’s all about business trading, that’s IT! 2nd, that’s also the very basic reason, John in his own, is not Chinese or for any matter, Asian, and DO NOT have any cultural values or principles of ASIANs, or Asia mindset, that will never ever truly understand Asia’s way of life! In other words, Asia on its own, do not like to meddle into other country’s internal business, or pointing fingers, or lecturing others, how to lead their way of lives! Asia’s way of livelihood are based on respect, reverence of other cultures, values, principles, and keeping others as it is, and doing business dealing as it should and would be! These are the points for the west to learn! It’s not and never always about just west! In simple terms, the west has to learn - west mindset is NOT the world mindset! Hegemonic mindset must be taken down to understand the WORLD!
John is realist and he is correct to those points he raised.
If I should at what he fears to add was that the US has been able to win German, British,Japan and Soviet Empires because it took a wars for them to be weaken, wars that the US never fought directly.
China will win because it has chosen the method of economic which is the real war not armor.
John is looking at China and speculating its potential future behaviour through western lens ; he has no clue on how Chinese think & act. Kishore on the other hand understands both western & eastern ( Chinese ) mindset and his comments on potential future Chinese behaviour have support from historical events concerning China. I have seen several videos of John talks on geopolitics and I would say all his comments regarding China in particular are not worth a cent
What should you expect?, John is an Anglo-Saxon old chap.
🌏🪶
According to my old crystal balls....
Future China shall still be reflecting as what she is standing for today. That is
P- peaceful
R- resolute
C- considerate
Progressive,
Rising &
Clearheaded
Staying at the top of 1st World Nations🥰
🙏🏻💕🦋🕊️🕊️🦋💕🙏🏻
No , for sure not🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🥳🥳🥳 ( because If you are on the first place. you cannot someone overtake )
Well, China is already Numero Uno in many sectors/areas. China is already the largest economy in terms of PPP since 2016. So???
Domination means pushibg the things as someone want to do. May 8:04
this debate took place a few years ago?
China will try to rise peacefully whereas USA tries to maintain her domination of the world. As of now USA is already in a difficult position due to her debts, deindustrization, inflation, rising unemployment (full time employment), deterioration of infrastructures, internal bikery between Republicans and Democrats, declining number of STEM graduates, the gap between the rich and the poor and also declining usage of dollar in international trade. Whether the competition turns into a hot war depends on how China utilizes her advantage (industrial might and control of critical materials, Galium, Germanium, Antimony) to "suppress" USA.
🧡 US / America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question...
Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify.
Pakistan 2022 *
Haiti 2022 *
Niger 2023
Haiti 2024
Congo 2024 *
everyone is talking about the US and China... they forgot there is a country called Russia...it WILL BE one of the dominant countries IF NOT THE dominant one in terms of military power
Soviet union collapsed penniless
Please don't go there
Some great books to feed on..
China proven through history is mainly concerned with holding their country together and Yuan dynasty were mongols and not Han Chinese. On a more realistic view, China would want to rise peacefully but US being a warlike hegemonic nature will not accept it without causing wars directly or indirectly thru proxy wars to bring down China economic advancement. The outcome will either be China with such tolerance and wisdom could avert a war or US desperation in provoking China with such core and sore issues like Taiwan's declaration of independence which China would have no choice but to respond militarily. On the question of will China win, history has proven again proven that China is the only country which has an unbroken history of 4-5 thousand years and with many dynasties like Han, Tang an Ming at the top of global eminence, far dwarfing US empire of less than 300 years. The culture and resilience of a civilisation has brought China back to become the second biggest economy in a span of 40 years and we are not setting a dateline for China to overtake the US. Another few more decades is nothing but a short period in history.
Anyone here from Tianjin? Hospitals are packed with sick children with flu lije symptoms.
I know winter is coming, but packed like this is not normal
It's seasonal. No worries...
Old debate from 4 years ago.
China in 1800s did not conquer the world because the west already did, Kishore should read some history books.
Shhhhh....avoid the truth
China could in the Ming dynasty but did not.. kishore stating facts. Get your facts right.. reading history books from unreliable source aren't smart😂
Never going to happen
Population is collapsing
Youth cannot find jobs, 27% unemployed
Low values jobs, eg food delivery
Rich people are leaving with their capital
No free ideas
Tariffs are slowing down exports
Property market 30% of gdp has collapsed
It's a mess!!!
Oh yeah? Chances are that when you are on your death bed, China will already have risen peacefully overtaking the US to become the largest economy in the world. Eat your heart out, bozo.
Well, are you talking about USofA???
China didn't sail the world's oceans unlike the Europeans. They sailed parts of Indian and Pacific. China can rise peacefully if other nations submit to China's demands. Just like Russia rise will be peaceful if Europe surrenders. The Phillipines Taiwan and Japan don't show any sign of submitting to China Not so sure about India
You obviously do not know history. Check out the voyages of Zheng He, almost a century before Columbus. He had 200 ships and 30,000 men. He sailed all the way from China to East Africa. He established diplomatic and trade ties. But not a single petty chiefdom was colonised or enslaved. Now compare that with Columbus who sailed 90 years later. He had 3 ships and 90 men. What was his legacy? Conquest and enslavement and colonisation. Your Western smug ignorance is why the world is sick of you. That is why there is a long line of countries hoping to join BRICS
It is the expansion of American power to the east which create conflict with Russia
There are interesting suggestions that Zheng He sailed down the American West Coast with a fleet of over 100 massive 100m long ships around 1408. Nearly a century before Columbus "discovered" Ohio.
How many wars between China and Russia?
Get yourself an education first dude!