As someone with multiple chronic illnesses, saying "i don't know" actually increases my faith in their competence, because I and many others have had so much harm done through doctors (even fake) overconfidence. If I know you're humble enough to admit you don't know, i can tell you're more likely to actually read up on the symptoms,, diagnostic criteria, treatments etc and are more likely to actually listen to me.
you are not the only one to think that.. As a physician, I sometimes tell people that they need to tell me when they think i’m doing something wrong. I tell them that their life is too important to be quiet or too polite, and I will not be too proud or too sensitive to hear what they say. I also tell them that we work as a team. I always get great praise from patients when I say it. Because I mean it..
@@chrisp5526 here’s an example of me at 17 years old trying to explain to the pediatric cardiologist that I’m concerned about bouts I chest pain I get. The doctor disagree that I have pain. “i have chest pain episodes for an hour where I have to breath shallow and I have to lie flat” -me at 17 years old after being diagnosed with an 1st degree av block. “You just have to poop you aren’t feeling pain” -the pediatric cardiologist. “No it really hurts it’s like barbed wire getting tighter and tighter every breath” -me “well 1st degree av block is symptomless so actually you aren’t. You just have to poop” -the cardiologist “i don’t think that it” -me “alright your good to take this medication that requires me to clear you to take” (to cover your neurologist bc your heart rhythm on your ekg was irregular. Now your neurologist cant put you on this med legally without have me a cardiologist clear you. Bc this med has a history of causing heart issues in people with heart conditions. But if I just ignore it and never leave a record of your chest pain say your irregular heart rhythm , that’s diagnosed based on the symptoms not just the ekg, then me and the neurologist are covered in the case your suffer an adverse reaction or die)
@@Groovygal2026 Pain is a very subjective thing, that truly exists, and can be very difficult to treat. I empathize with you. Unfortunately for many people who have no pain, it is difficult to understand how debilitating it can be to have any type of pain, daily. It truly can cause depression and anxiety, and I would wish it on nobody.
@@wogaboga9480 I’m a veteran, too. That is just terrible what happened to you. Doctors like that give VA hospitals/clinics a bad name. The same happens at none-VA places, too. So it’s always hit or miss. I hope you found the care you need. I applied for VA jobs, but none were available at my locations, and they did not give privileges of hiring to vets, with me being told the rule of hiring vets when available does not apply to a professional job. I love taking care of vets. I am lucky and I receive amazing care at the vet VA clinic I attend. And the providers truly care.
I was telling a friend about all the doctors I've seen over the last 3 years and how they've done absolutely nothing, there's no accountability whatsoever. She put it best, it's criminal!
Criminal and cultish says it all. Their professional associations cover for them. If u are mistreated in anyway, get ur butt to a independent medical attorney.
I’ve experienced this too, over the last 15 plus years! No more doctors for me! Going holistic now. It’s a disgrace and they are doing it to themselves!😡
A lot of them are butchers and don’t care. They’re not listening to the patients. And they’re supposed t. We need to file class action suits and use the courts to change this fast and if need be file charges of criminal negligence and attempted malpractices
Doctors have become incompetent, apathetic and lazy-Often shielded from accountability by arbitration clauses patients have to sign to be serviced through H.M.O's. so they don't make referrals up the chain to specialists & order tests that they should.
It's utterly incomprehensible that people who are making life & death decisions are being forced into a model that makes them so sleep deprived that they can't tell left from right.
The vast majority of health care provider mistakes are made by someone who has been working for longer than 8 hours. That's why most other developed countries limit the hours healthcare providers can work.; With a system like Single Payer, (government acts as insurance company--doesn't own hospitals or clinics), a single entity is taking care of the patient all the patient's life. So spending a little more early on to prevent huge costs later is incentivized. Our system is the only for-profit, unregulated system that I know of. Since the insurance company won't have to pay for the expensive treatment or surgery caused by denying care now, there is no incentive not to deny the care. I started medical school in 1979. Many older physicians described working many fewer hours in residency than I was working. Many hospitals hired extra interns so that they had enough intern staff to work a night shift for a couple of months a year which meant that the day shift physicians usually were able to go home. Then in the early 1970's a federal judge ruled that residents and interns were not employees. He claimed they were "trainees" and that workplace health and safety laws did not apply to medical students or residents. The hospitals went to town squeezing more work (and thus more profit) out of the residents and medical students. The profit model should not be used to run systems that people absolutely need. If you can't pay for a new couch, well, that's too bad, but it won't kill you. If you can't pay for needed health care--that can kill you. You can also be killed by the mistakes caused by lack of sleep and overwork. Our current system in the US is only good for CEO's like Dollar Bill McGuire who received 10 billion in compensation over 10 years as the CEO of United Healthcare. You have to deny a lot of people a lot of care to take $10 billion out of a healthcare system. I routinely worked 120 hours per week in my residency. I saw so many residents making terrible mistakes. I was so afraid that I would be too tired to do a good job and because of fatigue, harm someone, that I developed major depression. 25% of internal medicine residents suffer a severe episode of major depression during internship according to the research of Jan Fawcett, MD, at the University of Illinois medical school in Chicago.
I have a friend who actually gave birth on ther lawn outside the ER doors. Afterwards, she was admitted and the baby was taken to the nursery. When the bill came, it included charges for the labor and delivery rooms. Her husband took it to billing to protest, demanding, "What is this, greens fees?" Those charges were dropped.
@@AuxCart No, I think they just say, "she had a baby, here's the usual charges." The funky thing is, her mother was sent home from the same hospital, got as far as her driveway, gave birth with her husband attending, and went back to the hospital to make sure everything was okay. Both women had really, really fast labors. Me too, but I actually made it into the hospital for mine.
Our medical system is so disturbing. There is no oversight for corruption or inadequate physicians. Patients are left to investigate their doctor’s backgrounds and hope he can be trusted. They are not Gods! Patients need to be diligent and get involved in their care.
Preaching to the choir, dear. I look for the docs who aren't mediocre or borderline incompetent, after years of numerous docs whenever I had to change insurance, moves et al.
I'm a Ped RN and afraid of the adult healthcare system. I'm at the age of needing care, and am shocked at how differently adult drs treat their patients including writing you off at a certain age. It's called age appropriate care, which means at a certain age, I guess they don't really care.
Im not shocked. A doctor I didnt gel with wrote some colorful comments about me way back in the 1970s. Every doctor I have seen since then has introduced themselves to me then said "I see you can be a handful". How the heck are you supposed to build a relationship concerning very serious health issues (cancer, heart failure) after that introduction?
The cruelest lie is chemotherapy where, except for a small number of specialized cancers, there is virtually no increase in life expectancy with these horrible treatments worse than torture.
@@thejay3804 My doctor has been hassling me for 20 years about going for cancer screenings I don't need or want, it's all about the billings, everything they want you to do is about money and their incentives. I have read extensively about practice operations, statins, SSRI's and therapies for cancer. I have known most of my adult live that I would not accept these toxic and carcinogenic therapies. Your cancer has spread, really? How about that it is actually secondary cancer after treatments with carcinogenic toxins?
Back in the old days you got a physical every time you went to the doctor. Doctors have found ear infections, tonsillitis, bronchitis and twice pneumonia that i didn't even know I had. I just felt bad for way too long and reached out for help. A relative of mine went in for an annual check up and ended up being rushed to the hospital. Turned out he was having a heart attack at that moment. His doc had heard his heart dozens of times and this was not right. But now it's rare to get even a basic physical. You usually go in and talk. Doctors, I promise you, you're missing important things by skipping this vital step. You've been well trained to catch things that average people don't even recognize as symptoms. Behave like it.
I had a follow-up visit April 2016 after a bad bronchitis attack that a) caused me to faint at work and b) taught me not to drink even a glass of wine while on Prednisone found me back in the hospital - a fib.
@Vociferon A diagnosis is made primarily by history with a physical adding little to the diagnostic process thus the boom of the telemedicine industry. A target exam for specific systems is warranted. An annual exam is helpful. But an exam on every visit for low risk patients just means you will be waiting hours for a doctor who is hours behind performing unnecessary exams.
How long ago was this. Im 57 and never had one. Not that I'd want 1.I like when my dr. checks my blood pressure and my heart. I get blood work every 6 months and EKG once a year Perfect for me.
I'm a prime example of no heart problems registered on an EKG when I visited my heart doctor. Added to that, I never felt I was having a heart problem. My doc suggested I get an EKG device from Amazon. Using the data I supplied, the doc was able to get Medicare to allow a procedure.
The rationed healthcare method in Canada has similar issues. Now with MAiD expansion we can expect to see wait times expand further, and assisted dying being promoted (incentivized/pressured on) to patients as an alternative to declining health and pain while waiting for care/treatment.
@@michaeldayman682 I have been following this practice and I know that people who are in financial difficulty and have a physical disability are offered MAID as a solution to their problem. On woman, former military in wheelchair had her rent jacked up and she could not pay nor find new affordable housing, solution....? Now they are also going after the organs too while the deed is done, appealing to your virtue. People actually agree and have their organs assessed before their date with sanctioned assistance. I have read the entire sordid history of donation and if others did they certainly would not offer their loved one's up for this procedure. The whole system is predicated on fabrications.
A few years back when I actually went into the patient portal for my GP for the first time, I was shocked. The notes from each visit were super long and all lies. None of what was said was done was actually done.
I was waiting in the exam room for my cardiologist. I read my file while I waited. I was shocked to see that a strangers tests were mixed in with mine! I have an extremely common name but the other person lived in a neighboring town! When I pointed out the error to the office staff all they would say was "Youre not supposed to be reading that". I have a very serious heart condition + AFib + COPD + Cancer! I dont want someone elses tests and medical notes affecting the care I should get! That doctor left that office, I followed him to the Cleve Clinic. He said he was unaware of the incident.
I get charged for a visit every time they call me on the phone to change an appointment or if a call them for a refill. It costs my insurance what amounts to thousands for a literal 1 minute telephone convo.
They can charge for many things that don't help. I'm large, so if they say I should lose weight, they bill for weight management, when all they say is I'm fat, not how to manage it.
I had a gaslighting physician put into patient files and chart that I had my annual mammogram and breast exam and charge my insurance for them. I’m a breast cancer survivor with no breast, so no mammo… I didn’t notice it until I had already changed physicians because I was so very very sick of being sick and sicker of her being so condescending about it. I was diagnosed with a rare autoimmune disorder and we stopped my medication during my cancer treatments. Then insurance changed my provider. And this lovely know it all was so upset when I asked for a referral to a specialist to update my medications she stated that But “ you don’t have this, why do you think you have this….”. It should be in my chart, I’ve literally always had this and this and this and she said well that was “ the other medical team” I don’t have THOSE charts. Wait what? Three months later with a different physician and and a specialist and they’re like…what she did was criminal, it’s medical neglect to knowingly and intentionally leave a patient to be without necessary treatment and medication. Why…why would I lie about a diagnosis I’ve had for decades? I actually liked her and we got along well even though she lied about my visits and medications oddly enough. But it was after she realized I was part of a different medical hospital before that she must have been rejected from the residency program or something, I went to that residency program, my mother retired as a critical care nurse, my dad retired from surgery.. so maybe I either intimidated her or she just hated them.lol
I love a honest answer from a doctor, we had a bit of a medical mystery with my oldest son. The doctor was open about not being able to give us answers. He sent us to a few specialists while still looking for answers on his own. Hin and the specialists worked together to find us answers. We finally got a Diagnosis. I have alot of respect for that doctor and now drive a hour and half to see him because I refuse to lose such a great doctor if we don't Absolutely have to
Yes there are some great ones out there both doctors and surgeons but you have to search and vett them good and yes it’s worth driving or traveling far to see if they are that honest and good.
When I had my c-section, nurses would walk into my room, set something down and charge my insurance without ever asking me if I needed that item. Don't let hospitals take advantage of you and be your own advocate.
I had a dentist who told me he only did very basic routine procedures. He drew the line at like root canals. He basically was trying to avoid anything that would cause the patients too much pain. He knew that the suicide rate for dentists was abnormally high and he wanted to avoid the misery typically associated with the occupation. He was still pretty young-under 40-and was in great shape, went skydiving, skiing, and took at least 1 or 2 vacations each quarter. He had a girlfriend but wasn’t married, no kids. His golden years would probably look very different from his peers but that might be a good thing. He was always very happy and very low stress. I’d like to see more professionals living like this in our society.
@bioold8925 google it...info is all over the map. Many reports state dentists have the highest suicide rate of any profession, others say there is no difference. As to reasons, there is only subjective data, nothing objective. I imagine it wears a person down if their customers hate them, hate having to see them, and if you are inflicting pain on people all day every day. I don't know anybody who looks forward to or claims to enjoy going to the dentist.
I had one great dentist and he said none of us have any business doing root canals and they should only ever be done by a specialist. I would never have another one as I have since learned they can be detrimental to the heart. You have to find honest assessments of some practices. many non specialized dentists do root canals, $$$$$
My late husband and I had a GP who never hesitated to say,"I don't know". His next words were usually, "But I'm referring you to someone who does". He also never minded if we did our own research. Once my husband was worried about an upcoming surgery, and begged me to look into alternatives. I discovered some very interesting information that actually pointed to a less invasive treatment that had a better success rate. My brother-in-law had the surgery and got worse. My husband, with his GP's agreement, had the alternative treatment, weathered recurrences of the condition, and cost Medicare a heck of a lot less.
And when they don't know what's wrong with you, some of them recur to that old nugget: "It's all in your head". That is one of the worst forms of gaslighting there is.
Number 3 is soooo spot on though. I work for the billing dept for several hospitals. It’s crazy how easy I personally can mess up costs. But it’s sad because 90% of doctors make up the codes and add extra things and we wonder why money is such a big deterrent from getting medical help
We go to a local little clinic for certain things. After several years of an hsa plan where we had to pay for our services my job switched to a ppo where I have a 15.00 copay. I went to little clinic and so did my son. Paid the 15 and kept getting billed. Turns out they were billing at the level of a specialist. My insurance company figured it out and had it fixed. I wondered how many times they did that before and we just paid it because we had no idea what the codes meant.
We had to prescheduled appointments with our kid to an orthopedic specialist. 2 appointments with 2 sets of x-rays, 1 cast and cast removal and 1 brace given (that was all that was done in 2 appointments) came up to 12k. I nearly lost my mind. They were sending bills in portions exactly 2 months apart. For over a year after. Each time claiming it was the last bill. But in 2 months we were getting another one with even more ridiculous charges. For example, the brace, which on the manufacturer's website was $34 and $39 on amazon, they charged us $1,198. A simple wrist brace. They charged for fitting of the brace. While they just brought one and simply put it on. As my 9 year old was doing at home by herself many times after. The appointment was a separate charge, doctors consultation was a separate charge, the use of the room for the appointment was a separate charge, x-ray separately, tech that performed x-ray billed separately, cast separately, tech that put on the cast billed separately and so on. 2 years past I am still scared to get another made up bill. FYI, all bills were paid upon receiving. Their explanation - they turned out to be a non-profit clinic and we are paying the cost for procedures for ourselves and for those who cannot afford it. So simple. We were referred there from the ER.
My surgeon lied on my chart. I logged into the patient website after surgery and he dictated that he went over my surgery and listed the risks he supposedly told me about in detail. He told me NOTHING. I didn’t even know I was going to be under general anesthesia. I knew nothing about my surgery and he didn’t volunteer any information.
@@tesstess3371 That’s for C -Sections. I’m talking other surgeries. But, if they’re leading you into the operating room, and you haven’t gotten an epidural, wouldn’t you think a smart enough person would ask, “umm, how are you going to knock me out so I don’t feel when you start cutting into my flesh?!” 😂 It’s the patients responsibility to ask questions especially if the Dr isn’t giving much info
@@cjhoward409 The responsabity is on the patient? Normally patients do not know anything about medical stuff and thr responsability is on the doctor to give indepth information. How can a patient ask the right questions, if he/she has no clue? I ask questions, but then i get brushed of. So, asking questions do not work either and so on. It is a nighmare. Better...never deeing a doctor and stay away.
You must have signed something. I’ve had many surgeries over the years and after my Dr has gone over everything, I’ve signed that page stating that in fact we discussed all of this. 🤷🏼♀️
I had a surgeon perform a surgery I did not need. Falsely diagnosed me with an issue. I was severely injured as a result. Harsh punishment needed for this crime
I went to Bassett in Cooperstown ny. They overdosed me on the ER and I stopped breathing. In the mean time they took me into the operating room and removed my appendix. Trouble is I had already had. It removed a few years earlier. When I told Dr , who was chief of surgery I had it out a few years earlier he said I should have told him that before the surgery. I was unconscious from the overdose. I was billed and had to pay for appendectomy anyways.
I have refractory epilepsy, and so many doctors have just brushed me off. I am guessing they were too busy to investigate further. I've had it since I was a child, and up until 4 years ago I'd have seizures daily, sometimes several times a day. About 9 years ago I got a neurologist who took the time to investigate, trying different things. Finally, she pushed a VNS through the Medicaid system. It took months to have the surgery approved but it's amazing how well it has worked. I've been seizure free for 4 awesome years. I have a life now, living alone, cooking, shopping, doing normal stuff without fear. Sadly, she retired in December. I've been waiting for months to see the new guy, I hope he's almost as good as she was.
My father in law went in for a small belly button hernia; a simple procedure to fix it. While in the hospital he got a serious infection. An attorney saw the medical records and could see things that had whiteout and written over; he was also given the wrong medication which caused an allergic reaction, and the record of that was also altered later to show that he originally given the “correct” medication
The same thing happened to a guy at my gym. He went for hernia procedure but end up with infection. They also vax him without his consent. Now he has some kind of blood clot on his legs and now he can't walk. He was a perfectly fit healthy guy.
This is why I will never set foot in The United States as a doctor. Extreme taxes, soul-draining work hours, forbidden from asking for help, the constant fear of being sued for absurd stuff... Nah, American healthcare is too messed up.
SO true about faking confidence. One day they are Medical Students and the next day they are Doctors and 1’st year Residents making life and death decisions on very little sleep. I worked as an RN for many years in a Level 1 ED/Trauma center. Patients really don’t want to know that they don’t have the experienced Doctor so residents fake their confidence. As experienced Nurses we would really have to watch order closely to ensure no one died 🤷♀️
....a nd guess who's to blame when the resident makes a bad call and the pilot-in-charge, the Attending Doctor, is nowhere to be found? "The nurse should have caught that" amirite?
I had a primary doctor at one point who took it upon herself to "summarize" my medical records before forwarding a copy to another doctor. She had me living in states I've never seen, filling prescriptions that never existed, and all kinds of opinionated ideas about my medical history. My new doctor threw it in the trash right in front of me. It's a shame that I might have needed those records to be accurate for a variety of reasons and nothing would ever happen to her even if I could convince the state of her fraudulent activity. I have a wonderful PCP now and couldn't be happier. Great video!
I agree 100% can't yell u how many times our doctors rush through your 4 min appt yet they dictate a full head to toe exam. When they never went pass the entrance of the door! Love u doctor!!
That's probably why the AMA Guidelines for 2021 and now 2023 don't include the history & exam in scoring E&M visits. It's either the level of MDM or total time on the date of service that determines what a provider should bill.
Ok mechanic living about air filter and lying and most people lying on CV are looking to work a desk job supporting the all of cheap consumer goods. They are not treating people medical condition. Equating them as the same is wrong.
My GP and good friend told me Drs make most of their money on pharmaceutical kick backs prescribing meds. She didn’t like to prescribe unnecessary meds. Explains why she was driving a 10 year old car. She was more into telling people to change their lifestyle versus taking a pill for it.
We do not get any pharmaceutical kickbacks. My paycheck comes from the hospital that hired me. No drug rep is going to force me to peddle their wares. I have never lied on death certificates either. Nothing good to be gained by veering off from the straight line.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus I was speaking directly about a general practitioner. Not a hospital doctor. And they do get money from pharmecutical companies every time they write a script.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus I’m sure most Drs won’t admit to it. But there is. I heard it straight out of my own Doctor’s mouth. They push pills on their patients. I know, because 10 years ago I was on 7 different meds that turned out, I didn’t need to be on. Also, one of my sister in laws IS a pharmaceutical rep. Or as we all call her … “ a drug pusher”. Just about every time I was sitting in a waiting room, someone from some drug company would walk in with a big fat “attaché” case and it was filled with sample pills for the Drs to give out and hopefully prescribe to their patients. I can’t believe you deny such facts. Omg ! I know different. You can keep lying like most Drs will do they don’t lose their license to practice but in fact, they make extra money on writing prescriptions. My sister in law makes money by selling these drugs to the doctors. I’ll bet you will deny that 25% of all chemo patients die from chemo before the cancer kills them. THAT is even on the CDC’s website. But I’m sure you’ll deny that too 😡
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus And Drs also lie on death certificates. My good friend, her aunt had stage 4 lung cancer and was in hospice care with morphine and just water nourishment. She “ suddenly” got covid and died a few days later. The ONLY thing on her death certificate was that she died from COVID. Not complications of COVID or died with having COVID. No. It said she died FROM covid. Such BS ! You Drs just need to STOP being so deceitful.
I have been pressured by a surgeon to have a surgery. When it did not take place, it turned out not to be necessary. I'm sure there are just overcautious surgeons, but I am also sure she was just trying to get me into the OR to get another surgery for her benefit, not mine.
This happens way too much. Especially hysterectomies, cholecystectomies, knee & hip surgeries, prostatectomies, cesareans etcare often done unnecessary.
@@beewest5704 yeah my friend had similar situation during her first born pregnancy. She was almost forced to get a CS. When she investigated that doctor is known to “advise” his patients to undergo that procedure. My friend had a natural delivery.
I was asked a thousand times why I was not willing to get a hysterectomy….I didn’t need one, I needed a referral to PT for tendinitis that I never got.
I think there are also surgeons of the 'if all I have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail' type. It might not even be greed, but just a tendency to err on the side of trying to resolve issues by performing surgery.
Exactly why I rarely go to the doctor. Recently went for a physical and had labs drawn. My cholesterol was a little high but nothing to be concerned about. Doc immediately pushed statins along with 6 immunizations. I told him no on the statins and no on all shots except tetanus because of my work. He basically turned into a jerk. Not once did he ask about my diet and nutrition. I told him I'm going to change the way I eat and I'll be back in 3 months for new labs.
Same my doctor gets furious went I do not comply. Offered me statins in my 30's. I am well informed about them and the serious side effects that they will just diagnose as another affliction and treat you for that when it is the stains that cause it. I am also well informed about the cholesterol scam. They bring these numbers lower and lower over the years allowing them to dole them out to greater numbers of people. It is the same for blood pressure, what used to be considered normal is now considered high. Total scam system.
After a surgery, I had a Dr walk into my room, look at my chart for 10 seconds and walked out and the next week I got a $500 bill from that Dr for “treatment”. 😠 I refused to pay it. I got injured at work and insurance companies will tell you that just going to a Dr is considered “treatment”. Ridiculous !
I was in rehab, recuperating from a stroke. One dr thought I "might be in pain", & prescribed Vicodin--I'm deathly allergic to it! He *never* bothered to read the notes in my chart.
when i first started as a nurse student it blew my mind all the things you had to do, then I realized yea the nurses are fast, but they're also skipping a lot of things in a similar way described in the video with the physical exam.
@@nomadiavan6560 I've been in and out of hsopital for years following botched surgery. In all that time I have never seen a doctor or nurse looking pressured, not onced. They saunter about with nothing to do, laugthing between themselves and at the patients
@@youubik I spent 17 years as an RN. People thought I was calm but I definitely was not. 15 years after retiring I still have nightmares. I worked in nursing homes. So maybe that is the difference.
As a patient, I was really glad one of my doctors was ADHD. I am bipolar, and I feel that his mental condition allowed him to understand what it's like to have a mental illness. We had good rapport and good understanding. I learned a lot from him. I have a mental condition. 1 out of every 4 people is affected by mental illness. I have a good idea how to live with a mental condition, and I can help others. I think doctors seeking mental help are able to help people because of their experience.
There was a teacher in my grad program. I was her favorite. She later became my mentor. She did something unethical that bothered me and I looked the other way. Actually I kinda found a work around and rolled with it, but I didn't do anything about it. A couple years later she did something unethical again. I reported her to the program and to the university. There was a panel put together to hear the case. All female, all faculty, all internal. No males, no students, no one outside the program. Basically her lunch buddies. They banned her from ever being a mentor, which she never was again. A slap on the wrist. A few years later she was promoted to department head. Instead of terminating her, they terminated the administrator who sided with me. A different department head. I did myself out of hookups but I did what was right and that is a sacrifice and a price few are willing to pay for their own integrity.
I am a nurse of 38 years. My husband had caner and was treated. When it came back we went back to Stanford and I and my family were told there wasn't a problem that my husband would live 100 years. The pet scan wasn't visible but he claims he read it. Bottom line surgery had to be done. The cancer spread and when lymph nodes resected the one node that was positive busted open and the out of 76 resected only one positive. The one positive when Dr. Told us all was good. Got told when he died that they were sorry that he slipped thru the cracks.
So sorry this happened. Nurse too. Medical neglect is relabeled slipping through the cracks. Neighbor had lung cancer was told no worry 100 % curable . Took the cancer meds then weeks later died.
5 months after being diagnosed with lupus, my dear grandmother died in the icu. We'd trusted her specialist and gave her all of the drugs, he'd prescribed and followed his orders, 100%. The icu nurse angrily, told my mom & I that she'd never even heard of such extremely high doses of steroids over such a long period. She told us that is indeed what killed our loved one. My mom demanded to speak to that dr. The honest nurse relayed that he'd fled his lucrative Pa. practice and ran off to California just that morning. I see constant iatrogenic incidences among family, friends, neighbors. Experienced horrors, myself. Dropped out of nursing school after seeing....terrible injustices. Could never be accomplice to anything bad that calls itself good. Safe, gentle, effective natural medicine is all but outlawed.
Per a comment below I also noticed that #9 was not on the list which is patients are lied about by doctors... Why they lie in a patient's chart is beyond me but it's happened to me on numerous occasions and then causes me difficulty with other physicians and specialists. It blows my mind as to what they think they're gaining by doing such a thing. And there's rarely a recourse for the patient as it's our word against the physician.
Never had that done to me by any of my primary care providers until these last two while searching to establish care with a new one. The first one was a 500 pound land whale who couldn't pay attention to what she was doing for which could have cost the loss of something very important to me, so she played the victim and put her narcissistic raging office manager to deflect, scream at me on the phone, wouldn't let me talk as blameshifted and accused me of what they were doing. Last week the other psychopath spun his own nararrtive without ever bothering to look at my records, listing any of my more serious conditions and made accusations without any proof (nor in any of my records) for included a plethora of his own personal passive aggressive opinons. The fat pot belly pig with the double chin (nico gum under his lip) and admitted smoker shouldn't be throwing rocks at glass houses.
You said a mouthful, honey. Docs who obviously don't take their own health advice, lecture/nag patients with similar issues, and don't factor In all the patient's. variables... (sigh)
This describes my mom. She's a sociol worker but not emotionally stable at all and physically abuses her family cuase her bipolarism. I personally think she needs to be committed not dealing with mentally ill youth.
Sure, but most of all I'd rather see a doctor who doesn't need them and isn't on them. If I'm going to be vulnerable to someone and require medical treatment, I want the person with the clearest mind and the strongest constitution. The choice isn't between "Doctors who need meds and don't take them" and "Doctors who are mentally ill but are under treatment." There's also the doctor that isn't mentally ill.
Blunt, honest observations from a true healer who cares for patients and mistreated, overworked resident doctors pushed to mental illness by lack of sleep and stress in an exploitative healthcare system. While she calls out doctor greed in upcoding, please see Glaucomflecken's video, Happy Bonus Day, about United Healthcare CEO who made $140 million in 2021. The video highlights his $12 million bonus. US healthcare needs to change. US needs to switch to Japan's universal healthcare (since 1961), with all non-profit health insurance companies, non-profit doctors' offices and non-profit hospitals. No pre-authorizations by insurance companies, no claims denied. The price of every procedure, drug and hospital stay is negotiated every two years between five doctors from Japanese Medical Association and Japanese Health Ministry. That price is binding for the whole country. Rates are low, but doctors see many patients and make upper middle income. Thousands of non-profit health insurance companies, all billing and payment thru a centralized government agency. Emphasis on primary care. Best result in the world: oldest longevity, very low infant mortality rates. Patients pay 30% co-pay on doctors procedures up to a low maximum, so there are no medical bankruptcies. Children and poor elderly pay a lower co-pay. All fee-for-service for doctor visits, per day rates for hospital stay based on diagnosis. 2/3 of doctors graduate from public medical schools which is six years after high school at a cost of $35,000 total. Free our doctors from immoral medical school debt average of $200,000. US healthcare system needs massive overhaul. Emphasis on patients, then providers. Stop prioritizing for-profit health insurance companies, price-gouging pharmaceutical companies, and large hospital chains with their overpaid administrators.
Pretty delusional to think America will shift into a single payer system like other countries. 20% of this country is employed in healthcare field, cutting healthcare spending necessisates cutting jobs. Which congress rep is going to want to herald mass job losses for their district? More realistic to push for stronger public option IMO
Ive personally been treated like crap from doctors, and have given up getting medical help since ive been put in debt and had noting done for me. I have no confidence in the medical system at this point. I went from doctor to doctor for a while before I turned 21 while I had free insurance, and could only get one to reconize I had a broken rib. Ive also had dentist do stuff they decided to do mid way through working on my mouth, then walk out for a hohr after drilling the enamel off of my front teeth then walking back in later.
Which logically speaking is a fallacy as you are making your statement based upon generalization. As a result, your are just stating a disjunctive claim.
@@C3yl0 False. I am making my statement based upon specific examples -- including but not limited to -- the "10 ways doctors lie" article cited here. 1960's vs. 2022. Very many other examples exist throughout other parts of our sad society of America. The "Big Lie" and the denial of the January 6 Insurrection of the U.S. Capitol are yet more lies.
Thank you! I got my ER reports from the past few years just recently. Front page was 10+ yrs ago. I'm still very sick, they see my front page, they judge me and make me worse. I have so many things wrong with me but choose to hate me when I become mentally unwell because of my inability to eat/digest/tolerate food to be comfortable and healthy. I HAVE NO INSURANCE. The Drs hate me because of this. I could go on......
Thank you, Dr. Cellini, for giving a forthright presentation of what goes on behind the scenes with physicians attempting to give the best care they can give, or NOT giving it by bowing to a system which rewards falsehood
Once, I had a large cyst the size of an egg removed from near my spine in the hospital. The patient next to me had a mastectomy. Later, I learned our medical records were switched! She was on Medicaid, which pays less than Medicare/Medicaid, which was my insurance. It took 3 - 4 visits to billing at the hospital to get it straightened out, but practically forever at the surgeon's office! I kept at it until the surgeon's office straightened it out (with the help of the Medicare/Medicaid fraud department) because I did not want misinformation in my medical records and it wasn't fair to the taxpayer. Thank G_D I had that conversation with the patient next door!
The problem I have with the fifteen minute appointment is that doctors want to do all the talking. I used to teach professionals a social activity -- dancing -- and teachers, doctors and lawyers were always the worst listeners.
I think the problem is more a time issue and they need to move things along so no time for extended conversation. I’m not excusing it but this is the healthcare Americans repeatedly choose to accept because socialism bad😱
I have seen my medical records and itemized billing and it’s really outrageous. One doctor I had as a family care doctor had a phobia about germs so he rarely touched his patient during an exam. Still, the bill would have codes for weight counseling, tobacco cessation intervention, skin cancer screening and so on. In practice, it was you should try to eat healthier and exercise more. If you smoke, stop. A quick look at the skin as an afterthought and suddenly multiple services were completed. I think that’s one reason many drs dislike telehealth.
i had to take my wife to Advocate Christ hospital near Chicago on Christmas eve a few years ago for really bad flu, I overheard a veteran doctor just outside her exam area telling a new doctor to just prescribe most patients a norco, say there's nothing we can do for you, and send them home without actually providing any kind of reasonable healthcare. absolutely disgusting.
It happens to me every single time I go to the doctor... I just went to the doctor yesterday, and there's a whole history here but yesterday I was telling her about this pains I Have and have had for a few years now, they did a CAT scan and only looked at my organs and I told him it wasn't my organs, it felt like a few cysts... So she put a finger on the spot where the pain was and barely touched me and said oh I don't feel anything.. And she went on.. didn't even seem to care to address it but that's just one out of several several things... I have been treated so horribly for the last 10 years that it's unbelievable, I literally used to wake up yelling at them in the middle of the night because I was so upset about it, these doctors are evil as far as I'm concerned
As a pre med it's actually kind of encouraging me to hear about all these stories of the bad parts of medicine and residency. Hopefully this will mean that in the future when I have gone through the issues will have been addressed or at least started being addressed
Hey Conner, as author of article (cool how a doc just send me this video), I can assure you that most enter medicine without informed consent of the mental health wounds and assault to our ethics so truth helps us prepare for how to handle these difficult scenarios.
Things have been this way for decades, maybe centuries. It's not going to change in time for you. Or for my now old age when I need the best medicine can offer. It is and will be the worst. I have lost faith in the medical field and our corporate health care system is why. I want free access to euthanasia rather than end up being used to make money for others.
In the past, Duke residents were on call every other night and did not get the next day off. They were then told that the problem with every other night call was that the resident was missing half the cases! Even though there are rules in place, the mentality still prevails.
I will never forget when I detected something off of a former doctor of mine, something was amiss. I almost asked him what was wrong in his life but figured it was none of my business. A couple of months later he retired, three months later he passed away as a result of pancreatic cancer. I wish I could have done something to help him, after all he had done much to help me.
I had a doctor sanitize my medical record after he nearly crippled me. This happened during Covid. The practice had only one door open and closed circuit TV. I got the recordings showing me in a wheel chair. I walked in, and could not walk out. He wrote in the medical record that the procedure went without issue. That video recording was my proof that he “fixed” the record. His office did reach a settlement with me after I got a lawyer.
One who I'd gone to see was recording both appointments and if you were discharged for recording them, then they actually did you a big favor and showed you who they really are. Psychopaths lack empathy and are without a moral compass, conscience and integrity, so therefore they don't like knowing that there could exist any proof or evidence out there for which exposes and hold them accountable for their shady and unethical behavior. If you you reside within within a one party state, then you don't need their permission nor to tell them they are being recorded either.
Ask for your medical records or download them from your providers’ website. Especially before your follow up appointment. Once they realize that you’ve been doing so, they’ll either be truthful with you or come up with an excuse for doing so,(like checking your labs just before they come into your room and telling you that they and their cohorts feel like you have cancer). We understand they don’t want to jump the gun on something like this but come on and be truthful with us right out the gate what it is your looking for. Some of us are scared so we do our homework
My psychiatrist took the same medication as he prescribed us and that made him the best psychiatrist ever. He also openly advertised his condition and all the help he receives for from his entire holistic team. He was walking the exact same path as his patients. His son also had the same condition. He understood all your issues before you could bring them up and focused heavily on educating us. He was the most human and realest doctor I've ever had, a true expert in every way at what he treats. Sadly he passed away. He left us with amazing tools to manage our own mental health and lives outside of him. We continued to see him even though he equipped us to be independent of him because he was always learning and educating us as walking our journey with us. A doctor's lived experience with a condition can be very valuable to patients and (within reason) they should not be penalized for being honest about it. With the hectic lives we all live, everyone's mental health takes a hit from time to time.
That goes for nurses and CA's too I know a nurse who was struggling with depression and anxiety. She happened to mention it to her nurse manager and made a comment that some times she wished she just wouldn't wake up. Her nurse manager reported her and she was suspended from work until she got a therapist and saw a psychiatrist. The bad part was there was a 6 month waiting list to get in with a therapist and psychiatrist and she wasn't being paid for that time. She fought it and after a couple months they let her come back to work but, it stressed her out even more and she said she will never mention it again to anyone she works with.
Regardless of your occupation anyone can feel that way in this crazy world that we are living in. Everything is upside down and abnormal,very unsettling to say the least!
I appreciate your integrity in sharing this article and helping the public grasp the pressures put on doctors to almost be clairvoyant, given an absurd fifteen minute maximum to do an accurate diagnosis on a patient. Physicians are putting their medical license, health and personal lives on the line to work in 80hr.+ sweatshop conditions. Hospital CEOs make million dollar salaries by cracking more product and generate revenue from understaffed doctors. Doctors are brilliant people that are bullied into not showing weakness, tolerate the indignities of top-down directives from health executives who themselves are often non-physicians. We deceive ourselves into believing that doctors are all given the time and resources to provide the medical care they want to give their patients. I am grateful for humans that head their calling to take the Hippocratic Oath.
There is nothing “brilliant” about letting a system run all over you and abuse you. And therefore your patients. If docs spoke out and if docs really cared about patients, they would all be marching in the streets in protest and refusal to play this corrupt game. And they would definitely call out the plandemic corruption in no uncertain terms. Not feeling the “brilliance”.
All my doctor's ask me if I'm seeing a neurologist (and who) for my myasthenia gravis - don't talk to me about how it's doing or how it's impacting me - just am I being treated - and then code for MG. This is true for my other chronic health problems. It's always shocking to me to see that they addressed multiple problems when all they did was ask if I was still seeing my specialist. All my doctor's do it - and what happens - is everyone thinks someone else is handling things that never get handled.
One of the easiest ways to avoid upcoding is to refuse the temperature check or, when young, getting a blood pressure check. The coding protocol literally doesn't allow upcoding if either of these items were missed, which are usually obtained by a nursing assistant. You have a right to refuse the checks especially if they are not relevant to your care.
Doctors near retirment might also skip some details. In the last years of his work, i told my doctor i had severe pain when pooping. I told my doctor over 7 years. He said it was normal. Sweating while pooping and almost passing out was not normal. Turns out im severly lactose intolerant. Found out by myself. Got pregnant, told him what i found out and changed doctor.
I think she has covered the most glaring lies and these aren't even limited to physicians. Virtually anyone with a doctorate ends up having to lie as part of the cost of doing business. I think it can be a lot more serious, with physicians, since lives are on the line, but I've been told to lie, by employers, throughout my working life. It's either meet the quota or hit the road. It takes a tremendous toll on our physical and mental health.
it gets pretty bad when doctors want help you. I have chronic pancreatitis even if I go to the hospital they want even admit me because I don't have insurance. I've been in the hospital 8 times last year.
Im sorry you still have to deal with this. My family has had its own struggles with not having health insurance as well. Our experiences are proof that the current system does not work and is designed to serve people with more money over those with less.
number 7 is true, depending on the patients intelligence, if a person who is actually healthy but goes for a check up, and the doctor thinks, hmm i can do a small surgery on him, getting a few bucks, he is healthy, the surgery cant go wrong on a healthy person, you are just gonna damage his health, even if you damage him a lot, you gonna say its because of the disease... this is disgusting, to ruin someones health, because of money, this is the worst a doctor can do, its written in the hyppocratic oath - first and foremost - do not harm
“the doctor thinks hmm…. ?” How do you know what the doctor thinks? Which doctor? There are enough real accurate issues of concern that it’s not helpful to just spew made up information and speculation. It’s not even anecdotal! 🤦🏻♀️Please learn how facts work 🤦🏻♀️
Note on work hours. Emergency med is the only specialty that has a 60hr work week limit. Due to the intensity of the work. I typically work 40hrs a week on average as an EM resident.
My son is in the hospital the doctors come look at him for one second and say no change don’t check nothing it so much going on with lies in this hospital and other things I can’t say smh
I'm almost 75. since 2001 I've seen 2 physicians. In 2005 I needed a clean bill of health for a new job. In 2016 I had some symptoms, that caused my friends to insist, I see a Dr. Various tests showed, my heart was fine, but the Dr. wanted to put me on Statin drugs and a Cpap machine. I refused all of it. Here I am in good health, not overweight and still getting my 12 to 25 miles walking in every week (depending on the elements) 😊😊😊
Michael, Am excellent topic to cover. As a 40+ year R.N. I have seen this over and over, to many times to count. Thank you so much for presenting to people who have no idea that this is going on. Best regards from your SEC neighbor, Deleen Alley, Birmingham,Al. Oh congrats on your school 's National Championship last January In the Alabama vs. Georgia game! I am such a Bama fan and you are a great Bulldog fan! Go Dawgs!
Roll Tide! I also live in Birmingham, Alabama. I am a patient in several speciality clinics at UAB. Dermatology, rheumatoidology, infectious disease, orthopedics, wound care, neurology and primary care. I joke that maybe one day UAB will give me a badge and put me on payroll. I show up there so much.
A year and a half ago I was told by 10 different doctors that I must have the equivalent of a transplant operation immediately. Strangely, not one of them asked me how I was feeling when they walked in the room. I had no pain whatsoever. I rarely even burp. And I still have no pain. I walk a mile a day, sleep and eat well. I can work 10 hours a day, and have made 12 quilts the past year. Still can't figure this out. ?????
My sister worked with MD's for over thirty years in many settings. She told me they are the most unethical immoral profession out there. I found this to be true in a most horrific manner. Criminals among that group are very hard to catch especially sexual preditors.
My dad was a surgeon and maybe they’re different. But I worked decades in dentistry and saw a ton of horrible corrupted dentists and dental practices. It’s really hard to find a good dentist.
I saw a POS for the first time last week for which he was immediately fired after reading the after visit notes to find that not had he left out all my most vital medical history/concerns, but spun presumpptous narrative without proof for which included his psychopath passive aggressive personal attacks and lies intended to make me look bad. He also had the audacity to put in there something about sending to psychiatry for which I immediately called to file grievance complaints and told them that the huge belly and double chin hypocrite with double standards (admitted smoker w/nico gum under the lip) shouldn't throw rocks at glass houses and perhaps ought to go seek psychiatry for himself. Later on while reading his reviews there was one found stating that both he and his nurse where child predators.
@6:19 I used to work for an eminent mental health NHS trust in London (as a pharmacy professional) and we had a consultant psychiatrist that purely dealt with Doctors mental health problems. SLAM was a great trust to work for and I felt very privileged to work for them.
imo, "up-coding" is nowhere near as bad as the medicalization of "pre-conditions" (e.g., pre-diabetes). If insurance companies don't cover specific procedures, then it makes sense to code specifically for that patient to get a fair reimbursement (easier than negotiating). To me, this video highlights the absurdities within the healthcare and educational systems that lead to situations where doctors are perceived to be "liars" (excepting the false confidence narrative, which to a certain extent is true for everyone that holds a doctorate).
I don't understand why physicians can't simply enter their notes, diagnosis, etc. and not have to also do Medical Coding. Medical coders are trained and paid to code, they can't treat patients. Medical coding is a billion dollar industry and US hospitals have businesses such as Omega Healthcare, Alexander Health and Vasta Global conduct a significant portion of coding of your patients' visits and billing work in India. Wages for Medical Coders and Coder trainees in India reduce the cost that such companies and hospitals pay Medical Coders in the United States. The US DOJ has and is coming down hard on with fraud charges against hospitals and providers for up-coding. Only some get caught, but a staff doctor has much to lose for coding errors or deliberate false entries just to go along.
I used to audit doctor and hospital charting and coding. Most doctors didn't do their own coding though. The hospitals and private practices usually have someone who does the coding, at least in California.
@@rosarioc.debaca1935 I completely agree with you. However, the coding is a result of the diagnosis, procedure, hospital stay, etc. I wasn't referring to the medical coders, only the healthcare providers that cared for the patient. My take on "up-coding" (not fraud), was that if a patient's insurance won't cover certain procedures, then the options are: have the patient pay out of pocket, recommend another clinic, or place them in debt (possibly life-altering debt). So, the alternative might be to employ different procedures that are covered (e.g., low-dose CT scan vs. full body CT scan; for lung cancer screening), and to discuss this with the patient prior to the procedures, although in emergency situations this is not an option. Ultimately, what the insurance provider will cover (which determines where you can go for healthcare; public vs. private) and what the patient needs are often times not in agreement. Thus, it seems ethical to code for procedures that are covered, as long as you are providing the best care possible without creating a financial burden. For lack of a better example, that could mean performing two or three procedures that are covered, rather than one "gold-standard" procedure that isn't covered. I'm sure in many cases it is difficult to know this beforehand. It wouldn't surprise me if every specialty experiences this to a different degree.
I recently had reconstructive surgery and I absolutely despise the surgeon. Every time I told him something I was concerned about, he blew me off and he definitely told me things I know weren’t true.
The lying on death certificates happened with my grandmother. The doctor gave my grandmother Amoxacillin+... (Augmentan combination drug basically), and told her to take some at home. She did. Her Tommy hurt(I think it may be due to intestinal obstruction??/sepsis caused by catherization). Since at the hospital when they my aunts took her back there, she was given a bunch of new antibiotics(a load ton), and so I think she got sepsis. It's sad. I think he placed the cause of death:heart attack or whatever. And the hospital was trying to cover it up by constantly performing Covid19 tests in order to blams her death on covid 19, but it kept turning negative(and they made us pay for the covid test when she clearly took 2 already, and they want to do a 3rd one within a day of the other 2). Hospitals be dumb. But, we didn't press charges since the doctor she got treated by is a far relative(and has been treating her for decades although he slipped up this time and killed her and lied about)
I went to the doctor, they didn't do a full physical (I'm 30, I haven't had a physical in 10 years, kinda thought it was time for a full one) but I got billed for it. I had to go back for a blood draw which they said they couldn't do the first time because somebody left early. So I scheduled the second visit and went back 2 weeks later. Then I get a bill for $400 for a visit where they only drew my blood and still didn't do the full exam, but did provide me with the information they should have provided during the previous exam about a diagnosis they made during the previous exam. Insurance company didn't want to pay for two physicals. I know billing is BS, I'm also a healthcare provider. But seriously?
One lie that really shocked me was that a doctor I knew lied about having the minimum experience for anaesthesiology, she needed I think 6 months and she actually had 2. I don't know if she got the job, but I was really concerned she could do such a thing.
Growing up, I was always told to be a doctor or a lawyer. No mention of helping people attached to the message, it was always said that "they are rich" and that was that.
It's true about the upcoding. I used to find myself charged for two visits when I was younger, (in my 50s) I spent a lot of time contesting those bills.
Very enlightening! As a person with mild mental health issues, I would prefer to have a doctor who has had mental health treatment. I know my psychotherapist had many years of psychotherapy before being licensed. I think we are getting better as a whole, but we need to keep fighting against the stereotype of mental illness!
This was an excellent video, and one that I feel was very accurate. Having worked in health care for some 30 years I could relate to many of the scenarios you mentioned. On a more personal note, some 20 or more years ago I sat on a jury for a medical malpractice case. I was honestly surprised they chose me in the first place, but they did. It was an urology case with a procedure that resulted in incontinence. The main issue of the case was whether the doctor informed the patient prior to surgery of this possibility or not. The doctor insisted he did inform the patient, and it was documented in the medical records. The patient insisted otherwise. We found in favor of the doctor. Many years later, I had what I believe was this very same procedure done. No incontinence in my case. However, I did get a copy of the urologists report to my doctor, in which he mentioned that he explained in detail the possible side effects of this procedure, one being incontinence. I can say without a doubt no such conversation took place. The doctor's report was obviously printed from a template, and some of the precise wording was found throughout the report. It was interesting to note also that in the jury trial, the doctor had two other lawsuits after this one, and he eventually forfeited his license. As I look back on this after many years, I feel that we as a jury made a wrong decision in this case, but it is one of those gray areas where it would be hard to prove either way. But one thing I know is the doctor in my case did not exactly tell the truth. And I suspect the court case may have been similar.
My psych doctor was a Vietnam vet and went ape sh@t when he got cancer from agent orange and had to be taken down by a swat team.. fortunately he got the help he needed
I've had numerous docs over time because of moves and our chaotic Charlie Foxtrot insurance system. I'm probably one of the worst patients a doc can have - one who does their homework and knows when they are BSing me.. I started doing this in the 80s, when I had the privilege of working for a highly competent physician. (I often accompanied him to transcribe his observations and as 3rd party observer, protecting both him and the patients, mostly him, JIC). My last physician; who I lost because my husband died and I had to move, was interestingly objective, intelligent and refreshingly candid. Now I have overworked professionals at an old people clinic my Insurance steered me toward who make HIPAA errors and have little time. I feel cheated.
During covid no hospitals were open. No one was allowed to see a doctor if they had any sympthoms of a cold. Hospitals and md offices was empty. Norway
You forgot one of the lies doctors tell their patients - when I was first diagnosed with diabetes, no matter what I ate or how much exercise I did, I could not bring my blood sugar down. It was in the mid 400’s - I was miserable with it being that high. I had just read an article in a magazine about how “chromium picolinate” can bring sugar levels down naturally. I asked my doctor about trying it. He looked me straight in the face and said that article was a bunch of 🐴 💩 - that there was NO way Chromium Picolinate would help bring blood sugar down. Since I was desperate to find help I didn’t completely take his word for it. I asked my pharmacist (that I had been going to for 10 years) about it ….he leaned in, looked to his left then to his right (to make sure no one heard him) and whispered “that’s what “they” want you to believe, but they’re lying ….it really DOES work!” I can NOT express how angry I was when I found out that a doctor that I had been going to for decades,and trusted, looked me in my eyes and LIED to me with NO problem ….KNOWING how sick I was! And yet, he didn’t care! Do doctors get kickbacks from big pharma for pushing their medicines?
Violation of ethics (veracity--truth). Patients have a right to know their condition as it really is, treatment options and prognosis. Once a doctor lies, trust (fedelity) is thrown out the window, and may even lead to a lawsuit.
Sounds like integrity is the first thing to go for doctors and lawyers among others. The entire atmosphere is being ruined by an overly severe backlash, an unhealthy, and unrealistic standards vs requirements.
As an engineer, I have enough science behind me to sense a doctor not being truthful. I am not the type to remain silent. I usually begin by using a steelman argument. I say this while looking the doctor squarely in the eyes, "As a doctor, you are a scientist. As such, I expect nothing but the highest scientific integrity from you. Can we begin again?"
Correction, physicians are not scientists. They are just people rewarded for having good memories for obscure parts of the body that they soon forget. They attend a very difficult vocational school to become medical doctors but don't confuse them with scientists.
@@stbaz You certainly are confident, but you are still quite wrong. Why don't you use this fancy new thing called the internet and see what classes are ACTUALLY involved with medical school. It is also INCREDIBLY obvious that you have never stepped inside a science lab yourself.
@@Kenjiro5775yeah fuck you buddy. I’m constantly fucked by the VA, and I’m 75% civil engineer degree wise and 100% electrical engineer. Guess what? The definition of an engineer can be summed up in being a “practical scientist.” We utilize our field specializations (like doctors) by bridging the theoretical to what’s useful for everyday life, and importantly financially reasonable. And every engineer does a cost benefit analysis regarding, quite literally, the cost of a human life as compared to whatever we are working on (esp. civil and mechanical engineers). I can 100% say with confidence I am trained enough in your sham of a field to know when you’re using coded language to call me crazy or generalize my very personal conditions to the point where they can be construed as that or something totally unrelated to what’s going on. Fuck off, go learn math.
@@stbaz I understand science pretty well. Having a masters degree in mechanical engineering means I know what I talking about. You are talking out your greasy ass.
I have noticed all these things as a Pharmacist and as a human who was misdiagnosed for years. I suffered all my life and wasn't diagnosed correctly until I was 48. I have been told to fake it till you make it in the past. I would go to my family practice doctor and they would do a CBC which would come back normal and I would just figure I must be crazy and just suffer in silence. I would have pain and night sweats that would interrupt my sleep every night. It would cause me to have bouts of depression. I would research my symptoms and think it might be this or that but I never wanted to tell my doctors out of respect for their profession. I never wanted to tell them what to do or how to treat me until I could no longer take the pain and suffering . One night after a 13 hour shift where I only got to sit when I used the bathroom, I came home and started typing up every medical problem my relatives had and every medical problem I could remember myself having or had heard from my parents I had had. I made an appointment with the only rheumatologist I had ever visited and faxed him the medical history. I made an appointment with him and went in to see him and for the first time I said to a doctor " I think I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome" as I stretched the skin on my neck. He hits his forehead with the heel of his hand and confirmed what I said. I had never just asked for pain medication because I knew I would not be able to be on them and work. I had previously tried gabapentin, and pregabalin for migraines but they made me so stupid I could not function as a pharmacist. I went into a healthcare field because I wanted to help people not to put them at risk. A few years after this I had to cut back on hours at work because of pain, my back started to have debilitating lower back pain. My internist recommended a back doctor, after taking some X-rays he said I needed a fusion. I told him I have EDS and he said the back surgery should help. I arranged 3 months off for recovery. The day before the surgery, I was waiting for his office to call and tell me what time I should come to the hospital. They called and told me the surgery was called off because of my EDS. I was in so much pain and now what I hoped would fix things vanished. My internist didn't know what to do so he sent me to the pain specialist in his office. She just threw opiates and gabapentin at me. It ended my career. I would not work compromised. The pain was intolerable. The pharmacy manager told me to just work while on them and I would not do that for what I think were obvious reasons. My life became a nightmare. Being home I discovered my husband was cheating. He became cruel because I wasn't paying all the bills. He had a job. I used up my money in savings to pay bills and my husband became cruel and verbally abusive. I got divorced but that didn't help my worsening depression. Thankfully I never liked debt and had payed off my home and car. My fear of being seen as doctor shopping helped in ending my career. I saw the opiate crisis before, during and after.
Yes it happens in Britain too.No point in relating my experience but it happens here too.I think it's important for people to know this but I didn't pre-internet.It's good that people can be warned now.I wish I had been.
Maybe I have a more unique view… I had health issues since I was a baby and I’m now 47. I became a licensed medical coder in 2000, prior to entering a 2 year surgical assistant program then going into 4 year degree with end goal being to become a PA via Emory University. Add to that my mom owned her own medical billing company after working for a military hospital and several hospitals in Atlanta. Now my oldest daughter has her Bachelors degree in business and now wants to go into a program to become a physical therapist. My youngest just finished a two year business degree and wants her end goal to be a radiologist. There’s a reason we’ve all gone through the business/admin side first before getting into various healthcare roles. The things mentioned in this list and the fact that it’s such a status quo in this country also explains why medical/pharmacological mistakes are more lethal than the diseases we expect to see on that list. Everyone knows this crap goes on but few have the spine to stand up and demand change. Demand to get proper education, proper training, follow guidelines. Because right now, it seems like a field where the two things constantly rising/improving involves money and lives damaged or lost entirely.
I am in Eugene where Pam Wible is living. She is amazing and has done so much to work with providers’ mental health. Nurses and doctors who start out in a line of work caring for people are so cruel to one another
I know to be extremely wary and recently had a medical emergency. Was in a small hospital er and admitted for a week. Much to my surprise the Admitting Dr, the nurses and every other person affiliated with tests and down to cleaning staff were wonderful! Kind and respectful of wishes. I hope as I inevitably have to pursue more care and surgery for my issue that I will continue to be blessed by good people. Praying!
Yep. I had a small growth, benign growth in my colon. First surgeon wanted to remove half my colon. I looked up the nccn guidelines and it didn't qualify. I fired her. Second surgeon agreed but wanted to remove at least my cecum. I found a surgeon that could remove it like an advanced colonoscopy and he did. The second surgeon came back and said the growth could cause problems, but I had to remind her it was already remove. ( WTF? ) She said, "oh yea, you are right I guess." I am now fearful of the medical system.
Hi, I just want to say that your comment opened a new door for me. I checked out the NCCN site and it is truly a powerful website for information on many cancer types (I bookmarked it). For clarity, may I ask if the guideline you mentioned was rectal cancer and the procedure was polypectomy? Also, it was awesome that you were brave and knowledgeable enough to question the surgeons' treatment and found the best option for you.- Just a student interested in medicine.
It appalls me when I hear things like this. As medical professionals, you surely know of the studies done on people who work extended hours without rest breaks, those who are sleep-deprived, etc. I would hate to be a patient whose medical care was compromised by a person assumed to be a medical professional, alert and capable, who in reality was a sleep-walking zombie whose compromised capabilities resulted in harm to me or my loved ones.
I went to a dr on a referral, and the chart /referral info from the referring dr had incorrect info so I was correcting the dr about what kind of injury and surgery I had. And the dr I was sent to goes “excuse me ma’am, why would the referring dr lie?” I was like umm bc he’s human and humans make mistakes? And then he said he wouldn’t see me and I’d have to go somewhere else. It was so weird. I went to my car and cried bc I felt like I had done something wrong. But i was in my early 20s, and quite ignorant about the world and people in general.
Did my residency before the work hours rules so we all knew resistance was futile. Even residents with valid complaints were not infrequently asked if they wanted to graduate the program. Very likely nowadays anyone complaining about and.or reporting abuse of work hours would meet retaliation and or threats of being ejected from the program.
Or experience forced drugging . . . Another resident shares, “Since starting medical school I have known one neurosurgery resident that died in a car crash due to fatigue, one of my former classmates died from an overdose of fentanyl, a resident at a hospital I rotated at died by suicide by leaping off the parking structure, and, just a few weeks ago a resident at the hospital where my wife works died by suicide by gunshot wound. Reading your article was like cold water in my face, particularly the following part. ‘If they violate work hours (by caring for patients), they can be forced to lie on their time cards or be written up as inefficient and sent to a psychiatrist for stimulant medications.’ I was a surgical resident who struggled with lack of sleep in a program which eventually was put on probation due to duty-hour violations, though we were bullied into lying about our hours. Any violations were our fault, not the program’s. I was picked on by a more advanced resident, and the program director sent me to Employee Assistance Program because he thought I was the source of the problems. They sent me to a psychologist who diagnosed me with ADD. He sent me to a psychiatrist, who added bupropion and methylphenidate to my escitalopram. I ended up not having my contract renewed in the end.” (Page 58 Human Rights Violations in Medicine: A-to-Z Action Guide)
@@PamelaWible I would have thought the work hours rules had at least solved the sleep deprivation part of it but I see the rules are more a paper tiger. I wonder by what % the sleep deprivation has been reduced from the old days not just on paper but in actuality? During my residency years I had to focus 100% eating, living and breathing in a hospital. Though it can seem insurmountable somehow you become organized and efficient-proficient to the point of being able to function (don't ask me how) Time off was too precious to use for making videos for youtube though the internet did not exist then. I don't recall so many suicides while I was training. Anyone considering a career in medicine should shadow a resident and get an idea of the schedule and lifestyle, and not a dermatology resident.
I am only touched by my dermatologist or Gyn who actually do patient care. All others stay on the computer not even looking at me. I have been a nurse 45 yrs. So I know exactly that EMR and it's demands no patient care.
I remember sitting in class after super hard exam and everyone pretended that they did not study or studied little bit "on the lunch break at Chipotle". I felt guilty and super dumb that I had to study all days and nights. Now I understand that everyone does, but everyone try to pretend that their life is super easy and happy and they are super talented and born knowing everything about organic chrmistry
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As someone with multiple chronic illnesses, saying "i don't know" actually increases my faith in their competence, because I and many others have had so much harm done through doctors (even fake) overconfidence. If I know you're humble enough to admit you don't know, i can tell you're more likely to actually read up on the symptoms,, diagnostic criteria, treatments etc and are more likely to actually listen to me.
I agree entirely as a fellow chronically ill person.
you are not the only one to think that.. As a physician, I sometimes tell people that they need to tell me when they think i’m doing something wrong. I tell them that their life is too important to be quiet or too polite, and I will not be too proud or too sensitive to hear what they say. I also tell them that we work as a team. I always get great praise from patients when I say it. Because I mean it..
@@chrisp5526 here’s an example of me at 17 years old trying to explain to the pediatric cardiologist that I’m concerned about bouts I chest pain I get. The doctor disagree that I have pain. “i have chest pain episodes for an hour where I have to breath shallow and I have to lie flat” -me at 17 years old after being diagnosed with an 1st degree av block. “You just have to poop you aren’t feeling pain” -the pediatric cardiologist. “No it really hurts it’s like barbed wire getting tighter and tighter every breath” -me “well 1st degree av block is symptomless so actually you aren’t. You just have to poop” -the cardiologist “i don’t think that it” -me “alright your good to take this medication that requires me to clear you to take” (to cover your neurologist bc your heart rhythm on your ekg was irregular. Now your neurologist cant put you on this med legally without have me a cardiologist clear you. Bc this med has a history of causing heart issues in people with heart conditions. But if I just ignore it and never leave a record of your chest pain say your irregular heart rhythm , that’s diagnosed based on the symptoms not just the ekg, then me and the neurologist are covered in the case your suffer an adverse reaction or die)
@@Groovygal2026 Pain is a very subjective thing, that truly exists, and can be very difficult to treat. I empathize with you. Unfortunately for many people who have no pain, it is difficult to understand how debilitating it can be to have any type of pain, daily. It truly can cause depression and anxiety, and I would wish it on nobody.
@@wogaboga9480 I’m a veteran, too. That is just terrible what happened to you. Doctors like that give VA hospitals/clinics a bad name. The same happens at none-VA places, too. So it’s always hit or miss.
I hope you found the care you need.
I applied for VA jobs, but none were available at my locations, and they did not give privileges of hiring to vets, with me being told the rule of hiring vets when available does not apply to a professional job. I love taking care of vets. I am lucky and I receive amazing care at the vet VA clinic I attend. And the providers truly care.
I was telling a friend about all the doctors I've seen over the last 3 years and how they've done absolutely nothing, there's no accountability whatsoever. She put it best, it's criminal!
Criminal and cultish says it all. Their professional associations cover for them. If u are mistreated in anyway, get ur butt to a independent medical attorney.
i agree . Docters lie.
I’ve experienced this too, over the last 15 plus years! No more doctors for me! Going holistic now. It’s a disgrace and they are doing it to themselves!😡
A lot of them are butchers and don’t care. They’re not listening to the patients. And they’re supposed t. We need to file class action suits and use the courts to change this fast and if need be file charges of criminal negligence and attempted malpractices
Doctors have become incompetent, apathetic and lazy-Often shielded from accountability by arbitration clauses patients have to sign to be serviced through H.M.O's. so they don't make referrals up the chain to specialists & order tests that they should.
It's utterly incomprehensible that people who are making life & death decisions are being forced into a model that makes them so sleep deprived that they can't tell left from right.
It's because most doctor visits are practically useless. Most of it is the body self-healing, when they mess up the patient dies.
Totally agree!
It’s disgusting. It’s one of the things that’s making me consider quitting premed.
The vast majority of health care provider mistakes are made by someone who has been working for longer than 8 hours. That's why most other developed countries limit the hours healthcare providers can work.;
With a system like Single Payer, (government acts as insurance company--doesn't own hospitals or clinics), a single entity is taking care of the patient all the patient's life.
So spending a little more early on to prevent huge costs later is incentivized.
Our system is the only for-profit, unregulated system that I know of. Since the insurance company won't have to pay for the expensive treatment or surgery caused by denying care now, there is no incentive not to deny the care.
I started medical school in 1979. Many older physicians described working many fewer hours in residency than I was working. Many hospitals hired extra interns so that they had enough intern staff to work a night shift for a couple of months a year which meant that the day shift physicians usually were able to go home.
Then in the early 1970's a federal judge ruled that residents and interns were not employees. He claimed they were "trainees" and that workplace health and safety laws did not apply to medical students or residents. The hospitals went to town squeezing more work (and thus more profit) out of the residents and medical students.
The profit model should not be used to run systems that people absolutely need. If you can't pay for a new couch, well, that's too bad, but it won't kill you.
If you can't pay for needed health care--that can kill you.
You can also be killed by the mistakes caused by lack of sleep and overwork.
Our current system in the US is only good for CEO's like Dollar Bill McGuire who received 10 billion in compensation over 10 years as the CEO of United Healthcare. You have to deny a lot of people a lot of care to take $10 billion out of a healthcare system.
I routinely worked 120 hours per week in my residency. I saw so many residents making terrible mistakes. I was so afraid that I would be too tired to do a good job and because of fatigue, harm someone, that I developed major depression. 25% of internal medicine residents suffer a severe episode of major depression during internship according to the research of Jan Fawcett, MD, at the University of Illinois medical school in Chicago.
Yove bought into the propaganda ... the is no more indolent profession than the medical profession
I have a friend who actually gave birth on ther lawn outside the ER doors. Afterwards, she was admitted and the baby was taken to the nursery. When the bill came, it included charges for the labor and delivery rooms. Her husband took it to billing to protest, demanding, "What is this, greens fees?" Those charges were dropped.
Is this true? It’s so crazy it CANT be a lie 😂 if it is true I hope your friend and baby are ok and if it’s not true, what a whopper dude
@@HeatherHolt It's absolutely true. She and her baby were fine.
This sounds like someone in billing misunderstood the situation, hah.
@@AuxCart No, I think they just say, "she had a baby, here's the usual charges." The funky thing is, her mother was sent home from the same hospital, got as far as her driveway, gave birth with her husband attending, and went back to the hospital to make sure everything was okay. Both women had really, really fast labors. Me too, but I actually made it into the hospital for mine.
You’re lying…..
Every time I read my notes in my chart from my doctor or hospital visit, they are lying about something. It’s crazy!
Same here with primary. Can't even get them to correct misdiagnosis or even take a proper "resting" Blood Pressure.
Yea same here they said I use pot which i don't
Our medical system is so disturbing. There is no oversight for corruption or inadequate physicians. Patients are left to investigate their doctor’s backgrounds and hope he can be trusted. They are not Gods! Patients need to be diligent and get involved in their care.
This man is a terrible doctor....
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Investigation can only go so far. Also blame the Hospital as they also know the good and bad.
Preaching to the choir, dear. I look for the docs who aren't mediocre or borderline incompetent, after years of numerous docs whenever I had to change insurance, moves et al.
Universal Healthcare is the answer, evidenced by a plethora of successful countries
I'm a Ped RN and afraid of the adult healthcare system. I'm at the age of needing care, and am shocked at how differently adult drs treat their patients including writing you off at a certain age. It's called age appropriate care, which means at a certain age, I guess they don't really care.
That makes me very afraid 😮
Honestly the truth in that is very sad, and it holds true through most doctors throughout healthcare. It's very sad to see
Im not shocked. A doctor I didnt gel with wrote some colorful comments about me way back in the 1970s. Every doctor I have seen since then has introduced themselves to me then said "I see you can be a handful". How the heck are you supposed to build a relationship concerning very serious health issues (cancer, heart failure) after that introduction?
I think that age is around 74
@@brandonmcglocklin9040 Go to a consigliere doctor. It costs about 150-300 per month and you get good care.
The cruelest lie is chemotherapy where, except for a small number of specialized cancers, there is virtually no increase in life expectancy with these horrible treatments worse than torture.
Exactly 💯
@@thejay3804 My doctor has been hassling me for 20 years about going for cancer screenings I don't need or want, it's all about the billings, everything they want you to do is about money and their incentives. I have read extensively about practice operations, statins, SSRI's and therapies for cancer. I have known most of my adult live that I would not accept these toxic and carcinogenic therapies. Your cancer has spread, really? How about that it is actually secondary cancer after treatments with carcinogenic toxins?
Back in the old days you got a physical every time you went to the doctor. Doctors have found ear infections, tonsillitis, bronchitis and twice pneumonia that i didn't even know I had. I just felt bad for way too long and reached out for help. A relative of mine went in for an annual check up and ended up being rushed to the hospital. Turned out he was having a heart attack at that moment. His doc had heard his heart dozens of times and this was not right.
But now it's rare to get even a basic physical. You usually go in and talk.
Doctors, I promise you, you're missing important things by skipping this vital step. You've been well trained to catch things that average people don't even recognize as symptoms. Behave like it.
But THEY DONT CARE!
I had a follow-up visit April 2016 after a bad bronchitis attack that a) caused me to faint at work and b) taught me not to drink even a glass of wine while on Prednisone found me back in the hospital - a fib.
@Vociferon A diagnosis is made primarily by history with a physical adding little to the diagnostic process thus the boom of the telemedicine industry.
A target exam for specific systems is warranted. An annual exam is helpful. But an exam on every visit for low risk patients just means you will be waiting hours for a doctor who is hours behind performing unnecessary exams.
How long ago was this. Im 57 and never had one. Not that I'd want 1.I like when my dr. checks my blood pressure and my heart. I get blood work every 6 months and EKG once a year
Perfect for me.
I'm a prime example of no heart problems registered on an EKG when I visited my heart doctor. Added to that, I never felt I was having a heart problem. My doc suggested I get an EKG device from Amazon. Using the data I supplied, the doc was able to get Medicare to allow a procedure.
I’ve been an RN for over 40 years and can attest to this stuff. Unfortunately the profit drive in US healthcare is making it all worse.
The rationed healthcare method in Canada has similar issues. Now with MAiD expansion we can expect to see wait times expand further, and assisted dying being promoted (incentivized/pressured on) to patients as an alternative to declining health and pain while waiting for care/treatment.
@@michaeldayman682 I have been following this practice and I know that people who are in financial difficulty and have a physical disability are offered MAID as a solution to their problem. On woman, former military in wheelchair had her rent jacked up and she could not pay nor find new affordable housing, solution....? Now they are also going after the organs too while the deed is done, appealing to your virtue. People actually agree and have their organs assessed before their date with sanctioned assistance. I have read the entire sordid history of donation and if others did they certainly would not offer their loved one's up for this procedure. The whole system is predicated on fabrications.
I had a Resident tell me that her medical training taught her to be able to function as a sociopath.
I noticed the same in my residency. You either don't care about the patients or our don't care about yourself and your family.
I wonder what percentage are on adderall
Especially in the psychiatric field !
@@gyrocat303I'm on methylphenidate. I've used D-amphetetimine salts. I'd trust a doc taking them over one whose AD is untreated.
Oh shit !!
A few years back when I actually went into the patient portal for my GP for the first time, I was shocked. The notes from each visit were super long and all lies. None of what was said was done was actually done.
I was waiting in the exam room for my cardiologist. I read my file while I waited. I was shocked to see that a strangers tests were mixed in with mine! I have an extremely common name but the other person lived in a neighboring town! When I pointed out the error to the office staff all they would say was "Youre not supposed to be reading that". I have a very serious heart condition + AFib + COPD + Cancer! I dont want someone elses tests and medical notes affecting the care I should get! That doctor left that office, I followed him to the Cleve Clinic. He said he was unaware of the incident.
I get charged for a visit every time they call me on the phone to change an appointment or if a call them for a refill. It costs my insurance what amounts to thousands for a literal 1 minute telephone convo.
Wow I’ve never even seen them add anything to my file
They can charge for many things that don't help. I'm large, so if they say I should lose weight, they bill for weight management, when all they say is I'm fat, not how to manage it.
I had a gaslighting physician put into patient files and chart that I had my annual mammogram and breast exam and charge my insurance for them.
I’m a breast cancer survivor with no breast, so no mammo…
I didn’t notice it until I had already changed physicians because I was so very very sick of being sick and sicker of her being so condescending about it.
I was diagnosed with a rare autoimmune disorder and we stopped my medication during my cancer treatments. Then insurance changed my provider. And this lovely know it all was so upset when I asked for a referral to a specialist to update my medications she stated that But “ you don’t have this, why do you think you have this….”. It should be in my chart, I’ve literally always had this and this and this and she said well that was “ the other medical team” I don’t have THOSE charts.
Wait what?
Three months later with a different physician and and a specialist and they’re like…what she did was criminal, it’s medical neglect to knowingly and intentionally leave a patient to be without necessary treatment and medication.
Why…why would I lie about a diagnosis I’ve had for decades?
I actually liked her and we got along well even though she lied about my visits and medications oddly enough. But it was after she realized I was part of a different medical hospital before that she must have been rejected from the residency program or something, I went to that residency program, my mother retired as a critical care nurse, my dad retired from surgery.. so maybe I either intimidated her or she just hated them.lol
I love a honest answer from a doctor, we had a bit of a medical mystery with my oldest son. The doctor was open about not being able to give us answers. He sent us to a few specialists while still looking for answers on his own. Hin and the specialists worked together to find us answers. We finally got a Diagnosis. I have alot of respect for that doctor and now drive a hour and half to see him because I refuse to lose such a great doctor if we don't Absolutely have to
Who’s the doctor and where? I need a doctor I can trust. I have really bad health anxiety
@@uuloveguccii4729 don't think there are many good ones anymore
Doctors are bone idle lazy slobs
@@uuloveguccii4729 Why worry? You will eventually die, no matter what you do.
Yes there are some great ones out there both doctors and surgeons but you have to search and vett them good and yes it’s worth driving or traveling far to see if they are that honest and good.
When I had my c-section, nurses would walk into my room, set something down and charge my insurance without ever asking me if I needed that item. Don't let hospitals take advantage of you and be your own advocate.
Be an advocate for universal health care like me! We need this reform! NOW!
@@ursulasmith6402are you backwards? 🤔 Universal health care makes this problem *worse*
@@alexpeters7987really? How so?
@@taurus-queen8066it creates scarcity that drives up costs.
@@taurus-queen8066also results in exceedingly long wait times for care.
I had a dentist who told me he only did very basic routine procedures. He drew the line at like root canals. He basically was trying to avoid anything that would cause the patients too much pain. He knew that the suicide rate for dentists was abnormally high and he wanted to avoid the misery typically associated with the occupation. He was still pretty young-under 40-and was in great shape, went skydiving, skiing, and took at least 1 or 2 vacations each quarter. He had a girlfriend but wasn’t married, no kids. His golden years would probably look very different from his peers but that might be a good thing. He was always very happy and very low stress. I’d like to see more professionals living like this in our society.
Why is the suicide rate among dentists so high then? This is the first I ever hear of this!
@bioold8925 google it...info is all over the map. Many reports state dentists have the highest suicide rate of any profession, others say there is no difference. As to reasons, there is only subjective data, nothing objective. I imagine it wears a person down if their customers hate them, hate having to see them, and if you are inflicting pain on people all day every day. I don't know anybody who looks forward to or claims to enjoy going to the dentist.
I had one great dentist and he said none of us have any business doing root canals and they should only ever be done by a specialist. I would never have another one as I have since learned they can be detrimental to the heart. You have to find honest assessments of some practices. many non specialized dentists do root canals, $$$$$
@@GusMac-kv7zi I've had 6. I inherited bad teeth.
My late husband and I had a GP who never hesitated to say,"I don't know". His next words were usually, "But I'm referring you to someone who does". He also never minded if we did our own research. Once my husband was worried about an upcoming surgery, and begged me to look into alternatives. I discovered some very interesting information that actually pointed to a less invasive treatment that had a better success rate. My brother-in-law had the surgery and got worse. My husband, with his GP's agreement, had the alternative treatment, weathered recurrences of the condition, and cost Medicare a heck of a lot less.
And when they don't know what's wrong with you, some of them recur to that old nugget: "It's all in your head". That is one of the worst forms of gaslighting there is.
Number 3 is soooo spot on though. I work for the billing dept for several hospitals. It’s crazy how easy I personally can mess up costs. But it’s sad because 90% of doctors make up the codes and add extra things and we wonder why money is such a big deterrent from getting medical help
90% is a bit much don’t you think!
Your medical coders and/or auditors need to do a better job of not letting inaccurate claims go out, then.
We go to a local little clinic for certain things. After several years of an hsa plan where we had to pay for our services my job switched to a ppo where I have a 15.00 copay. I went to little clinic and so did my son. Paid the 15 and kept getting billed. Turns out they were billing at the level of a specialist. My insurance company figured it out and had it fixed. I wondered how many times they did that before and we just paid it because we had no idea what the codes meant.
And say when Dr and hospital see some sorts of SUPER well paying insurance, they do add unnecessary tests. Fact.
We had to prescheduled appointments with our kid to an orthopedic specialist. 2 appointments with 2 sets of x-rays, 1 cast and cast removal and 1 brace given (that was all that was done in 2 appointments) came up to 12k. I nearly lost my mind. They were sending bills in portions exactly 2 months apart. For over a year after. Each time claiming it was the last bill. But in 2 months we were getting another one with even more ridiculous charges. For example, the brace, which on the manufacturer's website was $34 and $39 on amazon, they charged us $1,198. A simple wrist brace. They charged for fitting of the brace. While they just brought one and simply put it on. As my 9 year old was doing at home by herself many times after. The appointment was a separate charge, doctors consultation was a separate charge, the use of the room for the appointment was a separate charge, x-ray separately, tech that performed x-ray billed separately, cast separately, tech that put on the cast billed separately and so on. 2 years past I am still scared to get another made up bill. FYI, all bills were paid upon receiving. Their explanation - they turned out to be a non-profit clinic and we are paying the cost for procedures for ourselves and for those who cannot afford it. So simple. We were referred there from the ER.
My surgeon lied on my chart. I logged into the patient website after surgery and he dictated that he went over my surgery and listed the risks he supposedly told me about in detail. He told me NOTHING. I didn’t even know I was going to be under general anesthesia. I knew nothing about my surgery and he didn’t volunteer any information.
What surgery is done WITHOUT general anesthesia? 😏
@@cjhoward409 epidural...
@@tesstess3371
That’s for C -Sections. I’m talking other surgeries.
But, if they’re leading you into the operating room, and you haven’t gotten an epidural, wouldn’t you think a smart enough person would ask, “umm, how are you going to knock me out so I don’t feel when you start cutting into my flesh?!” 😂
It’s the patients responsibility to ask questions especially if the Dr isn’t giving much info
@@cjhoward409
The responsabity is on the patient?
Normally patients do not know anything about medical stuff and thr responsability is on the doctor to give indepth information.
How can a patient ask the right questions, if he/she has no clue?
I ask questions, but then i get brushed of. So, asking questions do not work either and so on.
It is a nighmare. Better...never deeing a doctor and stay away.
You must have signed something. I’ve had many surgeries over the years and after my Dr has gone over everything, I’ve signed that page stating that in fact we discussed all of this. 🤷🏼♀️
I had a surgeon perform a surgery I did not need. Falsely diagnosed me with an issue. I was severely injured as a result. Harsh punishment needed for this crime
I went to Bassett in Cooperstown ny. They overdosed me on the ER and I stopped breathing. In the mean time they took me into the operating room and removed my appendix. Trouble is I had already had. It removed a few years earlier. When I told Dr , who was chief of surgery I had it out a few years earlier he said I should have told him that before the surgery. I was unconscious from the overdose. I was billed and had to pay for appendectomy anyways.
I have refractory epilepsy, and so many doctors have just brushed me off. I am guessing they were too busy to investigate further. I've had it since I was a child, and up until 4 years ago I'd have seizures daily, sometimes several times a day. About 9 years ago I got a neurologist who took the time to investigate, trying different things. Finally, she pushed a VNS through the Medicaid system. It took months to have the surgery approved but it's amazing how well it has worked. I've been seizure free for 4 awesome years. I have a life now, living alone, cooking, shopping, doing normal stuff without fear. Sadly, she retired in December. I've been waiting for months to see the new guy, I hope he's almost as good as she was.
My father in law went in for a small belly button hernia; a simple procedure to fix it. While in the hospital he got a serious infection. An attorney saw the medical records and could see things that had whiteout and written over; he was also given the wrong medication which caused an allergic reaction, and the record of that was also altered later to show that he originally given the “correct” medication
Disgusting
Third leading cause of D, iatrogenesis.
The same thing happened to a guy at my gym. He went for hernia procedure but end up with infection. They also vax him without his consent. Now he has some kind of blood clot on his legs and now he can't walk. He was a perfectly fit healthy guy.
This is why I will never set foot in The United States as a doctor. Extreme taxes, soul-draining work hours, forbidden from asking for help, the constant fear of being sued for absurd stuff... Nah, American healthcare is too messed up.
True and UK system horrific too.
Europe is bad on health care as well. Yet when compared to health care in third world countries!!!
True
It is not so bad in more rural settings. At least that is how it appears.
SO true about faking confidence. One day they are Medical Students and the next day they are Doctors and 1’st year Residents making life and death decisions on very little sleep. I worked as an RN for many years in a Level 1 ED/Trauma center. Patients really don’t want to know that they don’t have the experienced Doctor so residents fake their confidence. As experienced Nurses we would really have to watch order closely to ensure no one died 🤷♀️
....a nd guess who's to blame when the resident makes a bad call and the pilot-in-charge, the Attending Doctor, is nowhere to be found?
"The nurse should have caught that" amirite?
.........."the nurse should have caught that" amirite?
I had a primary doctor at one point who took it upon herself to "summarize" my medical records before forwarding a copy to another doctor. She had me living in states I've never seen, filling prescriptions that never existed, and all kinds of opinionated ideas about my medical history.
My new doctor threw it in the trash right in front of me.
It's a shame that I might have needed those records to be accurate for a variety of reasons and nothing would ever happen to her even if I could convince the state of her fraudulent activity. I have a wonderful PCP now and couldn't be happier.
Great video!
I agree 100% can't yell u how many times our doctors rush through your 4 min appt yet they dictate a full head to toe exam. When they never went pass the entrance of the door! Love u doctor!!
That's probably why the AMA Guidelines for 2021 and now 2023 don't include the history & exam in scoring E&M visits. It's either the level of MDM or total time on the date of service that determines what a provider should bill.
Why are you paying for services not rendered? You wouldn't do that at a store or restaurant, would you?
Ok mechanic living about air filter and lying and most people lying on CV are looking to work a desk job supporting the all of cheap consumer goods. They are not treating people medical condition. Equating them as the same is wrong.
My GP and good friend told me Drs make most of their money on pharmaceutical kick backs prescribing meds. She didn’t like to prescribe unnecessary meds. Explains why she was driving a 10 year old car. She was more into telling people to change their lifestyle versus taking a pill for it.
We do not get any pharmaceutical kickbacks. My paycheck comes from the hospital that hired me. No drug rep is going to force me to peddle their wares. I have never lied on death certificates either. Nothing good to be gained by veering off from the straight line.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus I was speaking directly about a general practitioner. Not a hospital doctor. And they do get money from pharmecutical companies every time they write a script.
@@cjhoward409 That is just not true. There are no kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies to privately practicing physicians.
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I’m sure most Drs won’t admit to it. But there is. I heard it straight out of my own Doctor’s mouth. They push pills on their patients. I know, because 10 years ago I was on 7 different meds that turned out, I didn’t need to be on.
Also, one of my sister in laws IS a pharmaceutical rep. Or as we all call her … “ a drug pusher”. Just about every time I was sitting in a waiting room, someone from some drug company would walk in with a big fat “attaché” case and it was filled with sample pills for the Drs to give out and hopefully prescribe to their patients. I can’t believe you deny such facts. Omg ! I know different. You can keep lying like most Drs will do they don’t lose their license to practice but in fact, they make extra money on writing prescriptions. My sister in law makes money by selling these drugs to the doctors. I’ll bet you will deny that 25% of all chemo patients die from chemo before the cancer kills them. THAT is even on the CDC’s website. But I’m sure you’ll deny that too 😡
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And Drs also lie on death certificates. My good friend, her aunt had stage 4 lung cancer and was in hospice care with morphine and just water nourishment. She “ suddenly” got covid and died a few days later. The ONLY thing on her death certificate was that she died from COVID. Not complications of COVID or died with having COVID. No. It said she died FROM covid. Such BS ! You Drs just need to STOP being so deceitful.
I have been pressured by a surgeon to have a surgery. When it did not take place, it turned out not to be necessary. I'm sure there are just overcautious surgeons, but I am also sure she was just trying to get me into the OR to get another surgery for her benefit, not mine.
This happens way too much. Especially hysterectomies, cholecystectomies, knee & hip surgeries, prostatectomies, cesareans etcare often done unnecessary.
@@beewest5704 yeah my friend had similar situation during her first born pregnancy. She was almost forced to get a CS. When she investigated that doctor is known to “advise” his patients to undergo that procedure. My friend had a natural delivery.
I was asked a thousand times why I was not willing to get a hysterectomy….I didn’t need one, I needed a referral to PT for tendinitis that I never got.
Likely because it was an easy and low risk surgery and doctors like to have a lot of successful surgeries under their belt, your wallet be damned.
I think there are also surgeons of the 'if all I have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail' type. It might not even be greed, but just a tendency to err on the side of trying to resolve issues by performing surgery.
Exactly why I rarely go to the doctor. Recently went for a physical and had labs drawn. My cholesterol was a little high but nothing to be concerned about. Doc immediately pushed statins along with 6 immunizations. I told him no on the statins and no on all shots except tetanus because of my work. He basically turned into a jerk. Not once did he ask about my diet and nutrition. I told him I'm going to change the way I eat and I'll be back in 3 months for new labs.
Same my doctor gets furious went I do not comply. Offered me statins in my 30's. I am well informed about them and the serious side effects that they will just diagnose as another affliction and treat you for that when it is the stains that cause it. I am also well informed about the cholesterol scam. They bring these numbers lower and lower over the years allowing them to dole them out to greater numbers of people. It is the same for blood pressure, what used to be considered normal is now considered high. Total scam system.
After a surgery, I had a Dr walk into my room, look at my chart for 10 seconds and walked out and the next week I got a $500 bill from that Dr for “treatment”. 😠 I refused to pay it.
I got injured at work and insurance companies will tell you that just going to a Dr is considered “treatment”. Ridiculous !
I was in rehab, recuperating from a stroke. One dr thought I "might be in pain", & prescribed Vicodin--I'm deathly allergic to it! He *never* bothered to read the notes in my chart.
when i first started as a nurse student it blew my mind all the things you had to do, then I realized yea the nurses are fast, but they're also skipping a lot of things in a similar way described in the video with the physical exam.
like what ... sniff around the doctors ... talk to the other nurses ... collect you pay ... abuse the patients
@@youubik You have no idea the pressure nurses work under.
@@nomadiavan6560 I've been in and out of hsopital for years following botched surgery. In all that time I have never seen a doctor or nurse looking pressured, not onced. They saunter about with nothing to do, laugthing between themselves and at the patients
@@youubik I spent 17 years as an RN. People thought I was calm but I definitely was not. 15 years after retiring I still have nightmares. I worked in nursing homes. So maybe that is the difference.
@@nomadiavan6560 On the whole I found the medical profession to be a bad lot, if there was no medical profession I'd be healthy today
As a patient, I was really glad one of my doctors was ADHD. I am bipolar, and I feel that his mental condition allowed him to understand what it's like to have a mental illness. We had good rapport and good understanding. I learned a lot from him.
I have a mental condition. 1 out of every 4 people is affected by mental illness. I have a good idea how to live with a mental condition, and I can help others. I think doctors seeking mental help are able to help people because of their experience.
There was a teacher in my grad program. I was her favorite. She later became my mentor. She did something unethical that bothered me and I looked the other way. Actually I kinda found a work around and rolled with it, but I didn't do anything about it. A couple years later she did something unethical again. I reported her to the program and to the university. There was a panel put together to hear the case. All female, all faculty, all internal. No males, no students, no one outside the program. Basically her lunch buddies. They banned her from ever being a mentor, which she never was again. A slap on the wrist. A few years later she was promoted to department head. Instead of terminating her, they terminated the administrator who sided with me. A different department head. I did myself out of hookups but I did what was right and that is a sacrifice and a price few are willing to pay for their own integrity.
I am a nurse of 38 years. My husband had caner and was treated. When it came back we went back to Stanford and I and my family were told there wasn't a problem that my husband would live 100 years. The pet scan wasn't visible but he claims he read it. Bottom line surgery had to be done. The cancer spread and when lymph nodes resected the one node that was positive busted open and the out of 76 resected only one positive. The one positive when Dr. Told us all was good. Got told when he died that they were sorry that he slipped thru the cracks.
So sorry this happened. Nurse too. Medical neglect is relabeled slipping through the cracks. Neighbor had lung cancer was told no worry 100 % curable . Took the cancer meds then weeks later died.
I am so sorry for your lost.
5 months after being diagnosed with lupus, my dear grandmother died in the icu. We'd trusted her specialist and gave her all of the drugs, he'd prescribed and followed his orders, 100%. The icu nurse angrily, told my mom & I that she'd never even heard of such extremely high doses of steroids over such a long period. She told us that is indeed what killed our loved one. My mom demanded to speak to that dr. The honest nurse relayed that he'd fled his lucrative Pa. practice and ran off to California just that morning. I see constant iatrogenic incidences among family, friends, neighbors. Experienced horrors, myself. Dropped out of nursing school after seeing....terrible injustices. Could never be accomplice to anything bad that calls itself good. Safe, gentle, effective natural medicine is all but outlawed.
Per a comment below I also noticed that #9 was not on the list which is patients are lied about by doctors... Why they lie in a patient's chart is beyond me but it's happened to me on numerous occasions and then causes me difficulty with other physicians and specialists. It blows my mind as to what they think they're gaining by doing such a thing. And there's rarely a recourse for the patient as it's our word against the physician.
Reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld
Never had that done to me by any of my primary care providers until these last two while searching to establish care with a new one. The first one was a 500 pound land whale who couldn't pay attention to what she was doing for which could have cost the loss of something very important to me, so she played the victim and put her narcissistic raging office manager to deflect, scream at me on the phone, wouldn't let me talk as blameshifted and accused me of what they were doing. Last week the other psychopath spun his own nararrtive without ever bothering to look at my records, listing any of my more serious conditions and made accusations without any proof (nor in any of my records) for included a plethora of his own personal passive aggressive opinons. The fat pot belly pig with the double chin (nico gum under his lip) and admitted smoker shouldn't be throwing rocks at glass houses.
I'd rather see a Dr ON the needed mental health meds than see a Dr who needs meds but isn't getting them.
You said a mouthful, honey. Docs who obviously don't take their own health advice, lecture/nag patients with similar issues, and don't factor In all the patient's.
variables... (sigh)
This describes my mom. She's a sociol worker but not emotionally stable at all and physically abuses her family cuase her bipolarism. I personally think she needs to be committed not dealing with mentally ill youth.
So why do psychiatrist has the highest suicide rate?
If mental stress isn’t your cup of tea, then don’t get into the medical field!
Sure, but most of all I'd rather see a doctor who doesn't need them and isn't on them. If I'm going to be vulnerable to someone and require medical treatment, I want the person with the clearest mind and the strongest constitution. The choice isn't between "Doctors who need meds and don't take them" and "Doctors who are mentally ill but are under treatment." There's also the doctor that isn't mentally ill.
Blunt, honest observations from a true healer who cares for patients and mistreated, overworked resident doctors pushed to mental illness by lack of sleep and stress in an exploitative healthcare system. While she calls out doctor greed in upcoding, please see Glaucomflecken's video, Happy Bonus Day, about United Healthcare CEO who made $140 million in 2021. The video highlights his $12 million bonus. US healthcare needs to change. US needs to switch to Japan's universal healthcare (since 1961), with all non-profit health insurance companies, non-profit doctors' offices and non-profit hospitals. No pre-authorizations by insurance companies, no claims denied. The price of every procedure, drug and hospital stay is negotiated every two years between five doctors from Japanese Medical Association and Japanese Health Ministry. That price is binding for the whole country. Rates are low, but doctors see many patients and make upper middle income. Thousands of non-profit health insurance companies, all billing and payment thru a centralized government agency. Emphasis on primary care. Best result in the world: oldest longevity, very low infant mortality rates. Patients pay 30% co-pay on doctors procedures up to a low maximum, so there are no medical bankruptcies. Children and poor elderly pay a lower co-pay. All fee-for-service for doctor visits, per day rates for hospital stay based on diagnosis. 2/3 of doctors graduate from public medical schools which is six years after high school at a cost of $35,000 total. Free our doctors from immoral medical school debt average of $200,000. US healthcare system needs massive overhaul. Emphasis on patients, then providers. Stop prioritizing for-profit health insurance companies, price-gouging pharmaceutical companies, and large hospital chains with their overpaid administrators.
Are Japanese doctors required to go into residency after 6 years of medical school?
Pretty delusional to think America will shift into a single payer system like other countries. 20% of this country is employed in healthcare field, cutting healthcare spending necessisates cutting jobs. Which congress rep is going to want to herald mass job losses for their district?
More realistic to push for stronger public option IMO
Ive personally been treated like crap from doctors, and have given up getting medical help since ive been put in debt and had noting done for me. I have no confidence in the medical system at this point. I went from doctor to doctor for a while before I turned 21 while I had free insurance, and could only get one to reconize I had a broken rib. Ive also had dentist do stuff they decided to do mid way through working on my mouth, then walk out for a hohr after drilling the enamel off of my front teeth then walking back in later.
Lying -- blatant lying -- has become the hallmark of being American. Very sad.
Which logically speaking is a fallacy as you are making your statement based upon generalization. As a result, your are just stating a disjunctive claim.
@@C3yl0 False. I am making my statement based upon specific examples -- including but not limited to -- the "10 ways doctors lie" article cited here. 1960's vs. 2022.
Very many other examples exist throughout other parts of our sad society of America.
The "Big Lie" and the denial of the January 6 Insurrection of the U.S. Capitol are yet more lies.
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That's an interesting problem. You're being taught ethics are a big concern, but when you get into practice it's like "SCREW THAT".
Thank you! I got my ER reports from the past few years just recently. Front page was 10+ yrs ago. I'm still very sick, they see my front page, they judge me and make me worse. I have so many things wrong with me but choose to hate me when I become mentally unwell because of my inability to eat/digest/tolerate food to be comfortable and healthy. I HAVE NO INSURANCE. The Drs hate me because of this. I could go on......
Thank you, Dr. Cellini, for giving a forthright presentation of what goes on behind the scenes with physicians attempting to give the best care they can give, or NOT giving it by bowing to a system which rewards falsehood
Once, I had a large cyst the size of an egg removed from near my spine in the hospital. The patient next to me had a mastectomy. Later, I learned our medical records were switched! She was on Medicaid, which pays less than Medicare/Medicaid, which was my insurance. It took 3 - 4 visits to billing at the hospital to get it straightened out, but practically forever at the surgeon's office! I kept at it until the surgeon's office straightened it out (with the help of the Medicare/Medicaid fraud department) because I did not want misinformation in my medical records and it wasn't fair to the taxpayer. Thank G_D I had that conversation with the patient next door!
The problem I have with the fifteen minute appointment is that doctors want to do all the talking. I used to teach professionals a social activity -- dancing -- and teachers, doctors and lawyers were always the worst listeners.
I think the problem is more a time issue and they need to move things along so no time for extended conversation. I’m not excusing it but this is the healthcare Americans repeatedly choose to accept because socialism bad😱
Coding and billing is EVERYTHING!! Hire a specialist if you have to!! Will keep your pts happy and ensure optimal reimbursement as a practitioner!!
I have seen my medical records and itemized billing and it’s really outrageous. One doctor I had as a family care doctor had a phobia about germs so he rarely touched his patient during an exam. Still, the bill would have codes for weight counseling, tobacco cessation intervention, skin cancer screening and so on. In practice, it was you should try to eat healthier and exercise more. If you smoke, stop. A quick look at the skin as an afterthought and suddenly multiple services were completed. I think that’s one reason many drs dislike telehealth.
i had to take my wife to Advocate Christ hospital near Chicago on Christmas eve a few years ago for really bad flu, I overheard a veteran doctor just outside her exam area telling a new doctor to just prescribe most patients a norco, say there's nothing we can do for you, and send them home without actually providing any kind of reasonable healthcare. absolutely disgusting.
It happens to me every single time I go to the doctor... I just went to the doctor yesterday, and there's a whole history here but yesterday I was telling her about this pains I Have and have had for a few years now, they did a CAT scan and only looked at my organs and I told him it wasn't my organs, it felt like a few cysts... So she put a finger on the spot where the pain was and barely touched me and said oh I don't feel anything.. And she went on.. didn't even seem to care to address it but that's just one out of several several things... I have been treated so horribly for the last 10 years that it's unbelievable, I literally used to wake up yelling at them in the middle of the night because I was so upset about it, these doctors are evil as far as I'm concerned
As a pre med it's actually kind of encouraging me to hear about all these stories of the bad parts of medicine and residency. Hopefully this will mean that in the future when I have gone through the issues will have been addressed or at least started being addressed
Hey Conner, as author of article (cool how a doc just send me this video), I can assure you that most enter medicine without informed consent of the mental health wounds and assault to our ethics so truth helps us prepare for how to handle these difficult scenarios.
Things have been this way for decades, maybe centuries. It's not going to change in time for you. Or for my now old age when I need the best medicine can offer. It is and will be the worst. I have lost faith in the medical field and our corporate health care system is why. I want free access to euthanasia rather than end up being used to make money for others.
@@PamelaWible Yeah I look forward to being able to help create a day when doctors and nurses aren't abused for profit
lol nope
This shit is getting worse and worse. :)
Lol nah. Docs probably were fresh-eyed like you, then were broken after med school and residency and are seeing only green in their eyes.
In the past, Duke residents were on call every other night and did not get the next day off. They were then told that the problem with every other night call was that the resident was missing half the cases! Even though there are rules in place, the mentality still prevails.
I will never forget when I detected something off of a former doctor of mine, something was amiss. I almost asked him what was wrong in his life but figured it was none of my business. A couple of months later he retired, three months later he passed away as a result of pancreatic cancer. I wish I could have done something to help him, after all he had done much to help me.
I had a doctor sanitize my medical record after he nearly crippled me. This happened during Covid. The practice had only one door open and closed circuit TV. I got the recordings showing me in a wheel chair. I walked in, and could not walk out. He wrote in the medical record that the procedure went without issue. That video recording was my proof that he “fixed” the record. His office did reach a settlement with me after I got a lawyer.
I started recording my doctor's visits, but found out they hate it. So far 3 primary cares and 1 specialist have fired me as a patient.
One who I'd gone to see was recording both appointments and if you were discharged for recording them, then they actually did you a big favor and showed you who they really are. Psychopaths lack empathy and are without a moral compass, conscience and integrity, so therefore they don't like knowing that there could exist any proof or evidence out there for which exposes and hold them accountable for their shady and unethical behavior. If you you reside within within a one party state, then you don't need their permission nor to tell them they are being recorded either.
Ask for your medical records or download them from your providers’ website. Especially before your follow up appointment. Once they realize that you’ve been doing so, they’ll either be truthful with you or come up with an excuse for doing so,(like checking your labs just before they come into your room and telling you that they and their cohorts feel like you have cancer). We understand they don’t want to jump the gun on something like this but come on and be truthful with us right out the gate what it is your looking for. Some of us are scared so we do our homework
Love your comment on WNL !!! I am in health care for many years and never heard “we never looked “
My psychiatrist took the same medication as he prescribed us and that made him the best psychiatrist ever. He also openly advertised his condition and all the help he receives for from his entire holistic team. He was walking the exact same path as his patients. His son also had the same condition. He understood all your issues before you could bring them up and focused heavily on educating us. He was the most human and realest doctor I've ever had, a true expert in every way at what he treats. Sadly he passed away. He left us with amazing tools to manage our own mental health and lives outside of him. We continued to see him even though he equipped us to be independent of him because he was always learning and educating us as walking our journey with us. A doctor's lived experience with a condition can be very valuable to patients and (within reason) they should not be penalized for being honest about it. With the hectic lives we all live, everyone's mental health takes a hit from time to time.
Amen brother
The mental health conditions is very sad… police and firefighters face the same issue.
That goes for nurses and CA's too
I know a nurse who was struggling with depression and anxiety. She happened to mention it to her nurse manager and made a comment that some times she wished she just wouldn't wake up. Her nurse manager reported her and she was suspended from work until she got a therapist and saw a psychiatrist. The bad part was there was a 6 month waiting list to get in with a therapist and psychiatrist and she wasn't being paid for that time. She fought it and after a couple months they let her come back to work but, it stressed her out even more and she said she will never mention it again to anyone she works with.
Regardless of your occupation anyone can feel that way in this crazy world that we are living in.
Everything is upside down and abnormal,very unsettling to say the least!
I appreciate your integrity in sharing this article and helping the public grasp the pressures put on doctors to almost be clairvoyant, given an absurd fifteen minute maximum to do an accurate diagnosis on a patient. Physicians are putting their medical license, health and personal lives on the line to work in 80hr.+ sweatshop conditions. Hospital CEOs make million dollar salaries by cracking more product and generate revenue from understaffed doctors. Doctors are brilliant people that are bullied into not showing weakness, tolerate the indignities of top-down directives from health executives who themselves are often non-physicians. We deceive ourselves into believing that doctors are all given the time and resources to provide the medical care they want to give their patients. I am grateful for humans that head their calling to take the Hippocratic Oath.
you are forgetting that they're not even allowed to practice, ins companies dictate their worth :)
Pressures on doctors ?? Ha Ha Ha.
There is nothing “brilliant” about letting a system run all over you and abuse you. And therefore your patients. If docs spoke out and if docs really cared about patients, they would all be marching in the streets in protest and refusal to play this corrupt game. And they would definitely call out the plandemic corruption in no uncertain terms. Not feeling the “brilliance”.
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All my doctor's ask me if I'm seeing a neurologist (and who) for my myasthenia gravis - don't talk to me about how it's doing or how it's impacting me - just am I being treated - and then code for MG. This is true for my other chronic health problems. It's always shocking to me to see that they addressed multiple problems when all they did was ask if I was still seeing my specialist. All my doctor's do it - and what happens - is everyone thinks someone else is handling things that never get handled.
One of the easiest ways to avoid upcoding is to refuse the temperature check or, when young, getting a blood pressure check. The coding protocol literally doesn't allow upcoding if either of these items were missed, which are usually obtained by a nursing assistant. You have a right to refuse the checks especially if they are not relevant to your care.
Doctors near retirment might also skip some details. In the last years of his work, i told my doctor i had severe pain when pooping. I told my doctor over 7 years. He said it was normal. Sweating while pooping and almost passing out was not normal. Turns out im severly lactose intolerant. Found out by myself. Got pregnant, told him what i found out and changed doctor.
I think she has covered the most glaring lies and these aren't even limited to physicians. Virtually anyone with a doctorate ends up having to lie as part of the cost of doing business. I think it can be a lot more serious, with physicians, since lives are on the line, but I've been told to lie, by employers, throughout my working life. It's either meet the quota or hit the road. It takes a tremendous toll on our physical and mental health.
it gets pretty bad when doctors want help you. I have chronic pancreatitis even if I go to the hospital they want even admit me because I don't have insurance. I've been in the hospital 8 times last year.
Im sorry you still have to deal with this. My family has had its own struggles with not having health insurance as well. Our experiences are proof that the current system does not work and is designed to serve people with more money over those with less.
number 7 is true, depending on the patients intelligence, if a person who is actually healthy but goes for a check up, and the doctor thinks, hmm i can do a small surgery on him, getting a few bucks, he is healthy, the surgery cant go wrong on a healthy person, you are just gonna damage his health, even if you damage him a lot, you gonna say its because of the disease... this is disgusting, to ruin someones health, because of money, this is the worst a doctor can do, its written in the hyppocratic oath - first and foremost - do not harm
“the doctor thinks hmm…. ?” How do you know what the doctor thinks? Which doctor?
There are enough real accurate issues of concern that it’s not helpful to just spew made up information and speculation. It’s not even anecdotal! 🤦🏻♀️Please learn how facts work 🤦🏻♀️
Note on work hours. Emergency med is the only specialty that has a 60hr work week limit. Due to the intensity of the work. I typically work 40hrs a week on average as an EM resident.
...where the fuck kind of a unicorn infested place do you work!?!?! 40hrs?!!?! I want in!!!
As a premed I’m very surprised to hear that!
My son is in the hospital the doctors come look at him for one second and say no change don’t check nothing it so much going on with lies in this hospital and other things I can’t say smh
Thank you for standing up and speaking the truth
I'm almost 75. since 2001 I've seen 2 physicians. In 2005 I needed a clean bill of health for a new job. In 2016 I had some symptoms, that caused my friends to insist, I see a Dr. Various tests showed, my heart was fine, but the Dr. wanted to put me on Statin drugs and a Cpap machine. I refused all of it. Here I am in good health, not overweight and still getting my 12 to 25 miles walking in every week (depending on the elements) 😊😊😊
Michael, Am excellent topic to cover. As a 40+ year R.N. I have seen this over and over, to many times to count. Thank you so much for presenting to people who have no idea that this is going on.
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Roll Tide! I also live in Birmingham, Alabama. I am a patient in several speciality clinics at UAB. Dermatology, rheumatoidology, infectious disease, orthopedics, wound care, neurology and primary care. I joke that maybe one day UAB will give me a badge and put me on payroll. I show up there so much.
A year and a half ago I was told by 10 different doctors that I must have the equivalent of a transplant operation immediately. Strangely, not one of them asked me how I was feeling when they walked in the room. I had no pain whatsoever. I rarely even burp. And I still have no pain. I walk a mile a day, sleep and eat well. I can work 10 hours a day, and have made 12 quilts the past year. Still can't figure this out. ?????
My sister worked with MD's for over thirty years in many settings. She told me they are the most unethical immoral profession out there. I found this to be true in a most horrific manner. Criminals among that group are very hard to catch especially sexual preditors.
My dad was a surgeon and maybe they’re different. But I worked decades in dentistry and saw a ton of horrible corrupted dentists and dental practices. It’s really hard to find a good dentist.
I saw a POS for the first time last week for which he was immediately fired after reading the after visit notes to find that not had he left out all my most vital medical history/concerns, but spun presumpptous narrative without proof for which included his psychopath passive aggressive personal attacks and lies intended to make me look bad. He also had the audacity to put in there something about sending to psychiatry for which I immediately called to file grievance complaints and told them that the huge belly and double chin hypocrite with double standards (admitted smoker w/nico gum under the lip) shouldn't throw rocks at glass houses and perhaps ought to go seek psychiatry for himself. Later on while reading his reviews there was one found stating that both he and his nurse where child predators.
@6:19 I used to work for an eminent mental health NHS trust in London (as a pharmacy professional) and we had a consultant psychiatrist that purely dealt with Doctors mental health problems. SLAM was a great trust to work for and I felt very privileged to work for them.
imo, "up-coding" is nowhere near as bad as the medicalization of "pre-conditions" (e.g., pre-diabetes). If insurance companies don't cover specific procedures, then it makes sense to code specifically for that patient to get a fair reimbursement (easier than negotiating). To me, this video highlights the absurdities within the healthcare and educational systems that lead to situations where doctors are perceived to be "liars" (excepting the false confidence narrative, which to a certain extent is true for everyone that holds a doctorate).
I don't understand why physicians can't simply enter their notes, diagnosis, etc. and not have to also do Medical Coding. Medical coders are trained and paid to code, they can't treat patients.
Medical coding is a billion dollar industry and US hospitals have businesses such as Omega Healthcare, Alexander Health and Vasta Global conduct a significant portion of coding of your patients' visits and billing work in India. Wages for Medical Coders and Coder trainees in India reduce the cost that such companies and hospitals pay Medical Coders in the United States.
The US DOJ has and is coming down hard on with fraud charges against hospitals and providers for up-coding. Only some get caught, but a staff doctor has much to lose for coding errors or deliberate false entries just to go along.
I used to audit doctor and hospital charting and coding. Most doctors didn't do their own coding though. The hospitals and private practices usually have someone who does the coding, at least in California.
@@rosarioc.debaca1935 I completely agree with you. However, the coding is a result of the diagnosis, procedure, hospital stay, etc. I wasn't referring to the medical coders, only the healthcare providers that cared for the patient. My take on "up-coding" (not fraud), was that if a patient's insurance won't cover certain procedures, then the options are: have the patient pay out of pocket, recommend another clinic, or place them in debt (possibly life-altering debt). So, the alternative might be to employ different procedures that are covered (e.g., low-dose CT scan vs. full body CT scan; for lung cancer screening), and to discuss this with the patient prior to the procedures, although in emergency situations this is not an option. Ultimately, what the insurance provider will cover (which determines where you can go for healthcare; public vs. private) and what the patient needs are often times not in agreement. Thus, it seems ethical to code for procedures that are covered, as long as you are providing the best care possible without creating a financial burden. For lack of a better example, that could mean performing two or three procedures that are covered, rather than one "gold-standard" procedure that isn't covered. I'm sure in many cases it is difficult to know this beforehand. It wouldn't surprise me if every specialty experiences this to a different degree.
@@toottoot24, I greatly appreciate your reply, and time describing what you and other physicians navigate to treat patients.
I recently had reconstructive surgery and I absolutely despise the surgeon. Every time I told him something I was concerned about, he blew me off and he definitely told me things I know weren’t true.
The lying on death certificates happened with my grandmother. The doctor gave my grandmother Amoxacillin+... (Augmentan combination drug basically), and told her to take some at home. She did. Her Tommy hurt(I think it may be due to intestinal obstruction??/sepsis caused by catherization). Since at the hospital when they my aunts took her back there, she was given a bunch of new antibiotics(a load ton), and so I think she got sepsis. It's sad. I think he placed the cause of death:heart attack or whatever. And the hospital was trying to cover it up by constantly performing Covid19 tests in order to blams her death on covid 19, but it kept turning negative(and they made us pay for the covid test when she clearly took 2 already, and they want to do a 3rd one within a day of the other 2). Hospitals be dumb. But, we didn't press charges since the doctor she got treated by is a far relative(and has been treating her for decades although he slipped up this time and killed her and lied about)
I went to the doctor, they didn't do a full physical (I'm 30, I haven't had a physical in 10 years, kinda thought it was time for a full one) but I got billed for it. I had to go back for a blood draw which they said they couldn't do the first time because somebody left early. So I scheduled the second visit and went back 2 weeks later. Then I get a bill for $400 for a visit where they only drew my blood and still didn't do the full exam, but did provide me with the information they should have provided during the previous exam about a diagnosis they made during the previous exam. Insurance company didn't want to pay for two physicals. I know billing is BS, I'm also a healthcare provider. But seriously?
One lie that really shocked me was that a doctor I knew lied about having the minimum experience for anaesthesiology, she needed I think 6 months and she actually had 2. I don't know if she got the job, but I was really concerned she could do such a thing.
Growing up, I was always told to be a doctor or a lawyer. No mention of helping people attached to the message, it was always said that "they are rich" and that was that.
It's true about the upcoding. I used to find myself charged for two visits when I was younger, (in my 50s) I spent a lot of time contesting those bills.
Very enlightening! As a person with mild mental health issues, I would prefer to have a doctor who has had mental health treatment. I know my psychotherapist had many years of psychotherapy before being licensed. I think we are getting better as a whole, but we need to keep fighting against the stereotype of mental illness!
This was an excellent video, and one that I feel was very accurate. Having worked in health care for some 30 years I could relate to many of the scenarios you mentioned. On a more personal note, some 20 or more years ago I sat on a jury for a medical malpractice case. I was honestly surprised they chose me in the first place, but they did. It was an urology case with a procedure that resulted in incontinence. The main issue of the case was whether the doctor informed the patient prior to surgery of this possibility or not. The doctor insisted he did inform the patient, and it was documented in the medical records. The patient insisted otherwise. We found in favor of the doctor. Many years later, I had what I believe was this very same procedure done. No incontinence in my case. However, I did get a copy of the urologists report to my doctor, in which he mentioned that he explained in detail the possible side effects of this procedure, one being incontinence. I can say without a doubt no such conversation took place. The doctor's report was obviously printed from a template, and some of the precise wording was found throughout the report. It was interesting to note also that in the jury trial, the doctor had two other lawsuits after this one, and he eventually forfeited his license. As I look back on this after many years, I feel that we as a jury made a wrong decision in this case, but it is one of those gray areas where it would be hard to prove either way. But one thing I know is the doctor in my case did not exactly tell the truth. And I suspect the court case may have been similar.
Thank you for taking the time to tell your story. It gives a lot of insight into what happens behind closed doors.
My psych doctor was a Vietnam vet and went ape sh@t when he got cancer from agent orange and had to be taken down by a swat team.. fortunately he got the help he needed
I've had numerous docs over time because of moves and our chaotic Charlie Foxtrot insurance system. I'm probably one of the worst patients a doc can have - one who does their homework and knows when they are BSing me.. I started doing this in the 80s, when I had the privilege of working for a highly competent physician. (I often accompanied him to transcribe his observations and as 3rd party observer, protecting both him and the patients, mostly him, JIC). My last physician; who I lost because my husband died and I had to move, was interestingly objective, intelligent and refreshingly candid. Now I have overworked professionals at an old people clinic my Insurance steered me toward who make HIPAA errors and have little time. I feel cheated.
During covid no hospitals were open. No one was allowed to see a doctor if they had any sympthoms of a cold. Hospitals and md offices was empty. Norway
You forgot one of the lies doctors tell their patients - when I was first diagnosed with diabetes, no matter what I ate or how much exercise I did, I could not bring my blood sugar down. It was in the mid 400’s - I was miserable with it being that high. I had just read an article in a magazine about how “chromium picolinate” can bring sugar levels down naturally. I asked my doctor about trying it. He looked me straight in the face and said that article was a bunch of 🐴 💩 - that there was NO way Chromium Picolinate would help bring blood sugar down. Since I was desperate to find help I didn’t completely take his word for it. I asked my pharmacist (that I had been going to for 10 years) about it ….he leaned in, looked to his left then to his right (to make sure no one heard him) and whispered “that’s what “they” want you to believe, but they’re lying ….it really DOES work!”
I can NOT express how angry I was when I found out that a doctor that I had been going to for decades,and trusted, looked me in my eyes and LIED to me with NO problem ….KNOWING how sick I was! And yet, he didn’t care! Do doctors get kickbacks from big pharma for pushing their medicines?
Violation of ethics (veracity--truth). Patients have a right to know their condition as it really is, treatment options and prognosis. Once a doctor lies, trust (fedelity) is thrown out the window, and may even lead to a lawsuit.
Sounds like integrity is the first thing to go for doctors and lawyers among others. The entire atmosphere is being ruined by an overly severe backlash, an unhealthy, and unrealistic standards vs requirements.
As an engineer, I have enough science behind me to sense a doctor not being truthful. I am not the type to remain silent. I usually begin by using a steelman argument. I say this while looking the doctor squarely in the eyes, "As a doctor, you are a scientist. As such, I expect nothing but the highest scientific integrity from you. Can we begin again?"
Correction, physicians are not scientists. They are just people rewarded for having good memories for obscure parts of the body that they soon forget. They attend a very difficult vocational school to become medical doctors but don't confuse them with scientists.
@@stbaz You certainly are confident, but you are still quite wrong. Why don't you use this fancy new thing called the internet and see what classes are ACTUALLY involved with medical school.
It is also INCREDIBLY obvious that you have never stepped inside a science lab yourself.
@@Kenjiro5775 And obvious you don’t understand the difference between a medical doctor and a scientist.
@@Kenjiro5775yeah fuck you buddy.
I’m constantly fucked by the VA, and I’m 75% civil engineer degree wise and 100% electrical engineer. Guess what? The definition of an engineer can be summed up in being a “practical scientist.” We utilize our field specializations (like doctors) by bridging the theoretical to what’s useful for everyday life, and importantly financially reasonable. And every engineer does a cost benefit analysis regarding, quite literally, the cost of a human life as compared to whatever we are working on (esp. civil and mechanical engineers).
I can 100% say with confidence I am trained enough in your sham of a field to know when you’re using coded language to call me crazy or generalize my very personal conditions to the point where they can be construed as that or something totally unrelated to what’s going on. Fuck off, go learn math.
@@stbaz I understand science pretty well. Having a masters degree in mechanical engineering means I know what I talking about. You are talking out your greasy ass.
I have noticed all these things as a Pharmacist and as a human who was misdiagnosed for years. I suffered all my life and wasn't diagnosed correctly until I was 48. I have been told to fake it till you make it in the past. I would go to my family practice doctor and they would do a CBC which would come back normal and I would just figure I must be crazy and just suffer in silence. I would have pain and night sweats that would interrupt my sleep every night. It would cause me to have bouts of depression. I would research my symptoms and think it might be this or that but I never wanted to tell my doctors out of respect for their profession. I never wanted to tell them what to do or how to treat me until I could no longer take the pain and suffering . One night after a 13 hour shift where I only got to sit when I used the bathroom, I came home and started typing up every medical problem my relatives had and every medical problem I could remember myself having or had heard from my parents I had had. I made an appointment with the only rheumatologist I had ever visited and faxed him the medical history. I made an appointment with him and went in to see him and for the first time I said to a doctor " I think I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome" as I stretched the skin on my neck. He hits his forehead with the heel of his hand and confirmed what I said. I had never just asked for pain medication because I knew I would not be able to be on them and work. I had previously tried gabapentin, and pregabalin for migraines but they made me so stupid I could not function as a pharmacist. I went into a healthcare field because I wanted to help people not to put them at risk. A few years after this I had to cut back on hours at work because of pain, my back started to have debilitating lower back pain. My internist recommended a back doctor, after taking some X-rays he said I needed a fusion. I told him I have EDS and he said the back surgery should help. I arranged 3 months off for recovery. The day before the surgery, I was waiting for his office to call and tell me what time I should come to the hospital. They called and told me the surgery was called off because of my EDS. I was in so much pain and now what I hoped would fix things vanished. My internist didn't know what to do so he sent me to the pain specialist in his office. She just threw opiates and gabapentin at me. It ended my career. I would not work compromised. The pain was intolerable. The pharmacy manager told me to just work while on them and I would not do that for what I think were obvious reasons. My life became a nightmare. Being home I discovered my husband was cheating. He became cruel because I wasn't paying all the bills. He had a job. I used up my money in savings to pay bills and my husband became cruel and verbally abusive. I got divorced but that didn't help my worsening depression. Thankfully I never liked debt and had payed off my home and car. My fear of being seen as doctor shopping helped in ending my career. I saw the opiate crisis before, during and after.
I’m so sorry all this happened to you. I’m praying things are turning around for your good in all areas 🙏🏽
I’m so sorry all this happened to you. I’m praying things are turning around for your good in all areas 🙏🏽
Yes it happens in Britain too.No point in relating my experience but it happens here too.I think it's important for people to know this but I didn't pre-internet.It's good that people can be warned now.I wish I had been.
The uncanny parallels this has to the military
Maybe I have a more unique view… I had health issues since I was a baby and I’m now 47. I became a licensed medical coder in 2000, prior to entering a 2 year surgical assistant program then going into 4 year degree with end goal being to become a PA via Emory University. Add to that my mom owned her own medical billing company after working for a military hospital and several hospitals in Atlanta. Now my oldest daughter has her Bachelors degree in business and now wants to go into a program to become a physical therapist. My youngest just finished a two year business degree and wants her end goal to be a radiologist.
There’s a reason we’ve all gone through the business/admin side first before getting into various healthcare roles.
The things mentioned in this list and the fact that it’s such a status quo in this country also explains why medical/pharmacological mistakes are more lethal than the diseases we expect to see on that list.
Everyone knows this crap goes on but few have the spine to stand up and demand change. Demand to get proper education, proper training, follow guidelines. Because right now, it seems like a field where the two things constantly rising/improving involves money and lives damaged or lost entirely.
I am in Eugene where Pam Wible is living. She is amazing and has done so much to work with providers’ mental health. Nurses and doctors who start out in a line of work caring for people are so cruel to one another
I know to be extremely wary and recently had a medical emergency. Was in a small hospital er and admitted for a week. Much to my surprise the Admitting Dr, the nurses and every other person affiliated with tests and down to cleaning staff were wonderful! Kind and respectful of wishes. I hope as I inevitably have to pursue more care and surgery for my issue that I will continue to be blessed by good people. Praying!
Yep. I had a small growth, benign growth in my colon. First surgeon wanted to remove half my colon. I looked up the nccn guidelines and it didn't qualify. I fired her. Second surgeon agreed but wanted to remove at least my cecum. I found a surgeon that could remove it like an advanced colonoscopy and he did. The second surgeon came back and said the growth could cause problems, but I had to remind her it was already remove. ( WTF? ) She said, "oh yea, you are right I guess." I am now fearful of the medical system.
Hi, I just want to say that your comment opened a new door for me. I checked out the NCCN site and it is truly a powerful website for information on many cancer types (I bookmarked it). For clarity, may I ask if the guideline you mentioned was rectal cancer and the procedure was polypectomy? Also, it was awesome that you were brave and knowledgeable enough to question the surgeons' treatment and found the best option for you.- Just a student interested in medicine.
It appalls me when I hear things like this. As medical professionals, you surely know of the studies done on people who work extended hours without rest breaks, those who are sleep-deprived, etc. I would hate to be a patient whose medical care was compromised by a person assumed to be a medical professional, alert and capable, who in reality was a sleep-walking zombie whose compromised capabilities resulted in harm to me or my loved ones.
I went to a dr on a referral, and the chart /referral info from the referring dr had incorrect info so I was correcting the dr about what kind of injury and surgery I had. And the dr I was sent to goes “excuse me ma’am, why would the referring dr lie?” I was like umm bc he’s human and humans make mistakes? And then he said he wouldn’t see me and I’d have to go somewhere else. It was so weird. I went to my car and cried bc I felt like I had done something wrong. But i was in my early 20s, and quite ignorant about the world and people in general.
Did my residency before the work hours rules so we all knew resistance was futile. Even residents with valid complaints were not infrequently asked if they wanted to graduate the program. Very likely nowadays anyone complaining about and.or reporting abuse of work hours would meet retaliation and or threats of being ejected from the program.
Or experience forced drugging . . . Another resident shares, “Since starting medical school I have known one neurosurgery resident that died in a car crash due to fatigue, one of my former classmates died from an overdose of fentanyl, a resident at a hospital I rotated at died by suicide by leaping off the parking structure, and, just a few weeks ago a resident at the hospital where my wife works died by suicide by gunshot wound. Reading your article was like cold water in my face, particularly the following part. ‘If they violate work hours (by caring for patients), they can be forced to lie on their time cards or be written up as inefficient and sent to a psychiatrist for stimulant medications.’ I was a surgical resident who struggled with lack of sleep in a program which eventually was put on probation due to duty-hour violations, though we were bullied into lying about our hours. Any violations were our fault, not the program’s. I was picked on by a more advanced resident, and the program director sent me to Employee Assistance Program because he thought I was the source of the problems. They sent me to a psychologist who diagnosed me with ADD. He sent me to a psychiatrist, who added bupropion and methylphenidate to my escitalopram. I ended up not having my contract renewed in the end.” (Page 58 Human Rights Violations in Medicine: A-to-Z Action Guide)
@@PamelaWible I would have thought the work hours rules had at least solved the sleep deprivation part of it but I see the rules are more a paper tiger. I wonder by what % the sleep deprivation has been reduced from the old days not just on paper but in actuality? During my residency years I had to focus 100% eating, living and breathing in a hospital. Though it can seem insurmountable somehow you become organized and efficient-proficient to the point of being able to function (don't ask me how) Time off was too precious to use for making videos for youtube though the internet did not exist then. I don't recall so many suicides while I was training. Anyone considering a career in medicine should shadow a resident and get an idea of the schedule and lifestyle, and not a dermatology resident.
I am only touched by my dermatologist or Gyn who actually do patient care. All others stay on the computer not even looking at me. I have been a nurse 45 yrs. So I know exactly that EMR and it's demands no patient care.
I remember sitting in class after super hard exam and everyone pretended that they did not study or studied little bit "on the lunch break at Chipotle". I felt guilty and super dumb that I had to study all days and nights. Now I understand that everyone does, but everyone try to pretend that their life is super easy and happy and they are super talented and born knowing everything about organic chrmistry