A Clockwork Orange is a Christian Film
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I know there are a few errors in the video, but I'm not getting monetized so this is just how it's gonna be. You know, nothing will probably changed if/when I do get monetized.
This was like a college paper I wrote but reappropriated and changed around for TH-cam. It's something I like to talk about. I'm not turning this channel into a religious channel but you have to at least know the essential Bible stories, as well as Greek and Roman myth, to be able to fully appreciate a lot of Western art.
Anyways, I'm hoping to make these videos more regularly. Gonna release one video essay per week and then maybe some B-content each week as well. Think like a highly edited video as well as something loosely edited and off-the-cuff. The more casual content will focus more on the filmmaking side of things while these essays will focus more on film criticism or history.
Definitely worth noting that when the droogs are dragging Alex to the water trough, their police I.D.'s are 665 and 667, implying that Alex, who is in between the two, is 666. This definitely plays into the inversion themes we see throughout the film. Great analysis!
Then this means that Alex represents the Antichist!
Yes
Interestingly enough, Alex is partly based on Roman Emperor Nero, who many argue is the Biblical 666. Nero used to get drunk, then look for fights in the streets of Rome with some of his buddies, and iirc he even used to disguise himself. He suffered a similar fate to Alex aswell, once he picked a fight with a man whose wife he had raped and he was beaten to near death by that man.
@@melissacooper8724yeah also with Alex’s correctional advisor telling him “is there some devil that lives inside you”
Despite being jewish, Kubrick has some really profound christian motives in his movies.
I mean, both come from the same Abrahamic root, so it makes some sense.
@@jhonsmith8425 but christianity has nothing to do with judaism and vice versa.
@@MitsurugiR judaism has a major role in christianity, but christianity has 'no' importance in judaism
@@MitsurugiR Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the same "God"
They just disagree on his earthly representative.
@@MitsurugiR Christianity is Judaism fulfilled. Jewish people denied their messiah. Now it can never happen because the messiah was supposed to come from the line of Judah but now all the lines are mixed. The prophecy for the messiah is impossible now to fulfill because there is no tribe of Judah anymore, so it's obvious by now that it was either Jesus or nobody. The followers of Jesus considered him to be the messiah and the New Testament considers him to be the messiah so of course Christianity is Judaism fulfilled.
Jesus freed Jewish people from the law so the Talmud isn't necessary anymore.
Can't wait to watch this cool Christian film with my 10 year old kids. This truly is a kino for an all-family movie night
Truly a family friendly movie :)
Little kid next day: "HI HI HI MY DROOGIES"
My dad showed me Platoon when I was 11. He was a Green beret in Vietnam.
To me the Prison Chaplin said it best after the German doctors had given Alex the treatment. He was pointing out that a person can't be forced to be redeemed. He felt the state was playing God when trying to reform Alex into a model citizen with their treatment. The treatment had taken away his free will to choose to do good or evil deeds.
I must admit this is pretty eye-opening
Ahhhhhhhh I see what you did there…
Very good
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Lol
That joke was real horror show! :)
Never knew Burgess was a lapsed Catholic. This makes a whole lotta sense.
I am a Christian, and I've seen this film only once. I think it's a masterful film, and while I think it's very good, I don't think I'll ever watch it again. Just a bit too disturbing for my tatses. This analysis was very interesting, and I have to say that you structured your points very well. Bravo.
I’ve just seen the film as well. I am a Christian and I thought the movie was one of the best. However, I do agree with you and will probably never watch it again.
@@mcmanboy8207 Some films I feel only need to be viewed once. This is one of them for me.
Agreed.
Matthew Steinke well fun fact the author Christianity
But kubrick is atheist
Kubrick is a Jew and it's god blessed race. They are the biggest proof of God's existence
Glad to see more folks expressing how intertwined religion and art often are. Andrei Rublev, Stalker The Passion of Joan of Arc, The Last Temptation of Christ, and The Tree of Life are among some of my very favorite films.
When you asked us to think of Christian Films I thought of the Passion of the Christ, Silence, Hacksaw Ridge and The Pirates who Don't Do Anything.
But not JONAH? :0
I thought of the objectively best one (Godspell)
Side note, every time I see an elderly person IRL with ridiculous dyed hair in blues or purples I think, "oh shit am I in the Clockwork Orange timeline!?" LOL
I kinda was already saying some movies like Se7en can be interpreted as Christian films, dark AF sure.
One visit to modern day London would tell you that we are indeed in the Clockwork Orange timeline 😂
Lmao in 40 years time it’s going to be wild. Blue haired grannies and the inability to choose to do wrong.
This is the type of film analysis I live for
A concise, well researched, good film analysis, I thought those died a long time ago
It’s my favorite film of all time, since before I became a more serious Christian. My whole life I always wanted to be a filmmaker, and when I was a teenager Kubrick superseded Lucas as my favorite filmmaker of all time.
The christian films i first think of are ben hur, the Ten Commandments and king of kings.
@@helvete_ingres4717 what a bunch of nonsense…
@@helvete_ingres4717 I was just referring what i think of when he asked at the beginning of the video, and i as a christian don't really consume much of the media that comes from it.
Passion of the Christ immediately comes to mind aswell.
What an underrated channel...
I've always thought of tis as a Christian film because the central premise of free will. The Christian believes every individual must have the journey of deciding between evil and good, and that this choice is greater than the need to have a non violent or well running society. When a government robs people of making choices they turn a person into a clockwork orange, or an NPC like we say nowadays.
Its interesting that Christians are the only religion that is opposing the authoritarian rules being pushed. In Canada we have Christian churches being fined and ministers getting sent to jail.
Some may argue that Christianity being the only religion opposing authoritarian rules would not coincide with a woman's right to choose, making abortion illegal in many countries. I assume most Christians oppose (hopefully) many authoritarian rules of the Bible such as killing witches, gays, fortune tellers, people that reject the verdict of a priest, etc. Christians and atheists have one thing in common, they pick and choose what they decide to believe in the 'Good Book'. I'm just glad to know that where Christians once enjoyed burning atheists at the stake, they are now content with just burning their books.
How are Christians opposing the authoritarian rules? could you extrapolate on that I’m very confused
@@at8630 Yeah, and some may argue that murdering babys for the sake of promiscuity is evil. Gtfo with you leftist garbage.
Christian churches get tax exemptions, what are you on about m8
Republicans in this country want a Christian fascist authoritarian rule so I have no idea what you're on about. Then the far left is merging with communist values. It's a whole shitshow and Christianity isn't doing jack shit to help if you want to know the truth.
Thanks for this nifty Christian film recommendation! I'll be sure to show it at Youth Camp!
I’d consider Se7en and to a lesser extent the matrix in this same catagory
Se7en is a lot more overt in it's symbolism though
@@bernardoohigginsvevo2974 yes it is
The Matrix is a Gnostic film.
Bad Lieutenant is probably my favorite X-rated Christian film.
Alex is a wolf in a hen house, is only following his instincts. Is the only honest character in the story with perhaps the exception of the reverend who can be seen as the opposite as Alex. While Alex chooses to act in his nature without remorse, due to his young age, the reverend chooses to repress his own "evil" instincts and to do the "correct" thing, perhaps due to his more mature age. In the last chapter of the book a still young 18-year-old Alex evolves and naturally changes becoming a good citizen.
Also in that last chapter, the droog with the beret, Pete, reappears to put an important piece of the puzzle fulfilling his mission and completing the perfect symmetry of the fable. In the movie, Pete is just a loose piece in the mechanism of this beautiful but artificial orange.
Who is most horrendous? The natural Alex, and the rest of young delinquents, who follows his instincts creating pain around them as the cost for his own amusement? The sad lives of the rest of the perverted characters in the fable who lives in denial, lies, self-repression, and the pain that that choice of life causes? The artificial Alex who has no more freedom of choice to act on his own natural instincts becoming a caricature of a human being?
And what drives the choices of lives of the perverted characters but fear, guilt, and superstitions? Sometimes entitlement and contrive ideas about how society has to be managed in the cases of the politics and the intellectuals who plots against the government who, both, get involved in petty machinations against each other without hesitating in breaking all his moral principles, destroying all their honesty and credibility in the process, becoming a mirror of each other and defeating his own primary purpose, devoid them both of meaning. the only thing that's left in this scenario is corruption.
Alex is uncorrupted.
It is not strange that we feel attracted by Alex in this scenario. It is not strange to sympathize with him while the rest to the characters cowardly delight on the tortures that society inflicts in the name of a corrupt justice.
What, what separates Alex from the other young delinquents? Nothing aside that Alex is a natural alpha due to his skills, intellect, and sharp sensibility. They are uncorrupted too. Until they are not. Until they lose their innocence. When they become greedy they begin to reflect the corrupt society that surrounds them, starting a metamorphosis that culminates in the scene when they reappear as policemen working for the corrupt government in which point we can not distinguish them anymore from the rest of the society.
In the book, Alex naturally changes and becomes a good citizen. But in the film, that change is not reflected and Alex manages to be accepted in society unadulterated. A corrupt society that seems to have been custom-built to embrace someone like him. A perfect playground for Alex to thrive and have fun. In the end, he is not best not worst than the rest of society, but he is honest. He is brave and embraces life and his nature, and unleashes its instincts unapologetically. While society suffers life doing the same harm in a pathetic effort to survive one sad day more.
About the Ludovico technique is, really, an extension of jail. In jail, society takes apart individuals from society so they can not harm anyone outside the jail. Society cut the liberties of the individual, confining them in a closed space. Ludovico technique cut the liberties of the individual in his free will so they can live in society, creating these creepy monsters devoided of the ability to make their own decisions. What is most horrendous? If something, the film has to make us reflect on the humanity, helpfulness, and benefits of the prison system as it is built.
Well , that's anti-christian , how dare you ?? Of course what you wrote is opposite to what christians would say - they would say that he tricked government and the oppressors and run away from holy correction process that would make him a good person. While I think he is given back his freedom and don't play in a play of GOOD and BAD
The thing I found most strikingly Christian about the film is the emphasis on "free will". Alex after the Ludivigo project has been brainwashed and thus has no free will. The only one upset about this is the reverend. The film is sort of an upside down Christianity, His "cure" at the end is the embrace of a carnal nature. It reminds me of another of my favourites Fight Club.
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4:34 What was more important in the creation of the language for the book was Finnegans Wake. Burgess was a lifelong lover of Joyce's work, especially Finnegans Wake.
Been saying this. This movie holds a sin sized mirror up to the society that watches it. The violently oversexualized portions are disturbing and yet these types of things are one google search away from children thirty years after this film's release. And people will easily condemn this movie's portrayal of them, yet applaud the real life equivalents. And that's exactly what Kubrick is highlighting so brightly; all through Alex, a child man who sleeps beside the serpent of The Garden of Eden.
My favourite movie, from my favourite director, from a novel by my favourite author. And yes, it's a movie I can watch during Easter, back to back with Jesus of Nazareth, for the reasons you mentioned.
Andrei Rublev is not only my favorite Christian film, it's my favorite film.
I'm Christian, and recall watching this and being confused how the symbolism mis-matched the message. I've always equated the film with the line in Coleridge's 'Rime..', "The man indeed has penance done, and penance more shall do"; as if sensing Alex's transformation was incomplete.
Thank you for completing the thought for me! 😊
1:49 Andrei Rublev is so good. Marketa Lazarova is an essential watch too.
man this analysis is so thoughtful and insightful, its reminded me of why i love this book and film so much
As a younger man i totally got kubricks version..as an older guy i appreciate and relate to the last chapter and see how important it was.
Im a Christian and only after watching this movie for the thirt time i really saw and felt the real message.
utilitarianist's can't see the point in defending Alex's humanity. They have a point only if we forget we are creatures gifted with free will. Notice the people now that are against free will.
Which is the hardest pill to swallow. That no matter who it was in the society Alex found himself no one acted like Christ, expect the priest, and maybe the record store owner.
Quite the unique take. Subbed and hungry for more.
So you got it too. I've been saying this for years. Just subscribed to you're channel a little while back , so I have some catching up to do but so far what I've seen of you're work is spot on .
I just want to know where he gets his false lashes
Anthony Burgess had some pretty based political views.
Even though I am agnostic I am fascinated by the mixture of art and religion. Certainly divine!
If you look at history, traditionally speaking religion has been at the absolute forefront of art and education. Islamic golden age, Da Vinci, ect.
I remember watching Midnight Mass and thinking to myself it was pretty Christian. Not in the conservative propaganda kind of way, but in the teaching forgiveness and goodness kind of way.
Yes! It was Christian in the way A Clockwork Orange is. It didn't preach so much as utilize Christian 'mythology' and values to tell a story. Every ideology can have good stories, even the woke religion is capable of telling a good story. Del Toros ' alien lover movie seems to be the only real woke movie that actually works. Other woke movies just have th preaching inserted.
the movie isnt. the book is.
one of my favorites movies is a christian film calvary Great movie
Thought about this the moment I watched it. Alex would not be able to go to heaven because after his treatment he doesn't have a choice to sin, he does not have free will. 😀👍
Silence and the mission are the two best Christian films
Da Vinci’s Sistine Chapel panel showing Adam touching God, has been shown in one interpretation as Adam thinking up God, as the God part of the painting is in the shape of a human brain.
great analysis its definitely a favorite, thank you for the video.
I know its confusing because it is the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force and the corps are called the Royal Army Medical Corps and the Royal Army Educational Corps but it's not the Royal Army its just the Army or the British Army if you want to differentiate it from other countries
The Oxford English Dictionary defines Kino as a gum obtained from certain tropical trees by tapping, used locally as an astringent in medicine and in tanning.
Definitely in the Philosophical sense I can see it just like The Exorcist is the best Faith-Based Horror film. Also in the book it makes mention of a book called “A Clockwork Orange”
what is the film he mentions at 1:49
Movie Dogma: Tell a person that you're the Metatron and they stare at you blankly. Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie and suddenly everybody is a theology scholar. :)
A Clockwork Orange is a Christian Film and best Catholics film. Russian nasad language and Irish immigrants in England minority. Prison priest is a bit criticize Catholics Sunday school, biblical teachings be good boy versus harsh reality where you living dog eat dog.
Secondary Alex as new Antichrist, his two "droogs" after betrayal of Alex become policemen, Dim badge number 665 in baptize scene Georgy badge number is 667 jump to conclusion Alex in middle must be 666. Antichrist also goes resurrection.
Anthony Burgess - Napoleion script of Kubrick movie.
Beethoven admired the ideals of the French Revolution, so he dedicated his third symphony to Napoleon Bonaparte… until Napoleon declared himself emperor. Mark Twain explains that Napoleon created literally capitalism where we now? living he destroyed feudalist aristocratic fatasses as parasites, Napoleonic Code - introduced laws to common people and took away "GOD-given" power from aristocratic elite in my opinion antichrist given power, and most important Napoleon spread metric system, science became available and for poor scumbags like me :) Also unified metric system made taxes more fair or at least more equal around all West and central Europe, Russia and east ? BUT
Beethoven hated authority he never bow to aristocratic person that is only person who was court artist dependable from aristocratic houses, he hated authority. After Napoleon declared himself an emperor (so became antichrist). POWER CORRUPTS, ABSOLUTE POWER CORUPTS ABSOLUTLY.
10:23 Writer resembles Beethoven poster in Alex bedroom, Beethoven been kicked around a lot by fatass nobility. But Star Wars Anakin revenge leads to Darth Vader. Ukraine war and Kharkiv Mariupol looks terrible, and wounds will heel very slowly bit never forget revenge is served very bad dish :) And Vendetta, revanshism, revenge are the same must be done under law (code of law) not by mob lynching, writer is also antichrist figure.
Mark Twain was wrong. Capitalism was around before currency when people traded eggs for corn. my kids practice it by trading candy at school.
A hell of a hidden gem of a channel
According to Jay Weidner, Kubrick made an alchemical movie in 2001, but I do not think that makes Kubrick an alchemist.
Great analysis. I think A Clockwork Orange is one of the greatest films of the 20th century for all the reasons you laid out. Also on a technical level, the filmmaking still baffles me with its excellence. The film is shockingly graphic and disturbing yes, but so is the Bible. The film is set in a future dystopia, but the story is as ancient as time.
this is ridiculous your videos deserve much more views and you deserve much more subs
The purpose of fictional literature is to explore a problem (and evil in the world) and why it is wrong in order to help us better understand goodness and truth and to therefore grow closer to God by understanding *him.* A Clockwork Orange is absolutely a valuable work of art for a Christian so long as they are mature and can understand its message and not develop an unhealthy obsession with the vanity that the story is trying to criticize. This is a movie for a mature adult with a firm grounding in the faith (Anthony Burgess who wrote the original novel was a Christian though so this should make sense), but this is not for an adolescent who is struggling with the same toxic worldview and circumstances that the depicted characters have. The only character to admire is the priest for using his gift of discernment and wisdom given to him by God but his addressing of Alex by his prison ID indicates that even he is still a flawed man.
Also, your understanding of the nature of perversion, sin, and evil, and how the book/film addresses indicates that God has gifted you a great discernment and wisdom too.
The snake being dead on his arrival back at home?
Eyes Wide Shut - the 2nd adventure is a flipside of the previous one eg nothing works right when Tom Cruise tries to choose to give in to humor temptation... plus all the Christmas tree motifs.... There is something going on here for sure as well
Bro, where did you get that definition chart? Send the link for us as well.
Great analysis and insight on the subtext.
holy shit when he said thing of christian films i specifically thought of gods not dead, gods not dead 2, and gods not dead 3
Does anyone know where the David Lynch clip around 8:05 is from?
Search: David Lynch explains Transcendental Meditation.
Lovely presentation!
Upon finding out he didn't have a TV license lol
Left Behind shouldve been left behind.
What is the other film you mention right before tree of life?
A clockwork orange undoubtedly has some very blatant Christian themes. Mostly the theme of agency, or free will. The ability to choose right or wrong is something that Christians believe God will never interfere with. He lets us make our own decisions wether they be good or evil, and this movie shows exactly what happens when someone tries to take that away. It puts so much emphasis on the importance of God given free will. In that sense this movie has a strong Christian message and theme. As a Christian guy, I absolutely love this movie! One of my all time favorites! And I love that even though it shows someone committing some nasty things, it also shows the damage and falseness of conditioning someone to be "good".
You missed one. He has disciples who betray and abandon him.
Even the snake, that symbolize evil
The droog police officers are 665 and 667!
What was the other movie he recommended, besides tree of life?
Hey, where are all the new videos you promised? I can't wait!
I can’t lie, even though he’s completely evil, I think that having the very nature who you are stripped away and made to cause you pain is a fate worse than death. I’d prefer the death sentence over being erased but forced to live in the blank version of myself
10:32 What show is this?
Signs
Balthazar
Passion of Joan of Arc
Ben Hur
A Serious Man
Leviathan
Tree of Life
Anderi Rublev
Silence
E.T.
Chronicles of Narnia.
Angel trumpets and devil trombones......
Ordet by Dreyer.....in response to the opening of this video.
🖤thank you for the name!
First of all, amazing video. Second, at 6:36 when is the scene of him crucifying jesus in the movie.
bravo.
I think it's kinda funny that critics who praised 2001 are the same people who panned A Clockwork Orange. They weren't big fans of Kubrick's rather pessimistic view of human nature, but... In 2001, Kubrick literally shows that people started using tools because some weird aliens helped them via monoliths.
In A Clockwork Orange, however, Kubrick demonstrates almost a... Christian moral. Let me explain.
The whole point of the story (the point is a lot clearer in the novel, by the way) is something like that: you cannot COMPEL someone to step onto the path of righteousness. They have to WISH to step onto this path.
According to Christianity, God gave us free will EXACTLY for that. We have a choice to either be righteous or sinful. Some people think that this choice is an illusion, because God will punish us if we are sinful. This way, he compels us to be rightful. However, it is not exactly that. The idea is supposed to be that we will use our free will to understand that we should be righteous... WHICH IS ALSO THE POINT OF THE FILM!!!
Being one of my all time fave films, seeing the title of your video, I was thoroughly intrigued, & had to watch! Btw, this is one of those films that (after seeing it) had to read the book! To the point, you convinced me. Amazing breakdown & interpretation 👏🏻🙌🏻 SIDE NOTE; The censors in this video used on the Jesus statues (In Clockwork footage). Is that necessary? I was under the impression that art passes the censors for all viewers.
Regardless, let me leave you with a point to ponder (since you truly sparked my mind today). WHY do so many of our kind, Christians, demonize the body, sexualize it
(w/o any sex acts present), & nowadays (since 21st century especially) consider nudity as corrupting to the young? If all this is true, wouldn’t that make the MAKER the main catalyst of a criminal act, a creator of something lewd & evil? IMO, Christians have misinterpreted scripture on this. Adam/Eve we’re not ashamed bc they were w/o clothes, the original Hebrew states it was the LIGHT COVERING they lost upon sinning that made them feel uncomfortable. Paul never said dress modestly, but was referring to the rich women coming in church with jewels all in their hair & all over their bods while the poor had nothing. LASTLY, if nudity is any of the above criminal evils our society ascribes to it , why did God tell Isiah to walk the earth naked for a time? He would hv been a felony offender for life in under current U.S. draconian/puritanical laws, for sure. FOOD FOR THOUGHT 😄
Veggie tails are pretty good Christian movies too ngl
The name Alexander also hearkens back to Alexander the Great. The great pagan conqueror. He was known for his violence too. Even killing a friend at dinner during an argument.
A powerful worldwide king
Great job!!!
more parallels:
1. alex has droogs, like jesus has disciples
2. alex and his droogs have a last supper in the duke of new york
3. alex's droogs betray him like judas betrays him
4. he is tortured and is figuratively crucified by the state and his enemies
5. he dies and is resurrected.
WOWZA. This right here is it
You sir, best the rest. Subscribed.
Dostoevsky said that the temptation of turning bread to stone is evil because it eliminates free will. People will be forced to worship Jesus simply to survive.
It's interesting how the priest was the only one, standing at his left shoulder (another inverse of good and bad), who hated the therapy because it eliminates choice. Like Dostoevsky's Inquisitor, the state would rather take away choice and leave the criminals unreformed in nature than truly redeem them.
Do I have a point I'm trying to make? No idea
When I think of Christian kino, it's Kingdom of Heaven, and The Prince of Egypt.
I was thinking The Ten Commandments.
Guess there is a difference between America and Europe when it comes to what movies are considered to be christian films. I remember when I had christian religion class in Germany. They showed us films like "The straight Story" and "Pasolini's Gospel According to Matthew". After that we had to write analysis of these movies. Also I remember a screening of "Marketa Lazerova" at an old church in Heidelberg.
Could not agree more.
Bloody hell,,,,,back again😵💫😆
wow.
I thought of Ben Hur.
Anthony Burgess's message is very overtly christian. It makes the same point as the garden of Eden; God wouldn't have put that tree there and let a snake into the garden if he didn't want us to take the fruit. The tree is usually referred to as the tree of knowledge, as it gave us the ability to see good and evil. We were meant to decide to do good rather than to automatically do it if we were to be 'like God' as the bible says.
p.s I didn't watch the video so sorry if I repeated anything, I just did a ton of essays on this topic in highschool and got excited when I saw that someone thought the same thing, so I wanted to weigh in
It is not the Tree of Knowledge. It is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. A bit unwieldy, but Adam was very knowledgeable before eating any of its fruit. Also, the reason the fruit made Adam mortal is because to know evil, one must experience its consequences. "For the wages of sin is death". Adam knew of evil, but he had never done it and so he was not evil until he did evil by eating the fruit he was commanded not to.
Brilliant.
I don’t and can’t appreciate how matter of fact you make your point. It’s an interesting take, but wrong. The story of the book and movie are much more about how powers, such as government and religion co-opt morality and try to force it upon fresh youth that isn’t meant to operate as such… hence a clockwork orange, fresh and young fruit being forced to working such as a clock
1:48 watch what? didn't catch that
I believe he said "Andrei Rublev", a film by Andrei Tarkovsky.
The Exorcist is a very kino christian film too lol.
Provocative review. I have seen this film many times and never looked at it from this perspective. Kubrick films can be a Rorschach test.
not a rorschach test. this was the point of the story.
@@MicahMicahel Given that a Rorschach test is used in part to determine how a person may view something with a different interpretation than others, I will most humbly submit that I am unable to concur with you Dr., Strangelove. The point of the story was 'an' interpretation. Our difference of opinion has us looking the fool, lets not add the trappings of a clown.
@@at8630 a minister came out in teh story and said it! This isn't hidden messaging! The whole point of the story is whether we can take free will from a bad person. The only reason to side with Alex 's free will is that we are gifted free will from God. This is not a highly interpretive story. A rorchasch test is an abstract blob. A Clockwork orange is a very tight story written by a Christian man with a very specific message that is even stated outright by the characters.
You have a minister outright stating the meaning of the story and you choose to ignore that?
It's an abstract blob to you? You see this story as hopelessly abstract maybe because the futuristic trappings but it's a very simple story underneath the stylings.
I'm a clown because I see this as a simple story? IT's not a complicated story! This isn't Mullholland Drive. IT's a brutally simple story. You can just interpret stories in your own way and ignore the very blatant message calling it another interpretation but you are ignoring how simple the story is.
@@MicahMicahel Kubrick the Atheist did not make his films for proselytizing about Christianity. Free will is not a gift from a supernatural celestial dictatorship, no more so than we are born (created) of sin and commanded to be well, or required to love and worship a loving creator under the threat of eternal damnation if we refuse.
@@at8630 Teh writer of the novel was a Catholic. Kubrick didn't write A clockwork Orange. He actually adapted it very closely to the original book. I'm not saying Kubrick or Burgess is evangelizing. Christianity is just the religion that respects free will. Islam and Buddhism doesn't. If you want to tell a story about free will you might think of having a Christian as a character. Leftists don't believe in free will. They believe a person is nurtured rather than a result of their own nature. You are telling me you don't agree with Christianity like as if you are 'informing' me it is wrong. That's your subjective opinion. I'm not trying to get you to be a cHristian. I'm just saying Anthony Burgess, the writer was a Catholic and he wrote a story about free will. THat's the theme of the story.
You could be a Christian and write a story using Buddhist themes. You could even be an atheist and write a book about Christian themes because it's more interesting. Christian themes are interesting. Often Christian themes are disguised. A Clockwork Orange doesn't even disguise it.
Pulp Fiction
I hated the ending so much
such a lack of faith in humanity
Plus it omits the novel final chapter which allows for a redemptive theme and free choice
how is a lack of faith in humanity? Isn't it a triumph of free will? We want Alex to have free will because we want him to retain his humanity. We can only hope humans can keep their free will. Tyranny is always trying to prevent this. QWe don't cheer that Alex is still evil. We cheer that the government hasn't solved the problem by taking our humanity away. Alex is a creep but he became a creep through his own free will.
How is that a lack of faith in humanity? I don't understand
RAPE, MURDER, AND SENSELESS VIOLENCE CAN ALL BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE. (ALONG WITH MOST RELIGIOUS TEXT) SO WHY WOULD A MOVIE THAT FEATURES SUCH TOPICS NOT BE DEEMED OR WORTHY ENOUGH OF BEING "CHRISTIAN"?
Side note courageous is a great movie
The mini series came First