@@SpectrumStorms I just mean that most of the analysis/reaction videos these days are about the Moffat run. Also on the whole David Tenant was a more popular Doctor.
@@SpectrumStorms it was amazing but is slightly pipped, for me, by the river song/ family of blood season and Journeys end season. But yes, Christopher Eccleston was a towering Doctor.
Yep! I remember the look of terror on Sylvester McCoy's face when he saw they could chase him up some stairs! Especially when he found that the door at the top was locked.
the "through overuse, became this camp, children's gimmicky bit of silliness" thing also hapened to the cybermen. Cybus cybermen in s2 fixed it but it happened again. The thing is, both daleks and cybermen don't LOOK very scary, so unless written right, they turn campy. It's what they represent and the things they do that are scary. The concepts....
They just overuse the catch phrases and keep stopping them from actually being the killing monstrosities they are. Although Cybermen are just frankly overused in modern Who. Too many times since the 12th doctor as a finale filler villain.
The lone cyberman from the last season shows this very well : he's got a cool, scary design, has a new-ish concept of hybrid / half-upgraded cyberman from the far future, he comes from the great cyber war, carries an insanely powerful cybercomputer in him and a weapon of mass destruction, we're told he's gonna be scary, his arrival is somewhat scary, he's gonna be a major antagonist that actually nearly wipped mankind and all... but get taken off for a cheap joke and a plot device latter on.
The Doctor : "No! ‘Cause this is what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna rescue her. I’m gonna save Rose Tyler from the middle of the Dalek fleet, and then I’m gonna save the Earth. And then-just to finish off-I’m gonna wipe every last stinking Dalek out of the sky!" Dalek: But you have no weapons, no defenses, no plan. The Doctor: Yeah! And doesn’t that scare you to death.
As a child in the 1960s and a watcher of Doctor Who since the second ever story, I can honestly say that this is the only occasion in which a childhood icon has been updated and not ruined. The new dalek design was a work of genius, encapsulating their very essence from my childhood and actually managing to improve them and make them far more menacing; the swivelling mid section was inspired, as was the sucker becoming a device that could manipulate. I'll say nothing about the "Fisher Price" daleks that followed though. I wish the relaunched Thunderbirds had come even within spitting distance of pulling off the same trick, but sadly not.
I'd have said even the subsequent 'Fisher Price' daleks couldn't been good, better even, had they been treated as seriously as they were in RTD-era Who.
I liked Dalek but I always end up disapoitned when they suddenly bring armies of Daleks around, but they they just get instantly taken out by a plot device. It really undercuts their menace for me. Though I did at least like the concept of Dalaks take Manhatten of the irony of the Dalaks creating a Dalak that can think outside the box to save their species, only to turn against and destroy him because, well, his solution went against their values. Though the fact the Dalaks will never actually die out kind of undercuts that too.
Them dying out at some point doesnt even mean we cant see them again cuz, well, time travel shenanigans. Its a bit of a let down that its never really happened..
@@zacmumblethunder7466 That's annoying too, but but it really gets hard for me to take the Dalaks seriously because I know any time they show up in force they'll probably just get deus ex'd away. IMO they should be used more sparingly, and in fewer numbers, rather than full armies of them popping up, at least if they actually want me to take them seriously.
@@MalzraAirwynn you make good points. In the original series they were a sort of recurring annoyance. Sneaky little dustbins turning up and causing trouble. Part of this approach was of course the difficulty in presenting large numbers on a limited budget. But that just made the writers more ingenious (with some apalling exceptions!). Now there is CGI and it's "More more more". I find seeing a million Daleks flying out of a giant spaceship like a swarm of gnats far less threatening than one Dalek determinedly, relentlessly and almost leisurely hunting down its prey.
I hate when actors leave something good "for their career"... it never works! Why leave a paying job for a stupid reason? Often times you get convoluted story telling to explain their leaving, but at least we got David Tennant out of the mess... so that's okay.
@@DanteYewToob It's gradually come out through various sources that Eccleston objected to bullying he had witnessed in the production team. He tackled the three showrunners about it and was disgusted at their reluctance to deal with it. All Eccleston will say is that he clashed with three members of the team (the most he has ever said on the subject was in a Radio 4 interview on "Loose Ends". Despite Clive Anderson pressing for more details, Eccleston maintained that it would be unethical to go into details). Various stories have emerged in newspaper and magazine articles over the years but the actual details as to what form the alleged bullying took remain obscure. RTD did say in interviews while the show was in production that he and the other executives would do anything to ensure the new series was a success. The production team gave several different reasons for Eccleston's decision to leave: Fear of being typecast. This is the one that is most quoted. Seems unlikely as he had been in several series of Cracker and had taken other roles with no problem. RTD gave an interview once where he stated he always planned to cast an actor for the first season only in order to reintroduce the viewers to the concept of regeneration as soon as possible. I went to a Dr Who event where one if the production team said that they'd always wanted David Tennant for the role but he was tied up elsewhere and production could not be delayed so Eccleston agreed to be a "Placeholder" doctor. I've heard a variation on this last one that the BBC were reluctant to give the lead role to an unknown actor as Tennant then was.
Honestly, I think it's better he left early. He went off on a really high note and David Tennant filled the role as successor beautifully. Nothing but fond memories of those two as the Doctor.
@@davidgraham8299 Took me a bit to get into him, too, but once I did I was hooked. He was a great follow-up for Eccleston's more serious (but still sometimes whimsical) Doctor.
Dalek was a great story, but then the whole army of them just made them shit again for me. The Daleks are always better when they are heavily out-numbered. Well, except for that one with the pigmen in the 20s.
@@HarboWholmes It's not as bad as later ones, but it still set up the idea that a billion of them can be defeated by opening a drawer. I think they are always best when they have to use trickery to get their way, like that story where their weapons didn't work, or the one where they pretended to be servants while secretly operating a factory line.
It worked in Parting of the Ways because they were literally unstoppable to the point where the Doctor went straight for the nuclear option and took some God type entity to destroy them. I liked them in Series 2 and 3 (yes I liked Daleks in Manhattan fight me) but Series 4 turned them into a joke with Journey's End and they've never recovered.
@@dominickeijzer5844 I think they were called Ironsides in that episode. According to the wiki the Dalek from the episode Dalek is called Metaltron tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Metaltron
Damn the feelings this video brought back are crazy. Keep up the amazing work man. Its very cool seeing something I'm so familiar with broken down like this.
I've never understood the "Daleks can't go up stairs" thing. The third time we saw Daleks, in the Chase, they went up stairs! And it was more or less implied in Dalek invasion of Earth as well.
The point being, that with the exception of their first appearance (when they also couldn't leave the metal floor of their city) they've always been able to go up stairs. Why did this ever become a thing?
Davies new how to write Daleks. Even Journey's End/The Stolen Earth and Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways were a good way to have a Dalek army. However, Dalek and Doomsday provided the horror that a few Daleks can cause, even to trained military and Cybermen. Daleks in Manhattan and Victory of the Daleks came close, but no cigar. And since then....nah.
I believe that the scope of Jubilee was much wider, being about what the world was like, with the Dalke part only being one subplot. Dalek cut it down to 45 minutes, putting the focus on the Dalke part.
The lost episodes of the Evil of the Daleks back in the Patrick Troughton era explains the introduction of the human factor into Darlek DNA. So it could resurface in the episode Dalek. The modern writers know their Who.
Alan Brookes I don’t recall DNA being mentioned in Evil. The idea of the human factor was that it was meant to make the Daleks think and behave like humans. I dislike the way DNA is used as a buzzword for some magical phenomenon that has nothing to do with actual DNA. This is one of the reasons why you need to switch parts of your brain off to enjoy Dalek. It’s basically a story about a robot monster going on a killing spree; it really is no deeper than that.
I feel like the Daleks are more horrific when written as forged from the scraps that humanity provides, not even being an emotionless husk of humanity like a cyberman but being a corrupted part of a person with some modification repurposed to feel genocidal against its own former fellow people, made to be a mix of hate and arrogance from what can be salvaged from the filth of humanity. Hence why when the doctor shows his rage, the Daleks admire it and say he would be a good Dalek. I feel the monsters I feared most were the ones that I could see myself becoming and being corrupted into, a shell of what humanity I had left, repurposed for destruction. That is why "pure" daleks intimidate me less, one laser beam and I die? When my central nervous system is hijacked to cause suffering and twist the repressed rage within me, that is what scares me. Becoming a monster against my will.
I completely agree with all that. The subtle storyline in the background, RTD was so good at that. Moffat just didn't seem to get the idea, so instead the Daleks forgot about the Doctor, had a bit of Mercy from young Davros, as well as that bit about shouting exterminate to reload. No regard for continuity in general really.
Richard Bilton No, pretty much all of them. Death to the Daleks - they use telekinesis to move around. Destiny of the Daleks - The Daleks are robots. Genesis of the Daleks - what happened to the Dals? What about the established origins? The Daleks - How come static electricity is only mentioned in one other story? How come they didn’t need a floor supply In Genesis? Dalek Invasion of Earth - set a million years before the original Dalek story? How does that work? And how many times did Davros get killed, only to come back with a rubbishy explanation?
@@paulbeardsley4095 Did they say they were robots or robotic and only capable of logical thinking? I think the Doctor's presence in Genesis altered Dalek history as they were trapped in the bunker for a while. The Kaled name could have been lost to the Thals by the time of The Daleks - also, we don't know when this is set within the Dalek timeline. The only reappearance of Davros that isn't explained is the last one.
@@10thdoctor15 "Did they say they were robots or robotic and only capable of logical thinking?" They said they were robots, and even pointed out that they USED TO have a creature inside. "I think the Doctor's presence in Genesis altered Dalek history as they were trapped in the bunker for a while." Irrelevant. "The Kaled name could have been lost to the Thals by the time of The Daleks" The Thals had historical records which included pictures. The origin stories of The Daleks and Genesis - not to mention the Zolfian and Yarvelling accounts - are contradictory. "The only reappearance of Davros that isn't explained is the last one." Given that we didn't see him die in his previous appearance, that's pretty small potatoes. At the end of Genesis, Davros was quite clearly killed. It was the dramatic point of the story - like Victor Frankenstein, he was killed by his own creation. His remains were left in a bunker for centuries, during which time the Daleks presumably moved around him while he gathered dust and cobwebs - not one of them thought of disposing of the body. Then, long after they'd left Skaro, a Dalek got the idea that maybe he wasn't dead after all - much like us thinking Henry VIII might not be dead - so they literally dug him up. Davros then magically came back to life and muttered some bollocks about a hitherto unmentioned secondary life support. As if he wasn't already dead enough, his last moments in Resurrection of the Daleks see him infected by a deadly virus. This is not mentioned when he turns up in Revelation. This is all par for the course for Doctor Who. You either accept it or reject it. But whatever you do, you don't pretend the contradictions started with Moffat.
Even thought the Daleks were generally deus ex'd away with a reset button in RTD's era, there was usually a heavy price to pay for pressing it, which kind of kept them interesting. S1 nailed it, but the S4 finale was stretching it a bit.
Not really anything to do with anything here, but I kinda wish Doctor Who would take a page out of DBZ and make the new companions out of the old antagonists. 12 came really close with Missy and Rusty and a certain retro Cyberman, but they were too afraid to really mix things up. 11 also had the dinosaur lady and the dude who kept calling Clara a boy.
@@paladinboyd1228 I guess you are replying to my other comment but what makes it scary is the implication, it doesn't have to be graphic and is sometimes even scarier if it goes unseen. Daleks zap you and you cease to be, all they do is cut your life a bit short.
I watched this recently. The dales harvested humans for their DNA, but only one cell in every billion was deemed "pure" enough to become "blessed Dalek". The process took centuries, harvesting every unlucky loser at the game station. Its actually pretty horrific!
Mate, this channel JUST got recommended and as the Doctor Who fan I am I had to check it out. This is my first vid and I LOVE your channel so far! "Dalek" is my third fav episode of new who and Series 1 is my second fav series so this just validates how great of a writer RTD and Shearman are XD Golden age of Doctor Who right here!
The first time I saw the Dalek episode was literally the first time I ever saw a dalek story, because I'm a new generation fan. I've since then grown to love the classic series, but I joined the fandom way late, with the 2005 series. Before then I had little to no idea what a dalek was, but the way it was shown to me here is honestly brilliant and it goes to show how good of a job they did. The first time I saw the character I laughed a little, because of how goofy it looked. It still looks like a retro sci fi alien, so I wrongfully assumed that the threat it posed would be really forced because of their attempt to bank on the nostalgia of an old classic and recognizable design. It was only later in the episode when you saw how mobile it actually was, that I realized it's a fantastic killing machine and an incredible menace. They made sure Eccleston delivered like "The Dalek's a genius", when he warned about what it was capable of, and we saw it hack a super computer in seconds and breach a locked door through brute force on the keypad. It was amazing really.... they introduced me to this villain and then made me completely change my mind about it within like 20 minutes. The foreshadowing and exposition of the Russel era deserves a study on its own, because they really nailed it when it comes to teaching new fans how to care about something they have no experience with, at the same time as they deliver fan service. Another favorite episode of mine was School Reunion, which brought back Sarah Jane and K9. As a new fan, I didn't know who these characters were either, but the show just did such a wonderful job at selling the idea that what was happening on screen was important. It's like you could feel the history behind these characters and you really believed how much The Doctor cared. You knew there was a bigger picture, but most importantly, the story itself was self-contained and coherent without knowing old lore, and that's hard to do sometimes. When K9 sacrificed himself you really felt that hit. It's still one of my favorite moments from the whole show.
the russel T davies era was by far the golden age of the show, while it did admittedly have its duds it was by far the most consistently good era of the show with classic episode after classic episode. moffats era mostly had the season finales and 1 or 2 stand out episodes within their entire season definitely giving the impression he's better at making individual episodes as opposed to managing series long arcs and by far the daleks show this, the first moffat dalek episode pretty much resets the daleks, removing them as scavangers and giving them purity once again, the doctors anger of the species even existing just fades in subsequent episodes. while i'll admit the tennant era daleks aren't the most reaction inducing, my god they're used to great effect with challanging morality whether that be his own, showing just how evil they are or my favourite how he's turned his companions into living weapons. while i do wish the daleks could return to be the threats they were with the whole retconning of the time war to where gallifrey is still alive and the daleks are back to their max strength there's just no interesting things you can do with them anymore, or at least not to the level of the insane human hybrids.
For me the cult of Skaro were the last time the Daleks were really a threat, the war against the Cybermen is my favourite collection of episodes, hearing a Daleks saying "the cyberman are only better in one way, and that is dying" is always a great line to me and just shows how superior the daleks thin and know they are
You know? At some point I feel they for some reason explain and show everything, and that pretty much ruined a lot of stuff for me. I always really loved the ambivalence and vagueness of the time war. The short glimpses of enormous ruins and titanic Daleks we got to see, the wipers and small tidbits of information that pained an image of something that could have come from the pen of Lovecraft. Stuff like the Nightmare Child, the Could have been King with his army of neverweres and meanwhiles. That really got the chills going and made you wander, what is terrible enouth to make the doctor speak in such terrified tones about it. And then the needed more Daleks, more Time Lords, showed parts of the time war. And obviously it fell flat for me. The same with the Weeping angles. The first episode was terrifying. The things not only were creepy as hell, but hat some nice metha nightmare fuel (they get triggered by ALL observers, even those who should not be there, the viewers). But then they showed them moving and the spell was broken. And don't get me started on the new season. They manage to pack that whole thing in ONE episode. The Master reveal was really good. Did not see not coming at all but went back and it was really well executed. But after that? Every episode starts really interesting and actually good, but always finds a way to turn stupid.
Finally, someone else that thinks the Nightmare Child should've been a Lovecraftian intergalactic Eldritch horror! I hate that they revealed what it was. 'The jaws of the Nightmare Child' was a line that has honestly stuck with me ever since Stolen Earth aired, but then in a book they were just like 'eh it was like, this SUPER CRAZY rogue experiment Dalek, guys, it was so crazy, you have no idea, trust us'
The problem with over saturation of villains exists in many popular scifi shows. They start out scary and mysterious and then they because a parody of themselves. Think of the Wraiths in Stargate Atlantis, started as horrific vampires and ended up cowardly weaklings. The Cylons in 2003 Galatics, start out scary end up just douchebags. The Borg in Startrek, scariest villian in scifi turned out pathetic and idiotic after Voyager and STPicard.
This is one of my favourite episodes or new Who! It was really cool seeing a Dalek with high budget special effects so that rather than just a silly thing that looks like a vacuum cleaner with a plunger sticking out like in Classic Who (which I also love), it was actually believable to be a high tech and dangerous enemy capable of taking out the military.
I loved how detailed Moffat's stories were. The whole Bad Wolf 'meme' sitting in plain sight having no meaning until it was given one. Then when you rewatch the episodes and realise that it was there the whole time. ALSO in the episodes leading up to 'Turn Left' (coincidentally featuring Bad Wolf again), there are screens in the background of some shots featuring Rose shouting for the Doctor. You never see them until you really look, then they're so obvious when you know. He made the classic villains scary again and made the series feel more grown-up and at a similar level to the 'Torchwood' series (minus the swearing and blatant sex references). Then S5 and Matt Smith came along and it turned into a kid's programme again.
It would have been cool if in The Parting of the Ways there was a way that we could just see a smidgen of the Daleks invading the Earth below because it's a fact that can get overlooked about that story because it's more told and not shown. I know in some instances that's better but I thought it could have really added that extra umph to an already stellar finale.
Makes me wonder if the other three members of the Cult of Skaro would've turned against Dalek Sec in Evolution of the Daleks if they knew what their Emperor did to survive, making Human-Dalek hybrids and proclaiming himself to be the "God of all Daleks". I wonder what Sec would've thought of that...
With Daleks there's always a danger of them becoming too ridiculous to take seriously. But fir the most part, series 1-4 managed to straddle that line between riduculous and dangerous very well.
Dalek really did do a genius job at reintroducing the Daleks to a new generation. I'm glad that Chibnall later used it as a template for Resolution, which doesn't get enough credit for doing a similarly amazing job at establishing how big a threat just one Dalek alone can be.
Just watch it again the episode today and compared of how much they use the daleks on empty story's like cof cof "eve of the daleks" and many many others, i could only miss the way that they treated the daleks as a real danger back then.
Have to agree about the episode Dalek. I was a bit "meh" about the new series till then but it brought the very best out of Chris and made even a single Dalek a terrifying prospect. Still the best Dalek episode from new Who imo.
Those things didn't need fixing. The Daleks could go upstairs in the Classic series. It was indicated in Revelation of the Daleks and established in Rememberance. The sink plungers were clearly shown ithroughout the classice series as a device for carrying things.
i guess i'm strange... i didn't realize there was a Dalek problem pre-series 1. most of my favorite Dalek stories were from the classic show. but, each to his own :)
I think Chibbers could do well getting a good writer to adapt their Big Finish story, or like Paul Cornell did with his Human Nature novel. Hell, just get PC to write some episodes of season 13
Why does everyone assume Dalek's can't float? There were floating back in the Origional run. So I'm trying to work out where there is a problem which needs to be fixed.
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Even though you mention Rememberence Of The Daleks, you failed to mention that a dalek does climb stairs in that story. Albeit it "Elevates" itself, The Doctor does see it happen because it happens to him.
Because by the McCoy era people had stopped watching, whereas the cartoon of the Daleks saying, "This buggers up our plans to conquer the universe" (on observing a flight of stairs) was much higher up in public consciousness.
xxno464xx85 Yes, I’m aware of Davros’s levitating chair in Revelation, and even the Daleks on different levels of the Marie - er, Mary - Celeste. But public perception is what really counts.
I agree with this about 'Dalek', which I think was the standout episode of the Eccleston season, but not with much else. 'Parting Of The Ways' was a very unsatisfactory conclusion. Partly, the half-human-half-dalek thing not only contradicts the earlier story, but also feels like a throwaway explanation, and has nothing to do with the story. The whole 'Big Brother' theme of the two-parter is corny, partly because, rather than satirising Reality TV programmes, it's exactly the same as Reality TV programmes. The resolution to the 'Bad Wolf' running theme is utterly meaningless (why is Rose a 'bad wolf' exactly? I thought a rose was a flower?), and worst of all, the ending was a 'pull-a-super-power-out-of-your-ass' cop-out. I mean, think about it, Rose absorbs the power of the vortex, and then can just make every dalek disintegrate at will? WHY DIDN'T THE TIME-LORDS JUST USE THAT POWER DURING THE TIME-WAR? They'd have won the whole conflict in less than 15 minutes, and all it would have cost was ONE Time-Lord ONE regeneration? They didn't think to try that? Are they thick or something? It was such LAZY writing, and it shows the worst of the never-ending inadequacies of Russell T Davies, namely that he couldn't carry a plot if it was strapped to his back. He's too busy writing smug, self-conscious jokes that only he finds funny, and that take all the tension out of the storyline, to actually think up a resolution that makes the slightest bit of sense. Nine times out of ten, it's just some kind of 'wave-a-magic-wand' cop-out, where the effect of such-and-such a deed is whatever is needed to win the day. Why does it do that? Because RTD says it does, that's why. Chris Eccleston frankly deserved a better send-off by far.
This, exactly. RTD did some good stuff, and he provided what was needed to ensure Doctor Who didn't just come back but actually STAY back. Nevertheless he consistently failed to resolve plots. His celebration of reality TV was embarrassing, and his satire seemed to be about three things: people who are too fat, people who are too large, and people who eat too much.
@@paulbeardsley4095 Rubbish Both of you. It was great that end. One of the best. Russell Davis is great as a producer. Indeed only he understood Dr Who: Moffatt could come up with really good ideas but they were done so much better by Davis. RTD made Moffat stories far better than Moffat who simply did NOT get Dr Who as a whole. The show rotted under him. From the best on TV to a show losing it's grip! Totally disagree with your comment about his reality TV Satire. It was a perfect comment on that culture which if you notice (think Kardassians etc) was dead on. Our culture is exactly that. CRAP! Which was the point! Look at the Daily Mail!
@@vladdrakul7851 Not rubbish at all, these criticisms are factually correct. Now you can argue that RTD's other qualities made up for these shortcomings, but they quite definitely are shortcomings. Good storytellers know that you cannot resolve a problem by resorting to something that wasn't mentioned earlier in the story. And don't get me started on buttons and switches that make absolutely no sense. Or, "Who needs guns when we've got... claws?"
@@vladdrakul7851 Absolutely. I don't know what Mr Beardsly is talking about. Agreed it was a perfect satire for the age of Ali G and Tony Blair. And you are right it was down hill with Moffat and into the toilet with Chibnal. And your point about Moffat's stories being done much better by Davis is of course true, See Silence in the Library', 'The Empty Child' and 'Blink'. 'The Weeping Angels' were done so poorly by Moffat. The man had great ideas but lacked insight into character growth, logic and consequences or the point of Dr Who as a whole. Many of us quit during Moffat's run and Chibnall's abortion is like Disney's Star Wars. Franchise killing garbage!
@@MegaRaven100 I think you are being obtuse. Take The End of the World. The thing with a walkway blocked by fans and the switch being at the end was beyond ridiculous. It was a situation that would never have arisen. If it had arisen, it would not have caused wood to burst into flame while leaving the Doctor's clothes untouched. The obvious solution - crawl under the fans - isn't even considered. Instead the Doctor pulls a magic solution out of his bottom - one that would have saved his friend if he's remembered he could do that. Or Boom Town. The TARDIS's hitherto unmentioned ability to turn adult creatures back into eggs is supposed to be some sort of happy ending? Let's gloss over the murderer's victims who stay dead. The Christmas Invasion. Throwing a tangerine at a button next to a door that inexplicably opens a distant trapdoor that just happens to be under the villain. Or New Earth. Let's mix all the medicine together to solve everything. Hmm, I wonder why real doctors don't do that.
Yes. I believe its "This is Gallifrey." or "This is Gallifrey, Our Childhood, Our Home." from series 4 i think. Or the David Tennant specials which are like...series 4 and a half.
No he did acknowledge that it had been done then, but says that most people didn’t remember that, so he re-did that particular thing and acted like he came up with it.
Instead of ruining the time war they should not have brought back all the time lords , they should have had the Doctor Finding good and kind homeless time lords like himself , settle on a planet and start over and tell the time lords to form a kinder society and not make the Mistakes of the Past on a “new” Galifrey. This would have been better than just having galifrey in a pocket univers and still has the Doctor as a survivor of the war
Season one was promising with the dalek story as one dalek is able to going it on its own but then they did one with alot of daleks and the doctor is able to kill them all na it was a dead fish to a great come back with promise but didn't work for me .
Series 1 is really underrated.
It is! It's a great series
Is it underrated? I find most fans saying it's the best series of the revival.
@@SpectrumStorms I just mean that most of the analysis/reaction videos these days are about the Moffat run. Also on the whole David Tenant was a more popular Doctor.
@@SpectrumStorms it was amazing but is slightly pipped, for me, by the river song/ family of blood season and Journeys end season. But yes, Christopher Eccleston was a towering Doctor.
Series 1 was my favourite series.
Everyone: ‘Dalek’ was the first episode to show a Dalek going upstairs
Remembrance of the Daleks: Am I a joke to you
Yep! I remember the look of terror on Sylvester McCoy's face when he saw they could chase him up some stairs! Especially when he found that the door at the top was locked.
The previous Dalek story from Remembrance(forgot the title)also had them fly but it was really poorly shown.
Everyone: Oh my god Daleks can go up stairs?!
Me: Does nobody realise that Dalek's have guns?
the "through overuse, became this camp, children's gimmicky bit of silliness" thing also hapened to the cybermen. Cybus cybermen in s2 fixed it but it happened again. The thing is, both daleks and cybermen don't LOOK very scary, so unless written right, they turn campy. It's what they represent and the things they do that are scary. The concepts....
They just overuse the catch phrases and keep stopping them from actually being the killing monstrosities they are.
Although Cybermen are just frankly overused in modern Who. Too many times since the 12th doctor as a finale filler villain.
The lone cyberman from the last season shows this very well : he's got a cool, scary design, has a new-ish concept of hybrid / half-upgraded cyberman from the far future, he comes from the great cyber war, carries an insanely powerful cybercomputer in him and a weapon of mass destruction, we're told he's gonna be scary, his arrival is somewhat scary, he's gonna be a major antagonist that actually nearly wipped mankind and all... but get taken off for a cheap joke and a plot device latter on.
Don't forget the Dalek/Cyberman handbag fight in the cellar at Torchwood.
The Doctor : "No! ‘Cause this is what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna rescue her. I’m gonna save Rose Tyler from the middle of the Dalek fleet, and then I’m gonna save the Earth. And then-just to finish off-I’m gonna wipe every last stinking Dalek out of the sky!"
Dalek: But you have no weapons, no defenses, no plan.
The Doctor: Yeah! And doesn’t that scare you to death.
As a child in the 1960s and a watcher of Doctor Who since the second ever story, I can honestly say that this is the only occasion in which a childhood icon has been updated and not ruined. The new dalek design was a work of genius, encapsulating their very essence from my childhood and actually managing to improve them and make them far more menacing; the swivelling mid section was inspired, as was the sucker becoming a device that could manipulate. I'll say nothing about the "Fisher Price" daleks that followed though. I wish the relaunched Thunderbirds had come even within spitting distance of pulling off the same trick, but sadly not.
I'd have said even the subsequent 'Fisher Price' daleks couldn't been good, better even, had they been treated as seriously as they were in RTD-era Who.
I liked Dalek but I always end up disapoitned when they suddenly bring armies of Daleks around, but they they just get instantly taken out by a plot device. It really undercuts their menace for me. Though I did at least like the concept of Dalaks take Manhatten of the irony of the Dalaks creating a Dalak that can think outside the box to save their species, only to turn against and destroy him because, well, his solution went against their values. Though the fact the Dalaks will never actually die out kind of undercuts that too.
Them dying out at some point doesnt even mean we cant see them again cuz, well, time travel shenanigans. Its a bit of a let down that its never really happened..
Same as having companions who die in every other episode and get revived the following week.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 That's annoying too, but but it really gets hard for me to take the Dalaks seriously because I know any time they show up in force they'll probably just get deus ex'd away. IMO they should be used more sparingly, and in fewer numbers, rather than full armies of them popping up, at least if they actually want me to take them seriously.
@@MalzraAirwynn you make good points. In the original series they were a sort of recurring annoyance. Sneaky little dustbins turning up and causing trouble. Part of this approach was of course the difficulty in presenting large numbers on a limited budget. But that just made the writers more ingenious (with some apalling exceptions!). Now there is CGI and it's "More more more". I find seeing a million Daleks flying out of a giant spaceship like a swarm of gnats far less threatening than one Dalek determinedly, relentlessly and almost leisurely hunting down its prey.
@@zacmumblethunder7466I am the opposite the sight of million of daleks is more unnerving
And eccleston. G'damn that guy could act.
He is the most menacing of all doctors.
Like unbrewed fire, bubbling and nearly lethal.
Lone Dalek work better than in groups of Daleks.
Inverse ninja rule. A single enemy must be a threat on it's own, a number of enemies are only a threat collectively.
@@Sorain1 "Conservation of Ninjutsu".
I wish Christopher Eccleston had more than one season/series.
I hate when actors leave something good "for their career"... it never works! Why leave a paying job for a stupid reason?
Often times you get convoluted story telling to explain their leaving, but at least we got David Tennant out of the mess... so that's okay.
Frank Rappa
I couldn't get into David Tennant because I just wasn't ready to let go of Chris Eccleston.
@@DanteYewToob It's gradually come out through various sources that Eccleston objected to bullying he had witnessed in the production team. He tackled the three showrunners about it and was disgusted at their reluctance to deal with it. All Eccleston will say is that he clashed with three members of the team (the most he has ever said on the subject was in a Radio 4 interview on "Loose Ends". Despite Clive Anderson pressing for more details, Eccleston maintained that it would be unethical to go into details).
Various stories have emerged in newspaper and magazine articles over the years but the actual details as to what form the alleged bullying took remain obscure.
RTD did say in interviews while the show was in production that he and the other executives would do anything to ensure the new series was a success.
The production team gave several different reasons for Eccleston's decision to leave:
Fear of being typecast. This is the one that is most quoted. Seems unlikely as he had been in several series of Cracker and had taken other roles with no problem.
RTD gave an interview once where he stated he always planned to cast an actor for the first season only in order to reintroduce the viewers to the concept of regeneration as soon as possible.
I went to a Dr Who event where one if the production team said that they'd always wanted David Tennant for the role but he was tied up elsewhere and production could not be delayed so Eccleston agreed to be a "Placeholder" doctor.
I've heard a variation on this last one that the BBC were reluctant to give the lead role to an unknown actor as Tennant then was.
Honestly, I think it's better he left early. He went off on a really high note and David Tennant filled the role as successor beautifully. Nothing but fond memories of those two as the Doctor.
@@davidgraham8299 Took me a bit to get into him, too, but once I did I was hooked. He was a great follow-up for Eccleston's more serious (but still sometimes whimsical) Doctor.
T. Davies run was amazing. It went on a downward trajectory after he left.
I don't think so mat and capoldi where amazing doctors
@@0joshdude I think the actors where great. I just don't think the show as a whole was as good when under Moffat.
@@THE_TonyFielding to be fear it hard to keep up with RTD but we got him back again
I liked the River song arc
Dalek was a great story, but then the whole army of them just made them shit again for me. The Daleks are always better when they are heavily out-numbered. Well, except for that one with the pigmen in the 20s.
Really? That's an interesting take! I think the army works so well because of Dalek establishing how threatening a single Dalek is
@@HarboWholmes It's not as bad as later ones, but it still set up the idea that a billion of them can be defeated by opening a drawer. I think they are always best when they have to use trickery to get their way, like that story where their weapons didn't work, or the one where they pretended to be servants while secretly operating a factory line.
I think it was a bit more complicated than 'opening a drawer' but I get what you mean haha!
Or as I call it, the Spider-Pig episode.
It worked in Parting of the Ways because they were literally unstoppable to the point where the Doctor went straight for the nuclear option and took some God type entity to destroy them. I liked them in Series 2 and 3 (yes I liked Daleks in Manhattan fight me) but Series 4 turned them into a joke with Journey's End and they've never recovered.
The Daleks hold a special place with me.
The episode ‘Dalek’ was my first Doctor Who episode.
Same
Dr. Who and the Daleks with Peter Cushing
thats the same for me with midnight which i watched with my cousins
I feel like naming the episode Dalek was a massive mistake. They should have named it something like "The Museum".
True. It could have been a good reveal if there was nothing to tell us the deathly pepper pots were back.
Or the Metaltron, given I think that's what Statton called it before the Doctor showed up and it's true name was revealed
Maybe, maybe you're thinking of that World War 2 two-parter. But that'd be a good name. "Metaltron".
@@dominickeijzer5844 I think they were called Ironsides in that episode.
According to the wiki the Dalek from the episode Dalek is called Metaltron tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Metaltron
The WW2 Two-part episode of Matt Smith, they were called ironsides.
Season 1: We can't let the Daleks be a joke.
Last few years: *Snorts a sleeve of coke* I have a brilliant idea!
You mean Series 3 onwards.
Damn the feelings this video brought back are crazy. Keep up the amazing work man. Its very cool seeing something I'm so familiar with broken down like this.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it ☺️
The sucker scene in dalek terrified me as a kid
Oh man, that one lone dalek was really scary. Holy shit! There’s like a million of them now!
Oh shit now they are power rangers! You gotta love the diversity of Doctor Who.
And thats a problem. The Daleks went, again, from ball squeezing terrifying to over inflated annoyance. -.-
Law of diminishing returns
TheExplodingChipmunk no
Turns out Daleks are subject to Inverse Ninja Law.
Shame doctor who channels don’t get many subscribers, u all put a lot of effort in and it’s amazing. Hope your channel gets bigger
Thank you so much!
I've never understood the "Daleks can't go up stairs" thing. The third time we saw Daleks, in the Chase, they went up stairs! And it was more or less implied in Dalek invasion of Earth as well.
Yes, there's a Dalek on the upper floor of a ruined building. I think there was a reference in the script to them being able to go anywhere.
then they showed it in Remembrance of the Daleks. but we know Who was always a small budget show so had to work within those limitations
@@somthingbrutal They also tried to show it in Revelation of the Daleks, but the FX shot didn't work. Fixed for the DVD.
The point being, that with the exception of their first appearance (when they also couldn't leave the metal floor of their city) they've always been able to go up stairs. Why did this ever become a thing?
Destiny of the Daleks implied they couldn't hover.
Back when Doctor Who was great and not too meta. Felt like actual sci-fi.
Davies new how to write Daleks. Even Journey's End/The Stolen Earth and Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways were a good way to have a Dalek army. However, Dalek and Doomsday provided the horror that a few Daleks can cause, even to trained military and Cybermen. Daleks in Manhattan and Victory of the Daleks came close, but no cigar. And since then....nah.
I believe that the scope of Jubilee was much wider, being about what the world was like, with the Dalke part only being one subplot. Dalek cut it down to 45 minutes, putting the focus on the Dalke part.
Jubilee was a novel, so bound to have wider themes than a 45-minute episode.
No, it was an audio drama.
Dalek*
The lost episodes of the Evil of the Daleks back in the Patrick Troughton era explains the introduction of the human factor into Darlek DNA. So it could resurface in the episode Dalek. The modern writers know their Who.
Alan Brookes I don’t recall DNA being mentioned in Evil. The idea of the human factor was that it was meant to make the Daleks think and behave like humans.
I dislike the way DNA is used as a buzzword for some magical phenomenon that has nothing to do with actual DNA. This is one of the reasons why you need to switch parts of your brain off to enjoy Dalek. It’s basically a story about a robot monster going on a killing spree; it really is no deeper than that.
I feel like the Daleks are more horrific when written as forged from the scraps that humanity provides, not even being an emotionless husk of humanity like a cyberman but being a corrupted part of a person with some modification repurposed to feel genocidal against its own former fellow people, made to be a mix of hate and arrogance from what can be salvaged from the filth of humanity. Hence why when the doctor shows his rage, the Daleks admire it and say he would be a good Dalek. I feel the monsters I feared most were the ones that I could see myself becoming and being corrupted into, a shell of what humanity I had left, repurposed for destruction. That is why "pure" daleks intimidate me less, one laser beam and I die? When my central nervous system is hijacked to cause suffering and twist the repressed rage within me, that is what scares me. Becoming a monster against my will.
I completely agree with all that. The subtle storyline in the background, RTD was so good at that. Moffat just didn't seem to get the idea, so instead the Daleks forgot about the Doctor, had a bit of Mercy from young Davros, as well as that bit about shouting exterminate to reload. No regard for continuity in general really.
The truth is, nearly every Dalek story contradicts nearly every other Dalek story.
@@paulbeardsley4095 Not that many, just Moffat's and some of the classic designs.
Richard Bilton No, pretty much all of them.
Death to the Daleks - they use telekinesis to move around.
Destiny of the Daleks - The Daleks are robots.
Genesis of the Daleks - what happened to the Dals? What about the established origins?
The Daleks - How come static electricity is only mentioned in one other story? How come they didn’t need a floor supply In Genesis?
Dalek Invasion of Earth - set a million years before the original Dalek story? How does that work?
And how many times did Davros get killed, only to come back with a rubbishy explanation?
@@paulbeardsley4095 Did they say they were robots or robotic and only capable of logical thinking?
I think the Doctor's presence in Genesis altered Dalek history as they were trapped in the bunker for a while. The Kaled name could have been lost to the Thals by the time of The Daleks - also, we don't know when this is set within the Dalek timeline.
The only reappearance of Davros that isn't explained is the last one.
@@10thdoctor15 "Did they say they were robots or robotic and only capable of logical thinking?"
They said they were robots, and even pointed out that they USED TO have a creature inside.
"I think the Doctor's presence in Genesis altered Dalek history as they were trapped in the bunker for a while."
Irrelevant.
"The Kaled name could have been lost to the Thals by the time of The Daleks"
The Thals had historical records which included pictures. The origin stories of The Daleks and Genesis - not to mention the Zolfian and Yarvelling accounts - are contradictory.
"The only reappearance of Davros that isn't explained is the last one."
Given that we didn't see him die in his previous appearance, that's pretty small potatoes.
At the end of Genesis, Davros was quite clearly killed. It was the dramatic point of the story - like Victor Frankenstein, he was killed by his own creation. His remains were left in a bunker for centuries, during which time the Daleks presumably moved around him while he gathered dust and cobwebs - not one of them thought of disposing of the body. Then, long after they'd left Skaro, a Dalek got the idea that maybe he wasn't dead after all - much like us thinking Henry VIII might not be dead - so they literally dug him up. Davros then magically came back to life and muttered some bollocks about a hitherto unmentioned secondary life support.
As if he wasn't already dead enough, his last moments in Resurrection of the Daleks see him infected by a deadly virus. This is not mentioned when he turns up in Revelation.
This is all par for the course for Doctor Who. You either accept it or reject it.
But whatever you do, you don't pretend the contradictions started with Moffat.
Even thought the Daleks were generally deus ex'd away with a reset button in RTD's era, there was usually a heavy price to pay for pressing it, which kind of kept them interesting. S1 nailed it, but the S4 finale was stretching it a bit.
You gotta love how the Dalek keeps eyestalkcontact while floating up the stairs to assert dominance.
How have I only now just found Your Channel! great content.
Thank you!
Not really anything to do with anything here, but I kinda wish Doctor Who would take a page out of DBZ and make the new companions out of the old antagonists. 12 came really close with Missy and Rusty and a certain retro Cyberman, but they were too afraid to really mix things up. 11 also had the dinosaur lady and the dude who kept calling Clara a boy.
You mean Madame Vastra (Silurian) and Strax (Sontaran)
Lee Dent, But that never happened on screen.
@@paladinboyd1228 I guess you are replying to my other comment but what makes it scary is the implication, it doesn't have to be graphic and is sometimes even scarier if it goes unseen. Daleks zap you and you cease to be, all they do is cut your life a bit short.
I watched this recently. The dales harvested humans for their DNA, but only one cell in every billion was deemed "pure" enough to become "blessed Dalek". The process took centuries, harvesting every unlucky loser at the game station. Its actually pretty horrific!
Mate, this channel JUST got recommended and as the Doctor Who fan I am I had to check it out. This is my first vid and I LOVE your channel so far! "Dalek" is my third fav episode of new who and Series 1 is my second fav series so this just validates how great of a writer RTD and Shearman are XD Golden age of Doctor Who right here!
The first time I saw the Dalek episode was literally the first time I ever saw a dalek story, because I'm a new generation fan. I've since then grown to love the classic series, but I joined the fandom way late, with the 2005 series. Before then I had little to no idea what a dalek was, but the way it was shown to me here is honestly brilliant and it goes to show how good of a job they did.
The first time I saw the character I laughed a little, because of how goofy it looked. It still looks like a retro sci fi alien, so I wrongfully assumed that the threat it posed would be really forced because of their attempt to bank on the nostalgia of an old classic and recognizable design. It was only later in the episode when you saw how mobile it actually was, that I realized it's a fantastic killing machine and an incredible menace. They made sure Eccleston delivered like "The Dalek's a genius", when he warned about what it was capable of, and we saw it hack a super computer in seconds and breach a locked door through brute force on the keypad.
It was amazing really.... they introduced me to this villain and then made me completely change my mind about it within like 20 minutes. The foreshadowing and exposition of the Russel era deserves a study on its own, because they really nailed it when it comes to teaching new fans how to care about something they have no experience with, at the same time as they deliver fan service. Another favorite episode of mine was School Reunion, which brought back Sarah Jane and K9. As a new fan, I didn't know who these characters were either, but the show just did such a wonderful job at selling the idea that what was happening on screen was important. It's like you could feel the history behind these characters and you really believed how much The Doctor cared. You knew there was a bigger picture, but most importantly, the story itself was self-contained and coherent without knowing old lore, and that's hard to do sometimes.
When K9 sacrificed himself you really felt that hit. It's still one of my favorite moments from the whole show.
the russel T davies era was by far the golden age of the show, while it did admittedly have its duds it was by far the most consistently good era of the show with classic episode after classic episode.
moffats era mostly had the season finales and 1 or 2 stand out episodes within their entire season definitely giving the impression he's better at making individual episodes as opposed to managing series long arcs and by far the daleks show this, the first moffat dalek episode pretty much resets the daleks, removing them as scavangers and giving them purity once again, the doctors anger of the species even existing just fades in subsequent episodes.
while i'll admit the tennant era daleks aren't the most reaction inducing, my god they're used to great effect with challanging morality whether that be his own, showing just how evil they are or my favourite how he's turned his companions into living weapons. while i do wish the daleks could return to be the threats they were with the whole retconning of the time war to where gallifrey is still alive and the daleks are back to their max strength there's just no interesting things you can do with them anymore, or at least not to the level of the insane human hybrids.
For me the cult of Skaro were the last time the Daleks were really a threat, the war against the Cybermen is my favourite collection of episodes, hearing a Daleks saying "the cyberman are only better in one way, and that is dying" is always a great line to me and just shows how superior the daleks thin and know they are
You know? At some point I feel they for some reason explain and show everything, and that pretty much ruined a lot of stuff for me. I always really loved the ambivalence and vagueness of the time war. The short glimpses of enormous ruins and titanic Daleks we got to see, the wipers and small tidbits of information that pained an image of something that could have come from the pen of Lovecraft. Stuff like the Nightmare Child, the Could have been King with his army of neverweres and meanwhiles. That really got the chills going and made you wander, what is terrible enouth to make the doctor speak in such terrified tones about it. And then the needed more Daleks, more Time Lords, showed parts of the time war. And obviously it fell flat for me. The same with the Weeping angles. The first episode was terrifying. The things not only were creepy as hell, but hat some nice metha nightmare fuel (they get triggered by ALL observers, even those who should not be there, the viewers). But then they showed them moving and the spell was broken. And don't get me started on the new season. They manage to pack that whole thing in ONE episode. The Master reveal was really good. Did not see not coming at all but went back and it was really well executed. But after that? Every episode starts really interesting and actually good, but always finds a way to turn stupid.
Finally, someone else that thinks the Nightmare Child should've been a Lovecraftian intergalactic Eldritch horror! I hate that they revealed what it was. 'The jaws of the Nightmare Child' was a line that has honestly stuck with me ever since Stolen Earth aired, but then in a book they were just like 'eh it was like, this SUPER CRAZY rogue experiment Dalek, guys, it was so crazy, you have no idea, trust us'
The problem with over saturation of villains exists in many popular scifi shows. They start out scary and mysterious and then they because a parody of themselves. Think of the Wraiths in Stargate Atlantis, started as horrific vampires and ended up cowardly weaklings. The Cylons in 2003 Galatics, start out scary end up just douchebags. The Borg in Startrek, scariest villian in scifi turned out pathetic and idiotic after Voyager and STPicard.
This is one of my favourite episodes or new Who! It was really cool seeing a Dalek with high budget special effects so that rather than just a silly thing that looks like a vacuum cleaner with a plunger sticking out like in Classic Who (which I also love), it was actually believable to be a high tech and dangerous enemy capable of taking out the military.
I loved the xrag effect they used to use for daleks killing people, it might be a bit dated now but it still looks really cool
That was excellent mate, well done.
Did Russell T Davies really co-authorize an article about how to bring back the Daleks? Did Steven Moffat really give it a review?
Yes, and yes.
May I see it?
I loved how detailed Moffat's stories were. The whole Bad Wolf 'meme' sitting in plain sight having no meaning until it was given one. Then when you rewatch the episodes and realise that it was there the whole time. ALSO in the episodes leading up to 'Turn Left' (coincidentally featuring Bad Wolf again), there are screens in the background of some shots featuring Rose shouting for the Doctor. You never see them until you really look, then they're so obvious when you know.
He made the classic villains scary again and made the series feel more grown-up and at a similar level to the 'Torchwood' series (minus the swearing and blatant sex references). Then S5 and Matt Smith came along and it turned into a kid's programme again.
God I miss RTD ❤️
You make great videos and you know a lot about how it was made
It would have been cool if in The Parting of the Ways there was a way that we could just see a smidgen of the Daleks invading the Earth below because it's a fact that can get overlooked about that story because it's more told and not shown. I know in some instances that's better but I thought it could have really added that extra umph to an already stellar finale.
Makes me wonder if the other three members of the Cult of Skaro would've turned against Dalek Sec in Evolution of the Daleks if they knew what their Emperor did to survive, making Human-Dalek hybrids and proclaiming himself to be the "God of all Daleks". I wonder what Sec would've thought of that...
2005 is a good year for much...
Great video!
i just got a jake from statefarm ad before watching this in mid 2020, so that put me in a weird mood
Great video😀
Thank you!
Oh my days! Halcyon days indeed. Thanks for this retrospective. 😁
With Daleks there's always a danger of them becoming too ridiculous to take seriously. But fir the most part, series 1-4 managed to straddle that line between riduculous and dangerous very well.
Dalek really did do a genius job at reintroducing the Daleks to a new generation. I'm glad that Chibnall later used it as a template for Resolution, which doesn't get enough credit for doing a similarly amazing job at establishing how big a threat just one Dalek alone can be.
Ah fuck, I clicked on a Doctor Who video. Now TH-cam will recommend these videos to me for another 3 months.
TBH Russel Davies brought back doctor who perfectly in my opinion
Nice cliffhanger design!
Resolution is the best Dalek story since journey’s end.
huh, a half-human/Dalek hybrid?
*checks to see who wrote Clara's last episode*
I love the first few seasons of the revive. Even into series 6 and some of series 7...
Just watch it again the episode today and compared of how much they use the daleks on empty story's like cof cof "eve of the daleks" and many many others, i could only miss the way that they treated the daleks as a real danger back then.
Have to agree about the episode Dalek. I was a bit "meh" about the new series till then but it brought the very best out of Chris and made even a single Dalek a terrifying prospect.
Still the best Dalek episode from new Who imo.
isn't the dalek plot about the DNA thing the same as in Ben 10 "War of the World's"?
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The whole plot from Alien Force is very similar to what's going on here
did you know that humans knowing the daleks in the two part finale for series 1 was also a plant for Series 4
There was a Dalek floating up some stairs in Remembrance, though...
Those things didn't need fixing. The Daleks could go upstairs in the Classic series. It was indicated in Revelation of the Daleks and established in Rememberance. The sink plungers were clearly shown ithroughout the classice series as a device for carrying things.
i guess i'm strange... i didn't realize there was a Dalek problem pre-series 1. most of my favorite Dalek stories were from the classic show. but, each to his own :)
I think Chibbers could do well getting a good writer to adapt their Big Finish story, or like Paul Cornell did with his Human Nature novel. Hell, just get PC to write some episodes of season 13
So there is no part 2 ?
Why does everyone assume Dalek's can't float? There were floating back in the Origional run. So I'm trying to work out where there is a problem which needs to be fixed.
Great video
Where's part 2 of this video? Or what's it called?
You mean part 1
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This is part 1, isn't it?
@@OtakuJuanma2 no this is part 2
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Part 3 is this: th-cam.com/video/bXYKu6fkzi8/w-d-xo.html
And part 4 is this: th-cam.com/video/ZN1_Cbcsi1c/w-d-xo.html
Did they ever bother to explain where they got all the Dalekanium from to make all the ships and travel suits?
Even though you mention Rememberence Of The Daleks, you failed to mention that a dalek does climb stairs in that story. Albeit it "Elevates" itself, The Doctor does see it happen because it happens to him.
The climbing issue was addressed years before. Not sure how this is still brought up?
Because by the McCoy era people had stopped watching, whereas the cartoon of the Daleks saying, "This buggers up our plans to conquer the universe" (on observing a flight of stairs) was much higher up in public consciousness.
@@paulbeardsley4095 That wasn't even the first example levitation in Dalek canon, but I guess people will always take stupid memes over reality.
"Reality" in Dr. Who he says! :-P
xxno464xx85 Yes, I’m aware of Davros’s levitating chair in Revelation, and even the Daleks on different levels of the Marie - er, Mary - Celeste. But public perception is what really counts.
@@paulbeardsley4095 Yeah, always the way.
Nice touch on this is the story where i die
I agree with this about 'Dalek', which I think was the standout episode of the Eccleston season, but not with much else. 'Parting Of The Ways' was a very unsatisfactory conclusion. Partly, the half-human-half-dalek thing not only contradicts the earlier story, but also feels like a throwaway explanation, and has nothing to do with the story. The whole 'Big Brother' theme of the two-parter is corny, partly because, rather than satirising Reality TV programmes, it's exactly the same as Reality TV programmes. The resolution to the 'Bad Wolf' running theme is utterly meaningless (why is Rose a 'bad wolf' exactly? I thought a rose was a flower?), and worst of all, the ending was a 'pull-a-super-power-out-of-your-ass' cop-out. I mean, think about it, Rose absorbs the power of the vortex, and then can just make every dalek disintegrate at will? WHY DIDN'T THE TIME-LORDS JUST USE THAT POWER DURING THE TIME-WAR? They'd have won the whole conflict in less than 15 minutes, and all it would have cost was ONE Time-Lord ONE regeneration? They didn't think to try that? Are they thick or something? It was such LAZY writing, and it shows the worst of the never-ending inadequacies of Russell T Davies, namely that he couldn't carry a plot if it was strapped to his back. He's too busy writing smug, self-conscious jokes that only he finds funny, and that take all the tension out of the storyline, to actually think up a resolution that makes the slightest bit of sense. Nine times out of ten, it's just some kind of 'wave-a-magic-wand' cop-out, where the effect of such-and-such a deed is whatever is needed to win the day. Why does it do that? Because RTD says it does, that's why.
Chris Eccleston frankly deserved a better send-off by far.
This, exactly.
RTD did some good stuff, and he provided what was needed to ensure Doctor Who didn't just come back but actually STAY back. Nevertheless he consistently failed to resolve plots. His celebration of reality TV was embarrassing, and his satire seemed to be about three things: people who are too fat, people who are too large, and people who eat too much.
@@paulbeardsley4095 Rubbish Both of you. It was great that end. One of the best. Russell Davis is great as a producer. Indeed only he understood Dr Who: Moffatt could come up with really good ideas but they were done so much better by Davis. RTD made Moffat stories far better than Moffat who simply did NOT get Dr Who as a whole. The show rotted under him. From the best on TV to a show losing it's grip! Totally disagree with your comment about his reality TV Satire. It was a perfect comment on that culture which if you notice (think Kardassians etc) was dead on. Our culture is exactly that. CRAP! Which was the point! Look at the Daily Mail!
@@vladdrakul7851 Not rubbish at all, these criticisms are factually correct. Now you can argue that RTD's other qualities made up for these shortcomings, but they quite definitely are shortcomings.
Good storytellers know that you cannot resolve a problem by resorting to something that wasn't mentioned earlier in the story.
And don't get me started on buttons and switches that make absolutely no sense.
Or, "Who needs guns when we've got... claws?"
@@vladdrakul7851 Absolutely. I don't know what Mr Beardsly is talking about. Agreed it was a perfect satire for the age of Ali G and Tony Blair. And you are right it was down hill with Moffat and into the toilet with Chibnal. And your point about Moffat's stories being done much better by Davis is of course true, See Silence in the Library', 'The Empty Child' and 'Blink'. 'The Weeping Angels' were done so poorly by Moffat. The man had great ideas but lacked insight into character growth, logic and consequences or the point of Dr Who as a whole. Many of us quit during Moffat's run and Chibnall's abortion is like Disney's Star Wars. Franchise killing garbage!
@@MegaRaven100 I think you are being obtuse.
Take The End of the World. The thing with a walkway blocked by fans and the switch being at the end was beyond ridiculous. It was a situation that would never have arisen. If it had arisen, it would not have caused wood to burst into flame while leaving the Doctor's clothes untouched. The obvious solution - crawl under the fans - isn't even considered. Instead the Doctor pulls a magic solution out of his bottom - one that would have saved his friend if he's remembered he could do that.
Or Boom Town. The TARDIS's hitherto unmentioned ability to turn adult creatures back into eggs is supposed to be some sort of happy ending? Let's gloss over the murderer's victims who stay dead.
The Christmas Invasion. Throwing a tangerine at a button next to a door that inexplicably opens a distant trapdoor that just happens to be under the villain.
Or New Earth. Let's mix all the medicine together to solve everything. Hmm, I wonder why real doctors don't do that.
wut vid is part 1
Is the intro music part of doctor who scores? Sounds familiar.
Yes. I believe its "This is Gallifrey." or "This is Gallifrey, Our Childhood, Our Home." from series 4 i think. Or the David Tennant specials which are like...series 4 and a half.
Mentions Remembrance of the daleks then mentions them flying in the episode 'Dalek' but doesn't mention levitating up the stairs in Rememberance.
No he did acknowledge that it had been done then, but says that most people didn’t remember that, so he re-did that particular thing and acted like he came up with it.
Me: Haven't watched Dr Who in years
Also me: Haven't watched anything on youtube about Dr Who
TH-cam algorithm: I got you fam.
Hello to one Wholmes from another.
Instead of ruining the time war they should not have brought back all the time lords , they should have had the Doctor Finding good and kind homeless time lords like himself , settle on a planet and start over and tell the time lords to form a kinder society and not make the Mistakes of the Past on a “new” Galifrey. This would have been better than just having galifrey in a pocket univers and still has the Doctor as a survivor of the war
Christ I love Dr who
Seagulls at 7:45
"stop it now"
Remembrance of the Daleks did the stairs bit first. I feel Shearman (and this video) are unduly shitting on Remembrance.
Waitwaitwait. So they went from a man called Rochester but settled on Staten?
Was it entertaining?
Hugely.
But was it deep?
Absolutely not. In fact, it's necessary to turn one's brain off for quite a lot of it.
After Rememberance, they didn't need fixing. Shearman did good, though.
Then Steven Moffat turned them into camp siilness
they were last seen in the film
Nope, at least not visually. They only appear offscreen for like, 10 seconds right at the start
omg that woman from episode 7 is Black Lighning's wife
am I the only one who thought about Clara?
Next episode. How Series 4 and beyond ruined the Daleks.
Christopher should of done another series
And how they broke again
Season one was promising with the dalek story as one dalek is able to going it on its own but then they did one with alot of daleks and the doctor is able to kill them all na it was a dead fish to a great come back with promise but didn't work for me .
Can you imagine if the Toclafane took the Dalek's place? I think Series 1 would have been the last series for many years to come.
I loved Dalek. I would have been happy if they'd never returned again.
That episode had me scared, I was only 6
and then Moffat came in and ruined the whole thing
Coward...any day
Bring back the Dalek Emperor!
Too good villain, Davros is overused and boring.
now RTD is back we have to pray.