......... but....................... Kaido wasn't Yonko level back then.......................... so it's ok..... everything is O. K. ............... sniff
@@therealsamasima Did the narrator in Dressrosa say Kaido won't lose 1 v 1? NO. He only said, "If it's 1 on 1, bet on Kaido". In fact, he even stated that Kaido has lost seven times already and has been captured many times. Kaido is NOT over rated. Also, no one called Kaido a "god", that's just your head canon.
We can’t take what the narrator said 20 years later and apply it to the time when oden and kaido fought. I’m sure back during this time there were at least 4 people who could possibly beat kaido 1v1. Whitebeard, Garp, Big Mom ,and roger had just died
Jose PImentel dude casually falls 10000 feet and your concerned about his drinking... that alcohol probably has the same effect as water to a normal human to him
@John permeswar dude it was already stated kaido and big mom got WAY stronger over the years. that was a non prime kaido aka the kaido now is stronger. he was way too cocky against a man he underestimated
Correction, CURRENT Kaido wants to die. It's been like 20 years since he was nearly killed by Oden. Nobody has been able to injure him since which is probably why he wants to die.
@@Shoddragon Should have fought Whitebeard before marineford. Aims capturing the world. Claims he can't be killed. Then, Go try killing off Sichibukai or attack the marine admirals or try defeating the other Yonkos. That would get him hurt badly.
Hour of Legends hasn't happened yet. Have faith in Oda. Not nearly as bad as Naruto's and Bleach's Fails. Plus how can you say the pacing is bad when you trashed dressrosa for being to slow.
Kingu on Luffy after he had Nami help with the biscuits against Cracker: WOW LUFFY WHY ARE YOU SO SCRUBBY THIS IS BAD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! Kingu on Kaido after he needed help from the old bag in order to not be beheaded by Oden: WOW SNEAK ATTACK 10/10
I feel like people aren't fully grasping everything we've had in the flashbacks and information relayed to us beforehand. First off, Sengoku's statement that Big Mom and Kaido got stronger is in reference to when they were onboard the Rocks Pirates vs when they became established Pirates. We know he meant it like that and not "they are stronger now than 20 years ago" because Big Mom and Kaido were already established Emperors when Roger was nearing the end of his voyage and Whitebeard was already stalemating with Roger years before he found Laugh Tale. On top of that, Sengoku's statement was specifically in reference to the fact that they eventually got stronger after Garp and Roger kicked their asses. Kaido is probably about as strong now as he was when he fought Oden, Oden is just that strong. The man took an attack from Gol. D roger and survived with minimal damage and managed to clash with a semi-serious Whitebeard previously. There are 2 things that also seal the deal for me personally: Kaido SPECIFICALLY compares Oden to Whitebeard and Roger, claiming they were extremely powerful but far too kind (indicating that Kaido was aware of two other people who could injure him). We also get the narration that Oden's strength was vastly underestimated, meaning that it's unlikely Kaido was weaker than he is now and Oden was simply that crazy strong.
I was one of those people that thought Kaido was weaker 20 years ago. After reading this, you might be right. But hey, he probably got a little stronger, right?
M Mullz and I agree with you. Oden was a beast when it came to growth rate, and very much was on the tier of people like Koby, Luffy, and Shanks in that regard. Like I have always said, I believe if Oden had survived and kept training, he would definitely get to Yonko level, but the fact is that he died before reaching those heights.
Kaido is strong but ya'll need to understand that he was defeated 7 times and was captured 18 times. The dude has to take a few L's he ain't invincible.
You think roger and Whitebeard never got defeated, but they will never use dirty methods to win........ I m not saying kaido is weak but kaido fanboys were rating him above Whitebeard just like zorotards rating zoro above luffy. In my opinion big mom is current strongest yonko she was just like oden strong since childhood.
All jokes aside, I'm not mad with how the fight turned out. My only issue with this chapter was the pacing and Oden's attack. I didn't feel anything when he slashed Kaido. Hopefully the anime fixes that. That being said, overall a good chapter 7.5/10.
the anime has fucked up almost every single fight with massive amounts of filler and outright changing certain things to make some villains seem way stronger than they are and sometimes make the good guys seem stronger than they are. I would lower your expectations tremendously my friend.
This is a Great set-up chapter. We all knew that oda wasn't gonna show the battles in a flashback because of the upcoming war. Now if Oda starts to skip fights real-time in the war then there's a problem.
@white america's worst nightmare If WB dont get a heart attack I think even In his Old form he was stronger than Kaido and BigMom I really do maybe not as Durable but in terms of Offensive capabilities hes stronger I think
@@SnowyWolborg During that time Roger and Whitebeard was considered the strongest. And Oden is well known in Wano for his strength. Pretty sure it makes sense that he can land a slash on Kaido. And Kaido isn't invincible either. The dude was defeated 7 times and captured 18 times. Ya'll acting like he can win every 1v1
Remember that Katakuri was over hyped by his family. Pirates raise to greatness through strength and trickery, some of them through trickery only, namely Buggy
I just personally didnt like the pacing of this chapter at all. I was expecting this epic build up for the only attack known to have severely damaged Kaido. But it just... kind of happened i guess? Even the chapter is called Oden vs Kaido but its literally just a few panels. Im fine with the outcome but im definitely not fine with the execution.
@@konstantinkachanovsky2960 with that however it was a recap from jinbei just talking about it this however was the main focus point of the chapter no cuts no other subplots just one fight between two characters no excuse for it being pace atrociously
Yo KOL. This wasn’t the hour of legends. Why would an event that was reacted so coldly by citizens of wano as seen at the end of the chapter be regarded as the hour of legends? Seems like the escape from execution will be that hour
I'm surprised KOL didn't react to the old lady having access to Momonosuke as a transformation... like that means at one point she has been close enough to the Kozuki family to touch his cheek... HOW DEEP IN WAS THE SPY MAN
All Sengoku said was that Big Mom and Kaido grew stronger after 33 years ago. We don't know exactly when they peaked, but we can assume that at the very least it had to happen before Gold Roger was executed, cause White Beard was almost Roger's equal and unless Kol wants to claim that the yonko currently are stronger than the pirate king, then their's no way kaido was that weak 20 years ago. Oden is just THAT powerful.
We even see Whitebeard fight Roger and see that it ended in a stalemate. Which means that Big Mom and Kaido likely hit their peaks not too long after at the latest.
Kaido was most likely yonko level already. Sengoku was referring to Kaido 40 years ago, not 20 years ago. Unless you think Borsalino and BM were weaker 20 years ago.
It was a sad chapter for everyone. Chad Oden is going get killed in the next chapter or 2. Then Kaido suffering an major scar with his fight with Oden.
KOL fucking struggling to come terms with Kaido's performance 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the live stream was wild, especially when the round table just started. That intro monologue was spectacular !!!
I'm confused how this takes anything away from Kaido? He took out Luffy in one attack and also Oden in one attack? Oden is the only one to cut him. plus this was Kaido 20 years ago, what was everyone expecting?
Joocy PaleOrc maybe or maybe not, we’ll never know, and even if Oden was stronger than Kaido that would be reasonable. Oden just conquered the grand line. Kaido was 20 years younger than present time. Look at Luffys growth in 2 years.
Doffy Kaido definitely got better, you don’t become yonkou by getting worse. The admirals are like in there 50s, in one piece people don’t decline till much later in age.
What's wrong with a good ol' sneak attack? "Honor"? "Principle"? "Code"? The only crime in battle is _to lose_ If that doesn't apply, it just means it's a petty fight over something not even worth fighting for.
it's not a fact that Kaido will win in one on one, it's a rumor spreading around the world of one piece,. it says "if it's one on one Kaido will win, that's what people say".. The world of one piece is just like the real world with fake news, rumors etc.
Not sure how everyone else is feeling but I'm pretty disappointed with this fight. Kaido! The man looking for a place to die (at least in the present timeline), resorted to trickery to beat Oden. What?!?! He has the moniker, "if it's one on one, Kaido will win". So, what happened?? I loved him as a villain before this. Now I'm conflicted.
what happened is that this is more or less 20 years before he became a legend that he is now, he was just an apprentice not too long ago. How do you not get that? It really is not rocket science. You know how big the difference between Wano Luffy and pre TS Luffy? That's 2 plus years, this is 20 years, t-w-e-n-t-y.
A lot of people predicted Kaido won bc of a trick. I don’t mind the idea itself but the way it happened wasn’t all that great to me. As for him being suicidal, that’s how he is now but that doesn’t have to apply to his yonnger self. Something must’ve happened during the 20 years that made him change and we should find out soon enough.
@@FrozenEspada4 Yes, that's one of the reason's why. Also, it's been stated that he's looking for a place to die which implies that he's looking for something worthy enough to kill him. Trickery, in this case, is somewhat of a contradiction to that.
Yes i agree with there's no rule ......... But Queen oneshoted bigmom and it took 2 hits for big mom to takedown queen......now queen is pirate king level 😂😂🤣🤣 Think before writing bro
I'm sorry but you're not a "Kaido fanboy" lmfao. Kaido literally runs fucking slave labor camps where his minions are allowed to execute the sick and elderly if they so please, has a subordinate that makes BIO-WEAPONS (queen) and a subordinate that purposefully destroys the ecosystem of various islands for fun (Jack). The "Numbers" are implied to be alcoholics that EAT people. Are you telling me the HOSTAGE situation is what pissed you off? lmfao.
@Malik Riley- actually Oda made drawn examples with the straw hats of two good and bad 20 year time skips. Basically Shinobu had a bad twenty years look at robin from 8 to 28 and to 30 she aged great.
i just like to point out this was NOT a 1v1 this was a 11v1000 battle royale and who ever said that Kaido was above dirty tricks hell it was not even Kaido that playd dirty it was the old hag we don't KNOW if Oden whold have killd Kaido if she didn't interfere it took Kaido the 2 seconds of Oden looking away to get up and smack him to the ground
Queen also took down current bigmom so is queen pirate king level ??? Emperor like bigmom can also faint if u take a cheap shot and kaido realised thats the only moment he can win and went for it. If kaido was capable of defeating oden than he might have waited for war to resume. What do u think ??
@@rajatushar123 first what do you mean "Queen took down current Bigmom" Bigmom fell asleep and Queen then chain her up with prism stone AFTER she had slap him around second i don't know if i say that Kaido took a cheap shot to me it looke like Kaido just got up and attacked Oden in a fit of rage Oden was not looking and that's not Kaidos fault and he won the battle that's how i see therer fight
Damn Kaido in his prime was a sneaky bastard. So much for being the strongest creature in the world, even Oden could've beaten him if it wasn't for that old hag
**Kaido takes a hostage to gain an opening** Fans: *Surprised Pikachu face* That’s illegal! People seem to forget that in a Pirates fight there are no rules. Remember when Luffy used Brûlée to buy time against katakuri. Remember when Luffy used Buggy D Clown as a human shield against Mihawk? Those who fight with Honour are asking for an ass whooping 😬
Why do u forget that Luffy is only 19 years old fighting all 40+ people who are in their prime. Kaido and oden were of almost same age. And luffy won't backstab even his enemies, he ran a came back for fair fight.
@@kangaroo3731 I'm gonna have to let you try harder than that to convince me that Trebol is a competent fighter comparable to Law and an entire country backing up Luffy. Bellamy did more damage to Luffy than Trebol did and that was all from Doffy's manipulations. Y'all forget Doffy was soloing the entire country with bird cage even Zoro and the entire Strawhat grand fleet couldn't stop that.
Yeah.....big mom is officially the strongest yonko, she wasn't taking L's like Laido was when she was little, fought him powered down(no homies) and tied, and is shown to be more durable. And has more versatility with a better devil fruit. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
They were fucking not fighting. Otherwise Ongaishima would have been destroyed. If two admirals can destroy Punk Hazard what do you think two Yonko would do?
-Kaido didn’t order for the hostage incident -he still one shotted oden(katakuri for example couldn’t one shot luffy when flambé distracted him) -he is the only guy that one shotted a yonko level character. Whitebeard couldn’t do it with a distracted akainu or vice-versa!! -oden was indeed faster,at least in kaidos dragon form -title is Kaido vs oden so he was not a yonko yet!!!when luffy fought Kaido it was: Emperor Kaido vs luffy -he got stronger in 20 years -that chapter just confirmed that Kaido is the best as far as raw strength is concerned -ODA is a tricky bastard!!he didn’t give us a direct battle between human form Kaido vs oden so we can’t make conclusions😂😂
Let not forgot, Jack uses bioweapons on the minks. Kaido and his army aren't above playing dirty. Also, don't sleep on Oden. Whitebeard see him as an equal (Whitebeard call Oden a Brother instead of Son)
@@buddharocks492 can you explained roger and whitebeard conqueror then? Because for me the clash is still armament. Usually in anime they shows the conqueror's haki using like electromagnetic shock wave and they didnt touch or anything
@@anggitwisnawansatyaji2365 Wow I think I agreed with you point up there the conqueror haki user always stand or walk like when Shank entering Whitebeard ship and let that power out without clashing or touching but let's see is kaido really have that haki or not because everything in one piece world was according to oda mind anyway
Kaido was near his peak during this flashback. Him and Big Mom got allot stronger after they left rocks which happened 33 years ago, meaning from the time of this flashback they had 13 years to get stronger ( Big Mom was already in early 30s during Rocks, btw. So she was around prime even then). Kaido 13 years after Rocks became a monster, already nearing his peak. Not till 20 years. So this fight was just plain and simple a disgrace on Kaido's back.
Oden was already Yonkou level. He was already about to go fucking kill Kaido after the slash. Why is this surprising to so many people? We saw Oden clash with a semi serious Whitebeard, survive an attack from the Pirate King himself and Roger thought Oden would injure his top 2 strongest crewmates despite 2v1ing him. Also it is implied that this WAS Kaido at his max. The fact he hasn't been injured since coincides with the fact there hasn't been anyone as strong as Oden (that we know of) since the battle Kaido received his scar in. Roger died, Oden died, Whitebeard got old and sick, Big Mom simply isn't strong enough to injure him, Garp and Sengoku also got old.
So what if Kaido took damage? Just because it takes a lot to do it, doesn't mean he can't take it when it does happen! I think he had the upper hand the whole time. He probably didn't even need the shape shifter's help. It was more like a war than 1 V 1 anyways.
Kaido at 2nd level commander lvl? Where did you pull that bs from? It's been 13 years since Rocks at this point, Kaidou's pretty much nearing his peak.
Whats the big deal? Kaido got a slice, and while he got serious Oden was tricked and kaido blitzed him. What were people expecting? A repeat of luffys case where oden pummels kaido doing nothing, then kaido smacking him down while oden gets the one slice in? I understand the disappointment with the lack of fight content but it doesnt really make kaido look weak does it?
I guess someone of kaido reputation shouldn't rely on a hostage. That why king's upset it marginalizes kaido portrayal so far. Also most would prefer 10-15 pages of them throwing hands and Oden loses naturally.
......... but....................... Kaido wasn't Yonko level back then.......................... so it's ok..... everything is O. K. ............... sniff
King Of Lightning Kaido was in his dragon form which is weaker than his base form.
Excuses... Excuses. Kaido got 1 shotted. I hope Oden is alive so we can see him finish off kaido. Woden TOP 5!!
Loooooooool
@@shinkai9kami162 But also the most durable one, lol.
TINKIE WINKIE woah woah let’s not get crazy here lol. The fight lasted a while, far from a 1 shot
People did NOT OVER RATE Kaido, people UNDER RATED Oden.
When you say Kaido is a god and won't lose on a 1 on 1 then you overrate his bitch ass
FR
They been underrating him the entire flashback
@@therealsamasima Did the narrator in Dressrosa say Kaido won't lose 1 v 1? NO. He only said, "If it's 1 on 1, bet on Kaido".
In fact, he even stated that Kaido has lost seven times already and has been captured many times.
Kaido is NOT over rated.
Also, no one called Kaido a "god", that's just your head canon.
@@heawonpogi we got people on TH-cam claiming he solos the world government 🤣
LAND, SEA, OR AIR. IF IT'S ONE ON ONE, KAIDO WILL ALWAYS...TAKE A HOSTAGE.
I tought we're supposed to bet on Kaido instead!?
@@leonardofarias8843 Bet that Kaido will take a hostage?
he is a pirate....
@@ZBoy-rc8zf You talk like Kaido is a regular character
@@leonardofarias8843 im talking like kaido is supposed to be a pirate and hes a war they dont play far🤷🏽♂️
Land, Sea, or From the back Kaido will win.
and from the back
ROFL
LMFAO
Ffs lol
LMFAO. This is gold.
Ol. D .hag has been carrying this entire wano invasion lol
Shes honestly the MVP of Kaidou's side. Old Hag > Oden
Good thing she’s dead (her fruit is with bon clay)
Imagine if she’s still alive, bro the entire alliance is fucked...
She definitely works for the Government just like that cook that raise BM this is all the Government doing
@@redfootzeff1212 Streusen doesn't work with the govt, what the hell are you saying?
@@roman108 there are 2 fruits that can transform u, one was with Bon, the other on is with one of Black Beards crew members. Its called fox something.
Powerscalers are on suicide watch rn.
BlackermanZX Not at all, many of us predicted that oden would be high yonko level
As they should be, powerscalers for the most part are absolute morons.
Good
BlackermanZX @BragoDAce
shockzz1234 True they are , but so are Arsenal fans
LAIDO OR CRYDO?
.......... too soon.
@@KingOfLightning True LULW
@edu_newgate LMAO
I think kaidhoe got it fam, im still in awe 😨
edu_newgate You win
To be fair Oda said not to blink or you'll miss the hour of legend
He wasn't wrong lol
I think the hour of legends hasn't happened yet. Maybe next chapter.
Lmao Oda's pacing is the opposite of "Namek is going to explode in five minutes". Hour of legends is like 30 seconds in Oda time.
@@bartrollomeo4353 that just shows how dense and deep one piece is
This is not the hour of legend. That is yet to happen.
If it's one on one bet on Kaido....unless if it is Oden.
But oden was killed by kaido....
@@onomatopoeia7219 with help, you idiot
But did you forgot that in Kaido's introduction stated he was defeated 7 times?
if it's one on one bet on kaido
and the old hag
We can’t take what the narrator said 20 years later and apply it to the time when oden and kaido fought. I’m sure back during this time there were at least 4 people who could possibly beat kaido 1v1. Whitebeard, Garp, Big Mom ,and roger had just died
Idk what’s more indestructible... Kaido’s skin/scales or his liver, dude’s been an alcoholic for 20+ years
vancleve sylvester a true patriot !
Jose PImentel dude casually falls 10000 feet and your concerned about his drinking... that alcohol probably has the same effect as water to a normal human to him
@vancleve sylvester you seen the size of his saki gourd
Probably his liver, because, as we have seen here, Oden smacked his scales, easy peasy.
"hello, my name is kaido, and im an alcoholic, I've been drunk for 7300 days now, im proud of myself"
Oda's reminder about Marineford: Don't get distracted during battle.
Big mom fighting Luffy*
Big mom : don't interfere Katakuri.
Kaido fighting Oden*
Kaido: TEAM I NEED HELP!!!
Big bitch > Laido
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kaido want's to die, confronted with actual death, HELP!
He want to die because OP OP No Mi Surgery, he hasn't immortal yet
@John permeswar dude it was already stated kaido and big mom got WAY stronger over the years. that was a non prime kaido aka the kaido now is stronger. he was way too cocky against a man he underestimated
Correction, CURRENT Kaido wants to die. It's been like 20 years since he was nearly killed by Oden. Nobody has been able to injure him since which is probably why he wants to die.
@John permeswar Seems like people live alot longer in One Piece and so the prime is an older age.
@@Shoddragon
Should have fought Whitebeard before marineford.
Aims capturing the world. Claims he can't be killed. Then, Go try killing off Sichibukai or attack the marine admirals or try defeating the other Yonkos.
That would get him hurt badly.
Never forget the "Hour Of Legends" was 3 fight panels............
King Of Lightning the chapter was ass
Classic Oda lol
I think the hour of Legends is Oden givingvhiscspeech and the 9 Red Scabards doing something.
Chapter was 5/10
Hour of Legends hasn't happened yet. Have faith in Oda. Not nearly as bad as Naruto's and Bleach's Fails. Plus how can you say the pacing is bad when you trashed dressrosa for being to slow.
Lororororororo 😢
WORORORORORO!!!............. dammit
Kingu on Luffy after he had Nami help with the biscuits against Cracker: WOW LUFFY WHY ARE YOU SO SCRUBBY THIS IS BAD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
Kingu on Kaido after he needed help from the old bag in order to not be beheaded by Oden: WOW SNEAK ATTACK 10/10
I think it was more that they didn't like that Luffy beat Cracker via Tank Man, because the attack look weird.
Because luffy is a kid 19 years old......
And kaido was a toddler (30+ years old) according to kaidotards😉😂🤣🤣
His name is the Kaidopractor, because hes skilled at attacking your back
Genius
Comedy gold
I feel like people aren't fully grasping everything we've had in the flashbacks and information relayed to us beforehand. First off, Sengoku's statement that Big Mom and Kaido got stronger is in reference to when they were onboard the Rocks Pirates vs when they became established Pirates. We know he meant it like that and not "they are stronger now than 20 years ago" because Big Mom and Kaido were already established Emperors when Roger was nearing the end of his voyage and Whitebeard was already stalemating with Roger years before he found Laugh Tale. On top of that, Sengoku's statement was specifically in reference to the fact that they eventually got stronger after Garp and Roger kicked their asses. Kaido is probably about as strong now as he was when he fought Oden, Oden is just that strong. The man took an attack from Gol. D roger and survived with minimal damage and managed to clash with a semi-serious Whitebeard previously.
There are 2 things that also seal the deal for me personally: Kaido SPECIFICALLY compares Oden to Whitebeard and Roger, claiming they were extremely powerful but far too kind (indicating that Kaido was aware of two other people who could injure him). We also get the narration that Oden's strength was vastly underestimated, meaning that it's unlikely Kaido was weaker than he is now and Oden was simply that crazy strong.
I was one of those people that thought Kaido was weaker 20 years ago. After reading this, you might be right. But hey, he probably got a little stronger, right?
Kol should read this.
Spot on, thank you
No one will attempt to rationalize it like this.
Cause it makes too much sense.
YES, THANK YOU.
Bro this chapter just put Roger and Newgate in a new stratosphere of power, the man that got washed by Roger was on par if not greater than Kaido.
Roger always has been portrayed as this OP Pirate
A much weaker Kaido from 20 years ago.
@@xaviercopeland2789 20 years later, had Oden been alive, he'd still own Kaido cuz he'd have gotten stronger too though.
In fairness Oden probably got stronger after all that traveling.
M Mullz and I agree with you. Oden was a beast when it came to growth rate, and very much was on the tier of people like Koby, Luffy, and Shanks in that regard. Like I have always said, I believe if Oden had survived and kept training, he would definitely get to Yonko level, but the fact is that he died before reaching those heights.
Land,Sea or Air
1 v 1 always bet on Kaidou...as long as their is a hostage involved
The Yonkou's credibilities are starting to look like YonkouProductions
Good one!
People make it out to be that the yonko need to be perfect which is simply not the case.. no one is perfect
@@danielpinatecaballero2612 Their expectations were set high when we saw Whitebeard in action back in Marineford I guess...
y00000000000..!!
Not to mention Big Lom.
That intro longer than One Piece anime intro LOL
“One vs One always bet on Kaido” against the current era but when he was still rising bet on Oden 😂
DarkHound Kaido of the 100 hostages
If Oden were still alive and gotten stronger he'd still be able to win.
Kaido beat oden lmao
Laido has fans?
Too Soon.
oh cmon :(
Chill dude, y'all take these things to hard lmao
Chill bru
Chris the Chilled nope that’s how the one piece community is apparently anyone who loses is weak.
Kaido is strong but ya'll need to understand that he was defeated 7 times and was captured 18 times. The dude has to take a few L's he ain't invincible.
I feel like people forget this.
You think roger and Whitebeard never got defeated, but they will never use dirty methods to win........ I m not saying kaido is weak but kaido fanboys were rating him above Whitebeard just like zorotards rating zoro above luffy.
In my opinion big mom is current strongest yonko she was just like oden strong since childhood.
Thank you. Yonko fans were always wild.
13:19 There were no pleasures nor gifters in the fight Kol, this happens 20 years in the past, the smiles are recent things.
If it wasn't for that granny, Kaido would never had baby stacked Luffy.
Granny Top 5!
The sword thing is simple, you have to have a sword that wouldn’t break on kaidos skin. But you have to be strong enough to cut through his skin
King of Lightning should voice act tho
21:10 salt was real at that moment king lost all respect for kaido and yet my boy is trying to defend him as much as he possibly can
This is big news!!!
YOOOOOOOOOO
Morgans never change, Morgans. Love you man
Worgans!!!!!!!!!!
All jokes aside, I'm not mad with how the fight turned out. My only issue with this chapter was the pacing and Oden's attack. I didn't feel anything when he slashed Kaido. Hopefully the anime fixes that. That being said, overall a good chapter 7.5/10.
Anime is going to give that fight at least 5 episodes
the anime has fucked up almost every single fight with massive amounts of filler and outright changing certain things to make some villains seem way stronger than they are and sometimes make the good guys seem stronger than they are. I would lower your expectations tremendously my friend.
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This is a Great set-up chapter. We all knew that oda wasn't gonna show the battles in a flashback because of the upcoming war. Now if Oda starts to skip fights real-time in the war then there's a problem.
You know damn well thats coming..
Marineford did it and yet it was still great
Off screen oda is gonna off screen the final war and all we are gonna get is luffy v BB
Lost 7 times ,captured 18 times, so oden was among the 7?👀
I feel bad for those 7 hostages that was used every time he lost 😭
Qarcon chill 💀💀
@@qarcon3247 lmao
I still can't get over the disrespect Oden got by being forced to make a fool out of himself.
he got tricked he could just kill Everyone including Kaido at any given time
@@yusufpekin3556 He will have a very very hard time against Kaido.
@@jasonfoley6502 he nearly one shoted Kaido wdym xD. Kaido was so much weaker than oden back then
@@yusufpekin3556 Who would even beat current Kaido now as Oden is dead?
@@jasonfoley6502 luffy
Honestly after years of watching these videos I need to tell you King, I watch these on my phone and PS4 and as such do not own Ze Mouseu
Oden is yonkou lvl never forget
No
@white america's worst nightmare If WB dont get a heart attack I think even In his Old form he was stronger than Kaido and BigMom I really do maybe not as Durable but in terms of Offensive capabilities hes stronger I think
Yonko lvl but got an IQ of a rookie
Nah. Kaido is just Yonko Commander Level.
Oden is not Yonko level. Kaido wasn’t at this point either. They are both getting beaten by Ben Beckman, and maybe even Marco, in their primes.
Yes KOL, time for a new power scaling list since you have Kaido as top1.
he still is nothing changed
Why would he change scaling based off a 20 year ago flash back
Seems like Jobbing is a trend amongst the Beast pirates, starting with their Captain.
I'm not sure how Kaido jobbed when he got injured by someone who fought Gol D. Roger and Whitebeard.
@@Shoddragon Anyone can "fight" Roger or Whitebeard. Only maybe two handfuls have a chance of actually presenting a threat, though.
@@SnowyWolborg correct and one of those people was Oden lmao.
Ok seriously?
We're talking about a Kaido of 20 years ago and during his introduction in chapter 795 it was stated that he has been defeated 7 times!!
@@SnowyWolborg During that time Roger and Whitebeard was considered the strongest. And Oden is well known in Wano for his strength. Pretty sure it makes sense that he can land a slash on Kaido. And Kaido isn't invincible either. The dude was defeated 7 times and captured 18 times. Ya'll acting like he can win every 1v1
Remember that Katakuri was over hyped by his family. Pirates raise to greatness through strength and trickery, some of them through trickery only, namely Buggy
Exactly
exactly in the world of one piece buggy and ussop are gods haha
Remember that Oden clashed with prime White-beard.
I’m gonna really miss the Chaden theme for reactions when it’s over
I think the hour of legend is still to come. When Oden sacrifice himself to let his samurai scape.
I just personally didnt like the pacing of this chapter at all. I was expecting this epic build up for the only attack known to have severely damaged Kaido. But it just... kind of happened i guess? Even the chapter is called Oden vs Kaido but its literally just a few panels. Im fine with the outcome but im definitely not fine with the execution.
Pacing was atrocious
Oda always do stuff like that, the same thing was with Akainu vs Aokiji fight (just one panel)
@@konstantinkachanovsky2960 with that however it was a recap from jinbei just talking about it this however was the main focus point of the chapter no cuts no other subplots just one fight between two characters no excuse for it being pace atrociously
Wonder if VPN will prevent these ads on kols videos 🤔
Live Reaction starts at 8:59
Yo KOL. This wasn’t the hour of legends. Why would an event that was reacted so coldly by citizens of wano as seen at the end of the chapter be regarded as the hour of legends? Seems like the escape from execution will be that hour
Wasn’t there a riot Oden was famous for in the prisons or something?
The 15 Minutes Of Legends 😍
I'm surprised KOL didn't react to the old lady having access to Momonosuke as a transformation... like that means at one point she has been close enough to the Kozuki family to touch his cheek... HOW DEEP IN WAS THE SPY MAN
These KOL intros are starting to become longer than One Piece's.
KING!! I LOVE THE INTRO.. ITS SO CLEAN... LOVE THE PRAYERS
All Sengoku said was that Big Mom and Kaido grew stronger after 33 years ago. We don't know exactly when they peaked, but we can assume that at the very least it had to happen before Gold Roger was executed, cause White Beard was almost Roger's equal and unless Kol wants to claim that the yonko currently are stronger than the pirate king, then their's no way kaido was that weak 20 years ago. Oden is just THAT powerful.
We even see Whitebeard fight Roger and see that it ended in a stalemate. Which means that Big Mom and Kaido likely hit their peaks not too long after at the latest.
6:17 Where did you find that amazing art piece
Kaido was most likely yonko level already. Sengoku was referring to Kaido 40 years ago, not 20 years ago. Unless you think Borsalino and BM were weaker 20 years ago.
Yes they probably were. Do you think they didn't get any stronger in 20 years? Lol
@@shinsekai3d660 Nope that was Kaido prime.
King these edit bro lmao
It was a sad chapter for everyone. Chad Oden is going get killed in the next chapter or 2. Then Kaido suffering an major scar with his fight with Oden.
Can someone please tell me the theme KOL plays for Chaden? It sounds really cool. :)
KOL was being delusional in this. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 KOL, Oden was a Former 2nd Division Commander. 🤣🤣🤣 You had to expect a Sneak Attack.
luffy himself says there is no thing as fair in a pirate fight
@@addollz6192 I've said that many times in Vids of mine, Discussions, and Livestreams. Astute point!
KOL fucking struggling to come terms with Kaido's performance 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the live stream was wild, especially when the round table just started. That intro monologue was spectacular !!!
I'm confused how this takes anything away from Kaido? He took out Luffy in one attack and also Oden in one attack? Oden is the only one to cut him. plus this was Kaido 20 years ago, what was everyone expecting?
definitely didnt one shot oden. he was fighting for a while before that. he even took one of kaidos fire breaths before hand.
SKendell because if it wasnt for the old had oden would have finished kaido
Joocy PaleOrc maybe or maybe not, we’ll never know, and even if Oden was stronger than Kaido that would be reasonable. Oden just conquered the grand line. Kaido was 20 years younger than present time. Look at Luffys growth in 2 years.
kaido is old he aint like luffy ...like he got any better in the last 20 years maybe he got worse
Doffy Kaido definitely got better, you don’t become yonkou by getting worse. The admirals are like in there 50s, in one piece people don’t decline till much later in age.
Lmao yo intro is funny af dog this is the first time i checked you out and had to sub
What's wrong with a good ol' sneak attack?
"Honor"? "Principle"? "Code"?
The only crime in battle is _to lose_
If that doesn't apply, it just means it's a petty fight over something not even worth fighting for.
First five seconds in.... damn King, you oughta be sending out voice recordings and scoring VA work bro
Would you like some more salt with that Dragon Steak?
it's not a fact that Kaido will win in one on one, it's a rumor spreading around the world of one piece,. it says "if it's one on one Kaido will win, that's what people say".. The world of one piece is just like the real world with fake news, rumors etc.
Not sure how everyone else is feeling but I'm pretty disappointed with this fight. Kaido! The man looking for a place to die (at least in the present timeline), resorted to trickery to beat Oden. What?!?! He has the moniker, "if it's one on one, Kaido will win". So, what happened?? I loved him as a villain before this. Now I'm conflicted.
He's literally a pirate. Why do you think trickery is beneath him just because he's strong?
what happened is that this is more or less 20 years before he became a legend that he is now, he was just an apprentice not too long ago. How do you not get that? It really is not rocket science.
You know how big the difference between Wano Luffy and pre TS Luffy? That's 2 plus years, this is 20 years, t-w-e-n-t-y.
A lot of people predicted Kaido won bc of a trick. I don’t mind the idea itself but the way it happened wasn’t all that great to me. As for him being suicidal, that’s how he is now but that doesn’t have to apply to his yonnger self. Something must’ve happened during the 20 years that made him change and we should find out soon enough.
@@FrozenEspada4 Yes, that's one of the reason's why. Also, it's been stated that he's looking for a place to die which implies that he's looking for something worthy enough to kill him. Trickery, in this case, is somewhat of a contradiction to that.
@@Rises9 Remember this is 20 years ago. He might not have been suicidal until maybe when Whitebeard died.
I was there live for this The king of Stalling is here
Land, Sea or Air huh? I guess Oden is from space. lol
Yikes!
did you know that all the royal family in Wano has a moon on their surname
Big Mom just keeps climbing the ranks
Lol at chapter 1000 I'm 100% convinced that big mom is stronger than kaido
no rules in a fight, plus he one shot him lmao
Yes i agree with there's no rule ......... But Queen oneshoted bigmom and it took 2 hits for big mom to takedown queen......now queen is pirate king level 😂😂🤣🤣
Think before writing bro
7:54 - if you wish to Skipperino the ad and the intro.
As a Kaidou fanboy, yeah, im feeling bad. That hostage thing really pissed me of.
He's a Pirate lmaoo are yall forgetting who this series is about?
I'm sorry but you're not a "Kaido fanboy" lmfao. Kaido literally runs fucking slave labor camps where his minions are allowed to execute the sick and elderly if they so please, has a subordinate that makes BIO-WEAPONS (queen) and a subordinate that purposefully destroys the ecosystem of various islands for fun (Jack). The "Numbers" are implied to be alcoholics that EAT people. Are you telling me the HOSTAGE situation is what pissed you off? lmfao.
Ayyyyyyyyyye my boi KOL! I wish I could catch one of these Live Streams...
After seeing shinobu when she was younger, I now firmly believe that one piece women age horribly.
Not Shakki and Dr Kureha.
Either they got lazy or to much candy lol
lol Oda only knows how to draw 2 types of women. Skinny big boobs or Fat and ugly.
@Jthe Lightseeker- no that’s not true.
@Malik Riley- actually Oda made drawn examples with the straw hats of two good and bad 20 year time skips. Basically Shinobu had a bad twenty years look at robin from 8 to 28 and to 30 she aged great.
That katakuri intro was lit ngl
i just like to point out this was NOT a 1v1 this was a 11v1000 battle royale and
who ever said that Kaido was above dirty tricks hell it was not even Kaido that playd dirty it was the old hag we don't KNOW if Oden whold have killd Kaido if she didn't interfere it took Kaido the 2 seconds of Oden looking away to get up and smack him to the ground
Queen also took down current bigmom so is queen pirate king level ???
Emperor like bigmom can also faint if u take a cheap shot and kaido realised thats the only moment he can win and went for it. If kaido was capable of defeating oden than he might have waited for war to resume. What do u think ??
@@rajatushar123 first what do you mean "Queen took down current Bigmom" Bigmom fell asleep and Queen then chain her up with prism stone AFTER she had slap him around
second i don't know if i say that Kaido took a cheap shot to me it looke like Kaido just got up and attacked Oden in a fit of rage
Oden was not looking and that's not Kaidos fault and he won the battle that's how i see therer fight
Damn Kaido in his prime was a sneaky bastard. So much for being the strongest creature in the world, even Oden could've beaten him if it wasn't for that old hag
**Kaido takes a hostage to gain an opening**
Fans: *Surprised Pikachu face* That’s illegal!
People seem to forget that in a Pirates fight there are no rules. Remember when Luffy used Brûlée to buy time against katakuri. Remember when Luffy used Buggy D Clown as a human shield against Mihawk? Those who fight with Honour are asking for an ass whooping 😬
Luffy had entire Dressrosa backing him up to help him beat Doffy. Also it was a 2v1 until Law was taken out of the picture.
Why do u forget that Luffy is only 19 years old fighting all 40+ people who are in their prime.
Kaido and oden were of almost same age.
And luffy won't backstab even his enemies, he ran a came back for fair fight.
FryedPidgey it’s out of character for kaido. That’s why we are upset.
@@bartrollomeo4353 2v2 trebol was saving doffy and causing both law and luffy to be hurt multiple times
@@kangaroo3731 I'm gonna have to let you try harder than that to convince me that Trebol is a competent fighter comparable to Law and an entire country backing up Luffy. Bellamy did more damage to Luffy than Trebol did and that was all from Doffy's manipulations.
Y'all forget Doffy was soloing the entire country with bird cage even Zoro and the entire Strawhat grand fleet couldn't stop that.
Wasn't expecting to start off with Kaido asmr
Everyone forgetting this is a younger version of Kaido.
How young ??
Did oden fought a toddler or someone like luffy 19 years old ???
yeah but he is probably around 30's or 40's by this time. close to shanks present age
People defanding kaido like crazy..
Force of nature
Everyone forgetting that if oden didn’t die he could be stronger too
what is the song name that kol use for chaden?
Yeah.....big mom is officially the strongest yonko, she wasn't taking L's like Laido was when she was little, fought him powered down(no homies) and tied, and is shown to be more durable. And has more versatility with a better devil fruit. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
They were fucking not fighting. Otherwise Ongaishima would have been destroyed. If two admirals can destroy Punk Hazard what do you think two Yonko would do?
Someone told Oda he wanted to fight him. Oda said they already fought and *it was an incredible battle!*
-Kaido didn’t order for the hostage incident
-he still one shotted oden(katakuri for example couldn’t one shot luffy when flambé distracted him)
-he is the only guy that one shotted a yonko level character. Whitebeard couldn’t do it with a distracted akainu or vice-versa!!
-oden was indeed faster,at least in kaidos dragon form
-title is Kaido vs oden so he was not a yonko yet!!!when luffy fought Kaido it was: Emperor Kaido vs luffy
-he got stronger in 20 years
-that chapter just confirmed that Kaido is the best as far as raw strength is concerned
-ODA is a tricky bastard!!he didn’t give us a direct battle between human form Kaido vs oden so we can’t make conclusions😂😂
It wasn't a one shot it was a long fight and we see oden get hit with a heat breath
So u r saying Queen is stronger than kaido as per your logic he knocked down current bigmom in ONESHOT 🤣🤣
Lol luffy is made out of rubber and oden isn't of course Kaido one shots oden and Katakuri couldn't on luffy
Kaido using the Bleach signature 'Behind The Back Attack'
King trying to reason why he should have lost. Assuming his rank at the time. Why you think Luffy after Kaido first? He's the weakest of the emperors.
How could he have possibly known that?
We probably will find out soon. Remember the man that trained him.
How many subs does Kol have anyways?
Ppl actually comparing current kaido to kaido 20 years ago, how old are you guys 8!
To be fair Naruto, bleach and fairy fail fans are under 8.
Kol has the age of a 5 year old so yeah
kaido is old like it made a difference, closer to prime age before lol
What's the name of the theme whenever Chaden is on the scene?
When Shanks has his L moment I hope there is no damage control from u. U are always on time when it comes to dragon an kaido
I'm going to enjoy watching him take that L.
His first L was by the sea king
Sea King: Am I A Joke To You???
The sea king scene happened before youtube exist.
@@mathieul4303 Sea king thing was planned
Let not forgot, Jack uses bioweapons on the minks. Kaido and his army aren't above playing dirty. Also, don't sleep on Oden. Whitebeard see him as an equal (Whitebeard call Oden a Brother instead of Son)
its ok king laido was over hyped and you fell for it. just remember you called kiku being a trap so its ok to fall for the laido hype.
This arc is going to be long but how many chapters is wano currently. And could it be longer then dressrosa.
11:51 i think oda never mentioned that kaido had the conqueror's haki
Sword clash with Big Mom shows conquerors haki in the sky
@@maciejp7829 no its not conqueror its just an armament haki clash for me at least
@@anggitwisnawansatyaji2365 that's incorrect, it's conquerors
@@buddharocks492 can you explained roger and whitebeard conqueror then? Because for me the clash is still armament. Usually in anime they shows the conqueror's haki using like electromagnetic shock wave and they didnt touch or anything
@@anggitwisnawansatyaji2365
Wow I think I agreed with you point up there the conqueror haki user always stand or walk like when Shank entering Whitebeard ship and let that power out without clashing or touching
but let's see is kaido really have that haki or not because everything in one piece world was according to oda mind anyway
If Oden were still alive would it be fair to assume he would be yonko level like big mom and kaido considering they got stronger over time?
Kaido was near his peak during this flashback.
Him and Big Mom got allot stronger after they left rocks which happened 33 years ago, meaning from the time of this flashback they had 13 years to get stronger ( Big Mom was already in early 30s during Rocks, btw. So she was around prime even then).
Kaido 13 years after Rocks became a monster, already nearing his peak. Not till 20 years.
So this fight was just plain and simple a disgrace on Kaido's back.
Oden was already Yonkou level. He was already about to go fucking kill Kaido after the slash. Why is this surprising to so many people? We saw Oden clash with a semi serious Whitebeard, survive an attack from the Pirate King himself and Roger thought Oden would injure his top 2 strongest crewmates despite 2v1ing him.
Also it is implied that this WAS Kaido at his max. The fact he hasn't been injured since coincides with the fact there hasn't been anyone as strong as Oden (that we know of) since the battle Kaido received his scar in. Roger died, Oden died, Whitebeard got old and sick, Big Mom simply isn't strong enough to injure him, Garp and Sengoku also got old.
So what if Kaido took damage? Just because it takes a lot to do it, doesn't mean he can't take it when it does happen! I think he had the upper hand the whole time. He probably didn't even need the shape shifter's help. It was more like a war than 1 V 1 anyways.
Kaido at 2nd level commander lvl? Where did you pull that bs from? It's been 13 years since Rocks at this point, Kaidou's pretty much nearing his peak.
Whats the big deal? Kaido got a slice, and while he got serious Oden was tricked and kaido blitzed him. What were people expecting? A repeat of luffys case where oden pummels kaido doing nothing, then kaido smacking him down while oden gets the one slice in? I understand the disappointment with the lack of fight content but it doesnt really make kaido look weak does it?
I guess someone of kaido reputation shouldn't rely on a hostage. That why king's upset it marginalizes kaido portrayal so far. Also most would prefer 10-15 pages of them throwing hands and Oden loses naturally.
It's the fact that the scene is so short it makes it look like Oden was about to whoop Kaido if not for the hostage
Source on the Chaden music?