We are so excited to finally be dropping the first episode of our new series, 24HRS WITH! There was so much we talked about with Isaiah! How did you all feel about some of the topics we covered? (Christians with demons, yoga, alcohol,…etc.) We believe that our goal was reached in this first episode, to unite, grow and entertain! Do you? 😊 Support the project on Patreon! www.patreon.com/paulandmorganshow
Loved the episode I enjoyed the push back from both sides. Love y’all all (ps Paul ask Mike Signorelli about the alcohol thing he did a very good video on it) (Isaiah did good too lol but anyway). I loved the video it was fun I hope y’all keep going and hope this comment encourages you cause you are going to get hate during these videos.
My thoughts on alcohol: Isaiah ignores Bible context 😰🚩-- Proverbs 23:29-35 ESV [29] Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? [30] Those who tarry long over wine; those who go to try mixed wine. [31] Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. [32] In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder. [33] Your eyes will see strange things, and your heart utter perverse things. [34] You will be like one who lies down in the midst of the sea, like one who lies on the top of a mast. [35] “They struck me,” you will say, “but I was not hurt; they beat me, but I did not feel it. When shall I awake? I must have another drink.” ( context: drunkenness and debauchery) God's good gifts are meant to be enjoyed, not abused. Moderation in all things. Proverbs 25:16 ESV [16] If you have found honey, eat only enough for you, lest you have your fill of it and vomit it.
I think the topics and discussions were good. Paul did a good job of making them spicy while showing how you can discuss and disagree yet still love and respect. Isaiah displayed respect and humility as well as holding strong to his convictions. I have ridden the fence about deliverance for a while and am still sceptical about certain things but Isaiah gained alot more credibility in my eyes not that that means anything. But when you see people from a platform sometimes it seems so fabricated and designed to appeal to an audience but this showed how genuine he really is about his beliefs. I appreciated this video alot. Thank you!
I left 2 comments below. I believe the topics are important but that the conversation only went skin deep. I have concerns about how scripture is being used. I agreed with you Paul in spirit on some things but I believe you need to prepare more before tackling these topics publicly. I don't believe all the laughing was appropriate...it is a symptom of being uncomfortable but not knowing how to process the situation. It is akin to flattery when it is used to keep the atmosphere light and entertaining. Saints shouldn't be concerned with entertainment because it is the Devil's substitute for joy, peace, etc. I would let that feeling lead you into truth in those moments. Be honest about the disrespect being shown. Address accusations head on. For example, not saying whether you drink or not is irrelevant to the topic and you didn't feel the need to share. In a debate that would be appropriate and would actually make Isaiah look bad because he's bordering an ad hominem attack by asking personal questions and deflecting from your argument that Paul commanded the use of wine sometimes. Isaiah never answered that idea...he deflected. So, this "unity" attempt only cripples people of good character who are trying to be nice. The enemy uses empathy against the Church. This method of attack needs to be identified, called out and then destroyed. The truth of the mater is that Isaiah used 1 verse about alcohol without sharing verses that speak of it in a positive light. For example, if wine = venom then an obvious concern is did Jesus poison everyone at the wedding in Cana? Or, was it not "hard liquor?" There are some verses that speak of STRONG wine in the context of the kingdom of God. And, so we must compare ALL scripture on a topic to come away with the right understanding. Taking a legalistic mindset against alcohol isn't the right approach even though there are some good reasons to be wary of it. The law of liberty spoken of by James is basically the law of love. It doesn't focus on "don't drink alcohol." Instead, it focuses on "what is the most loving thing to use alcohol for." The purpose of the God's law is pure and clean and those that are led by the HS look past the LETTER which kills to the SPIRIT that gives life. So, to sum up, drinking alcohol isn't a sin in and of itself, yet Isaiah isn't wrong about his reasons for being careful. And, those reasons can be addressed one by one so that the Royal Law can be kept without sacrificing freedom in Christ and becoming enslaved to the legalism of men. Jesus said that the traditions of the Pharisees nullified God's commandments. But, I will praise you all for your courage to tackle difficult topics, to put your effort, faces, etc on display for all to critique. I hope and pray that you all have sincere motives in this endeavor and if so that YHWH would bless your work for the Kingdom.
Thanks so much for doing this! I'm so excited for the other episodes to come! Praying this brings much-needed unity and understanding to the body of Christ! Love you both!
Hey Isaiah. How would you hope for the unity of the body of Christ when you just last week put out a video about tb joshua based on a bbc documentary. You believed a secular documentary about a holy man more than seeking the Holy Spirit to know whether this is true or not. Are you gonna believe Judas testimony about Jesus. Why don’t you ask Peter, James and John about Jesus Christ, I mean why didn’t you first try to contact the close disciples of tb joshua before you put out a video. Is it not what you did that’s dividing the body of Christ? I bless God for what God is doing through you but I am disappointed that you chose to believe a lie without any evidence.
@@nagashalomso you’re claiming that Isaiah’s causing division yet simultaneously claiming that the statements/interviews in the documentary are lies? So u were there to know & witness everything that took place? Yeah, highly doubt that! You’re doing thee exact same thing you’re accusing Isaiah for.. “making an assumption”. When in fact it’s been plainly put out there that this man abused, tricked, & misled sooo many people. Unfortunately we can see that you’re one of the ones being misled.
I was at the Jezebel teaching Isaiah did at Lifesong last year. Right at the end of the sermon Isaiah begins to cast it out of the crowd (for anyone who may have had it) and my friend immediately starts screaming uncontrollably. She was delivered of that “Jezebel” spirit and she was absolutely thrilled because it was something she had been battling for a long time. God is so good and faithful!!! I enjoy watching Paul/Morgan’s content and Isaiah’s. Such a cool project. Thank you for this!
Yaywe love Isaiah we are partners with his ministry. The Lord revealed to my husband and I that I needed deliverance. I’m so thankful that Isaiah videos lead me to get help. I had a hard childhood and was sexually assaulted at age 16. Years of trauma built up and anxiety. Jesus set me free yes as a Christian. My husband and I are being called to help get people set free. If any Christian is thinking about getting deliverence do it. I never thought I would be free from my trauma. God completely healed me and delivered me. It took over 2.5 years watching videos learning going to church’s. Jesus set me free I will always be grateful.
Finally rewatched the video again after seeing it when it premiered but had missed some parts. This was really good. I’ve only known about deliverance for about 2 years now and before that, I did not know much about it. I was actually kind of scared of it at first when I started seeing the videos of people manifesting, but it wasn’t until I attended a mass deliverance and got delivered and healed that I then believed that yes, Christians can have demons. For reference, I am a born-again Christian - I have attended a non-denominational church since I was a baby - my parents were youth leaders when I was a child, I was part of the Youth Group leadership team at the church that I attended. (I attended that same church for 26 years before I moved out of state.) So when I attended the mass deliverance in 2022, I was afraid of what was going to happen. I started renouncing pretty much everything that the Pastor said to renounce because I didn’t know what demon or demons I would have - and then I started manifesting but it wasn’t anything too crazy - I started coughing at one point and then just crying. The Lord set me free that night and it was the best thing I could have ever done. Oh, how I wish that I would have known about deliverance years prior because I believe that I wouldn’t have wasted so many years struggling but it was all in God’s timing. Now that I’ve been delivered, I just want everyone else to be delivered too because there truly is freedom in Christ Jesus. 🙌🏼 I’m excited to see the other episodes. Great job Paul and Morgan!! 🎉💕
While I still greatly disagree with Isaiah on a ton of things, I appreciate how he is a loving father and husband and tries his best to follow the Lord. Thanks for doing this guys!
Ya mad weird ya want Isaiah on here for views you all a clown 🤡 Paul you a clown and your wife too weirdos ya just want views you gonna sit there and reply to Isaiah comment about having him there and on this comment you talking mad crazy agreeing with this clown 🤡 all ya clowns on here
@@PaulandMorganI agree with the above statement. He seems really nice and solid, but I'm still not sold on a born again Christian having demons and NO way a person filled with demons are going to willingly go to church to cast them out....no demon possessed person went to jesus on their own accord 🙏🏻🇿🇦❤️🔥 good work you guys and your baby boy is gorgeous!!
This is like watching our life 😂 always taking about the things of the Lord, busy kids running around the house, walking with friends daily while we talk about things of the Lord. Totally loved this!
Love Christians coming together and being one in the body even with disagreements how vastly different that looks from the world and how needed this is amazing!!!!!!
I never been to this channel, I only listened to Isaiah and have had deliverance listening to his videos. All glory to God. I just don't understand why so many ppl here are so offended about deliverance
Because it’s a different gospel with doctrines that are man made and not found outlined in the scriptures. If this is so important for the believer, why is it mentioned 0 times in the NT letters for how churches should operate and how to live the Christian life? If this was so important, Paul, Peter, James, John, someone would have outlined parameters and methods in order to be effective. But when it’s not there, you get man made doctrines like Isaiah saying demons don’t have regular names and manifesting bird fear demons. We have 1 mediator between man and God that can forgive our sin and free us (1 Tim 2:5). This practice makes man a mediator that we can go to for something that scripture clearly says Christ is our mediator for.
I had never experienced deliverance but my whole life I had voices in my head telling me I was worthless, not good enough, I had extreme fear, rage among other things I went through deliverance prayer and all these things were gone I no longer have these thoughts in my head I no longer experience rage I fully believe I was set free from these things/ demons for many years I dealt with these things 40 plus years nothing could help them I went through deliverance prayer and these things were completely gone!
I agree with Isaiah, if you were to go to his church, you wouldn’t think it would be his home church. It’s def not what people imagine. I’ve visited a few times, and they have some amazing worship, and word, and I love how they do the altar prayer. Visiting his home church was how I came to find out that they were open to deliverances and scheduling them with whoever needs it. Growing up in a Baptist Church, deliverance was never talked about. And learning about deliverance has really changed so much. it has given language to so many unexplainable things in my life. By the way, I ended up scheduling a deliverance with his church. Even though it was two hours away from my home, I know I need to make it happen. I can’t begin to express how beautiful my deliverance day was. I had never experienced the love of God in such a deep way, and so intimately. My deliverance truly pointed me back to the love of the father. That church does such a good job in stewing their deliverance ministry. I can go on forever. Maybe I’ll just make a TH-cam video about it lol.
Exactly why Isaiah is my fave pastor. He’s humble, rock solid in the word, and sold out for Jesus. He has compassion to help people get see free not because he’s obsessed with demons but because he’s using the authority that Jesus Christ gave him to change the world. Literally!
What accredited theological institution did your fav pastor receive his divinity degree from? Based on my Christian upbringing he comes across to me as another heretic, just like Paul and Morgan.
This is a prime example of how our personal experiences and the experiences we have with others combined with the kind of knowledge and how much of it we have shapes our beliefs and how we see every aspect of life. Im a little over halfway through this video. It's really good! - One of my favorite videos I've seen on TH-cam in a while 💜
Isaiah explanations about deliverance, telling the difference between possession and not possession was so helpful. Morgan sharing that her deliverance had manifested through tears. I always thought it had to be crazy like shaking growling ect. This was awesome video
This episode really spoke to me. I’ve struggled with the thought of if a Christian can have a demon. For years I went to an apostolic church and have seen real deliverance but also the fear of always having a demon or afraid of allowing one in has always been my struggle. It’s been years that I have been away from the apostolic church. Thank you for speaking about this, it totally makes sense! I do actually feel I need deliverance that have been attached for years
Christians without any doubt can have a demon, you don’t have a demon because Christ Jesus The Holy Spirit lives in you. Nowhere in scripture does it say or can be found that Christians can have a demon, so please be at peace, The Lord God lives in your heart and there’s no room for a demon. 🙏🏻♥️
There is nothing to fear, my dear! Look up the sky and see how big our God is. that's how big his protection is to us (and even a WAY bigger). Be bold and brave! And believe me, one deliverance is one of the best gifts from Jesus ❤
Ok I did not expect to love this SO much. Super deep, super helpful, asked the hard questions, was willing to listen and learn but also test everything. SO GOOD and loved all the behind the scene personal touches. Wow I didn’t realize this was the kind of thing I have been craving to see and even experience in my personal life. So often with videos on TH-cam we see “oh let’s get out of our echo chambers so I’m going invite someone on my podcast who is on via zoom and just talk theology.” I’m really getting tired of that… watching you guys IN PERSON together having organic conversations NOT IN A SET but in an actually REAL LIFE ENVIRONMENT was such a treat and is something we never get to see anymore. Thank you for actually FLYING OUT and having the 24 hour EXPERIENCE with Isaiah instead of just the impersonal “zoom call”. This was amazing, thank you.
I hesitated for a long time watching this video but I'm glad I did. The concern that Paul expressed with people taking deliverance to extreme happened to me and totally messed my mind up. I was saved out of the new age and used TH-cam predominately as my "community" in the beginning because I had no idea what I was doing. I was the first in my extended family to get saved. So I think this is a valid concern as I became completely paranoid...... ALSO I want to comment on yoga :) I agree that yoga is usually the gateway "drug" for many people into the spiritual. It is something that seems benign enough for atheists/agnostics and then eventually over time they are influenced by other yogis. That being said, when people talk about yoga being demonic in a lot of ways they are being dishonest. Yoga has 8 limbs. What people are criticizing is Asana, not Yoga. So does that mean the other limbs of Yoga can open you up to demons? Or is it about intention? Or is about the intention of the founder of the practice? People who say "they have done the research" seem to never have actually done the research.......When it comes to oppression -- Saul in the OT was oppressed not possessed which is where I think I lot of Christians get this idea. When it comes to my experience with spirits in the new age, oppression makes a lot more sense because usually they don't tend to stick around (which as a new ager was something I was always chasing after bc they made you feel good not bad)......I'm glad I watched because as usual this humanized Isiah which I appreciate! PS there are many Christians that think that chiropractic is opening a door to the demonic!!! ;)
This was amazing!!!! We watched this tonight as a family and felt so thankful for this video. It was a reminder of what the body of Christ should Look like: unified,loving, deep, edifying and HAPPY!😂❤
Oh my goodness I am floored. I heard that name too Isaiah, weeks ago praying to God asking what was wrong with me. I came up with nothing on google because I didn’t think to look it up in Greek. Thanks Paul and Morgan for sharing, I was meant to hear that for sure. Proves to me that I didn’t make it up in my head.
Absolutely loved this! This is what we need in these times. More uncomfortable talks, more transparency within brothers/sisters in Christ, & more unity! The laughs were a bonus too! 😁🩷🙏🏼
I've been watching Paul and Morgan for a while and they've been such a blessing to my faith. I just want to take this opportunity to express my gratitude for them and my absolute support in what they're doing in terms of unification in the body.
I love when we can disagree without being hostile. I respect Paul and Isaiah for respecting each other without questioning each other’s salvation or attacking one another personally.
Great first episode for this new series! Thank you for doing your part to bring unity for the Body of Christ! I always love this quote by Augustine, talking about how we should behave with fellow believers, “In what is necessary[core doctrines], unity; in what is not necessary, liberty and in all things charity [or love].” I think it sums up what you both are striving for here. ❤
Glad to finally see unity in the body of Christ 🧡 we can disagree, be different members of the body of Christ, and still love Jesus! Thanks for exemplifing this!
Loved the video, here’s something to think about: If you’re uncomfortable renouncing and repenting of things you think you don’t need to or you think you’re not dealing with, that itself says something…It shouldn’t make you feel uncomfortable so if it does, maybe the Lord is exposing, revealing, or highlighting something to you.
I was counting down for this! Worth the wait and worth every minute! I'm so excited to see more of these. I love seeing the humility, humor, and love from all sides. "Whatever I do in moderation, my kids will do in excess." Is so profound and can apply to so many things. Love the edits, music, everything about this!
So.. when I was much younger, I was raped and I had a demon, or it may have been an attack of a demon for bed wetting and when I received Jesus christ as my lord and Savior, almost immediately I stopped wetting the bed. I believe the demons will take anything and everything to try to distract us for our purposes. God bless all my brothers and sisters
There's one Spirit...who is called the "Spirit of Truth." Agreeing to disagree is one of the biggest problems in the so called Church today. Why do we need to disagree? This is only a symptom of pride imo. The goal is unity in TRUTH. Saints worship in Spirit and in TRUTH. Why not continue dialogue until there is unity regardless of how long it takes?
Loved seeing this! I am inspired by Isaiah’s boldness and him not backing down from what he believes. I also loved hearing that he has a team of overseers🙌🏽
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Really well produced and with fair and balanced editing. You guys show that genuine Christians who disagree on (still important, but) secondary issues can respectfully dialogue and engage and wrestle whilst simultaneously recognizing each other as brothers and sisters in Christ, and that's so refreshing to see. It'd be interesting if maybe after these 24 hour videos the both of you make a short 5 or 10 minute review of said 24 hour videos so as to give your thoughts on it all - kinda like how you did at the end of this video but as a separate review video. I'm looking forward to the next 24 Hours video! I'm a newly subscribed UK viewer!
I was really afraid I would feel second hand embarrassment or be cringing the whole time because I have a hard time watching debates and confrontation. But this was not that at all! Great video I’m so happy you were able to start so strong!
I was laughing while they were arguing 😂 this is kinda how I would imagine the disciples arguing amongst each other while walking with Jesus, like siblings fighting 😂😂😂
Amazing! The fact of Christians standing together! Amazing! Love it! Even if we don’t agree on everything doesn’t matter! We are all brothers and sisters in Christ 😁
People are very quick to say they need deliverance when all they really need is discipline. Claiming the need of deliverance is not accepting responsibility. Demons cannot possess a believer in Christ where the Holy Spirt dwells. Demons can only oppress those who have the Holy Spirit and that is where the error is made.
I literally had the thought not too long ago about the weird manifestation of laughter during sermons being something that not only takes people out of listening, but something that at its core is mocking God and mocking the person delivering the message because they’re bringing truth. It’s never been something that sat right with me but I couldn’t figure out what it was. So glad that I’m not the only one who’s found this weird 🙏🏻 great vid guys! Keep up the great work!
Ahh this was soo good!!! So glad you guys did this and started with Isaiah 🤩 I’ve recently become a big fan of his, and I’ve followed you guys since your channel started around 2017 I think.. I saw your promo on Instagram for this and was so excited to see what it would be like! Excited to watch you do this with Vlad!! 😄👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Vlad said spirit of ADDICTION- then listed specific things people are addicted to ( thumb sucking & bed wetting) he did not say demon of bed wetting or thumb sucking. Now THATS a stretch. Come on now. Misquoted definitely.
@@knicholas8768 you can literally be addicted to anything and any addiction can be a demon. Surely he said something so uncommon because the Holy Spirit told him to according to someone who was listening. Thats how God works
Paul, I'm proud of you for standing your ground and challenging him. Isaiah has a very convincing way of talking and he's just so enthusiastic about what he talks about which easily draws people in and makes them agree with him. He's a good and fast talker! But that doesn't mean what he's saying is necessarily true. I mean him saying the Bible says not to drink wine is just false. The Bible does not say that. He's definitely not open to your cessationist beliefs but mocks it a little because he just fully convinced of deliverance. So if he's not ready to listen to other perspectives there's no need for you to compromise on your faith as well. Well done!
Galatians 5:19-21: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: ... drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery.
This was amazing! Wow I’m so happy to see my two worlds collide! My calm relaxing world of Paul and Morgan and my wild world of deliverance with Isaiah! ❤️❤️🙌🙌 love it! 😂😂 this was awesome can’t wait to see more 24 hrs 👏👏👏👏
Wow, great job! This was produced very well, you guys have a gift with this format. I can't wait to see the other episodes of this series! Great seeing Isaiah and family "behind the scenes".
We as the body of Christ need MORE of this! God bless you guys, thank you for your love and devotion first and foremost to our Heaven Father and to His body. You both have such a grace to doing this, can’t wait for more!
This was such a fun episode! Great work, P&M!🥳 It was interesting to listen to Isaiah's viewpoints... I never really knew much about him before this introduction, but he seems pretty sound and sincere! Super based on most topics! 👌🏻 I love how he's so excuberant and on fire for the Lord!🔥 Just started listening to some of his podcasts, and his testimony is so cool! Love to hear how God is at work in the lives of others!🤍 Anyway, keep up the hard work, y'all! I'm looking forward to the upcoming episodes of 24 Hours With!!!🤗 And I do believe that yoga, and drunkenness are wrong. I love how Isaiah says that what you do in moderation, your children will do in excess! So true! Even if a little alcohol might not 'harm you' it's still associated with spirits, and since we're supposed to abstain from all appearance of evil, I just don't know how it could be edifying...🤷🏻♀️ Thoughts? I definitely was of the opinion that Christians can be oppressed, but not possessed by demons, but I really like how Isaiah explained it... Definitely gives me something to ponder!
@andastre6746 I often see signs like 'Stop here for beer, liquor, spirits, cigarettes, etc.' So in my mind they kind of all get associated with the kingdom of darkness. I guess I'd personally rather give it up and err on the side of caution, rather than living on the edge and either falling into the sin is drunkenness, or possibly causing others to stumble. 💁🏻♀️ Don't take me wrong though, it's not like I think because you might drink a little in moderation, you aren't saved. I'm not the Judge, but this is my personal conviction. 😊
Really great episode! First time watching you on your platform. Grateful for loving conversation between believers and opinions being shared. This is how we as "Christians" should be always!
We just posted a video short on our views of wine and alcohol. Gotta agree with Paul on that one. But we agree with Isaiah more on deliverance and yoga. But love the discussions!!! Love all of them.
As a prophetic person, when the Jezebel spirit has operated against me in my life, especially throughout my entire childhood, it was exactly like how Elijah felt when we went into the cave. I can 100% testify to that. I would just want to die. Yes it was a paralyzing feeling. I had no idea it was even a thing until I learned that’s what the Jezebel spirit does to Gods prophets
Thank you so much for this video! I feel like it really opened my eyes up to different beliefs and I can see and respect why people have the views they do, including Isaiah. Praise God for the work He is doing in you guys with this project. I can’t wait to see how this develops and grows! Bring it on 2024! 🙏🏼💜
This was awesome!!! I didn’t know much about Isaiah going into this, but your video made me feel like I know him! This brings such humanity to the people behind the screens and it’s easier to understand everyone’s points of views when you get more time with them. Love to hear people be able to disagree without being hateful! Really good, you guys!!!
I enjoyed this, I watch Isaiah, and I wasn’t so sure about you two, but watching this and see you two interact with him made me really start to enjoy you guys too. This was great, thanks for sharing
Glad you looked up about the chiropractic origins!! A lot of Christians don't know that, so it wasn't exactly "comparing apples to oranges" 😅you guys did a Wonderful job!!!👏💞
I honestly align more with Paul & Morgan, but thank you for sharing long conversations with this guy! I truly learned a lot & he had such confident & bible filled responses, it made me want to learn more!
i absolutely love this!!! there’s something about Isaiah’s humor that cracks me up just on his streams so seeing all this and into his life was really cool, you guys had me laughing the whole time lol. Thanks for bringing him on your channel for others to really see his character and into his life, people are way too quick to judge him based off 10 second deliverance clips without actually sitting down to listen to him or what the bible says about deliverance. this was so well done!
You guys did an amazing job with the production and video itself. Loved it! Love to see Christians be able to openly discuss topics in a civil way, even if they disagree. Love hearing all the different perspectives and all the ways we each interpret the word of God. It’s all for the Glory of God at the end of the day! ❤️
Am so happy you guys did this. I must be honest and say that looking from the outside in as opposed to experiencing deliverance and freedom from the receiving end and or conducting it makes a huge difference. To be able to see the change and acknowledge what caused the change and what influenced the change, negatively and positively from both the deliverance minister and the person who gets delivered point of view.....makes a whole lot of difference. I now understand why Isaiah always says if you've never done deliverance, then your opinion on it is not valid until you do. Not exactly how he said it but its a similar understanding. Paul maybe you should try getting delivered. Your wife received freedom through it and you can too. There is no shame in it. Let your mind be open to the idea and receive freedom, if you haven't already, Jesus delivered many in his time here on earth, we were told to do greater. I wanna say that when Morgan was talking about being at the church and hearing the pastor call the different spirits out and telling everyone to repent, tbh why would anyone take offence to that, in my opinion, its freedom that is taken place, so whether I had that particular spirit or not, why not repent anyway, at the end of the day am gonna be free. Its just the same as answering an alter call, each time you're in church, in your opinion you know you are living righteously before God by his grace but you still answer to the call, so that your heart remains humbled before God. I love Isaiah's temperament and love, even in the parts where you had disagreements. Once you have an understanding or first hand experience of deliverance, it changes the way you speak and view things. It is such a pity how many are still in bondage because they haven't recognize, acknowledge or receive freedom through deliverance. Continue to Grow in Christ, God bless you all
I appreciate this. Satan does everything he can to separate God’s people. Being able to sit down and rationally talk about our beliefs and why is important.
@@PaulandMorgan I hope this finds you guys well Note to Paul and morgan This is going to be a relatively long message. I hope you guys read it all. I just want to start by saying there are many things I like about your channel and I like that in some areas you guys are balanced however there is something important to bring up. Paul and Morgan I truly understand your heart for unity among Christian's and I appreciate that heart but this is compromising unity I don't know if you are aware in your trailer of your project but you included Marcus rogers in your trailer you are aware that He is as far as I know is a non trinintarian I'll leave a link at the end to a video discussion this , but unity in truth Matters that's what Jesus prayed to the father on our behalf for not just ordinary unity but unity in truth John 17:17-21 BSB [17] SANCTIFY THEM BY THE TRUTH; YOUR WORD IS TRUTH. [18] As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world. [19] For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth. [20] I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, [21] that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. We must be United in truth and yes I'm aware paul said this in one of your videos and I'm aware Paul doesn't agree with Isaiah on everything but that truth must be found in God's Word the problem is Isaiah's teachings aren't rooted in truth or scripture.I've seen His videos more often than not he appeals to experiences , here is the problem experiences can be demonic and intentional deceiving in order to bring deception We are to be bereans And the bereans were scripture centered not experience centered they tested even the Apostle Paul by scripture and that's how Christian's should be Acts 17:10-11 BSB [10] As soon as night had fallen, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went into the Jewish synagogue. [11] Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true. The Apostle Paul warns us about experiences that lead to another Gospel Galatians 1:8 BSB [8] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! So here the Apostle goes as far to say if an angel comes and preaches another Gospel we should reject such a message coming from a supernatural angelic visit. You know what's interesting: many cults were started by Angel's visiting the founder and teaching another Gospel. For example Mormonism the founder Joseph Smith claimed an angel appeared to him Islam was supposedly started by Mohammed having the angel gabriel appearing to him My point is simply you can't trust experiences Outside scripture many cults were started in such a way so how can you trust Isaiah's experiences that they are from God and aren't demonic in order to bring deception into people's lives Scripture is clear believers can't be demon Possessed. I just wanna make something clear I don't hate or have any malice toward Isaiah saldivar I actually care for the fact that he is in error and for his soul I believe he just like every human bears the image of God and Jesus died for him however I think his beliefs are heretical not merely a Brother in error , His views on deliverance lead to a weaker understanding on the third person of the Trinity Scripture makes it clear that Christian's don't need deliverance we already experienced deliverance the moment we became saved see Colossians 1:13-14 Colossians 1:13-14 ESV 13] He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, [14] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Notice Paul says Christian's have already been Delivered from the Domain of Darkness ie satan's Control through Christs sacrifice by becoming a Christian we already experiences deliverance from the devil Here is a Good point 1-all unsaved People are Children of Darkness or Sons of disobedience or as Jesus called the unbelieving Jews Children of the devil John 8:44 Since unbelievers follow their father's ways this gives the devil full reign over his Children Which includes indwelling them with his minions however when we become saved we are delivered from that kingdom and now the Holy spirit indwells us and He Guards us and prevents the devil from indwelling us because we are now Children of God not Children of the devil This is perfectly consistent with 1 John 5:18-19 1 John 5:18-19 BSB [18] We know that anyone born of God does not keep on sinning; the One who was born of God protects him, and the evil one cannot touch him. [19] We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one. The evil one ( the Devil ) cannot touch us he has lost a certain grip on Us by virtue of us being born again If a Christian can be indwelt by a demon then 1 John 4:4 Would be meaningless 1 John 4:4 BSB [4] You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. If the one in us is greater than the one in the world and in context than it implies the Hply spirit is greater than what's outside and of demons could also be in believers this statement would be meaningless We have clear scriptures talking about the indwelling Holy Spirit ( See 1 Corinthians 3:16 , 6:19 ,Romans 8:9) Romans 8:9 clearly indicates to have the Holy spirit is what it means to be a Christian no Holy spirit not saved because the Spirit makes us Children of God Also just a quick note what Jesus said about demons in Matthew 12 Matthew 12:43-44 BSB [43] When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. [44] Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order. Notice this text clearly teaches once a demon Goes out the person is vacant Ie unoccupied Which implies the Holy spirit wasn't there when the demon was there . This happens shortly after Jesus casts a demon out of someone. Jesus explains a demon leaves and comes back to an empty or vacant house which again leads us to the conclusion that once you have the Holy spirit you aren't empty or vacant but are indwelt by the third person of the trinity. My main problem with Isaiah's teaching who's to say the demon doesn't come back since Christian's aren't truly protected and this ends up making a weak Holy spirit theology I hope you guys consider what I'm saying about this issue it's not a secondary issue anything regarding being demon possessed isn't secondary issue that's very much a salvation issue because you either have Holy spirit or you don't you can't have a demon a being from the kingdom of Darkness and the Holy spirit the one who brought us from spiritual darkness to light into the kingdom of God
@@PaulandMorgan I hope this finds you guys well Note to Paul and morgan This is going to be a relatively long message. I hope you guys read it all. I just want to start by saying there are many things I like about your channel and I like that in some areas you guys are balanced however there is something important to bring up. And what I'm about to say is In love and not in hate I care for my fellow Christians and for their well being. Paul and Morgan I truly understand your heart for unity among Christian's and I appreciate that heart but this is compromising unity I don't know if you are aware in your trailer of your project but you included Marcus rogers in your trailer you are aware that He is as far as I know is a non trinintarian I'll leave a link at the end to a video discussion this , but unity in truth Matters that's what Jesus prayed to the father on our behalf for not just ordinary unity but unity in truth John 17:17-21 BSB [17] SANCTIFY THEM BY THE TRUTH; YOUR WORD IS TRUTH. [18] As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world. [19] For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth. [20] I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, [21] that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. We must be United in truth and yes I'm aware paul said this in one of your videos and I'm aware Paul doesn't agree with Isaiah on everything but that truth must be found in God's Word the problem is Isaiah's teachings aren't rooted in truth or scripture.I've seen His videos more often than not he appeals to experiences , here is the problem experiences can be demonic and intentional deceiving in order to bring deception We are to be bereans And the bereans were scripture centered not experience centered they tested even the Apostle Paul by scripture and that's how Christian's should be Acts 17:10-11 BSB [10] As soon as night had fallen, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went into the Jewish synagogue. [11] Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true. And our final authority is in scripture not experiences 2 Timothy 3:16-17 BSB [16] All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, [17] so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work. The Apostle Paul warns us about experiences that lead to another Gospel Galatians 1:8 BSB [8] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! So here the Apostle goes as far to say if an angel comes and preaches another Gospel we should reject such a message coming from a supernatural angelic visit. You know what's interesting: many cults were started by Angel's visiting the founder and teaching another Gospel. For example Mormonism the founder Joseph Smith claimed an angel appeared to him Islam was supposedly started by Mohammed having the angel gabriel appearing to him My point is simply you can't trust experiences Outside scripture many cults were started in such a way so how can you trust Isaiah's experiences that they are from God and aren't demonic in order to bring deception into people's lives Scripture is clear believers can't be demon Possessed. I just wanna make something clear I don't hate or have any malice toward Isaiah saldivar I actually care for the fact that he is in error and for his soul I believe he just like every human bears the image of God and Jesus died for him however I think his beliefs are heretical not merely a Brother in error , His views on deliverance lead to a weaker understanding on the third person of the Trinity Scripture makes it clear that Christian's don't need deliverance we already experienced deliverance the moment we became save see Colossians 1:13-14 Colossians 1:12-14 ESV 13] He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, [14] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Notice Paul says Christian's have already been Delivered from the Domain of Darkness ie satan's Control through Christs sacrifice by becoming a Christian we already experiences deliverance from the devil Here is a way to point it out. 1-all unsaved People are Children of Darkness or Sons of disobedience or as Jesus called the unbelieving Jews Children of the devil John 8:44 Since unbelievers follow their father's ways this gives the devil full reign over his Children Which includes indwelling them with his minions however when we become saved we are delivered from that kingdom and now the Holy spirit indwells us and He Guards us and prevents the devil from indwelling us because we are now Children of God not Children of the devil This is perfectly consistent with 1 John 5:18-19 1 John 5:18-19 BSB [18] We know that anyone born of God does not keep on sinning; the One who was born of God protects him, and the evil one cannot touch him. [19] We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one. The evil one ( the Devil ) cannot touch us he has lost a certain grip on Us by virtue of us being born again If a Christian can be indwelt by a demon then 1 John 4:4 Would be meaningless 1 John 4:4 BSB [4] You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. If the one in us is greater than the one in the world and in context than it implies the Hply spirit is greater than what's outside and of demons could also be in believers this statement would be meaningless We have clear scriptures talking about the indwelling Holy Spirit ( See 1 Corinthians 3:16 , 6:19 ,Romans 8:9) Romans 8:9 clearly indicates to have the Holy spirit is what it means to be a Christian no Holy spirit not saved because the Spirit makes us Children of God Also scripture only talks about one internal struggle believers face the flesh not demons in us see Galatians 5:16-17 Galatians 5:16-17 BSB [16] So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. [17] For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want. Also just a quick note what Jesus said about demons in Matthew 12 Matthew 12:43-44 BSB [43] When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. [44] Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order. Notice this text clearly teaches once a demon Goes out ,the person is vacant Ie unoccupied Which implies the Holy spirit wasn't there when the demon was there . This happens shortly after Jesus casts a demon out of someone. Jesus explains a demon leaves and comes back to an empty or vacant house which again leads us to the conclusion that once you have the Holy spirit you aren't empty or vacant but are indwelt by the third person of the trinity and unless someone can bind the Holy Spirit they can't enter My main problem with Isaiah's teaching who's to say the demon doesn't come back since Christian's aren't truly protected and this ends up making a weak Holy spirit theology and ultimately could lead to a works based salvation since you have to go back for deliverance if they come back Scripture says if the Son sets you free you are really Free( John 8:36) “and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom” ( 2 Corinthians 3:17 I hope you guys consider what I'm saying about this issue. It's not a secondary issue; anything regarding being demon possessed isn't a secondary issue that's very much a salvation issue to either truly have the Holy spirit with no demons or you the demons and no Holy The too can't mix. Here is the information on Markus Rogers th-cam.com/users/liveIvPu-MySarc?si=PgrxKsrtHhMmJp2l
This was such a great conversation.! It made me curious to dive deeper into the word of God. Manier times when I read the word and find something that really challenges my way of living, it just blows my mind that there is so much wisdom in God's word, it makes me wonder how will I ever be able to comprehend these things with my little human understanding. This conversation was similar, I am more excited to study the word of God. Thank you for this. Thankful for your ministries Paul, Morgan and Isaiah. Much love and blessings your way❤❤❤
This is so good!!! I laughed sooooooo much. I’m grateful that we can have healthy conversations on topics we don’t necessarily agree with and still LOVE each other. Great job! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
There are so many ex new agers who speak against yoga. One of them that comes to mind is Steven Bancarz. Yoga poses are body prayers. There’s a difference between stretching (which we should all do) and yoga poses. I took some dance classes a few years back. The studio offered 30 minutes of stretching after dance. It was yoga. The teacher was telling us to feel the energy around us and bring it inside and made poses. I love stretching, I stretch to be flexible and relieve discomfort/pain and that was NOT only stretches like I was led to believe.
I don’t agree with everything Isaiah has taught but I follow his channel and respect him immensely bc he is authentic and it shows even more in this video. Thank you for highlighting that and finding common ground and love with another believer who has varying convictions- this is a beautiful example. ❤
I’ll admit (please hear me out cuz I want to encourage y’all!) as a long time follower and supporter of you guys, even more so as you guys left the hyper-charismatic community, I was a little hesitant to get excited for this project because to put so many differing beliefs out there and so much debate could, in my mind, only lead to more confusion and disunity. But thank the Lord for the Holy Spirit’s guiding and our free will to discern and decide what the Lord shows and teaches us! I disagree with much of what was shared by Isaiah, but I was beyond blessed by this episode! How refreshing and beautiful to see believers discuss, disagree, but have the same driving passions and desires when you boil it down! To see the friendly debate and to really be forced to test what you believe and what Scripture says. Thank you guys. I am hooked and so excited for the episodes to come!!
This was great! Thank you guys for making this video. I definitely believe what you are called to do is Holy Spirit breathed and I can’t wait to see more videos like this one. ❤🙌✝️
We are so excited to finally be dropping the first episode of our new series, 24HRS WITH! There was so much we talked about with Isaiah! How did you all feel about some of the topics we covered? (Christians with demons, yoga, alcohol,…etc.) We believe that our goal was reached in this first episode, to unite, grow and entertain! Do you? 😊
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Loved the episode I enjoyed the push back from both sides. Love y’all all (ps Paul ask Mike Signorelli about the alcohol thing he did a very good video on it) (Isaiah did good too lol but anyway). I loved the video it was fun I hope y’all keep going and hope this comment encourages you cause you are going to get hate during these videos.
Loved the editing, I think it covered good ground in all aspects.
My thoughts on alcohol:
Isaiah ignores Bible context 😰🚩--
Proverbs 23:29-35 ESV
[29] Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? [30] Those who tarry long over wine; those who go to try mixed wine. [31] Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. [32] In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder. [33] Your eyes will see strange things, and your heart utter perverse things. [34] You will be like one who lies down in the midst of the sea, like one who lies on the top of a mast. [35] “They struck me,” you will say, “but I was not hurt; they beat me, but I did not feel it. When shall I awake? I must have another drink.”
( context: drunkenness and debauchery)
God's good gifts are meant to be enjoyed, not abused. Moderation in all things.
Proverbs 25:16 ESV
[16] If you have found honey, eat only enough for you, lest you have your fill of it and vomit it.
I think the topics and discussions were good. Paul did a good job of making them spicy while showing how you can discuss and disagree yet still love and respect. Isaiah displayed respect and humility as well as holding strong to his convictions. I have ridden the fence about deliverance for a while and am still sceptical about certain things but Isaiah gained alot more credibility in my eyes not that that means anything. But when you see people from a platform sometimes it seems so fabricated and designed to appeal to an audience but this showed how genuine he really is about his beliefs. I appreciated this video alot. Thank you!
I left 2 comments below. I believe the topics are important but that the conversation only went skin deep. I have concerns about how scripture is being used. I agreed with you Paul in spirit on some things but I believe you need to prepare more before tackling these topics publicly. I don't believe all the laughing was appropriate...it is a symptom of being uncomfortable but not knowing how to process the situation. It is akin to flattery when it is used to keep the atmosphere light and entertaining. Saints shouldn't be concerned with entertainment because it is the Devil's substitute for joy, peace, etc. I would let that feeling lead you into truth in those moments. Be honest about the disrespect being shown. Address accusations head on. For example, not saying whether you drink or not is irrelevant to the topic and you didn't feel the need to share. In a debate that would be appropriate and would actually make Isaiah look bad because he's bordering an ad hominem attack by asking personal questions and deflecting from your argument that Paul commanded the use of wine sometimes. Isaiah never answered that idea...he deflected. So, this "unity" attempt only cripples people of good character who are trying to be nice. The enemy uses empathy against the Church. This method of attack needs to be identified, called out and then destroyed. The truth of the mater is that Isaiah used 1 verse about alcohol without sharing verses that speak of it in a positive light. For example, if wine = venom then an obvious concern is did Jesus poison everyone at the wedding in Cana? Or, was it not "hard liquor?" There are some verses that speak of STRONG wine in the context of the kingdom of God. And, so we must compare ALL scripture on a topic to come away with the right understanding. Taking a legalistic mindset against alcohol isn't the right approach even though there are some good reasons to be wary of it. The law of liberty spoken of by James is basically the law of love. It doesn't focus on "don't drink alcohol." Instead, it focuses on "what is the most loving thing to use alcohol for." The purpose of the God's law is pure and clean and those that are led by the HS look past the LETTER which kills to the SPIRIT that gives life.
So, to sum up, drinking alcohol isn't a sin in and of itself, yet Isaiah isn't wrong about his reasons for being careful. And, those reasons can be addressed one by one so that the Royal Law can be kept without sacrificing freedom in Christ and becoming enslaved to the legalism of men. Jesus said that the traditions of the Pharisees nullified God's commandments.
But, I will praise you all for your courage to tackle difficult topics, to put your effort, faces, etc on display for all to critique. I hope and pray that you all have sincere motives in this endeavor and if so that YHWH would bless your work for the Kingdom.
Thanks so much for doing this! I'm so excited for the other episodes to come! Praying this brings much-needed unity and understanding to the body of Christ! Love you both!
We loved the way this first episode came together! It was fun, deep and spicy. Appreciate your generosity and getting to spend time with your family❤️
Hey Isaiah. How would you hope for the unity of the body of Christ when you just last week put out a video about tb joshua based on a bbc documentary. You believed a secular documentary about a holy man more than seeking the Holy Spirit to know whether this is true or not. Are you gonna believe Judas testimony about Jesus. Why don’t you ask Peter, James and John about Jesus Christ, I mean why didn’t you first try to contact the close disciples of tb joshua before you put out a video. Is it not what you did that’s dividing the body of Christ?
I bless God for what God is doing through you but I am disappointed that you chose to believe a lie without any evidence.
David Did Not force himself on Bathsheba . What would you say about the chiropractor post, put in this video? I agree about yoga.
I absolutely loves this!
@@nagashalomso you’re claiming that Isaiah’s causing division yet simultaneously claiming that the statements/interviews in the documentary are lies? So u were there to know & witness everything that took place? Yeah, highly doubt that! You’re doing thee exact same thing you’re accusing Isaiah for.. “making an assumption”. When in fact it’s been plainly put out there that this man abused, tricked, & misled sooo many people. Unfortunately we can see that you’re one of the ones being misled.
I was at the Jezebel teaching Isaiah did at Lifesong last year. Right at the end of the sermon Isaiah begins to cast it out of the crowd (for anyone who may have had it) and my friend immediately starts screaming uncontrollably. She was delivered of that “Jezebel” spirit and she was absolutely thrilled because it was something she had been battling for a long time.
God is so good and faithful!!!
I enjoy watching Paul/Morgan’s content and Isaiah’s.
Such a cool project. Thank you for this!
Wow, that’s very interesting!
Do you happen to know about the origins of the “jezebel” spirit as it is known today?
lmfao
Yaywe love Isaiah we are partners with his ministry. The Lord revealed to my husband and I that I needed deliverance. I’m so thankful that Isaiah videos lead me to get help. I had a hard childhood and was sexually assaulted at age 16. Years of trauma built up and anxiety. Jesus set me free yes as a Christian. My husband and I are being called to help get people set free. If any Christian is thinking about getting deliverence do it. I never thought I would be free from my trauma. God completely healed me and delivered me. It took over 2.5 years watching videos learning going to church’s. Jesus set me free I will always be grateful.
Watching Isaiah's vidoes brought me to getting delivered in my room alone! I am free now and am sharing Jesus with everyone! ❤️
I had depression since I was 12 years old and now it's gone! Praise God! I am 27 years old now 😊
Finally rewatched the video again after seeing it when it premiered but had missed some parts. This was really good. I’ve only known about deliverance for about 2 years now and before that, I did not know much about it. I was actually kind of scared of it at first when I started seeing the videos of people manifesting, but it wasn’t until I attended a mass deliverance and got delivered and healed that I then believed that yes, Christians can have demons. For reference, I am a born-again Christian - I have attended a non-denominational church since I was a baby - my parents were youth leaders when I was a child, I was part of the Youth Group leadership team at the church that I attended. (I attended that same church for 26 years before I moved out of state.) So when I attended the mass deliverance in 2022, I was afraid of what was going to happen. I started renouncing pretty much everything that the Pastor said to renounce because I didn’t know what demon or demons I would have - and then I started manifesting but it wasn’t anything too crazy - I started coughing at one point and then just crying. The Lord set me free that night and it was the best thing I could have ever done. Oh, how I wish that I would have known about deliverance years prior because I believe that I wouldn’t have wasted so many years struggling but it was all in God’s timing. Now that I’ve been delivered, I just want everyone else to be delivered too because there truly is freedom in Christ Jesus. 🙌🏼
I’m excited to see the other episodes. Great job Paul and Morgan!! 🎉💕
Thank you for sharing your story😊
I just wished that I knew the little I know about deliverance in my youth years too… not to waste so much time, I can relate.
While I still greatly disagree with Isaiah on a ton of things, I appreciate how he is a loving father and husband and tries his best to follow the Lord. Thanks for doing this guys!
Solid comment, appreciate you bro❤️
Ya mad weird ya want Isaiah on here for views you all a clown 🤡 Paul you a clown and your wife too weirdos ya just want views you gonna sit there and reply to Isaiah comment about having him there and on this comment you talking mad crazy agreeing with this clown 🤡 all ya clowns on here
@@PaulandMorganI agree with the above statement. He seems really nice and solid, but I'm still not sold on a born again Christian having demons and NO way a person filled with demons are going to willingly go to church to cast them out....no demon possessed person went to jesus on their own accord 🙏🏻🇿🇦❤️🔥 good work you guys and your baby boy is gorgeous!!
@@tanjasmit7535 🙏🙏
why did you stop uploading?
This is like watching our life 😂 always taking about the things of the Lord, busy kids running around the house, walking with friends daily while we talk about things of the Lord.
Totally loved this!
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Love Christians coming together and being one in the body even with disagreements how vastly different that looks from the world and how needed this is amazing!!!!!!
Right on!🙏
I never been to this channel, I only listened to Isaiah and have had deliverance listening to his videos. All glory to God. I just don't understand why so many ppl here are so offended about deliverance
Because it’s a different gospel with doctrines that are man made and not found outlined in the scriptures. If this is so important for the believer, why is it mentioned 0 times in the NT letters for how churches should operate and how to live the Christian life? If this was so important, Paul, Peter, James, John, someone would have outlined parameters and methods in order to be effective. But when it’s not there, you get man made doctrines like Isaiah saying demons don’t have regular names and manifesting bird fear demons. We have 1 mediator between man and God that can forgive our sin and free us (1 Tim 2:5). This practice makes man a mediator that we can go to for something that scripture clearly says Christ is our mediator for.
I had never experienced deliverance but my whole life I had voices in my head telling me I was worthless, not good enough, I had extreme fear, rage among other things I went through deliverance prayer and all these things were gone I no longer have these thoughts in my head I no longer experience rage I fully believe I was set free from these things/ demons for many years I dealt with these things 40 plus years nothing could help them I went through deliverance prayer and these things were completely gone!
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I agree with Isaiah, if you were to go to his church, you wouldn’t think it would be his home church. It’s def not what people imagine. I’ve visited a few times, and they have some amazing worship, and word, and I love how they do the altar prayer.
Visiting his home church was how I came to find out that they were open to deliverances and scheduling them with whoever needs it.
Growing up in a Baptist Church, deliverance was never talked about. And learning about deliverance has really changed so much. it has given language to so many unexplainable things in my life.
By the way, I ended up scheduling a deliverance with his church. Even though it was two hours away from my home, I know I need to make it happen. I can’t begin to express how beautiful my deliverance day was. I had never experienced the love of God in such a deep way, and so intimately. My deliverance truly pointed me back to the love of the father.
That church does such a good job in stewing their deliverance ministry. I can go on forever. Maybe I’ll just make a TH-cam video about it lol.
This was FASCINATING. Thank you guys! Great job! Praise the Lord!🙏🏻
Awe love hearing that, Nikki!! Amen🙏❤️
Exactly why Isaiah is my fave pastor. He’s humble, rock solid in the word, and sold out for Jesus. He has compassion to help people get see free not because he’s obsessed with demons but because he’s using the authority that Jesus Christ gave him to change the world. Literally!
What accredited theological institution did your fav pastor receive his divinity degree from? Based on my Christian upbringing he comes across to me as another heretic, just like Paul and Morgan.
YESSSSSSS. So excited for this series. Love Isaiah and his ministry and loved seeing the behind the scenes ❤️ God bless you guys!
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This is a prime example of how our personal experiences and the experiences we have with others combined with the kind of knowledge and how much of it we have shapes our beliefs and how we see every aspect of life.
Im a little over halfway through this video. It's really good! - One of my favorite videos I've seen on TH-cam in a while 💜
This was so good! Already trusted and respected his ministry and seeing behind the scenes makes me more confident in his heart for ministry.
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What a great way to model respectful and loving disagreement/debate to the body of Christ ! Many will be blessed by this. I know I was!
Amen!
Isaiah explanations about deliverance, telling the difference between possession and not possession was so helpful. Morgan sharing that her deliverance had manifested through tears. I always thought it had to be crazy like shaking growling ect. This was awesome video
His theology on deliverance is biblically incorrect.
Explain please @@lovegod8582
This episode really spoke to me. I’ve struggled with the thought of if a Christian can have a demon. For years I went to an apostolic church and have seen real deliverance but also the fear of always having a demon or afraid of allowing one in has always been my struggle. It’s been years that I have been away from the apostolic church. Thank you for speaking about this, it totally makes sense! I do actually feel I need deliverance that have been attached for years
Christians without any doubt can have a demon, you don’t have a demon because Christ Jesus The Holy Spirit lives in you. Nowhere in scripture does it say or can be found that Christians can have a demon, so please be at peace, The Lord God lives in your heart and there’s no room for a demon. 🙏🏻♥️
There is nothing to fear, my dear! Look up the sky and see how big our God is. that's how big his protection is to us (and even a WAY bigger). Be bold and brave! And believe me, one deliverance is one of the best gifts from Jesus ❤
Ok I did not expect to love this SO much. Super deep, super helpful, asked the hard questions, was willing to listen and learn but also test everything. SO GOOD and loved all the behind the scene personal touches. Wow I didn’t realize this was the kind of thing I have been craving to see and even experience in my personal life. So often with videos on TH-cam we see “oh let’s get out of our echo chambers so I’m going invite someone on my podcast who is on via zoom and just talk theology.” I’m really getting tired of that… watching you guys IN PERSON together having organic conversations NOT IN A SET but in an actually REAL LIFE ENVIRONMENT was such a treat and is something we never get to see anymore. Thank you for actually FLYING OUT and having the 24 hour EXPERIENCE with Isaiah instead of just the impersonal “zoom call”. This was amazing, thank you.
Awe love this comment so much! Praise God🙏
@@PaulandMorgan it was like a breath of fresh air, really. 🙏🏻
I hesitated for a long time watching this video but I'm glad I did. The concern that Paul expressed with people taking deliverance to extreme happened to me and totally messed my mind up. I was saved out of the new age and used TH-cam predominately as my "community" in the beginning because I had no idea what I was doing. I was the first in my extended family to get saved. So I think this is a valid concern as I became completely paranoid...... ALSO I want to comment on yoga :) I agree that yoga is usually the gateway "drug" for many people into the spiritual. It is something that seems benign enough for atheists/agnostics and then eventually over time they are influenced by other yogis. That being said, when people talk about yoga being demonic in a lot of ways they are being dishonest. Yoga has 8 limbs. What people are criticizing is Asana, not Yoga. So does that mean the other limbs of Yoga can open you up to demons? Or is it about intention? Or is about the intention of the founder of the practice? People who say "they have done the research" seem to never have actually done the research.......When it comes to oppression -- Saul in the OT was oppressed not possessed which is where I think I lot of Christians get this idea. When it comes to my experience with spirits in the new age, oppression makes a lot more sense because usually they don't tend to stick around (which as a new ager was something I was always chasing after bc they made you feel good not bad)......I'm glad I watched because as usual this humanized Isiah which I appreciate! PS there are many Christians that think that chiropractic is opening a door to the demonic!!! ;)
This was amazing!!!! We watched this tonight as a family and felt so thankful for this video. It was a reminder of what the body of Christ should
Look like: unified,loving, deep, edifying and HAPPY!😂❤
Awe that’s amazing🙏❤️
Love this so much
I AM FOR UNITING THE BODY OF CHRIST… KEEP UP THE BLESSED WORK
Oh my goodness I am floored. I heard that name too Isaiah, weeks ago praying to God asking what was wrong with me. I came up with nothing on google because I didn’t think to look it up in Greek. Thanks Paul and Morgan for sharing, I was meant to hear that for sure. Proves to me that I didn’t make it up in my head.
Absolutely loved this! This is what we need in these times. More uncomfortable talks, more transparency within brothers/sisters in Christ, & more unity! The laughs were a bonus too! 😁🩷🙏🏼
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This was absolutely great! It solidified how real deliverance is and how Christian’s can IN FACT have demons in them🥰❤️
I've been watching Paul and Morgan for a while and they've been such a blessing to my faith. I just want to take this opportunity to express my gratitude for them and my absolute support in what they're doing in terms of unification in the body.
Awe thank you so much❤️
Same!
I love when we can disagree without being hostile. I respect Paul and Isaiah for respecting each other without questioning each other’s salvation or attacking one another personally.
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Great first episode for this new series! Thank you for doing your part to bring unity for the Body of Christ!
I always love this quote by Augustine, talking about how we should behave with fellow believers, “In what is necessary[core doctrines], unity; in what is not necessary, liberty and in all things charity [or love].” I think it sums up what you both are striving for here. ❤
Really appreciate the comment🙏
Calm, cool, collected Paul and Morgan! Way to go! Keep standing for truth.
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Glad to finally see unity in the body of Christ 🧡 we can disagree, be different members of the body of Christ, and still love Jesus! Thanks for exemplifing this!
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Loved the video, here’s something to think about: If you’re uncomfortable renouncing and repenting of things you think you don’t need to or you think you’re not dealing with, that itself says something…It shouldn’t make you feel uncomfortable so if it does, maybe the Lord is exposing, revealing, or highlighting something to you.
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Yeah! I also noticed another reason could be fear
I was counting down for this! Worth the wait and worth every minute! I'm so excited to see more of these. I love seeing the humility, humor, and love from all sides. "Whatever I do in moderation, my kids will do in excess." Is so profound and can apply to so many things. Love the edits, music, everything about this!
Awe yay so glad to hear that!
So.. when I was much younger, I was raped and I had a demon, or it may have been an attack of a demon for bed wetting and when I received Jesus christ as my lord and Savior, almost immediately I stopped wetting the bed. I believe the demons will take anything and everything to try to distract us for our purposes. God bless all my brothers and sisters
so sorry you went through that. Jesus is so good to heal you! love that testimony for you
Loooooveeeeddd this and so thankful!!🙌 Amazing boldness and humility from both sides❤
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I love this. Christians should be united despite the differences in their beliefs. Please interview Vlad Savchuk next 😁
We should be able to talk through, challenge and love eachother in spite of minor difference🙏
There's one Spirit...who is called the "Spirit of Truth." Agreeing to disagree is one of the biggest problems in the so called Church today. Why do we need to disagree? This is only a symptom of pride imo. The goal is unity in TRUTH. Saints worship in Spirit and in TRUTH. Why not continue dialogue until there is unity regardless of how long it takes?
Loved seeing this! I am inspired by Isaiah’s boldness and him not backing down from what he believes. I also loved hearing that he has a team of overseers🙌🏽
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This really helped me feel more comfortable about deliverance! I also learned a lot about Isaiah, I see him very differently now.
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I thoroughly enjoyed that. Really well produced and with fair and balanced editing. You guys show that genuine Christians who disagree on (still important, but) secondary issues can respectfully dialogue and engage and wrestle whilst simultaneously recognizing each other as brothers and sisters in Christ, and that's so refreshing to see. It'd be interesting if maybe after these 24 hour videos the both of you make a short 5 or 10 minute review of said 24 hour videos so as to give your thoughts on it all - kinda like how you did at the end of this video but as a separate review video. I'm looking forward to the next 24 Hours video! I'm a newly subscribed UK viewer!
Very well said, and yes, we probably will do some kind of recap, likely as part of the upcoming After Dark episode😊
@@PaulandMorgan Oh cool, that's awesome!
I was really afraid I would feel second hand embarrassment or be cringing the whole time because I have a hard time watching debates and confrontation. But this was not that at all! Great video I’m so happy you were able to start so strong!
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Why would you feel embarrassed?
@@jedition5618 if the interactions were awkward due to conflict
I was laughing while they were arguing 😂 this is kinda how I would imagine the disciples arguing amongst each other while walking with Jesus, like siblings fighting 😂😂😂
Amazing first episode Paul and Morgan! I couldn’t stop watching and just finished it! Great job and praise God!🙌
Awe so glad to hear!
Yes Isaiah Paul needs to watch all your videos
Amazing! The fact of Christians standing together! Amazing! Love it! Even if we don’t agree on everything doesn’t matter! We are all brothers and sisters in Christ 😁
People are very quick to say they need deliverance when all they really need is discipline. Claiming the need of deliverance is not accepting responsibility. Demons cannot possess a believer in Christ where the Holy Spirt dwells. Demons can only oppress those who have the Holy Spirit and that is where the error is made.
I literally had the thought not too long ago about the weird manifestation of laughter during sermons being something that not only takes people out of listening, but something that at its core is mocking God and mocking the person delivering the message because they’re bringing truth. It’s never been something that sat right with me but I couldn’t figure out what it was. So glad that I’m not the only one who’s found this weird 🙏🏻 great vid guys! Keep up the great work!
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So appreciate this and the heart of unity behind it. Let’s show grace and love and still contend for the truth of scripture.
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That was so good! Love seeing behind the scenes! But also, “WELCOME TO MY CRIB!” 😂😂
Haha🙌
Isaiah has really inspired me to look into my bible and believe in the Gospel.
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@@PaulandMorgan you guys should do the same
Ahh this was soo good!!! So glad you guys did this and started with Isaiah 🤩 I’ve recently become a big fan of his, and I’ve followed you guys since your channel started around 2017 I think.. I saw your promo on Instagram for this and was so excited to see what it would be like! Excited to watch you do this with Vlad!! 😄👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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I'm so HERE for this series!!
Let’s gooo🔥🔥
Vlad said spirit of ADDICTION- then listed specific things people are addicted to ( thumb sucking & bed wetting) he did not say demon of bed wetting or thumb sucking. Now THATS a stretch. Come on now. Misquoted definitely.
I’m not sure. Bed wetting is definitely not something you can be addicted to.
@@knicholas8768 you can literally be addicted to anything.
I guess that’s where we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Bed wetting is not an addiction. Nor is it, at least in the majority of cases, a demon.
@@knicholas8768 you can literally be addicted to anything and any addiction can be a demon. Surely he said something so uncommon because the Holy Spirit told him to according to someone who was listening. Thats how God works
Paul, I'm proud of you for standing your ground and challenging him. Isaiah has a very convincing way of talking and he's just so enthusiastic about what he talks about which easily draws people in and makes them agree with him. He's a good and fast talker! But that doesn't mean what he's saying is necessarily true. I mean him saying the Bible says not to drink wine is just false. The Bible does not say that. He's definitely not open to your cessationist beliefs but mocks it a little because he just fully convinced of deliverance. So if he's not ready to listen to other perspectives there's no need for you to compromise on your faith as well. Well done!
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Galatians 5:19-21: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: ... drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery.
I'm very excited for this video and to see what all Paul and Morgan have in store for this series!
This was amazing! Wow I’m so happy to see my two worlds collide! My calm relaxing world of Paul and Morgan and my wild world of deliverance with Isaiah! ❤️❤️🙌🙌 love it! 😂😂 this was awesome can’t wait to see more 24 hrs 👏👏👏👏
Haha love it😄
Wow, great job! This was produced very well, you guys have a gift with this format. I can't wait to see the other episodes of this series! Great seeing Isaiah and family "behind the scenes".
Awe amen❤️
We as the body of Christ need MORE of this! God bless you guys, thank you for your love and devotion first and foremost to our Heaven Father and to His body. You both have such a grace to doing this, can’t wait for more!
Love this! I pray the Lord blesses this mission and your new endeavors! I never comment but I just needed to say this is great content.
Thank you!!
51:48 love Paul's "jazz cup" shirt - great video we enjoyed it
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I absolutely love this
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IT'S FINALLY HERE!!! AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
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This was such a fun episode! Great work, P&M!🥳
It was interesting to listen to Isaiah's viewpoints... I never really knew much about him before this introduction, but he seems pretty sound and sincere! Super based on most topics! 👌🏻 I love how he's so excuberant and on fire for the Lord!🔥 Just started listening to some of his podcasts, and his testimony is so cool! Love to hear how God is at work in the lives of others!🤍
Anyway, keep up the hard work, y'all! I'm looking forward to the upcoming episodes of 24 Hours With!!!🤗
And I do believe that yoga, and drunkenness are wrong. I love how Isaiah says that what you do in moderation, your children will do in excess! So true! Even if a little alcohol might not 'harm you' it's still associated with spirits, and since we're supposed to abstain from all appearance of evil, I just don't know how it could be edifying...🤷🏻♀️ Thoughts?
I definitely was of the opinion that Christians can be oppressed, but not possessed by demons, but I really like how Isaiah explained it... Definitely gives me something to ponder!
How is alcohol associated with spirits? I don’t understand.
Appreciate the comment :) Yes, a lot to think on and search scripture about.
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I often see signs like 'Stop here for beer, liquor, spirits, cigarettes, etc.'
So in my mind they kind of all get associated with the kingdom of darkness.
I guess I'd personally rather give it up and err on the side of caution, rather than living on the edge and either falling into the sin is drunkenness, or possibly causing others to stumble. 💁🏻♀️
Don't take me wrong though, it's not like I think because you might drink a little in moderation, you aren't saved. I'm not the Judge, but this is my personal conviction. 😊
Really great episode! First time watching you on your platform. Grateful for loving conversation between believers and opinions being shared. This is how we as "Christians" should be always!
Awe praise God!
Haha love the idea and the vibe of this video. Appreciate all the effort you put in this guys!
Awesome❤️❤️
We just posted a video short on our views of wine and alcohol. Gotta agree with Paul on that one. But we agree with Isaiah more on deliverance and yoga. But love the discussions!!! Love all of them.
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As a prophetic person, when the Jezebel spirit has operated against me in my life, especially throughout my entire childhood, it was exactly like how Elijah felt when we went into the cave. I can 100% testify to that. I would just want to die. Yes it was a paralyzing feeling. I had no idea it was even a thing until I learned that’s what the Jezebel spirit does to Gods prophets
Thank you so much for this video! I feel like it really opened my eyes up to different beliefs and I can see and respect why people have the views they do, including Isaiah.
Praise God for the work He is doing in you guys with this project. I can’t wait to see how this develops and grows! Bring it on 2024! 🙏🏼💜
Praise God, so glad to hear that Steph!❤️
I love this 24hours!! We need more for the body of Christ!
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This was awesome!!! I didn’t know much about Isaiah going into this, but your video made me feel like I know him! This brings such humanity to the people behind the screens and it’s easier to understand everyone’s points of views when you get more time with them. Love to hear people be able to disagree without being hateful! Really good, you guys!!!
Awe praise God thanks so much guys!!🙏
I enjoyed this, I watch Isaiah, and I wasn’t so sure about you two, but watching this and see you two interact with him made me really start to enjoy you guys too. This was great, thanks for sharing
Glad to hear it😊
Glad you looked up about the chiropractic origins!! A lot of Christians don't know that, so it wasn't exactly "comparing apples to oranges" 😅you guys did a Wonderful job!!!👏💞
Haha I was honestly pretty surprised when I saw that😬
The only way we are all actually "safe" from ALL pagan roots is to just live under a rock😅 I feel Strongly this 24 Hours With is going to be BIG!!🙏💞
There's pagan roots to chiropractic care????
I honestly align more with Paul & Morgan, but thank you for sharing long conversations with this guy! I truly learned a lot & he had such confident & bible filled responses, it made me want to learn more!
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Loved the respectful honest challenges amongst brothers and sisters
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i absolutely love this!!! there’s something about Isaiah’s humor that cracks me up just on his streams so seeing all this and into his life was really cool, you guys had me laughing the whole time lol. Thanks for bringing him on your channel for others to really see his character and into his life, people are way too quick to judge him based off 10 second deliverance clips without actually sitting down to listen to him or what the bible says about deliverance. this was so well done!
I think the husband needs to seek God on deliverance and being set free from the desires of this world and pride. Much love to all of you. ❤
You guys did an amazing job with the production and video itself. Loved it! Love to see Christians be able to openly discuss topics in a civil way, even if they disagree. Love hearing all the different perspectives and all the ways we each interpret the word of God. It’s all for the Glory of God at the end of the day! ❤️
Amen, love hearing that🙏
Love the concept, thank you all for doing this!
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PLEASE KEEP THIS VIDEOS COMING.. ❤
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Am so happy you guys did this.
I must be honest and say that looking from the outside in as opposed to experiencing deliverance and freedom from the receiving end and or conducting it makes a huge difference. To be able to see the change and acknowledge what caused the change and what influenced the change, negatively and positively from both the deliverance minister and the person who gets delivered point of view.....makes a whole lot of difference. I now understand why Isaiah always says if you've never done deliverance, then your opinion on it is not valid until you do. Not exactly how he said it but its a similar understanding.
Paul maybe you should try getting delivered. Your wife received freedom through it and you can too. There is no shame in it. Let your mind be open to the idea and receive freedom, if you haven't already, Jesus delivered many in his time here on earth, we were told to do greater.
I wanna say that when Morgan was talking about being at the church and hearing the pastor call the different spirits out and telling everyone to repent, tbh why would anyone take offence to that, in my opinion, its freedom that is taken place, so whether I had that particular spirit or not, why not repent anyway, at the end of the day am gonna be free. Its just the same as answering an alter call, each time you're in church, in your opinion you know you are living righteously before God by his grace but you still answer to the call, so that your heart remains humbled before God.
I love Isaiah's temperament and love, even in the parts where you had disagreements. Once you have an understanding or first hand experience of deliverance, it changes the way you speak and view things. It is such a pity how many are still in bondage because they haven't recognize, acknowledge or receive freedom through deliverance.
Continue to Grow in Christ, God bless you all
Isaiah daughter in the back getting her pizza so cute. She is a cool little girl 😂 anyway I loved this candid video ❤ great content.
Holy Holy Holy Spirit Fire 🔥 all consuming Love for this very hour!
Love seeing Christian’s politely argue ❤️
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I appreciate this. Satan does everything he can to separate God’s people. Being able to sit down and rationally talk about our beliefs and why is important.
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I hope this finds you guys well
Note to Paul and morgan
This is going to be a relatively long message. I hope you guys read it all.
I just want to start by saying there are many things I like about your channel and I like that in some areas you guys are balanced however there is something important to bring up.
Paul and Morgan I truly understand your heart for unity among Christian's and I appreciate that heart but this is compromising unity I don't know if you are aware in your trailer of your project but you included Marcus rogers in your trailer you are aware that He is as far as I know is a non trinintarian I'll leave a link at the end to a video discussion this , but unity in truth Matters that's what Jesus prayed to the father on our behalf for not just ordinary unity but unity in truth
John 17:17-21 BSB
[17] SANCTIFY THEM BY THE TRUTH; YOUR WORD IS TRUTH. [18] As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world. [19] For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth. [20] I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, [21] that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
We must be United in truth and yes I'm aware paul said this in one of your videos and I'm aware Paul doesn't agree with Isaiah on everything but that truth must be found in God's Word the problem is Isaiah's teachings aren't rooted in truth or scripture.I've seen His videos more often than not he appeals to experiences , here is the problem experiences can be demonic and intentional deceiving in order to bring deception
We are to be bereans
And the bereans were scripture centered not experience centered they tested even the Apostle Paul by scripture and that's how Christian's should be
Acts 17:10-11 BSB
[10] As soon as night had fallen, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went into the Jewish synagogue. [11] Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.
The Apostle Paul warns us about experiences that lead to another Gospel
Galatians 1:8 BSB
[8] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
So here the Apostle goes as far to say if an angel comes and preaches another Gospel we should reject such a message coming from a supernatural angelic visit.
You know what's interesting: many cults were started by Angel's visiting the founder and teaching another Gospel.
For example
Mormonism the founder Joseph Smith claimed an angel appeared to him
Islam was supposedly started by Mohammed having the angel gabriel appearing to him
My point is simply you can't trust experiences
Outside scripture many cults were started in such a way so how can you trust Isaiah's experiences that they are from God and aren't demonic in order to bring deception into people's lives
Scripture is clear believers can't be demon Possessed. I just wanna make something clear I don't hate or have any malice toward Isaiah saldivar I actually care for the fact that he is in error and for his soul I believe he just like every human bears the image of God and Jesus died for him however I think his beliefs are heretical not merely a Brother in error , His views on deliverance lead to a weaker understanding on the third person of the Trinity
Scripture makes it clear that Christian's don't need deliverance we already experienced deliverance the moment we became saved see Colossians 1:13-14
Colossians 1:13-14 ESV
13] He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, [14] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Notice Paul says Christian's have already been Delivered from the Domain of Darkness ie satan's Control through Christs sacrifice by becoming a Christian we already experiences deliverance from the devil
Here is a Good point
1-all unsaved People are Children of Darkness or Sons of disobedience or as Jesus called the unbelieving Jews Children of the devil John 8:44
Since unbelievers follow their father's ways this gives the devil full reign over his Children
Which includes indwelling them with his minions however when we become saved we are delivered from that kingdom and now the Holy spirit indwells us and He Guards us and prevents the devil from indwelling us because we are now Children of God not Children of the devil
This is perfectly consistent with 1 John 5:18-19
1 John 5:18-19 BSB
[18] We know that anyone born of God does not keep on sinning; the One who was born of God protects him, and the evil one cannot touch him. [19] We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.
The evil one ( the Devil ) cannot touch us he has lost a certain grip on Us by virtue of us being born again
If a Christian can be indwelt by a demon then 1 John 4:4 Would be meaningless
1 John 4:4 BSB
[4] You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.
If the one in us is greater than the one in the world and in context than it implies the Hply spirit is greater than what's outside and of demons could also be in believers this statement would be meaningless
We have clear scriptures talking about the indwelling Holy Spirit ( See 1 Corinthians 3:16 , 6:19 ,Romans 8:9)
Romans 8:9 clearly indicates to have the Holy spirit is what it means to be a Christian no Holy spirit not saved because the Spirit makes us Children of God
Also just a quick note what Jesus said about demons in Matthew 12
Matthew 12:43-44 BSB
[43] When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. [44] Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order.
Notice this text clearly teaches once a demon Goes out the person is vacant Ie unoccupied
Which implies the Holy spirit wasn't there when the demon was there . This happens shortly after Jesus casts a demon out of someone. Jesus explains a demon leaves and comes back to an empty or vacant house which again leads us to the conclusion that once you have the Holy spirit you aren't empty or vacant but are indwelt by the third person of the trinity.
My main problem with Isaiah's teaching who's to say the demon doesn't come back since Christian's aren't truly protected and this ends up making a weak Holy spirit theology
I hope you guys consider what I'm saying about this issue it's not a secondary issue anything regarding being demon possessed isn't secondary issue that's very much a salvation issue because you either have Holy spirit or you don't you can't have a demon a being from the kingdom of Darkness and the Holy spirit the one who brought us from spiritual darkness to light into the kingdom of God
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I hope this finds you guys well
Note to Paul and morgan
This is going to be a relatively long message. I hope you guys read it all.
I just want to start by saying there are many things I like about your channel and I like that in some areas you guys are balanced however there is something important to bring up.
And what I'm about to say is In love and not in hate I care for my fellow Christians and for their well being.
Paul and Morgan I truly understand your heart for unity among Christian's and I appreciate that heart but this is compromising unity I don't know if you are aware in your trailer of your project but you included Marcus rogers in your trailer you are aware that He is as far as I know is a non trinintarian I'll leave a link at the end to a video discussion this , but unity in truth Matters that's what Jesus prayed to the father on our behalf for not just ordinary unity but unity in truth
John 17:17-21 BSB
[17] SANCTIFY THEM BY THE TRUTH; YOUR WORD IS TRUTH. [18] As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world. [19] For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth. [20] I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, [21] that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
We must be United in truth and yes I'm aware paul said this in one of your videos and I'm aware Paul doesn't agree with Isaiah on everything but that truth must be found in God's Word the problem is Isaiah's teachings aren't rooted in truth or scripture.I've seen His videos more often than not he appeals to experiences , here is the problem experiences can be demonic and intentional deceiving in order to bring deception
We are to be bereans
And the bereans were scripture centered not experience centered they tested even the Apostle Paul by scripture and that's how Christian's should be
Acts 17:10-11 BSB
[10] As soon as night had fallen, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went into the Jewish synagogue. [11] Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.
And our final authority is in scripture not experiences 2 Timothy 3:16-17 BSB
[16] All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, [17] so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.
The Apostle Paul warns us about experiences that lead to another Gospel
Galatians 1:8 BSB
[8] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
So here the Apostle goes as far to say if an angel comes and preaches another Gospel we should reject such a message coming from a supernatural angelic visit.
You know what's interesting: many cults were started by Angel's visiting the founder and teaching another Gospel.
For example
Mormonism the founder Joseph Smith claimed an angel appeared to him
Islam was supposedly started by Mohammed having the angel gabriel appearing to him
My point is simply you can't trust experiences
Outside scripture many cults were started in such a way so how can you trust Isaiah's experiences that they are from God and aren't demonic in order to bring deception into people's lives
Scripture is clear believers can't be demon Possessed. I just wanna make something clear I don't hate or have any malice toward Isaiah saldivar I actually care for the fact that he is in error and for his soul I believe he just like every human bears the image of God and Jesus died for him however I think his beliefs are heretical not merely a Brother in error , His views on deliverance lead to a weaker understanding on the third person of the Trinity
Scripture makes it clear that Christian's don't need deliverance we already experienced deliverance the moment we became save see Colossians 1:13-14
Colossians 1:12-14 ESV
13] He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, [14] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Notice Paul says Christian's have already been Delivered from the Domain of Darkness ie satan's Control through Christs sacrifice by becoming a Christian we already experiences deliverance from the devil
Here is a way to point it out.
1-all unsaved People are Children of Darkness or Sons of disobedience or as Jesus called the unbelieving Jews Children of the devil John 8:44
Since unbelievers follow their father's ways this gives the devil full reign over his Children
Which includes indwelling them with his minions however when we become saved we are delivered from that kingdom and now the Holy spirit indwells us and He Guards us and prevents the devil from indwelling us because we are now Children of God not Children of the devil
This is perfectly consistent with 1 John 5:18-19
1 John 5:18-19 BSB
[18] We know that anyone born of God does not keep on sinning; the One who was born of God protects him, and the evil one cannot touch him. [19] We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.
The evil one ( the Devil ) cannot touch us he has lost a certain grip on Us by virtue of us being born again
If a Christian can be indwelt by a demon then 1 John 4:4 Would be meaningless
1 John 4:4 BSB
[4] You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.
If the one in us is greater than the one in the world and in context than it implies the Hply spirit is greater than what's outside and of demons could also be in believers this statement would be meaningless
We have clear scriptures talking about the indwelling Holy Spirit ( See 1 Corinthians 3:16 , 6:19 ,Romans 8:9)
Romans 8:9 clearly indicates to have the Holy spirit is what it means to be a Christian no Holy spirit not saved because the Spirit makes us Children of God
Also scripture only talks about one internal struggle believers face the flesh not demons in us see Galatians 5:16-17
Galatians 5:16-17 BSB
[16] So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. [17] For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want.
Also just a quick note what Jesus said about demons in Matthew 12
Matthew 12:43-44 BSB
[43] When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. [44] Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ On its return, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order.
Notice this text clearly teaches once a demon Goes out ,the person is vacant Ie unoccupied
Which implies the Holy spirit wasn't there when the demon was there . This happens shortly after Jesus casts a demon out of someone. Jesus explains a demon leaves and comes back to an empty or vacant house which again leads us to the conclusion that once you have the Holy spirit you aren't empty or vacant but are indwelt by the third person of the trinity and unless someone can bind the Holy Spirit they can't enter
My main problem with Isaiah's teaching who's to say the demon doesn't come back since Christian's aren't truly protected and this ends up making a weak Holy spirit theology and ultimately could lead to a works based salvation since you have to go back for deliverance if they come back
Scripture says if the Son sets you free you are really Free( John 8:36) “and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom” ( 2 Corinthians 3:17
I hope you guys consider what I'm saying about this issue. It's not a secondary issue; anything regarding being demon possessed isn't a secondary issue that's very much a salvation issue to either truly have the Holy spirit with no demons or you the demons and no Holy The too can't mix.
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I love you guys AND I love Isaiah! This was so wholesome 🙌🏽
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Defending alcohol consumption and yoga as a “christian” is wild…Over all this was a fun video and I enjoyed the dialogue!
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Not what I saw but ok
This was so awesome! Thank you so much!
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Paul, this is the first time you’ve made sense to me. Thank you for standing for sense (and PT)
This video is really good. I hope you guys can do another one soon!
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This was such a great conversation.! It made me curious to dive deeper into the word of God. Manier times when I read the word and find something that really challenges my way of living, it just blows my mind that there is so much wisdom in God's word, it makes me wonder how will I ever be able to comprehend these things with my little human understanding. This conversation was similar, I am more excited to study the word of God. Thank you for this. Thankful for your ministries Paul, Morgan and Isaiah. Much love and blessings your way❤❤❤
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I agree with you Isaiah about Jezebel! 100 percent
Absolutely believe in deliverance!! Love Isaiah Saldivar definitely a man of God!!!!
This is so good!!! I laughed sooooooo much. I’m grateful that we can have healthy conversations on topics we don’t necessarily agree with and still LOVE each other. Great job! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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There are so many ex new agers who speak against yoga. One of them that comes to mind is Steven Bancarz. Yoga poses are body prayers. There’s a difference between stretching (which we should all do) and yoga poses.
I took some dance classes a few years back. The studio offered 30 minutes of stretching after dance. It was yoga. The teacher was telling us to feel the energy around us and bring it inside and made poses. I love stretching, I stretch to be flexible and relieve discomfort/pain and that was NOT only stretches like I was led to believe.
Great first episode!! We loved this you guys
Thanks so much, Jesse! Appreciate you guys❤️❤️
I don’t agree with everything Isaiah has taught but I follow his channel and respect him immensely bc he is authentic and it shows even more in this video. Thank you for highlighting that and finding common ground and love with another believer who has varying convictions- this is a beautiful example. ❤
Well done, P & M ❤
Looking forward to more!
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I’ll admit (please hear me out cuz I want to encourage y’all!) as a long time follower and supporter of you guys, even more so as you guys left the hyper-charismatic community, I was a little hesitant to get excited for this project because to put so many differing beliefs out there and so much debate could, in my mind, only lead to more confusion and disunity. But thank the Lord for the Holy Spirit’s guiding and our free will to discern and decide what the Lord shows and teaches us! I disagree with much of what was shared by Isaiah, but I was beyond blessed by this episode! How refreshing and beautiful to see believers discuss, disagree, but have the same driving passions and desires when you boil it down! To see the friendly debate and to really be forced to test what you believe and what Scripture says. Thank you guys. I am hooked and so excited for the episodes to come!!
This was great! Thank you guys for making this video. I definitely believe what you are called to do is Holy Spirit breathed and I can’t wait to see more videos like this one. ❤🙌✝️
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💖🔥💃 Can't wait!! This is going to be awesome, I know you guys did such a good job!!
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