The Art of Meat Pies - 18th Century Cooking

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  • In this episode we bake a couple of great meat pies, cooked in a dutch oven and in a earthen oven.
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  • @townsends
    @townsends  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Redware Pie Pan perfect for any pie! www.townsends.us/products/redware-p4135-p-987

  • @DarthSmirnoff
    @DarthSmirnoff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1937

    It's interesting seeing videos from before he got hooked on the nutmeg.

    • @Bhatt_Hole
      @Bhatt_Hole 5 ปีที่แล้ว +303

      It's true. A real shame when someone falls victim to nutmeg addiction. Sure, there are 12-step programs, but the failure rate is high. To stop abusing nutmeg, you have to really, truly, and wholly want to break free of it. Having a support group and a qualified and experienced sponsor really helps. JUST SAY NO....TO NUTMEG!

    • @modzombieno.9029
      @modzombieno.9029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What's nutmeg

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      @@modzombieno.9029 Nutmeg is the spice made by grinding the seed of the fragrant nutmeg (Myristica fragrans) tree into powder. The spice has a distinctive pungent fragrance and a warm slightly sweet taste; it is used to flavor many kinds of baked goods, confections, puddings, potatoes, meats, sausages, sauces, vegetables, and such beverages as eggnog.
      The seeds are dried gradually in the sun over a period of six to eight weeks. During this time the nutmeg shrinks away from its hard seed coat until the kernels rattle in their shells when shaken. The shell is then broken with a wooden club and the nutmegs are picked out. Dried nutmegs are grayish brown ovals with furrowed surfaces. The nutmegs are roughly egg-shaped, about 20.5-30 mm (0.81-1.18 in) long and 15-18 mm (0.59-0.71 in) wide, weighing 5-10 g (0.18-0.35 oz) dried.
      Two other species of genus Myristica with different flavors, M. malabarica and M. argentea, are sometimes used to adulterate nutmeg as a spice.

    • @nymsmacgregor7232
      @nymsmacgregor7232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Nutmeg addiction is a hobbit thing, like the ganja they smoke...

    • @flowertrue
      @flowertrue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +179

      Of course a lot of people use nutmeg recreationally, and some people think that's fine. But nutmeg abuse can lead to other spices like cinnamon, clove, and even cardamom and ginger.

  • @writeract2
    @writeract2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    I love this man's complete lack of artifice and polished tv speak - I love that he was fearless enough to be completely, honest, natural and sincere - it was a wonderful real presentation.

    • @Thagesthoughts
      @Thagesthoughts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      He's like if Mr. Rogers liked cooking.

    • @rossambrose8649
      @rossambrose8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There's a reason he's a TH-cam legend!

    • @davestelling
      @davestelling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good comment!

    • @Dagothownsneravar
      @Dagothownsneravar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously. He isn't over the top and theatrical and obnoxious. He is informative and gets straight to the point all while being aesthetic

    • @writeract2
      @writeract2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dagothownsneravar Correct - exactly.

  • @elliottmazur143
    @elliottmazur143 9 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Again, the atmosphere you create here is like truly stepping back in time.

    • @Jacob-yg7lz
      @Jacob-yg7lz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's like if youtube existed in the 1700s.

    • @Bhatt_Hole
      @Bhatt_Hole 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't that sentence actually be more correct without the "truly"?

    • @rosemary4033
      @rosemary4033 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it does😀

  • @PBTophie
    @PBTophie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I really appreciate this guy. I've been watching a LOT of his videos lately, and it really shows the ingenuity and hardiness of the human species. I know he does it for fun, business, and education; but I'm most thankful for the education he provides us. Maybe one day we'll need this information, maybe not. But the education in history is worth more than words.

  • @glenblake3021
    @glenblake3021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Meat pies are unusual in the US, but by far more common than dessert pies in Australia. Very popular fast food type item, and a really good pie is genuinely fantastic.

    • @theBaron0530
      @theBaron0530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I wouldn't say they're unusual. But they're more often called pot pies, and too often represented by the frozen pies from the supermarket.

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same in the UK meat pies are far more common than sweet pies.

    • @karaamundson3964
      @karaamundson3964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also very common in the U.K. (Wales, Ireland, Scotland, England). Pasties, etc.

    • @keithtorgersen9664
      @keithtorgersen9664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @theBaron0350, yep, Marie Callendar popularized chicken pot pies.

    • @sheezy2526
      @sheezy2526 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, also Australia aint a real country like USA

  • @avonleanne
    @avonleanne 9 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    wanted to let you know that I made the pork and apple pie...I didn't have salt pork but I used a very thin cut boneless porkchop and then cut a golden delicious apple and also added a chopped onion. I deviated from the recipe by these things, but did all the rest the same. I pan seared the pork and used the drippings instead of water. Husband LOVED it!!! thank you for the inspiration! On to a plumb pudding! =)

    • @ploppyploppy6554
      @ploppyploppy6554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Do not give your husband a lead pie , Plumb is Latin for lead , plumber hehehehehe

    • @do7735
      @do7735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds amazing!!

    • @jamesbridge6408
      @jamesbridge6408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      avonleanne plum

    • @chemicalcowpoke307
      @chemicalcowpoke307 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bob?

    • @SydneyCarton2085
      @SydneyCarton2085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your husband is blessed!

  • @MrAzrancher
    @MrAzrancher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +718

    I really enjoy these videos. They really help "connect the dots" in the evolution of food storage and preparation through the years by showing the roots of it in America. I grew up in an adobe ranch house in West Texas (the land that time forgot). We did not have electricity until 1966 when the county put a line out to the closest road. My Grandmother used a wood stove until 1970 when we went to propane (but kept the wood stove). In the summer we were up before dawn and she cooked a lot of similar dishes and meat pies to avoid heating up the house, they were quicker than regular dinners and delicious with sliced tomatoes from the garden. She baked breads and biscuits in the earthen oven (Mexican style) and we did lots of cooking outside in the dutch ovens and at cow camp. These are lost arts of our history, thank you for keeping them alive for all to see.

    • @OltrePodcast_Official
      @OltrePodcast_Official 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      MrAzrancher what a wonderful story

    • @OltrePodcast_Official
      @OltrePodcast_Official 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      MrAzrancher thanks for this piece of living history

    • @tdvandy2
      @tdvandy2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you for sharing this.

    • @corn_pop6082
      @corn_pop6082 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Re: " delicious with sliced tomatoes from the garden"
      How many Americans know what a real tomato used to taste like? No one under 50. I went to Mexico in early 1970s and found real tomatoes, gloriously sweet and juicy. All gone now, even in developing countries. The American-developed "traveling tomato," rock hard and devoid of juice and flavor, is apparently standard everywhere. Spent 2015 in Mexico, and in both cities and villages, only "modern" tasteless tomatoes available. No wonder as they export huge amounts to U.S. Just easier for producers to standardize. Now in Thailand, and even here, tomatoes hard and tasteless. Such a shame. I feel so sorry for those who never got to eat one.
      (Hello mangos in Thailand are far sweeter and juicier than Mexican yellows and are "in season" all year round. In Mexico, the yellows are best only 3 months a year. (Of course, imported mangos in. States are only 20% as favorable).

    • @debbieboring3422
      @debbieboring3422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is sad. I miss the taste and smell of ripe tomatoes.

  • @onemercilessming1342
    @onemercilessming1342 7 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    When you're cutting off the excess crust, what do you do with the trimming pieces? My mother and grandmothers used to gather up the trimming pieces, roll them out again into a rectangle, butter the top, sprinkle sugar and cinnamon on top of the butter and then roll them from the longer edge. The roll would be cut into bite-sized morsels and baked. As children, we loved them. Now, as a rapidly aging adult, I don't care much for them, but my granddaughter does. Since two more grands are on the way, I'll probably be making those for the next few years, at least, from the leftover pie dough.

    • @mrdanforth3744
      @mrdanforth3744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      My mother used to make pasties by rolling circles of leftover dough the size of a saucer, putting a spoonful of jam or some apple pieces and sugar in the middle then folding in the sides. These were special treats for the children.

    • @k8fearsnoart
      @k8fearsnoart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I take the leftover bits of pastry, roll them out, and cut them into pretty seasonal things like leaves, (easy as...well, pie! Just two thorough cuts with a paring knife and one shallow curved one!) roll them into thin tendrils for pumpkin vines, and I've also cut out letters for pumpkin pies saying "Happy Thanksgiving!". Then, you can also paint them with beaten egg yolks mixed with food coloring. You can attach the pieces to the pie (not yet baked) with water or more beaten egg yolk, or, bake separately and add to cooked pie with a couple of dots of frosting. They come out looking pretty sharp.

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@k8fearsnoart I never thought of dying egg yolk for painting the decorations before; great idea, can't wait to try it! 👍

    • @wingy200
      @wingy200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My grandmother would take the extra dough and make a simple galette with apples, sugar, and cinnamon.

    • @vintagemeg33
      @vintagemeg33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      All the women in my family made that with excess pie dough! My kids LOVE to eat it and its the only dessert all 7 of us will eat, including my autistic son! 💜

  • @verdatum
    @verdatum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The rewatchability factor on these videos is so very high. I really love that.

    • @astrostar000
      @astrostar000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell me about it! I'm watching it now in 2023!

  • @WrathOfNolla
    @WrathOfNolla 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    You guys have a knack for fantastic lighting. I can practically FEEL the weather just watching you and the sun dapples behind you.

  • @Kaizer559
    @Kaizer559 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2269

    this man reminds me of Bilbo Baggins. great video by the way (:

    • @Drakelx55
      @Drakelx55 8 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      He did emphasize RING when he said "I put a ring of coals on top"

    • @stvampier
      @stvampier 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I thought so to lol

    • @Menuki
      @Menuki 8 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      He also said "pippin"

    • @BVargas78
      @BVargas78 7 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Many aspects of the shire are like the 18th century as well. Their clothes, their way of cooking, their furniture. Whilst Gondor has a more high medieval style.

    • @ga1actic_muffin
      @ga1actic_muffin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I also realized that Marry and Pipin from LoTR... well Pipin was just an apple.

  • @mikewile
    @mikewile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I know it's an older video, but I just discovered it, great video! My family is Scottish decedents came over to Nova Scotia in the 18th century, meat pies were a staple in the wintertime, baked in a wood range oven. Steak and kidney and steak and mushroom were the main features. Can't wait to try these recipes. Thanks for these great videos!

  • @MMBNMalternateaccoun
    @MMBNMalternateaccoun 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2095

    True fact is. Red delicious apples actually used to be delicious until they started getting bred to be bigger and redder now they dont even taste good

    • @spockmcoyissmart961
      @spockmcoyissmart961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      absolutely. I don't even buy them anymore. too much science and too little nature in the plastic looking fruit.

    • @beavis5691
      @beavis5691 8 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      yeah and some of them like my school taste like theres goddamn dust in it. I just eat granny smith apples those are great

    • @projectnemesi5950
      @projectnemesi5950 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Golden Delicious

    • @greatestever184
      @greatestever184 8 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      MMBNMalternateaccoun honeycrisp taste like what red delicious used to.

    • @Bluemilk92
      @Bluemilk92 8 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Too bad they are absurdly expensive.
      **edit** I forgot the second "o" in "too"... 24 years old and still making that mistake >_< just put me out of my misery

  • @EdellK
    @EdellK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just made the chicken pie for my grandparents while telling them tales of the people from the 18th century. They loved it, they want more, thank you for your great channel.

  • @SushiKing123NorskGaming
    @SushiKing123NorskGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can't understand that this video is 8 years already! Still amazing...

  • @TheMinnie419
    @TheMinnie419 8 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    My great grandfather used to eat off his knife. When I was a little girl, he fed me off his table knife. He was a farmer and grew our vegetables.

    • @chamisi
      @chamisi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      so did mine, and I once saw him talking to a lawnmower guy about when he could pick it up from repair and nonchalantly roll a perfect cigarette one handed

    • @count7340
      @count7340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never knew my great grandfather

    • @juspraim5891
      @juspraim5891 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Count
      Same though, I never even met my grandfather.

    • @brodylockwood14
      @brodylockwood14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chamisi It's funny you say that, my father talked about his great grandfather and he said he would roll cigarettes one handed all the time. Must gave been common back then!

    • @theuglybiker
      @theuglybiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I eat my peas with honey
      I've done it all my life
      It makes the peas taste funny
      But it keeps them on the knife!

  • @MSEDzirasa2015
    @MSEDzirasa2015 7 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    TFS...The pies look delicious. Yum-yum :)
    Very interesting that we still use these earthen ovens in Ghana, West Africa...We call them 'Swish Stoves/ovens' , 'Ekpo' or 'fulornoo' ...Before closing the door, we cover the entrance with a soaking wet heavy burlap sack, then fit the door over it.
    Earthen ovens roast the best pork shoulder, whole pigs and bake the best breads, cakes and pies.

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've seen people begin to install ovens like this in their backyards recently.

    • @nathanielthompson7967
      @nathanielthompson7967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg I wanna try food made in an earthen over sooooo much!

    • @Fickji
      @Fickji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would be a really cool video to see.

    • @sam7r4833
      @sam7r4833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We got them in Morocco to in country side , i agree they make the best baked goodies

  • @suprqt
    @suprqt 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1078

    OUR PASSENGER PIGEONS WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN!

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    2:24,
    "How did you make the crust so fizzy?"
    "The secret is live hornets! We smush them right into the dough!"

  • @MasonTorrey
    @MasonTorrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    That wasp was so interested in learning the recipe.

  • @essemsween818
    @essemsween818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    In the UK we still have an Apple called a Cox's Orange Pippin. It's a small to medium sized Apple with a, when ripe quite thick, rough skin for an eating Apple, not the thin & shiny skin of hybrids. Half Red half a yellowish green, it's crisp, juicy and fabulous. In season it's my favourite Apple. Pink Lady is what I go for the rest of the year.

    • @nelzelpher2088
      @nelzelpher2088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Essem Sween I'll pay to get some of those apples, please send them all to me.

    • @augustuswilhelm3161
      @augustuswilhelm3161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roald Dahl mentions the Orange Pippin in his book called "boy". Very interesting to know more about it.

    • @MariusRiley
      @MariusRiley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      : Pink Lady apples are tops, absolutely.

    • @Eireann.
      @Eireann. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting

  • @ColTravis
    @ColTravis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    With the pork pie you could substitute beer for the water and add a layer of sauerkraut. I make a East Prussian sauerkraut dish that would be perfect for a pork pie filling.

  • @frog8220
    @frog8220 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your videos hold up so well. This if from five years ago, and yet its as amazing as last weeks videos. Shows that you really know what you're doing, thank you for making the videos.

  • @elyb4097
    @elyb4097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up eating meat pies until my mother had to go to work, then I carried on when I was a stay at home mom. Those food memories are some of the sweetest because it's all about making people happy and enjoying the basic pleasures in life. I'm a great granny now and haven't made one in a while.

  • @scttiedsntknow
    @scttiedsntknow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its amazing how simple yet hearty the food is.

  • @janedoe7482
    @janedoe7482 8 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    He's a hobbit. Living in the shire.

    • @bettycorriher4520
      @bettycorriher4520 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      jane doe your a butt head pull it out and grow up the man's trying to help people don't like his post go away we love it.

    • @TheWonkster
      @TheWonkster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Betty Corriher what on earth are you going on about? Not a single bit of that comment was negative or insulting in any way.

    • @bettycorriher4520
      @bettycorriher4520 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mr. Wonky couldn't tell you now evidently I though someone was intentionally being mean to him he's very nice guy and people are mean to nice guys on here but may have been meant for another post.sorry.

    • @thetacountry4487
      @thetacountry4487 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mr. Wonky what are you an idiot?

    • @thetacountry4487
      @thetacountry4487 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Betty Corriher don’t apologize to that idiot, you were right.

  • @goreesha
    @goreesha 8 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    These videos are so fascinating.

    • @keandric2765
      @keandric2765 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree 200% :D

    • @sim61642
      @sim61642 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sam and Bethy's Adventures yeah its like a game of thrones spinoff, only more interesting.

    • @MrTValleyguy
      @MrTValleyguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. I'm not even any kind of foodie but I find this stuff fascinating.

  • @cslm3r
    @cslm3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really such a pleasure to see all of these episodes. Thank you for taking the time to do such a great job bringing history to life.

  • @EggShen905
    @EggShen905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I made the pork pie recipe in a conventional oven at 350 for about 20 minutes. Used boneless pork (not bacon) that I salted myself before boiling (or you can just dump salt into the water). Fuji and Gala apples work well and don't turn to sauce; also added honey and brown sugar to the mix. Thanks so much for turning me onto the recipe! This is our family's new favorite pie.

  • @Seki1987
    @Seki1987 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow, Mr. Townsend looked amazing. His skin was so much better before his chronic nutmeg addiction.

  • @AaronTsuii
    @AaronTsuii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "you wanna look for a jonathon, winesap apple"
    *I have never heard of either of those apples in my entire existence and time on this earth*

    • @therealberlinsylvie
      @therealberlinsylvie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Aaron, Aaron... Aaron, you haven’t lived. Try locating a farmers market in the countryside some time in Autumn. I love apples, especially the old heritage varieties.

    • @signalfire6
      @signalfire6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      New York State or Washington State.

    • @acs197
      @acs197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are excellent apples.

    • @stoojinator
      @stoojinator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You need to be American to have heard of them. We don't have them in Australia either. We use Granny Smiths as they are juicy and tart. Perfect accompaniment for pork.

    • @barbaramurphy5606
      @barbaramurphy5606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stoojinator Ask around in Stanthorpe, Qld. Sure to find plenty. Try phoning one of the bigger roadside stalls/shops, they will head you in the right direction. Good luck/fortune.

  • @douglasswain429
    @douglasswain429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I just found your you tube videos I love them I lived off grid 14 years and am enjoying learning the old ways the only technology I have is my phone I'll enjoy watching your videos it's knowledge not lost thank you

  • @crossbowsniper
    @crossbowsniper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kind sir...I know you will most likely NEVER see this comment as old as this video is. My grandmother recently had hernia surgery... today exactly. Her stomach was bothering her from anesthesia, but she was hungry. I fired up a propane version of the earth stove, and cooked her one of these meat pies.... and myself, as I hadn't eaten in 20 hours while caring for her. It hit the spot with her, and did not make her sick to her stomach, and I'm sure was healthier than store bought crap! I've bought your products and followed this channel a long time as a SASS shooter. This here hit the spot. PLEASE continue these videos and know that as my grandmother drifted off after one of the culinary confections, that she said she was content and to thank you as well. May you and your family be blessed eternally in heaven and richly in this life.

  • @slocad11
    @slocad11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A thousand thanks to you and your sons for giving us these old recipes. Here I am in Belarus, an American ex-pat, making baked beans, although on the stove top in my flat! The kitchen smells great already.

  • @spoonyg132
    @spoonyg132 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The music is an arrangement of "O'keefe's Slide"
    Enjoy.

    • @danyheatley4153
      @danyheatley4153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Costanza I can always count on you

    • @Iisdabest889
      @Iisdabest889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it isn't. It's called "Maid behind the bar".

    • @andyrenshaw9148
      @andyrenshaw9148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Iisdabest889 there are three tunes, first one at the starts is O'Keefes, Maid behind the bar then the hornpipe jacky tar :)

    • @angles7931
      @angles7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @angles7931
      @angles7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      V

  • @CarlosIsDown
    @CarlosIsDown 8 ปีที่แล้ว +500

    Bee wants in on that pie

    • @Rickuo
      @Rickuo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      That was a wasp, not a bee.

    • @HeavymetalHylian
      @HeavymetalHylian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      shoo wasp pie

    • @koggyb
      @koggyb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks HoneyedHylian!

    • @bcnicholas123
      @bcnicholas123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HoneyedHylian delicious

    • @forge20
      @forge20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Rickuo That was a hornet, not a wasp.

  • @dbsommers1
    @dbsommers1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He's definitely evolved his style over time. Interesting to see this early work.

  • @angeldunbar9644
    @angeldunbar9644 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! I can appreciate the evolution of cooking methods and tools used to prepare meals!😊

  • @tutekohe1361
    @tutekohe1361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The best tasting apples are the old breeds that can often be very difficult to find today, such as Russets which are green with little patches of 'fur' on them. The flavour is very intense and are not overly sweet.

  • @archonsouthpaw8690
    @archonsouthpaw8690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    wtf I didn't know Macintosh was a type of apple so that explains it

  • @debrabrooks6138
    @debrabrooks6138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks very delicious! I love your teachings and the recipes! I had the privilege of growing for the most on a Dutch Mennonite farm in a foster home. My foster mom Anne sure could cook! She made pigeon potpie that was so delicious! I have got to try your meat pies! Thanks so much for teaching and sharing the with everyone!☺♥

  • @animal16365
    @animal16365 8 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    Anyone else hungry for a meat pie?

    • @davidrose2302
      @davidrose2302 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely, feel a tamale pie coming on!

    • @viki6857
      @viki6857 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad when u r a a vegan ... ahhhhh

    • @johnrobia5460
      @johnrobia5460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Shut up viki no one cares you're a vegan.

    • @joydeeppaul9761
      @joydeeppaul9761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      animal16365 Yeah absolutely hungry for the meat pie.

    • @EffectPlaceboThe
      @EffectPlaceboThe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have all the time

  • @shannonwittman950
    @shannonwittman950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bee landing on anything you are prepping or cooking is the ultimate compliment from nature ...

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to live in a very small town(500) with a grain elevator. The local kids were encouraged to dispatch the pigeons that populated said grain bins with our Red Rider BB guns and the like. If we(and dads) cleaned them our mom's would let us eat them, usually oven cooked but I bet they would have been better in a pie.
    I am pulled back to that time when I watch your family friendly show. It is a modern world now and your show helps use learn how we stayed not only alive and fed our families and the community, often others that happened by as well.
    Bless you and you crew for transmitting this knowledge in an entertaining way.

  • @Naam_name
    @Naam_name 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh my God I'm so involved with the video unconsciously I'm shushing the fly that flying on pie. 🤣

  • @aidansilvia2663
    @aidansilvia2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The bee trying to eat the pie really sells the “yee olde” vibes.

  • @howardfortyfive9676
    @howardfortyfive9676 8 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    You're killing me here. Ain't had a thing to eat in 11 hours! Been watching your 18th century cooking channel over an hour now and....

    • @modzombieno.9029
      @modzombieno.9029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You made the pie?

    • @supernice8887
      @supernice8887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@modzombieno.9029 nah i think he starved ........ RIP

    • @trespire
      @trespire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you eaten yet ?

    • @4WDBearAus
      @4WDBearAus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Had any food yet?

    • @world4truth
      @world4truth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You still kicken in 2019?

  • @heartsaliveart
    @heartsaliveart 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those types look so good! Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @joshtaylor731
    @joshtaylor731 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos just make me smile. Plain and simple.

  • @jrreikleviandaya3045
    @jrreikleviandaya3045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    bro watching this makes me feel like a hobbit, making me hungry already. i cant explain this feeling i just feel so heart warmed

  • @FavineMoore
    @FavineMoore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Everytime I question why I follow this channel, he posts a video like this, and I'm all about this.
    Those pies, look great.

    • @mrig.3521
      @mrig.3521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was posted 8 years ago lol

  • @mikedeman5351
    @mikedeman5351 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Someone's probably asked before - the music to this video sounds like traditional Irish music, may I ask what it is called?By the way, in Britain and Ireland, the word 'Pippin' denotes a 'family' of apple types such as Cox's Pippin or Sturmer Pippin.

  • @aclaylambisabirdman6324
    @aclaylambisabirdman6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the joy hadn’t shown through yet but was peaking just around the corner, love it, best channel on TH-cam in this here trying times.

  • @vegetasbulge
    @vegetasbulge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos make me forget about the world. I truly enjoy your content.

  • @GregAliano
    @GregAliano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just like my great great great great-
    *2 years later*
    great great great grandma used to make.

  • @Nexis1701
    @Nexis1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:12 i love how he jumps into the picture :D

  • @spoffproduction
    @spoffproduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You look like Pippin Took cooking show, and I enjoy every scene. It just looks so good and fun to make. Keep up the good work!

  • @VIPER03100
    @VIPER03100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir for another perfect cooking recepie. And a big thanks for keeping history alive.

  • @TheGrowlingAraknid
    @TheGrowlingAraknid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your authenticity is uncanny! Feels like yesterday my husband showed me your videos. So many great recipes and so many great memories. Thanks for being so dedicated to the hobby and teaching us so much over the years Townsend! Always lookin forward to your videos 😎👍🏿🇺🇸

  • @DelectableDays
    @DelectableDays 8 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Why didn't American food culture retain any of these recipes into the modern era? It's a shame that I wasn't brought up eating pies like this..

    • @spockmcoyissmart961
      @spockmcoyissmart961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      when women have had to go to work due to confiscatory taxes, and 2 pay checks needed, nobody has time to prepare this type of meal, fast/prepared food is what is wanted to nuke in 5 minutes and give to people who don't even eat together as they are all off in their little rooms with electronic gadgets. When I first started dating the girl I'm with now and had her over for a scratch dinner, she said how 'nobody cooks like this anymore'.........as she happily ate the meal and drank wine. Home made bread with garlic/cheese toasted, linguine/clams, salad of mixed greens/veggies/fruits.....with a light raspberry vinaigrette... it is sad so much food history has been lost. Now where are those pepperoni HotPockets....

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Don't be dissin dem pepperoni hotpockets none. Those Pepperoni Hotpockets are part of our modern food history.

    • @corn_pop6082
      @corn_pop6082 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I feel sorry for you, George. If not available where you live, travel to parts of U,.S. that still have regular food, or better yet, to other countries. "Pepperoni hot pockets?" I nearly died trying them.

    • @gmoo84
      @gmoo84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Come to New Zealand! Pies (meat) are an absolute staple here haha. Usually an individual size for a meal on the go.

    • @Ritde77
      @Ritde77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      During the great depression they put out a lot of simple, filling but nasty tasting food recipes. They were ment to keep people fed with as little money and food as possible. A decade of cheap filling food followed by a world war were women HAD to work to keep the factories running led to an entire generation that either couldn't cook or was used to eating crap. We last the art and then moved to pour out of the can and easy food because so few people knew any other way. The problem has gotten worse over the generations has more families have both people working and frequently more than one job.

  • @bryernlow9342
    @bryernlow9342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't know why this turned up in my recommended videos, but I'm sure glad it did. It's so wholesome. 10 minutes of my life well spent.

  • @johnlambert8929
    @johnlambert8929 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    as always the food you produce looks wonderful..and thank you for preserving our history! #1 fan

  • @js4540
    @js4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! Thank you so much for your hard work, as always love your videos!

  • @DalomarGrimm
    @DalomarGrimm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad to see culinary history in action. Your videos always inspire!

  • @oldman2477
    @oldman2477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Him: "As you can see, we sliced up our Pippin for our meat pie..."
    Me: *A Grotesque Dismembered Hobbit*

    • @BackyardRambo
      @BackyardRambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pippin was annoying af anyway! just sayin'...

  • @PumpkinMozie
    @PumpkinMozie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Him: “we’ve just sliced up our pippin-“
    Me, a LotR fan: “you did WHAT?”

  • @morganblackpowder1724
    @morganblackpowder1724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Me in 2012: Oh this looks good! I should make it for dinner tonight.
    Me in 2020: I'M FINALLY MAKING THESE TONIGHT!!!

  • @Nyckname
    @Nyckname 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a joy to watch someone who loves their job.

  • @lindareiter6575
    @lindareiter6575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this guy! Thank you so much for your videos, its nice cooking something different.

  • @uncledaydays
    @uncledaydays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I never cooked in Skyrim before.
    But this time? I will.

    • @LegionarioPersa
      @LegionarioPersa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do it, couple of cabbage stews can save your life

    • @MegaInsaneMC
      @MegaInsaneMC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LegionarioPersa but my 800 cheese wheels...

    • @TheRangaTanGaming
      @TheRangaTanGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MegaInsaneMC then make fondue. Your spell casting will thank you.

  • @PeteZa92
    @PeteZa92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    3:17 "What you don't want is a red delicious apple."
    Let's just stop there. You just don't want these in general .....bleh

    • @nunyabizness199
      @nunyabizness199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont know where you folks are getting yours, but they are fine here in Oregon.

  • @UlfAhlborg
    @UlfAhlborg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Are meat pies really so uncommon in America? In the UK and here in Newfoundland they're eaten everywhere by everyone. Great video.

    • @michellehiemstra3041
      @michellehiemstra3041 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Generally they are pretty uncommon here. We tend to like our steaks, pieces and so forth.

    • @keandric2765
      @keandric2765 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah they are. Typically the only pie we eat is dessert pie. You pretty much only see meat pies at Irish pubs / restaurants, a specialty restaurant, unless you know someone who makes them

    • @UlfAhlborg
      @UlfAhlborg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Interesting! It's popular here to have pie and chips, as in, fries and a beef pie. Good combo, I recommend it (if you're not dieting) haha. We also eat seal pie here. Made from actual seal. Haha.

    • @RachelSchell
      @RachelSchell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have eaten meat pies since I was a kid when my mom made them for us and I'm American. I wouldn't say they are wildly popular though. I personally love them especially the ones with gravy!

    • @UberMcWinsauce
      @UberMcWinsauce 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love meat pies, but they're not too common over here

  • @Jamerton1
    @Jamerton1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every one of your videos is so well done and informative. I'm always starving after I watch too! Thanks Townsends!

  • @tonydrago3758
    @tonydrago3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love your videos, as a history buff I love to try things from the far past , thank you so much

  • @flips220
    @flips220 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Meat pies need to come back in a big way. Most Americans nowadays would be grossed out by the thought of a meat pie, but then you have to remind them that there are things like chicken pot pies still around, then suddenly it's "ohh yeah, I guess that isn't such a bad idea."

    • @meganwilliams2962
      @meganwilliams2962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Meat pies are a staple in Australia especially in Winter at the Footy
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four%27N_Twenty_meat_pie
      pattiesfoods.com.au/four-n-twenty
      Local bakeries also have their own pies.

    • @ryanperryjasper
      @ryanperryjasper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HERESY! Mrs Mac's or nothing!!

    • @SchoolRumble4ever22
      @SchoolRumble4ever22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      flips220 I've never met an American opposed to a meat pie (or a meat anything foe that matter). It's evident you don't live here...

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meat Pies are super delish! I've never seen someone turn down a meat pie because of its contents. People have turned down my meat pies because they are either vegan or else because they didn't like how much fat was in it.

    • @mattiec3320
      @mattiec3320 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude have you been to louisiana? Heres a list of things I've been served:
      Racoon
      rabbit
      Alligator
      Squirrel
      Possum
      Deer
      All of these things just happen to be slower then the breaks were quick.

  • @leyalaatasto9096
    @leyalaatasto9096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why don't we call apples "pippins" anymore that's such a cute name ;;

    • @ksciaa0103
      @ksciaa0103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, with The Lord of the Rings present, I'd imagine taking a bite out of a hobbit were we to start calling them "pippins" again. lol

    • @johnborges5938
      @johnborges5938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Pippin" is not a generic term for apples; it's a particular group of apple varieties, many of which happen to be good for cooking. Hard to find in the US these days.

    • @angiearmstrong9491
      @angiearmstrong9491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love videos like these. Used to hear stories about the foods. But like others said, People just didn't have time anymore to cook like that. My grandson called apples "pops".

  • @manramen
    @manramen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "and as it is a pigeon pie i shall just add.... some feet." :P

  • @jmille711
    @jmille711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That bee wanted a little bite of apple pie and Jon said naw way!

  • @cynthiabroyles4890
    @cynthiabroyles4890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That did it. I've subscribed. Been watching you for two weeks maybe? I have four channels already plus an offline life, so a little hesitant but these simple recipes look so good, and Jon you are so down to earth and personable, I want to support you and all of the ppl who bring me your tutorials. Many are from years ago, but the 1800's haven't changed much in the last ten. Thanks

  • @DaSpooge
    @DaSpooge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now I really want to go make some meat pies out in the woods. Awesome video!

  • @GrillMasterXBBQ
    @GrillMasterXBBQ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I will gut you like a Cornish game hen."

    • @windowsxseven
      @windowsxseven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      degroot keep reenactment intensifies

  • @user_____M
    @user_____M 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *pie is ready to burn* "Woo! *starts worrying* Looks just about perfect!"

  • @rht100
    @rht100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another well produced, utterly charming video. You do an amazing job of bringing 18th century cooking to life. Well done!

  • @MyRickynOlivia
    @MyRickynOlivia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Maine bakery's will sell a small pork pie for almost $20 a pie. They are a huge popular item for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I have always made mine since I was younger from my great grandmother's recipe. They are so good. People will eat it with different condiments. I love beef gravy on mine.

  • @kamma44
    @kamma44 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had not known the history, or even heard, of the passenger pigeon.
    How very interesting.

    • @Saffrone221
      @Saffrone221 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They use them to send messages from afar. 2nd they are so common that they are more abundant than chicken. I guess due to lack of preservatives, they hunt half a dozen of them per family ration. Geez probably 100 of them a day for a village, 1000 for weeks. No wonder.

    • @josephpotter5766
      @josephpotter5766 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're mistaking messenger pigeons for the passenger pigeon. The passenger was never used for messaged, instead they were hunted by the million on an industrial scale with punt guns, a single hunter would often bring in five to twenty thousand of them in a single day's hunting (often bagging over two hundred per shot with what was basically a small naval cannon loaded with birdshot)

    • @LuvzToLol21
      @LuvzToLol21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were hunted to extinction

  • @theyexpectsomeone
    @theyexpectsomeone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For a 7-year-old video, this is some great quality.

  • @jolene1468
    @jolene1468 9 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    HOW COULD THEY EAT A PIGEON PIE?!?!? It's EATING MY KIND

    • @townsends
      @townsends  9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      My Special Pets Oh, and pigeons are only the start, it seems if it had feathers in the 18th century it was fair game for the table. Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @EffectPlaceboThe
      @EffectPlaceboThe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@townsends pillows?
      ;p (if I don't laugh, I cry) you'd be suprised how much if the cooking you show was pretty close to how things were done in poor rural Michigan until after the depression. (preserving meet under a layer of fat etc etc)

    • @penelopepigeon8505
      @penelopepigeon8505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's a little elemental carbon amongst feathered friends? 🔥🐥🔥 😋

    • @steinfliege9912
      @steinfliege9912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EffectPlaceboThe wooow i laughed. Thank you

  • @ericawright411
    @ericawright411 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for all the videos. I will be trying my hand at both pies.

  • @michaelpriest6242
    @michaelpriest6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Townsend eats like a king. And, because he prepares the food himself, he deserves it.

  • @CarterWHern
    @CarterWHern 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    how did you get the pie out of the dutch oven?

  • @tommiturmiola3682
    @tommiturmiola3682 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video reminded me of a Finnish food called "Kalakukko". Although the name suggests that it contains fish the variation containing pork and potatoes is also common. And since this type of food is known to be older than potato in Europe i suspect that Rutabaga would be more traditional filling. Also, "kalakukko" was used as a travel food as it stays long if left unopened. AFAIK these things were sold for trading ships but i don't think these stay as long as dried bread.

    • @townsends
      @townsends  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, I will have to look that one up. Thanks!

    • @tommiturmiola3682
      @tommiturmiola3682 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Embarrassingly i forgot to mention that the whole thing is made of rye flour. Kind of important detail...

    • @davidsilva-kn9kw
      @davidsilva-kn9kw 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommi Turmiola vex

    • @1mikew1
      @1mikew1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommi Turmiol

  • @ThePayola123
    @ThePayola123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    OMG...This is Hobbit's Food.

    • @sathaithai1349
      @sathaithai1349 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Payhole Everdouche Haha It kinda looks like it!

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Keep the leftovers for second breakfast!

    • @josephstalin4143
      @josephstalin4143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No wonder the apple are called pippins

  • @stephengardiner9867
    @stephengardiner9867 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Passenger Pigeons were hugely numerous in parts of Canada as well. The Pigeon River which flows near where I live in Peterborough, Ontario was named after these birds . The bird that most people think of when they hear the word "pigeon" is actually the Rock Dove (or flying rat, if you live in the city). It is entirely too bad that a few did not survive until the suburbs began taking over the old farmlands and they were no longer so consistently on the menu or simply targets for bored hunters. Who ever would have dreamed, even just 40 years ago, that Wild Turkeys would return in the numbers that they have?

  • @donnaharris7553
    @donnaharris7553 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the recipes and love love the music. Thank you.

  • @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ
    @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Just made two small pork/apple pies in the 7" pie tins I bought from you. Not bad at all, though next time I would add something more flavourful to it...I've added some nutmeg (no 18th century food is complete without it!) but didn't help. I would either make it more sweet next time, adding to the apple side (maybe a spoon of honey and some herbs) or help the meat side instead (worcester, mustard?). Also, next time I might try to prepair the meat differently, boiled pork is kind of plain...maybe roast in on a pan with onion and paprika would help.
    Anyway, enjoy your videos and if I may suggest, how about making couple period recipes other than English/American? How about French, Irish, Dutch, German, Czech, Austrian...? You would find people from all these nations in the colonies as well.

    • @erindunlap1568
      @erindunlap1568 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you thought of using apple butter? You could replace the butter and some of the water with that.

    • @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ
      @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never heard of apple butter, but I'm certainly not a cook, just enjoying the history. Thanks for the idea.

    • @NakedExpat
      @NakedExpat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Petr L. SAGE + ONION addition will compliment this pie. Try it - you'll thank me later.... I'm English. We make these goooood. Enjoy.x

    • @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ
      @PetrLCustomHistoryCZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I'll give it a try!

    • @jebsmith323
      @jebsmith323 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apple butter is made from apples, peeled and cooked slowly over low heat or flame. Stir to keep the sugars from scorching. Add very little water. Use a soft apple like a macintosh or delicious. You can add a dab of butter, but not necessary. You have to cook past the applesauce stage and let the sauce turn brown. Maybe that's caramelizing. I don't know. But apple butter will be sweet, slightly brown sauce. Eat on bread, use in baked goods. I never thought to put it in stew or pot roast, but I can see how that would be good.

  • @DudeSoWin
    @DudeSoWin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You sure can say that again, "red delicious" apples are awful!

  • @jamestown8398
    @jamestown8398 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I wish passenger pidgins weren't extinct.

    • @Bayan1905
      @Bayan1905 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you live in a place where dove hunting is legal, they're very much the same. Other things like grouse would work too.

    • @ewellford
      @ewellford 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You could also use quail or squab. Cornish Game Hens are readily available in most supermarkets, but you should know that they are neither from Cornwall nor game birds, just cleverly marketed juvenile chickens.

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      Kentucky Fried Passenger Pigeon...it's finger lickin' good!

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