I have to say, I'm surprised to see so many people here commenting in support of the male in this scene. On twitter, I'm usually the only one (regarding this issue in general). What I notice about this scene is that you can clearly see the trust leave the room in Adam's eyes & his body language. You see his disgust with her & being ashamed of himself for not realizing sooner what kind of person she is (a terrible one).
There’s a lot more pro life people than you might think. It’s just been made the socially unacceptable position by mainstream culture, so pro choice people are less vocal online.
That's because it was twitter and most accounts owned by people who think for themselves were banned. It's a lot more balanced now, like literally half and half left vs right.
Oh, no - of course they don't. Do you know the creators of this show? They 100% wouldn't see it his way. It's completely about how the woman feels, and that the lump of cells is dead. That's all that matters.
Because she is a psychopath. I'm a woman, also pro-choice but the way she just informs her boyfriend this way and decided to have the abortion without even telling him as the father, is beyond fucked up.
@@IBeMelissano. The fact she did it all means she's a psychopath. To think her own actions shouldn't have consequence and that someone else should pay the ultimate price.
I got the impression she told him to hurt him or to get a reaction. If she wasn’t going to give him any input or knowledge at all there was no point to telling him after the fact. Except to hurt him for some reason.
i have meet people like her. thank god, they are few but they exist. i think she was written as an actual character that believed that abortions are completly normal and that only intolerants dont accept them. the vibe that im getting is that she feels like she thinks he is special and thats why she openly talks about it because she thinks he will accept it and she wants someone she can talk about it. edit. i have never seen this series, so im basing this opinion on just this short clip.
She was literally in a weird relationship emotional freak fest with her ex throughout this she isn’t a good person and doesn’t treat Adam like a partner at all
Guys the whole point of this scene is to illustrate that she never ever cared about Adam’s feelings whatsoever. She was more self absorbed than Hannah. Media literacy is dead
@@tammytan2635 I can tell it pushes your buttons for people to comment on here about how barbaric the character's actions are. Good. The tide is turning, Tammy. People are waking up every day.
Psycho. End of story. If you're not going to so much involve him in any decision-making process or tell him beforehand then why on earth tell him after...unless cruelty is just her thing.
@@MyAccountForCommenting she could have just told him that she's not in the mood. She already deceived him. No possible reason to come clean after the fact.
Adam Driver's character in this scene seems less angry that she got an abortion and more angry that she went behind his back to do it and didn't even have the decency to tell him about her decision to do so first
Reading all these comments bring me so much relief. I’m 100% pro choice, but I thought I was the only one to think she was treating going to get an abortion like she made a quick run to the grocery store. So callous and I never liked her character, haha. Having a discussion with him about it beforehand would have been the respectful thing to do.
Eh, sometimes an abortion isn’t a big deal. Sometimes it’s literally just a medical decision and you move on. What IS thoughtless was dropping it on him and assuming he wouldn’t be bothered about it without discussing it with him first. Couples need to be having those discussions of “what happens if x happens” well in advance, and that goes for both sides. It just never occurred to him to have it because men have the privilege of not having to think of pregnancy as anything but an abstract.
Anyone saying "good on her" "he over reacted" are you all fucked in the head? Its a show i understand, but to defend someone who killed a child without telling the father is probably one of the worst things you can do in a relationship in my opinion. "Her body her choice" you realise it takes 2 people to create and raise a child? If women want full choice on deciding to have the baby, men should have full choice on paying child support or not
@@Jess-yo9rt It's not the directors, it's the writer, who was Lena Dunham, and I'm sure she did. She was very mindful of how she wrote all the characters.
@@stefs7141 True Autistic people aren't functioning in the world. They're constantly overstimulated, so they can't handle the everyday world, especially with its chaotic noises. And they need ritual in order to function day to day. They also don't make eye contact, because it's too much to have to focus on faces while listening to voices at the same time. And they have a flat, monotone affect with their speaking....IF they're even speaking at all. Many don't. That's what true Autism is. It's people who, as adults, are often still living with their families or even in mental facilities, because they can't function in the world. Unfortunately too many people nowadays are overusing the term and no longer understand what the condition truly involves.
"So you wanted a baby" no, he HAD a baby. He didn't want you murdering it and then talking about it with the same level of concern as someone discussing the weather.
I get the sentiment but it isn't accurate. In the period where abortion is done (up untill 22 weeks where I'm from) the fetus isn't fully developed. The brain is still in progress. The baby would not make it after a c-section and intensive care. So yes the fetus is alive (the cells it's made of) but it's not a person yet. An abortion is more similar to amputating a limb or removing an organ, then to homicide.
@@fluffylittleclouds1 It is not an extension or a body part of the mother once it has its own dna and homeostasis, and that happens at conception. It is quite literally another human being biologically, even if it is smaller and less developed than you or I. Making personhood contingent on having the right level of development (though not specifying when that begins) is a terrible standard for protecting human rights.
When he asked “was it mine?” I’d personally rather be told no.. so that atleast when I leave, the thought I had a potential son or daughter’s life end before it started isn’t with me.
The fact her character acted like he was upset over spilt milk. Nah, even spilt milk would be a waste, she treated it less than that. Like he was throwing an illogical hissy fit.
Disgusting, when I got pregnant with my daughter it was very hard. I was 80% for abortion. Until I saw my little gummy bear baby. I knew then she was mine and I loved her and I couldn’t allow anything to happen to my baby. She’s 13 now
What’s with all the pro-life people in here? I had an abortion and it had no effect on me whatsoever, I was happy to get it over with and not have the burden of a child.
He has every right to be angry. It's very disturbing how unphased she is by her abortion. Two are involved in a pregnancy! I hope this scene makes people think- it speaks for itself.
@@dreal500the only instance in which there were not two people involved in the creation of a pregnancy was the Virgin Mary…and even then, there was a second individual who was technically involved..
Honestly, I agree. Without the female vote, like every state is red. Even as a sane and non-sociopathic woman who fears God and votes according to God's design and not emotional manipulation.... We fall for too much.
Well it was family that vote counted for. One per family. The head of the household. Most of the time it was men. What they don’t tell you is some women voted lol.
Yeah it's actually kinda painful to see her in this role and act so apathetic towards someone who loves her very much and has considered a future with that person with the possibility of children. I dating a girl who treated me so apathetically when mentioning that she was sleeping this other people. The feeling of betrayal one feels in an emotional dynamic like this scene is only second to violent acts. Excruciating.
For most guys the moment they get told "I'm pregnant" "I had an abortion/misarrange" something clicks in their brain. From that moment on their entire worldview is changed. This scene weather intended to or not shows the range of emotions men can go through when presented with this. Adam Drivers acting is so good you can see the newfound love for a being he helped create and the admiration for his girlfriend get ripped away as he processes the situation. An entirely new life path gone in an instant. Reduced to "What if".
Proud of everyone here supporting Driver's character. What a horrific thing to do, killing a baby. And the callousness from the woman is enough to inspire despair of all sense of feminine/maternal decency.
Imagine making this shown and having the nerve to actually think the blond is in the right here. This is why the culture is shifting and we will have child murder and sacrifice abolished like slavery
Dude, the same thing happened to a friend of mine. I was at his house watching a Knicks game with him. His wife walks in and he asks her where she’s been. And she said nonchalant I got an abortion today… at first we both laughed. Then he asked are you serious? And both went to the kitchen… then I heard him yelling how could do this to our child. What is wrong with you? It’s our baby… I walked to the kitchen to tell I’m leaving when I heard her whisper it’s no big deal. I will never forget his face expression. He’s eyes just watered up. Oh man, I told him I’m sorry and that I was leaving. He just simply nodded him head. I looked over his ex wife and her face. The way she rolled her eyes at him when he started crying… when got home, I just hugged my wife and kids. I thanked my wife for not being a crazy murderius bitch. And kissed and hugged my kids extra hard that night. I love my family and can’t believe that there are people willing to kill a child let alone their own child.
This clip, if nothing else, shows the negative consequences of extreme feminism. Its one thing to believe that abortion is a womans right and another thing entirely to tell women en masse that abortion is "no big deal". Im prolife, but i know for most women who go through with an abortion, its a gut wrenching decision, often with emotional fallout that can last months or years. In their effort to normalize abortion, extreme feminists have promoted the idea that abortion is a casual thing that women should feel free to do, no questions asked, and without any grief or mixed feelings. This discounts the reality of the experience for millions of women everywhere.
Not that I've been in this situation, but had an ex girlfriend tell me in the almost exact way that she'd had an abortion. So cold, expressionless and matter of fact way, it just made my soul shiver. This video is actors telling a story and a script, but there's women out there that are just as bad and worse.
I met a few women in university that had multiple anortions & talked about it nonchalantly like this. Honestly made me sick to my stomach & not surprisingly, non of them are married or in relationships. It’s impossible to feel love from someone who has no emotion.
My ex did that to me I was voiceless and shut down by her and her family. If women can abort then men have every right to relinquish financial responsibilities.
Saw this scene on my feed, then googled it and clicked a tiktok link . Could only see a couple of comments cos I don't have the app but they were saying "she handled this perfectly" and how toxic Adams character is. It's sickening. Even as an atheist non-american, if a woman spoke to me like this I'd be heartbroken and she'd be single that minute
@@tessm8783 You're about seven or eight years out of date with that. I can't wait to hear you geezers prattle on about our newfangled "Beatles" and other dumb nonsense that makes you feel better about aging into obscurity
Oh God I wouldn't wish this on any man. She murdered his kid. And she sees nothing wrong with it. That's the absolutely terrifying part. Had she possessed some sort of conscience about it, it mightve been a different conversation they would've had...but nah. In his head, he was a father for a brief moment, and she took it away from him. This was a very sickening scene. I know for a fact that once the full gravity of her actions hits her one day, it'll ruin her for the rest of her life.
Probably would have been better, because she directly created a trauma in his life by saying it. Like it or not, it is a mans child you are inherently terminating. The “her body, her choice” argument is a fallacy.
I know this is just a film. But I saw few people in my life that said something they thought normal but actually horrifying on the ears of other people. Their reaction when we called out how horrible the things they said, they just... With a surprised pikachu face asked more or less "did I say something wrong here?" I don't know if they are that oblivious or that they are from the beginning a bunch of bonafide sociopaths, but they didn't know if they uttered something horrid like saying today's weather. People like the girl on this vid exist
I’m pretty impressed with the comment section here. The way she so was so cavalier about delivering the news is obscene. Stone cold woman. This is not some throw away statement like, “Oh by the way, I drank the last soda in the fridge and I know you were saving it for yourself. I’m sorry, my bad.” No, she aborted his baby and didn’t even tell him till it was too late
I don’t think y’all know how babies are made. You see it’s half hers and half his. He has every FUCKING RIGHT to know. And her decision to abort then tell him is: 1. Irresponsible and proves she should never EVER be near a man 2. Selfish, inconsiderate, and down right fucking evil. A man has a RIGHT to be informed of his child! And before you say anything dumb the character’s reaction proves he would have most likely stayed.
@@ionasmith1998 sorry honey you must have forgotten that you need a man’s fucking sperm, (which carries his DNA) to fertilise eggs made in the female body to make a damn baby. So it’s THEIR child. The ultimate decision should be left to the mother but it was SELFISH, IRRESPONSIBLE, AND HEARTLESS. For her to not even tell him about his child. Think before you talk, actually study before you talk because you obviously failed that fucking subject. 💀
@@ionasmith1998he never said he has the right to a decision.they said he had the right to know. You should try reading a comment before responding to it.
Its funny how the director is using this as a make believe lecture for men but you cant possibly empathize with the character shes using as a mouth piece
This isn't even a pro-life or pro-choice or man vs woman thing. She's just being a bad partner. She doesn't trust his ability to be reasonable or allow him the right to grieve or feel bad over the truth or have a say in the relationship. Does she get final say? Obviously. Should he get at least some say? YES! And on top of that, he has final say to leave the relationship. The thing afterwards with being "private" is the same problem. She isn't worried about his feelings or his say at all.
character‘s behavior genuinely gives off vibes as if she‘s not right in the head. The way she acts towards him and has completely zero ability to empathize with him
Although I'm 100% pro choice, I also don't like how she handled this. The decent thing would have been to talk to him about it and express how she felt versus doing it behind his back and expecting him to be okay with it. They seem to be making efforts to be in a serious relationship, so why she felt the need to omit this is beyond me.
If that was me and in that situation I would have a hard time carrying on in a relationship with that person….I probably would have forgiven her but moved on. My goodness, this is not actually normal behavior in terms of a situation like like this
I just dealt with this three weeks ago. I wanted to keep the baby she didn’t. I found myself breaking down after she told me she got the abortion and haven’t been able to stop since. Trust me when I say it hurts even more when the woman has no feelings regarding the situation. I’m not sure how to move forward and she isn’t phased.
Honestly, I don’t know how sick, who is sicker, the creator, the character, the actress who set out to make this character, the streak of this madness that made this series. I barely entered, I saw her on Instagram, I made a point of coming to HBO to see the full episode that shows how diabolical and psychopathic this issue of feminism was, it was a matter of justifying abortion using medical terms and using abortion from the point of view of feminism, it is not a matter of feminism, it is not a matter of gender or sexuality, it is a matter of human life that involves both parties, because without two there is no one, and people supporting it said they conquered it, the world is really lost. Damn, really, and the crazy revinho saying that he liked the moon and raw and scrotum way that abortion was treated, of people feminism and that’s how it has to be, but what madness, people are losing track.
While were all engaged in the topic, there are wards that will help a woman carry their baby to term and aid them every step of the process so that the baby can be put up for adoption and the mother is no longer responsible for the child. The INTERESTING part is when the first ultrasound happens and the mother gets to view the baby, a whopping 90% choose to keep the baby as their own. *90%* . That's not most of that's nearly every person. I don't think people fully understand how integrated into the female dna being a mother is.
90%.....I mean I do prefer the idea of a society were abortion isn't needed (with the exception of rape) and society has systems in place to support a child once it's born. But 90% seems a lil bogus of a statistic. If it's that high numbers why is abortion even still allowed if just taking women to this ward that has all they'd need set up.
Gender essentialism is such fairy dust but of course the Bible-thumpers don't actually care about science. To you women are just wombs. Baby-factories. They barely register as human beings at all
@@MatauReviews I'm a Christian woman and I like responsibility and not acting like an animal. Wow. What a concept. You want to tell my children they were only produced because mom is a baby factory? Go ahead. Go to your local church and tell all the families you see there just that. Except you won't because you're a coward that hides behind a computer all day.
Fun how pre birth all responsibility on the childs existence is the mothers. Post birth though if its a baby the dad didn't want. He is compelled to pay child care regardless. Women complaining about equal rights dont realize they have more rights.
Whether you're pro abortion or not, you cannot deny that she is in the wrong. You should still consult your partner because if what they believe about it isn't what you believe, then you shouldn't have slept together in the first place.
I'm a pro choice guy, but even I'm siding with the guy in this scene here because she's taking such a callous viewpoint of this subject, and disregarding his emotions. Yes, it's her body, her choice, but that choice also impacts him, and while I'm not saying that telling him beforehand--opening the door to a discussion about what to do--would have been any easier a conversation, to me I feel that it was morally, ethically, or at least respectfully, the better option for the relationship. Treat your partner with respect, acknowledge that they at the very least should be part of the discussion on what to do. That's just my two cents though.
If you're a pro choice guy, you're no better than the woman in this video. The fact of the matter is, she decided her baby wasn't "really" a baby and was able to discard it for no reason. Only pro choice people see it that way no matter if the man is involved or not. Treating a partner with respect also involves the understanding that the act of sex is for procreation and that is a risk to take and should be taken seriously as it can bond two people for a long time.
The true answer to that question is, "More than you think". While it is our body, it's their seed that's been planted inside us. Most don't stop to think how psychologically damaging this can be not only to us, but to men as well. It's obvious her character has had plenty of abortions, is psychotic or both. She just seemed so heartless. Waves (2019) shows the roles reversed. Whether you are for or against abortion, one thing is for certain, it's the killing of a life form. People should look more into Plan B and safer sex than anything else.
In an interview, Lena Dunham, the writer, said she was proud of the multiple abortions she had. That shows how this leaned towards the issue. It's just another form of birth control. Get over it. 😢 I'd never watch this show.
A majority of you are missing the point. He’s angry because they didn’t talk first. A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her body (good or bad). But the least a man deserves is the conversation before the act. Can we agree to that at least?
No I can't agree because it wasn't her body. When I was pregnant, did I suddenly have 2 heads? 4 legs? 20 fingers? No? Why not? If it's my body, and the being inside me is of my body, why is not the case.
Her character had an abortion every month since she got her first period, girl acts like she's talking about having breakfast. "I wanted to be open with you." "I'm not gonna tell you, that's private." I'd leave.
@@Kaboomboo because she would be the one growing it inside her for nine months. And then giving birth to it in an extremely painful and dangerous process, and then breast-feeding it. This should be obvious.
I have to say, I'm surprised to see so many people here commenting in support of the male in this scene. On twitter, I'm usually the only one (regarding this issue in general). What I notice about this scene is that you can clearly see the trust leave the room in Adam's eyes & his body language. You see his disgust with her & being ashamed of himself for not realizing sooner what kind of person she is (a terrible one).
The worst people you know are always the loudest but are also few in number. Most people feel disgusted after watching this.
The male is in the right? Adam has a right to be maf
Yeah. She killed his baby. I'd be mad.
There’s a lot more pro life people than you might think. It’s just been made the socially unacceptable position by mainstream culture, so pro choice people are less vocal online.
That's because it was twitter and most accounts owned by people who think for themselves were banned. It's a lot more balanced now, like literally half and half left vs right.
How psychotically callous she is in this situation is disturbing. I really hope the writers and everyone watching understood that.
I have a feeling many will see it the opposite way and see her as being "empowered".
Oh, no - of course they don't. Do you know the creators of this show? They 100% wouldn't see it his way. It's completely about how the woman feels, and that the lump of cells is dead. That's all that matters.
@@chrispiasecky7679yeah that’s why they beautifully depicted Adam’s emotions.. of pain and suffering and heartache.
@@chrispiasecky7679ppl like you have no sense of nuance whatsoever
Why wouldn’t the writers understand they’re the ones that wrote the scene
She literally says it so causally as if she just used his tooth brush or ate his sandwich
Because she is a psychopath. I'm a woman, also pro-choice but the way she just informs her boyfriend this way and decided to have the abortion without even telling him as the father, is beyond fucked up.
@@IBeMelissano. The fact she did it all means she's a psychopath. To think her own actions shouldn't have consequence and that someone else should pay the ultimate price.
I don't care if its her decision. The way she told him was cruel as fuck
That’s the point of the scene she’s emotionally cruel in a lot of different scenes this is just the pinnacle
I got the impression she told him to hurt him or to get a reaction.
If she wasn’t going to give him any input or knowledge at all there was no point to telling him after the fact.
Except to hurt him for some reason.
i have meet people like her.
thank god, they are few but they exist.
i think she was written as an actual character that believed that abortions are completly normal and that only intolerants dont accept them.
the vibe that im getting is that she feels like she thinks he is special and thats why she openly talks about it because she thinks he will accept it and she wants someone she can talk about it.
edit. i have never seen this series, so im basing this opinion on just this short clip.
She was literally in a weird relationship emotional freak fest with her ex throughout this she isn’t a good person and doesn’t treat Adam like a partner at all
Guys the whole point of this scene is to illustrate that she never ever cared about Adam’s feelings whatsoever. She was more self absorbed than Hannah. Media literacy is dead
thanks
The director wanted to show that an abortion wasnt something "to freak out about".
Yet the scene delivers the exact opposite.
SHES FO THE STREETS
Imagine the writers thinking the woman was in the right in this lol.
They do! That's what is so nuts.
You seek out this kind of stuff to comment on? Get a life and go volunteer to help the billions of neglected humans that are roaming the planet.
@@tammytan2635 I can tell it pushes your buttons for people to comment on here about how barbaric the character's actions are. Good. The tide is turning, Tammy. People are waking up every day.
Isn't that what you did, I know this might be hard to believe but some people don't support murder and the girl in this show is a monster
You do it. @@tammytan2635
One of the most disgusting scenes in tv history.
For real.
Yeah murdering babies is disgusting.
A woman like this would never see my face again.
Adam Driver’s acting is so good he’s turning y’all pro-life 😂
Why wouldn’t we be
Gods, this comment broke me :D :D :D Still laughing my ass off,wtf
I was always pro life
I first saw this clip on tick toc and everyone in the comments applauded her! I'm glad to see TH-camrs have more sense!
Psycho. End of story. If you're not going to so much involve him in any decision-making process or tell him beforehand then why on earth tell him after...unless cruelty is just her thing.
she wanted to establish that she is the dominant one in the relationship probally.
@@MK-rw1on Time to dump her.
She is ive watch the end and its her manipulation keeping him there its sick
He asked to have sex. She couldn't because she'd just had an abortion. That's why she told him. It was relevant to the conversation.
@@MyAccountForCommenting she could have just told him that she's not in the mood. She already deceived him. No possible reason to come clean after the fact.
Even adam's character was in complete disbelieve he thought she was joking at first.
Oh, Britta’s in this?
The nonchalant way she talked about killing the baby made my skin crawl .
Adam Driver's character in this scene seems less angry that she got an abortion and more angry that she went behind his back to do it and didn't even have the decency to tell him about her decision to do so first
Naw he’s clearly angry about the child, asking if it’s a boy or a girl is something you do when your already picturing having a baby in your mind
Definitely.
Reading all these comments bring me so much relief. I’m 100% pro choice, but I thought I was the only one to think she was treating going to get an abortion like she made a quick run to the grocery store.
So callous and I never liked her character, haha.
Having a discussion with him about it beforehand would have been the respectful thing to do.
I lean pro-life yet I think his reaction was over the top. But Adam is a dramatic individual.
Eh, sometimes an abortion isn’t a big deal. Sometimes it’s literally just a medical decision and you move on. What IS thoughtless was dropping it on him and assuming he wouldn’t be bothered about it without discussing it with him first. Couples need to be having those discussions of “what happens if x happens” well in advance, and that goes for both sides. It just never occurred to him to have it because men have the privilege of not having to think of pregnancy as anything but an abstract.
Anyone saying "good on her" "he over reacted" are you all fucked in the head? Its a show i understand, but to defend someone who killed a child without telling the father is probably one of the worst things you can do in a relationship in my opinion. "Her body her choice" you realise it takes 2 people to create and raise a child? If women want full choice on deciding to have the baby, men should have full choice on paying child support or not
"killed a child" - are you stupid?
@ionasmith1998 an abortion is killing a child, dumbie
Cry moar
@@weirdhilltodieonbutatleast9268bro learn how to spell
Yes. We've got a whole country that's fucked in the head. If not about this, then about something else.
Just the way she told him, it was so cruel 😞 why even tell him at all.
Adam is a great actor.
Her character was such a sociopath.
Right?? She always sounded like an real psycho for me, I wonder if the directors meant that.
@@Jess-yo9rt It's not the directors, it's the writer, who was Lena Dunham, and I'm sure she did. She was very mindful of how she wrote all the characters.
I think she was supposed to be autistic
@@stefs7141 True Autistic people aren't functioning in the world. They're constantly overstimulated, so they can't handle the everyday world, especially with its chaotic noises. And they need ritual in order to function day to day. They also don't make eye contact, because it's too much to have to focus on faces while listening to voices at the same time. And they have a flat, monotone affect with their speaking....IF they're even speaking at all. Many don't. That's what true Autism is. It's people who, as adults, are often still living with their families or even in mental facilities, because they can't function in the world. Unfortunately too many people nowadays are overusing the term and no longer understand what the condition truly involves.
W comment section. A cold hollow shell of a real woman.
"So you wanted a baby" no, he HAD a baby. He didn't want you murdering it and then talking about it with the same level of concern as someone discussing the weather.
You know this show is fictional, right? Like, these aren’t real people… calm down
@@tammytan2635 theres sickos out there that talk like this about abortion tho
I get the sentiment but it isn't accurate. In the period where abortion is done (up untill 22 weeks where I'm from) the fetus isn't fully developed. The brain is still in progress. The baby would not make it after a c-section and intensive care.
So yes the fetus is alive (the cells it's made of) but it's not a person yet. An abortion is more similar to amputating a limb or removing an organ, then to homicide.
@@fluffylittleclouds1 It is not an extension or a body part of the mother once it has its own dna and homeostasis, and that happens at conception. It is quite literally another human being biologically, even if it is smaller and less developed than you or I. Making personhood contingent on having the right level of development (though not specifying when that begins) is a terrible standard for protecting human rights.
It doesn't matter what he wanted. He cannot make that decision
When he asked “was it mine?” I’d personally rather be told no.. so that atleast when I leave, the thought I had a potential son or daughter’s life end before it started isn’t with me.
Her: So you wanted a baby?
Me: No, but I’m willing to deal with the consequence and handle the responsibility.
Women like this are one of the reasons I haven't started dating again four years after my divorce.
The fact her character acted like he was upset over spilt milk. Nah, even spilt milk would be a waste, she treated it less than that. Like he was throwing an illogical hissy fit.
Sickening that someone could so flippantly say they killed a human life just like that
Lots of killers in these comments
Disgusting, when I got pregnant with my daughter it was very hard. I was 80% for abortion. Until I saw my little gummy bear baby. I knew then she was mine and I loved her and I couldn’t allow anything to happen to my baby. She’s 13 now
God bless you and your girl. 🙏🏻
Bless you and your daughter!
What’s with all the pro-life people in here? I had an abortion and it had no effect on me whatsoever, I was happy to get it over with and not have the burden of a child.
@@DancingDeity having an abortion didn't stop you from being a mother. It made you the mother of a dead child.
He has every right to be angry. It's very disturbing how unphased she is by her abortion. Two are involved in a pregnancy! I hope this scene makes people think- it speaks for itself.
Obviously two are not involved in a pregnancy according to the law...
@@dreal500the only instance in which there were not two people involved in the creation of a pregnancy was the Virgin Mary…and even then, there was a second individual who was technically involved..
Imagine saying Trying to be more open with you and
I’m not gonna share that with you because it’s private within 30 seconds
lmao 😂
Women ☕️
This the scene I did in acting class. Damn just now realizing
Going through this comment section has reaffirmed my stance that women should not vote
Honestly, I agree. Without the female vote, like every state is red. Even as a sane and non-sociopathic woman who fears God and votes according to God's design and not emotional manipulation.... We fall for too much.
Well it was family that vote counted for. One per family. The head of the household. Most of the time it was men. What they don’t tell you is some women voted lol.
@@Shatamx"some"
be real it maybe was like 0.0001% of the voters.
@@MK-rw1onForgot you were there.
@@Shatamx we have historical numbers lmao
Of all the actresses that could’ve played this character they chose Brita from Community 😂
Yeah it's actually kinda painful to see her in this role and act so apathetic towards someone who loves her very much and has considered a future with that person with the possibility of children. I dating a girl who treated me so apathetically when mentioning that she was sleeping this other people. The feeling of betrayal one feels in an emotional dynamic like this scene is only second to violent acts. Excruciating.
For most guys the moment they get told "I'm pregnant" "I had an abortion/misarrange" something clicks in their brain. From that moment on their entire worldview is changed. This scene weather intended to or not shows the range of emotions men can go through when presented with this. Adam Drivers acting is so good you can see the newfound love for a being he helped create and the admiration for his girlfriend get ripped away as he processes the situation. An entirely new life path gone in an instant. Reduced to "What if".
Proud of everyone here supporting Driver's character. What a horrific thing to do, killing a baby. And the callousness from the woman is enough to inspire despair of all sense of feminine/maternal decency.
Imagine making this shown and having the nerve to actually think the blond is in the right here. This is why the culture is shifting and we will have child murder and sacrifice abolished like slavery
Comments made my day. Happy to see people have souls.
Im pro choice all day, but that was real shitty.
Dude, the same thing happened to a friend of mine. I was at his house watching a Knicks game with him. His wife walks in and he asks her where she’s been. And she said nonchalant I got an abortion today… at first we both laughed. Then he asked are you serious? And both went to the kitchen… then I heard him yelling how could do this to our child. What is wrong with you? It’s our baby… I walked to the kitchen to tell I’m leaving when I heard her whisper it’s no big deal. I will never forget his face expression. He’s eyes just watered up. Oh man, I told him I’m sorry and that I was leaving. He just simply nodded him head. I looked over his ex wife and her face. The way she rolled her eyes at him when he started crying… when got home, I just hugged my wife and kids. I thanked my wife for not being a crazy murderius bitch. And kissed and hugged my kids extra hard that night. I love my family and can’t believe that there are people willing to kill a child let alone their own child.
Poor guy. The modern world Literally destroyed his soul.
Dude I would grab my stuff and leave and never talk to her again.
um okay that’s a win for her then
@@MayaLea99 she did him wrong, there is no denying that
@@MayaLea99 American women☠️
Good. Bye.
@@MayaLea99tell me you're alone without telling me you're alone 😂
This clip, if nothing else, shows the negative consequences of extreme feminism. Its one thing to believe that abortion is a womans right and another thing entirely to tell women en masse that abortion is "no big deal". Im prolife, but i know for most women who go through with an abortion, its a gut wrenching decision, often with emotional fallout that can last months or years. In their effort to normalize abortion, extreme feminists have promoted the idea that abortion is a casual thing that women should feel free to do, no questions asked, and without any grief or mixed feelings. This discounts the reality of the experience for millions of women everywhere.
She's a total sociopath. Is that what the writer was going for?
"My body, my choice."
Choices have consequences.
Unforgivable. I'd have to leave as quickly as possible.
Not that I've been in this situation, but had an ex girlfriend tell me in the almost exact way that she'd had an abortion. So cold, expressionless and matter of fact way, it just made my soul shiver. This video is actors telling a story and a script, but there's women out there that are just as bad and worse.
Can you believe that people tried to make Adam in this scene the villain
I met a few women in university that had multiple anortions & talked about it nonchalantly like this. Honestly made me sick to my stomach & not surprisingly, non of them are married or in relationships. It’s impossible to feel love from someone who has no emotion.
That’s horrible. I assure you though, not all women act like this.
That’s so fucked.
My ex did that to me I was voiceless and shut down by her and her family. If women can abort then men have every right to relinquish financial responsibilities.
I’m so sorry to hear that
Saw this scene on my feed, then googled it and clicked a tiktok link . Could only see a couple of comments cos I don't have the app but they were saying "she handled this perfectly" and how toxic Adams character is. It's sickening.
Even as an atheist non-american, if a woman spoke to me like this I'd be heartbroken and she'd be single that minute
Don't forget TikTok caters to teenagers who eat tide pods and train surf. Not the brightest bulbs in the pack.
@@tessm8783 You're about seven or eight years out of date with that. I can't wait to hear you geezers prattle on about our newfangled "Beatles" and other dumb nonsense that makes you feel better about aging into obscurity
Oh God I wouldn't wish this on any man.
She murdered his kid. And she sees nothing wrong with it. That's the absolutely terrifying part.
Had she possessed some sort of conscience about it, it mightve been a different conversation they would've had...but nah. In his head, he was a father for a brief moment, and she took it away from him. This was a very sickening scene.
I know for a fact that once the full gravity of her actions hits her one day, it'll ruin her for the rest of her life.
She could have just not told him.
Probably would have been better, because she directly created a trauma in his life by saying it. Like it or not, it is a mans child you are inherently terminating. The “her body, her choice” argument is a fallacy.
That's grounds for leaving you and finding another woman who values life over selfishness
@@BiGbIrD445 They would never know though?
@@Beard-OF-Courage No it isn't
Sick careless woman
I know this is just a film. But I saw few people in my life that said something they thought normal but actually horrifying on the ears of other people. Their reaction when we called out how horrible the things they said, they just... With a surprised pikachu face asked more or less "did I say something wrong here?"
I don't know if they are that oblivious or that they are from the beginning a bunch of bonafide sociopaths, but they didn't know if they uttered something horrid like saying today's weather.
People like the girl on this vid exist
I’m pretty impressed with the comment section here. The way she so was so cavalier about delivering the news is obscene. Stone cold woman. This is not some throw away statement like, “Oh by the way, I drank the last soda in the fridge and I know you were saving it for yourself. I’m sorry, my bad.”
No, she aborted his baby and didn’t even tell him till it was too late
Dude you don’t tell the guy. Even Morgan freeman in se7en talks about it
This is really SUCH a good show
The pregnant woman gets to make the decision but she should atleast discuss it with the guy UNLESS he's abusive or left her.
That's straight up psychopathic
I don’t think y’all know how babies are made. You see it’s half hers and half his. He has every FUCKING RIGHT to know. And her decision to abort then tell him is:
1. Irresponsible and proves she should never EVER be near a man
2. Selfish, inconsiderate, and down right fucking evil.
A man has a RIGHT to be informed of his child!
And before you say anything dumb the character’s reaction proves he would have most likely stayed.
No he has no decision. It’s not “hers and half his” because it’s ONLY her that can carry it and choose to make that decision.
@@ionasmith1998 sorry honey you must have forgotten that you need a man’s fucking sperm, (which carries his DNA) to fertilise eggs made in the female body to make a damn baby. So it’s THEIR child. The ultimate decision should be left to the mother but it was SELFISH, IRRESPONSIBLE, AND HEARTLESS. For her to not even tell him about his child. Think before you talk, actually study before you talk because you obviously failed that fucking subject. 💀
@@ionasmith1998he never said he has the right to a decision.they said he had the right to know. You should try reading a comment before responding to it.
@@MattLachance-ss8cd no they fucking don’t though do they? Men have literally no right to know that a woman they shagged had an abortion.
@@ionasmith1998then why do we need child support and ancillary benefits
Its funny how the director is using this as a make believe lecture for men but you cant possibly empathize with the character shes using as a mouth piece
This isn't even a pro-life or pro-choice or man vs woman thing. She's just being a bad partner. She doesn't trust his ability to be reasonable or allow him the right to grieve or feel bad over the truth or have a say in the relationship. Does she get final say? Obviously. Should he get at least some say? YES! And on top of that, he has final say to leave the relationship. The thing afterwards with being "private" is the same problem. She isn't worried about his feelings or his say at all.
character‘s behavior genuinely gives off vibes as if she‘s not right in the head. The way she acts towards him and has completely zero ability to empathize with him
Although I'm 100% pro choice, I also don't like how she handled this. The decent thing would have been to talk to him about it and express how she felt versus doing it behind his back and expecting him to be okay with it. They seem to be making efforts to be in a serious relationship, so why she felt the need to omit this is beyond me.
She looks so proud when she tells him too
If that was me and in that situation I would have a hard time carrying on in a relationship with that person….I probably would have forgiven her but moved on.
My goodness, this is not actually normal behavior in terms of a situation like like this
I just dealt with this three weeks ago. I wanted to keep the baby she didn’t. I found myself breaking down after she told me she got the abortion and haven’t been able to stop since. Trust me when I say it hurts even more when the woman has no feelings regarding the situation. I’m not sure how to move forward and she isn’t phased.
You better leave her bro. Nothing good comes from women like that.
Abstain. Use protection. Get married.
I haven't watch this show, but is she always so hateful and hearless? She seems like a person i wouldn't wish even to my worst enemy
Honestly, I don’t know how sick, who is sicker, the creator, the character, the actress who set out to make this character, the streak of this madness that made this series. I barely entered, I saw her on Instagram, I made a point of coming to HBO to see the full episode that shows how diabolical and psychopathic this issue of feminism was, it was a matter of justifying abortion using medical terms and using abortion from the point of view of feminism, it is not a matter of feminism, it is not a matter of gender or sexuality, it is a matter of human life that involves both parties, because without two there is no one, and people supporting it said they conquered it, the world is really lost. Damn, really, and the crazy revinho saying that he liked the moon and raw and scrotum way that abortion was treated, of people feminism and that’s how it has to be, but what madness, people are losing track.
Its her choice everyone needs to grow up... i will tho say she didnt need to tell him thats it
The baby needed to grow up, but she killed the baby.
Choice implies agency. Agency equals culpability.
Wow this really is Sam Hyde
She pisses me off I hate her character in the whole damn series !
Adam Sackler deserved better in this series.
While were all engaged in the topic, there are wards that will help a woman carry their baby to term and aid them every step of the process so that the baby can be put up for adoption and the mother is no longer responsible for the child.
The INTERESTING part is when the first ultrasound happens and the mother gets to view the baby, a whopping 90% choose to keep the baby as their own.
*90%* . That's not most of that's nearly every person. I don't think people fully understand how integrated into the female dna being a mother is.
90%.....I mean I do prefer the idea of a society were abortion isn't needed (with the exception of rape) and society has systems in place to support a child once it's born. But 90% seems a lil bogus of a statistic. If it's that high numbers why is abortion even still allowed if just taking women to this ward that has all they'd need set up.
Also adoptions before the baby is born are almost always succesful and almost all babies are adopted
Gender essentialism is such fairy dust but of course the Bible-thumpers don't actually care about science. To you women are just wombs. Baby-factories. They barely register as human beings at all
@@MatauReviews I'm a Christian woman and I like responsibility and not acting like an animal. Wow. What a concept. You want to tell my children they were only produced because mom is a baby factory? Go ahead. Go to your local church and tell all the families you see there just that. Except you won't because you're a coward that hides behind a computer all day.
Why was he sleeping with a woman that didn’t want to commit to motherhood in the first place?
He smoked her acting. Driver had the force of 70s Dustin Hoffman. No offense to Jacobs, but he's big screen material and she isn't.
Fun how pre birth all responsibility on the childs existence is the mothers. Post birth though if its a baby the dad didn't want. He is compelled to pay child care regardless. Women complaining about equal rights dont realize they have more rights.
Whether you're pro abortion or not, you cannot deny that she is in the wrong. You should still consult your partner because if what they believe about it isn't what you believe, then you shouldn't have slept together in the first place.
People can change their minds even if you discuss it before sex
@@veda6831so? Making a baby needs two people but killing it only needs one?
@@yunaru3643 who carries the pregnancy?
@@veda6831 who donated the sperm?
@@veda6831 Who put the baby there?
Her demeanor…sociopathic…🚩🚩🚩
I'm a pro choice guy, but even I'm siding with the guy in this scene here because she's taking such a callous viewpoint of this subject, and disregarding his emotions. Yes, it's her body, her choice, but that choice also impacts him, and while I'm not saying that telling him beforehand--opening the door to a discussion about what to do--would have been any easier a conversation, to me I feel that it was morally, ethically, or at least respectfully, the better option for the relationship. Treat your partner with respect, acknowledge that they at the very least should be part of the discussion on what to do. That's just my two cents though.
If you're a pro choice guy, you're no better than the woman in this video. The fact of the matter is, she decided her baby wasn't "really" a baby and was able to discard it for no reason. Only pro choice people see it that way no matter if the man is involved or not. Treating a partner with respect also involves the understanding that the act of sex is for procreation and that is a risk to take and should be taken seriously as it can bond two people for a long time.
That's probably how I'd act with her. Then I'd pack my bag
Lot of women haters in the comments. Whatever
Lots of murder haters smh😞....
@@alexeistukov433 abortion is healthcare. Not sorry
Wow. How awful. What a hateful©️un✝️.
The true answer to that question is, "More than you think". While it is our body, it's their seed that's been planted inside us. Most don't stop to think how psychologically damaging this can be not only to us, but to men as well. It's obvious her character has had plenty of abortions, is psychotic or both. She just seemed so heartless. Waves (2019) shows the roles reversed. Whether you are for or against abortion, one thing is for certain, it's the killing of a life form. People should look more into Plan B and safer sex than anything else.
I watched the episode to see what happens next, he just forgives her like nothing, what a simp and what a shitty series, this makes me want to puke.
In an interview, Lena Dunham, the writer, said she was proud of the multiple abortions she had. That shows how this leaned towards the issue. It's just another form of birth control. Get over it. 😢 I'd never watch this show.
A majority of you are missing the point. He’s angry because they didn’t talk first. A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her body (good or bad). But the least a man deserves is the conversation before the act. Can we agree to that at least?
No. They're not married.
@@MyAccountForCommentingbut it’s his kid just as much as it’s hers so ya they do.
No I can't agree because it wasn't her body. When I was pregnant, did I suddenly have 2 heads? 4 legs? 20 fingers? No? Why not? If it's my body, and the being inside me is of my body, why is not the case.
No she does not have that right. It is not her body, but the child she is brutally getting ripped apart like it's nothing.
I do get it, but I don't like it at all. Lack of true communication all around
Valid response from a father 😢🩷
Her character had an abortion every month since she got her first period, girl acts like she's talking about having breakfast.
"I wanted to be open with you." "I'm not gonna tell you, that's private."
I'd leave.
she should’ve told him:(
Nah
So many murderers commenting
See it more seems to be a dogpile from pro-life Christian lunatics
@@MatauReviews Who hurt you?
@@Kaboomboo nobody
Hard to blame her with all the bs propaganda she has heard in her life
Sickening
Even if the guy agrees with abortion you need to tell the guy
We live in demonic times eh? But why? 🤔
It’s actually scary how casual she says it. She says it like she has a cold or allergies.
I dont get it is he her husband? Why does he feel entitled to her birthing his kids ?
Why does she feel entitled to murder his?
@@Kaboomboo because she would be the one growing it inside her for nine months. And then giving birth to it in an extremely painful and dangerous process, and then breast-feeding it. This should be obvious.
Watch the show
yes please base all of your life interactions with men this way, very healthy
Why tell him at all then if he wasn't entitled to the decision?