Finally an explanation about rehydration vs cooking. My wife and I love to cook, with our Keith titanium 6 litre pot and our 39cm Japanese titanium wok. XL it is! Very informative, thanks
Thanks for the breakdown on the variations... Hate to be pernickety here but the numbers you put up is a 40% weight saving. Not the 60% as claimed. May just be lost in translation here but thought I'd put that one out there
My take is if you’re gonna actually cook on it from scratch and for any length of time without being glued to it feeding it fuel all the time, get the XL, even if you’re just one person. I don’t know about the stainless steel but the titanium simply more or less burns clean so that’s nice as is the weight reduction. Also Canadian Outdoor Equipment are awesome and provide excellent service 👍👍👍 Bonus tip - if you have something like a classic bush pot - the small grill plate from the Bushbox will fit perfectly as a baking tray that lets heat travel through and around it - if you lay it on it’s side to bake bread. I like to put some small stones under it just to retain a stable heat environment and shield a bit from the direct heat. And the pot will rest comfortably on its side on top of the box with the curve of it between the iron girders.
I have the smallest 2 here. I generally just solo, so the ultralight works fine. I mostly use it as a pot stand for alcohol stoves and like the fact it can burn wood as a backup in case I run out of alcohol. I got the tiny one just because it was cute, and built an alcohol stove to it, but I doubt I'll ever actually use it.
Testing is half the fun, eating or drinking the other half, use it already 👍 Ooooh ur the one that Mark Young was talking about 😆 I'm gonna have to make that alcohol wick stove, too & have fun testing it out 💪
I'm going to be ordering a stove from you sometime before spring. I already have the 5" firebox, so I'm good for winter, or small groups, but I need a small solo stove for day hikes and weekends. I want primarily a twig stove, but also a Trangia pot stand/windbreak. Flexibility in fuels and set ups and pot sizes or shapes, ease of use like keeping it going and control of the heat are all important factors, as well as stability on rougher surfaces are all important qualities. I'll be using it for solo, day hikes or weekenders, and I need to rehydrate, and a little quick frying sausages, eggs etc.... So my choices right now are Firebox nano, or bushbox pocket, or ultralight. What are your opinions? I was set to buy the nano, largely because I love the 5" so much, I figure I can't go wrong, but those little feet worry me, and the design, I'm afraid won't do well on uneven terrain. That's why I was thinking about the ultralight, but I don't like puzzle stoves much, and that trivet thing would make keeping it full a little more difficult. Plus no Swedish torch.. about the only thing I see going for the pocket is it doesn't have those little wire feet.....ughhh, I don't know what to buy!?! HELP!!! Oh, I'm aware the X case came out to try to remedy the little feet issue.
The Ultralight is a great option for solo hikers, imo. The smallest one is decent for using the tin of a tealight as a makeshift alcohol stove. It will not be the most efficient alcohol stove, but better than trying to boil water with it using sticks - which is practically impossible. It is however suited for heating water for a cup of coffee, as long as you are a bit careful not to tip it over. I have seen 1 guy on YT who made a breakfast meal with it, and it did get the job done, but it takes a lot more time and work than with a bigger one. ALWAYS use these things on safe ground, and NEVER on a dirt road like i did with the "EDC Micro stove" (the smallest one); thinking a dirt road would be safe enough, and especially with this little thing... Luckily i noticed the heat underneath it, and had water on hand to quench the fire/embers that was "burning" underground. I even had to use a stick to dig down maybe 15cm to quench all of it..!
Good overview! Until now I have used gas and later on the Trangia. I LOVE the Trangia. It's so well designed and never a problem in windy conditions. I recently bought the Titanium LF version of the Bushbox because it is easy (and cheap) to get wood for cooking. I have not used it yet, but I certainly will during my next bicycle tour next year. Question 1: what is the easiest method you suggest to get the fire started on the Bushbox? Question 2: in what kinnd of shops can we get alcohol for the Trangia? Do fuel stations normally also sell denaturated alcohol (1 liter bottles)? Thanks!
Hi Erik - Thnx for your comments. Re: your questions: 1) Easiest way to get fire started for me has always been Instaflam - especially when things are wet. Small tinder bundle of twigs/bark/dried grasses will also work. 2) Depends where you are. In Canada, the trick is to look for Methyl Hydrate (methanol) - any hardware/paint store carries it. Denatured alcohol (ethanol) is harder to find here, but is available at marinas (as marine stove fuel), and in grocery stores (as fondue fuel).
A third option, is to bring 1-2 cup's worth of hardwood pellets, cut up a s/s splatter screen so the pellets don't fall thru, depending on ur stove, and with a splash of alcohol or squirt of fondue fire gel (or ubiquitous hand sanitizer, thx COVID) spark it up & ur good to go, instant fire 🔥 Pellets are cheaper than methyl hydrate, a 40lb bag from Cdn Tire ~$7 = 180 cups = 4-8¢/burn 🔥 2 cups will burn for 40 mins, long enough for a cup of coffee & cook or rehydrate a meal 😊
"melting snow with a tealight" humm that is dangerous misinformation right there. a tea light is not even 30watts equivalent output and trying to heat up anything outside in negative temperature (if there is snow...) is imposible.
Hi Francois - thanks for your opinion. Melting snow with a tea light with the EDC stove was mentioned as it pertains to having one in your vehicle, and using it in your vehicle, and it does work - I've done it, with both snow and ice - it's not impossible, in fact it's very do-able. I'm certainly not suggesting this would be your snow melting method on a winter trip, but as I'm sure you're aware, eating snow is not advisable in terms of staying hydrated, so in an emergency when you are stranded, a tea light and the EDC stove provides a safe and easy method for liquifying snow and ice.
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Finally an explanation about rehydration vs cooking. My wife and I love to cook, with our Keith titanium 6 litre pot and our 39cm Japanese titanium wok. XL it is! Very informative, thanks
Great, concise advice and clearly spoken and explained. 10/10
Glad it was helpful!
Oh how I love outdoor videos in English that use the metric system :)
In England we use the metric system
Great overview, best I've seen by a long shot.
Thanks for the breakdown on the variations...
Hate to be pernickety here but the numbers you put up is a 40% weight saving. Not the 60% as claimed. May just be lost in translation here but thought I'd put that one out there
My take is if you’re gonna actually cook on it from scratch and for any length of time without being glued to it feeding it fuel all the time, get the XL, even if you’re just one person. I don’t know about the stainless steel but the titanium simply more or less burns clean so that’s nice as is the weight reduction. Also Canadian Outdoor Equipment are awesome and provide excellent service 👍👍👍
Bonus tip - if you have something like a classic bush pot - the small grill plate from the Bushbox will fit perfectly as a baking tray that lets heat travel through and around it - if you lay it on it’s side to bake bread. I like to put some small stones under it just to retain a stable heat environment and shield a bit from the direct heat. And the pot will rest comfortably on its side on top of the box with the curve of it between the iron girders.
Great overview not to many on these little stoves I carried the mini in my wallet for ever, cheers!
Thank you, just the comparisions I was looking for 😀👍
No problem 👍
Very helpful, thank you.
I'd choose one from the bigger end just to get to enjoy the fire itself. Dry socks maybe and try to get warm.
Good review, I ordered the stainless XL.
Good run down on the stoves. Especially the point about the burn chamber sizing.
Thanks Rick - much appreciated.
Very helpful video, thanks.
Really useful. Thanks!
I have the smallest 2 here. I generally just solo, so the ultralight works fine. I mostly use it as a pot stand for alcohol stoves and like the fact it can burn wood as a backup in case I run out of alcohol. I got the tiny one just because it was cute, and built an alcohol stove to it, but I doubt I'll ever actually use it.
Testing is half the fun, eating or drinking the other half, use it already 👍
Ooooh ur the one that Mark Young was talking about 😆 I'm gonna have to make that alcohol wick stove, too & have fun testing it out 💪
I'm going to be ordering a stove from you sometime before spring. I already have the 5" firebox, so I'm good for winter, or small groups, but I need a small solo stove for day hikes and weekends. I want primarily a twig stove, but also a Trangia pot stand/windbreak. Flexibility in fuels and set ups and pot sizes or shapes, ease of use like keeping it going and control of the heat are all important factors, as well as stability on rougher surfaces are all important qualities.
I'll be using it for solo, day hikes or weekenders, and I need to rehydrate, and a little quick frying sausages, eggs etc....
So my choices right now are Firebox nano, or bushbox pocket, or ultralight.
What are your opinions?
I was set to buy the nano, largely because I love the 5" so much, I figure I can't go wrong, but those little feet worry me, and the design, I'm afraid won't do well on uneven terrain. That's why I was thinking about the ultralight, but I don't like puzzle stoves much, and that trivet thing would make keeping it full a little more difficult. Plus no Swedish torch.. about the only thing I see going for the pocket is it doesn't have those little wire feet.....ughhh, I don't know what to buy!?! HELP!!!
Oh, I'm aware the X case came out to try to remedy the little feet issue.
Thank you sir
Thanks!! Awesome video
Glad you liked it!
The Ultralight is a great option for solo hikers, imo. The smallest one is decent for using the tin of a tealight as a makeshift alcohol stove. It will not be the most efficient alcohol stove, but better than trying to boil water with it using sticks - which is practically impossible. It is however suited for heating water for a cup of coffee, as long as you are a bit careful not to tip it over. I have seen 1 guy on YT who made a breakfast meal with it, and it did get the job done, but it takes a lot more time and work than with a bigger one.
ALWAYS use these things on safe ground, and NEVER on a dirt road like i did with the "EDC Micro stove" (the smallest one); thinking a dirt road would be safe enough, and especially with this little thing... Luckily i noticed the heat underneath it, and had water on hand to quench the fire/embers that was "burning" underground. I even had to use a stick to dig down maybe 15cm to quench all of it..!
Good overview!
Until now I have used gas and later on the Trangia. I LOVE the Trangia. It's so well designed and never a problem in windy conditions. I recently bought the Titanium LF version of the Bushbox because it is easy (and cheap) to get wood for cooking. I have not used it yet, but I certainly will during my next bicycle tour next year.
Question 1: what is the easiest method you suggest to get the fire started on the Bushbox?
Question 2: in what kinnd of shops can we get alcohol for the Trangia? Do fuel stations normally also sell denaturated alcohol (1 liter bottles)?
Thanks!
Hi Erik - Thnx for your comments.
Re: your questions:
1) Easiest way to get fire started for me has always been Instaflam - especially when things are wet. Small tinder bundle of twigs/bark/dried grasses will also work.
2) Depends where you are. In Canada, the trick is to look for Methyl Hydrate (methanol) - any hardware/paint store carries it. Denatured alcohol (ethanol) is harder to find here, but is available at marinas (as marine stove fuel), and in grocery stores (as fondue fuel).
A third option, is to bring 1-2 cup's worth of hardwood pellets, cut up a s/s splatter screen so the pellets don't fall thru, depending on ur stove, and with a splash of alcohol or squirt of fondue fire gel (or ubiquitous hand sanitizer, thx COVID) spark it up & ur good to go, instant fire 🔥
Pellets are cheaper than methyl hydrate, a 40lb bag from Cdn Tire ~$7 = 180 cups = 4-8¢/burn 🔥 2 cups will burn for 40 mins, long enough for a cup of coffee & cook or rehydrate a meal 😊
Wonderful video for sure .Thank you. American measurements also would have been much appreciated.
Thank you
Got two mini.
I recently ordered the XL from your store. Once it gets here, I will try it out on a 10 day canoe trip I planned and see how it goes. Looks nice.
Bush box xl titanium works with wood trangia spirit burner an trangia gas
Are you sure it works with Trangia Gas burner? How about the LF? Also works with Trangia burner??
"melting snow with a tealight" humm that is dangerous misinformation right there. a tea light is not even 30watts equivalent output and trying to heat up anything outside in negative temperature (if there is snow...) is imposible.
Hi Francois - thanks for your opinion.
Melting snow with a tea light with the EDC stove was mentioned as it pertains to having one in your vehicle, and using it in your vehicle, and it does work - I've done it, with both snow and ice - it's not impossible, in fact it's very do-able.
I'm certainly not suggesting this would be your snow melting method on a winter trip, but as I'm sure you're aware, eating snow is not advisable in terms of staying hydrated, so in an emergency when you are stranded, a tea light and the EDC stove provides a safe and easy method for liquifying snow and ice.
800g - 490g = a saving of 310g... 310/800 = 38.75% weight saving...
Therefore, Ti is not a 60% weight saving, it is a 40% weight saving ?
wish i could afford a bushbox LF. :/
Nano
Where is the Firebox?
Firebox rip-off, even the carry bags are using the same colors for the emblem and and lettering.