When Cousins Marry
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- This powerful documentary reveals the tragic health problems suffered by children born within first-cousin marriages and explores the controversy surrounding this cultural phenomenon. A disproportionate number of rare recessive genetic disorders occur amongst those of South Asian and especially Pakistani descent and the programme investigates the science, political and social consequences of marrying your first cousin.
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Incest should be illegal. I don't care if it's 1st, 2nd, 3rd cousin etc. it's sickening
Bigamy is illegal in the west, has that ever stopped a Muslim family?
It’s traditional in many Muslim communities
For some reason the girl Sarah who gave birth to 7 children from her father all of her kids turned out right. Why is that none of them had a genetic disorder? Not even down syndrome.
Ikr, for these cases not to happen, and innocent children and souls not to suffer, this should be illegal in law, and should be treated as a crime
@@lisam8608 love is love.
Just because something has been going on for centuries, doesn't mean it has to be followed blindly.
it does if you're Muslim
It's funnier that you say that because they're all literally blind and retarded because of it.
kcmn00 I see what you did there
I am frm PAKISTAN but i am agre with U...
Why not?
What is more saddening is that the parents are not willing to accept the medical evidence. Rather, they blame their fate!
abhinav reddy is saddening even a word?
DIY Aalae yes
Those parents look like siblings, they are so similar. Same nose, especially. And same denial of the truth. Sad.
abhinav reddy mulla logic.
Or blame the drs
The man said: Why wouldn't you want to marry your first cousin??...I literally 🤢... The thought of marrying my cousin makes me sick to my stomach🤮
2 billion Muslims and 200 millions South Indian hindus don't have taboo with first cousin marriages. That doesn't mean that they have to marry cousins. Occasionally marrying cousins doesn't significantly impact genetic outcomes.
With modern technology simple genetic screening before marriage can mitigate almost most of its risks.
Pakistanis marrying their cousins is excessive they should widen their genetic spread consciously and where they do genetic screening should be the norm.
These kind of breathlessly dissing Muslim practices without nuance is habit of the white people.
That's your opinion.
@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde This is a fact... You should be ashamed🤢🤮
@@RaffaelloLorenzusSaydethats a fact not opinions sicko
@@RaffaelloLorenzusSaydeyou mean the truth 😅😅😅 blood is blood and laying in bed with your own is 🤢🤢
Cousin marriage isn't a religious mandate. It is a cultural problem, which needs to be addressed through education.
Its religous too
@@josepablitoaurar7051 lol no it isn’t, show me where it says that? Brainless tweeb
@@knt2660 its allowed in islam to marry first Cousins.
@@knt2660 why so mad ? You should think before saying such rude things i didnt say Bad Word Toward you or did i ?
🤭🤭
You know you’re doing something wrong when ALL 3 OF YOUR KIDS have the same extremely rare genetic disorder 🤔
Yeah. Lol.
But then again, we all know they will try for number 4. 🤷♀️🤪
Swears
they had 6 kids? 50% but yea the should have realised
@@lexannmariejackson9542 I would imagine you don't know a lot about these types of countries. Where would you go? How would you? Money? It is very hard to even leave some of these countries let alone to be able to afford it. And you also think it is gross for the same reasons we all do. Because you were raised somewhere else where you are taught that. These people weren't. They said 50% or something like that of their country marries their first cousin. The girl speaking stated her grandparents were cousins. Not something we would do but it is easy to say I would do this or that if were halfway around the world
@@retrosurfer76 how does anything you just said relate to knowingly and willingly consenting to incestuous relationships and purposefully permanently damaging your children in the process? Your “passionate” and unrelated reply seems to me that you are either a product of incest or practice it. I’m sorry for you and your family,
the boy crying out in the beginning absolutely broke my heart.he’s suffering so much because of his *own* parents selfish choices and he doesn’t know why
Apparently he just lost his sight. So her angry..
I don't think they let them choices to get marry each other. Mostly it's forced or arranged marriage
i agree. I hope you'll feel this way about the people who give birth knowing their kids have a 50/50 chance of inheriting their disorders- regardless of who they marry/breed with. It seems like premeditated physical damage/abuse to me.
What broke my heart was the boy at the end realising that his Mum made a huge mistake
Not his parents
Bit his grandparents and great grandparents
My parents are from South India. My mum comes from a small town. Some time ago, she told me that her mother, my grandmother, never forgave her for not marrying me to my first cousin. Thankfully, my mum is well-read and well-travelled, so she never even entertained the idea. I was so grossed out when she told me about this. My cousin is a good decade younger than me and I used to carry them around and hand-feed them when they were a baby.
Lie it's not an Indian practice until you are a muslim
In sanatan dharm or for you Hinduism they practice not to marry in family
@@rachnagupta789 nice joke
idk about south india but in north you absolutely don't marry your cousin or someone from your village or someone in the same gotra as you.@@Bansheee-p5o
@@Bansheee-p5o interesting. In my community we check upto 7 generations for common ancestor along with patrika as a tradition so I always thought it was same across India
I am a child of incest. My mother married her nephew and gave birth to me. I was fortunate that I had no mental or physical abnormalities. What this did to me mentally has been difficult. I am 60 years old, but this is still a stigma I deal with.
You don't have to feel bad as long as you are healthy.
I'm surprised to learn that children of incest face stigma in your culture. Anyway, not your sin.
@@gokuldastvm I think it's not about sin or guilt. A kid surrounded by the regular family ties experiences the world and grows up differently than a person who grows up in a disordered surroundings. Just imagine, your dad is your cousin, that implies a lot of things. So although I wish all the best for the person who was born in such circumstances and I believe you are a person you've become in your life, others should beware and avoid things like that. Marry people who are not your relatives, period.
@@GSungaila I meant 'sin' as in 'it's not your fault and nothing you should be ashamed of'. I am just curious about what happens in other cultures under these circumstances. I'm from a culture where first cousin marriages are acceptable, but rarely followed among the last few generations. People realized the dangers and parted with that tradition. But it still isn't a taboo.
Praise god you are healthy but please always keep in your mind it was no fault of yours..if you have resentment in your heart let it go....forgive an forget.
Not only is incest completely disgusting but I think that it’s child abuse that they keep producing offspring knowing the circumstances. They should be prosecuted.
Are you dumb? Doctors do a check usually when cousin marry, check it out.
@@eliza1826 did you even watch this video? You're the dumb one
thisbitch 123 😂😂😂
Amaree Henderson well said!
Your right you should write a letter to the royal family with your opinions they know all about incest !!
The first guy just broke my heart, he has to suffer because his parents who are first cousins are just selfish and gross. But it's not just him suffering I feel sorry for all these children that go threw this
And the fact that his parents have no remorse over the sufferings of their children that they are just proud to be together it completely disgust me! I swear some people don’t deserve to have children
That too have 6 children. This is more than religion it's education balance these people need
Although I severely disagree with this, I feel for these people because this practice is all they have ever known. It's ignorance mixed with neglegance to the extreme. How awful.
@@JaelWasFramed nah, I'm done being nice about it all.
They should question it and seek knowledge, or be put down like rabid animals. Like their "traditions".
Gross is your perception of it. Who are you to pass judgment? Must be Christian
When the mom said her children’s disease was the fault of the doctors it just made me sad. That’s strong denial, and I’m sure it’s reinforced by other members of the family. It would be difficult to accept that declining health in your kids is due to a choice you made, especially when you had no knowledge of it when you made that choice (as I assume she didn’t). I do hope someday she can accept it and I wish her luck in caring for her children
They wouldn't receive any of the services given by the NHS if they stayed in Pakistan.
We don't need the West's opinion of and propaganda against our native religious culture.
And she was so unnatural about 😂
The mother blaming the NHS, makes me mad. The government really needs to increase their education to the community as the children are in a living nightmare. Moreover, the costs for the British taxpayers is a burden.
It's her fault, not theirs
Yet she blames anyone but herself! The victims of her choices, the kids, deserve better parents genetically and socially. Smh what a bad person she is
“It gives me so much pain” but you keep have sexual intercourse and having babies after knowing the odds are high. I feel absolutely horrible for the kids and how they are devastated that they can’t do normal things.
That's what I thought she had 3 kids with disabilities but had to have a 4th makes no sense shows how little she really cares.
you can always consider that the baby making isn't something she wants..... men like this usually just want a big family with many children, so stop assuming that maybe she wanted that
@@420bb Its not that they dont care, they just have absolutely no knowledge, and most believe thats not what is causing it. The government and a lot of religious leaders are against teaching about the consequences. hopefully this post will start opening a lot of eyes.
@@Stormiedays having the first child that was disabled was probably enough of a sign especially considering doctor visits and treatments tend to be very educational towards the condition, so how'd they not know nd have other kids
You need to take into account that this woman is uneducated and does not know how genetics works. She obviously is suffering seeing her children in so much pain, but she does not understand what caused it
That teenage boy crying is absolutely breaking my heart. He knows he is suppose to be more. Dear God.. give him peace in his mind.
ik it made me cry
AquaStar i know. God bless all of them.
The sad part of the story, tax payer is the one suffered. Poor kids. They r the one pay for thier parents decision. Bad bad.
AquaStar please make their minds and body whole, thank you.
It breaks my heart and i often see this walking around in Astoria and it makes me so sad for them. It can happen to anyone, children born with disabilities, but when first cousins marry, they are risking this happening do to inbreeding. So sad.
The fact that she had one child and saw how he turned out but kept having more boiled my blood.
In Indonesia there are many marriages between first cousins. Like where I live in Riau province. Thank God their children grow healthy and smart. Only God knows human destiny 🙏
If she won't have more babies, how are they going to take over UK?
@@abhijeetkundu2271 You do know that their are other people willing to not marry their cousins who can make kids with no defects
@@abhijeetkundu2271 lmfao
@@robben896 GRRM took so many inspirations from real life events. The politics in Ice & Fire is very accurate.
You see your son WAILING in agony and you continue to have more children?!
This isn't just marrying first cousins, this is a LONG LINEAGE of first cousins marrying first cousins marrying first cousins marrying first cousins marrying first cousins for thousands of years. This is the result.
first intelligent comment
I dont understand their mind set.
Everybody is cousins!
Yes, but when does it stop..... They keep going after generations regardless of the outcome.
@@llow261 yeah, unfortunately, it's lack of education that is causing this.
I feel bad for Mohsin and his sisters. His parents seem to be proud to be married to one another and have not showed one ounce of shame, guilt, nor empathy for their disabled children. That is so wrong on so many levels.
It's probably because they don't understand it's their infest that has caused this
For how long have you been observing there expressions towards thier own kids?
@@Rakan7areth That’s what I like to know
Fr the mom says she worries for them and such but she had to have known her kids would turn out like this. I'm sure her neighbors have kids with disabilities too because it's popular in the area to marry 1st cousins. To me it comes off as a mother who cares more about her religion than her own breathing children. The fact her first 3 children have disabilities and she kept having them shows how little she cares for them.
@@Rakan7areth she shifts the blame to the much more well educated doctors. She doesn't care, scribbles...
The last guy with glasses is a star. He has a condition himself but is speaking out against cousins marrying. You can tell he's a good kid.
I was going to say the same what a sweet special boy. I’m sad he has to suffer
@@zoebowler5664 I’m sure you suffer more with that orange man face
Yes, he is! I wish that there was an update.
well when cousin marriage did that to him hes obviously going to be against it
Yep
Stop marrying your cousins!! What a drain on the hospitals for something that is preventable!
Not if you’re childfree
I'm a Malaysian Pakistani and I have to say, this culture is still very prevelant in our society (the one in my country at least) and encouraged. I know a lot of relatives who were either married their first or second cousin. I'm not married, so the uncles and aunties would say "I can find you someone, I have relatives etc". I'm like no thank you, the world is so vast so I'm going to explore out of my circle thank you.
@ciao bella good for you. I'd imagine the family reunions are a abit awkward and uncomfortable? 😅
God says NO
At least you have enough cognizant intelligence to understand that you can seriously harm offspring by doing so. You are intelligent AND intelligent enough to know that this is wrong. I know it’s a societal matter but I think something inside of our biological
make-up tells us that there are enough people that we do not need to reproduce with our relatives because of our close DNA. God bless you. I hope you are doing well in life and best of luck to you and everything you do.
Marry me pls. I know I that I am a mere insect, but theres so much more if given the chance.
Why would that be encouraged
This is such a common practice here in Pakistan. All the people in my entire village are related to one another by two or three relations. It's very complicated. So many children here have issues like this. I'm glad my grandfather, my father and us siblings married outside our family. A lot of our family members were mad at us for not marrying their kids...but having educated parents helped us avoid all this.
Praise God for that Wisdom...if i were you i would leave that place
Alhamdulillah.
Very Sad
@@adriennerobinson1180 I agree. I couldn’t imagine.
Good thing that soon enough they’ll marry themselves into non existence
I love how some people in this video are like "Well I had a brother who married his cousin and their children were fine."
Well so what? Not everyone who smokes tobacco will get cancer. It doesn't mean smoking is healthy.
Actually the first one or two generations of first cousin marriages would not have much issue... But you have to consider how these communities repeatedly marry within the family causing deformities such as the ones shown
Marrying your first cousin is not a health practice And the repercussion are serious . It is fortunate that your brother children had no health problems . But why runs the risk there are other women in this world that you had to marry your own cousin .
A lot of people do not understand probability. They perceive statements about statistical likelihood as being about deterministic causation, so they think that individual cases can disprove such statements. It is at root a result of inadequate education in math
You know, the parents who have these children are additionally embarrassed because it is claimed that God punishes them. or it is displaced because it is said to be God's will.
TheStapleGunKid plus with all the forced marriages with in families it just keeps that one blood line going and with every new generation things probably keep mutating. Or just the fact that it becomes more and more likely that birth defects or abnormalities will show up causing pain.
The mother blaming the doctors for a genetic disease is crazy.
Islam. Should've blame the Jews. I am surprised 😂
@@SereneReneealla teaches that soooo
Expecting reason from an arab is insane
Arabians are retarded that's why
Marrying your first cousin in the Middle East is still heavily practiced. My dad tried to marry me off to my cousin many times, the only way I got out of it is because I live in the United States.
Thanos I’m American born. Idiot
@@haileyatyani4635 My parents are Pakistani I was born here in America and I don't believe in inbreeding it's just wrong so someone should let Royal families know this .
@@aliabouelhamed2004 will you ever come back to WWE?🤣 Sorry I had too.
You're beautiful Hailey
Lucky you.
As someone who hails from a family that maintains strong ties to our culture, I cannot say this enough or loud enough:
Just because it's culture/tradition, that does not (and I stress this word) NOT mean that it is right.
Culture can be wrong. Very very wrong.
Let me say this again: Culture. Can. Be. Wrong.
Thank you for coming to my talk.
Also, shout out to the Auntie at 26:57 , calling for a serious discussion in regards to the suffering of the next generation.
True, cultural acceptance is not accepting the unacceptable ^^ you’ve got child marriages and bride kidnappings in various cultures that although are historical and part of tradition, it’s definitely not morally or ethically right.
Some cultures are better than others
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
- Gautama Buddha
You can see the women want it to be looked at, and stopped. But the men seem fine with it in that group.
Preach it! 👏
The fact that the parents can sit here with a bold face lie and say it’s not genetics 🧬 what happening to their kids is just insane. The fact that you would even want to risk your future child’s health is unthinkable
They are in denial
Stop letting the people in western countries. They are a drain on tax payers.
Thank you!
Their parents are incest loving creatures 😂😂😂
Anyone that selfish doesn't deserve to be a parent.
Arranged marriage to my cousin almost happened when I was a little girl, I’m so happy my parents never went through with it
Medieval behaviour
Why do u guys do this tho?
It's breaks my heart to know that the reporter who made this documentary passed away. Hopefully her work will survive her and benefit the Pakistan community of England. Hopefully they (and anybody from any background really) will watch this before considering having children born of inbreeding.
RIP Tazeen Ahmad.
That’s sad. When did she die, what happened?
@@spiralrose a cancer, in late 2019.
Thats so sad may she rest in peace
Omg so sad
What?!!
The fact that she has one child and he turns out like that and then she has the balls to keep getting more is just sickening.
Remember it's not only her fault even her HUSBANDS fault
Their attitude is maybe the next one will be healthy. Kind of like those idiots who want a boy so end up having 6 girls and try for a 7th hoping it's a boy.
It’s the lack of knowledge they may had. They simply didn’t know it was bad, so they hoped the next would be healthy.
@@meijenn2578 This totally might be a case but on the other hand, you can't just "hope it would be better next time" WHEN IT'S ABOUT CHILD'S LIFE. It's not like they're planting a new tree and can be like "well this one may have fruit" it's like bro how can they be so ignorant ... I'm not even hard core judging, I'm just saying how it is lol (poor children tho)
what do u mean 'like that' you say it like its the kids fault.
These cases happen not because they married a first cousin, but because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and great, great grandparents were also cousins.
Exactly. It goes so far back they have no chance
Yep I know white British people who have married their first cousins. Luckily it is only for one generation.
Vicious cycle
@@MsPeabody1231 it happened a lot in middle ages britain but it stopped here we are in the 21th century and somes people still do those thing
True. In most cousin marriage in which their older generation were not related, the kids are absolutely fine! Not saying I'd do it, but there should be clarification.
While the epidemic of cousin marriages is an important issue, I just wanted to say rest in piece to Tazeen Ahmad, who died back in 2019 of cancer. She was the reporter in this documentary. I hope you are in a better place now. :(
Anybody else kinda furious at the parents and they keep blaming medicine and crap on why their kids are messed up like just own up to it
Yes... Watching that was irritating
Messed up thing is
How they have to suffer due to things done by Religious practices of Islam..
Wtf...Seeing him cry...makes me cry...
@Muslim4Life84
Another liar
Taqiya expert
Mohammad married his 1st cousin zainab..half of the muslim world inbreeds...go look up some stats..
Liar
Right. They should not visit doctors and see for themselves maybe they won't have anyone else to blame! I also had a friend who married her cousin and they blame the doctors for their abnormal babies instead of owning up to their incest relationship.
well, it’s not really the parents’ fault, because apparently they didn’t have a convenient education, and also because their parents are the ones who arrange marriages
I remember something which happened in my neighbourhood in kerala, India. There was a muslim girl , full of life studying MBBs, loved a non muslim guy . Family came to know and forcibly married to her first cousin. The cousin is not a bad guy either. but the child she had with her cousin, was having genetic problems . Now ,the girl who had to abandon her studies at marriage , was taking care her child 24/7. Every time , I see her; I imagine , how her life would have been . She would have been a successful doctor with healthy kid , if she had married her lover . Now she looks like a Skelton of her formerself. The irony is that her father is a medical doctor.
This traditition exists in kerala??? , Malayali ?
So sad
Poor girl i wish she could be saved
@@Ben._.41 it exists among most South Asian Muslims, there is a muslim village in bulandshahar district of uttar pradesh , it is said that no wedding procession has ever come from outside in that village, they just keep marrying their first/second cousins and inbred children are born
@@pranav8423 I don't think it's a Muslim or religious thing, more cultural. There are many Muslims around the world yet I've only seen this practice in south asian culture.
They don’t just marry cousins once. They have many blood relatives in their family line over generations and they don’t marry outside of their local towns or ethnic backgrounds. Very dangerous.
If you want to prevent cousin marriage you'll need to update the Quran and the Hadith first - good luck!
@@curryandapint I’m not interested in stopping anyone. I think people should be educated on the risks of continuous cousin marriage and only within the tribes. It’s a cultural practice that occurs in certain regions. For example, it’s not as common in Muslim countries like Morocco or Indonesia.
@@curryandapint A lot of Orthodox Jews face the same issues since they have a smaller choice of marital partners within their communities.
@@curryandapint = *THANK YOU*
But idiots that BELIEVE something is sooooooo important and soooooooo sacred should be practiced after 1999 is beyond me. BEYOND PITIFUL
@@curryandapint Ibn Abi Mulaykah reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said to the house of Al-Sa’ib, “You have become frail, so marry intelligent people unrelated to you.”
Al-Shafi’i said, “Whenever the people of a household do not allow their women to marry men outside of their line, there will be fools among their children.”
Source: al-Talkhīṣ al-Ḥabīr 1371
Lol u d!ckh3d this 👆🏾 is literally what the people are doing in the vid. No need to update Quran and Hadith
I grew up in a orphanage, but I had one caregiver who insisted on teaching us to search and make sure we do not marry our relatives. To look into our family's history and avoid the concequnes of having disabled children's . I had to conquered lots of things and fear, to ensure that strangers I might fall in love are not biological related to me. And this women is asking her doctors and says is fine .it's horrible.
"It was the doctors medicine that did this. My kids were absolutely normal". Just stellar reasoning there. My mother has just retired from a life of maternity nursing and the level of abusive ignorance frequently received by hospital staff from these "parents" adds yet more disgust to their actions.
Just like the mumbling, drooling morons in the USA claiming that vaccines cause their kids to have autism or other problems.A huge chunk of the human population of Earth really are too stupid to live.
@@koolaidman6251 OMG if you think western medicine doesn’t make mistakes you’ve lost your mind if you had one in the first place 🤦♂️
@@koolaidman6251 agreed. Too many retards
@@ryand4533 wait, do you think vaccines cause autism?
@@stalinbeballin I think a lot of things cause autism. In some cases yes the vaccines people take can be the straw that breaks that camels back.
The boy moaning in the beginning is so damn heartbreaking
Enz Di Cristofaro my goodness,you couldn’t have described it any better..I’m so sad
Enz Di Cristofaro his parents are quite defensive!
Exactly TNLY T!
I find it hilarious
ikr
im a muslim. im so glad my mother taught us at very young age to not practice the first cousin marriage
Wdym by 1st cousin
I mean it's still as disgusting to marry even cousin of any generation cause they r supposed to be ur siblings not partners
@@anuraggautam8976 the more it goes down the less dna you share. Some people marry their like 3rd cousin and don’t even know they’re family
@@MaryJane-tp3qd not knowing is 1 but as soon as you know it u should stop it its just not right
@@snmalki2363 The genetics you share with your third cousin is miniscule, as it means you share a set of great great grandparents. You share about 0.075% of DNA on average. They've done studies on best friends, and they are statistically as related as about 4th cousins based on how much DNA they share on average. This makes sense when we more often than not befriend people who tend to look more like us and act like us. And if you go to some parts of the world where people are ethnically less diverse, they often share more DNA with each other than your average stranger. (Like Ashkenazi Jews, Japanese, etc.) In these situations people might not even be actual cousins, but because of the smaller genetic group, they share as much DNA as a distant relative would.
There really is no moral argument to be made about it at that point, because most 3rd cousins don't even know each other (as a single generation is about 25 years, so from the birth of your great great grandparents all the way until the birth of you is roughly 100 years) so the familiarity isn't there, and the genetic risk just isn't there unless your family regularly practices incest and have been doing it for generations lol.
@@sweetkittykat2000 didnt bother reading al that but i guess you are saying in a sence were all related. That sounds like someone who is practicing this behavior
I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in my 20s and have battled major depression most of my life. My first panic attack was at 4 and my first attempt to self harm at 12. I decided not to have children because I couldn't even possibly subject my child to the anguish I have suffered. It's hard for me to understand how anyone could make these choices given such odds.
I also have Type 1 bipolar. I had increasingly severe symptoms from early childhood into adulthood. I had my son at 24, but wasn’t diagnosed until I was 29.
My son’s bipolar symptoms surfaced in his freshman year of high school with his first psychotic episode. He’s now 26 and struggles mightily with his disorder.
I swear with every breath in my body that if I had known that I had such a horrible illness which could be passed genetically to my child, I NEVER would have had a child. I never, EVER would knowingly subject my child to a life of such suffering.
I didn’t know that mental illnesses can be genetically inherited. I always thought they’re a result of external environmental influences
Thank you for being sensible. Anytime I bring this option up in my adhd and autism groups they act like my decisions to not have kids and my suggestion that they should carefully consider the kids health risks is akin to gen*cide. I'm like it's just being sensible. And legitimately a form of being a good mother. By not having them or putting your kids through that. Can't tell you how many times I'm attacked for this opinion.
My mother has bipolar but was not diagnosed until her 70's. It previously seemed like chronic depression. Neither me nor my sister have the disorder, but my mother really should not have had children. She was not able to be a mother, the way a mother should be. She was often hospitalized, and not really able to take an active role in our lives. She suffered from overwhelming anxiety, and we often had to care for her. This put a huge burden on very young children and on my father.
Bless you. May your burden be lightened.
That boy in the beginning, crying out in agony breaks my heart....
It's supposed to it's good TV
I felt so sorry for that boy and the two sisters, even the boy taking so much medication.
@@matildamaher2650 People who want to rule the world always bring about their own destruction.
Omg broke my heart too bless him im sure he was crying help me poor soul someone must help him
Meanwhile the parents:
iT wAs tHe dOcToRs aNd mEdIcAtIoN’s fAuLt.
I'm Canadian and my parents lied and they are 1st cousins. The disabilities and struggles I had and still do in not fair! I think its disgusting and not right as the kids suffer!
Im sorry. My parents arent cousins but have the ssme bad mutation that I inherited from both of them. It sucks. No one should be born on this planet to suffer.
😢😢😢😔😔
Damn poor you
Misinformation because Christians dont marriage with cousins because of their religion and Muslims do that is why they do propaganda against Muslims.
You lyin looking for attention
They need to stop doing this ,stop bringing innocent kids into this world to suffer
@Juicelad Who gets to decide what traits are acceptable and which are not? The government? There is a reason eugenics was discredited as unscientific and racially biased.
Dr. Motulsky said medical geneticists had known for a long time that there was little or no harm in cousins marrying and having children. ''Somehow, this hasn't become general knowledge,'' even among doctors, he said.
Although the increase represents a near doubling of the risk, the result is still not considered large enough to discourage cousins from having children, said Dr. Arno Motulsky, a professor emeritus of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington, and the senior author of the report. www.nytimes.com/2002/04/04/us/few-risks-seen-to-the-children-of-1st-cousins.html#:~:text=They%20say%20there%20is%20no,people%20think%2C%20the%20scientists%20said.
@Juicelad doctor =/= geneticist, if you actually did research on the subject you would know many hold the same opinion. but i highly doubt you actually read the study
@Juicelad Cool, nice ad hominem attack. Anyways, sorry I'm not a mind reader and didn't know what "I'm not talking about," and what "I'm talking about." Ill have to work on my mentalism training a bit. Maybe you should explain these things when you are using such a loaded word.
@@darkorangesupercar743 there's always apologists and junk science. But Motulsky's observation might be correct, "only" a doubling of risk for otherwise unrelated first cousins. Problem is that there's often a lot of pre-existing inbreeding in those cultures, which means the inbreeding ratio can be closer to that of siblings than of first cousins. Also, there are other major problems with cousin marriage, such as that clan mentalities and clan relations are cemented, leading to more corruption and crime. And also, of course, that we should move away from arranged marriages, dowrys and all that junk.
this is a cultural/educational issue that needs to be addressed.....the tax burden should also be discussed.....horrific for these poor children
My grandma once suggested to my parents that I marry my cousin, my parents immediately shut her down and I learned about it later and I was furious. Can't believe people still have this kind of thought process in this day and age.
Truth Indeed AMEN
Why it has to be a cousin though? What part of the culture that actually drive this kind of thought?
From comments I’m reading, it seems the newer generations are starting to break the cycle. I’m sorry that almost happened to you, and I’m happy your parents were there to stick up for you.
@@albertp3721 keeping the blood pure type of thing, its disease that's called tribalism, every tribe thinks they're better than the other and every family thinks they're better than the other.
Wow I salute you're parents
A law must be implemented -NO MARRIAGE BETWEEN COUSINS.
Cousins of WHAT degree?
@@jenningsrountree8304 ,In my country fourth generation. They must ask you if you are related familiar.
@@jenningsrountree8304 ,My family live on a private property for sanctuaries,I have cousins maybe fourth generation living next door and I see them as my brothers. When you breed domestic animals you always take one who is not related to have good breed. A shark from South Africa is swimming to Australia for breeding with a not related female or male.Sometimes animals are more knowledgeable than we humans.
By fourth generation, I assume you mean 3rd cousins (great grandparents being siblings). If all generations were full siblings (rather than half), that would mean 1/4 common ancestry although only 1/4 common POSSIBLE genes - probably less By chance. In livestock, linebreeding (even parent-child, but not siblings) is supposed to be okay. In humans that would be pretty weird.
Some of these families are marrying brothers and sisters.
I grew up in Toronto. The most multicultural city in the world. I have lived in different areas in the city. I lived in a predominantly brown part of the city (Pakistanis, Afghans ) and I have never seen so many mentally handicapped children in my life.
Preach
Afghans arent brown btw. They are fair/light skinned. And some are olive skinned/tanned. Theres a difference. And yes I visited Pakistan and there were so many disabled kids everywhere. It was just sad to see.
I'm near Toronto, I've seen it with refugees here too. They want to blame god when they know they have these illnesses in the family. Some of them make a fortune of odsp for their kids, never spend a cent on them, and send the money back home. This is Trudeau's wave of immigrants
I grew up in Toronto too and I personally haven’t seen it myself. That being said I’m sure it’s very real. Also, my parents are first cousins (family are west African Muslims) and not only that my dad 15+ years older than my mom, she was promised to him at birth. To add to that my youngest brother is severely autistic (has made our lives a million times harder and I feel bad for him) and was born when my dad was 54. I’m sure this all played a huge part.
It really upsets me that they’re related and I try not to think about it all 😭💔😢
@@Oyjsf Afghans are brown as in they aren't white or black
The mother blames doctors? Wow, such ignorance.
Beyond Infinity What a hateful thing to say.
Is the doctor British? That's why! They hate the British
PerrinLogainKadanFan
Someone will inevitably bring up vaccines. Any bets?
yeah bloody well living over here though
no it is not it is called the truth should not be over here
I'd rather die than marrying my cousin or brother. It's gross 🤮🤮🤮
wtf brother? ?
Fur Fighter same here
It's just incest
Brother? Dafuq
That's islam for you! Filthy and backward!
They say the “advantages” of marrying their cousins is that they’ll be there for each other and spend more time together... but you can do the same thing with someone that isn’t a blood relative. This is messed up.
Anna Alba cousins are not as closely related to u like ur mother or brother or sister u only share like 20% dna with your cousins
They are uneducated obviously .... having 3 kids with that disease
@Artemis Fowl Brothers and sisters? Why are you lying lol
@@fazesw2343 These people share more than 20% of their DNA because they've been practicing cousin marriage for generations. That's why they're having so many problems.
@Artemis Fowl This has nothing to do with Islamic teachings. Islam doesn't tell them they should marry their cousins, and it's forbidden to marry siblings. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.
“You shouldnt marry your cousin”
YoU’Re AtTAcKInG mY CuLTuRE.
@ClarenceBoddicker87and yet so many of the same people who get defensive when “westerners” point out clear cultural issues in certain parts of the world are the quickest to talk about the “degenerate culture” of the West. The double-standard is unfathomable. Every culture has social issues, pointing them out isn’t racism it’s being socially aware if anything..
If that’s they believe in, just leave them alone, simple.
@alexanderpapii4866 not if children are suffering from disease because of it. Cultures are cool but promoting harmful behavior is unacceptable I think sometimes people hide behind culture as a excuse to do horrible things.
@@alexanderpapii4866It's costing the NHS millions. It's wrong. Simple.
A marriage between cousins can happen once, likely with no consequences, but you cannot keep doing it generation after generation. These children are the product of generations of "inbreeding".
Exactly! I know cousins that married and their kids were fine.
You just can't do it for generations.
Its a generational issue that islam disagrees not single cases.
Even in one generation there is a lot of risk....
Shailesh Kumar not really
Why don't siblings just marry two men/women who themselves are cousins? Their families can then still be super close.
This is just heartbreaking to see how that poor boy is affected because of people's distorted stupidity. Absolutely cruel.
It's always an ignorant adult causing problems.
Exactly
Just go to any special school and you will see the effects, so sad
It's incredulous that come of the people in that group meeting want a "general mandate" but not one to address this community. The general British population is not marrying their cousins. The people in this discussion group are being ridiculous and refuse to address medical facts.
Pegasus vs Two Cylon Baseships - Battlestar Galactica 1978
20:51 made me physically face-palm, "my brother married his sister and their children are fine, the doctor's medicine made them sick" is literally the most frustratingly misinformed bullshit I've heard. The ignorance is just astonishing.
Seriously who does that
Think said, his brother married wife’s sister, so sister in law. I know what difference really🤷🏻♀️✌🏽
@@othersbyuri seriously this is hideous
that doctor is seriously lucky he works in the uk,
in india, the doc wouldve lost their life
litterally hear news everyday,
"oooo that doc knows squat lets beat him up and go to a local doctor" (a focking quack mind you)
like bruv we didnt study 10yrs to be beaten up by random people who ask for our services
edit: never mind apparently doctors in uk are better, the doctor in pak, RIP brother
what brother and sister. maried each other OMG
I have two first cousins who were happily married until his natural death. Before marriage, he had a vasectomy to avoid having a biological child. Instead, they adopted their children.
Still weird but hey at least kids weren't dragged into it. At least biological children anyway
Why would one get a vasectomy willingly😬
@@Ik-mr5ru because they don't want kids?
@@Ik-mr5ru when men do not want children, they should have vasectomies done
I feel so bad. They cannot communicate their needs. Incest should be considered a felony crime!
Right. The dude near the end why are we being targeted. Because the rest of us have acknowledged 1st cousin marriage is not ok.
the prince of Dubai just married his cousin
In Saudi you have to take a test in the hospital and prove safe before marrying a cousin so that these things don't happen
Fatima ALsinan even if it tested these stuff should never happen you shouldn’t marry someone you share blood with , some conditions can’t be determined by medical tests at hospitals most kids who are from cousins get fertility problems
In America it's very illegal, except for like 2 southern states
I used to have an online friend I met on a video game. She was like a sister and we would play video games together, and bonded over nerdy stuff like anime and art. One day she confessed to me that she was worried she’d have to get married to her cousin. She was around 14 at this time. We’ve drifted apart and we don’t talk anymore. Not a day goes by where I don’t think of her.
I hope she wasn't forced into marriage, especially to a close family member like her cousin. ☹️
I mean you know you can talk to her right? The way you wrote your comment implies that you still have the means to.
@@chupacabra9357 yeah he should check her out for real... we meet people for a reason, always.
@@rubyh.369 hope so 🙏
I hope she's fine
That she blamed the doctor really made me angry... When they were warned of the damage that they could cause by cousins marrying.
Yes they both refuse to acknowledge its their fault.
Asians have a cultural need to "save face." Deep down, they may know or understand but just cannot admit to it. Sometimes though, it is just through sheer lack of education - it's "what we've always done" and they have no wish to change their way of life. It's also not just about family blood ties either, as it often involves the keeping of land, houses, animals etc. within the family.
But the doctors still allow it. They Warn peopl but at the end people d’évidé for theirselves that’s the issue
@@user-DailyTuber the doctor can't stop these people from having s*x in their own homes.
That made my blood boil. The refusal to accept science and plain statistics and instead _blame the doctors_ is just cruel to the kids.
The cost of this to the British public is astronomical.
My thoughts too. The parents' disregard for the NHS irritated me.
@@indigocheetah4172it’s not just the NHS, it’s all health and social care services. They would need to attend special school, have public funded transport to school, disability allowance, carers allowance, disability car for the family etc. The cost for this family alone is astronomical!
Which is sad because the west is being dragged down, not moving forward because of these 7th century people
@@TinyBewPuppy, you're right.
The cost to the children suffering is higher 😢
Last time I went back home to Afghanistan, my cousin passed away because of this. His parents were first cousins and both their parents were also first cousins. A couple years ago my cousin feet stopped working, he couldn’t walk. His last few days, he couldn’t function at all. He couldn’t eat, drink or even breathe. It was heartbreaking to see an innocent little boy suffer like that and yet, nobody learned their lesson. They have and will continue to inbreed despite seeing the consequences right in front of their eyes.
@Ta_Ar 45 there is a difference between regular cases and eventual cases
So why do this continues to happen I wouldn’t want to look at my cousins like that sexual
@@jadebuckner5620from what I know, a lot of people choose to marry their cousins because since they are family, there won’t be as many issues in their marriage and it’s easier because they’ve known that person since childhood
Because our people also do jadoo in each other which is against d deen. Then u have those who have forsaken other knowledge like eclipse and addad of names. Follow that and we will c decline regardless of cousin marriages. Otherwise explain how non related people also have disabled kids? Statistics would b same
Glad you get it, God bless the children and condemn the parents.
Just know people, when your parents put pressure on you and subject you to emotional blackmail, they will NOT be in the picture with you when you end up with children having disabilities. This will be your own struggle alone, you will never see them flourish or get married. This really is your own life and such parents/families should be ashamed of themselves.
Exactely
Fatima-You write as though you are speaking from personal experience. If so, I am truly sorry.
Just throw out allah and his paedphile, out of your life.. Then wake up and smell the coffee
@@andreabennington not at all but I have witnessed it unfortunately… thank you
@@zky10 sorry to hear that! This type of mental blackmailing is very common in the desi community… the only hope for change is our children….
When living in Bahrain, it was heart-breaking for me when my daughter's best friend was yanked out of school at age 13 to marry some old man in Pakistan. The headmaster tried his best, begging the father to let her finish her education and was met with a violent, spitting man, outraged that someone would stick their nose into marrying off a CHILD. It's going to take several generations and unfortunately, several dead or defective children before they begin to learn their lesson.
Several and several more 🥴🥺🤮🤬☠🤡🙈🙉🙊 history will always repeat itself, until er all learn. Can take 3 generasjons, but it will be better, later than soon 😮🤐🙈🙉🙊
Pardon my bad english, hopes for everyones understanding 😮🤓🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🍀
Bahrain, dont the kings sheikh marry young girls?
Og they ever learn 👹👧👴🏼 it's disgusting and I swear I'll kill myself the first night 😶😑😥😮🤐💣💥
I don’t think people will ever understand, has been here for decades , centuries ..
There are 8 billion people on Earth and some still marry their family members...
But how would they hoard the wealth?
@@stantorren4400 You look at these people and think they hoard wealth? 😂 What wealth!
@@YuBeace That’s half the reason they marry their first cousins
“Stupid is as stupid does”, I really feel sorry for these children, but as long as their parents are stuck in the Middle Ages, there is probably nothing society can do, as long as politicians do not dare to legislate about it.
They should prosecute every damn couple who gets married and or trie to get children as relatives. It should be seen a s a horrific crime because u will purposly put a child on the earth who will suffer from day one to his last day. Its horrific
@@ResonNL sign an agreement before the marriage, to take full financial responsibility for any children that result. They may not respond to scientific evidence, but fi ancial accountability might hit the target .
Governments are afraid to say anything as they may get called racist, spineless.
Why doesn't the British government crack down on things like this in their own country!
@Andrew Mitchell did you not watch the video? NO politician, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH will even bring it up because they are afraid they will be branded a racist and their career will be cancelled by tomorrow
Tazeen Ahmad...I wasn’t sure where to leave a tribute. I want to thank you for the documentaries, and especially the talk that I attended of yours, at the School of Life in London. That talk was about understanding introverts and extroverts, and it helped me a lot. Rest in peace.
Wait, what happened? :(
💔💔💔💔 sheesh and I just found this lady
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this! I was just about to comment that she is a wonderful, skillful journalist and my respects to her for reporting/interviewing on such a difficult topic. I wish she could have lived a long life :(
How did she die
@@sharnelledebysingh1591 cancer 😢
"Why wouldn't you want to marry your cousin? You know the family!" Yeah bruh that's the problem lmfao
😂😂😂
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Cause it's disgusting?🤔
its to keep the head count down at the wedding
bc islam
This is just heartbreaking, poor kids suffering because adults can't let go of their outdated customs. Marrying closely related relatives has no place in our civilised society, the human cost is huge, and the financial cost to the state is also huge
My mother and father are first cousins. I was trying so hard not to cry during this video because it relates to how many mental and physical problems my siblings and I have. They're not as severe as the ones in the video, but it's made me angry and upset for years my parents got married and had kids. I just hope that the future generations of cultures that practice this marry outside of the family. It's disgusting.
Wow :(
May I ask how this has affected your relationship with your parents if at all?
@@asucena5575 well I've definitely been upset with them ever since but, both my parents are divorced. I live with my mother currently but they've both been horrible parents, abusive etc. Not very related to the incest but still, I think if my parents weren't related, they may have loved each other and given my siblings and I a better life.
@@crystvlone4881 same, i have so much resentment towards them bc of this and the issues I have to deal with because of them
@@znbxawr same! There are days I get upset that I could've been a healthy person, someone who didn't have to deal with all the mental and physical pain that they created. But I can't change the past so I'll live with what I got
This is what happens when you think that it's gonna keep a "pure bloodline" instead you just messing up these people's lives your kids lives. This incest needs to stop it's absolutely disgusting
Money, money money.
I agree
They obviously don’t care, people like to feel belonging because they don’t know themselves. Also they rather have then have not in material things because it gives them a sense of entitlement. In short they are FOLLOWERS masquerading as LEADERS!
I agree, this is not right. It is a disgusting practice that has gone on for far too long.
Even if there's a slight chance due to cousin marriage, why risk it? Because of the community? The community doesn't help anyone when you have children with such unfortunate disabilities!
That's a great point! Why let someone create a problem if they won't help fix it?
I know Samantha2130720, but anybody who makes such points in public is targetted for attacking a particular religious community and labeled as non-secular. It's not our fault in the first place that such a problem exists in a particular community.
It’s just gross...ick....like incest. Many states in the U.S. ban it. Texas and Oklahoma consider it a criminal offense. Surprised Britain doesn’t.
from what i understand cases like the documentary are possible but not so probable,i know some of my mother´s cousins got married and had 3 kid but all were fine, i´m unsure if is because in their line doesn´t have a predisposition of just they were lucky,
Maddog , it’s left to the states to set these rules, and each state is different. Someone could challenge it in the federal courts, but I don’t think they would win. Polygamy is illegal nationwide even though some religions consider it okay. Marriage between first degree relatives is definitely prohibited.
This is not only in this case. In Philippines (especially in Iloilo), cousin marriage are prevalent in the past. My aunt (my mom's cousin) is a product of parents who are first cousins. She seemed normal but when she reached 40s, she was hospitalized for unknown disease. For now, I am worried about what her fate would be. 😥
The Mother blaming the doctors for 3 of her kids being disabled instead of her choice of marrying her first cousin is just unbelievable. She should be thankful that the doctors and British tax payers are carrying the burden of looking after her whole family. Some people never want to take responsibility for their own stupid decisions.
That was beyond bizarre. My son has a genetic condition, cystic fibrosis. I am not related to his father in any way. It was completely out of the blue. He was our third and we did genetic counselling and informed our families.
I'm so thankful for the medical care my son has had in Australia to keep him alive. He's about to turn 21. Doctors have done nothing but help keep my son alive and I'm so thankful ❤️ Her kids would be dead already without medical intervention.
@@fionamackie3357 Hi Fiona, I am very sorry to hear about your son. I’m glad that you and your family are here in Australia and have the medical help available to you all. It’s what makes behaviour of others marrying their first cousins so infuriating, especially when they must know the risk now! There’s enough unlucky people like your son who was born with cystic fibrosis, through no fault of either you or your husband, or your son. But for others to marry their first cousins knowing the risk, and then to have multiple children with serious genetic disorders requiring millions in health care over their lives, it’s just infuriating. If everyone was to start marrying their first cousins (yuck in my opinion), the health system would collapse. I feel like this practice is extremely selfish by them. If they were back in Pakistan, their kids would be in serious trouble with little to no medical help. I wish your son and your family all the best, I’m so glad that Medicare and the NDIS are there to support you all. God bless you all ❤
has nothing to do with marrying a first cousin, biologically there should not be any problem with first cousins, it is a genetic issue.
@@lhl9010 keep telling yourself that then, but the statistics and the science don’t lie on this topic and it’s been well known for decades, if not longer! You raise the risk considerably of children having genetic defects by having offspring with a 1st cousin. Not to mention that most people find it quite repulsive! It’s also extremely unfair on the children being born with these issues that most likely wouldn’t have happened if the kids parents weren’t cousins.
@@lhl9010 go marry your first cousin and tell us how it goes!
I am so glad to say that my mom and dad completely refused to practice this tradition, it isn't religious but cultural. My cousin on the other hand got married with another cousin (it was a love marriage) and now they have a two year old who's extremely sensitive, falls sick almost every month and had to be kept in ICU for a MONTH just a few weeks ago. He has heart problems at this age. An aunt of mine proposed marriage with her son after I complete my studies, I politely declined whilst being absolutely disgusted, the world is big I am sure I can find myself a good guy that is not my cousin.
gross
Ick😟☹️
@Cutaebear Yes, you can!
It is religious, i have several marrying first cousins in my big family in Indonesia, but fortunately they have healthy children. I'm not saying marrying first cousin is the only right thing to do, but it's just an option for the cousins who are involved in. There are always risks & consequences, even in a non-cousins marriage.
How can you resist the temptation of having seriously compromised children? 🙄
Such marriages must be banned without any further delay.
If you create a petition I will sign.
@@sarahharris2729 So loving and touching reply Sarah.... 💜
well then what if people marry cousins overseas and their marriage is recognised in the uk and to what degree of relation should be prohibited just a question
@@buildgenius8773 Just don't allow such couples to enter in the country. They are making whole humanity sick.
I think amount Uk Pakistanis it’s reached a critical mass where cousins of cousins of their cousins have inter married poor kids in all this and the people as it seemed the parents agreed to it to be looked after better from what they said
This documentary shows that just because your religion allows something, doesn’t mean you necessarily should.
Islam doesnt even encourage it! Its looked down upon and even discouraged. Us pakistanis are just braindead cuz of our toxic culture.
@@OyjsfYou do know the prophet married his first cousin? They do it because their religion allows, and it’s an easy method of hoarding wealth
That's the thing though, this practice ISN'T religiously mandated.
@@johngayfer6873 Exactly
@@johngayfer6873 no not mandated but their interpretation means they can manipulate the words to allow the actions. It’s not a religious problem, its a regional problem that they use religious to justify. Same with honour killings.
So sad that children have to suffer abnormalities because of their parents
Tggtyuuii8i
*because of their parents' religion
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@@sapandeepsharma it’s a cultural thing too cause there are non Muslim who do it too
@@sapandeepsharma obviously it`s a cultural thing
"It's not high risk, 1 in 4"
That's what happens when you skip both Math and Biology class. Appalling
I think they don't understand the meaning of high or risk.
more like that's what happens when you know u dont have common sense
🤣🤣.Bomb making is more impotant.Chemistry!!
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You people have been living in a lie. They just show you a disabled children who's parents were cousins to prove that marrying 1st cousin can get u to this.
My man, come to Asia (Muslim countries) , it is common, and the kids are completely healthy. Actually, 99% of them or even more.
I'm one of them.
Unfortunately, this issue gains attention because they are living in the west. If they were in Pakistan, they just become statistics.
i think this would be considered normal
Actually I live and see soo many cousin marriages and such cases haven't happened before my eyes in my whole life. I don't know why.
if they were in pakistan that wouldn’t have happened only small amount when they see their families living western they’re chasing for them and plus the parents want it too to let them live in western so that it grow like someone u can trust just like documantry i have someone who is married with cousins they’re totally healthy theyre from 3d generation i was in denial but it was true they’re totally fine
@@admiralhyperspace0015 Are they first cousin marriages though?
@@admiralhyperspace0015 because babies with genetic disorders rarely survive past infancy in poor areas.
In many places in the US, it's illegal to marry your first cousin in order to reduce the occurrence of these rare genetic disorders.
Same as the UK but some cultures get away with it. They dont want to assimilate into our culture of the West.
The most terrible is not only marrying first cousins but after the first kid with issues they kept going on. It's incomprehensible.
Bro what would 3rd cousin offspring’s look like??
Being forced into marrying family is awful! They need to change their culture. These poor children suffering. just awful! Parents must be just plain stupid!
The risk is that in every pregnancy there is a 75% chance of a perfectly healthy pregnancy. The odds were still in their favour that a subsequent child could be healthy, and they never accepted it was genetic.. the mother stated she thought the medical treatment caused his health issues, it was degenerative, he was normal at one point. So they thought it wasn't because of their genes at that point, still don't, so why not have another child?? Sometimes Drs are wrong, some people can have it explained to them over and over again and they still lack the comprehension to understand complex scientific issues, to them 'gods will' was part of why it happened. Not everyone in the world willingly accepts the belief systems we have.. their traditions dominate their understanding of the world over science, and their religion even denies the scientific advances we have made over the last 100 yrs.
In a family that doesn't support artificial birth control for religious reasons it can be difficult to make these choices based on the rare illness in one child. Their next pregnancy was twins, and sadly both were affected. Gods will, fate, or genetic, without education and birth control its not as simple as the way a western family with access to genetic counselling and IVF services might approach things. It would be difficult for a family like to this to approach a Dr for answers to their son's issues, no one said when it presented, when a genetic issue was established..
This situation could happen in many families, those with multiple children born prior to an olders one's medical diagnosis.. would you condemn them too? *Issues' in one child do not mean that every future child will share identical genetics and the same concerns.
@@somewherehere424 there's always one
I went to school with a young pakastani woman who had married her first cousin, this is in 2005. They came to the west for him to work as a doctor. I told her about the genetic problems 1st cousin marriages can cause in their children & asked if she was not worried about that. Shockingly, she said he had assured her that there was absolutely no problem with genetic problems in offspring.
Honestly, this is common knowledge so having a medical doctor say this, is incredibly disturbing. Glad he wasn't my doctor.
But as this is a culturally accepted practice in some countries, esp. pakistan, means you risk being called anti- this & that. BS. It is almost abuse to future offspring. It is so sad 1st cousin marriages continues even with modern scientific knowledge of this.
Sad that even a Doctor doesn't get it.
@@rooder8827 All that matter to them is their belief. They're brainwashed.
Generally such marriages every 3 or 4 generations wont cause that much harm. The harm comes when the marriages start consistently keeping up with such: in other cases even such marriages can actually pass 'Good' traits to the offspring.
Though, it should be known that widely practicing such will lead to unintended consequences over many generations. So, I think you may be misunderstanding that such marriages are not causing these genetic defects themselves, but later down the line if it is to continue, that is when you see those defects.
Taxes payers in the countries where these Pakistan’s decide to live suffer also...
They'll say anything to get a British passport , even lie to their wives
Why do we always have to be so sensitive?! It's not a freaking attack on Islam or Pakistanis, it's the potential medical issues that may occur. You have to be educated enough to realize that you may potentially hurt your future kids , and if you're prepared to bare the consequences if they turn out disabled. It's beyond me how lightly those parents take things at all...how can you watch your kids suffer and still continue to claim that there's nothing wrong or the doctors are at fault?! Sickening! In 21st century you'd think that people would knows better but there you go....Poor kids! They don't deserve the life of suffering they got as a result of their parents' irresponsible decisions!
I think the sensitivity is that Islamic countries allows marriage between cousins, and few people take advantage of this availability
It's sad and infuriating that there are people who put a harmful and obsolete tradition over their children's health and well being. Those people should be chemically castrated.
Yes they just want to blame Islam and pakistan.
And show fake sympathy for these people.
If they really care, then help them.
It's flooding situation right now.
Then come and help those people.
These all people are just can say and talk.
They can't take action when it comes to real physical help.
@Wonnies Missing Wink Then what practices are considered Haram in Islam?
@@aryamanbhadauria1584 not being a barbaric, violent and rapy mysoginist ? As well as pork and alcohol I guess
This should be illegal in Britain. The NHS is already strained, Image how much this costs in benefits. And them poor children!! Beyond me why they continue to do it.
Even if they make it illegal, they will still do religious marriages which are not registered civilly. So the children would still be born.
strained its close to collapse
The facts of inbreeding has always been known, that's why it was avoided.
It's not just that they are first cousins, it's the fact that they're descended from first cousin marriages.
Everybody is a cousin.
@Mohammed Ali the g yeah keep repeating the same mistakes like morons by taking inspiration from some stupid religious story that never happened
exactly
@Mohammed Ali the g 1. Prove to me that's a real person that actually existed.
BUT let's assume he does exist (and that the story didn't gloss over the miscarriages, still born, infant deaths or leave out the disables/chronically ill children in favour of the perfectly healthy ones)...Ok so here we are "Prophet Adams son" marries his sister then whats to say he isn't the "Other Brother"
2. 20:56 "My other brother he got marry with her sister and he got 5 children and all of them perfectly right" Wow your Brother played genetic roulette and got lucky its a game of chance, he married her sister and they weren't BOTH carriers of Mucolipidosis type IV, but I'm sure when your children marry his children you'll be in for a nasty surprise. As your healthy children have a 2/3 chance of carrying the allele, his children have a high probability of a 1/2 chance of being carrier. 1/3 of your children and their cousins children potentially will have Mucolipidosis type IV.
One first cousin marriage increases risks but multi-generational first cousin marriages are compounding.
Quite right well before genetics were understood by hundreds of years excluding royals
Even Indian Muslims do this. My best friend told me she'll be marrying her cousin. So I said but that's weird and she got so offended. I shouldn't have said it like that but I was weirded out. How can you marry your brother? Your cousin's still your brother!
Depends. In Maharashtra cross cousins children aren't brother/sister. Two brothers or two sisters children are brother/sister. Here a boy can marry maternal uncle's daughter
This is not just a muslim problem. In India - in state of andhra pradesh - hindus marry first cousin and some times girls marry their mother's brother - maternal uncle. Everytime I see a big age difference between husband and wife of telugu ancestory - it is because lady has married her maternal uncle.
@@dineshganyarpawar5441 - that is still problematic. People closely related genetically should not marry
It’s sickening apart from being ignorant
Dude I’m a Muslim Pakistani and I swear to god I would never marry my cousin
I'm from Algeria. My cousin got married to her first cousin, which means their mothers are sisters. They have three children and none of them is healthy. They were born albinos suffering from weak eyesight and some personality disorder. What is striking for me is that nobody in the family thinks that it's because of their close blood that their children are suffering. People keep on denying the facts by lying to themselves !!!
Kahina Harrache that's because they don't want to admit to the truth... Another ignorant culture..... Thank God you know better... Hopefully you didn't Marry your cousin?
Of course not LOL !!! I'm refusing to marry in my country, let alone my cousin :D
Kahina Harrache thank God your breaking that ignorant tradition.
@God hahahaha good one !!
@Madam jewelz I wouldn't call it "tradition" It's a kinda set of mind .. It is allowed by religion therefore people just take it as acceptable. I mean when someone believes religion blindly this is what happens. They are too afraid to say : No !! This is wrong !! It's sort of blasphemy for them. It is very hard to change people's minds but thankfully there are many people nowadays who find it wrong !! And i am just one of them ..
I worked for some years for the local council on council house repairs. I was shocked by the number of handicapped children in Asian family homes both mental and physical in many cases .The dialysis services treating kidney disease proportionally treat more SE Asian patients than other racial groups.
All paid for by the British taxpayer.
Firstly, it’s not “Asians” but it’s British Pakistanis and Bangladeshis that practise inbreeding. Be specific. Also, SE Asia = Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia etc. You mean South Asia which includes Pakistan and Bangladesh.
It's not SE Asian, it's South Asian, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
my 92 years old grandma said to me a few months ago "you'll never know if you'll fall in love with a cousin someday". some people still thinks it is ok. I almost die inside haha.
I was very young. A family member of mine told me it’s okay to like my cousins. And that I can marry my cousins etc. i was a child.. lol and even though I was really young, I still was very turned off by the idea. One of my aunts actually married one of their cousins. Newer generations are breaking this cycle and that’s good.
THE PROBLEM TODAY IS MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE RELATED TO AND THEY ARE EVERYWHERE.
@@joywatkins4760 well clearly in the video they are well aware of what they are doing
I love my cousins but not like that 😬
but you have an hispanic name , that doesnt happen in our culture and when it does happen is very and i mean very frown upon ...
This makes my blood boil! Their childrens have to suffer for what their “parents” did!
christian babis are you stupid lol
Rohit Kalaikumar true it’s wrong and very sad
christian babis you are yuck
That is what I find so disturbing, they are not thinking of the terrible consequences of passing on genetic medical problems that cause such heartbreaking suffering for there children. It is passed on to one in four, that is a high risk.
This is not just a muslim problem. In India - in state of andhra pradesh - hindus marry first cousin and some times girls marry their mother's brother - maternal uncle. Everytime I see a big age difference between husband and wife of telugu ancestory - it is because lady has married her maternal uncle.
The way she was talking about her daughters issues but calling the girls "this one and that one". That's heartbreaking
Omg :c
Literally! What kind of a mother refers to her own children as "this one"
@@AnneLien1987 she doesn't love them
@@AnneLien1987 bc they aren't conscious
It's just linguistic. Isko doesn't have an exact translation when used this way. I'd just say him/her etc.
This was so well done.
I WANT TO CRY FOR HIS MOM...she probably had no choice and was arranged and now seeing her child like this
Ikr poor woman
yea, thats why he maked 7 kids, lol.. wake up
Exactly they're being brainwashed as kids
So true I thought the same too.
Show them this video. Respect their word but explain if your kids carry this gene your bloodline may not continue. Your future kids and yourself may suffer due to the risk of having children with a first cousin. If you feel you have to get married, maybe consider tying your tubes to prevent the possibility of something similar to this documentary.
i don’t care if it’s a religion or culture thing, dating/marrying your cousin whether it’s first or second is truly disgusting. especially because of the consequences of not having a healthy baby. all the people that said “oh i’m filled with pain seeing my child like that” but you continue doing it so does it actually hurt you seeing your kids like that?🤦🏽♀️
Welcome to the religion of Islam
@NINJA THEORY I might be wrong but it’s def a cultural thing
Hello, can anyone tell me something to help me feel better, my mom married her mother's brother, I am so far a healthy 13 year old girl I have no defects, disabilities or mental disorders I want to live a long life, will I be able to I'm actually having a panic attack
@@tulexia8841 Regardless of the consequences that may occur, this was none of your fault. Just live your life to the fullest, study hard, and pursue the career that you truly like :)
@@nazomius7033 my dream is to study at harvard one day and create a sustainable future for myself I hope I'll be able to achieve it, but are there chances if inbreeding going well cause so far there's no problem, is there any chance that the child will be born healthy and live long enough
The fact she lacks the decency to even thank the doctors but instead blame them for the way her kids he truned out is sickening. Her kids are suffering because of her and her decision to have kids with her first cousin. Inbreeding my darling.
She's come to the UK from a country where she would have had NO help at all and she's ungrateful. You can see she's not integrated into the culture she's living in either. I agree with you, and I find this attitude really gross.
I Thank god everyday that there’s nothing wrong with me considering my parents are first cousins. Even my cousins parents are….cousins so I’m basically related to my cousins on both sides. It’s just so sickening how they see nothing wrong with it, it makes me so sick to even think I was created from incest that I try my best not to remember. The parents in this video remind me of my own, stubborn, don’t care, in denial. I could have been born with abnormalities because of them… I just can’t stand how blind they are to the truth
@@xLindsayhd It is possible that you do have some undiagnosed medical issues related to your incestuous genetics, or they could manifest later in life. Low IQ is also a very common "symptom" of inbreeding.
@@xLindsayhd I'm really glad you turned out ok, please don't feel like an abomination. I'm sure they didn't understand or they wouldn't have risked it. And it can be hard to admit AFTER the fact that you could have killed your child with your actions, since you can do nothing to change it, and you have to live with it for the rest of your life, unable to remedy your actions. I'm 1000% glad you turned out healthy. Please use your privilege of health to go good things in the world. 🥰
Yeah people are stupid and full of denial. True of all races, all cultures. Humans are just a faulty species, we're not very good. You mention one example. There are millions of others happening all the time.
Going back to the middle ages, we are.
@dm3101 Yep, being dragged there by third world imports 😡
I am shocked that most people didn't know the risks of marrying a cousin, etc. I remember hearing about this as a kid. That there are people that refuse to believe the scientific evidence is mind-blowing. I thought it was illegal to marry a first cousin.
Don't let them go you, they do indeed know the risk and have known it for many years. They put their sick traditions above all else including future generations' health. They may not understand the specific science behind it but they know inbreeding can produce ill offspring.
It's just easier to play stupid than it is to admit they are wrong.
This isn't true for all, but many know it.
It’s perfectly legal in many countries all allover the world. Especially in the Greater Middle East. It’s even legal in several US states.
@@kcirtapelyk6060 You are correct-Alabama, Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont and Virginia.
However, some of these states have heavy restrictions to prevent inbreeding.
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And the thing is that there are fools out there that think this is ok..I get angry that they are so ignorant and seem happy with they kids suffering because of this kind of stupidity. I just don't get it. It is so wrong.
In my country Philippines it is illegal.
What annoys me the most is that they still decided to have more kids after their first child ... How pathetic !
This is actually very normal and very scary. I’m from Pakistan and in my family we do have cousin marriages, but mostly in the older generations. My mother is a doctor and has warned all of my cousins not to proceed with cousin marriages. Many of our uncles and aunts encourage cousin marriages despite knowing the consequences, and it absolutely disgusts me as they’re only putting their children in despair. They mostly encourage these inter-family marriage because they say they then know the other person better for their child than a stranger and were lucky not to have disabled children. In my belief, instead of being suspicious of the other stranger, they should just put their belief and trust in Allah.
Or you can trust science. It's a million times more reliable and true.
@@jaelynn7575 yes very true. However, many of the people of Pakistan are not quite literate or not willing to accept the science which deems them wrong. Those who are literate, they very much understand the consequences and are opposed to such things.
Then their offspring shouldn’t get medical help and spend tax payers money, let them be in the hands of Allah
It feels sad to me that they are so distrustful of other families in their OWN communities. They argue like they have to marry cousins or they won’t be able to trust the other family. This is so sad to live with such mistrust. They should understand there’s good families out there and their family may be stronger by joining another family. They shouldn’t let mistrust dictate their lives and lead to poor choices that have *very real* consequences for their children. So happy to hear your family thanks to your aunt is changing this dynamic. You should be proud your family thinks differently and for themselves.
Sorry, your mother not your aunt! You should be very proud. Her championing this (and you as well) will start to fix the problem. 💛
Such a sad state of affairs! (As an Australian child - I was raised to understand that I could marry a 1st cousin under the Law = but should never do so - especially because of the health risks. In our culture it was truly ‘frowned’ upon to do so.) My heart goes out to the children in this documentary who are suffering the health deficits.😔😔😔
I've always found it interesting that parents want their children to get the best education, to become a doctor or lawyer, etc. Yet, when you present them with actual scientific facts, they believe it's wrong, that it's made up and that doctors don't know what they're talking about. It's so ridiculous. It makes no sense. And to be honest, even though they think they're right, they end up looking stupid.
Yes very good point
Agreed! The push for children to be “doctors or lawyers” is nothing more than a narcissistic dream for parents. They want their children to make them look good and to benefit from the money their children rake in. Nothing short of child abuse.
Easy answer its not about the education its about the opportunity to make the most money and live a stress free life in their heads "Higher Education = More money" Actually helping people are second to last.