Love the system. All the inter connectivity is great! Been trying to do this but camelbak has changed their fittings multiple times and they’re not compatible. Sawyer has its own proprietary bs fittings but not compatible with camelbak. It’s not just the QD’s it’s the thread patterns as well that make everything so difficult. Nice Job. Love your vids!
Cross-contamination is possible with some of the adapters you've got there. Each end should be labeled as clean or dirty, or you should have a means of sanitizing them between uses.
Interesting stuff, my water containers all use a normal bottle size screw cap. That includes my dirty water bag so I don't need any adapters. It is quite the cool system with those adapters though! Wouldn't the adapters become contaminated in the prozess though hence using them on clean bottles later on might be hazardous?
You can also set up a hyrdapak bladder to a source brand tube and quickly refill a bladder on your back without having to take it off. Not your current use case but it works quite well. The only issue that I've run into is occasionally I'll get some air in the system but its possible to avoid.
Personally, I don't really like them for my intended use. They are heavy "15oz", require manual Active use to make them work. Where the syawer or beefree can be left alone while they produce clean water for you. And they are not good for filtering for multiple people. Maybe if I was alone and wasn't co concerned about wight too much it would be worth it.
I haven't used them. The main reason I don't use them is the weight. 1.1L MODL weighs 13oz, whereas a 2L hydropak weighs 2.7oz. I could carry 10L worth of hydropaks for the same weight as one 1L MODL but that just my personal preference.
Have you ever had yours freeze yet? Mine says you're not supposed to use it after it freezes but you would think that the hollow fibers would be fine after freezing as opposed to a ceramic filter that would trap all that water inside the ceramic and expand.
No I've never had one freeze. If it's cold enough I will keep the filter in an internal pocket of my jacket close to my body to prevent freezing. Overnight It goes in my sleeping bag with me.
Do you know what thread size is on the Katadyn 6L bag? I was wondering if that black adapter would also work on a Nalgene bottle and allow you to integrate it into the system. Great video!
@@PreparedAirman Awesome, thank you so much! Having some interchangeability with Nalgene bottles and the MSR bags gives some more options to throw into the mix. Thanks for testing it!
Why did you choose Sawyer versus Grayl or other purification method? I love and admire the good works Sawyer does around the world and I am drawn to how lightweight the system is and the backflush ability but it lacks the ability to clean viruses which drives me towards Grayl. Any thoughts?
At the time I made this, I didn't own a Grayl but realistically the grayl is a solution for a single person. The Sawyer mini or squeeze is rated to 100,000 gal while the Grayl is 60gal. That's why a like the Sawyer it can be a single person solution or a team one. I have since changed my water system around to be more efficient. th-cam.com/video/REXNCcUTMoU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bFKfUIlSKTginjwQ
The colored plug n play I could not find in your Amazon store. Sorry if it was an oversight. Where did you get the colored ones red and blue please? Thank you very much. Very informative.
Thanks for the review and ideas. Wasn't aware that Hydrapak had such options available. Been trying to decide whether to go with Hydrapak or a MSR Dromedary for an extra water carrier. In the Southwest where water can be a premium, always want a spare carrier that collapses when not needed. I don't normally use gravity feed and dislike how the Sawyer and similar products work, preferring a pump style filter. But I have been working on a general purpose Get Home Bag and think a Gravity Feed might be a good addition especially considering the amount of water one might need to filter if I were to break down while off-road in the middle of the desert. Add in a military bladder system like Source of some of the new CamelBack's that have the quick-connect systems and you can put together a nice system for handling water.
I have two caps/quick connects. One is red and the other is blue. After dipping it in the water you can tip the bag upside down and replace the dirt cap with the clean. Although this isn't nessesary if you use a Sawyer filter under the dirty water cap with a hose. Everything up stream is already dirty and it makes everything down stream clean.
What was your experience with Duckworth shipping you order?? Mine has been ridiculously slow. My first oder back in January took a week for them to ship. I chalked it up to being slow after Christmas. My latest order, according to Duckworth email was to arrive on 3/1/23. One week after I ordered it. Currently it still has not shipped and Duckworth Customer Service has not responded to my email. I'd cancel the oder but I was given a gift certificate to Duckworth. I don't want to lose the order, Powder hoodie at $175.00.
Ypure right nobody jas ever done this before.....at least ive never seen a 25lb water kit before. They must've had to airdrop your firekit in after insertion.
The kit weighs less than 2 lbs... I think you mean sling load.... not "call of duty" Air Drop. Even if it was 25lbs that would still be realistically pretty light. normally, the military runs 20 Liter cans of water, and they weight 45lbs lol I'm going to assume you've never operationally rucked water with a team if you're complaining about 25lbs....
If you don't tighten it down well, it will do that. Another friend of mine had a similar issue. His solution was putting a rubber O ring in the cap but Personally, I don't have that issue.
I talked to the friend that had the issue he sent me over some o rights that he used. I added them to my Amazon to make it easier. If you would like to confirm sizes I would measure the Internal dimensions. amzn.to/3LN8QPg
Yeah it's a popular comment. Mainly it comes from inexperienced folks that have never been several days away from civilization while still maintaining a effective fighting capability like a minute man/ rifleman setup, or a group of several people.
I spent all my money on night vision, gear and guns so I can only afford peasant water. But the Blue Smart water bottle label stands out more. Life water uses the black caps that are less noticeable.
Very well planned! Now with all of the train derailments we need to talk about decontaminating water!
By far the best setup I have seen so far, good job!!! Building the exact same as of now!!!!
Best system I have seen so far
Being off well water again ive taking a look into water stuff again, man some of the new stuff they have is awesome
This is the most comprehensive eco system I’ve seen
Love the system. All the inter connectivity is great! Been trying to do this but camelbak has changed their fittings multiple times and they’re not compatible. Sawyer has its own proprietary bs fittings but not compatible with camelbak. It’s not just the QD’s it’s the thread patterns as well that make everything so difficult. Nice Job. Love your vids!
Awesome kit brother, well thought out. Wish I had this in my day when I was a recon scout 1980. I will use this.
Wow, now thats smooth, great kit. Very robust due to how modular it is!
One thing you left out is how you backflush/clean your filters with that system.
I mean just wow, thats a really great set up.
Cross-contamination is possible with some of the adapters you've got there. Each end should be labeled as clean or dirty, or you should have a means of sanitizing them between uses.
If you look closely, they are all color coded. Red is for dirty and bule is for clean.
@@PreparedAirman Oh. Neat!
Interesting stuff, my water containers all use a normal bottle size screw cap. That includes my dirty water bag so I don't need any adapters. It is quite the cool system with those adapters though! Wouldn't the adapters become contaminated in the prozess though hence using them on clean bottles later on might be hazardous?
You can also set up a hyrdapak bladder to a source brand tube and quickly refill a bladder on your back without having to take it off. Not your current use case but it works quite well. The only issue that I've run into is occasionally I'll get some air in the system but its possible to avoid.
What parts do I need? I've got a 4L hydrapak
Sawyer pre filter was a cool find
That is a really good system!
I like this setup. Thank you for sharing this info
Great setup, and thanks for the info.
Grayl is the best one I found. Might want to check that out.
Personally, I don't really like them for my intended use. They are heavy "15oz", require manual Active use to make them work. Where the syawer or beefree can be left alone while they produce clean water for you. And they are not good for filtering for multiple people.
Maybe if I was alone and wasn't co concerned about wight too much it would be worth it.
Awesome set up thank you for sharing great info
very nice set up, thanks for posting
Well thought out, as always. Have you ever checked out Modl and their modular water bottle system? I have and love their stuff.
I haven't used them. The main reason I don't use them is the weight. 1.1L MODL weighs 13oz, whereas a 2L hydropak weighs 2.7oz. I could carry 10L worth of hydropaks for the same weight as one 1L MODL but that just my personal preference.
Have you ever had yours freeze yet? Mine says you're not supposed to use it after it freezes but you would think that the hollow fibers would be fine after freezing as opposed to a ceramic filter that would trap all that water inside the ceramic and expand.
No I've never had one freeze. If it's cold enough I will keep the filter in an internal pocket of my jacket close to my body to prevent freezing. Overnight It goes in my sleeping bag with me.
Great setup!
Do you know what thread size is on the Katadyn 6L bag? I was wondering if that black adapter would also work on a Nalgene bottle and allow you to integrate it into the system. Great video!
I'll have to check and is if that could work I'll get back to ya!
I just tried it and it works. The katadyn adapter attached to the blue bag works on Nalgene bottles.
@@PreparedAirman Awesome, thank you so much! Having some interchangeability with Nalgene bottles and the MSR bags gives some more options to throw into the mix. Thanks for testing it!
Why did you choose Sawyer versus Grayl or other purification method? I love and admire the good works Sawyer does around the world and I am drawn to how lightweight the system is and the backflush ability but it lacks the ability to clean viruses which drives me towards Grayl. Any thoughts?
At the time I made this, I didn't own a Grayl but realistically the grayl is a solution for a single person. The Sawyer mini or squeeze is rated to 100,000 gal while the Grayl is 60gal. That's why a like the Sawyer it can be a single person solution or a team one.
I have since changed my water system around to be more efficient.
th-cam.com/video/REXNCcUTMoU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bFKfUIlSKTginjwQ
What is your method of keeping them dry to prevent from freezing when in cooler climates?
Keeping the filter in a inner pocket of my jacket and/or placing them in my sleeping bag as I sleep.
Making what we called ‘smoke water’ at Survival in Fairchild by melting snow over a fire….the flavor packs were indispensable
The colored plug n play I could not find in your Amazon store. Sorry if it was an oversight. Where did you get the colored ones red and blue please? Thank you very much. Very informative.
Red & blue was just tape he added.
@@_astralxinfluenced_2799 thank you
You mentioned you have plused it up at the beginning of the video, do you usually go with a 6L filtration setup? Seems a bit much for one person
I typically do not use a large 6L filter system. I have recently got in the mindset of processing water for my family or a mid sized team.
@@PreparedAirman I see, I'll assume the normal set up being 2L?
Thanks for the review and ideas. Wasn't aware that Hydrapak had such options available. Been trying to decide whether to go with Hydrapak or a MSR Dromedary for an extra water carrier. In the Southwest where water can be a premium, always want a spare carrier that collapses when not needed. I don't normally use gravity feed and dislike how the Sawyer and similar products work, preferring a pump style filter. But I have been working on a general purpose Get Home Bag and think a Gravity Feed might be a good addition especially considering the amount of water one might need to filter if I were to break down while off-road in the middle of the desert. Add in a military bladder system like Source of some of the new CamelBack's that have the quick-connect systems and you can put together a nice system for handling water.
Many systems exist, I would say just test them and see which one works best for your tactics and environment.
Wait wait, you're saying that the lid on the Keith/heavy cover canteen doesn't work? Isn't that a big deal?
How do you fill the Katadyn Dirty Water bag without contaminating the Hydrapak valve with dirty water when dipping the bag in water?
I have two caps/quick connects. One is red and the other is blue. After dipping it in the water you can tip the bag upside down and replace the dirt cap with the clean.
Although this isn't nessesary if you use a Sawyer filter under the dirty water cap with a hose. Everything up stream is already dirty and it makes everything down stream clean.
I prefer to use water purification tablets. Filters' fibres may freeze very easily. If they freeze, filter basically does not work at all
That's why I carry both. But as long as you keep the filter close to your body in the winter time you will have no issues.
What was your experience with Duckworth shipping you order?? Mine has been ridiculously slow. My first oder back in January took a week for them to ship. I chalked it up to being slow after Christmas. My latest order, according to Duckworth email was to arrive on 3/1/23. One week after I ordered it. Currently it still has not shipped and Duckworth Customer Service has not responded to my email. I'd cancel the oder but I was given a gift certificate to Duckworth. I don't want to lose the order, Powder hoodie at $175.00.
Thanks for the video.
Ypure right nobody jas ever done this before.....at least ive never seen a 25lb water kit before. They must've had to airdrop your firekit in after insertion.
The kit weighs less than 2 lbs... I think you mean sling load.... not "call of duty" Air Drop.
Even if it was 25lbs that would still be realistically pretty light. normally, the military runs 20 Liter cans of water, and they weight 45lbs lol
I'm going to assume you've never operationally rucked water with a team if you're complaining about 25lbs....
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Have you had any issues with the hydrapack quick adapter on the gravity bag leaking? First time using mine this weekend and noticed it dripping
If you don't tighten it down well, it will do that. Another friend of mine had a similar issue. His solution was putting a rubber O ring in the cap but Personally, I don't have that issue.
@PreparedAirman thanks. I tried cranking it as hard as I could and feel like I still noticed it just dripping hanging there.
I talked to the friend that had the issue he sent me over some o rights that he used. I added them to my Amazon to make it easier. If you would like to confirm sizes I would measure the Internal dimensions.
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@@PreparedAirman that's so fantastic. Thank you so much for that. I'll grab some of them and give it a try
Awesome 😎
I'm guessing you've had the comment ( You carry to much stuff) more than a few times.
Yeah it's a popular comment. Mainly it comes from inexperienced folks that have never been several days away from civilization while still maintaining a effective fighting capability like a minute man/ rifleman setup, or a group of several people.
had a shopping spree and pretty much copied this setup, sorry not sorry
Why is he so obsessed with life water????? Smart water is the best, is he just POOR??
I spent all my money on night vision, gear and guns so I can only afford peasant water. But the Blue Smart water bottle label stands out more. Life water uses the black caps that are less noticeable.