Global Cycling Network - All the usual buzzwords....Stiffer, more comfort, tweaked geometry. The bikes are nice looking but in reality how much different is it for us mortal riders. Maybe we are just reaching the age where less and less can actually change as we perfect the technology.
My 2016 R2 was cracked in less then 6 months, without any crashes or external impacts.... Cervelo offered to let me buy a new frame for 1800 dollars on a 2500 dollar bike... never again Cervelo. So much for supporting Canadian, eh?
whoops. Just bought this R5 version for 750Euro 2nd hand from a friend. With 2 years of milage. I'm a bit hyped... finally making my cervelo dream true (after 12+ years of riding road bikes)!
I just picked up a r2 with ultegra group set. The cervelo rep in my area said there isn't a difference between the r2 and r3 frame. The forks only have a 15 gram difference. So far I'm loving it.
I was privileged to ride for a few days in Tuscany during a hiking tour of The Etruscan Road back in 2007. What a wonderful region in which to ride and enjoy Italy.
Looks amazing and I imagine they feel amazing to ride as well. My last year of racing as a junior was back in 2008 where I rode the r2, which is the one that was used to win Paris-Roubaix. It was the best bike I ever raced. Had it equipped with full Campagnolo Chorus 10 speed and Fulcrum Racing Speed wheels for dry conditions, Racing 0 for wet and rough conditions (used those for Paris Roubaix junior) both sets were tubulars. My current bike feels about the same but seeing as the cervelo was 5 years earlier I think that speaks to how great a frame it really was and I would probably be like a kid on christmas if I got to ride those new bikes.
I love how all bike manufacturer are able to focus on each most important point while keeping a overall look at the whole picture to keep a strong balance and high performance optimised in every aspect of a dedicated riding style bike. Very each aspect is made better than the other ones. :p
I bought my R3 in 2014 and it is the most comfortable bike I’ve ever owned and the fastest bike!!! I do all my social rides on it and the big MS 150 rides as well. It’s super fast and I am very confident on this bike with its handling. Get one and you’ll ride a lot more😄🚴
I have to agree with an earlier comment regarding it looking like the Canyon Ultimate. Very nice bike will be good to get up close and have a closer look! Thanks guys all the best Andy
I have the 2014 version of the R5 and have been thinking of disc brakes for my next bike. The new R5 with discs seems expensive (especially when compared to Canyon, for example) and the new R3 looks cheap (and shiny) - plus it seems that the R3 disc version is not available yet. Would be good if GCN could do a "real world" comparison between the C Series and the R Series - many of us don't race and, if I am going to spend Cervelo-type money on a new bike, I would want that bike to be the "go to" bike for as many types of riding conditions as possible.
Will GCN be riding Cervelos from now on? I would love to see you guys riding them. Especially Dan, who, for some reason would look quite good on one...
Thanks for the detailed Information in the video! Absolutely like this bike. However, will there be a the long term spare part perspective of the BBright standard?
Dan is busy trying to get in shape (and be a fast sprinter) because he's hoping to replace Mark Cavendish on Dimension Data for the Tour in case Mark won't be able to ride due to his illness!
gamecat or in the time of collecting these crazy amounts of cash for these extremely expensive bikes just trained. in that time you would have increased your power to weight and ftp alot. plus after buying you can take risks without being al the time afraid to lose all your money
I use the Continental Grand Prix GT series. Great tire, good puncture protection and SO STICKY. Gotta love that black chili compound. Oh yeah, nice Cervelo as well! GCN is the shite, keep up the good work boys!
@5:46 it was explained that for an 28 mm tyre the clearance should according to regulation be 4 mm.1'st: which standard ; 2'nd if i don't find this clearance on my bike, using 28 mm tyre, is that a reason to complain?
i miss the CSC Cervelo man.....indeed it was so beautiful, insanely beautiful this one, i mean i'm sur it's a good bike, now....so anecdotic looking.....
Did all the marketing guys at the bike manufacturing companies recieve the exact same bullsh*t manual when graduing from some occult bike marketing academy? "Our new bike is now [0-25]% stiffer in [insert frame section] and [0-25]% stiffer in [insert another frame section] while being [0-15]% more comfortable and saving you [0-30] watts at the same speed." - If any of this was true, my 10 year old bikes should have the structural integrity of slightly overcooked noodles, and the comfort roughly equal to a Judas cradle. :-(
its the washing powder school of marketing. if you go back to the 1970s, you would find washing power got whites 100% spotless and white, esp compared to the 100% spotless gleaming white of the 1960s which was actually more yellowy. and yet every year since has seen remarkable leaps forward in white technology. todays powders get clothes 1000s of times whiter. and in the future your whites will be ever more white too. there is no limits to such marketing, i mean tech
So how much of this stiffness is coming from just merely using the mountain-bike-style larger diameter skewers/axles? I mean, yeah, any frameset with those is going to be stiffer from what I have seen, but... who in the hell wants to deal with them for regular exercising and flatting out? If I was a canyon-carver racing down hills I might want the added stiffness they bring... but... hell, I used to do that with very flexible bikes. I love the thought of them, but certainly don't want to be dragging along that large of an allen-key/wrench for when I have to change a tube out.
To be honest. I think it was about time for cervelo to launch something new. They kind of lost the sensation about the bikes from "test team era". Certainly Dan might have an opinion on that 😉 Keep up the videos. Would love to see a little series about certain bike areas.
I used to work in a shop that sell Cervelos, they do it intentionally having done a past survey of their average customers and finding around 80% already had their own wheels they would put on a new bike anyway. Thus they decided to try and cut overall price with cheap wheels.
thechosendude Wrong... When you lower the seatstays, you increase seat tube compliance... BMC did it on the RoadMachine and now on the TeamMachine. It helps make the ride a lot more comfortable.
Will this CERVELO be TESTed by a member of the TEAM? Perhaps a former pro who had experience with the brand? Does anyone know where such a mythical creature might be found?
The way companies throw out numbers, someone should start tracking their claims. In several years we'll eventually get to the point where we've achieved 💯 and reached inception levels.
thechosendude If you're talking about the improved stiffness numbers, a material can be over 100% stiffer than another. The numbers are relative to each other. For example steel has a Young's Modulus (number related to stiffness) of around 200 GPa while aluminum has a Young's Modulus of around 70 GPa. This makes steel almost 200% stiffer than aluminum.
Ziyad Kara Yeah your right it is playing with numbers, I personal don't believe it, All these watts and stiffer here there and everywhere, we would almost not need to pedal with all these improvement! Hahahaha
wayne proud even if they are stiffer, more compliant in number terms as measured in a lab, the big question is: is any of this perceptible to the average rider? plus is it really necessary? are the bikes not stiff enough already for most riders?
What do you think of the new Cervélo R-Series? Let us know 👇
Frame stiffness is indirectly proportional to Wallet Lightness
Global Cycling Network - All the usual buzzwords....Stiffer, more comfort, tweaked geometry. The bikes are nice looking but in reality how much different is it for us mortal riders. Maybe we are just reaching the age where less and less can actually change as we perfect the technology.
Seems good but too pricey.
Bound to be a new one along soon - your R2 is an old R3 with the 'Mud' fork unless I'm mistaken.
My 2016 R2 was cracked in less then 6 months, without any crashes or external impacts.... Cervelo offered to let me buy a new frame for 1800 dollars on a 2500 dollar bike... never again Cervelo.
So much for supporting Canadian, eh?
whoops. Just bought this R5 version for 750Euro 2nd hand from a friend. With 2 years of milage.
I'm a bit hyped... finally making my cervelo dream true (after 12+ years of riding road bikes)!
Just bought the R-5. Had to sell both kidneys, but it looks great next to my dialysis machine.
wilko10000 bravo 👏
very funny
losing organs makes you lighter
wilko10000
very much a lol moment
marginal improvements, indeed!
I have a 2008 R3 and it STILL rips. Love, love the bike!
as a Cervelo fan, I love the new R5 looks and loved the video... as usual, great job GCN!
The R5 in black and green looks stunning!
Finally a GCN video on a bike brand other than Canyon and Trek!
nice. i particularly like that the slopey tubes at the back, join the more upright tube that the seatpost goes into, at the right place.
I just picked up a r2 with ultegra group set. The cervelo rep in my area said there isn't a difference between the r2 and r3 frame. The forks only have a 15 gram difference. So far I'm loving it.
I was privileged to ride for a few days in Tuscany during a hiking tour of The Etruscan Road back in 2007. What a wonderful region in which to ride and enjoy Italy.
I have the 2016 R5 and it's freaking amazing!
Were you able to fit your computer mount on the handlebars?
Great to see the R5 getting the recognition it deserves.
I wish (like every new bike) I too could be 10% lighter, 15% stiffer and 20% more vertically compliant each year.
Is that laying down 😂😂😂😂😂 or standing up
Looks amazing and I imagine they feel amazing to ride as well. My last year of racing as a junior was back in 2008 where I rode the r2, which is the one that was used to win Paris-Roubaix. It was the best bike I ever raced. Had it equipped with full Campagnolo Chorus 10 speed and Fulcrum Racing Speed wheels for dry conditions, Racing 0 for wet and rough conditions (used those for Paris Roubaix junior) both sets were tubulars.
My current bike feels about the same but seeing as the cervelo was 5 years earlier I think that speaks to how great a frame it really was and I would probably be like a kid on christmas if I got to ride those new bikes.
I'm assuming GCN didn't know anyone that was on a team that tested Cervelos?
BEAUTIFUL!!! Can not wait to buy one
I love how all bike manufacturer are able to focus on each most important point while keeping a overall look at the whole picture to keep a strong balance and high performance optimised in every aspect of a dedicated riding style bike. Very each aspect is made better than the other ones. :p
I'm hoping to pick up the R5 Etap disk tomorrow... nervous and excited at the same time!
Happy New Bike Day for tomorrow!
I bought my R3 in 2014 and it is the most comfortable bike I’ve ever owned and the fastest bike!!! I do all my social rides on it and the big MS 150 rides as well. It’s super fast and I am very confident on this bike with its handling. Get one and you’ll ride a lot more😄🚴
my jaws dropped when they announced that the R5 is going to be almost 10k
That’s brilliant I’m getting a r5 bike today and I can’t wait
I have to agree with an earlier comment regarding it looking like the Canyon Ultimate. Very nice bike will be good to get up close and have a closer look! Thanks guys all the best Andy
The R5 looks amazing in that colourway!
I like it :) Great work Cervelo and nice present GCN
omg the cutting!
I like that GCN steps out of their Canyon comfort zone from time to time.
I have the 2014 version of the R5 and have been thinking of disc brakes for my next bike. The new R5 with discs seems expensive (especially when compared to Canyon, for example) and the new R3 looks cheap (and shiny) - plus it seems that the R3 disc version is not available yet. Would be good if GCN could do a "real world" comparison between the C Series and the R Series - many of us don't race and, if I am going to spend Cervelo-type money on a new bike, I would want that bike to be the "go to" bike for as many types of riding conditions as possible.
Will GCN be riding Cervelos from now on? I would love to see you guys riding them. Especially Dan, who, for some reason would look quite good on one...
this new R series just keeps this Canadian bike company at the top of cycling tech for the last 20+ yrs
Interested in disc versions difference between R3 and R5 for real world handling,riding?
this channel becoming the top gear of cycling
Man, you guys get to ride in some of the most beautiful places. Rough job! I have an older Cervelo RS. Great bike. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for the detailed Information in the video! Absolutely like this bike. However, will there be a the long term spare part perspective of the BBright standard?
Nice thorough review, especially with Cervelo being one of my dream brands. 😊
well done with the soundtrack !
Where´s Dan? :(
Dan is here, there and everywhere! Jon.
Dan is busy trying to get in shape (and be a fast sprinter) because he's hoping to replace Mark Cavendish on Dimension Data for the Tour in case Mark won't be able to ride due to his illness!
+taurus20077 yeah, something like that!
такие прикольные, ща лопну от смеха)
He's commentating on Eurosport - Criterium d'Dauphine
2w at 30mph, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Or I could have a shave I guess...
gamecat or in the time of collecting these crazy amounts of cash for these extremely expensive bikes just trained. in that time you would have increased your power to weight and ftp alot. plus after buying you can take risks without being al the time afraid to lose all your money
I'm guessing they'll update the S3 soon too? Ugly cable routing on the R5 & S5.. only looks good with etap
Loving the Fizik R1b Climb Edition shoes, Si :)
Do they NOT always focus on Fit, Handling, and Comfort??????
Do you mean that the bars and stem are Cervelo's first foray into Aluminum *bars and stems*, or? Because they've made Alu bikes before (Soloist).
I use the Continental Grand Prix GT series. Great tire, good puncture protection and SO STICKY. Gotta love that black chili compound. Oh yeah, nice Cervelo as well! GCN is the shite, keep up the good work boys!
I guess the grand prix version seen on the Cervelo is maybe a little lighter/less puncture protection?
@5:46 it was explained that for an 28 mm tyre the clearance should according to regulation be 4 mm.1'st: which standard ; 2'nd if i don't find this clearance on my bike, using 28 mm tyre, is that a reason to complain?
Hmm let me see...some GCN presenter used to ride for the Cervelo Test Team...if I'm not wrong...*Hahaha 😂*
really? Not that we know of
Global Cycling Network his name's Dan Actually lol :P
r5 looks brilliant and updated, r3 although looks the same as previous model!
Why haven't Cervelo ever mass produced the R3 mud? Or an updated version!!
Surely dan should be here ;)
Hey GCN - I want a status update on the tandem hour record! :) Looking forward to that!!!
this was a great video love cervelo one of the best brand
I feel Dan should have done this video. You know he use to ride for the Cervelo test team!
So Beautiful!!
Love that bike😍😍😍
Such nice bikes!
Hi GCN! I have a few camelbak bottles, but they sit so tight on the bottle cage, are there any bottle cates that you recommend for camelback bottles?
i miss the CSC Cervelo man.....indeed
it was so beautiful, insanely beautiful
this one, i mean i'm sur it's a good bike, now....so anecdotic looking.....
love your videos.. what's the track that I keep heairng in them ..comes on @3.39 in this one
Love ur vid's man :D
thanks
1) I love this R5, so beautiful
2) How come is Dan not presenting this??
I still love my Serotta titanium. I also love my new S5..... :)
Where exactly in Italy is that? Absolutely gorgeous!!!!
Did all the marketing guys at the bike manufacturing companies recieve the exact same bullsh*t manual when graduing from some occult bike marketing academy? "Our new bike is now [0-25]% stiffer in [insert frame section] and [0-25]% stiffer in [insert another frame section] while being [0-15]% more comfortable and saving you [0-30] watts at the same speed." - If any of this was true, my 10 year old bikes should have the structural integrity of slightly overcooked noodles, and the comfort roughly equal to a Judas cradle. :-(
its the washing powder school of marketing. if you go back to the 1970s, you would find washing power got whites 100% spotless and white, esp compared to the 100% spotless gleaming white of the 1960s which was actually more yellowy. and yet every year since has seen remarkable leaps forward in white technology. todays powders get clothes 1000s of times whiter. and in the future your whites will be ever more white too. there is no limits to such marketing, i mean tech
Du har så ret!
what are you thoughts about the new Ultegra R8000 groupset?
we've not had a chance to take a look yet.
R5 Disc 😍😍😍
@Si - how long it takes you before any test ride of bikes like this to translate your approx bike fit?
Seems like a very nice pair of bikes. Indeed it may be a good idea to do a review as opposed to advertorial once the suntan has worn off. :)
Gotta love a Cervelo. Hot 🖒 🔥
Does it come in any other color than black?
So how much of this stiffness is coming from just merely using the mountain-bike-style larger diameter skewers/axles? I mean, yeah, any frameset with those is going to be stiffer from what I have seen, but... who in the hell wants to deal with them for regular exercising and flatting out? If I was a canyon-carver racing down hills I might want the added stiffness they bring... but... hell, I used to do that with very flexible bikes. I love the thought of them, but certainly don't want to be dragging along that large of an allen-key/wrench for when I have to change a tube out.
I like how cervélo invited Si and not Dan to “test” their new bikes
Longest advert ever GCN.
To be honest. I think it was about time for cervelo to launch something new. They kind of lost the sensation about the bikes from "test team era". Certainly Dan might have an opinion on that 😉
Keep up the videos. Would love to see a little series about certain bike areas.
Cervelo have notoriously short toptubes - Steve Cumming rides a 150cm stem as does Cav : nuffsaid!
You've been caught with your cap down, Si. I think a visit to HR is in order. What do you think, Dan?
Some stats there! I'm sold, where do I sign.
In places the frame is 0.2mm thick! WHAT!
looks like a canyon ultimate, but probably twice the price
Shots Fired
at warp speed!
I used to work in a shop that sell Cervelos, they do it intentionally having done a past survey of their average customers and finding around 80% already had their own wheels they would put on a new bike anyway. Thus they decided to try and cut overall price with cheap wheels.
Cervelos mentality is to sell you less expensive wheels to reduce the total price of the bike.
cerebellum exactly that #shotsfired
How do you compare it to a Tarmac SL6 sworks?
Simon, you are awesome
0:40. The face you make when you nearly hit a dog and go flying off the mountain side on a sponsored test bike.
What are rbe benefits of having a stiffer bike?
So Cervelo gave one to Fabio Cancellara, who then built a little motor in it and went and won Paris-Roubaix on it.
I thought the BB of Cervelo wasn't compatible with Shimano? :)
Could you do one of these on the s serious
Im getting a slightly used R5 today. Does anybody know if I can peel off those white Cervelo stickers? or is it paint? Huge white stickers must go
Dan should have ridden the Cervelo to test it for the team.
#toreqback Do you push or pull handlebars during sprint?
odd that they have the high seat stays (like a Cannondale), I see that the new-to-come tarmac dropped their seatstay positions a few inches...
low stays are for aero, this frame isn't for aero.
thechosendude Wrong... When you lower the seatstays, you increase seat tube compliance... BMC did it on the RoadMachine and now on the TeamMachine. It helps make the ride a lot more comfortable.
then the new tarmac is to be an aero bike???
Surely Dan should be presenting this episode.
The All-Conquering-Arse Series?
So now Simon can say he's a rider in the Cervelo Test Team (of sorts)
Of course, the same time I am buying the R2 :D
subtitles makes the vids hella better for non-british human beings
So are the chain stays 410cm?
Does the new R3 Ultegra come with Ultegra R8000?
Sure does - it’s pretty good too
Will this CERVELO be TESTed by a member of the TEAM? Perhaps a former pro who had experience with the brand? Does anyone know where such a mythical creature might be found?
rudyard ganuelas I think the nearest pub would be good place to start the search
My lotto winning first purchase. 💰🚴🏽♂️
Where in Italy was this filmed?
With a down tube that size it looks like a snidey ebike!
The way companies throw out numbers, someone should start tracking their claims. In several years we'll eventually get to the point where we've achieved 💯 and reached inception levels.
thechosendude
If you're talking about the improved stiffness numbers, a material can be over 100% stiffer than another. The numbers are relative to each other. For example steel has a Young's Modulus (number related to stiffness) of around 200 GPa while aluminum has a Young's Modulus of around 70 GPa. This makes steel almost 200% stiffer than aluminum.
Ziyad Kara Yeah your right it is playing with numbers, I personal don't believe it, All these watts and stiffer here there and everywhere, we would almost not need to pedal with all these improvement! Hahahaha
wayne proud even if they are stiffer, more compliant in number terms as measured in a lab, the big question is: is any of this perceptible to the average rider? plus is it really necessary? are the bikes not stiff enough already for most riders?
People probably said the same thing about improved bikes back in 1920s, 30s, 40s, etc..... I will take the modern bike thanks.
What is the BB type for this R5?