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Tasting a 1980's PuErh! Does Ageing Improve Ripe PuErh Tea?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2018
  • I taste an over 30 year aged PuErh tea to try to give my opinions on how the ageing process changes the taste of ripe (Shu or Shou) PuErh tea.
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    Ripe or cooked PuErh Tea is always best consumed after a couple of years have passed in order to clear any mustiness which develops during the fermentation process but how doe many years of ageing affect the taste of this tea?
    Sheng or Raw PuErh changes relatively quickly (in the tea world) with ageing but Ripe Tea is much slower. Tasting a real antique tea like this 1980's Sugarnut Reserve is a great way to experience the changes that many decades of storage brings to cooked PuErh.
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ความคิดเห็น • 91

  • @JD-lb8hc
    @JD-lb8hc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Don, you are the absolute king of TH-cam tea education, thank you for your commitment to tea culture and to the “sinofication” of cha dao with all the cultural and anthropological significance that brings. You have contributed so much to my knowledge of tea.
    I am interested in this topic and really appreciate your insight. As a another view I want to share an article came out The Microbiome and Metabolites in Fermented Pu-erh Tea as Revealed by High-Throughput Sequencing and Quantitative Multiplex Metabolite Analysis (Zhang et all.)
    “Age of tea showed significant correlation with fungal and bacterial community composition only for raw Pu-erh (Table C in S1 File). From this result, one might infer that raw Pu-erh is a robust but lengthy method of making the product, and that making ripened Pu-erh is a more demanding process, but one that does not benefit from aging. This result also seems to support the speculation that the long transport of raw Pu-erh from Yunnan to Tibet and other remote destinations in ancient times contributed to its maturation [8]. Aging does not significantly affect the communities of ripened tea, suggesting that aging ripened tea is unnecessary.”
    Probably more going on than the authors attribute, thanks for your insight.

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes I have read this paper and agree that probably the ageing of Ripe does not significantly change the fungal or bacterial composition but ageing any tea has other effects (oxidation, changes in aromatics/terpenes etc). The changes in the tea that I taste seem more related to changes in aromatics and texture rather than microbial activity.

    • @darrensucksatgames
      @darrensucksatgames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeiLeaf And the added effect of the storage location itself is probably the biggest one, I’d imagine! I love the idea of the tea picking up it’s own essence from the journey itself, though! I always assumed the aging process was more of a slow aeration/oxidation of the cake or leaves.

  • @jnsnj1
    @jnsnj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Walks into clay studio: Hmm, notes of pu erh

  • @craigmckissick8840
    @craigmckissick8840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a year for tea, you have rinsed my bank account yet again 🍵can't wait to try this!

  • @andrei-silviusontu9911
    @andrei-silviusontu9911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to say I do love it when you show off these rare teas. Very entertaining. Thank you!

  • @dhptea
    @dhptea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    love the new set up (right in front of all the teaware) 😁 would love to see a personal favorites video!!

    • @mrcvry
      @mrcvry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where an earthquake is your biggest nightmare!

  • @gomertube
    @gomertube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating lesson. Thank you.

  • @joetexas1546
    @joetexas1546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Will be storing all of my cooked Puerh’ for fifteen more years. Will start brewing in 2033🤪🤓
    Petra-you are invited😸

  • @WanderingVeteran
    @WanderingVeteran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How awesome. I have 1999 purple tea pu erh coming. I want to get this 80's one!
    Super Tea Mode activated: 18:39

  • @teeholisti-hippi2159
    @teeholisti-hippi2159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that's some old tea😱I wish I could get a taste!

  • @xavierlarrazabal4575
    @xavierlarrazabal4575 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly this makes me want to get super old and just see long I can age the teas I love now

  • @Ben-vv7nd
    @Ben-vv7nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The longer deep kept ,the cooked puerh tea emplificate the deep smooth complex taste become more prosper 😌🙌

  • @joetexas1546
    @joetexas1546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Purchased a Gong Fu Guru II from you guys yesterday-sooo Excited! Please quadruple wrap👍😃😎

  • @imaphantomfan
    @imaphantomfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I admit I was skeptical about the subject. Starting by the idea that cooked Puer already had its fermentation process accelerated, keep it for too long would only be detrimental to the tea. But wow, it seems when been kept in the right condition, it actually improves too, like the raw variety.

    • @Kconv1
      @Kconv1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all ripe tea is fermented to full fermentation. Also there are other effects of aging, such as picking up that after rain aroma in certain climates.

  • @MrDgmiller
    @MrDgmiller 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You described composting. Composting doesn't sound sexy though so i get it.

  • @teagong-go8374
    @teagong-go8374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid Don. I'm tasting a 2007 Brick Pu'erh while watching this and sadly not enjoying it as much as you are.

  • @desertfox432
    @desertfox432 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a treat. I wonder how your raw classics will age, could be put on will worthy.

  • @Ben-vv7nd
    @Ben-vv7nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would like to explore n experience this old tea. Would consider send some sample to me for tasting and same time can enjoy the same understand the emotion your go through when you drinking it in your TH-cam. Good on drinking the goods stuff n enjoy to the fullest.

  • @ClarionMumbler
    @ClarionMumbler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi don, love the videos and the shop! I have an idea that might improve the videos. One of the very few criticisms I have is that you regularly will hold something up to the camera for a closer look and then adjust the focus with your phone. I've always found that process to be a bit clunky and awkward. There is a channel called stuffandthings that does pipe tobacco reviews, and when he wants close-up shots of the tobacco leaf he will do a cut away to a previously recorded bit where the camera and lighting are optimally set up for looking at the tobacco. Or in your case, tea, or even teaware. I know this would mean added production time, so it may not be worth it in the long run. But I thought I would put a bug in your ear anyways. Cheers!

    • @worldofwarcraft011
      @worldofwarcraft011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      glad to see another stuffandthings viewer here

    • @imaphantomfan
      @imaphantomfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're totally right

    • @jang.1185
      @jang.1185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why to make it in such aseptic way? I really like the style of Don's videos as it is. It is more personal and also funny :) All this holding and dropping tea leaves and trying to focus properly - It makes the video more alive and entertaining.

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cool I will check out that channel. I would love to do more detailed cutaways. The issue is that I usually have about an hour to shoot per week in my schedule and this style of point and shoot allows us to produce weekly videos. Whenever we do more detailed videos (like our Tea in motion videos) then it takes more than triple the amount of time which would mean that we could not do a weekly video. But, we are working on upgrading our gear so that we can get better quality detail shots.

    • @ClarionMumbler
      @ClarionMumbler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jang.1185 I guess my response would be that production quality shouldn't be the victim of aesthetic. Unless that is the whole point of the aesthetic. But since this is an educational channel, and Don has mentioned repeatedly that good videography is important to him, I highly doubt that is the case. But to each their own. It is a matter of personal opinion.

  • @zeusdreadbeard8990
    @zeusdreadbeard8990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought sone 1993 menghai last time i was in london and its fantastic.

  • @garlicbananana
    @garlicbananana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recently i drink 2003 ripe puer and for first infusion, i mean at rinsing, it's still smalls fishy. although after infusions are nice and sweet. I think it is quite interesting that the fisheness can remain through 20 years in cake which is disappear in few years when it is not pressed.

    • @garlicbananana
      @garlicbananana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thet tea is 홍대파달숙병. I don't know how it called in English nor Chinese

    • @garlicbananana
      @garlicbananana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think pressing is not for ripe puer.

  • @wreagfe
    @wreagfe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow that's crazy Don. Quick question though, not sure if you've mentioned it or not: does this ripe have a bit of those nuts flavour? Like a nuttiness? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes very nutty flavour in this one.

  • @petra.andersen
    @petra.andersen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    older then us Don ;-) ;-)

    • @mariannefleur6671
      @mariannefleur6671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Petra Andersen birthday tea, if only it were also a Sheng! But Zi’ll definitely get some to try! Maybe this will be the epiphany Shou that shows me the light in the darkness. 😁💖🙏

  • @dpac_96
    @dpac_96 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dom! Could you make a video about 'Funmatsucha' 'Powdered Green tea' 'Powdered Sencha' ?
    Also, could you also tell if there is any effects on the health beneficial compounds when Senchas are steamed fukamushi style?

  • @macronchampion
    @macronchampion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To find true old pu'er tea for cheap nowadays you should go to Tibet countryside...or in Hong Kong if you wanna pay huge price

  • @DaRanged
    @DaRanged 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never thought I would get so much FOMO over tea..! Don you are the don! Can't wait to try it.

  • @sexysupportgroup345
    @sexysupportgroup345 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Don, i just found your channel and i went all though it. I´m just getting into the world of tea right now and i wasnt able to try that many teas until now. What i found out is, that i like the grassy japanese green teas, i so made Sencha to my everyday-tea and i sometimes drink some Gyokuro (i found your channel over your Gyokuro video). But im not really satisfied with the tea that i brew. I dont think that the tea is the problem since im sometimes able to get some good tea out of it and i followed the instructions i got and i even tested a bit around with temp. and co. but i dont often get the taste i want and if, i cant reproduce it why so ever.( I´m using a Kyusu ) I already watched your video "common mistakes when brewing" but do you have any other ideas for me? And can you recommend me another green tea since you now know my kind of taste. Thanks :)

  • @markamargo
    @markamargo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had opened a puerh cake and it had three small spots of white mold in a few locations. Is this common and is the tea safe to drink? (I removed the mold with a cotton swab and now it’s gone)

  • @danielmckoane
    @danielmckoane 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should add a her cha section on your site. then i can order everything from one place?

  • @richardbrown8087
    @richardbrown8087 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that these leaves don't look like they were compressed. Is this the case?

  • @mrlxnx
    @mrlxnx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does aging works tho. can I buy young puEhr store it in my house for 40 years and expect similar results?

  • @kylezo
    @kylezo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's this about "cha to"? the clumped tea?

  • @livnic2000
    @livnic2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don, was this one of the confiscated teas? If not, what has happened with those?

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, the confiscated teas are in prison and I am working on appealing their disposal.

    • @joetexas1546
      @joetexas1546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mei Leaf TEA VESTS UNITE!!!

  • @ajminxy
    @ajminxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proceeds to walk all over the valuable microbes

  • @calgarus6606
    @calgarus6606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Any tips on how 2 develop my taste and tastebuds so i can pick up more flavours in tea for the future?

    • @daolaogui
      @daolaogui 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Find a group of likewise people, have a tea session together and push each other to taste all the flavours.

    • @daolaogui
      @daolaogui 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh and taste and smell everything you come across.

    • @maciej6293
      @maciej6293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quit smoking if you do and don't eat very spicy food on regular basis. Taste buds will recover 😉

    • @calgarus6606
      @calgarus6606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maciej6293 i dont smoke or neither eat really spicy my buds arent damaged in that way i just wanna improve them as muich as possible in a sense 2 get all the notes in the future ^^

    • @germainegrewal8833
      @germainegrewal8833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Calgarus the best way that I found is to just drink tea. In the beginning you won’t know where to find notes, but as you drink more and more, you will slowly begin to find notes like,” this tea reminds me of a summer meadow” and from there narrow them down like,” pine trees or fresh grass etc”

  • @siekacz56
    @siekacz56 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don, how woud you compare this tea to the gem juice outlaw ? some similarities ?
    Great vid as always :D

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very different to my tastes - Gem juice is a quenching and bright ripe PuErh with more tang in the finish whereas Sugarnut is more herbal and sweet with nuts and meringues.

  • @emmanuelsolorzano8813
    @emmanuelsolorzano8813 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean by " boiling the leaves" for 10-15 minutes? What is that process? Is it just to see if it still colours the water or is it a method to extract to the very last drop and drink it?

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean that you take the leaves and place them in a saucepan with water and bring to the boil and extract for 10-15 minutes. This is commonly used to get one last infusion out of very long-lasting leaves like aged white tea. Yes you drink the tea!

    • @emmanuelsolorzano8813
      @emmanuelsolorzano8813 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeiLeaf Thank you! I Really like to watch your videos and learn from you.

  • @changingmediums965
    @changingmediums965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang I didn’t get any :( Anyone procure enough to sell/trade? Cody from San Diego

  • @darrensucksatgames
    @darrensucksatgames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I’m an ‘80s baby, and I’m confident saying it probably aged better than I did! 🤣

  • @ahmedov1399
    @ahmedov1399 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened to the tea ? why no longer available ?

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We sold out but we are trying to get more from our friend in China.

  • @wendyshoowaiching4161
    @wendyshoowaiching4161 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's why after drinking tea, you don't want to drink water the whole day

  • @Dawggo
    @Dawggo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    uhm, im not picking on you but how do you know what leather tastes like? or wood... some of these tastes are like what the heck were you eating/drinking? lol

  • @VoodooD0g
    @VoodooD0g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    iam drinking that tea right now, i dont like it :o
    puh... one really has to get used to the taste. very interesting

    • @sexysupportgroup345
      @sexysupportgroup345 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comparing to other shu puerhs, what is what you dont like on that tea

    • @VoodooD0g
      @VoodooD0g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sexysupportgroup345 cant compare it to others because this is the only puerh i ever drank

  • @LoveClassicGames
    @LoveClassicGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    isnt a 80`s Puerh tea very expensive? you are driking gold.

  • @marbo.lee.
    @marbo.lee. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol if you have a nut allergy don't drink this 🤣

  • @emmalouie1663
    @emmalouie1663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda gross how dirty tea is. What other food production method would allow someone to walk around with dirty shoes on top of the preparation table.

  • @vasilileung2204
    @vasilileung2204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much fake shit out there. I stay away from puerh

  • @rincosmerta
    @rincosmerta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If someone offers to give you 7.5 million dollars to never smell, touch, drink tea again would you accept?

    • @MeiLeaf
      @MeiLeaf  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Easy answer - no. Richness is all about experience rather than bank balance and while 7.5m would be able to buy lots of experiences, I doubt any of them would compare with the richness that a daily tea session brings to my life.

    • @dnmotley
      @dnmotley 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make it 7.6 million and you've got a deal. ;-)