Wade was (and at times still is) a great player. But at no point has he ever been better than Lebron. He was more clutch and at times a better scorer, but he wasn't as good overall as Lebron. Maybe he could've been if he had added a 3 point shot, but we'll never know.
lebron is just now developing his 3 point game he was never consistent with it before, and dwade is the best player pound for pound since allen iverson. The only reason he doesnt score or assist as much is because prior to lebron joining them, he had a terrible supporting cast full of old or extremely young players. Lebrons teams were shit too but not as bad as miamis supporting cast. Even now dwade makes a bunch of great passes but they simply dont convert
***** being small doesnt have its advantages in a game like basketball, it doesnt gurantee youre faster or stronger or anything, smaller players generally have to stay at the top of the key. being bigger is clearly an advantage in basketball if kevin durant or lebron were wades size, theyd still be phenomenal but not nearly as good. Being bigger gives you longer arms, longer legs so you can go over defenders much easier, being smaller forces you to have to maneuver around your defenders, something wade in his prime did and he would also go straight at them as if he was a big man which is why his body took so much abuse.
Wait guys, even if your small, or big, that personifies on how great you are, Spud Webb can dunk and he is 5'7, Nate Robinson is 5'9 and he dunks too, Muggsy Bogues, a great defender and passer, as for big man like LeBron, big fast and strong, wait, I made a rhyme!
Id have to say something about that though.. when you think about it Wade led the league in scoring in 09 and was crazy dominant! Lebron won MVP only because he had a better record but wade was like top 20 in blocks! was shooting the three very nicely that season still needed some work on that though and besides that was top 5 i believe in steals maybe even led at some points in the season, and ofcourse like always clutch all the way through! if he did all this WITHOUT a great three point shot and If he stayed healthy plus never formed aliance with lebron. Hes basically just as good as lebron without a three.... says alot when you think about it man. All that was missing was a three point shot he can fall back on and he wouldve been imo better than lebron
against the knicks???? maybe by the Pacers in the semis.and lets not forget,that Wade was injured,and u and i both know that! there were games that James took over,and vice versa! in the finals?? absolutely,James was THE man!
they couldve been best if wade wasnt so injury prone and dealing with two bad knees 3 out of the 4 years together :( im gonna miss this D.Wade... i dont think he cares much about being a top contender anymore i think the age thing has gotten to his head
ya lebron is an amazing passer which allowed him to go catch and overall gave him more oppurtunities when lebron had the ball this probably was the same for delonte
What? Did the commentator just say Mo Williams and Delonte West are 'one of the best backcourts in the NBA'? WHAT WAS HE SMOKING AND WHERE CAN I GET IT?
at 75% and Bosh is about 65-70%. Not to mention Chalmers whose almost 18 ppg when Wade is gone. When Wade hasn't played the heat, Their offense is unstoppable. Wade is better than Bosh but not more valuable to Miami. Just look at what happened last year: They destroy the lakers with Bosh(no Wade) and then get clobbered with Wade (no Bosh). 32-17 this year when Wade is a starter. If Wade sat out a year I bet Miami would get 73 wins.
i have an idea. lets all get together when everyone else gets old and we can win championships together instead of competing for them, it will be soooo easy
all you proved is lebron is more efficient lebron takes way less 3s than kobe im sorry to say but do not compare lebron shot to kobe and i personally hate both players
if you look at lebrons supporting cast, it wasnt much better than dwade's supporting cast when miami was constantly a low playoff seed. that tells you how great lebron was in regular seasons
Looking at these almost, two decades old games, LeBron was unbelievable and Wade was terrific! If he and Wade had teamed up, a few years earlier, they would have won four or five chips. LeBron is still fast but he ain’t this version of LeBron fast.
@kyrell rellytv actually it does not sound like Boston at all. Miami had 3 of the top 12 players in the league all younger than 30. Lebron & Bosh (26) and Wade (29). Boston absolutely DID NOT have 3 of the top 12 I can argue they didn't have 3 of the top 20 and they were all 30 and older. PAST THEIR PRIME. They were traded to Boston not Free Agents int heir prime getting together when in fact they should be carrying their teams and competing unlike Miami, struggling vs old teams
this was last season... Bron and Wade were hurt after losing to the hawks last year and then in triple ot bosh won by himself. Wade is better I've been saying that. But better does not equate to value. Think about it this way: Steve Smith would be more valuable to a team like New England than Aaron Rodgers even though Rodgers is way better. Likewise Phillip Rivers would be more valuable to the 49ers than Calvin Johnson. It's not about who's better its about who can do more for the team.
As far as number 2, Chris Bosh has more to offer to Miami than Dwade. This is because he can do things and fill gaps Lebron can't. When it was just Lebron and/or Bosh both were able to put up the best numbers of their careers so far and the team is winning over 94% of it's games. But the same teams they blew out they got beat when Wade was playing. When Wade plays Lebron has to play bigger which hinders both Lebron and Bosh. Wade is one of my favorite players but I'm not blind
Just go to basketball reference. You have to actually sift through these games and numbers on your own and here are things to consider: -Lebron and Wade do much of the same things. -Lebron does it better. - 97% of the time you never see the big 3 have great games together(someone ALWAYS has a bad night shooting) -32-17(with) versus 12-1(without). and further more miami's record when Wade shoots 16 or fewer baskets is 15-4 versus 17-12! But with Lebron and Bosh its the OPPOSITE.
they blew out the spurs and the lakers and handed the pacers their worst loss of the season. Lebron at 35-9-9 a game, Bosh at 25-12 a game. They'd miss Wade in the playoffs but in the regular season he's a detriment. Subtracting Wade and Bosh, Lebron still has better teammates than any of his cleveland teams. and he's won 60+ twice. (both times within the fist 75 games) add Bosh and their is a 70+ win team. Now add wade and you get 55-59ish. When Wade is on the court, Lebron statistically is
in 2012 heat were 12-1 with without wade with lebron and/or bosh. 16-1 since 2011. When Wade doesn't play the heat's offense is ridiculous Fastbreak looks like it's on 'roids. Not that Wade is not a great player (top 5 at least) but he tries to do too much by himself. Statistically, when Wade doesn't play, Lebron and Bosh almost make up the difference. which means Wade's contribution is close to o or detrimental. That's why Chris Bosh is their 2nd mvp. That being said Wade is still a boss.
Im pretty sure i said HE WAS TORONTO. he was the reason they were going to the playoffs. look at what wade did without Lebron and bosh and a decent team, lost in the playoffs. same with Lebron. i'll say wade got a championship, but that's cause he had a helpful Shaq. Of course Bosh didn't go to the playoffs cause he was the only guy that put up points on the team.
lol bosh more valuable then wade. your only looking at 17 games (16-1). if wade didn't play all season they would win less games. and do you relay think Miami has more fastbreaks without wade? he gets the most steals on the team, and it always him allying to lebron.wade is the 2nd best PLAYER on the team, and hes the most loved PERSON on the team.
ok whatever you say. i have nothing to say because you spit random stats. wade leaves lbj and bosh play longer then get tired earlier in the year and win less. have fun dreaming about wade not playing but thats not happening for another 7 years
Bruh, wade was like a mini lebron back in those days. Remember wade used to do chase down blocks too... ppl must of forgot. Too bad his knees breaking down on him tho
Lebron made them look good. All their passes to him were guaranteed scores. Inflated their assists. And all of Lebron's assists out of a double team gave them open shots. Inflated their points.
I miss these games... It was such a healthy rivalry!
Wade was (and at times still is) a great player. But at no point has he ever been better than Lebron. He was more clutch and at times a better scorer, but he wasn't as good overall as Lebron. Maybe he could've been if he had added a 3 point shot, but we'll never know.
lebron is just now developing his 3 point game he was never consistent with it before, and dwade is the best player pound for pound since allen iverson. The only reason he doesnt score or assist as much is because prior to lebron joining them, he had a terrible supporting cast full of old or extremely young players. Lebrons teams were shit too but not as bad as miamis supporting cast. Even now dwade makes a bunch of great passes but they simply dont convert
***** being small doesnt have its advantages in a game like basketball, it doesnt gurantee youre faster or stronger or anything, smaller players generally have to stay at the top of the key. being bigger is clearly an advantage in basketball if kevin durant or lebron were wades size, theyd still be phenomenal but not nearly as good. Being bigger gives you longer arms, longer legs so you can go over defenders much easier, being smaller forces you to have to maneuver around your defenders, something wade in his prime did and he would also go straight at them as if he was a big man which is why his body took so much abuse.
Wait guys, even if your small, or big, that personifies on how great you are, Spud Webb can dunk and he is 5'7, Nate Robinson is 5'9 and he dunks too, Muggsy Bogues, a great defender and passer, as for big man like LeBron, big fast and strong, wait, I made a rhyme!
Id have to say something about that though.. when you think about it Wade led the league in scoring in 09 and was crazy dominant! Lebron won MVP only because he had a better record but wade was like top 20 in blocks! was shooting the three very nicely that season still needed some work on that though and besides that was top 5 i believe in steals maybe even led at some points in the season, and ofcourse like always clutch all the way through! if he did all this WITHOUT a great three point shot and If he stayed healthy plus never formed aliance with lebron. Hes basically just as good as lebron without a three.... says alot when you think about it man. All that was missing was a three point shot he can fall back on and he wouldve been imo better than lebron
You are crazy lol get off lebron lol
Back in the days, they used to go at it!!!!!
If Wade never gets injured, he's easily the best player since Jordan.
9:57 That was simply beautiful... a real game of basketball
Wade was the best player period 2005, 2006, 2008, 2011
bosh put up 24 and 12. they were going to the playoffs but bosh broke his nose in a key game. he was toronto.
Well they averaged a combined for 30+ points, Mo was an allstar and delonte played exceptional
Wade should have won the MVP in this year.
when dwade was the best player in the world, smh i miss this fuck injuries
against the knicks???? maybe by the Pacers in the semis.and lets not forget,that Wade was injured,and u and i both know that! there were games that James took over,and vice versa! in the finals?? absolutely,James was THE man!
Wade Vs LeBron best head to head match
Lets just face it, they should have never teamed up, we could have saw so many more battles like this.
Now we can, hope D-wade's knees hold up.
but we saw an awesome partnership and best duo in nba
ThePeKk1 wouldn't say "best" but both teams are still contenders in my book, atleast in the eastern conference.
they couldve been best if wade wasnt so injury prone and dealing with two bad knees 3 out of the 4 years together :( im gonna miss this D.Wade... i dont think he cares much about being a top contender anymore i think the age thing has gotten to his head
I miss this wade
the best battle they ever had
ya lebron is an amazing passer which allowed him to go catch and overall gave him more oppurtunities when lebron had the ball this probably was the same for delonte
the day when two mj competing on floor
lol oh my god. that last dunk.
OH YES HE WAS!!!!
Those who say he isnt should watch this game right here
Type in nba playoffs 2011 lebron clutch moments
Clutch is something they both got, just stop hating....
LeBron using all that powder...
In that era i think d'wade better than kobe...
If only Lebron had better teammates in cleveland, that's probably one of the worst supporting casts ever.
lebron had a much better supporting cast at the time
2013 gona be just as good if not better
if we could get this lebron james and fuse him with the post game lebron james, we would have the greatest player of all time
Now that LeBron James is back in Cleveland, I hope we get THIS Dwyane Wade back!
Didnt get him with a Prime LBJ to take the load off his hands. Wont get him without LBJ
What? Did the commentator just say Mo Williams and Delonte West are 'one of the best backcourts in the NBA'? WHAT WAS HE SMOKING AND WHERE CAN I GET IT?
i miss seeing them go head to head
That sounds like the Celtics before their 2008 title run... Oh wait.. u meant the heat? Because I remember Boston doing it first....
And just two seasons later he would be doing this for the Heat
at 75% and Bosh is about 65-70%. Not to mention Chalmers whose almost 18 ppg when Wade is gone. When Wade hasn't played the heat, Their offense is unstoppable. Wade is better than Bosh but not more valuable to Miami. Just look at what happened last year: They destroy the lakers with Bosh(no Wade) and then get clobbered with Wade (no Bosh). 32-17 this year when Wade is a starter. If Wade sat out a year I bet Miami would get 73 wins.
because of Lebron. How do you think Mo Williams got to be All-Star?
i have an idea. lets all get together when everyone else gets old and we can win championships together instead of competing for them, it will be soooo easy
I think you can make an argument Wade was as good as Lebron from 2008-2010 but Wade was never flat out better than Lebron.
I miss Flash...
say what u want,man thats the truth...he had 2 go 2 miami for that ring!
If Lebron only went to La and Melo to Miami...that would've been like grandma's kool-aid SWEEEEEEEEET
i say heat wouldve won 3 lakers win 2
eatingrealgood I say Melo doesn't win Championships lol and I love that guy, but he just doesn't have "it".
13:29 "Thats what great players do Eric take over the game at clutch time!" The Fuck you haters mean ?????
Wade was def better than lebron in like 05 and 06 and it was up I'm the wire around this time.
But LeBron at this time smh freaking unstoppable.
actually he is.. and he was pretty hurt most of the time.
look at these performances and then look at them rosters hahahaha
With stuff like this I don't understand why his nickname is Lechoke...
Just Classic!
Which team does the refs help more for all you Miami Heat haters who seems to think the refs favors the Heat..?
how is mo williams and delonte west one of the better backcourts in the NBA??
11:00 Dwade shakes lebron
I predict they will become teammates in 2010😂
yet he won the ring in MIAMI?!?!
the jazz
This Game Should End All The LeBron CluTch talks.
nah, lebron got them to the finals.. but didnt do anything when he got there lol
Wade was never better than LeBron, maybe as good for one season. But never superior.
kobe been in the league longer so he has more missed and made shots then LeBron. so that's pretty bad that they have the same career 3 point average.
Uh-huh... Who won FMVP again...?
all you proved is lebron is more efficient lebron takes way less 3s than kobe im sorry to say but do not compare lebron shot to kobe and i personally hate both players
so basically..lebron is more efficient?? what's your argument...
the stats dont say dat
the worst was allen iversons team
yeah but lebron was younger than him so he had to learn a few
things
i really think wade is jealous of lebron deep down
haha well said ma dude
dats when WADE needed more players cuz everybody sucked
Haha too bad Moon had like 6 good games as a heater
not if u practice the shot in game situations
Kobe has taken more 3s than Lebron and still average same procentage
nice try though
ok
YOU ARE BUGGING!!
Man "gtfo !"
mostly mo
lol cleveland was so ass..i can see why lebron left. they play no d
Lebron is not clutch anymore in miami
lebron is better
Wade is just so much better than Lebron seriously
😂😂😂
I called off work to watch this game the fact it wasn't on national TV is crazy
that acrobatic layup to start the game was crazy then that dunk at the end ...mannnn... young lebron
Lebrain 13:18 LMFAO!!!
if you look at lebrons supporting cast, it wasnt much better than dwade's supporting cast when miami was constantly a low playoff seed. that tells you how great lebron was in regular seasons
Mo Williams was an Allstar that year
and mo was never an all star again after lebron left
nope i would take wade over bosh any day of the week. in the clutch wade can create his own shot. bosh cant. the end
Lebron at the end...2 three pointers and a huge dunk.
He's not clutch at all.
Dwyane was better in 05 06 and in my opinion 09.
Nah. 06 sure but not 09. Go watch what Bron did to the same Hawks team that eliminated Wade in 09
Looking at these almost, two decades old games, LeBron was unbelievable and Wade was terrific! If he and Wade had teamed up, a few years earlier, they would have won four or five chips. LeBron is still fast but he ain’t this version of LeBron fast.
dwayne wade was better than lebron in young time
Pat Riley is in the audience thinking "Soon"
Those 2 are on my favorite all time players list(also in the top 5)😂😂😂
Lebron always won against wade
@kyrell rellytv
actually it does not sound like Boston at all.
Miami had 3 of the top 12 players in the league all younger than 30. Lebron & Bosh (26) and Wade (29).
Boston absolutely DID NOT have 3 of the top 12 I can argue they didn't have 3 of the top 20 and they were all 30 and older. PAST THEIR PRIME.
They were traded to Boston not Free Agents int heir prime getting together when in fact they should be carrying their teams and competing unlike Miami, struggling vs old teams
this was last season... Bron and Wade were hurt after losing to the hawks last year and then in triple ot bosh won by himself. Wade is better I've been saying that. But better does not equate to value.
Think about it this way: Steve Smith would be more valuable to a team like New England than Aaron Rodgers even though Rodgers is way better. Likewise Phillip Rivers would be more valuable to the 49ers than Calvin Johnson. It's not about who's better its about who can do more for the team.
As far as number 2, Chris Bosh has more to offer to Miami than Dwade. This is because he can do things and fill gaps Lebron can't. When it was just Lebron and/or Bosh both were able to put up the best numbers of their careers so far and the team is winning over 94% of it's games. But the same teams they blew out they got beat when Wade was playing. When Wade plays Lebron has to play bigger which hinders both Lebron and Bosh. Wade is one of my favorite players but I'm not blind
Just go to basketball reference. You have to actually sift through these games and numbers on your own and here are things to consider:
-Lebron and Wade do much of the same things.
-Lebron does it better.
- 97% of the time you never see the big 3 have great games together(someone ALWAYS has a bad night shooting)
-32-17(with) versus 12-1(without). and further more miami's record when Wade shoots 16 or fewer baskets is 15-4 versus 17-12! But with Lebron and Bosh its the OPPOSITE.
they blew out the spurs and the lakers and handed the pacers their worst loss of the season. Lebron at 35-9-9 a game, Bosh at 25-12 a game. They'd miss Wade in the playoffs but in the regular season he's a detriment. Subtracting Wade and Bosh, Lebron still has better teammates than any of his cleveland teams. and he's won 60+ twice. (both times within the fist 75 games) add Bosh and their is a 70+ win team. Now add wade and you get 55-59ish. When Wade is on the court, Lebron statistically is
in 2012 heat were 12-1 with without wade with lebron and/or bosh. 16-1 since 2011. When Wade doesn't play the heat's offense is ridiculous Fastbreak looks like it's on 'roids. Not that Wade is not a great player (top 5 at least) but he tries to do too much by himself. Statistically, when Wade doesn't play, Lebron and Bosh almost make up the difference. which means Wade's contribution is close to o or detrimental. That's why Chris Bosh is their 2nd mvp. That being said Wade is still a boss.
Im pretty sure i said HE WAS TORONTO. he was the reason they were going to the playoffs. look at what wade did without Lebron and bosh and a decent team, lost in the playoffs. same with Lebron. i'll say wade got a championship, but that's cause he had a helpful Shaq. Of course Bosh didn't go to the playoffs cause he was the only guy that put up points on the team.
lol bosh more valuable then wade. your only looking at 17 games (16-1). if wade didn't play all season they would win less games. and do you relay think Miami has more fastbreaks without wade? he gets the most steals on the team, and it always him allying to lebron.wade is the 2nd best PLAYER on the team, and hes the most loved PERSON on the team.
ok whatever you say. i have nothing to say because you spit random stats. wade leaves lbj and bosh play longer then get tired earlier in the year and win less. have fun dreaming about wade not playing but thats not happening for another 7 years
Bruh, wade was like a mini lebron back in those days. Remember wade used to do chase down blocks too... ppl must of forgot. Too bad his knees breaking down on him tho
Lebron made them look good. All their passes to him were guaranteed scores. Inflated their assists. And all of Lebron's assists out of a double team gave them open shots. Inflated their points.
Lebron's #2 option was Mo Williams that should tell u there what kind if squad he had to work with......