if the AMA brought them back, im sure the companies will start making them again. theres alot of people out there that would love to race 2 strokes in the AMA
the point of watching motocross , is that is a great sport and even if james stewart arrives first all the time it s nice to see who could beat him , if you don t like motocros don t watch it, now one is forcing you
@j4m35ac is a mixture of getting the right rider on a good bike(they are all pretty much the same when it comes to performance in the pro class) and having the right team manager/trainer teaching them how to improve. its mostly rider when it comes down to it.
i just started riding motocross, so maybe i dont know shit, but if one were to think of 'perfect form' this is what comes to my mind, his cornering technique alone is flawless. windham is pretty good too but he was pro when bub was learning fractions..
I've always been amazed at what the top guys could do on a 125. My weakass 125 wouldn't jump half what they did (well maybe with a top guy riding it). Regardless I always loved this class and wish it would be come back although it's pretty much a 125 pitbike now.
Maybe, but for these pros, ama pros, they are racing for their lives. They have to bring the dough. And in reality, a 2 stroke just cant compete with a 4 stroke anymore. Fun or not. Until you realize that these guys really do need "the best" to win, you will never get it.
How could something that costs more, makes less power, is heavier, has more moving parts, and requires more maintenance be more advanced? 2 strokes for life!
"Bubba will be the best supercross rider ever"....7 years later, he's still only 1/2 way to Jeremy's record :) Keep working, but I doubt he get's there
@iuliuspeverini umm put a pro circuit works pipe on it to give you more top end get a tire that has lots of space between the lugs to give you better traciton for the back put a mx51 on the front over sized front brake rotor and play with the suspension to set it up for where you like it on set it more for the bigger jumps you hit so it wont hurt as much if you case/over shoot a jump
ive got a 144 KTM and im wonderin if i should get a 250F but i dont no if i would get along with a four stroke! if anyone has rode a 2 stroke and gone up to 4 please can you tell me what you think!
@ccoady750 They never changed the rules. It's always been like that since a 4 stroke first won the championship, that was 5 months ago, i'm not starting another rage war with someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
@bradthornton123 if ur used to 2 strokes, stay with 2 strokes. youl hate a 4 stroke if ur used to 2 strokes. my friend has a kx 250f and i used to love it but now since i have a 2 stroke i hate his
i was there and everytime stewart passed my section of seats these racist ppl would Boo him and yell u suck just because hes black. he is a great rider and it is pathetic that ppl are like that
one question if RC is better how come stewart can beet him? just because yhes been around more and he has a couple more trophys doesent mean hes better. and he got the trophys when stewart was in lites.
@reed22racer Youre nuts. They can easily compete, it's just that the AMA CHANGED the rules giving the 4 strokes a HUGE displacement advantage. I mean seriously, 125cc 2 stroke vs. 250cc 4 strokes and you (AMA) think that's fair? 250cc 2 stroke blows away 250 4 stroke.
"i can ride" If you could ride you would know what size bike fits you. 125 = to slow go for a 250. Also a used 125 will most likely have problems becuz usually young kids own them and they do not know how to treat their bikes. 125 Also needs rebuilt allot more often then a 250 (specially if you race) I ride a RM 250 and I like it much better then a RMZ 450. But there are those who are brainwashed and think 450s are better.. they're wrong but its a personal choice.
@ccoady750 See, here's where you're wrong. I've got proof I race, it's called results. The fact that I play MX games just proves I love doing stuff about motocross. As for the 2 stroke being more powerful as a 4 stroke? It all depends on what you're talking about, you can't just throw out there "2 strokes are more powerful than 4 strokes" because you could be talking about a 65 vs a 450. I'll agree that a 250 2 is faster than a 250 4, simply because i've ridden them both.
@spo123328 I think they make most of their money on parts sales. Just look how much a pipe is for a 2 stroke then compare it to the 4 stroke. The 2 stroke is twice the size buy over half the price. Also the fact that the (4 stroke) bikes are so expensive to rebuild, that the serious riders will buy a new bike instead of fixing their blown up thumper. More an more 4 stroke riders are forced to quit racing because of the cost. I'll stick with amateur racing on a 250 two stroke.
if they put as much money slash time into 2 smokes as they did 4 strokes everybody or at least more people would ride 2 strokes. james could ride a 50 and kick these guys asses.
so ur saying that 4 strokes arent advanced. umm hot tip 4 strokes are quiker then 2 strokes. my 250 r smashes a 125 an my bro has a ktm 250 sx factory race bike an the 450r is qwiker then that. 2 strokes are fun but harder to ride an outdated.
pastrana's A.D.D. was his downfall. the guy could not concentrate long enough to finish a moto. his mind would drift, and he would be taking a dirtnap. easily the most physically talented rider of all time,but the A.D.D. killed his racing career.
brandon k he’s never been the same after his thumb injury in 09’ it was a career ending injury for anyone. That’s when we saw a drop off, yet he was still the fastest.
@ccoady750 As for knowing more about engines than my dad? He was a tech for 15 years on top of being the mechanic for his bike since he was 11... he's 55 now, so you're saying someone who's been doing it for 44 years, longer than you've been alive on this planet, doesn't know more about it than you? You've got some problems, major problems if you think so. Anyways, I don't have to prove anything to you, but i'll gladly give you my FB to show you I do race, A fuckin hell of a lot faster than you
WRONG!!! the reason that supercross and motocross switched to 4 strokes is because FIM and enviromentalist threw a fit that 2 strokes make to much polluiton and theyre right. 4 STROKES ALLTHE WAY!!!!
i hate all your 2 stroke haters you have no idea what your talking about, the only reason most people are going to 4 strokes is because there easier to ride and a 250 4 stroke vs a 250 4 stroke whos gonna win thats right the two stroke
Man watchin old bubba back in his 125 days always reminds me just how badass he is. He certainly raised the bar back then & even now.
Genius pieces of machinery, 2-strokes are.
stewart, this guy is amazing
if the AMA brought them back, im sure the companies will start making them again. theres alot of people out there that would love to race 2 strokes in the AMA
the point of watching motocross , is that is a great sport and even if james stewart arrives first all the time it s nice to see who could beat him , if you don t like motocros don t watch it, now one is forcing you
Damn i miss the sounds of 2 strokes at races :(
@j4m35ac is a mixture of getting the right rider on a good bike(they are all pretty much the same when it comes to performance in the pro class) and having the right team manager/trainer teaching them how to improve. its mostly rider when it comes down to it.
i just started riding motocross, so maybe i dont know shit, but if one were to think of 'perfect form' this is what comes to my mind, his cornering technique alone is flawless. windham is pretty good too but he was pro when bub was learning fractions..
I've always been amazed at what the top guys could do on a 125. My weakass 125 wouldn't jump half what they did (well maybe with a top guy riding it). Regardless I always loved this class and wish it would be come back although it's pretty much a 125 pitbike now.
Look at that 2-stroke out front!
Maybe, but for these pros, ama pros, they are racing for their lives. They have to bring the dough. And in reality, a 2 stroke just cant compete with a 4 stroke anymore. Fun or not. Until you realize that these guys really do need "the best" to win, you will never get it.
All the hype of Jett Lawrence doesn’t even come remotely close to wot bubba did in his first debut year ,, I miss seeing JS7 line up on a weekend.
1:46 butterfinger hole-shot ftw lol
1:50 Crispity Crunchy Bubba Stewart Hole Finger Holeshot!
How could something that costs more, makes less power, is heavier, has more moving parts, and requires more maintenance be more advanced? 2 strokes for life!
"Bubba will be the best supercross rider ever"....7 years later, he's still only 1/2 way to Jeremy's record :) Keep working, but I doubt he get's there
McGrath's record will never be broken. 2nd all-time ain't to bad.
Mcgrath only has that many because he went strictly supercross
those were the days...
jus follow the supercross championship seasons, they on tv. speed chanel n some local chanels sometimes
@iuliuspeverini everything haha. suspension, motor, chassis, exhaust, tires...everything
@iuliuspeverini umm put a pro circuit works pipe on it to give you more top end get a tire that has lots of space between the lugs to give you better traciton for the back put a mx51 on the front over sized front brake rotor and play with the suspension to set it up for where you like it on set it more for the bigger jumps you hit so it wont hurt as much if you case/over shoot a jump
two strokes are the best!!!!
bubba is the king
dam gota miss the two stroke days
gosh that dude is fast!
He lapped villopoto at the end of the video!
hell yeah
He is riding two in this video but he is on four right now.
hahaha i heard that also. hole finger hole shot. probably thinking bout 'another racin' that night.
I want to see Jame's race a 125 aginst the 450 class. See how he dose.
VIVA LA 2-STROKE!!!!!!
they do
it´s a Dream ..!!
anyone else notice how the top riders where the last to switch to 4-stroke? kinda funny :-P
Nice that's the bike I have 04 kx125 yeah
do u think the japanese companies are gonna start making 125 4-stroke mx bikes? that would be different
@MetricHotrodsdotcom yeah. he is the reason i ride :) i have A.D.D and A.D.H.D. i plan to race this year. wish me luck lol
Did he just refer to bubba as "crispity crunchity"...? Lol
ive got a 144 KTM and im wonderin if i should get a 250F but i dont no if i would get along with a four stroke! if anyone has rode a 2 stroke and gone up to 4 please can you tell me what you think!
the way superx should be
they should start putting helmet cams on riders for the supercross going on now
@elleboz he said butter finger hole shot
idk pastrana was 16 on a 125 and stewart was older so he probably had more experience
haha thats all u can come up with. that sounds like something my 10 year old little brother would say
@ccoady750 They never changed the rules. It's always been like that since a 4 stroke first won the championship, that was 5 months ago, i'm not starting another rage war with someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
@bradthornton123 if ur used to 2 strokes, stay with 2 strokes. youl hate a 4 stroke if ur used to 2 strokes. my friend has a kx 250f and i used to love it but now since i have a 2 stroke i hate his
well give you a cookie
butterfinger holeshot...ha they didnt think that one through
hey i wanna upgrade my yz 125 for racing. what do those guys upgrade for racing?
ya but whats going to win, 250 2 stoke or 450 4 stoke?
i was there
ha ha ''hole finger shot'' lol
im 195 lbs. would i fit a 125 2stroke, i can ride. so i think a 125 is small, either that or 250 2 stroke
6 people are forest rangers
That's a pretty big difference on an MX track..
Make sure you get some practice time on a mx track before you sign up to race, trust me, this sport is not as easy as it looks.
why do they turn theyre wheel while there in the air. i dont race mx just asking
i think they kinda maybe sold out to butter finger with the whole holeshot thing...
i was there and everytime stewart passed my section of seats these racist ppl would Boo him and yell u suck just because hes black. he is a great rider and it is pathetic that ppl are like that
if that is true, how come no one is running two strokes in ama pro raceing. is it just a cawincedence?
who do u think was faster on a 125, pastrana or stewart?
You could have put Bubba on that broken down POS 2000 Cannondale bike and he still would have smoked the field.
James Stewart. is fucking nice :)
one question if RC is better how come stewart can beet him? just because yhes been around more and he has a couple more trophys doesent mean hes better.
and he got the trophys when stewart was in lites.
@reed22racer
Youre nuts. They can easily compete, it's just that the AMA CHANGED the rules giving the 4 strokes a HUGE displacement advantage. I mean seriously, 125cc 2 stroke vs. 250cc 4 strokes and you (AMA) think that's fair? 250cc 2 stroke blows away 250 4 stroke.
why cant he be like this now !
butterfinger holeshot just sounds dirty
"i can ride"
If you could ride you would know what size bike fits you.
125 = to slow go for a 250. Also a used 125 will most likely have problems becuz usually young kids own them and they do not know how to treat their bikes. 125 Also needs rebuilt allot more often then a 250 (specially if you race)
I ride a RM 250 and I like it much better then a RMZ 450.
But there are those who are brainwashed and think 450s are better.. they're wrong but its a personal choice.
@ccoady750 See, here's where you're wrong. I've got proof I race, it's called results. The fact that I play MX games just proves I love doing stuff about motocross. As for the 2 stroke being more powerful as a 4 stroke? It all depends on what you're talking about, you can't just throw out there "2 strokes are more powerful than 4 strokes" because you could be talking about a 65 vs a 450. I'll agree that a 250 2 is faster than a 250 4, simply because i've ridden them both.
yea i agree, i think carmicheal is better too
im 15 and 5 ft and i ride a ktm exc 200
i think Kawasaki and Ktm are best motocross bikes
@spo123328
I think they make most of their money on parts sales. Just look how much a pipe is for a 2 stroke then compare it to the 4 stroke. The 2 stroke is twice the size buy over half the price. Also the fact that the (4 stroke) bikes are so expensive to rebuild, that the serious riders will buy a new bike instead of fixing their blown up thumper. More an more 4 stroke riders are forced to quit racing because of the cost. I'll stick with amateur racing on a 250 two stroke.
no it is the truth if you like carmicheal good for you but you cant say hes better then bubba
at a dirtbike track :)
no its 18
I miss 2 strokes
they do what??
suzuki rm 125 , when i go bigger ofc ktm 250 or 350.
if they put as much money slash time into 2 smokes as they did 4 strokes everybody or at least more people would ride 2 strokes. james could ride a 50 and kick these guys asses.
no its 16
so ur saying that 4 strokes arent advanced. umm hot tip 4 strokes are quiker then 2 strokes. my 250 r smashes a 125 an my bro has a ktm 250 sx factory race bike an the 450r is qwiker then that. 2 strokes are fun but harder to ride an outdated.
they were still saying crispity crunchity in 2004? Sheesh..
james stewat hole finger
@elleboz ahahha i heard that
holefinger holeshot
Not Villopoto....some lapper.
Not Villopoto.
w 2 stokes
stewart was wayyy faster then pastrana on a 125 no dout
pastrana's A.D.D. was his downfall. the guy could not concentrate long enough to finish a moto. his mind would drift, and he would be taking a dirtnap. easily the most physically talented rider of all time,but the A.D.D. killed his racing career.
@reed22racer
5 months ago? Now really, who doesn't know wht they're talking about?
What happen HHS doesn't ride like this anymore
brandon k he’s never been the same after his thumb injury in 09’ it was a career ending injury for anyone. That’s when we saw a drop off, yet he was still the fastest.
@elleboz hahahaha
if u can rip and ride an 85 2 stroke ok you'll be fine on a 125
lol true it sucks now a days
@ccoady750 As for knowing more about engines than my dad? He was a tech for 15 years on top of being the mechanic for his bike since he was 11... he's 55 now, so you're saying someone who's been doing it for 44 years, longer than you've been alive on this planet, doesn't know more about it than you? You've got some problems, major problems if you think so. Anyways, I don't have to prove anything to you, but i'll gladly give you my FB to show you I do race, A fuckin hell of a lot faster than you
WRONG!!! the reason that supercross and motocross switched to 4 strokes is because FIM and enviromentalist threw a fit that 2 strokes make to much polluiton and theyre right. 4 STROKES ALLTHE WAY!!!!
lol no, it's because they ride what there paid to ride trust me if they were paid to ride 2 strokes don't you think they would.
TSFL
i hate all your 2 stroke haters you have no idea what your talking about, the only reason most people are going to 4 strokes is because there easier to ride and a 250 4 stroke vs a 250 4 stroke whos gonna win thats right the two stroke