President Nelson' Grandfather's Visit from the other side of the Veil and Family History Work
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- President and Sister Nelson - Rootstech Family Discovery Day Opening Session 2017
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I’m having chills right now. My grandma who passed away 10 years ago, appeared to me few weeks ago. She did it 3 times during the last few days... I thought I was going nuts. Then I prayed to our father in heaven to get some confirmation. And now this video pop up on my TH-cam suggesting it to me...God! Thank you! Your ways are amazingly beautiful.
Why are you speaking with the dead? God calls that an abomination.
Joseph Smith himself spoke with the dead, Peter, James and John and John the Baptist.
Christ said the dead cannot return.
Joseph Smith was anointed by demons impersonating these dead men.
President Nelson is showing his true colors.
Isaiah 8:19
When they say to you, “Consult the mediums and the spiritists who whisper and mutter,” should not a people consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living?
Strong Tower Strong Tower I think you are miss understanding the point, the abomination is to invoked or consult, pray or any kind of rituals to call up spirits. Also the dead can not return “physically” but spiritually in the Bible are many evidences that spiritual world exist and only if they are revealed to us won’t offend God. I’m not sure what true colors are you talking about, and obviously you are miss guided. The promise is that if you ask directly to God you will get your answers. Your statement proofs that you did not kneel yourself to ask with a contract spirit. If a person trust it’s own will and wisdom it can’t reach a better stay of consciousness or understanding. I’m order to get to understand wonder, you need to understand things in the holly ghost, not in his own logic.
@@Deadshot-oo3wh As a Christian, I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me.
I have asked God directly and God has told me it is wrong to speak with the dead.
I don't pray to your Heavenly Father of course.
I worship the true and living God that the Bible speaks of.
Strong Tower may God bless you in your faith and help you to have a strong discernment for your life. My respect to you for loving God. Remember loving him is also loving the neighbors. The holly ghost do not stay in impure temples. When you hate, attack, or do blasphemy, The Holly Ghost doesn’t stay. So be careful with your pride and blindness. It can keep you from getting wonderful blessings.
When a person is in peace and his spirit is connected to God it doesn’t go looking for ways to attack others in their believe. They accept God loves every creature and understands that God will guide the person in his love and own time. That’s why it’s showing to me you are lost looking to fulfill the peace you have not within you.
Trying to convince your self attacking others peoples believe and showing me how a disciple of Christ doesn’t look like.
Many prayers for you.
✌🏼
@@Deadshot-oo3wh Warning someone that they are on their way to outer darkness is the right thing to do. That is not hate, attacking or blasphemy. In fact, God commands me to do that.
I have peace with God. My sins have been forgiven.
Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
I know that I have been perfected.
I know I have eternal life.
I know for sure that I will live with Heavenly Father for all eternity.
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Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
The Holy Spirit will always be with me.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Do you know for sure if you died today where you would spend eternity?
I challenge you to read your Bible as a child, without preconceived ideas.
I was a 45 year old convert to the Church and had a prompting about my brother who died in a car accident at age 28 more than a decade earlier. It came while I was on the loop in Washington and saw the Temple there. One year after I jwas baptised I went to that temple for my endowment and a week later went back to do all of the work for my brother. That was 25 years ago and still strengthens my testimony of the truth that I have experienced. Without the temple there is no hope. We thank thee Oh Lord for a Prophet.
I joined the church at age 18. Around 5-6 months later, my grandfather visited me in a dream. I woke up in tears, having the impression that that was his way of letting me know that he had accepted the gospel. A couple of years later, after being inactive for some time, I decided to re-clean up my life, and go on a mission. After my mission call, I got a letter from the church, encouraging me to bring in my 4-generation family line to the mission field. Then I remembered the dream of my grandfather, and how I hadn't done his work yet. When I went to the family history center, I was disappointed to learn that somebody else had already done my grandfather's work. When I saw the actual dates of when his work was performed (which spanned 2-3 months), my dream of him occurred right near the middle of that 2-3 month window of when he was receiving his ordinances.
You replaced Christ with a temple. How foolish.
@johnrowley310 I love reading the engraved inscription above the front door of all the temples I've seen.
My wife passed in 2010 of cancer every so often she appears to me just to let me know that she loves me and misses everyone she often reminds me about our temple covenants we made together
How sweet is that. I love miracles!
Ooh wow
That's a good one there
To see her, oh wow and be remainder! That's good... I wish for so
julie vine happens fm time to time I really hope we can all go back to church soon sucks not being able to take the sacrament
@@chrislilienthal4592
Have Sacrament at home. The water and bread will have the same molecular structure at home as it would at church.
Davey Jones how’s that possible with me being the only member in my house
My friend passed away years ago,and few weeks I have been missing her and wondering why is she not visiting me in my dreams. I was so sad as we were so close
Then last week Saturday I was preparing for a lesson for Sunday and I came across this video. My question was answered and immediately I felt peace in my heart. I know she is busy doing missionary work on the other side of the veil. She was God fearing woman. Thank you president for this message.i really needed to hear this as I thought my friend has forgotten about me. I really sustain you as a living prophet called to lead the world and God's children.i pray for you and your family.
My brothers and I have all had dreams with my father in them, but none of us can say we've received a visit. I believe there are strict protocols and rules that must be followed otherwise knowing my dad, he would have visited one of us by now. I think, for now we just get to trust in the process and order of things.
@@daniel-a-Lamenite
Millions of people around the world have had friends and family "appear" to them. They're called "Near Death Experiences".
My favorite is Jeff Olsen's NDE....a Mormon guy who's wife and baby were killed in a car crash in which HE was driving.
He has several interviews on TH-cam.
His book is "Mile Marker 80".
@@daveyjones9930 I once went to a fireside where he spoke! I haven't read his book though. I'll have to check out his TH-cam interviews. I know it happens (loved ones visiting from the other side of the vail). Thanks for your comment!
@@daniel-a-Lamenite
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Beautiful testimony. Thank you for sharing!
My brother was murdered some years ago. He was a member but never really lived faithfully. Three days before his horrendous murder took place he felt he wanted to try the LDS church again because he felt something was missing from his life. Long story short...he did make a visit from the spirit world....twice actually....1-3 or 4 days after his murder took place and another visit a few months later....around 8 to be exact. He had been forgiven and wanted to accept the rest of his work. He promised that as long as I was faithful I would be with him again. How I needed that!
My father died in 2014. He was not a member but a few days after he died he visited me. He told me he was sorry and that he loved me. He was not around much when I was a child. He was a alcoholic but in his later years he had quit drinking and smoking. His visit has helped me find closure. My youngest son took his name to the temple and was baptized and confirmed for him. We now have the other ordinances to take care of. I truly believe we are being guided by loved one from beyond the veil.
Dolly Hooks I'm so sorry about the tragedy you and your family faced Dolly, isn't it comforting that you were able to experience that, reassuring you about him, that's kind of what Joseph experienced with his brother Alvin. The priests had told Joseph that there was no hope for Alvin, he couldn't be saved, yet years later, when he was translating the Book of Mormon, it was revealed to him that his brother Alvin was in God's kingdom.
Those are demons,not your relatives!! What is wrong with you people. Stop communicating with the dead. This angers God
A Christian I don’t mean to argue, for I respect your views wholeheartedly. But why would a demon want someone to enter the kingdom of God and live faithfully? I testify of the truthfulness of these people, and I truly urge you to consider reading the Book of Mormon. It testifies of the greatness of our Savior Jesus Christ, and the power of the Priesthood here on earth.
@@Takisarebetterthanfritos sorry you feel this way.
I love that he was willing to share such a personal story with the world!!! He has inspired me to do more family history work!!
President Nelson is a very eloquent speaker and he truly knows how to share messages in a very compassionate format however he is not a prophet of God I was misled my whole life when I was a Mormon believing that they were profits such as Joseph Smith Spencer W Kimball and so on please do not be led astray by the teachings from false prophets they do not teach the pure form of Christianity and what it means to follow Christ John 14:6. www.jesusistheplan.com
@@jesusistheplanthereisnopla5547 Jesus is the way brother. False prophets do exist. But President Nelson isn't one of them.
@@Ether-pb5gb I am sure President Nelson is a nice man however he is not a profit called by God prophets speak for God they do not speak for the world or for a government in Matthew 24 it warns us that there will be many false prophets and times
@@jesusistheplanthereisnopla5547 First off, it's "prophet", not "profit". Those are two different words. I agree, in Matthew 24, it does say that false prophets will arise. 1000% I agree with you on that. But let's look at Matthew 7:15-20 "15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
@@Ether-pb5gb thank you for replying back as a Christian I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and it is always through him but I will return and live in heaven again someday it’s not through a modern day prophet it’s not true Joseph Smith it’s not through the book of Mormon it’s not through tiding it is only through believe in Jesus Christ John 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall be saved and have eternal life in heaven
When I left the church is when I first found peace
Thank you President Nelson. I have seen and felt my great grandfather recently. I saw his face in the clouds and felt prompted to look at family history. I looked at his line and realised he was guiding me there to fix what I'd done wrong. I am so blessed and grateful to have had that recent experience.
My grandmother (my mom's mother), passed away two days shy of my first birthday. I never got to know her but I'm now learning that she's doing very important work in heaven. Thanks President & Sister Nelson!
Oh president nelson how I love you. Thank you for sharing with us. I lost my precious husband of 55 years 4. Years ago last September. All blessing I've had since then said he's with me. Yet I can't feel him and I long for that. At least now I know he's very buzy and I'm happy for him. Thank you
I've have several experiences where my Great-Grandmother spoke to me from the spirit world. Always when I needed encouragement or support. Once, she appeared to me in my mind, but her glory was so great that I only saw a pure white light. I knew it was her though, and I heard her speaking directly to my soul. I am so glad that God allowed me to continue my relationship with her after she died. I know she will be waiting for me on the other side of the veil when it is my time to pass on to the spirit world.
I am so pleased that you are our Prophet today. I'm thankful for the wisdom you receive from Heavenly Father, and the inspiration and revelations you receive to help us get back home to our Father in Heaven. I know God will bless you for all you do for Him in this last dispensation. Thank you so much!!😊😊😇😇
My eternal companion passed 6 years ago, I was okay at first because he had so many illnesses and everytime we sit on the table to take his medication there are 9 pills every morning after breakfast not to mention a injection on his tummy every morning. Heart attack etc… came afterwards the confined on a wheelchair., oh I love him so much that I won’t put him in a rest home. My eldest daughter gave up her work care to stay home and help me look after him., at the same time my mother was also taken ill but living 4 1/2 hours on a plane away. So my daughter would look after my husband 1 week while I travel to visit my mother(she was a dedicated member)… long story short., my eternal companion always visit me for just a short time maybe a Min or 30sec. And that was awesome but then I thought., he’s busy on his mission on the other side and here I am wishing that he would visit me longer. I missed him so much but I am so happy he’s happy serving on the other side. So now I am lucky if he visit once in awhile ❤❤Thank you President Nelson for your guidance we love and support you all❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
Wow this really opened my eyes. My father was a truly good example for me and my brothers and sisters.
He passed about a year after he and my mother served a mission in Salt Lake.
Now my Mother has passed to be with him.
I vow to try and spread the Gospel any way I can and live the commandments to the best of my ability.
God blesa you all.
Are you perfect? Matthew 5:48
Be ye perfect.
You need to be perfect to get into heaven.
@@fayelewis5476 In the words of Elder Holland, we are called to be perfect… eventually ♥️
@@fayelewis5476agreed, thank Heaven for the grace of Christ. " .. for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do." 2 Nephi 25:23. Not even one of us is perfect. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Roman's 3:23 I hope I can earn the grace of Christ. Thank you for the uplift and hope!
I just heard this video for the first time and I was very very touched. My daughter passed last year on February 13th. A few months later I was still in bed one early morning. I could have been dreaming or in a twilight sort of sleep but I had a fleeting glance of my daughter in the spirit world. She seemed to be studying. I immediately felt she was in a class type situation. This presentation has helped to identify more clearly that she was indeed in a refresher course in the spirit world and preparing to move on teaching the message of the Savior to others. For you see, she had always been considered a PEACEMAKER and helped a tremendous amount of people throughout her life. Although I only had a fleeting moment with her, it opened up a world of knowledge and awareness for me. Thank you President and Sister Nelson.
My wife and I were married in WAshington 39.5 years ago - the sxi times we’ve been back to that place - the Washington Temple leaves me in awe anew. Don’t know how all of Washington DC has not been transformed by the spirit that shines from the temple
I will always stand up for all who believe and have love for God. I may not be with all here nor do I expect for anyone to accompany me while I’m here. In Faith we will all be together again Amen.
Thank you so much President Nelson and sister Nelson for sharing this beautiful message with us! I was raised in a Muslim family and I’m proud to say that the best decision I ever made was to be baptized in the name of my Savior and Redeemer Jesus Christ in July 10th 2021. My aunt passed away in 2007 from kidney failure, she was a true Muslim and I had a dream about her being a missionary in the Spirit world. Amen ♥️♥️
Muslim or Mormon both faux false religion.
If you honestly feel this way about the LDS church, there is a way for you to overcome your doubts. Before making such critical comments about another church or faith, I would invite you to meet with the LDS missionaries and learn directly from them. Then maybe you might have more information to decide how you feel about the LDS church. May God bless you in your search for happiness.@@tuesdaycurtis163
And you know this HOW?@@tuesdaycurtis163
Wow, what a beautiful perspective on how things truly are on the other side, Thank you, I have truly felt the spirit of the Lord tonight from President Nelson's words and his example.
Such wonderful news from beyond.
Been watched this overtime to make sure I heard it right what an assurance and compelling to know that our departure love ones would be able to visit us and the confirmation that this is the true church of Jesus Christ and that missionary work and temple is indeed existed and continues in the spirit world thank you Pres. Nelson and to your great grandfather journal
What a beautiful message. Thank you.
I too have had a glimpse through the veil. That was the most humbling experience I have had.
Thank you President Nelson. That’s was enlightening and confirms a lot of uncertainties I had about family history.....❤️❤️❤️❤️
Very heart lifting .A witness from the other side of the veil What a great blessing. Greatful to our prophet .for His testimony on family
The LDS church is a charity and donating to it as such is the true intention of those who do. Whether they are showing good stewardship of those funds is for God to decide. No doubt atheists and degenerates are attempting to find novel ways to pilfer the funds for unreasonable purpose.
Janette Davis ask yourself
Maxwell I think only your lady will take a word from what you’ve saying hhhh get tired and go do some research in the Book of Mormon not on TH-cam 😂😂😂
Maxwell if you in financial situation I can help😂😂😂
We love you President Nelson, we love this experience. I had a NDE 25 years ago...I testify that there is life after death. I am so grateful you are our prophet. We love you!
I resonate with this so much because I had a visit from my little brother and my sister from the other side of the veil and the message of that visit was to tell me they have met. I sobbed that morning telling my parents about the visit. I missed them so much. Some questions I had about them being together/meeting are only answered now after 8 years.
I had the pleasure of meeting President Nelson in New York last October while visiting the family history center at the NYC Temple. I'm engaged in parapsychology and working on my PhD in Religion to bring the two together and wish I could have had a conversation with him about these matters. My ancestors have assisted me in my genealogy work, and a medium who I had never met pronounced my grandfather's full name - with his West Indian accent - and then said, "The family is very pleased with the work you are doing on the family history Very pleased, Very, very, very pleased." Thank you for sharing this, President Nelson.
I SOOOOO LOVE THIS PROPHET! I have loved alll of them !! He is a Prophet for our time for sure! He is an extraordinary Man of God! Thank Heavens for having Prophets and Apostles on the earth today! WE ARE SOOOOOO BLESSED ! No matter what trials, buffetings, adversities, afflictions and adversities we are experiencing now it IS for our own good and testing. But Glory be to GOD we have sooo much everlasting, bliss and joy we have awaiting for us for all Eternity! Let us all pray for our family members, " LET THERE BE NO EMPTY CHAIRS IN OUR HEAVENLY HOME" ! I must say, thank you President Nelson, and the Apostles and 70's, I love you all, Love, Lauri Kim Walker!
What prophecy has he made?
I love that President Nelson shared this with all of us. The Spirit World is real and our loved ones are ALIVE there and are working very diligently to prepare for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. One of the most precious experiences that I have had with my family who have passed into the Spirit World is one I had just a few years ago when my father passed away. It has been almost three years since his mortal life ended on May 16, 2020.
My father had served in the Army during World War II. He was in the Battle of the Bulge which was a horrific scene. He and a buddy were in a foxhole and were alarmed to see a German grenade land in front of them about 15 feet away. They knew it was going to explode very quickly, but there was no place to hide. At the very last second, another GI came running towards them across the field of battle. He was shot by enemy fire and his body landed upon the grenade which 2 seconds later exploded sending shrapnel and body parts over both my father and his buddy. My Dad carried shrapnel in his chin and shoulder for the rest of his life. As a result of the horrific scenes he had witnessed, he came to believe that there was no God and certainly not a loving God who would allow people do to such horrible things to each other.
I had not yet been born, nor had my younger sisters as our father was not married at this time. My Mother and Father were married a few years later and I was born in 1953. When I was 17 I found and joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The single best and most important decision of my entire life. My two younger sister each joined as well a few years after I did. For the rest of my father’s life, all of us tried on many occasions to talk to him about the Gospel and the wonderful things that we each experienced as members of the True Church. Almost all of his life for the rest of his life he would not allow us to share anything of the Gospel with him.
A month before he passed away, he called each of us individually on the phone. He told each of us that he wanted to say his goodbye before he passed away because he knew time was short and he was afraid he might not be able to do this if he were in a coma or something at the end. (And he was comatose for a week before he passed.) He told us how much he loved us and how much he had enjoyed being our Dad and how proud he was of all of us. I took this occasion to tell him about when he passed away what it would be like. I told him it was like walking through a door and on the other side ALL of his family-his mother and father, his brother and his wife, his cousins and aunts and uncles and friends-everyone he had known in this life would be there to greet him. It would be THE biggest and best family reunion he’d ever seen! He listened to me tell him this and then, for the VERY first time in his life, he said, “I hope what you’re saying is true. I’m willing to consider it.” I was SO happy!! He’d never said that before and I told him that as long as he was willing to think it might be possible, it WOULD be possible!
About a month later he was in a coma, and I went to be with my mother while he was passing. I again took several opportunities to talk to my Dad telling him to go to the light and go through the door and to not be afraid. Later, that week he passed away. Since this was during COVID, & we were going to wait to have a memorial service, I returned home. As I passed through my bedroom upon arriving home, I distinctly heard my father say, “ Leslie, you were right.” Everyone knows their father’s voice-especially since I’d heard his voice for 67 years!! I know he must have really wanted to tell me that he had experienced that family reunion and that he was ok and EVERYTHING that we had told him over the years about the Gospel was REAL. And it IS. IT’S ALL TRUE! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ And that is NOT my only experience. ❤️❤️❤️
My mother visited my sister after I did the temple work for her. She told her she was now free, and then later she appeared to my older sister as an angel as she was going through her trials. She then also visited my nephew in a dream to tell us she was fine and happy in paradise. This is why I know that Baptism for the Dead is real. I have also felt her spirit, and she is doing her work beyond the veil. Now I will tell you of a testimony of a spiritualist who is not of our faith. She entered another of my sister's home and did a spiritual ritual, much like Samuel 25. Guess who she saw, without ever seeing her picture or any other family member, my mother, my grandfather, my great grandfather, and my great grandmother and grandmother, all in one place, and all sealed together beyond the veil. She could describe them much as the witch in Samuel 25 did, and she said they were angels. So unbelievers will one day experience these things, but I have enough testimony to know that this gospel is true. Since then my sister is progressing in learning of the BIble, she was an unbeliever for many years.
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A few years ago my daughter asked me if I had heard this story before and it sounded familiar so I went to look for it in President Nelson’s autobiography and I believe that it’s in there. It’s been sometime since I read it but I found the story and I enjoyed very much reading it. Little did I know that a few weeks later I would be needing to recall this from my memory to comfort a dying sister that I had been assigned to visit teach a second time around. She was aged and was very fiable of body and spirit and was very afraid to die. And there was no question about it she was on her death bed. As I was leaving work I got a frantic call from her daughter asking me to please come that she could not calm her mother. I have no idea how to deal with this and I was by myself and so I did the best thing I could. I prayed all the way to her home. And still did not know what I could say to this sweet sister and as I walked down the hall to get to her room I hear a lot of crying and I find some of her children and grandchildren crying loudly. And the first thing that came out of my mind was. Mary what is going on? And she smiled right away and said my name and all of the sudden all went quite and more peaceful. I sat with and talked to and sung some hymns to her and she share with me that she was very afraid to die. And that’s when I shared President Nelson’s grandfather’s story and she calmed and smiled I told that she would soon be seeing her daughter and husband and parents and how wonderful of a reunion it was going to be. She went to sleep and never fell apart again after that. She lived 3 or 4 days beyond that. I know that hearing this story brought her peace. Muchas gracias Hermano Nelson.
I am grateful to live in a day where there is a prophet of God❤️❤️❤️
I challenge you to read your Bible and learn about the true and living God and the real Jesus Christ.
@@fayelewis5476 I also challenge you to pray to God about what I said and not relying your own understanding. Also Study about prophets and why God calls prophets since the beginning of time
@@mohammadnuryusop756 I have read the Book of Mormon and God has told me it is false. I do not pray to the LDS heavenly father who was once a man and came from another planet because there is no evidence that he exists.
Jesus Christ is my living Prophet, Priest and King. I need no other.
@@fayelewis5476 That's what the people always saying at the time of Jesus Christ ministry that they don't believe his words. But I respect you my friend and I hope you'll try to ponder what I challenge you❤️
@@fayelewis5476 I am sorry you read the Book of Mormon and did not feel the love and light of our Savior Jesus Christ or a witness of the truthfulness of the scriptures written in those pages. Perhaps it wasn't your time. I read it over and over and learn something new each time. I feel a closeness to the Savior more from reading the Book of Mormon than any other book. I know he guided all the Prophets that wrote upon the plates as to what to preserve and how to hand them down to the next generation of people. So the teachings can bring us miraculous feelings of the Holy Spirit, which brings peace, comfort, and joy! And another testament of the Savior Jesus Christ! I can assure you we do not worship prophets other than the Savior Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven. I think we are speaking of the same beings. We might have a little misunderstanding, as we do love the many Prophets throughout all time and we are especially grateful and full of love for our living prophet. God loves us all, as he did in days of old that he still ordains a living prophet for us. I'm sorry there are so many misunderstandings and it takes more than a comment or two to get why and what we say. I am glad you love the Savior. That's the most wonderful love and devotion to keep! God bless!
Thank you for sharing uour father’s experience! I was blessed to see my deceased paternal grandparents in the temple, too-the visit was short, but important. A tender mercy.
I miss my children so much. Please pray I can bring them home soon...
update?
All in good time! Good things take time! Booo yaaaah for all who's trying !!!
Family history stories are so interesting - your own family or someone else's - they have such a profound effect on us. I never tire of hearing them - they teach us about life. President Nelson has such an interesting family history. He is certainly the RIGHT prophet for this day and time. Thanks for sharing this.
veil is thin sometimes for some people for some reasons. really cool. it was thin ONE time for me when my previous Bishop showed up (he passed away from cancer), i didn't see him but i felt "his" spirit when i taught his daughter a lesson at the MTC. made me realize we all have spirits that can be felt but obviously don't sense it in our every day lives. i hope i can be true to the church. it's crazy true folks
Thank you. Your story brought tears. Good tears. My mom was the same way. She would have a couple of loved ones who had pass come to her. They wanted their work done for them. So either she would do it or have someone else. My Mom didn’t always have a up to date Temple Recommend because, either my father was laid off, or they were having a hard financial time. They were proud and private people. My mom however, loved the Lord with all her heart. 💛🙏😇
This is a lovely msg. I have listened to many NDE and l noticed not one of them were ever directed to any particular denomination. The abounding msg was love the light the immense power of changing because of the realm of pure love that they experienced they returned literally born again in the spirit of love and went on to share the spirit of Jesus or the spirit of loving others and serving others.
"Denomination?" Duane Crowther "Life Everlasting." And in this account, a specific question was asked.
This church has all the same elements that Christ laid down when here on earth. Peter was the next prophet. This church is God's. Ask Him yourself.
I have read what you read too and the only ones that seem to confirm LDS are LDS. Someone once mentioned maybe there are different parts to heaven and all the Mormons go to “Mormon” heaven
Thank you for sharing this sacred family journal entry brother and sister Nelson.
Thank you for sharing something so precious and true.
My Grandma passed away before I was born and when I was in hospital one of the nurses told my mum "Oh your relative came to visit your baby." Mum asked the nurse to describe the person and it matched the description of my deceased grandmother.
Thank you sincerely for sharing President Nelson, how scared for our hearts to hear.It is precious,powerful and heartfelt .✨💗🙏💗🕊 You are the true living Prophet on earth ,and grateful for you’re love and wisdom ,and the blessing of knowing that we have a loving Heavenly Father that cares and love his children on both sides of the vail. God bless ✨
Jordan's words at the end really hit me. I feel like my family members have always been present for me when I've needed them. That hit really hard.
This is so much information that I’ve always wanted. I think we’ve all basically assumed this and now we know.
Maxwell - You’re too late 😉! I already read it. I know it’s what the prophet Joseph taught us that it is.
Maxwell Still too late. I’m a believer.
Better late than never!!!
I saw my deceased husband when he died for a few days after until the day of the funeral. I saw him with his deceased first wife and parents as they sat together. I saw my lovely father in his temple clothes come in smiling to check all was alright, and a voice of someone behind me I was not allowed to see telling my husband that I would be alright and he was where he should be. On my knees once again, on the day of the funeral I saw my husband walking without a limp on a green like no other green I have seen before walking over slight mounds towards his future destiny.
We love and sustain you President Nelson. Almighty God speaks through and to you. I am blessed to have you to teach me.
What prophetic utterances would you point out to a non Mormon as evidence that God is speaking through President Nelson?
Just listen!!!
Awesome, this is a very true statement for those who never understand why we do baptism for our ancestors. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the true church on the face of this earth, I love it I know this to be true and I do a lot of work for my ancestors and I haven’t finish yet. This is real story to share. I love it and it’s good to know that they were more busier there than here.
You should never ever talk to any deceased. Demons imitate the dead for the purpose of misleading us.
Truth Be Bold so the devil visits us? But gods people can’t? You are giving more power to Satan than you are God. Why would god not visit the children that he loves and cares for? As far as I know, Satan does not have that much power.
@@kitiebardy6383 The Bible states that the dead know nothing and aside from a couple verses that seem to contradict that, you will find the Bible supports 'soul sleep' throughout is pages. I encourage anyone that encounters a supposed deceased person to tell that spirit to leave in the name of Jesus Christ.
@@truthbebold4009 he has enough to fool you and come as a "Angel" of light. He has his own minister's who's end shall be according to their works.
@@agfan1 Remember the works of Mormonism are:
1. Idolatry- They worship a god that was once a man and came from another planet.
2. Blasphemy- They deny Christ and say He is a created being, the brother of Lucifer.
3. Lying- They say that there is marriage in heaven and that they can become a god one day.
They also teach that those who deny polygamy are damned.
Heathen Saved Without Baptism
Book of Mormon
Moroni 8:22-23
22 For behold that all little children are alive in Christ, and also all they that are without the law. For the power of redemption cometh on all them that have no law; wherefore, he that is not condemned, or he that is under no condemnation, cannot repent; and unto such baptism availeth nothing-
23 But it is mockery before God, denying the mercies of Christ, and the power of his Holy Spirit, and putting trust in dead works.
2 Nephi 9:25-26
25 Wherefore, he has given a law; and where there is no law given there is no punishment; and where there is no punishment there is no condemnation; and where there is no condemnation the mercies of the Holy One of Israel have claim upon them, because of the atonement; for they are delivered by the power of him.
26 For the atonement satisfieth the demands of his justice upon all those who have not the law given to them, that they are delivered from that awful monster, death and hell, and the devil, and the lake of fire and brimstone, which is endless torment; and they are restored to that God who gave them breath, which is the Holy One of Israel.
Mosiah 15:24-27
24 And these are those who have part in the first resurrection; and these are they that have died before Christ came, in their ignorance, not having salvation declared unto them. And thus the Lord bringeth about the restoration of these; and they have a part in the first resurrection, or have eternal life, being redeemed by the Lord.
25 And little children also have eternal life.
26 But behold, and fear, and tremble before God, for ye ought to tremble; for the Lord redeemeth none such that rebel against him and die in their sins; yea, even all those that have perished in their sins ever since the world began, that have wilfully rebelled against God, that have known the commandments of God, and would not keep them; these are they that have no part in the first resurrection.
27 Therefore ought ye not to tremble? For salvation cometh to none such; for the Lord hath redeemed none such; yea, neither can the Lord redeem such; for he cannot deny himself; for he cannot deny justice when it has its claim.
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Death Seals Man's Fate
Book of Mormon
Mosiah 2:36-39
36 And now, I say unto you, my brethren, that after ye have known and have been taught all these things, if ye should transgress and go contrary to that which has been spoken, that ye do withdraw yourselves from the Spirit of the Lord, that it may have no place in you to guide you in wisdom's paths that ye may be blessed, prospered, and preserved-
37 I say unto you, that the man that doeth this, the same cometh out in open rebellion against God; therefore he listeth to obey the evil spirit, and becometh an enemy to all righteousness; therefore, the Lord has no place in him, for he dwelleth not in unholy temples.
38 Therefore if that man repenteth not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever.
39 And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment.
Alma 34:32-35
32 For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors.
33 And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed.
34 Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.
35 For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked.
I love President Nelson! What a sweet story~ thank you for sharing a precious family moment with everyone~ this is indeed why we try so hard to help our ancestors with their ordinances! I love this so much!
I'm glad to know the correct records are kept on the other side in case a mistake is made down here. Thanks for sharing this vision.
It is wonderful when the Prophet share such a sacred experience with us. It is sad when God's children trifle such an experience, more so especially when it is a matter they know nothing about and do not begin to wonder and search for themselves. There are certain things that are most absolute: One is that this is the Church of the living Son of God and the Heavens are open to it. How I may feel about this adds or subtracts nothing. Worlds without end. I wish all could come and see, there is nothing to be lost but everything to be gained. Please come and see.
Well said, Brother!
My dear President Nelson, Thank you for giving us that gift regarding your Grandfather. When I lived in Los Angeles, I to was having difficulty trying to get past my 4th generation, as I was adopted, I knew who my birth parents were, but chose to be sealed to my foster parents. I prayed and prayed, no one knew anything about the family. So one night I had a dream, and there stood a woman her hair tight in a bun, and she clasps her hands in front of her, and her dress was 1800's+. I said "Well who are you?" She looked at me with Stearness of face and said. "I am Sarah Buffington Hart." I responded with excitement and said back, "I have been looking all over for you." She still looked at me, and said back "My dear, if you would pay your tithe you would find me."? Then she was gone. Well be that as it was, embarrassed that my ancestor knew I was behind in my tithe, I made it a point to pay a full tithe. I caught up. So the next year almost time for Mothers Day, I being a Family History Consultant volunteered at the L.A. Temple Library and my son had finished with Boy Scouts, came to get me. I will just tell you, I was directed to the Computers, and admonished to put in Sarah Buffington, there were two. One was the sister of Peter Buffington Jr. son of Peter Buffington Sr. and Hannah Waite. When I pulled her records up there was about 8 generations, along with my grandfather he was my 4th, and there was about 8 generations on his side. The enormity of family history, was so profound, that I made a promise that I would never leave one stone unturned and never neglect my Tithe and Fast offering again. I have been a member of the Country Club Ward, Phoenix Az. I have been the Family History Consultant for nearly 13 years. I am still going strong. I love family history, and not long ago, the Library notified me and others as well of the people that are in their lineage. I was nearly fainted when I found out that through my Foster family, and my Natural Fathers line, I am related to all of the Presidents of the Church, of course I haven't found out about yours yet. The blessings of knowing that the Man I read about Joseph Smith is in my family tree, is a blessing to me. Thank you again, President Nelson, I enjoyed your dream and your talks, and know that You are the President of Jesus Christ Church, and a Prophet to us. A gift from Jesus Christ to us. Dianne Cash Sabido.
Thank you President Nelson for sharing this interesting story i learn a lot from hearing your great grand father ' s visit i wish my late father visit me one day and tell me what he is doing in the Spirit World God bless you Phrophet Nelson and your family 💖❤💛👱👩👧👵
my grandfather visited me once. And only once. So far. Hopefully, another visit is in the works :) And hopefully, a visit will be in store for you too. As a father myself, I could only imagine the yearning and burning that I would feel when it comes to wanting to visit my daughters.
Thank you President Nelson. I love the family video with the kid noises in the background. :)
I love hearing these stories. So intriguing.
My brother just sent me this and it gave me chills!!! Not long after my father passed away he came to me twice. The second time was a warning that my mother and sister were plotting to do me harm. I knew it was true but what harm? The harm came a couple of weeks later. How I miss him and he had to be one of the most faithful members of the Church that I have ever known. He served in the Bishopric for 15 years.
I know this is true, My Aunt Olidine always used to send me birthday greeting cards, and she has visited me on my Birthday since she passed. And, shortly after my Mother passed I was told by her not to worry to go to sleep. And My Grandfather in 2016 or 2017 who barely could play a accordian. seems to have composed a piece of music for me, and played it for me, it was to help me sleep. He passed in 1970.
Dennis Arndt the peace ☮️ sign is a upside down cross. Look into it and you’ll find it to be mocking the atonement
When a person dies, his soul is taken to heaven or hell, depending on whether he has placed his faith in Christ (Matthew 25:46). There is no reason to believe that a deceased person has any ability to leave heaven or hell in order to visit his living family members. Any such claim is a demonic deception (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). God declared such practices to be abhorrent to Him, and those who did practice such things in Israel were to be put to death (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-12). Satan would like nothing more than for people to dabble in the occult world of spiritism and necromancy. God’s commandments regarding these things are designed to protect us from the schemes of our enemy, the devil, who “prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8).
Faye Lewis
So what did Christ mean when he appeared to Mary Magdalene and said he had not ascended to to his father who is in heaven yet? Where did he go for 3 days?
@@intriguingmind9435 Not true. See www.britannica.com/story/where-did-the-peace-sign-come-from
@@intriguingmind9435 Really! 🥴 I have never seen a cross that is slanted and has a circle around it.
Wow
This is a new truth I have always wonder if my mom is always with me, Now I know why. they are busy, she is busy doing the work and the Lord will permit her to me or any other when he sees a need for a work to be done.
This really touched me bought tears to my eyes. Knowing the Holy Ghost is testifying to me. I know I did my Uncle's work back in 2003. I know he has been busy ever since that time.My Mom will have to wait until her work gets done. It is because of the Cvirus going on and Temples are closed right now.God is in control . Thy will be done not my will.
How wonderful this is to hear! My sweet mother who fears so often about genealogy being incorrect, will have great relief. Thank you
When a person dies, his soul is taken to heaven or hell, depending on whether he has placed his faith in Christ (Matthew 25:46). There is no reason to believe that a deceased person has any ability to leave heaven or hell in order to visit his living family members. Any such claim is a demonic deception (2 Corinthians 11:14-15).
God declared such practices to be abhorrent to Him, and those who did practice such things in Israel were to be put to death (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-12). Satan would like nothing more than for people to dabble in the occult world of spiritism and necromancy. God’s commandments regarding these things are designed to protect us from the schemes of our enemy, the devil, who “prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8).
@Katelyn Mumford Those beliefs are not in the Bible. Have you ever read the Bible?
It is not really, really tender and sweet to have demons contact you. The God that I worship calls that an abomination.
When you contact the dead or dead people contact you it is really a demon impersonating your dead relative. Dead people do not come back.
Do you know for sure if you died today where you would spend eternity?
@@fayelewis5476 why are trolling this? You have made derogatory comments throughout~ why are you so afraid of truth? What do you have to gain by all of your naysaying? Please reconsider your unnecessary attacks and try to find some positive peace.
@@CarolsCurrentObsession God offers you everlasting life as a free gift if you are interested.
I am not afraid of truth. If Mormonism were true I would gladly follow it.
Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Me.
Eternity is a long time to be wrong.
Thank you THANK YOU for this! My Mom recently died, and sometimes I feel her spirit nearby, other times that she is busy. Now I know it’s true, we do not reach omniscience in death.
What an incredible and precious treasure - a visit from the other side! ❤️😎
Kevin Chatwin My Dear brothers and sisters
I used to believe everyone of these teachings out of the Book of Mormon and LDS Church I used to believe all of it was true until a number of years ago I was introduced to the truth about the church and it’s hidden history, such as Joseph Smith’s actual criminal actions. His underage polygamy,
Brigham Young’s revelations that Adam is our God
that Jesus is not the the way to Heaven
These are false teachings and I admonish you to please pray and research and find the truth for yourself,
Your local leaders will tell you to not do the research, ask yourself Why?
If....the church is True...then they should not care if you do, it is how they control you and the False Narrative...
research ::::
Www.CESLETTER.org
Or
Go to
Www.JesusIsThePlan.com
Love You
Jesus Christ only is True Freedom John 14:6
@@jesusistheplanthereisnopla5547 Why are you here? When you realize the answer to that question you will also realize that you are not welcome here, with us....
Drizzt I believe it’s the same person using a bunch of fake accounts. Even answering their own comments back and forth having conversations with themselves. This person is very bitter and angry comes here to insult, attack and persecute a 94 yr old man. And this video is a year old!
Drizzt thank you for getting back I appreciate it I am not trying to offend anybody I am simply trying to share with you my personal experience not to hurt anyone’s feelings but I do know that once I found a true relationship with Jesus Christ and repented of my sins he for gave me I did not have to go to the bishop my relationship with him is direct he died on The cross for you and me to give us an opportunity to live with him again in heaven John 14:6 I just care about you guys and I wish that somebody had informed me years ago it would have blessed my life a great deal seek Jesus and you’ll see the truth
patricia bernasconi I am just trying to share my personal experience with you to help you possibly desire to research for yourself the true history about the church and once you humble yourself and look into the true history of the church by looking at such information as www.cesletter.org You will begin to question the same way I began to question but back when I started seeing the truth it really did hurt my feelings a great deal while I lived in Salt Lake have a good night seek Jesus love you
Thank you dear president nelson for sharing this gospel truth. My wife passed away due to breast cancer and we have 3 kids left with me. I dream of her and she said to me that she's always with us and the kids. I'm thankful that families are forever.
Very useful testimony
Thank you for the video it was very informative and very uplifting. I appreciate you sharing that.
Thank you, President aka Prophet Nelson I finally don't feel as alone, anymore. I love you and your family especially your great grandfather Andrew Clarence Nelson. Now, I am so thankful for his comforting words from the other side of the veil. It's good to always have confirmation about our callings, so that we can be as confident as Jesus was about following him....N his ways....in Jesus Name, Amen and Amen to that....
The words that the Prophet speaks are so inspiring and wonderful in regards to the work being done for our ancestors.
I was so good to hear this, especially in this increasingly-liberal Christian world. "And in no other way can they obtain salvation in the kingdom of God" pretty much puts the lie to the common belief among Christian denominations that all you have to do is proclaim a personal belief in Jesus Christ and you will be saved--a commonly-believed deception of Lucifer. Certainly everyone will be saved from death regardless of their belief--Christian or non-Christian who have ever lived on this earth--but they forget (or ignore) that there are specific requirements that must be met before salvation can be obtained in the kingdom of God.
Thank You President Nelson for sharing this.
Yes
3DMOVIES4YOU My Dear brothers and sisters
I used to believe everyone of these teachings out of the Book of Mormon and LDS Church I used to believe all of it was true until a number of years ago I was introduced to the truth about the church and it’s hidden history, such as Joseph Smith’s actual criminal actions. His underage polygamy,
Brigham Young’s revelations that Adam is our God
that Jesus is not the the way to Heaven
These are false teachings and I admonish you to please pray and research and find the truth for yourself,
Your local leaders will tell you to not do the research, ask yourself Why?
If....the church is True...then they should not care if you do, it is how they control you and the False Narrative...
research ::::
Www.CESLETTER.org
Or
Go to
Www.JesusIsThePlan.com
Love You
Jesus Christ only is True Freedom John 14:6
I believe. I believe in angels and I believe in prophets.
I do not.
I believe too. In fact, I know. I know there are angels, and I'm so grateful for living prophets and apostles. 😊
What evidence do you have to justify these beliefs? Or do you just accept claims that contradict logic, reason, and science without sufficient evidence?
@@richardhorn5554 (1) Every prophet from Adam to Moses to Jesus to Joseph Smith to President Nelson has seen angels. These experiences are recorded in The Holy Bible, The Book or Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price.
(2) To validate your questions, there is definitely an aspect of trusting acceptance without sufficient evidence-this is called faith. There is still plenty of room for faith in life. However, to speak to logic, reason, and science, there is no better example than Russel M Nelson. He is an M.D./Ph.D Who graduated early at the top of his class from medical school. He pioneered open heart surgery and developed the heart-lung machine that is still used today. This shows clearly that there is plenty of room for faith and science in one mind.
There is more evidence to support these claims than there isn't! Truth comes with the spirit of truth. One truth for all people. To bring us all together. This is just the beginning of the restoration. Many other things need n will happen!!!. Believe that!!! A real restoration of authority n truth was needed. Many might not like that fact but it remains true n filling the earth. Open your ears, minds, and hearts so that Lucifer doesn't cloud your mind. He will fill it with all sorts of non cense n confusion. But God will lead you straight!!! Read the standard works, you will see for yourself. Heaven will respond to you!!!!!!!
Thanks! He’s A very Intelligent lovable caring profit of the Lord!
Prophet. Profit is for business & investment.
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He does the profit part VERY well knowing that there r 9 different versions of the first vision.
@@jaykamal1978 you know that thing you did in school? Yeah, that silly thing. I know, I know you wanted to keep it to yourself. But I talked to nine of your old friends, and they all told me about that thing. Each story was a little different, but it was all the same thing. Silly you!
@@vendingdudes
That makes me silly to question 9 different versions of the first vision?
Why compare apples to oranges?
U said 9 different people may say 9 different things, ok maybe, but this is that same ONE person with 9 different versions of the story, except it gets better each time its told.
He was perfecting a totally made up story, thus so many different versions.
It's a valid question and u should seriously do some research on it before calling me silly.
One version he only saw heavenly father, another version he only seen Jesus christ, and so forth, till he decided that he saw that both at the same time.
Now after knowing that, anyone with just a bit of common sense can tell its all made up or else there wasn't gonna be 9 version of the so called TRUTH.
@@jaykamal1978 same thing either way. I've told more than 9 people about my wedding day, or first day out of trucking school, or my big car wreck of 2016. I'm sure some major or minor details were slightly different in each telling. Whoopdedoo.
This should have 100,000 views by now. Thanks for posting!
LOVED THIS. THANK YOU
Thank you!❤️
I'm happy to heaR the records are correct in Heaven, my sister and I thought we might have corrections to make..
Thank you
Много благодаря за споделената история. Благодарна съм, че зная, че семействата могат да бъдат заедно един ден и че можах да се погрижа за кръщението на моите близки! Аз също имам свои свидетелства, че нашите починали близки знаят за нас и понякога идват, за да ни предупредят за опасност!
Meu coração se alegra ao perceber e sentir que temos um profeta vivo e verdadeiro entre nós. eu sei que Jesus Cristo vive e que nos ama.
Hey it's nice to meet you and thanks you so much for accepting my friend request may God blessed you and watch over you always
My brother visited after he died.
Wonderful history story 🙏❤️😇👍
Beautiful ❤🥺
My great grandchild visited me and said "Do it. Do it right. Do it right now."
He said his family reads this comment as scripture in the future.
Praise the lord Joseph Smith!
Very cool !!!
4:26 "Some times 2 people by the very same name can live in the very same town around the very same time period..." Yup! She's from Raymond!
My stepdad, whom I loved dearly, said my husband, who passed away only 5 months prior, came to stay with him the night before my stepdad passed away. My husband was a big tall man, 6'4" and 300 pounds. He told my dad that he would stay with my dad until others come to get him. My husband told my dad one of his jobs was to be a protector and a helper do that people are not alone and afraid. It brought me so much comfort knowing that my husband is protecting our loved ones just like he did here on earth.
Prophet NELSON is speaking the truths. I forever eternally, thank HEAVENLY FATHER & BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, back on Earth.
I swallowed the top to a ketchup bottle (don't ask) and began to choke until I was unconscious. After a length of time I cannot determine, I found my spirit detached from my corporal body and in the presence of my decreased grandmother. "You did not come to my funeral, Grandson", she said accusingly. I replied, "It's not like you're going to come to mine???" Things went downhill from there. Suffice to say I'm not dead anymore. :(
Dude you made me nearly choke.
I loved this so much
Love this
Absolutely Correct beautiful
Cool! But the computer voice was REALLY annoying.
What a wonderful example as how we must endure to the end. How we love Him as a modern day profit.
Respectfully, as a Christian who is reading the BOM (with Come Follow Me) I find this doctrine striking. Isnt speaking the dead utterly forbidden by Jehvoah several times in the Old Testament? The most notorious example being Saul and the Witch of Endor speaking to Samuel, for which God was deeply angered. When did God reverse course on this topic?
Why are you reading the Book of Mormon?
I am willing to investigate the claims of the LDS church and compare them to the Bible to whether the claims to restore the fulness of the gospel are plausible or not. It is true much New Testament doctrine alluded to in the Bible is recalled to people who obviously had more information. This does include mysterious references to predestination, baptism for the dead, spirits in the spirit world, and so forth. Modern Christian's freely confess to uncertainty about them and in the same breath claim to be authentic keepers of apostolic truth, an undeniably tenuous claim in light of their confessions. The more of it read the more I feel I appreciate my Holy Bible. This topic (of speaking to the departed) borders on outright witchcraft by the Bible definition and frankly warrants explanation by LDS if its teaching comport with the Bible.
@@michaelmurphy6586 OK, fair enough. Personally I think using the Bible to validate or invalidate the BofM is roughly the same as using Stalin's "Fundamentals of Leninism" to critique "Mein Kampf." Anyway, I too have read the BofM, most of it anyway, with all the beholds, and It came to passes ad nauseum. I read it mostly out of curiosity and also so I can say "yes I have read it," to Mormon apologists. I personally take a more academic or scientific view in refuting the b of m. There is virtually no academician anywhere ( not on BYU's payroll anyway) in the fields of DNA science, history, Egyptology, anthropology, archeology, or linguistics who would say there is the remotest chance the events in the Book of Mormon could have happened. It is almost certainly fiction. The Book of Abraham in the PofGP, and the FairMormon and the Chruch's defense of it, I reserve for a comedic rather than theological issue. There is a whole lot more to work with from this approach.
God has not reversed course thankfully.
Joseph Smith himself spoke with the dead, Peter, James and John and John the Baptist.
Joseph Smith was anointed by demons impersonating these dead men.
President Nelson is showing his true colors.
Isaiah 8:19
When they say to you, “Consult the mediums and the spiritists who whisper and mutter,” should not a people consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living?
Specifically, where does it say in the O.T. about not speaking with the dead? My grandfather visited me once in a dream. He didn't speak. But he didn't have to. I later found out the somebody else, in a temple out-of-state, was performing ordinances on his behalf, during the same fall that I had that dream.
I'm sad he didn't say or ask anything about Our Savior ! But I LOVE THE REST if it!
Never easy explaining spiritual matters to people who will not search for truth for the avoidance of doubt what President Nelson shared was a true account I know it to be true
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
- Article of Faith #3
Book of Mormon For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.
- 2 Nephi 25:23
"One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
The Bible
Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [h]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
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Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
I John 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
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Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).
The Bible
Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
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There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
The Bible
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."
- John 14:6
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"This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
The Bible
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
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There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mormon Doctrine, p.670).
The Bible
And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name (Jesus) under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.
- Acts 4:12
Those who search for truth, find.
Never easy explaining the difference between faith and truth to someone who prays, gets a warm fuzzy feeling, and calls it knowledge.
In 2020 some months after my dad passed away I woke up in the morning laying in my bed I opened my eyes I saw the window, turning my body I saw the ceiling and when I turn to the wall side an image opened in front of me like a movie screen on the wall. I saw my father like he was in his 50's, and he passed away with 94. He was sitting on a wooden bench in my vision and behind him a perfect wooden panel, his shirt was caramel color mixed with brown triangle cones. A good shirt quality very clean and no any little part dented. His skin color was dark brown and without open his mouth he told me he was surprised with that color on his skin and that he doesn't feel comfortable because his skin color suppose to be white like it was when he was in the earth. He told me he feel peace there but he is not happy with that color and he said I could do something to help him to fix that. I said yes dad, I know what to do. Then that image disappeared. I was more then impressed with that episode. I knew I needed to send the covenants in temple to him and so I did, even it was challenging cause the temples were close in 2020.
Come and listen to a prophets voice. I would invite the entire world to watch and learn. I truly "Thank Thee Oh God for the Prophet"...Who does guide us in these the ladder days.
"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds. " Hebrews 1:1-2
Praise God that we don't need prophets anymore as God has sent us his perfect Son. We certainly don't need prophets that can't even get their stories straight on whether Adam is God, blacks are the cursed race, the Book of Abraham is a translation or an inspired musing, etc.
@@tkc3742 I'm sorry your blinded by your unbelief. It is your right to be that way. We believe the bible also...as far as it has been translated correctly. Do you know? How many times has it been changed? New version easy to read?... I will not argue my faith but I will defend it. It is your right to believe what you will as it is mine to do the same. Peace to you.
@@johnlong8655 Christians believe the Bible has to be translated correctly too, incorrect translations are not the word of God. But God is faithful, and has provided over 5K manuscripts in the original Greek and over 25K total early New Testament manuscripts in Aramaic, Coptic, Syriac, Latin, etc that confirm that the Bible is a faithful representation of what he inspired. Further, these manuscripts demonstrate 99% reliability to the other manuscripts, with the vast majority of disagreements being minor grammatical variations, so that even atheistic scholars in textual criticism hold that the Bible that we have today represents what was originally penned to paper.
Much of the hang-up some have about the "different translations" are based on ignorance of the translation process. For example, in Spanish one says "Se me cayo," which can be translated "I dropped it, " or "It, from me, dropped." The first translation would be an easy-to-read, more natural sounding English translation, the latter a clunky, but more accurate word-for-word translation. The different Bible translations like the ESV and NIV utilize these different approaches, but both are faithful translations, even though the intent of translation was slightly different.
If the LDS church is going to hold that the Bible has been mistranslated, they have the burden of proof to show why this is so. As you said you are willing to defend your belief, can you explain how and when the Bible was mistranslated?
@@tkc3742 " Cast not pearls before swine" I will defend my faith but not at the risk of offending the holy sprit. You might be someone who once was a member and left the church, what ever, I will pray for you. If you spent as much time trying to improve the world through good works and love we might not be having this conversation. I believe President Nelson is a Prophet of God I believe that Joseph Smith saw God the father and his son Jesus the Christ and restored the one and only true church back to the earth. The church is true and perfect. People make mistakes, however thank God for grace and thank God for sending his only begotten son to provide a way back into the presence of our Heavenly Father. How you believe is on you, free agency and all... God bless you and Yours.
@@johnlong8655 It saddens me that you will not defend your position as you stated you would. I have given an argument refuting your position that the Bible was mistranslated and you refuse to defend your assertion, but instead resort to ad hominem attacks, by claiming that defending your position would be akin to "casting pearls before swine." Ouch. Is that how you approach all missionary efforts when the prospective convert doesn't immediately agree with your position?
If I am misguided, shouldn't you be willing to walk along side me and show me where I am in error? In the book of Romans, the apostle Paul asks "how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" You believe I am misguided, shouldn't you therefore follow the Biblical injunction to be a preacher to me? The "pearls before swine" does not apply as I am clearly articulating a well thought out, researched position with the goal of finding truth, not just some screaming internet troll with his ears closed. I have asked for your position, please show me enough love to respond, my eternal soul is at stake.
BLESSED IS the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly , nor standeth in the way of sinner, nor sitteth inthe seat of the scornful.
The story make me happy because I know what I am going to in this world is very help me I already the church of Jesus Christ is very true 😂😁😂😂
All I have is to know the spirits on the other side are helping me pull along , I know they are busy, but my life is hard. I have had Miracle after mericle, I know God lives, and Jesus is my savior. I know your are a Prophet of God. When people tell me all the uglynes in the world I say, I will turn to the prophet. I had a incounter with my grand other came to me, I can not denie it. I would lose my life, I know it happened, I went on to do everything g I could to raise my 4 kings! To be the best mother I could be. I. Love you. Times are so tough, pain is so real in my life. I pray for help from the other side. My journey is to hard t[ do all.
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