They should’ve just made a cat version of the actual Eva 13 boss and make it a legend rare. It would’ve been so much cooler especially when SF and Bikku has their own legend rares.
Maybe you're right, and also they should give him Massive Damage (or in the LR case, Insane Damage) instead of Strong, so he can inflict even more damage against Akus.
Then what it's TF gonna be? Legend Rares hardly get TF as of now. We already have something to be anticipate for it's TF so that's cool. A same Legend Rare across two different collab banner is interesting tho. Maybe Pen Pen for Legend Rare instead 🐧
@@lucg4005 tbh Akuma's fire ball always been a 3 multi-hit attack on fight games but all of them jailed means if you hit by one the rest of the attacks gonna hit as well. Same as blocking the attacks, block one the rest is blocked. The thing is, there's no such concept on Battle Cats. So damage potential wise it's a shame but pretty cool detail. Still great for obliterate tank enemies tho
@@iker9095 In cases like THE FOLIVOREAN, I think it’s moreso a design to make tanks get punished more than units with high KB count. Sloth variants usually have a hard time dealing with tanks so THE FOLIVOREAN being more effective against them is perfectly fine. They could accomplish the same thing by just making THE FOLIVOREAN do its total 108k damage in a single hit but that would be a bit ridiculous.
PONOS sure do have no problem to not only spoil the true nature of the anime but also spoils what happened to the characters next via obtaining their true form or pretty much the pattern of the reskin of the unit themselves.
@@SilumanTomcatRebornI guess that's reasonable, but damn is it confusing for someone who never seen anything of this franchise outside of memes and elevators.
On further thought I actually like the mini-surge and multi-hit it's just not strong or reliable enough. What if instead it had a 5 multi hit with level 2 mini-surge; then when Eva13 attacks shields all the hits land and can proc the mini-surge. If its a level two mini-surge it can hit enemies that the multi hit knocked back. The unit would take advantage of the shield to dish out more damage. It would be weaker against non shield aku but really strong against shields without needing shield breaker. Really cool idea for a shield buster type that doesn't rely on the shield breaker ability.
WHYWHYWHY, does Ponos keep releasing units with poorly spaced multi hits? Like, why? Properly spaced multi hits are useful and usually don’t hurt the units performance, but units like Akuma just lose so much dps because for some reason he has multi hit (I am still so annoyed to this day that akuma’s attack has multi hit, but true form ryu, WHO HAS THE EXACT SAME ATTACK, doesn’t have multi hit).
Longinius spear: In the anime has the ability to pierce et shields by piercing the shield TBC: Eva 13 smack with a spear and it makes it so that the spear doesn't pierce anything effectively nerfing itself and makes itself look stupid.
His 460 standing range also gives him a chance to br one of the few options against the Omens, since having surge immune and standing range abovr 430 is not really that common, so i guess is a good use for him
Minisurge for me only makes sense of units with super fast attack rates. By super fast I mean around 1 sec tba. That way they get their own role that differentiates them from surge, being much weaker but way more frequent so it can atleast consistently deal with peons. A init like this ahudve honestly just gotten surge. That way his damage would atleast be decent
Why did they do this to this unit he was perfectly fine and then they Nerf him with multi hit and inconsistent mini surge I thought the trade off of mini surge what's the lower damage for a guaranteed chance and a higher level surge
True Form idea : + 100% lv 1 Mini Surge + 100% Shield Breaker + Curse Immune And that should be enough. Catfruit Requirement : 1 Relic Catfruit, 1 Aku catfruit, and 1 Epic Catfruit Seed Update : He might also need at least 20% stats buff and perhaps more range as well at this point.
Good uber that was ruined by stupid multi-hit. It would be better if Ponos make him attack like Luza with first hit cover from 0-470 and second hit cover from 250-700, that would make him be able to damage both the frontliners like Aku Gory and backiners like Aku Face, thus make him more unique as an attacker compare to Diabolasa or Amakusa.
I’m assuming the multihit was intended for the eva to deal damage to the aku enemy after its shield is broken, to prevent a weaker cat unit from knocking it back and wasting potential damage.
First i though you review Eva01 tf. Man two of them look so identical. Second everytime you mention about dmg to Aku Amakusa aways come at first. But why community seems didnt give Amakusa more credits? As someone who have both i want share my experience using both of them. I using Aku fruit stage as example & only use Lilin & Amakusa as single attacker + meatshield. Using Lilin will clear that stage faster than Amakusa. But sometimes Lilin will also die fast from to many death surge. So i force to survive until Lilin finish her recharge. On the other hand Amakusa clear that stage slow than Lilin but more stable. Amakusa is immune to surge so he can sit down relax & torture thoose Aku enemy to their death. Yeah i also agree Lilin is the best akuber so far. But that doesnt mean Amakusa is left faar behind her.
@@SilumanTomcatReborn Yeah. Amakusa tf is really good. But i found sometimes community didnt recognize him as good Akuber. Maybe because Amakusa tf only cut his atk pause. Maybe he is little underrated.
@@SilumanTomcatReborn I just say maybe. I also see him as best Akuber. I just curious why he didnt popular like Lilin. But siluman if Amakusa get shield piercing even at 50% did that make Amakusa to op? Or is like why Lilin didnt get surge immune/surge resist to make her didnt to op & make other unit still relevant?
@@haritsaldiyafi Yeah, that's the idea. Anti-Aku ubers tend to be specialized on one-two aspects while leaving certain area as weakness/limitation. It's good tbh.
They should’ve just made a cat version of the actual Eva 13 boss and make it a legend rare. It would’ve been so much cooler especially when SF and Bikku has their own legend rares.
Maybe you're right, and also they should give him Massive Damage (or in the LR case, Insane Damage) instead of Strong, so he can inflict even more damage against Akus.
I still wonder how bikku has a legend rare, but bigger collabs like madoka, fate or evangelion doesn't have one. This was such a wasted potential
Kinda disagree with making it a Legend rare. Should've just make it a regular uber though that's my opinion.
Then what it's TF gonna be? Legend Rares hardly get TF as of now. We already have something to be anticipate for it's TF so that's cool. A same Legend Rare across two different collab banner is interesting tho. Maybe Pen Pen for Legend Rare instead 🐧
@@omabang5002 we only have one legend rare true form and this one is an event one, so the most likely scenario is it not having one at all
There should be a batch of ubers called “ubers that were given multi hit when their attack animation makes no sense for it to have multi hit”
To me the most cursed is Akuma. He and oni have the exact same fireball attack, YET AKUMA HAS MULTI HIT AND ONI DOESN’T! Why, just why?
@@lucg4005 akuma's fireball sorta splits into 3 attacks in the animation
Not an uber, but aku sloth has this too
@@lucg4005 tbh Akuma's fire ball always been a 3 multi-hit attack on fight games but all of them jailed means if you hit by one the rest of the attacks gonna hit as well. Same as blocking the attacks, block one the rest is blocked. The thing is, there's no such concept on Battle Cats. So damage potential wise it's a shame but pretty cool detail. Still great for obliterate tank enemies tho
@@iker9095 In cases like THE FOLIVOREAN, I think it’s moreso a design to make tanks get punished more than units with high KB count. Sloth variants usually have a hard time dealing with tanks so THE FOLIVOREAN being more effective against them is perfectly fine. They could accomplish the same thing by just making THE FOLIVOREAN do its total 108k damage in a single hit but that would be a bit ridiculous.
Bro is the embodiment of the boss vs the boss as a playable character
At least we already have a TF idea.
Congrats, you watched the video.
Battle cats is the epitome of that trope tbh lol
Clearly you've never heard of crazed cat
on second thought filibuster probably is way more acurate
Man, why does PONOS keep giving these units random multi-hit attacks. It doesn't even make sense in their attack animations.
PONOS sure do have no problem to not only spoil the true nature of the anime but also spoils what happened to the characters next via obtaining their true form or pretty much the pattern of the reskin of the unit themselves.
You have no idea what you're talking about just watch the anime and movies please
The entire madoka collab:
You mean Asuka turned into Kasli in the movies?
@@astablemultivibbrator8538 Yeah man, and Rei turned into Mitama. Haven't you seen Eva? Smh
Wow oh,I didn’t aware Diabolosa has so much dmg against his traits, I treated him as combo slave for too long
His TF redeem him.
I thought this was the true form at first, why did they make two similar units that are very similar in looks, function, and abilities?
because they also look similar in the movie
eva13 is supposed to be upgraded version of eva01
@@SilumanTomcatRebornI guess that's reasonable, but damn is it confusing for someone who never seen anything of this franchise outside of memes and elevators.
@@kalibhi1770 then you should, evangelion anime is like no other (just pirate it if you don't know where to watch)
@@CM-dx6xu Rebuild on the other hand...
Eva-13 having multi-hit was an entire damn plot twist
On further thought I actually like the mini-surge and multi-hit it's just not strong or reliable enough. What if instead it had a 5 multi hit with level 2 mini-surge; then when Eva13 attacks shields all the hits land and can proc the mini-surge. If its a level two mini-surge it can hit enemies that the multi hit knocked back. The unit would take advantage of the shield to dish out more damage. It would be weaker against non shield aku but really strong against shields without needing shield breaker.
Really cool idea for a shield buster type that doesn't rely on the shield breaker ability.
I guess it’s for balance, but it’s really odd the spear doesn’t have shield pierce, given its ability in the anime.
Now that you mention it, that really is weird
That’s actually facts
Maybe that's why he's swinging it instead of thrusting it
WHYWHYWHY, does Ponos keep releasing units with poorly spaced multi hits? Like, why? Properly spaced multi hits are useful and usually don’t hurt the units performance, but units like Akuma just lose so much dps because for some reason he has multi hit (I am still so annoyed to this day that akuma’s attack has multi hit, but true form ryu, WHO HAS THE EXACT SAME ATTACK, doesn’t have multi hit).
Apparently its a reference to how akuma has a three hit attack in street fighter, but idk
Really is On Brand that the Second Strike banner gets another Mid AF unit, while the First Strike one gets a watered down DKasli
Longinius spear: In the anime has the ability to pierce et shields by piercing the shield
TBC: Eva 13 smack with a spear and it makes it so that the spear doesn't pierce anything effectively nerfing itself and makes itself look stupid.
At least they should give him Massive Damage instead of Strong.
His 460 standing range also gives him a chance to br one of the few options against the Omens, since having surge immune and standing range abovr 430 is not really that common, so i guess is a good use for him
alright but who uses a spear like that
You can never go wrong with touhou music
Minisurge for me only makes sense of units with super fast attack rates. By super fast I mean around 1 sec tba. That way they get their own role that differentiates them from surge, being much weaker but way more frequent so it can atleast consistently deal with peons. A init like this ahudve honestly just gotten surge. That way his damage would atleast be decent
Noted. Thank you for this great informative video.
Final Boss becomes pathetic when they join your team
_Filibuster slowly left the chat_
Props for using mima theme
PC98 Touhou Music Arrange (one of the most popular one tho)
I'm crying rn
you want me to do it again?
@@SilumanTomcatReborn ofc, PC98 is based
remember that more attacks also means more minisurge, and maybe even 2 minisurges at once
it also means weaker mini surges. so there isn't really a net gain compared to just having one hit
@@gotekeeper9519 oh yeah
First! lets goooooo, good showcase btw
grrr no me first 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬😡
It's not a competition. It doesn't matter who gets the first comment.
@@Xpninjadan i thought the emojis made it clear i wasnt serious lol
@@ThisNerdStupid I knew you were kidding. I was talking to theC4T 795. I should have specified lol
Why did they do this to this unit he was perfectly fine and then they Nerf him with multi hit and inconsistent mini surge I thought the trade off of mini surge what's the lower damage for a guaranteed chance and a higher level surge
True Form idea :
+ 100% lv 1 Mini Surge
+ 100% Shield Breaker
+ Curse Immune
And that should be enough.
Catfruit Requirement : 1 Relic Catfruit, 1 Aku catfruit, and 1 Epic Catfruit Seed
Update :
He might also need at least 20% stats buff and perhaps more range as well at this point.
and I thought SPOON was bad about giving units multi hit for no reason before...
have a good day
Good uber that was ruined by stupid multi-hit. It would be better if Ponos make him attack like Luza with first hit cover from 0-470 and second hit cover from 250-700, that would make him be able to damage both the frontliners like Aku Gory and backiners like Aku Face, thus make him more unique as an attacker compare to Diabolasa or Amakusa.
Why did they give him multi-hit? Not only does it make him worse, it also makes no sense with his attack animation.
I’m assuming the multihit was intended for the eva to deal damage to the aku enemy after its shield is broken, to prevent a weaker cat unit from knocking it back and wasting potential damage.
That's what he does tho, helping Aku enemies regain their shield with his weak damage and minisurge
I really hope the TF saves this unit because the design is really cool. Also, when will we get Awakened Eva-13 as a legend rare already???
Anyone else thought this was a True Form for Eva01?
Porque le dieron multi hit????
Ponos momento
Is there any chance that on the last week of the colab we will get surprise tf of eva 01 and eva 13
Shinji moment
prank em shinji
Since when was a mini surge a thing!?
since dark phonoa
why doesn't he stab
He doesn't want to let enemy know his next move
Do eva are available for usa version?
Any update on whether or not Evangeline is coming to EN?
It's certainly coming to EN. The more appropriate question is when.
How to get that unit13
is it actually going to come again? (the event)
Yep. It's ongoing in JP version
First i though you review Eva01 tf. Man two of them look so identical.
Second everytime you mention about dmg to Aku Amakusa aways come at first. But why community seems didnt give Amakusa more credits? As someone who have both i want share my experience using both of them. I using Aku fruit stage as example & only use Lilin & Amakusa as single attacker + meatshield. Using Lilin will clear that stage faster than Amakusa. But sometimes Lilin will also die fast from to many death surge. So i force to survive until Lilin finish her recharge. On the other hand Amakusa clear that stage slow than Lilin but more stable. Amakusa is immune to surge so he can sit down relax & torture thoose Aku enemy to their death. Yeah i also agree Lilin is the best akuber so far. But that doesnt mean Amakusa is left faar behind her.
I'm pretty sure Amakusa TF is widely accepted as very powerful anti-Aku nuker. It's just that without his TF, he kinda falls behind.
@@SilumanTomcatReborn Yeah. Amakusa tf is really good. But i found sometimes community didnt recognize him as good Akuber. Maybe because Amakusa tf only cut his atk pause. Maybe he is little underrated.
@@haritsaldiyafi what? Long TBA is what hinders him most on pre-TF. His TF is now a machine gun. Shit is busted af.
@@SilumanTomcatReborn I just say maybe. I also see him as best Akuber. I just curious why he didnt popular like Lilin. But siluman if Amakusa get shield piercing even at 50% did that make Amakusa to op? Or is like why Lilin didnt get surge immune/surge resist to make her didnt to op & make other unit still relevant?
@@haritsaldiyafi Yeah, that's the idea. Anti-Aku ubers tend to be specialized on one-two aspects while leaving certain area as weakness/limitation. It's good tbh.
Easy boy 68
Yosh!