Thanks for the updates. As I suspected, Kia UK customer service might only be reading the sales datasheets and not necessarily knowing the full in and outs on a technical front with regards to V2H/G. Really hoping all the new EV3/EV6 FL & EV9 get it in the UK 🤞🏻
I actually tweeted that MyEnergi story at Kia UK on Thursday saying it’s a pity no V2G support in UK. The following day Kia puts out that EV3 V2G video. Then today i read a story about California mandating V2G on all new EVs. It’s time has really come i feel.
@@evodessey this is great news. Let's hope the chargers, firmware, tariffs and electric network infrastructure all comes together soon. I doubt worldwide models will have different electronics on board I suspect it will be a firmware or sales based decision on which models to support. It wouldn't surprise me if the original EV6 is capable too.
I sat in a refresh EV6 which I'm pretty sure was a GT-Line or GT-Line S and it had a dashcam fitted, the salesman told me that the built-in dashcam is not available in the UK spec, so it seems not all of the advertised features will be available in the UK .
Hyundai talked about wireless charging many years ago with the GV60. It's supposed to be a standard from WiTricity, but I don't know of any market where it's being implemented. At the moment, this statement makes me think of the automatic robotic chargers that were hyped at the time of the launch of the Ioniq 6, which also did not materialize on a large scale.
If you tap the miles and time to destination it displays the estimated soc at destination the previous s/w update had that. It doesn’t prompt for reroute and goes back to the map after a few seconds. The ev6 its quite small and a grey low contrast which to me seems really stupid as it only shows 2 small figures on the 12 inch screen. The Niro ev its whiter and larger on the 10 inch screen.
Agree, the previous update had this. What I was hoping for is better estimation of SOC on arrival in the latest update. It's so far off that I use ABRP instead to plan my charging stops.
I've seen claims that the hackers' custom app allowed them to peek at the cameras. If that's that case then does it mean KIA owners using that app could have access to the features that KIA decides are not available in their country? I'd buy that.
This exploit is US based so i guess it refers to that. Never seen any coverage of the EU version of this exploit. US App is different and also back end servers. Honestly don’t know if EU EV6 has remote camera embedded in the head unit software.
Fill your car up with cheap or solar energy for very little money and sell it back to the grid for a much higher price. Put your battery to use and make money from it. Ideal if you don’t need the full range every day.
@evodessey would that not hammer the battery life? FYI we run our house and car on 7p kwh we have solar and 17kwh storage, we sell all solar kwh back to grid SEG at 15p kwh We run car virtually free. Would not charge and discharge daily to grid not shorten battery life ? like you we have hardly any battery performance loss in 2 years and 7 months.
If it was an old style badly thermally managed Nissan Leaf battery i would be worried. If you saw last week’s episode on the Geotab study it’s main findings are DC fast charging & heat are your batteries enemies not actually using it. As long as you keep it within 20-80% SOC it should be fine. We can’t have a home storage battery until we downsize so at least this solution we can take with us if we move. in V2G setups you are able to set parameters like how much SOC to keep in the battery otherwise it would be unworkable. It’s just yet another alternative way of getting your energy bill down.
Most people wont have solar / batteries, so this is an excellent way to sell energy to the grid when required, for little investment (maybe a new charger). Payback time for battery only storage without solar is currently too high (for most people >10 years).
@jonfb1683 have you actually priced that up ? smile 5 hibrid inverter £1500 + 2 x £1984 for 2 5.7kwh batteries + £500 install costs £6000- £6500 house running costs drop from 30p kwh to 7p kwh Sadly you would still pay standing charge. This option works for some people. and with that particular set-up a 2 string solar array could be added later plug and play. so could a wind turbine or both. FYI. No don't fit solar lol I just did a lot of research before I purchased my system. We will be 2 years in on November 30th. The 3 batteries we have were £9k today the same batteries would be £6k like for like. We are on 7 yr 1 month payback at current prices. However it's hard to factor in running the car for free. as we used to put £200 fuel in every month. Now it's zero. In theory that saves a further £2400 anually but that's hard to factor in as we had to purchase the car.
Valuable info , especially appreciate the update from around the globe
Thanks for the updates. As I suspected, Kia UK customer service might only be reading the sales datasheets and not necessarily knowing the full in and outs on a technical front with regards to V2H/G. Really hoping all the new EV3/EV6 FL & EV9 get it in the UK 🤞🏻
I actually tweeted that MyEnergi story at Kia UK on Thursday saying it’s a pity no V2G support in UK. The following day Kia puts out that EV3 V2G video. Then today i read a story about California mandating V2G on all new EVs. It’s time has really come i feel.
@@evodessey this is great news. Let's hope the chargers, firmware, tariffs and electric network infrastructure all comes together soon. I doubt worldwide models will have different electronics on board I suspect it will be a firmware or sales based decision on which models to support. It wouldn't surprise me if the original EV6 is capable too.
I sat in a refresh EV6 which I'm pretty sure was a GT-Line or GT-Line S and it had a dashcam fitted, the salesman told me that the built-in dashcam is not available in the UK spec, so it seems not all of the advertised features will be available in the UK .
Hyundai talked about wireless charging many years ago with the GV60. It's supposed to be a standard from WiTricity, but I don't know of any market where it's being implemented. At the moment, this statement makes me think of the automatic robotic chargers that were hyped at the time of the launch of the Ioniq 6, which also did not materialize on a large scale.
If you tap the miles and time to destination it displays the estimated soc at destination the previous s/w update had that. It doesn’t prompt for reroute and goes back to the map after a few seconds. The ev6 its quite small and a grey low contrast which to me seems really stupid as it only shows 2 small figures on the 12 inch screen. The Niro ev its whiter and larger on the 10 inch screen.
Agree, the previous update had this. What I was hoping for is better estimation of SOC on arrival in the latest update. It's so far off that I use ABRP instead to plan my charging stops.
I've seen claims that the hackers' custom app allowed them to peek at the cameras. If that's that case then does it mean KIA owners using that app could have access to the features that KIA decides are not available in their country? I'd buy that.
This exploit is US based so i guess it refers to that. Never seen any coverage of the EU version of this exploit. US App is different and also back end servers. Honestly don’t know if EU EV6 has remote camera embedded in the head unit software.
why would anyone want vehicle to grid ?
Fill your car up with cheap or solar energy for very little money and sell it back to the grid for a much higher price. Put your battery to use and make money from it. Ideal if you don’t need the full range every day.
@evodessey would that not hammer the battery life? FYI we run our house and car on 7p kwh we have solar and 17kwh storage, we sell all solar kwh back to grid SEG at 15p kwh We run car virtually free. Would not charge and discharge daily to grid not shorten battery life ? like you we have hardly any battery performance loss in 2 years and 7 months.
If it was an old style badly thermally managed Nissan Leaf battery i would be worried. If you saw last week’s episode on the Geotab study it’s main findings are DC fast charging & heat are your batteries enemies not actually using it. As long as you keep it within 20-80% SOC it should be fine. We can’t have a home storage battery until we downsize so at least this solution we can take with us if we move. in V2G setups you are able to set parameters like how much SOC to keep in the battery otherwise it would be unworkable. It’s just yet another alternative way of getting your energy bill down.
Most people wont have solar / batteries, so this is an excellent way to sell energy to the grid when required, for little investment (maybe a new charger). Payback time for battery only storage without solar is currently too high (for most people >10 years).
@jonfb1683 have you actually priced that up ? smile 5 hibrid inverter £1500 + 2 x £1984 for 2 5.7kwh batteries + £500 install costs £6000- £6500 house running costs drop from 30p kwh to 7p kwh Sadly you would still pay standing charge. This option works for some people. and with that particular set-up a 2 string solar array could be added later plug and play. so could a wind turbine or both. FYI. No don't fit solar lol I just did a lot of research before I purchased my system. We will be 2 years in on November 30th. The 3 batteries we have were £9k today the same batteries would be £6k like for like. We are on 7 yr 1 month payback at current prices. However it's hard to factor in running the car for free. as we used to put £200 fuel in every month. Now it's zero. In theory that saves a further £2400 anually but that's hard to factor in as we had to purchase the car.