the issue is that many of these people legit are just dumb. They don't care about wasting their time, they don't care about wasting money. They just addicted to the gratification of feeling like they're better than others no matter the means required. So they'll probably just get a new account and start cheating (often getting hacked accounts etc that can be bought for cheaper or just waste accounts sold online).
@@Real_MisterSir "They just addicted to the gratification of feeling like they're better than others no matter the means required." See this is what I don't understand... If you need your hand held by a computer to even come close to what a good player is capable of, then how does that ever equate to them feeling like they're better? I just cannot fathom it
@@Xenro66 it's more to do with, they know they are cheating and are scum because of it, but they just want easy wins because their smooth brain can't do it on it's own. Also that they ruin the game for the enemy team and some of their teammates who want fair matches.
I like how mechanical overwatch is to the point that even a aimbot application cannot even fix how god awful their mechanicals are and their limited knowledge of the game
@@miceatah9359 not really though, good luck winning against a rage hacker in csgo. Atleast you have a chance to beat cheaters in ow provided they suck enough at the actual game
The sad thing is the people on teams don’t mind cheaters until they on opposite teams. Always get them outta there no matter if they on you team or not.
I know it sucks to lose SR but I would've just thrown the game if those cheaters were on my team. Rather lose SR than get it by being carried by people who don't even deserve the win. Really sad for their shitter tanks to be tryharding the whole time.
@@T190-o4e so you dont mind when the enemy team has a cheater? you dont care if the other people on the enemy team don't gaf... you seem hypocritical because i bet you don't care when there's a cheater on your team but you'll probably start crying if the enemy team has one.
@@Robertdbd20 How are you losing SR is you draw? Isn't that the point? So both teams arent penalized for having a cheater on your team, and going against a cheater?
@@tropicalattitude2258 Exactly, it takes all the inputs and hero selections of all the players in the game and recreates the match in the game engine based on those inputs, but it's not actually a recording of the match itself. So because of that things like the physics engine and ragdoll physics will behave a little differently every time. Since it's a recreation it can also lead to some weird bugs like wonky mouse movements that weren't present in the actual match, which sometimes can make someone who wasn't cheating look like they were. In this case though it's pretty obvious they were cheating. Flats also mentioned that there were times when the cheater's bodyshots were counted as headshots, but that could have been a visual bug from the replay player as well where the hitbox of the player just didn't match the playermodel.
I never understand why people want to cheat in games like Overwatch or League. Like any competitive game, why are you going to put time into something you don't want to put any effort in.
that's the key. They want the gratification without having to put in the effort - usually because the effort would show they could never be as good as they desire. It's a mental illness, literally. The inability to cope with inferiority complex and a need to escape it by any means. Even if you hear interviews with most cheaters they'll often say they are bored and have a kinda non-desire towards whatever they're cheating in. They don't have the passion to motivate them, but they still have the desire to feel better than others, in order to feel better about themselves (aka inferiority complex). What I don't understand is, how they can afford to burn so much money. Cheats are not cheap. And one can assume that the accounts they use are probably second hand, hacked, or in other ways acquired through illegitimate means from 3rd party sellers. But still, it's an awful lot of money and time wasted on something that will never do anything meaningful for them. Like any addiction really.
@@Real_MisterSir Yea I’ve seen how indifferent they are to it, pretty sure they just enjoy pissing people off and ruining their fun. Thats all there is to it. There is no other way cheating can self gratify someone. Its fucking sad because people don’t even really rage that much against cheaters, we’re also indifferent to them cheating. Whenever I see one I’m like well I guess this match is pointless I’ll just wait for the next one lmao. Its a real mystery, I do believe they’re “bored” but more than that they’re just fucking annoying people. Its such a true waste of time for everyone involved. Devs have to stay on their toes constantly because some asshole who never leaves his room is “bored”, actual players have to sit and wait for matches to end with cheaters, and the cheaters themselves have to constantly make new accounts and use different cheats.
Just imagine how trashy you have to be to cheat in a video game when it means absolutely nothing and you only do it for the little pride you have left.... money wasn’t even on the line.
I imagine it'd be very profitable to make hacks for Overwatch, make them cost as much as the game itself, and that's just free money from idiots who just wasted money on something they'll use for 2 days before they get caught
Also imagine how trashy people have to be in order to brag about having cheaters on their team. I was so hoping Flats' team won mostly to rub it in those tanks' faces.
@@Pocket_Sora the funniest part is that the people who support cheaters in games are usually just as bad, if not worse at the game when compared to the cheaters. Reminds me of when I used to play TF2 and people wouldn't kick a cheater cuz they needed them to even do anything. It's honestly hilarious that with 2 cheaters, the match even got as close to a dub for flats as it did. Just shows skill is always worth the time and effort put in.
If OW2 has any chance of being successful then Blizz needs to crack down harder on cheaters, hardware bans are the only way forward especially with the high prices of hardware
I remember on a smurf account I have I came across a cheater in mid/low bronze playing soldier, his aim was ridiculous but his game sense and map knowledge was horrendous, he didn’t know how to sprint or helix. He fell of the ledge in Nepal so many times, I honestly would’ve thought a cheating bot was playing if he didn’t type in chat
@@EBG... Crosshairs were pretty much the same spot at close range, on my back at long range (with projectile drop). Long story short, Hanzo arrows are buggy sometimes.
Honestly there's been so many hackers lately... feels like a party for the report button. but in all seriousness most of the hackers i run into just use walls but if they get called out for walls they start aimbotting and its like *thats not helping ur case buddy*
The feet headshot thing can be explained by the limitations of the replay feature in OW....mostly because it's generated from your data alone and is missing the other player's data and the server data....i.e Ping connections etc.... TLDR: The replay option is best guess to what happened rather than gospel truth.
Me and my friend had a cheater accuse us of hacking so he turned his up to 11, went on soldier and had infinite headshot aimbot. We all reported his ass and he got banned but these people are insane and gold brained.
Just want to say, like Flats said, hitting through trees isn't sus, just consistently is impossible. Same for that genji 180. Someone could pull off that genji dash>right click>melee, and I've done it myself quite a few times, but it's very hard to do consistently, and if he was genuinely a higher ranked player, he would dash so they are in front of him, and right click their head, making the combo much easier to pull off.
Seeing videos like this are always great when you compare it to Kephrii making a cheating accusation. Not in the possibly expected sense of "a real cheater vs a fake cheater" but in the "yeah this dude is obviously cheating, let's see the communities reaction" type of way. Like that time Kephrii accused Liar_OW (Chinese player, not the other guy) he did most of the same shit as these two hackers. The reaction though? "Oh he's just really good" "oh it was just an accident that he tried to shoot someone through a wall" "oh it's just lag" "replay isn't always accurate." It took the guy getting banned on two accounts, and having been a proven liar (heh) about getting unbanned for people to go "Oh ok yeah this guy is actually cheating" lmao Not exactly defending here, especially not with his obviously false hackusations, but it is very interesting to see the absolute lengths people will go to defend a suspected cheater when he's the main making the accusations, vs people like Flats.
Liar was also contenders in the past and had some streamer friends who believed he was playing legitimately, so those were some good excuses for him. Kephrii is also known for throwing fits and hackusating, like he's hackusated an entire collegate team and multiple Overwatch League players and managers of hacking before. Before I saw actual proof of the hacks on reddit I just heard about Kephrii hackusating yet another time and rolled my eyes
I don't understand why people are so quick to defend cheaters either. Like the guy in chat saying "maybe they're not cheating" after Flats got tracked through the tree. I mean cmon, you can even see the weird crosshair movement in the kill cam and they're playing on a new account. They were more likely than not cheating from the get-go but for some reason people are so quick to be devil's advocate for these shitstains. Why even try this? Makes them look like a dumbass when they're so obviously proven wrong.
@@joecon601 Its because they think claiming someone is cheating is just a scapegoat to avoid admitting they're better than you. They'd rather let the cheater get away with it than look like they're just a salty loser, even if they're completely in the right. Cheaters of course fuel this themselves by insulting them when they try to call them out, but then there's also the kids pumped full of ego and bravado; go to any cheat exposure video and you'll see them claiming "lol these shots are easy. People at the top make them all the time, myself included." Its the age old bar room lie "I caught a fish THIS big" but for modern times. Combine both and you get a culture of people who think this type of gameplay is not only humanly possible, but actually so common place that it would be highly embarrassing to admit you can't do it, so rather than risk that shame, they just stay silent about the cheating and/or continue to perpetuate the lie the same way it was told to them. "H-heh, yeah, I make those shots all the time myself. Nothing sus about this gameplay. Get gud!". Peer pressure at its finest. Edit: Reading through these comments I found exactly the kind of thing I just described. Its these kinds of people that keep this bullshit alive. th-cam.com/video/NhLGpZTBPKw/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzngeSAGvJ10CrQ0fF4AaABAg
Well yes, Kephrii has destroyed his own credibility and not taking him seriously is expected, because half the time he's talking out of his ass. On the other hand, Flats doesn't accuse every single player that beats him of cheating, and shows real evidence that isn't just "idk man it just feels weird". Of course Kephrii is going to be right sometimes, but a broken clock is right twice a day. When someone has no credibility and refuses to admit when they're wrong, you'd be insane to take anything they say without a grain of salt.
@@backstabber3537 People hate smurfs a lot. Tbh the only problem with ranked smurfs is that in the first 20 games you play the other team has like 3 genuine bot level 30s, making it totally unfair for the non smurf team.
Cheaters have been getting pretty ballsy recently. I've ran into a few where I'll go sombra and stand invisible sorta near them just to test it out and it's like they get annoyed after a bit and just kill me. I stood on top of the yellow car on first point havana and watched a hacking hog kill my team and then run over to the car, wave at me, then hook me out of invis.
The Genji who deflected the Dva rocket.. that looked like a deflect bot (if you're not like- familiar with that term. It's basically what it sounds like. A bot that runs in the background and deflects projectiles [Sleep darts, Dva rockets *surprisingly(to me)*, Grav's, and if I remember correctly.. anti-heal grenades from Ana? Not too sure.) I also noticed how in about 5:10.. he had a melee bot? (Because his 180 was a bit strange.) So, this guy is literally using blatant hacks. What I find funny is how you remark their Hammond was boasting about being on a team full of hackers! Also, good vid, Flats!
Played against this genji yesterday without seeing this vid, already noticed he wasnt legit after i saw him kill some of my team then i saw killcam on me, he also has 2 other friends who got cheats aswell
It's very clear that those were cheaters, but about "aiming through trees": the amount of detail on the map depends on the quality settings in the game. For example, there's a bush right behind the starting point of the payload in Rialto. But if you have minimum settings applied, there's no bush at all. So, in some cases, maybe there was nothing blocking the attacker's view, but in your Kill Cam, he aimed through trees / bushes / etc. It's not the case of this video, I'm sure.
The same goes for the balloons on blizzard world. Apparently they are only popped on your screen, so one time my friend got potg as widow while sniping through unpopped balloons.
7:24 felt like a horror movie - real evidence of ghosts. Jesus analyzing hackers is like proving ghost are real. Hackers are scary. Every time I meet a hacker - X files theme
Had a brainless cheater boosting a bronze six stack on kings row once, playing in diamond. He was initially aimbotting on doom to be 'subtle' but since it wasn't working switched to soldier. Only thing was all these players were SHIT, so the cheater would just default main with no team support expecting to team wipe, I just went D.Va and matrixed the soldier while someone else just killed him every fight and it was over because the rest of their team were just as brain dead but without cheats. Ended up drawing because we full capped kings row with time, they full capped in overtime and when taking first point, we killed the cheater but didn't manage to cap before he ran back. I matrixed him as he returned but forgot to call for help so he ended up getting a triple before we killed him again. Really should have been an easy win; that would have showed them. In conclusion, cheats can fix the aim, not the brain.
Soooo many in the past weeks. I've stopped playing comp because people are SO OPENLY CHEATING and your teammates are like "nah you're just bad". Nahhhhh i'm not doing that to myself. I hate myself but not THAT much. LOL
I mean...they are, if they get detected of reported. Did you not notice that both the hackers had fresh accounts? If they get banned, they just buy a new account, get to lvl 25 , then hack their way up the ladder again.
The fact Junkrat is usually always guaranteed to damage an enemy especially in enclosed spaces and somebody was like "yeah lemme just use cheats with a character that can hit at least 90% of his shots." Is absolutely mind boggling. Imo the best feeling when playing Junkrat is being killed, and then his bombs absolutely annihilating the enemy that killed him.
12:59 Did he headshot the Hammond that's in ball form? When I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do so. Also his aim feels like he is free to move his cross hair where ever but when it needs to track for the hacks it uses almost the same mouse speed to move his crosshair to the target, THEN releases it back to where it should be. Examples are 10:19 and 9:08, which is why it looks like he is just freaking out when deflecting.
Yo it gets even better every minute… the ball is completely ingorant about the point next second the sig MISSES HIS FLUX ON A LUCIO… and the genji has auto deflect auto-aiming to the pharah from across the map…this is so ridiculous im not even surprised at this point. Also these guys are not gold. As a gold player i can confidently say we do not own these disgusting human beings 😂😂. This is content bois good job keep it up flats we love ya.
I had a 100% accuracy ranked games as Cree on a Plat ranked game and being called a hacker was the best moment of my life but this dps duo is the worst
Imagine having 100% headshot accuracy on widow and not thinking people will know you're using aimbot
the issue is that many of these people legit are just dumb. They don't care about wasting their time, they don't care about wasting money. They just addicted to the gratification of feeling like they're better than others no matter the means required. So they'll probably just get a new account and start cheating (often getting hacked accounts etc that can be bought for cheaper or just waste accounts sold online).
@@Real_MisterSir "They just addicted to the gratification of feeling like they're better than others no matter the means required."
See this is what I don't understand... If you need your hand held by a computer to even come close to what a good player is capable of, then how does that ever equate to them feeling like they're better? I just cannot fathom it
@@Xenro66 Number go up so I'm better beep boop
@@Xenro66 it's more to do with, they know they are cheating and are scum because of it, but they just want easy wins because their smooth brain can't do it on it's own. Also that they ruin the game for the enemy team and some of their teammates who want fair matches.
I've came across a few players that have 100% accuracy on every hero.
Funniest part is that the Genji looked at the Widow POTG and says: "damn, clean"
The fact the sigma missed his flux is more amazing to me than the brainless cheaters 😂
In masters too, no less.
It does bug on the payload sometimes. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt :)
@@7echnoid Been there
@@7echnoid watch the vid again, he missed the lucio by a mile
Emongg misses a flux every day, don't run it on the poor low masters player
i love that when the widow headshots that sigma, flats' body is still flopping over, thats how fricking fast it was lol
I think that all 4 bodies are still falling when the sigma dies, its so fast lol
Thats because of replay fuckery tbf
There are 3 things in life that are certain:
1. Death
2. Taxes
3. Flats's laughter curing cancer.
truth
When Zarya bubbles give me cancer, I go to a Flats video so I can be cured.
taxes arent certain buddy
That laugha always gives me cancer...
Ah, yes, approaching Zarya with deflect. A badge of skill. Truly a masters-level play.
Whats stranger is that the Zarya right-clicked into it.
He simply out mind gamed them smh.
I like how mechanical overwatch is to the point that even a aimbot application cannot even fix how god awful their mechanicals are and their limited knowledge of the game
Exactly, aimbotting only fixes one problem lol
thats with pretty much every shooter tho or comp game in general
@@miceatah9359 not really though, good luck winning against a rage hacker in csgo. Atleast you have a chance to beat cheaters in ow provided they suck enough at the actual game
The most disgusting thing of cheating videos is how the enemy team never wants to draw.
It's even worse when it's a Mercy pocketing them knowing full well they're cheating. That's another level of scum.
I mean free sr might as well take it
@@T190-o4e when they ban them they take th sr away lol, it doesnt even matter
@@T190-o4e Take a shower please…
@@Mscristagalli you take a shower plz and thank you 👌
The sad thing is the people on teams don’t mind cheaters until they on opposite teams. Always get them outta there no matter if they on you team or not.
I know it sucks to lose SR but I would've just thrown the game if those cheaters were on my team. Rather lose SR than get it by being carried by people who don't even deserve the win. Really sad for their shitter tanks to be tryharding the whole time.
If i get a cheater i purposefully soft throw, miss all my shots never use cover etc.
Might as well take the free sr you will either lose it later or keep grinding doesn’t make a difference
@@T190-o4e so you dont mind when the enemy team has a cheater? you dont care if the other people on the enemy team don't gaf... you seem hypocritical because i bet you don't care when there's a cheater on your team but you'll probably start crying if the enemy team has one.
@@Robertdbd20 How are you losing SR is you draw? Isn't that the point? So both teams arent penalized for having a cheater on your team, and going against a cheater?
"These are real life players" - Flats
Me: *laughs in Silver*
Rather be in silver and legit than in gm and cheating tho
lemme laugh with you in unranked :D
Notice at like 12:20, this all happens before flats body even hits the ground
It was Genji's slow mo body falling in front of Lucio that got me xD
That's fucking fantastic
I think that's just a replay visual because you can see Pharah's body fall in different places whenever he rewinds.
@@tropicalattitude2258 Exactly, it takes all the inputs and hero selections of all the players in the game and recreates the match in the game engine based on those inputs, but it's not actually a recording of the match itself. So because of that things like the physics engine and ragdoll physics will behave a little differently every time. Since it's a recreation it can also lead to some weird bugs like wonky mouse movements that weren't present in the actual match, which sometimes can make someone who wasn't cheating look like they were. In this case though it's pretty obvious they were cheating. Flats also mentioned that there were times when the cheater's bodyshots were counted as headshots, but that could have been a visual bug from the replay player as well where the hitbox of the player just didn't match the playermodel.
bro i didn't even notice that he killed 2 fucking people after just killing flats before his body even dropped to the goddamn floor
Flats spectating cheaters is so fun to watch.
That hysterical Flats laughter at the obviousness was the best part.
I never understand why people want to cheat in games like Overwatch or League. Like any competitive game, why are you going to put time into something you don't want to put any effort in.
that's the key. They want the gratification without having to put in the effort - usually because the effort would show they could never be as good as they desire. It's a mental illness, literally. The inability to cope with inferiority complex and a need to escape it by any means. Even if you hear interviews with most cheaters they'll often say they are bored and have a kinda non-desire towards whatever they're cheating in. They don't have the passion to motivate them, but they still have the desire to feel better than others, in order to feel better about themselves (aka inferiority complex). What I don't understand is, how they can afford to burn so much money. Cheats are not cheap. And one can assume that the accounts they use are probably second hand, hacked, or in other ways acquired through illegitimate means from 3rd party sellers. But still, it's an awful lot of money and time wasted on something that will never do anything meaningful for them. Like any addiction really.
@@Real_MisterSir Yea I’ve seen how indifferent they are to it, pretty sure they just enjoy pissing people off and ruining their fun. Thats all there is to it. There is no other way cheating can self gratify someone. Its fucking sad because people don’t even really rage that much against cheaters, we’re also indifferent to them cheating. Whenever I see one I’m like well I guess this match is pointless I’ll just wait for the next one lmao.
Its a real mystery, I do believe they’re “bored” but more than that they’re just fucking annoying people. Its such a true waste of time for everyone involved. Devs have to stay on their toes constantly because some asshole who never leaves his room is “bored”, actual players have to sit and wait for matches to end with cheaters, and the cheaters themselves have to constantly make new accounts and use different cheats.
Participation Trophy kids, no grit.
I think it has more to do with the social aspect, you get treated with respect when you're masterful at something in life.
Yeah I dont get it either , its like they dont even get anything out of it other than maybe a title in a video game big deal.
The shots through the wall at lucio had me
It is kinda nice to see a flats vod, cause I always miss the livestreams
What exactly is a vod 😞
@@oopsitsmad402 Video on demand, AKA a recording of a previous stream :)
Their tanks were perhaps the most embarrassing part of the replay. Remembering those names for the perma avoid
i met this exact duo in quick play as they were at lv 9 and 7 xd
Did you try and report them? 🤔
lol at 5:52 Even Genji knows he's hacking
Just imagine how trashy you have to be to cheat in a video game when it means absolutely nothing and you only do it for the little pride you have left.... money wasn’t even on the line.
And their account will probably get banned very fast too. What is the point?
I imagine it'd be very profitable to make hacks for Overwatch, make them cost as much as the game itself, and that's just free money from idiots who just wasted money on something they'll use for 2 days before they get caught
Also imagine how trashy people have to be in order to brag about having cheaters on their team. I was so hoping Flats' team won mostly to rub it in those tanks' faces.
Your bad is other peoples lube.
@@Pocket_Sora the funniest part is that the people who support cheaters in games are usually just as bad, if not worse at the game when compared to the cheaters. Reminds me of when I used to play TF2 and people wouldn't kick a cheater cuz they needed them to even do anything.
It's honestly hilarious that with 2 cheaters, the match even got as close to a dub for flats as it did. Just shows skill is always worth the time and effort put in.
that one with the d.va missile got me in stitches lmao
If OW2 has any chance of being successful then Blizz needs to crack down harder on cheaters, hardware bans are the only way forward especially with the high prices of hardware
They already do HWID bans, and HWID spoofing exists.
@Raul OW did a pretty good job for a couple years but the biggest cheat program on the market has been undetected, completely, since 2020. 😬
@Raul OW has one of the worst anticheats for any FPS. Cheating is as rampant in OW as it is CSGO.
@@TheFlashinPulsar There are barely any cheaters in OW wtf are you talking about.
@@TheFlashinPulsar bruh not true, look at league or Valorant. OW is fine
I remember on a smurf account I have I came across a cheater in mid/low bronze playing soldier, his aim was ridiculous but his game sense and map knowledge was horrendous, he didn’t know how to sprint or helix. He fell of the ledge in Nepal so many times, I honestly would’ve thought a cheating bot was playing if he didn’t type in chat
Imagine smurfing and getting placed in bronze 🤣
@@erikharrison6425 that's... The point of smurfing tho
The widow at the end got 6 kills walking forward while zoomed in. Nutty
Seeing this reminds me of constantly getting "headshot" by Genjis and Hanzos... but the killcam shows the shot clearly going into my ass instead.
Its because the visual doesn't matter. Look at the crosshair next time it happens.
@@EBG... Crosshairs were pretty much the same spot at close range, on my back at long range (with projectile drop). Long story short, Hanzo arrows are buggy sometimes.
Hanzo's arrows are kinda infamous for that, but it usually just looks weird because of latency.
I mean like in the vid, there are cheats that make it so even if you're around the hitbox it'll turn into a headshot
@@gobbagoo Yeah. Due to the buggy nature of projectiles it's more likely glitching in most cases but the possibility of hacks is real too.
love this video cause its cool to see and learn the breakdown of how the hack players work! super funny they still lost though lmao
Microflicks and vertical tracking is the biggest give away, even the best trackers in the world you'll see over shoot and under shoot.
they didn't lose what do u mean
@@DZIKl hes talking bout the cheaters
Honestly there's been so many hackers lately... feels like a party for the report button.
but in all seriousness most of the hackers i run into just use walls but if they get called out for walls they start aimbotting and its like *thats not helping ur case buddy*
Had these guys on my team the other day, mars shot the enemy sombra out of emp and that was when we knew he turned it up🤣
The feet headshot thing can be explained by the limitations of the replay feature in OW....mostly because it's generated from your data alone and is missing the other player's data and the server data....i.e Ping connections etc....
TLDR: The replay option is best guess to what happened rather than gospel truth.
the replay system is based on the server's data...it isn't client-side lmao you just made that up
Video opening up with tracer shooting at Lucio when he's still behind a wall is too funny.
its amazing that cheaters are still a thing in such high ranks, I know cheaters can happen anywhere just seems odd.
I like how Flat's corpse isn't even done falling by the time that the Ana also gets her head blown off in the Widow's POTG here.
imagine having to cheat in OW in 2022. sad, sad people. 💀
Me and my friend had a cheater accuse us of hacking so he turned his up to 11, went on soldier and had infinite headshot aimbot. We all reported his ass and he got banned but these people are insane and gold brained.
My question is why the hell would you use aimbot on a non-hitscan, especially someone like Genji who is SUPPOSED to get in close!
i lost it when the genji deflected to dva rockets at pharah through the 4 walls i’m dead
he got 4 kills so fast that flat's reaper hadn't fallen over from death yet.
Flats you should put your laugh at 1:33 on your donation alert 🤣 “gaming hackers suck”
11:00 the genji falling in .1x speed, bro im dying.
The music at 10:50 sparked weird childhood flashbacks. I loved Pokémon Colosseum
The dead bodies at the end in slow motion 💀
Flats laughing so hard he can't talk is free serotonin
Just want to say, like Flats said, hitting through trees isn't sus, just consistently is impossible. Same for that genji 180. Someone could pull off that genji dash>right click>melee, and I've done it myself quite a few times, but it's very hard to do consistently, and if he was genuinely a higher ranked player, he would dash so they are in front of him, and right click their head, making the combo much easier to pull off.
that genji just had his cybernetic ninja enhancements on
After watching this i'm contemplating how the fuck am i still stuck in plat.
At the end, I found the body drops in slow motion hilarious 😂
It’s so funny when even the game knows you’re cheating because it’s bugging out trying to figure out what ungodly script is invading it.
Seeing videos like this are always great when you compare it to Kephrii making a cheating accusation. Not in the possibly expected sense of "a real cheater vs a fake cheater" but in the "yeah this dude is obviously cheating, let's see the communities reaction" type of way.
Like that time Kephrii accused Liar_OW (Chinese player, not the other guy) he did most of the same shit as these two hackers. The reaction though? "Oh he's just really good" "oh it was just an accident that he tried to shoot someone through a wall" "oh it's just lag" "replay isn't always accurate." It took the guy getting banned on two accounts, and having been a proven liar (heh) about getting unbanned for people to go "Oh ok yeah this guy is actually cheating" lmao
Not exactly defending here, especially not with his obviously false hackusations, but it is very interesting to see the absolute lengths people will go to defend a suspected cheater when he's the main making the accusations, vs people like Flats.
Liar was also contenders in the past and had some streamer friends who believed he was playing legitimately, so those were some good excuses for him. Kephrii is also known for throwing fits and hackusating, like he's hackusated an entire collegate team and multiple Overwatch League players and managers of hacking before. Before I saw actual proof of the hacks on reddit I just heard about Kephrii hackusating yet another time and rolled my eyes
I don't understand why people are so quick to defend cheaters either. Like the guy in chat saying "maybe they're not cheating" after Flats got tracked through the tree. I mean cmon, you can even see the weird crosshair movement in the kill cam and they're playing on a new account. They were more likely than not cheating from the get-go but for some reason people are so quick to be devil's advocate for these shitstains. Why even try this? Makes them look like a dumbass when they're so obviously proven wrong.
@@joecon601 Its because they think claiming someone is cheating is just a scapegoat to avoid admitting they're better than you. They'd rather let the cheater get away with it than look like they're just a salty loser, even if they're completely in the right. Cheaters of course fuel this themselves by insulting them when they try to call them out, but then there's also the kids pumped full of ego and bravado; go to any cheat exposure video and you'll see them claiming "lol these shots are easy. People at the top make them all the time, myself included." Its the age old bar room lie "I caught a fish THIS big" but for modern times. Combine both and you get a culture of people who think this type of gameplay is not only humanly possible, but actually so common place that it would be highly embarrassing to admit you can't do it, so rather than risk that shame, they just stay silent about the cheating and/or continue to perpetuate the lie the same way it was told to them. "H-heh, yeah, I make those shots all the time myself. Nothing sus about this gameplay. Get gud!". Peer pressure at its finest.
Edit: Reading through these comments I found exactly the kind of thing I just described. Its these kinds of people that keep this bullshit alive.
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Well yes, Kephrii has destroyed his own credibility and not taking him seriously is expected, because half the time he's talking out of his ass. On the other hand, Flats doesn't accuse every single player that beats him of cheating, and shows real evidence that isn't just "idk man it just feels weird". Of course Kephrii is going to be right sometimes, but a broken clock is right twice a day. When someone has no credibility and refuses to admit when they're wrong, you'd be insane to take anything they say without a grain of salt.
10:55 I find it so funny that when the widow got double kills out of the spawn, his buddy, Genji, HASN'T EVEN HIT THE GROUND
I love how the first thing we watch in the replay is them clearly wall hacking
When the Genji blocked the rocket and sent it to the Pharah it had me dead
Dont worry tho...when I call out a cheater in high diamond/low masters I am told I am bad and no one cheats below GM. Vindication feels so nice.
can't accuse without proof tho bro when i was leveling my alt people did moan about cheating lol like tf people think getting outplayed is cheating
@@backstabber3537 People hate smurfs a lot. Tbh the only problem with ranked smurfs is that in the first 20 games you play the other team has like 3 genuine bot level 30s, making it totally unfair for the non smurf team.
1:35 my man literally turned into the joker
Cheaters have been getting pretty ballsy recently. I've ran into a few where I'll go sombra and stand invisible sorta near them just to test it out and it's like they get annoyed after a bit and just kill me.
I stood on top of the yellow car on first point havana and watched a hacking hog kill my team and then run over to the car, wave at me, then hook me out of invis.
bruh it’s like these cheaters want you to know that they’re cheating 🤣
@@dyingoat They get banned pretty quick so it's really just giving blizzard money for nothing at this point.
10:55 LOOK AT THAT GENJI
goddamn, I need to find which gaming chair they're using.
he tryna be a pro to buy the milk his dad never came back with 🎮
The Genji who deflected the Dva rocket.. that looked like a deflect bot (if you're not like- familiar with that term. It's basically what it sounds like. A bot that runs in the background and deflects projectiles [Sleep darts, Dva rockets *surprisingly(to me)*, Grav's, and if I remember correctly.. anti-heal grenades from Ana? Not too sure.) I also noticed how in about 5:10.. he had a melee bot? (Because his 180 was a bit strange.) So, this guy is literally using blatant hacks. What I find funny is how you remark their Hammond was boasting about being on a team full of hackers! Also, good vid, Flats!
That is one hell of a gaming chair they have.
the widow killed 4 people before your body even hit the ground XD
Played against this genji yesterday without seeing this vid, already noticed he wasnt legit after i saw him kill some of my team then i saw killcam on me, he also has 2 other friends who got cheats aswell
It's very clear that those were cheaters, but about "aiming through trees": the amount of detail on the map depends on the quality settings in the game. For example, there's a bush right behind the starting point of the payload in Rialto. But if you have minimum settings applied, there's no bush at all.
So, in some cases, maybe there was nothing blocking the attacker's view, but in your Kill Cam, he aimed through trees / bushes / etc.
It's not the case of this video, I'm sure.
The same goes for the balloons on blizzard world. Apparently they are only popped on your screen, so one time my friend got potg as widow while sniping through unpopped balloons.
Sometimes it happens to the platforms in Route 66 too, saltyphish had a vid on it, but trees always stay the same
tell me you're a hacker without telling me you're a hacker tracer: shoots at wall as she tracks
The stardew theme in the background gave me life
Man I love when flats puts on some content
He kills the Lucio and Phara before your body hits the floor. LMAO
I had a very similar game to this its funny how most cheaters are in diamond/masters until they get banned
10:53 the flying genji lol
The weird over-arc tracking is weirdly enough one that I'm decently okay at. It's extremely satisfying when on a good day, but so situational.
That last dink on that Ana, I didn’t even notice it until you said something. Yikes
13:37 video length, I see you're a man of culture Mr. Flats.
7:24 felt like a horror movie - real evidence of ghosts. Jesus analyzing hackers is like proving ghost are real. Hackers are scary. Every time I meet a hacker - X files theme
Had a brainless cheater boosting a bronze six stack on kings row once, playing in diamond. He was initially aimbotting on doom to be 'subtle' but since it wasn't working switched to soldier. Only thing was all these players were SHIT, so the cheater would just default main with no team support expecting to team wipe, I just went D.Va and matrixed the soldier while someone else just killed him every fight and it was over because the rest of their team were just as brain dead but without cheats.
Ended up drawing because we full capped kings row with time, they full capped in overtime and when taking first point, we killed the cheater but didn't manage to cap before he ran back. I matrixed him as he returned but forgot to call for help so he ended up getting a triple before we killed him again. Really should have been an easy win; that would have showed them.
In conclusion, cheats can fix the aim, not the brain.
Didn’t think that I’d see hackers in 2022, that’d being the case, just glad seeing Flats just straight up laughing & exposing trash gameplay 😂
9:13 THIS IS THE BEST PART HHAHAHAH
BRO pyrite town from pokémon colosseum in a flats video??? max happiness achieved! :,D
Soooo many in the past weeks. I've stopped playing comp because people are SO OPENLY CHEATING and your teammates are like "nah you're just bad". Nahhhhh i'm not doing that to myself.
I hate myself but not THAT much. LOL
6:44 I had a moment like this once as genji and I'm still trying to live up to it 🙃
at 11:47 the genji dabbed
So many aim bots in games recently, I am very sure blizzard is concern on it…or not.
I mean...they are, if they get detected of reported. Did you not notice that both the hackers had fresh accounts? If they get banned, they just buy a new account, get to lvl 25 , then hack their way up the ladder again.
@@Damocles450 exactly we need stronger anti-cheat in the game and comp should be playable at level 75-85 atleast tbh
@@backstabber3537 no
@@T190-o4e why not ?
@@backstabber3537 that would be punishing regular players, and cause more grinding.
it's wild how fast it still was in .10
“My aim is unerring” lol
You can also tell when the widow snaps to someone's head, when they die the crosshair goes back to where it was before the snap
I am watching with both team outlines and didn't even notice that reaper through the wall until the tracer started shooting
Best thing about this video is that every curse Flats says is censored except for “shitbag”.
Stuff like this is part of the reason why I don't play ranked.
The fact Junkrat is usually always guaranteed to damage an enemy especially in enclosed spaces and somebody was like "yeah lemme just use cheats with a character that can hit at least 90% of his shots." Is absolutely mind boggling. Imo the best feeling when playing Junkrat is being killed, and then his bombs absolutely annihilating the enemy that killed him.
5:52 genjis flexing his aim
12:59 Did he headshot the Hammond that's in ball form? When I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do so.
Also his aim feels like he is free to move his cross hair where ever but when it needs to track for the hacks it uses almost the same mouse speed to move his crosshair to the target, THEN releases it back to where it should be. Examples are 10:19 and 9:08, which is why it looks like he is just freaking out when deflecting.
9:47 are his shurikens bending to hit you? i have no idea what the hell is going on
that lucio got sniped in the body until you slow it down as hard as possible lol
"My widow is just that accurate my mom is a black widow and my father was a sniper rifle. Furthermore i have the better gaming chair."
Yo it gets even better every minute… the ball is completely ingorant about the point next second the sig MISSES HIS FLUX ON A LUCIO… and the genji has auto deflect auto-aiming to the pharah from across the map…this is so ridiculous im not even surprised at this point. Also these guys are not gold. As a gold player i can confidently say we do not own these disgusting human beings 😂😂. This is content bois good job keep it up flats we love ya.
What's wrong with that genji at 10:54 ? :D
I love how you can tell someone got caught in 4k by the Pyrite Town music.
L enemy team for not agreeing to draw when they had 2 cheating dps
love the stardew music playing behind overwatch lmao
I had a 100% accuracy ranked games as Cree on a Plat ranked game and being called a hacker was the best moment of my life but this dps duo is the worst
If a random would accuse these people of cheating, they'd probably be called noob and to get better.
12:52 and after seeing that someone in chat fr said I don't think they cheat