Awesome video, Russell! I've been looking into APP and glad to see your thoughts on it. Yikes on the 2600, though I know I guy who made a good video tutorial for cleaning your sensor lol.
Thanks Nick! Yeah pretty gutted about the 2600mm, I’m planning on cleaning it this weekend, so wish me luck! Your tutorial is the one that I plan on following, so thanks very much for that! It’s great 👍
Thank you Pat. I find it such a difficult target to get a good image of, I’m pretty happy with this one though! I’m sure you won’t regret shooting it again 👍
Great image Russell. I have been doing all my calibration and stacking in APP for a while now as I definitely preferred the results I was getting compared to Pixinsight. I think your APP stack looked a lot more natural as you said but also seemed to have a lot more detail without the noise. I'm a little nervous now about my 2600mmPro after seeing yours have that silicone leak issue.
Hey Russell! - man, I can't believe you've had such bad luck with that silicone leak on the cam :-( I'm sure it'll clean off just fine but what a real pain in the butt all the same! Beautiful image and I have to agree with the other commenters so far, your APP version looks plainly better! - I will probably need to look into buying this software at some point, from what I hear it's stacking is extremely robust and a lot more efficient than PixInsight's anyway. Your spinning moon desk ornament is absolutely dope by the way!! Clear skies :-)
Thanks very much Luke, I was really impressed with APP, I wasn't expecting there to be much of a difference between PI and APP, but I was really shocked when I compared the stacked images. It was definitely quicker than PI as well and the user interface was all pretty straight forward...I'll definitely be using it moving forward. Clear skies mate 👍
Nice capture Russell! I also use APP to stack and then PI and PS to edit. I find that APP just does a much better job at stacking and is also much faster and less CPU intensive.
Thanks Joe, yes I was really impressed with APP, I wasn't expecting much difference between the two images so was pretty shocked to see them side by side. You're right, it is definitely much quicker and less CPU intensive...I will be using it for all my images moving forward 👍
Great job with both Russell. I do like the darker dust lanes APP produced and the colors are nice. I kind of prefer the less saturated colors in the pixinsight image.... So really they both are wonderful its just a matter of preference. Maybe when our skies finally clear I'll give andromeda another go. This was also my first target when I started last year and have yet to go back to it. Clear skies and hope you get your issues withe the 2600mm resolved.
Thanks very much James, I'm planning to clean the camera sensor tomorrow so wish me luck 😂 Andromeda is such a great target, I'm sure you will enjoy re-shooting it. I hope you get some clear skies soon. I was impressed with APP, the image was much easier to edit and I think I'll be using it moving forward. Thanks for watching 👍
Both nice images Russell! But I agree with you about the APP. I think the stars look a little less crunchy than the Pixinsight edit! I will have to look at APP myself! Thanks, and clear skies👍
I always use APP for stacking and integrating and then run the masters in Pixinsight. I agree that your APP image is the better. Nice image mate, hope you fix the 2600mm
Thanks Glenn, I was really impressed with APP. It was quick and easy to use, I wasn’t expecting there to be any differences in the images but they looked very different after stacking and the APP image was much easier to edit. I’ll be using it moving forward . I’m planning to clean the 2600mm sensor this weekend…pretty nervous 😬
Thanks very much Mark. No I didn’t do any processing in APP, just stacked the data and exported it to PI. I’m new to APP so haven’t tried the editing yet, would you recommend it?
@@RussellsAstrophotography Still trying to get to grips with things myself ! How are you finding PI to use? I use Affinity Photo but from what I`m hearing PI is the way to go...
@@markmcmanus7124 PI is incredible, it has so many amazing features and truly is an extremely powerful tool. Having said that, there is a steep learning curve, it’s not an intuitive program to use. I’ve been using it for over a year now and I feel like I only know about 15% of the program. There are loads of great tutorials on TH-cam though, visible dark, Amy’s Astro, joes Astrophoto etc all do really amazing tutorials. If you spend the time learning PI it is very powerful indeed 👍
Big thumbs up from me for APP as well. Tbf I've never used PI, but I've never felt the need to as APP just does everything I need it to do and doesn't have a massively steep learning curve. Excellent images as always. Oh and we're going to move to Ciren because the weather in Stroud is so abysmal!! 🤣🤣 (We're actually not, but all things being equal you DO seem to get more better weather than we do 12 miles away 😲) Keep up the excellent videos 🙂
Thanks very much mate! I was really impressed with APP, I’ve always used PI as that’s what people suggested for a Mac, I’ll definitely use APP moving forward! Haha I wish the weather was better at the moment…been pouring for the past couple of week! We did have a few nights a couple of weeks ago though 👍
@@RussellsAstrophotography ah yes I remember those...was off with an abscess immediately followed by a kidney infection 🤦🤣🤣 Sods law I think they call that 🤣🤣 Looks potentially promising a couple of nights next week perhaps 🙏🤞
What are the specs on your iMac? Model, processor, memory, drive type & size. I’m also a Mac user and I’m looking at getting either APP or PixInsight. Nice images!
Hi John, Here are the specs for my Mac: MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2019) 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB 500GB SSD (I wish I had more) I hope this helps
hard to choose which I like, each have their own strengths.. Is this an Issue with the 2600mm?? the leak? I'm looking at the 2600mm for my mono camera but I've seen this issue with other 2600's too.
Yes unfortunately it's an issue with the ASI2600mm. I have heard a lot of people have had the same issue. I contacted ZWO and they send me a PDF on how to clean it which is my job for the weekend...not very impressed to be honest, but apart from this know issue (which should be solved with a clean) it is a fantastic camera 👍
Thank you very much Anthony. I agree, I much prefer the APP edit. I was really impressed with APP and will be using it moving forward. Thanks a lot for watching, I really appreciate it 👍
That´s my story, too. Some year ago I did visual astronomy, but it is hard in or region to see something, you have to travel a lot and as my mount had problems i go rid of it. Last year I bought a start tracker and Andromeda was the target, since then I´m in the business again.
It’s amazing what can happen with just one image. I think andromeda is a lot of peoples first targets…once you see it, or photograph it, most people are hooked! Clear skies and thanks for watching 👍
APP takes first prize for me! Love the PI image as well but it’s definitely a cooler looking image vs the warmth coming through in the APP version. Question - do you use any type of filter for galaxy images? Thanks for the captivating and motivating videos as always!
Thanks Jon, I agree the APP image is much nicer. I really wasn’t expecting a difference after stacking, so was pretty shocked seeing them side by side. I’ll definitely be using APP more moving forward. No, I don’t use any filters for my galaxy images. I’m lucky that I live in a bortle 4/5 area, so I don’t think that any light pollution filters would make a huge difference. I know a lot of people do add Ha data into Galaxy images, but I’ve not tried that yet, maybe something I could try moving forward. Thanks for watching as always Jon, I do really appreciate your support 👍
Thanks Paul, really appreciate it. I really struggle with colors being color blind. I know what you mean though the colors in the PI image are maybe slightly less saturated? I tend to be drawn to more saturated images…I know it’s not to everyone’s taste. Thank you very much for watching
Seems most new ZWO cameras have the same problem with the grease leak. I would clean it yourself then send ZWO an angry email about poor quality control XD.
Yes I’ve purchased the kit to clean it myself and planning to do it this weekend…I’m slightly nervous. I contacted ZWO and all I got in response was a pdf on how to clean the sensor. It’s pretty poor considering they are expensive cameras. I’ve seen lots of people have the same issue now, especially with the 2600.
The APP colors are a bit too much. It's not because a software can that you have to. Matter of taste.... that reminds me of 20 years ago when text processing software became available with hundreds of fonts. People felt the urge to use them all in one document.😂
Thank you, really appreciate it. Yes I know what you mean, I tend to like more saturated images…as you said it’s a matter of taste. I know lots of people prefer a softer pallet. It’s one area that I do really struggle with, I’m actually color blind, so really struggle to get the balance right. Thank you very for watching 👍
I like both images very much. I think a bit with the colour a personal thing...great work from you and from both programs.
I love your floating moon lamp :D
Thanks Peter, I love it too 👍
Awesome video, Russell! I've been looking into APP and glad to see your thoughts on it. Yikes on the 2600, though I know I guy who made a good video tutorial for cleaning your sensor lol.
Thanks Nick! Yeah pretty gutted about the 2600mm, I’m planning on cleaning it this weekend, so wish me luck!
Your tutorial is the one that I plan on following, so thanks very much for that! It’s great 👍
@@RussellsAstrophotography 😁 too kind. Best of luck, no sweat you've got this
Nicely done, Russell. You know, I have never gotten a good image of Andromeda yet. I might give it another try.
Thank you Pat. I find it such a difficult target to get a good image of, I’m pretty happy with this one though! I’m sure you won’t regret shooting it again 👍
Great image Russell. I have been doing all my calibration and stacking in APP for a while now as I definitely preferred the results I was getting compared to Pixinsight. I think your APP stack looked a lot more natural as you said but also seemed to have a lot more detail without the noise. I'm a little nervous now about my 2600mmPro after seeing yours have that silicone leak issue.
Thanks Logan, APP was great, I’ll definitely be using it moving forward. 👍
Hey Russell! - man, I can't believe you've had such bad luck with that silicone leak on the cam :-( I'm sure it'll clean off just fine but what a real pain in the butt all the same!
Beautiful image and I have to agree with the other commenters so far, your APP version looks plainly better! - I will probably need to look into buying this software at some point, from what I hear it's stacking is extremely robust and a lot more efficient than PixInsight's anyway.
Your spinning moon desk ornament is absolutely dope by the way!!
Clear skies :-)
Thanks very much Luke, I was really impressed with APP, I wasn't expecting there to be much of a difference between PI and APP, but I was really shocked when I compared the stacked images. It was definitely quicker than PI as well and the user interface was all pretty straight forward...I'll definitely be using it moving forward. Clear skies mate 👍
Nice capture Russell! I also use APP to stack and then PI and PS to edit. I find that APP just does a much better job at stacking and is also much faster and less CPU intensive.
Thanks Joe, yes I was really impressed with APP, I wasn't expecting much difference between the two images so was pretty shocked to see them side by side. You're right, it is definitely much quicker and less CPU intensive...I will be using it for all my images moving forward 👍
Great job with both Russell. I do like the darker dust lanes APP produced and the colors are nice. I kind of prefer the less saturated colors in the pixinsight image.... So really they both are wonderful its just a matter of preference. Maybe when our skies finally clear I'll give andromeda another go. This was also my first target when I started last year and have yet to go back to it. Clear skies and hope you get your issues withe the 2600mm resolved.
Thanks very much James, I'm planning to clean the camera sensor tomorrow so wish me luck 😂 Andromeda is such a great target, I'm sure you will enjoy re-shooting it. I hope you get some clear skies soon. I was impressed with APP, the image was much easier to edit and I think I'll be using it moving forward. Thanks for watching 👍
Both nice images Russell! But I agree with you about the APP. I think the stars look a little less crunchy than the Pixinsight edit! I will have to look at APP myself! Thanks, and clear skies👍
Thanks Simon. I was really surprised by the difference in the two images after stacking! I was really impressed with APP 👍
APP edit was my fav as well.
Thanks Chris, I might need to update this video after the recent PI updates.
I always use APP for stacking and integrating and then run the masters in Pixinsight. I agree that your APP image is the better. Nice image mate, hope you fix the 2600mm
Thanks Glenn, I was really impressed with APP. It was quick and easy to use, I wasn’t expecting there to be any differences in the images but they looked very different after stacking and the APP image was much easier to edit. I’ll be using it moving forward . I’m planning to clean the 2600mm sensor this weekend…pretty nervous 😬
Both look great. Hard to say which I like more. :)
Thank you very much James 👍
Hi, super images from both sets of software. Did you do some post processing in APP? And if so what did you do?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks very much Mark. No I didn’t do any processing in APP, just stacked the data and exported it to PI. I’m new to APP so haven’t tried the editing yet, would you recommend it?
@@RussellsAstrophotography Still trying to get to grips with things myself ! How are you finding PI to use? I use Affinity Photo but from what I`m hearing PI is the way to go...
@@markmcmanus7124 PI is incredible, it has so many amazing features and truly is an extremely powerful tool. Having said that, there is a steep learning curve, it’s not an intuitive program to use. I’ve been using it for over a year now and I feel like I only know about 15% of the program. There are loads of great tutorials on TH-cam though, visible dark, Amy’s Astro, joes Astrophoto etc all do really amazing tutorials. If you spend the time learning PI it is very powerful indeed 👍
@@RussellsAstrophotography Thanks for that :-) Will look at it for sure. Keep up the great work 👍
Big thumbs up from me for APP as well. Tbf I've never used PI, but I've never felt the need to as APP just does everything I need it to do and doesn't have a massively steep learning curve.
Excellent images as always. Oh and we're going to move to Ciren because the weather in Stroud is so abysmal!! 🤣🤣
(We're actually not, but all things being equal you DO seem to get more better weather than we do 12 miles away 😲)
Keep up the excellent videos 🙂
Thanks very much mate! I was really impressed with APP, I’ve always used PI as that’s what people suggested for a Mac, I’ll definitely use APP moving forward!
Haha I wish the weather was better at the moment…been pouring for the past couple of week! We did have a few nights a couple of weeks ago though 👍
@@RussellsAstrophotography ah yes I remember those...was off with an abscess immediately followed by a kidney infection 🤦🤣🤣 Sods law I think they call that 🤣🤣
Looks potentially promising a couple of nights next week perhaps 🙏🤞
What are the specs on your iMac? Model, processor, memory, drive type & size. I’m also a Mac user and I’m looking at getting either APP or PixInsight. Nice images!
Hi John,
Here are the specs for my Mac:
MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2019)
2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7
16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
500GB SSD (I wish I had more)
I hope this helps
hard to choose which I like, each have their own strengths.. Is this an Issue with the 2600mm?? the leak? I'm looking at the 2600mm for my mono camera but I've seen this issue with other 2600's too.
Yes unfortunately it's an issue with the ASI2600mm. I have heard a lot of people have had the same issue. I contacted ZWO and they send me a PDF on how to clean it which is my job for the weekend...not very impressed to be honest, but apart from this know issue (which should be solved with a clean) it is a fantastic camera 👍
Great video Russell both images are good but for me APP is the winner
Thank you very much Anthony. I agree, I much prefer the APP edit. I was really impressed with APP and will be using it moving forward. Thanks a lot for watching, I really appreciate it 👍
APP looks great!
Thank you very much 👍
Not enough memory or not enough free drive space? Different issues.
Yep sorry, I misspoke when I said memory, it was definitely a lack of disk space that was the issue 👍
That´s my story, too. Some year ago I did visual astronomy, but it is hard in or region to see something, you have to travel a lot and as my mount had problems i go rid of it. Last year I bought a start tracker and Andromeda was the target, since then I´m in the business again.
It’s amazing what can happen with just one image. I think andromeda is a lot of peoples first targets…once you see it, or photograph it, most people are hooked! Clear skies and thanks for watching 👍
APP takes first prize for me! Love the PI image as well but it’s definitely a cooler looking image vs the warmth coming through in the APP version.
Question - do you use any type of filter for galaxy images?
Thanks for the captivating and motivating videos as always!
Thanks Jon, I agree the APP image is much nicer. I really wasn’t expecting a difference after stacking, so was pretty shocked seeing them side by side. I’ll definitely be using APP more moving forward.
No, I don’t use any filters for my galaxy images. I’m lucky that I live in a bortle 4/5 area, so I don’t think that any light pollution filters would make a huge difference. I know a lot of people do add Ha data into Galaxy images, but I’ve not tried that yet, maybe something I could try moving forward.
Thanks for watching as always Jon, I do really appreciate your support 👍
I’m imaging m31 currently. I used rgbHa. I shot 90 sec exposures and I have about 16hrs of data. I hope I finally can process a quality image.
Hi Russell, to me in terms of detail both images look identical but for me the PI image is better as the colour is closer to natural and softer.
Thanks Paul, really appreciate it. I really struggle with colors being color blind. I know what you mean though the colors in the PI image are maybe slightly less saturated? I tend to be drawn to more saturated images…I know it’s not to everyone’s taste.
Thank you very much for watching
Both great but I'm with you Russell, APP edit
Thanks very much Riz. I was really impressed with APP, I’ll definitely be using it moving forward 👍
She’s so beautiful 🥹
Thank you
Seems most new ZWO cameras have the same problem with the grease leak. I would clean it yourself then send ZWO an angry email about poor quality control XD.
Yes I’ve purchased the kit to clean it myself and planning to do it this weekend…I’m slightly nervous. I contacted ZWO and all I got in response was a pdf on how to clean the sensor. It’s pretty poor considering they are expensive cameras. I’ve seen lots of people have the same issue now, especially with the 2600.
The APP colors are a bit too much. It's not because a software can that you have to. Matter of taste.... that reminds me of 20 years ago when text processing software became available with hundreds of fonts. People felt the urge to use them all in one document.😂
Thank you, really appreciate it. Yes I know what you mean, I tend to like more saturated images…as you said it’s a matter of taste. I know lots of people prefer a softer pallet. It’s one area that I do really struggle with, I’m actually color blind, so really struggle to get the balance right. Thank you very for watching 👍
APP
APP - astro pixel processor, it’s a fantastic bit of software 👍