M931A2 : Badass Bobbed 5 Ton, 8.3 Cummins Turbo Diesel, Allison Transmission, CTIS
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Ride along with Torquelist as we drive from Pittsburgh to New Jersey, buy a 5 ton military vehicle, then drive it back to Pittsburgh in one.....long day. It has the 8.3 Cummins Turbo Diesel Engine, Allison Transmission and CTIS.
Be sure to leave some comments on what you think of the 5 ton. Stay tuned for more videos with this behemoth.
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I can't believe it fit in your garage. Looks like a tremendous amount of fun.
Thanks ***** !
Would be a fantastic video if the audio was balanced. The music is way too loud. Otherwise, awesome truck!
Luv the paint,
Question is
Ever think of putting in
Folding personnel seats in???
Maybe do a video of
Installing folding seats
In
God that’s a nice truck
why would you get rid of the 6x6? I don't understand... having the 6x6 IMO is the best part!
NOW you may appreciate what American troops deal with every day
Guys seriously balance your audio the music too LOUD.
Sounds great. Do you have any videos of the truck without the music?
As a former Motor-T Marine (3533) LVS operator, this brings back so many memories. It was being phased out by the newer 7 ton Caterpillar powered Osh Kosh trucks but I was fortunate enough to train on these beasts. It is in very good shape, I love it man.
Thank you for your service!!!
i think smoking a cigar while driving this thing should be required
That and saying over and over...."I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle".
Should have stuck with the 6X6, not the bobbed. They were designed as a 6X6 and run better that way. I have a bobbed Deuce M35A2, a bobbed crew cab deuce M35A3 and an M923A2 6X6, I prefer to drive the 900 series any day over the Deuces.
I always find it amazing how much pleasure civilians get out of the machines some of us operate routinely! Great rig
BIG E I know right?! I drive 7 tons everyday and I borrowed a 5 ton when I went home on leave. It pulled more girls than my 'Vette does. Lol
take all the tires and wheels off and balance them all over then have the Turbo turned up and the fuel injection, you should be able to get 75 out of it instead of 50 but you might only get 4 to 5 mpg then
what do I know
Semper Fi
btw the 2.5 ton and 5 ton mean the truck off road rating the on road rating is 5 tons for the 2.5 ton and 10 tons for the 5 ton
Could have done without the music blasting in my ear
Are these dudes gay?
@@michaelbienicewicz2993 prolly
Anyone notice the steering wheel was bent? I love these trucks....
Oh my ! That is better than ANY sportscar. So awesome. One day I may have to get something like that. The real bugout vehicle Great job on the video guys!
Thanks Joe Hanson !
GOD I lust for a truck like that. Best of luck with it.
Ill sell ya one or all 3.
cool truck. None of the dialogue is intelligible. I didn't see or hear anything about what it cost.
Pretty freaking awesome rig! Another one of my "must haves"...well done (go JERSEY!)
Thanks Darren Boddy !!
Another mumbledy video where what the people are saying isn't important enough to make it understandable.
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Sorry geoh7777, we will work on increasing the volume of the dialogue and making it sound more important.
Just disconnect the governor.....all trucks larger than a jeep back then were governed at 55....
We had it up to 65 at one point, but it's not exactly a sports car so it's hard to keep it steady at those speeds!
Once you go over 2,200 RPM's,you'll damage that Engine,it's not a V6 or a V8,it's a Straight Six.There's a reason why the Military has Governor Springs on them,and all 5 Ton Trucks alongside the Deuce except for the M35A3 and M109A4 can do 60 MPH all day long,your Tire Size however will affect you.The highest I went to the limit in my 1971 M35A2 was 68 MPH and once in both my 1991 M923A2 and M931A2 I managed 71 MPH with a adjusted Spring,but these trucks are 6×6,they never are meant for highway speeds,63-65 MPH is your recommend limit,and most times you're not required to go over 55-60 MPH because of the Brakes these rigs have.
Can you tell me how long that bed is on that M931a2 5- ton truck of yours ?
It runs on Spotted Owls. 11MPO (Miles Per Owl).
And bald eagles.
Hope NJEZPass don't see you use a passenger tag for your 5 ton lololol
I would have had the biggest freaking grin on my face the whole way home!!!! If I could have one vehicle, out of all of them out there, it would be a bobbed deuce and a half (or why not a 5 ton?!?! (haha).
I pity the rock that comes up against that front diff center.
You lucky ba$+ards. That's a NICE 5t. Looks good, you guys got a cherry of a truck right there.
I wanna get a 900 when I get my Deuce bobbed an done.
Fucking music videos
I would fit a 125 gallon freightliner tank she's gonna need a nice drink
ANNOYING MUSIC IS NOT A REQUIREMENT
The articulation of the rear wheels on a 5 ton its the most amazing and desirable thing on this vehicle. I have an original 6 wheel and would not change that about it.
Disconnect the governor ! loose the muffler for more turbo whine. you guys sounded so excited when you pulled up in the driveway.
We do love some turbo whine! We'll post another video soon.
Disconnecting the Governor Spring won't do a damn thing.Those Cummins are a Inline Six,there's a reason why they Restrict them in the Military,if you go above 2,200 RPM's,you're going to fuck up your Pistons and Gaskets.
The a2 so much better/ no auto shift!! Multi fuel and so simple, plus Great War tested x 3!!
If you're referring to the Deuce & A Half,the Deuce is nothing compared to the 5 Tons.Low last on Miles and underpowered,the LDT 465 made 330 Torque,both my F-150 and F-250 make 325 Torque,while it has 135 HP.The LDS 465 was 175 HP and 445 Torque,there's a reason why they rebuilt the early 5 Ton Trucks back with Mack Engines after some Variants had Multi-Fuels.The Multi-Fuel itself makes the efficiency of 8-9 MPG,they were worse in the 5 Ton Trucks with 3.2-3.5 MPG.They only last 60,000 Miles and you will have to Rebuild them,they aren't all that great,neither is the truck,they are just like other Medium Trucks,they bend and they break.The Mack Engines and Cummins Engines in the altogether Series of 5 Ton Trucks out there are easy to get Power out of and last many miles as real Diesel Engine should,and the same fuels that a Multi-Fuel uses are the same ones that a Ignition Compression Engine uses,all Oil,except Gasoline,Petrol,and Ethanol because Multi-Fuels have different Pistons,Pumps,and Fuel Injectors that allow them to Combust when mixed with Diesel or Motor Oil at 30% Flammable and 70% Synthetic,you can't burn unmixed Flammables in a Multi-Fuel or you will destroy the Engine just like in any Diesel Truck if you were to do so.
The 673 Mack in the M39 5 Ton Trucks had 210 HP and 685 Torque and the 250 including the 6CTA Cummins in the M809 and M939 5 Ton Trucks both had 240 HP with 724 Torque,250's had 3-4 MPG and 6CTA's had 7-8 MPG.So yeah,5 Ton Trucks win.And the 5 Ton Trucks except for the M939's use a 5 Speed Manual,just like the Deuce.
SS 81 I was looking for a deuce and a half. Probably an M35A2 to be exact. Are you saying they only last 60k miles? And that they aren’t reliable? Because if it requires that much upkeep I most likely won’t get one. But idk that’s hard to believe because I also hear how tough these things are.
@@Nikkk6969 And the same people who tell you that they are beasts are the same ones who will complain and whine once the wheels fall off after running them into the ground.The Deuce & A Halfs weren't all that great.Yeah they could still haul and go off-road,but you won't pull much or go very deep.The NDT-900×20 Tires were horrible for off-roading,they were pavement tires.That is why you see many Deuce Owners use different Set Ups like 1100×20 Tires and even from 53/1200×20-49/1400×20 Tires.The Multi-Fuel as I said previous didn't make alot of power,and they never last many miles.The Multi-Fuel was just a Diesel Engine with different Pistons,Pumps,and Injectors as well with a Compensator that allowed it to Combust Gasoline and other Flammables,when it was mixed with Motor Oil or Diesel Fuel.They had a Life Span of 60,000 Miles and then you had to Rebuild them,they were very fragile.I've seen some go as high as 80,000 Miles,and that's with top notch Maintenance that pays out to that end anyways.If you own a M35A2 as a Parade Vehicle or Off-Road Machine,you can still manage,but surely don't rely on them for long distance or pulling heavy shit with the Multi-Fuel they have,you will still drag anything,but you will handle 5 MPH.There is however the M35A3 which has a 3116 Caterpillar with 290 HP,something you can really depend on,the only issue is just the fact that they only Top at 45 MPH because of different Axles,Ratio,and Transmission.The only issue is that the M35A2 goes from 1967-1988 and the M35A3 was from 1993-1999,so they are a little hard to come across.
ln 1997 troops in 16 months l use this truck model andie turkey 1947
I own several military vehicles, but i love my m925 5 ton the most.
Great video!! Best part was pops smoking the stogie while driving!
Awesome truck, Brings back some good memories! What is it's GVWR after being bobbed and does it have air brakes or air over hydraulic? Also does the guy you bought it from have anymore?
The M939 5 Ton Trucks have Air Brakes with Air Dryers and Self Bleeding Valves,but you still need to drain the Air Tanks once every two weeks or the Brakes will lock up and stall the Engine.A good amount of these trucks to get converted to ABS.Air-Over Hydraulic Brakes were used in the M39 5 Ton Trucks.
Gudday Mate!
If there was a place, which would allow me to park it...within 25 miles, of where I live; I would really like to own [it] but; no such luck....Oh, Well!!! Have GREAT FUN just driving her!!!
ALVIN LACROIX lol.. Where do you live?
They were multi-fuel engines....we ran usually on "white" gas....cheaper variety sold to farmers...but I believe they'll run on regular and maybe diesel.?? Usually no heater....parts hard to get, unless you have surplus source...
+Industrial Design This one is a cummins, not multi, it requires straight diesel.
You guys should consider using better microphones.
My 923A2 does 63 all day smooth as glass. What was your gas mileage over a 300 mile trip?
+Sean White We didn't really track it, just filled it up along the way.
A M939 5 Ton with a NHC-250 Cummins is 3-4 MPG,and a 5 Ton with the 6CTA Cummins is 7-8 MPG.
Too much fun! I laughed pretty good at some of the exchanges between you guys...
Nice video, am also curious as to how much was paid as I would like to get one of these some day. I drive an M35 as a firetruck here in Colorado, which is a lot more work than driving this truck since it is much older and manual. Much of the interior including switches is identical. This truck is also much faster than the M35, which is additionally appealing.
A Deuce and a 5 Ton both have the same speed range.60-65 MPH.It also depends on what Tire Size you use because of Weight.These trucks can be pushed to 67-70 MPH,but that is unnecessary and extremely deadly to do so,and you just don't want to do it plain simple because these trucks have Straight Sixes,and aren't meant to go over 2,100-2,200 RPM's at all.My Deuce & A Half once got to 68 MPH and my Engine was screaming at 2,600 RPM's,only reason why it got that high is because those Multi-Fuels have different Pistons,Pumps,and Fuel Injectors,they aren't exactly the same as other Ignition Compression Engines.
Nice ...Thinking of getting one for my property in Norther Wisconsin...
If you ever decide you don't want it any longer you can always give it to me lol
We'll keep you in mind if we win the powerball Dwayne!
Dear Santa,
...
nice build but holy cow does that fuel system need work. either you got bad filters, or your sucking air from somewhere these trucks should crack off quicker than your car.
+HASSON454 It needed some work, we took it to our local diesel guy and it does crank over immediately now, a little more power too.
Audio sucks. Had to turn it off 20 seconds in
I haven’t drove one since I left the military over 24 years ago back then we called low and slow but it would just about go anywhere.
Awesome I'll pray that you win the powerball then lol
What model transmission is it??
What's the mpg?
"Hey what kind of fuel do you give it? Diesel? Gas?"
"Other trucks...".
there's a guy in Mullica Township New Jersey who sells them
I'm in New Hampshire.
Who is the dealer that sells the bobbed 5 ton
Music way too loud and distracting
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION EVEN GRANDMA CAN DRIVE THAT THING PUT A 10 SPEED OUT OF SEMI TRUCK
Has it been reliable, and what do you do with it?
+Chris Boerstra It's just for kicks mostly, but we've had it up at the hardware store a few times to get heaver loads.
Did they let you in NJ with that thing? I'd have figured the swat team would have been called out as soon as you crossed the border.
We left NJ promptly MrZedblade, and went back to (mostly) free country in PA.
Music is hilariously annoying. Was too loud, and probably not even needed.
Whats your mpg. Om thinking about getting a crew cab.Have a good one.
Be great during rush hour and people won’t move out of the way!
When those protestors try to block the road
How much do these go for?
Anywhere from $7,500-$20,000,depending on area and condition.
0:47 that's what she said
Is it the multi fuel engine?
Negative Marcia Bowlin, this truck needs proper diesel.
thats actually called a bertha
Where can I buy one that's been bobbed
You can buy this one! It's currently for sale.
facebook.com/marketplace/item/686848771776130/
What was the gas mileage?
In my day that was called a Duece and a Half, or 2 1/2 ton. The five ton had dual rear axles.
You're correct Steve, this one is "bobbed," which means that is has one of the rear axles removed.
Deuce and a Half has dual rear axles too!
i love downshift gearbox
how much does that cost to fill up each time? i know it should have a 50 gallon tank, but that could have been changed when it was bobbed?
There are two tanks, one on each side. We didn't run them dry yet, but 50 gallons sounds about right from looking at them.
thanks
I'd like to but I want a multi fuel with the whistler turbo
Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum I ride with a guy who has a m35a2 multifuel he fills his with 20 gallons of diesel and 30 gallons of waste motor oil so it brings fuel costs down a ton.
You bought it at govliquidation, auction 7269423
Volume alert. Jackass opening noise and then up and down.., not worth it.
Why is the steering wheel warped when it has power steering? Was it a manual steering unit before?
Very nice truck
What an awesome rig! I truly don't mean to be nosy, but what approximately does it cost to pick up something like that? You don't have to be specific... ballpark is fine.
Sandra Chance The standard trucks are actually quite reasonable.. You can usually find them for around $10k. However.... Once you start modifying them, the price can easily skyrocket, depending on what you have done to it (which is pretty much the same for any vehicle :) )
That is a truck.
Just curious , how much was this beast ? Was looking to do a deuce and a half out here in California but they have all dried up. All that is left are the 5 tons. It was about a additional $3k-4k to the price of the truck to have it bobbed. Nice truck. Congrats.
Selling the 5-ton Rockwell axle that you take off should soak up most if not all of the labor cost. Or, do it yourself, it's not rocket science.
Is there a dealer in Pittsburgh?
isx cummins 8.3 cant wait to start ripping those apart looking at getting one .. as my daily driver
+crazymohawk86 This is an C series. Not an X.
Where do you get those jacks from and pioneer gear?
These were all governed at 55.
We had it up to 65 once or twice, it was a handful at those speeds, perhaps a previous owner removed the governor.
What are your plans for the truck?
We're not exactly sure Sour Dough Racing, but a few modifications are definitely in order. We need some 12v power in the cab to run any of the electronics we want. We may also add some 53" tires and a few power modifications.
How much?
I guess the obvious questions are; how much? and why?
Too much....and...why not?
I want one
If you want a wrecker I have 2. Less than 25k miles on either one. Have a 931 semi also it has less than 6k on it. It had 800 miles when I got it
Because this is bobbed do you need a cdl or just a regular license?
Man the truck nice truck y’all got,
Git it dirty
I loved the vehicles I drove in the Army, While I had little experience with the 5-Ton I always liked the classic looks of them but if I had my choice I would have an LMTV, Most comfortable to drive truck of it's class and it would have endless utility on the ranch.
You should see the new p2 cabs. Even better then you had.
cool
A quick tip for diesel vehicle owners: You should cycle the ignition to the "run" position to allow the glow plugs to warm up before you crank a diesel vehicle like these guys did in the video.
not sure how to do this in a military style vehicle but using compression to heat up the cylinders will only wear the starter more.
Not all diesels use glowplugs. Because it is Cummins-equipped, it may have an intake grid heater.
Richieb9280 8.3 Cummins is a grid heater style air intake heater but you still have to turn the key and wait for the grid to heat up instead of the glow plugs.
Awesome damn truck! Anybody know what the easiest way to increase your top speed in these besides just putting on bigger tires?
small gears in the rear end
+Ap3xglide smaller*
THese things seem like a good idea especially for a SHTF scenerio untill you realize how absolutely bad of mileage they get... then if SHTF it'd make a better road block than method of transportation. You'd need a federal budget, in debt just to afford to drive the thing around.
Isa C Im pretty sure this is a multifuel vehicle. So in a bad situation you could throw just about anything in the fuel tanks and it'll run.
These only run on proper diesel, but they hold ~100 gallons.
Some run on fuel oil or motor oil among other things... but point still stands... draining oil pans to get enough fuel, sure but... What makes you think that in a scenario where gasoline or diesel was scarce motor oil would somehow be abundant?
Isa C Because there would probably be abandoned vehicles all over thr place, and very few would be multifuel capable like some military vehicles.
You mean like if zombies took over?
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Awesome tinker toy,
Want to sell it yet ?
When you go from 6 rear tire to 2, it's not really a 5 ton anymore, is it?
+Joe M Probably not, but what else would you call it? Modified M931a2, one axle gone, chopped 923a2 bed installed...it's a mouthful, so we just call it the 5 ton.
Those big Michelins, depending on type and size, have a maximum load rating over 11,000 pounds, per tire.
But the truck weighs 10 tons empty in stock form, so will the modded one still carry 5 tons in the bed like the name implies with 2 tires instead of 8? It is a cool looking truck no doubt, but isn't essentially just a overweight deuce and a half with too few tires now?
Also, do you really get the same befit from the CTIS with only two big tires?
if its bobbed its a descion breaking thing for me really its just preferance. id rather have 6 wheels. for a number of reasons
awesome!!!!
Is a CDL required to drive this?
No.
@@Slim_Slid how tho? You're above 26,000lbs GVWR and with air brakes. I'm genuinely curious and plan on buying either this or a deuce and a half. I live in texas and whenever it floods we evac people and a big truck would certainly help. Not trying to be difficult just seeking knowledge
@@MrJohnsonx3 I live in Texas and spent six days in Hurricane Harvey with my M923A2.You literally can drive these with just a DL,some of these trucks for a fact have been converted to ABS,because of Brakes locking up and stallling the Engine all because of lack to remember to drain the Air Tanks once every two weeks,even though these trucks have Air Dryers and Self Bleeding Valves.And your stats are way off,a M923 Cargo Truck isn't nowhere near 26,000 lbs,they are 21,550 lbs empty.In Texas,you are allowed to drive a Vehicle that can weigh up to 26,001 lbs,if it's heavier,you are required to have a CDL in most cases.You are allowed with such a Vehicle to even have it up to 33,000 lbs if you use it for hauling something.You have to own it under register as a Private or Antique Vehicle,and it depends on what Year exactly the truck was built.A Deuce & A Half literally has a Air Brake System in them to,for Trailers,and the M35A3 along with the M109A4 have Air Brakes to,and anyone can own them also as a regular Vehicle,even though the Deuce itself empty is a 12,880 lbs Truck.
@@Slim_Slid I too am in Texas, Houston specifically. Everytime it floods I evacuate people and I'm tired of getting water in a pickup. I'm planning on buying one next year as a flood recovery vehicle. I've got a few questions, can we swap emails?
@@MrJohnsonx3 If you don't have any other associates in Social Media.You are more than welcome to Email me at ianbotello@gmail.com .I will try and answer my best on knowledge on any questions you personally want to ask,if you need other members or relations,I will add them in.