How to get more air on your wakeboard! Even with a small wake!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- One of the most frequent questions, "How do I get more air?" and "How do I get more air off my small wake?" In this video I explain how body position and using some key drills can get you into the air higher than before, even when using a small wake. This edit is a follow up to my video titled "How To Get More Pop". If you haven't watched that yet, start there to understand how all of the physics of wakeboarding can feel more like a friend than an enemy. Click this link to see this video I'm talking about. • How To Get More Pop Of...
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Never seen someone start backwards out of the water. Amazing
That's some ol school stuff
Thats how alot of people start to barefoot ski
Reminds me of backwards bare footing !
It's always a good day when you come out with a video!
Hey Shaun, great tutorial
I was woundering if you could make a video behind a jetski. Here in Brazil a lot of wakeboarders practice behind a jetski, but we are having trouble regarding speed, rope lenght, pop techniques and stuff. It would be great to have a pro giving some tips about it.
Cheers
Eu tenho um Yamaha FZS e o que eu faço é sempre ter 2 pessoas grandes montado para fazer mais pesado. Isso cria ondas mais grandes. Se seu jet ski tem “trim” coloque ele no modo mais baixo. Rope: use 15 metros/50 feet. Essas coisas vão te deixar aproveitar o máximo
Just subbed, I'm newbie at wakeboarding and this is my third summer at it. I'm loving it and just learning to jump and have been luck getting some tips from a OG Jason Cooley. Thanks for your videos I appreciate it. 🤘
Jason Cooley! Thanks for subbin and enjoy your ride...Ride Red!
How do you flip w no wake ! I'm 54 Now , we have these kids have no idea just want to wake skate. Trying to teach them how great the power is.
Thank you
Todd, I don't have a video on just that topic, which makes me think I should down the road, but here's a video that may help understand the idea but also help explain the concept of power to the kids
whats that trick called when you go on your back and do a 360? reminds me of a trick called layback I used to see people do years ago.
Rode once this season here in Michigan!
Reviwing the basics from the master. Shaun your skills and power behind the boat are in the record books. You are a natural rider, coach and a good communicator........all the hallmarks of an Ambassador. Keep up the good work!
Have a good season everyone!!
Brilliant! I've been waiting for some more info on pop at the wake. I get some time with good wakeboats but a lot of my longer practice sessions are via PWC. I'm the same height 5'6'' with my weight at 150lbs. I ride a heavy 2017, 138 board and looking at a 2019 lighter 142. I see you ride a 137&144 how much difference to you does it make and why the different sizes, please? I'm a good novice, fast approaching intermediate. Any advice would be so much appreciated... Great to see you back dude, stay happy.
I find more surface area generally allows for better pop and stable/solid landings. People's hesitation is having too much board to handle but you'd be surprised w my shape how easy it is to manage. I def wouldn't say it if I thought it was a bad idea.
Top man Shaun... Thanks a bunch for the quality feedback. I will def let you know how I get on with the bigger board, once the sun comes back around to these shores, that is. Peace!
How fast do you usually have to person go driving the boat?
First time riders around 16mph. Beginners getting around decently, 18ish. Getting into the air 18-20. Wake to wake 20-22
@@Shaun.Murray thank you for responding, I went wakeboarding today and was going around 19-21 mph
Were you born with that board on your feet? you make it look effortless
Hi there! If I weight 59kg would a 138 board be ok for me? Im asking as I see you always recommend to size up the board cheers! 🙌🏻
I’m about 68 kilos and I ride my 139 or 144 when I want to go bigger. You could ride the 138 easily.
And now how do I do this at the cable park? :D
James, off a kicker or the flat water in the corners?
@@Shaun.Murray lots of people around my level, who are casual wakeboarders at my park always complain we can't ollie onto the obstacles, so the 'safety' turns into a massive ramp. It seems like a really scary part of learning as I'm not sure how the progression looks -- I can do a knee height ollie, but I see people doing 6foot ollies, so I'm not sure how to progress
. Example obstacle would be the Unit pipe. Hope this makes sense. thanks for taking the time to read the replies!
Quick question. I am 190 lbs riding a 140 cm. Is it too small for me?
I'm 150 lbs riding my 139 and even my 144 sometimes, so in my humble opinion, yes. You could go up to my 144 very easily, if not 150 for a fun change.
what is that trick called at 4:05?
Air roll to revert
I thought you were supposed to hold your edge all the way through the wake no????
for the most part, but it's to and through the bottom of the wake and then release the power at the top of the wake.
@@Shaun.Murray thank you I'll try giving that a shot, I just started wakeboarding and I love it already
hell yeah shaun, sick tutorial!
Thanks JB:)
I want to be Shaun Murray when I grow up 😭 I've been wakeboarding for about 3 years now and still struggle to get any pop off the wake 😭😭😭
Same I’ve only cleared the wake twice successfully
What if you have a low rope position (no tower) ? I’ve always thought that was the reason I couldn’t get good pop. Is that true?
I’m wondering the same thing, I wakeboard behind a board
asking me too
You can still get good pop but it definitely helps to have an extended pylon or tower. I started with a low rope position and ended up purchasing an extended pylon for our ski boat and it makes it much easier.
how to get more air:
does tantrum and rodeos
Thank you so much for this. I have a 19 foot boat and even with ballast I cant get a huge wake. I've been watching your tutorials and its helping huge! I'd love to make it down to Florida and get some private lessons from you!
Glad to help Shawn!
It’s nice to know that he isn’t getting that much higher on the small wake than I am. I can clear my wake, but the air I get isn’t great. The boat I’ve been riding behind is a jet boat, so it has a tiny wake.
Can ride behind anything and have a good time for sure!
Shaun, I met you for the first time 20 years ago in Rio Linda, CA and seen/talked to you as I’ve grown up. You’ve been such an incredible role model as I grew up. Thanks for producing such awesome content.
Thanks for watching Chase!
How fast was this? I’m trying to use a GS24 and am at beginner/ intermediate. Can clear the wake but just isn’t that high. I’m still practicing but 18.5 seems slow. thank you!
This is hella helpful.
I've been wake boarding all my life and I am ready to take my game to the next level. What is the best way to put myself out there and get noticed?
Being marketable to companies in any way you can think of. The bigger your platform to show product, the better
That’s awesome!!! This is the video you were talking about at the boat show in Atlanta. Thanks Shaun for the great info.
That flossing though 💯
Thanks Danz.
Very impressive. Still waiting for the day that I make it wake to wake.
First day I cleared the wake I was stoked!! About the 3rd time I did it - I landed a foot short, edged the board, smacked the side of my head against the lake and blew up my eardrum. Drove home that night over a mountain pass, woke up with a bloody pillow and then drove myself to the ER. Killer headache! Good times just shorten your rope, jump the wake a few times and then bring the rope out to your normal length!
Been waiting on this one to post!! Ready for that warm weather to give it a go!
Hey Shaun, what is your ideal boat speed for the perfect jumping wake? Also, what rope length do you prefer?
Regarding speed, check out my reply to Evan above. 65' is a good rope length for most wake boats and 60 for smaller ski boats.
I go 22 on a 65 foot rope
I have never seen anyone better your awesome 👏
This helped so much!!! I even did it on my second try! It was so much easier than I thought it was.
Why would this even get a thumbs down, wtf ppl? Thanks for the help Shaun, some of us are not a natural wakeboarding prodigy and actually needs some pointers from someone better. You've really helped me go from 1st time out to a confident rider in less than 2 weeks. Cheers !!
Thanks for the support pat. Maybe they had a bad day. Maybe a bad ride. Maybe they had a... I don't know. Can't please em all. But thanks
I'm starting to find my timing with this and definitely feel a huge difference in pop when I do, however I struggle with getting pulled off balance when I do manage to time my release correctly. I feel like it really pulls my upper body over even with the rope at my waist. Watching your vid for the 100th time probably it looks like when you release your upper body doesn't really change position of lean and you release more with your legs. Is that the case? I think I'm releasing more by letting my upper body go more vertical than leaned back.
Shaun, what's the lowest speed where you can still pop with minimal wake?
I find that about 16 is where the water can feel too soft but is still a little rideable to get pop
Bro I subbed 4 u told me 2 :D
Word. Fist bump
What speed did you have the boat going at? And ehat speed to you recommend for beginners?
Approx 20-21 behind the Ski Nautique and 23 behind the G23. Start 1 wake jumps 18-19 for most people. I pull most beginners around 18. Kids at 16.
@@Shaun.Murray are those speed gauges based off a wake boat? I'm behind an old 90's Stratos 2 ski boat. Thing hauls butt! We had to change the prop just to keep it under 30mph in gear.
great video as always, @@Shaun.Murray and what length behind this two boat, with this speed?Riding with or without ballast ? i have VLX from 2002, and usually i am drving around 20mph with 70-75 feet, not sure is this ok. If i ride 65 feet, wakes are just too narrow, and i am contantly landing into flats.
What speed do you go at usually?
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awesome video! nomatter how many times i see it, everytime i learn something new!
Good to hear from you!
Awesome video! I think this really makes sense. You hear all the videos progressive edge and that you should be cutting the hardest at the wake. Where IMO this is not the case because you would slice through the wake every time. You had some TS jumps in there, but think you can do a video similar to this, just on TS jumps? I can do TS jumps but my timing has to be perfect every time and I have trouble going any farther than just W2W. Keep this videos coming! Where is the next place the handle is going?
Thanks so much for this, I can't wait to try this out. Right now there's about 4 feet of ice covering the lake we go to.
You were saying something about it being cold there? Thanks again!
Maybe just chilly:) Get some pond hockey in!
Going to Orlando next month hopefully can make it to owc! Great video as always!
I wanted to know how to jump because I was going wakeboarding and I used this method and it works great. I was way better using this method. Thx a bunch Shaun.
Shaun U are surely blessed. Doing what u love for a living. You are the kindest person to explain and show us the ins and outs of your life Itsvery obvious that Jesus is Lord of your life .Great role model u are sir.. I have skied as late as october 30 here in Iowa. That was chilly. No wet suit. God bless u sir
CZ, I'm super thankful for the life I get to live for so many reasons and getting to share the love of Jesus through the sport is at the top of the list.
@@Shaun.Murray i awalys love watching you
@@Shaun.Murray ps i love your boat
@@Shaun.Murray Jesus is lord 🙏 🙌 ❤ he is the only reason we are here
Shoutout to all the mfs on pontoons tryna get air y’all some real ones!
Shaun using cheat codes out there
up up down down left right left right B A B A select start
Can you explain the 'release" a little more? Are you coming off your edge a little at this point?
Watch the drill where I lean hard and then stop cutting (come off my edge) to create a push upward
His legs are far to stiff the entire time... going to hurt the knees. Yes you want to pull out for distance but man.. you've got to squat to get the good air. Stand up at the curl of the wake. That tactic is an entire new animal compare to what this guy is doing.. you can be looking straight down on the boat each jump if you want to be. These are wimpy jumps.
Can you squat? Absolutely. Is it necessary and an added step that needs good timing? Yep. I teach people to take out the step of squatting to show you don't have to do much of anything and can then add the squat if needed. But in regards to your comment in how I'm going to hurt knees and how you "have" to squat. I don't agree with that and will have a contest with you if you'd like. 😃
favorite speed and rope length?
Hey Shaun great video! Love your riding style,please keep going
So at top of the wake I must release/flatten the board vs holding the edge/load through the wake?
Don't think of it as flattening out but rather coming off the hard lean against the line. That is done at the top of the wake
YES!...My wife keeps saying why do i want to buy a boat in winter cause we cant use it and I keep saying ill buy a wet suit!...Honestly didnt know that was a thing, glad to see it can be done.....Epic skills out there dude! Seriously make that shit look so fun.....Any special wetsuit wakeboarders use?
Always fun watching and learning from your video! You are awesome! Thank you! 😁
Thanks Mimi!
Owc 💙 love your channel murray hope one day meet you!!!
Here's to one day 👊
Thanks for the video man! Is jumping like this also possible when the rope is coming from a low point? I dont have a wakeboard tower and just use a low point..
This is a good and common question, so I've added to my list of edits I'd like to do. Not sure how soon I can gett'er done but will do what I can. The answer is mostly yes, but the rope tying high doesn't necessarily pull you up, but it doesn't pull you down, which tying low can feel like.
@@Shaun.Murray thanks for the respond man! And keep going with these videos, they are inspiring!
Hey Shaun at 5:28 you talk about riders squatting down sometimes on the approach to the wake. Does this add anything at all to the jump like height? It seems like it’s just adding more steps and difficulty.
It CAN add air but like you said it can add another step. This can cause a whole bunch of problems for riders especially those who are having trouble feeling that "true" pop. Way more important to edge through the bottom and then that release of pop at the right moment, at the top of the wake, is where it lies. The power you can get w your legs isn't much compared to the power in the physics. Push, pull and pendulum. If timing is off, those feel like your enemy. But when on, whole different feeling!
Hi Shaun, is it possible to do a raley on small wakes? I ride behind a Zodiac Medline 6.6 with 150hp. I can easily do wake 2 wake
It's possible but pretty difficult. I wouldn't learn them behind that small of a wake and from that low tow point. Can be done but I'd be pretty nervous.
Great video. This has been super helpful for my son and me. Is a tower necessary? Our rope connects lower towards the engine and I’m thinking about adding a tower…
Shaun, I’ve seen you and a couple of other pros like steel do this trick where you’re out in the flats and you do sort of a barrel roll on your back on the water and the board isn’t contacting the water. Is there a name for that? I’d love for you to do a quick tutorial on that because it’s a super flash little trick.
Here ya go Mitch! th-cam.com/video/Ko2NIRU424A/w-d-xo.html
I am just happy jumping Wake to Wake! Nice!
I'm happy jumping wake to wake as well!
Epic skill level, the best video I have seen.
Insane skills haha ! Thanks mate
Thanks G!
I’m the same height as you but I’m like 140 -145 pounds would it be better going a 135 or a 140 board I’m just starting to get into wakeboarding
140. Which board?
I am getting the Hyperlite State 2.0 board. Thanks for responding I appreciate it
You're the man
Hi Shaun! Friendly greetings from Russia. Could you clarify some points about load and release? When I try to do this I get pulled forward by the rope and it’s very hard to stay in control. When I abruptly stop cutting on flats the rope feels like bungee cord, pulls me and I tend to jump from HS to TS edge. I thought that this method used for HS back roll, raley and others... what is the difference between L&R method for back roll and simple wake to wake jump. Can you tell more how to use load and release for wake to wake jumps correctly. Should I stop cutting abruptly or more gentle? should I make the board completely flat or stay on edge a little bit? At what moment should I stop cutting - when I leave the wake or just before that? The last one, when you discuss speed of the boat you mean nautical miles per hour or simple miles like on car speedometer? 21 mi/h = 34 km/h or 39 km/h? And that is the big difference! Which is correct?
Shaun... I really want to have the opportunity to ride with you coaching me some day.
Where are you based for wake classes?
Orlando and OWC is where I coach in town. Check my website www.shaunmurray.com and click lessons until it takes you to my calendar. Working on getting available dates for up coming months.
It’s simple ...crank a turn...flatten off...then..launch!
Now that. is. amazing! Nice Detention quote!
Shaun, love your videos. How fast do you ride?
23mph. You can see some of my other stats in the descriptions of my videos if you're interested.
Txs my friend having fun that what important not the size of the boat.
Hi Shaun. So helpfull! Thanks a lot for sharing your tips! When a trip to switzerland? Come here, all included! Leman lake and sell som wakeboard lessons. See you
Thanks for comments and compliments Jerome! And thanks for the invite. I haven't been to Switzerland yet but maybe someday.
You're welcome, really!
In your detention video you talk about keeping a progressive edge up the wake but this seems to be almost the opposite where you're releasing your edge as you go into the wake. Is that the case and this is basically a technique to just get more air when necessary or am I missing something? I don't see how you can do a progressive edge and release at the same time?
How to get more pop: shred behind a 10,000 pound Cuddy cabin
Yes!!!!
Did you know that when a G23 (6,000 lbs) is loaded up w ballast (2,850) and capacity (2,500) it's well over 10,000 lbs! Pretty crazy.
Wakeboarding is not only a blast to do but very pleasant to watch.
fresh video; great skills
Thanks for watching!
This was insane, super stoked to go out wakeboarding next time !!! Thanks for the video Shaun!!!🤙🏽🤙🏽
Awesome to hear Royce! Thanks for stoppin by!
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Cheers Shaun 👍
Backatcha 👊🏽
Hey Shaun, what's your opinion on fins vs no fins? Does that have any influence on pop or is that just more for switching stances?
how do u absorb those blows to the legs frying that high up?
GREAT vid! Super helpful
what speed is the right speed to get more air
I do not have a wake boat so how do I do that
I want to do this, but my board is running out of water ( droppage )
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When I try to load, my heel separates from the water intermittently. I don't know if I mean it or not. Thank you for answering my question. I am learning with your films and I am from Iran.
@@navidmottaghi3129 sounds like you're sliding out. What board are you riding, boat speed, rope length?
@@Shaun.Murray ronix one blcokout boat board and idk but i can guess about 20 miles per hour and rope length rope 50 feet
@@navidmottaghi3129 I'm not familiar w that board but w that speed it sounds like you are cutting too hard too soon and your edge is slipping out. Start wide, far from the wake, and go very easy, slowly increasing your cut (progressive edge) and when you get to the bottom of the wake, that should be where you are on your hardest cut. Not crazy hard but as you get to the top of the wake, that's where you start to release the power of the cut.
Solid video -- I was with Adam Fields this summer when he did his first backwards start... I believe he mentioned that you were showing him how to do it years ago! We starting go to see Adam for coaching and love that guy. Though, he may be a little busier changing dippers this year!
Adam is a great dude, really good rider and great coach. Glad you linked up w him. The backwards start was the first shot I ever got in wakeboard magazine back in 1995! So the first shot of me in the mag was my rear end!
you make it look easy man!!! that's some level you got!! congrats
Thanks Dan!
@@Shaun.Murray Just out of curiosity, do you happen to give lessons by any chance?
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@@Shaun.Murray got it boss! If I go to Orlando any time soon I'll be booking for sure!!
Can u do this on a Jetski
Elbows in.. 👍🏽 correct form..
As a former electrician. Line and load are very important.. 👍🏽
Great vodka.. I mean video.. 😂 very informative..
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Hi Keaton!
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When I do a HS wake to wake I find when I jump my board goes vertical and it looks pretty awkward any tips to help with that?
That comes from shifting weight to the back foot. Keep your shoulders level to the water which helps keep your weight even over your feet.
So we are not supposed to hold the edge to the top of the wake? I am a bit confused right now..
Me too. Contradicts his "how to get more pop" video he mentions at the beginning... th-cam.com/video/FDi6N8F4yQA/w-d-xo.html at 4:15
great !!
I don’t wake board much but when i do every time I cut in towards the wake I feel like I lose lots of speed when cutting in how do I eliminate the slack
I’m no professional but have been wakeboarding my whole life if you cut out and stall to keep the rope tight you won’t get slack on the way in you can see him do that on all of his big cuts