The most important reason is you aren’t VIP 18 with the troop buff from what I can see based on your number. I'm in that situation right now when I fight in lost canyon. I'm an extreme heavy spender but never spent on VIP points. I'm VIP 17 simply from the bundles I buy. I can beat almost everyone in lost canyon regardless of who we go in there with and I can finish top 5 everytime but the troop bonus is key. The trooo bonus can slightly overcome your spending. Once I'm VIP 18 I honestly doubt I'd rarely lose in lost cayon. I never lose in Sunset cayon in my kingdom ever. It's extremely boring.
Haven’t even watched it yet and I’m still psyched for this. People massively underestimate how much game strategy you can learn in Sunset/Lost. Plus it makes Golden Kingdom fun as hell when you’re good at it
@@OmniarchOfficial I mean, I know I’d watch it 🤷🏻♂️ also when you attack off lane, it’s worked for me to stack the second tank behind strongest tank. That way the DPS marches are the last two hit.
One problem about Golden Kingdom, if your luck is so bad with garbage blessings and no healing hospital, you are screwed and have to start over even if your lineup is good 🤡
@@cmlcml415 true... But i always kill all the enemy marches even after i have killed the guardian chief. You get more blessings from that. I get to floor 20 every 1st try
My Heraculis is almost maxed and he is doing great in canyon paired with Trajan. When I get the extra 30% normal attack reduction expertise to go along with Trajan their skills line-up perfect in Cayon. Trajan spreads his 5 target AOE around very nicely and quick. I don't see alot of people doing it yet at all because he's a Garrison and a MGE commander and hard to get plus he's a city defense commander and not a fort and flag type of commander. But I personally know he's very versatile in canyon, city defense and the open field. You can pair him with Sargon and he spreads Sargon's Awwed effect around and their shelds stack up which triggers Heraculis 4th skill more.
My main strat is out best def gear on rich/cons and attack the offline with dps commanders (nev/sal,guan/scip,art/tom,nebu/ysg. I also sometimes use the strat by redline with two tanks attacking the main body and then 3 dps marches on the off lane.
hi: I do believe that one whole area not covered here was that some ppls use farms to boost the main. I hear that is worth quite a bit of placement. But, the rest was great. I didn't know about the off lane. I might try AT for the off lane : )
I'm an expert on Canyon in my honest opinion and this is based on the DM's I get from other players in lost canyon. I'm not the best defense cayon player and this is simply because I'm not VIP 18. I'm 17 currently and the troop buff definitely matters. But the secret key to cayon is Ramesses II. I take down so many powerful players simply because most basic players love to use Richard/ Constantine or Trajan / Constantine. Ramesses destroys these combos to pieces. Alot of people don't invest in him but I've max him long ago and his expertise has a 2 second heal stopper. It's not guaranteed but you have to know how to time it. May need a seige anchor at times or put the march back further or put Ramesses as primary or secondary depending on what your opponent is doing. This will not work as a defensive strategy at all but you will win 97% of your attack battles and you will embarrass players with much better gear and cayon power rankings. I beat a 3 million power guy consistently and I was 2.7 million VIP 17. The guy couldn't figure out I was neutralizing his Constantine's heal
Hello, I have a question: do you think pairing Joan Prime with Pelagius in KVK 3 since I still don't have Nevski and I would like to save univarsals could work well? I think Pela would be a good rage engine, giving more stats to Joan (15% attack and defence), and healing. What do you think about it?
For me, Richard Constantine (tank), Trajan Mulan (support + tank), Guan Scipio, Boudica Zhuge, Nevsky Joan (3 DPS)😋 btw glad you put Hera so high on the list, he is just so tanky in canyon thanks to his expertise skill (-30% normal attack damage reduction!!) and can still do a bit of damage from his aoe skill
I use Trajan Mulan and it is very solid. I think I'm about to start a new trend that benches Mulan for good in Canyon and that's pairing Trajan and Heraculis. I will have 3 defensive circle AOE's Zhuge/ YSG and let Trajan and Heraculis tank in the front and support but still do circle AOE to help my other 3 marches win their trades. Heraculis is actually allowing me to bench Nevsky in favor of XY / Joan. I know that march os squishy but to be honest it's so much AOE flying around and XY rage is so fast the 3 circle AOE's is eating up back rows to the point they aren’t getting a break and they are getting in yellow so fast. Mulan isn't doing any damage and lining my Trajan and Heraculis right over Trajan/ Mulan is allowing that march to stay alive longer and keep the AOE pressure on all four marches. I love it when they line the tank march close to the other 4 marches because all 5 targets get hit the entire fight
Just a personal advise man when you attack you can stack your tabks meaning guan then back to him scipi and then front down will be liang where you can benifit of his debuff and huge aoe damage and see how it will do 😇
I got a question... If I'm not wrong then you are using a Mac to play ROK right? If you do then do you mind helping me out about something? When I open ROK and full screen it, the game screen doesn't fit the Mac screen. So there was 2 black line on the left and right side of my screen. If you know how ot fix this then please leave a comment below, I will appreciate it!
I love this mode ever since I focused archers, since even before kvk 1 not even as a mega whale as I have been under vip 14 this whole time my Thut/ysg march in there carries me so hard to always be top 10 (was top 5 in kvk1) even after migrators came over and kvk 2 ending. Though with it ending soc will enter it so I doubt I stand a chance against X-season migrators but still, need advice like this to keep up :D
Hi Omniarch. I am packing stuff like a mad man. Have move ahead of me tomorrow. Have been packing everything except TV and some items that I still need.Thx for this video. I have a kvk1 going on rn and I am waiting kvk2 season to begin so I can migrate my 59m power main there. Hospital is full so that I save couple passports. In there i bet I'll be in top 5 in my kingdom with the reason that main has every epic maxed and good legendaries that are open for kvk2. Not to mention equipment. It's a shame I don't have computer or extra tablet for making 3 or 4 accounts in 1 kingdom. In 1075 kd I have 25m power farm so I am thinking do I really migrate my kvk1 acc some place else. However my farm is lvl25 too but has so bad commander roster because I've it as farm to start with. And I've spend over 150Euros on my kvk1 acc. And it is ch23 and has that bundle bought that will give 40k gems at ch25 also at 25 I get even more gems from some other thing that game has. 4k gems if memory serves right. Also this way I get 2 kvk's without that stupid crystal tech. And gives me time to save gh's and finish my Scipio, Nevsky, Joan. And my Boudica that is only 5111. I will get Zhuge Liang to pair Boudica. Then I have Alex/Martel or some other commander to use in kvk2. Since Guan is usable only at kvk3 when we get to use SOC commander's P.S I do have 5131 Tomy, 5111 Artemisia ,5511 William , 5111 Cyrus. Witch of.these commander's I should work on. I feel like Artemisia, William are the ones. And maybe I either work on my arty and wait new archers for her, or finish my Ramses. I don't have Nebu, Henry or other MGE commander's from SOC season.
Make a video about how to win in chest event, forgot the name of the event, Where you can set troops and there's 5 level to receive a golden box for equipment. Its hard and i know everyone here wants to get some tips. Thank you in advance
Hello omni this not related to the video but this might be a interesting topic, it is the slow effect and how effective it is I see 1 video on youtube but its kinda incomplete to me hope you can make in depth guide about slowing marches and how effective it is. Moreover we have 20% slow armament every active skill that we can buy in kvk shop( enmeshed) so the best march to slow I think will be much cheaper saladin 5111? haha aethelflaed or richard exp.
карл харальд надо ставить вниз: т.к. вражеский марш будет доставать основную 4 и при победе у него не пропадёт ярость надо: основную 4 поставить вврех а 5 марш пустить в низ на 2 линию(+1к осадных)
I'm not sure about that anymore. But I get why you say this. Me personally I can crack him extremely easy with Ramsey. This is why I stay in the top 10 in lost Canyon. No one invests in him but I max him 2 years ago and he will fuck up Richard/ Constantine or Trajan / Constantine
You will never hit 5 targets with Memehd in Canyon. You'd be lucky to hit 2. His cone is too small. I'm not sure who is better out of him and Honda in canyon because that new relic could have helped out a bit. Honda's half circle if lined up right can hit more targets. I just hope they can get a better infantry commander so I can stop using Honda and Memehd. I hope one day they can something about Honda's rage requirement so that I can use him as a lead with that 2500 3 target nuke
It’s just 1 siege unit to slow the march down so it lines up better. Perhaps I could elaborate on that in a future video but this was already so long lol
This has to be the best canyon team. My kingdom can't stop it at all. The fights lare over in less than 40 seconds. Trajan/ Heraculis Guan / Scipio XY / Joan Zhuge/ YSG Sargon / Honda This shit is sick and disgusting. Try it out
On minute 33 and i cant believe how many commanders you've put into s+. Arty, nebu, honda, william, xy simply dont belong in the elite canyon lineups. Theyre decent and can do a job but they aint the best of the best. Richard should be s+. There is not a tankier march than richard/constantine. And no Mulan in S+? (I retract this if you add her later)
You can only use 10 commanders.. this tier list is useless since you aren’t breaking down which commanders to use. These commanders are the ones people are deciding between this didn’t help who to pick at all
Not everybody has all the commanders in the S+ you silly goose hahahahah how can I tell you exactly who to use if I don't know how many commanders you have? Please think about your comment for 5 seconds before posting it next time
@@OmniarchOfficial well I appreciate the response. I did give my comment some thought m. My conclusion was at least for me personally I like to know approx what the meta is so I know how close I am and we’re I stand. I am aware most people don’t have all the best commanders but just as an example having Art and Zhuge in the same tier seems a bit off. I’n a game mode that is not meant to run 2 archer marches having the very arguable third best archer commander in S+!seems to defeat the purpose. This is just a singular example. I would like to think S+ would be reserved for absolute best options and each lower tier with different levels of replacements for those who don’t have all the commanders.
Who are YOUR favorite commanders for Canyon? 🤔
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The most important reason is you aren’t VIP 18 with the troop buff from what I can see based on your number. I'm in that situation right now when I fight in lost canyon. I'm an extreme heavy spender but never spent on VIP points. I'm VIP 17 simply from the bundles I buy. I can beat almost everyone in lost canyon regardless of who we go in there with and I can finish top 5 everytime but the troop bonus is key. The trooo bonus can slightly overcome your spending. Once I'm VIP 18 I honestly doubt I'd rarely lose in lost cayon. I never lose in Sunset cayon in my kingdom ever. It's extremely boring.
Haven’t even watched it yet and I’m still psyched for this. People massively underestimate how much game strategy you can learn in Sunset/Lost. Plus it makes Golden Kingdom fun as hell when you’re good at it
Absolutely, maybe I should make an updated guide for golden kingdom too… it’s been a while hahahaha
@@OmniarchOfficial I mean, I know I’d watch it 🤷🏻♂️ also when you attack off lane, it’s worked for me to stack the second tank behind strongest tank. That way the DPS marches are the last two hit.
One problem about Golden Kingdom, if your luck is so bad with garbage blessings and no healing hospital, you are screwed and have to start over even if your lineup is good 🤡
@@cmlcml415 true... But i always kill all the enemy marches even after i have killed the guardian chief. You get more blessings from that. I get to floor 20 every 1st try
@@Noahac2 then you are lucky all the time, I have been to that one extremely unlucky case I had to start all over 🙃
My Heraculis is almost maxed and he is doing great in canyon paired with Trajan. When I get the extra 30% normal attack reduction expertise to go along with Trajan their skills line-up perfect in Cayon. Trajan spreads his 5 target AOE around very nicely and quick. I don't see alot of people doing it yet at all because he's a Garrison and a MGE commander and hard to get plus he's a city defense commander and not a fort and flag type of commander. But I personally know he's very versatile in canyon, city defense and the open field. You can pair him with Sargon and he spreads Sargon's Awwed effect around and their shelds stack up which triggers Heraculis 4th skill more.
im in pre kvk1 and with sunset canyon ive already 920keys opened its such a good way to grow if u can stay in top5
That’s pretty true
Sad part is after KvK 2 SSC loses a ton of value.
Trajan Heraculis is a very Tanky and damage causing pair on the front row. Their skills line up perfectly for that game mode
damn i genuinely needed this. also love the long for videos !
Thank you! 😁 glad I could deliver :)
My main strat is out best def gear on rich/cons and attack the offline with dps commanders (nev/sal,guan/scip,art/tom,nebu/ysg. I also sometimes use the strat by redline with two tanks attacking the main body and then 3 dps marches on the off lane.
hi: I do believe that one whole area not covered here was that some ppls use farms to boost the main. I hear that is worth quite a bit of placement. But, the rest was great. I didn't know about the off lane. I might try AT for the off lane : )
Yeah lots of boosting as well unfortunately. Thanks for the kind words :) Good luck in canyon!
Bundle of thnx to make this video in respose , really appreciate the effort ... love it !
we need an upated tierlist of female commanders
Was thinking about doing this tbh...
Blud's secretly simping comms
Women☕
Give me them secrets!!!, great vid btw
Thanks! :)
I'm an expert on Canyon in my honest opinion and this is based on the DM's I get from other players in lost canyon. I'm not the best defense cayon player and this is simply because I'm not VIP 18. I'm 17 currently and the troop buff definitely matters. But the secret key to cayon is Ramesses II. I take down so many powerful players simply because most basic players love to use Richard/ Constantine or Trajan / Constantine. Ramesses destroys these combos to pieces. Alot of people don't invest in him but I've max him long ago and his expertise has a 2 second heal stopper. It's not guaranteed but you have to know how to time it. May need a seige anchor at times or put the march back further or put Ramesses as primary or secondary depending on what your opponent is doing. This will not work as a defensive strategy at all but you will win 97% of your attack battles and you will embarrass players with much better gear and cayon power rankings. I beat a 3 million power guy consistently and I was 2.7 million VIP 17. The guy couldn't figure out I was neutralizing his Constantine's heal
Have you tried using Tomy? Replaced Ramesses with her because she’s more versatile
Nice fire vid btw🔥
Thank you! 😁
Hello, I have a question: do you think pairing Joan Prime with Pelagius in KVK 3 since I still don't have Nevski and I would like to save univarsals could work well? I think Pela would be a good rage engine, giving more stats to Joan (15% attack and defence), and healing. What do you think about it?
I dont love Pelagius, I'd look at alternatives honestly :( Baibars would be better even
@@OmniarchOfficial Ok, seems legit. Great content!
For me, Richard Constantine (tank), Trajan Mulan (support + tank), Guan Scipio, Boudica Zhuge, Nevsky Joan (3 DPS)😋
btw glad you put Hera so high on the list, he is just so tanky in canyon thanks to his expertise skill (-30% normal attack damage reduction!!) and can still do a bit of damage from his aoe skill
That's a great lineup! I really want trajan... but yes, Hera is great!
I use Trajan Mulan and it is very solid. I think I'm about to start a new trend that benches Mulan for good in Canyon and that's pairing Trajan and Heraculis. I will have 3 defensive circle AOE's Zhuge/ YSG and let Trajan and Heraculis tank in the front and support but still do circle AOE to help my other 3 marches win their trades. Heraculis is actually allowing me to bench Nevsky in favor of XY / Joan. I know that march os squishy but to be honest it's so much AOE flying around and XY rage is so fast the 3 circle AOE's is eating up back rows to the point they aren’t getting a break and they are getting in yellow so fast. Mulan isn't doing any damage and lining my Trajan and Heraculis right over Trajan/ Mulan is allowing that march to stay alive longer and keep the AOE pressure on all four marches. I love it when they line the tank march close to the other 4 marches because all 5 targets get hit the entire fight
I'm waiting for this
Glad to finally deliver!
Just a personal advise man when you attack you can stack your tabks meaning guan then back to him scipi and then front down will be liang where you can benifit of his debuff and huge aoe damage and see how it will do 😇
I got a question... If I'm not wrong then you are using a Mac to play ROK right? If you do then do you mind helping me out about something? When I open ROK and full screen it, the game screen doesn't fit the Mac screen. So there was 2 black line on the left and right side of my screen. If you know how ot fix this then please leave a comment below, I will appreciate it!
A year or so later and the pronunciation of imhotep still kills me 😂😂
I love this mode ever since I focused archers, since even before kvk 1 not even as a mega whale as I have been under vip 14 this whole time my Thut/ysg march in there carries me so hard to always be top 10 (was top 5 in kvk1) even after migrators came over and kvk 2 ending. Though with it ending soc will enter it so I doubt I stand a chance against X-season migrators but still, need advice like this to keep up :D
not worth it? yes it is. its a flex to dominate canyon 😎
Just double checking, what does the word "succumb" mean?
Hi Omniarch. I am packing stuff like a mad man. Have move ahead of me tomorrow. Have been packing everything except TV and some items that I still need.Thx for this video. I have a kvk1 going on rn and I am waiting kvk2 season to begin so I can migrate my 59m power main there. Hospital is full so that I save couple passports. In there i bet I'll be in top 5 in my kingdom with the reason that main has every epic maxed and good legendaries that are open for kvk2. Not to mention equipment. It's a shame I don't have computer or extra tablet for making 3 or 4 accounts in 1 kingdom.
In 1075 kd I have 25m power farm so I am thinking do I really migrate my kvk1 acc some place else. However my farm is lvl25 too but has so bad commander roster because I've it as farm to start with. And I've spend over 150Euros on my kvk1 acc.
And it is ch23 and has that bundle bought that will give 40k gems at ch25 also at 25 I get even more gems from some other thing that game has. 4k gems if memory serves right.
Also this way I get 2 kvk's without that stupid crystal tech. And gives me time to save gh's and finish my Scipio, Nevsky, Joan. And my Boudica that is only 5111.
I will get Zhuge Liang to pair Boudica. Then I have Alex/Martel or some other commander to use in kvk2. Since Guan is usable only at kvk3 when we get to use SOC commander's
P.S I do have 5131 Tomy, 5111 Artemisia ,5511 William , 5111 Cyrus. Witch of.these commander's I should work on. I feel like Artemisia, William are the ones. And maybe I either work on my arty and wait new archers for her, or finish my Ramses. I don't have Nebu, Henry or other MGE commander's from SOC season.
Make a video about how to win in chest event, forgot the name of the event,
Where you can set troops and there's 5 level to receive a golden box for equipment.
Its hard and i know everyone here wants to get some tips.
Thank you in advance
Golden kingdom! Yes, many of the tips here can apply there as well but perhaps I should update my guide on that too
Hello omni this not related to the video but this might be a interesting topic, it is the slow effect and how effective it is I see 1 video on youtube but its kinda incomplete to me hope you can make in depth guide about slowing marches and how effective it is. Moreover we have 20% slow armament every active skill that we can buy in kvk shop( enmeshed) so the best march to slow I think will be much cheaper saladin 5111? haha aethelflaed or richard exp.
does your gear carry into this?
For Season 2, can you give me some good pairings for canyon?
I don't have any of the s2 commanders.
Hehe I'm your first match-up 😅
Well done!
Is there a way I can send you my commanders, and my current lineup, and get some feedback?
OMNIARCH YOU FOUGHT MY OLD KINGDOM 2372 IN WE WON KVK VID 6 MONTHS AGO
Also very helpful vid as a low spender
Does this work for the golden kingdom
Not really, you'd more likely want to put at least 1 army in every lane to counter what the enemy is doing
Master of canyon 💪🏻✨
I’m early and finally I can stop getting clapped in sunset canyon 😂
Good luck! And thank you :)
карл харальд надо ставить вниз: т.к. вражеский марш будет доставать основную 4 и при победе у него не пропадёт ярость
надо: основную 4 поставить вврех а 5 марш пустить в низ на 2 линию(+1к осадных)
For Canyon which is better? Scipio/CM or Scipio/Mehmed?
Pakal is situational good in Cayon. He is very tanky
No video on your current kvk?
How do you get more commanders???
Tavern chests and the wheel of fortune mostly!
Hey bro. Soc commanders kvk 3 ?
do relics work in this game mode ?
Why you setup 1 siege for Guan/Cons ?
Thanks
The best tank pair is Richard and Constantine
I'm late and already lost 3 months,but thanks hahaha
Can Mulan 5511 replace expertised epic joan of arc ?
Unfortunately no :(
@@OmniarchOfficial that's what I thought so, thanks ! :)
Now you need to decide on one S++ commander.
its constantine
The best Tank is Richard Constantine
Constantine is the single best canyon commander and it's not close.
I'm not sure about that anymore. But I get why you say this. Me personally I can crack him extremely easy with Ramsey. This is why I stay in the top 10 in lost Canyon. No one invests in him but I max him 2 years ago and he will fuck up Richard/ Constantine or Trajan / Constantine
If you cut that heal off Constantine is trash. I aggravate the hell out of VIP 18 players with Ramesses
You will never hit 5 targets with Memehd in Canyon. You'd be lucky to hit 2. His cone is too small. I'm not sure who is better out of him and Honda in canyon because that new relic could have helped out a bit. Honda's half circle if lined up right can hit more targets. I just hope they can get a better infantry commander so I can stop using Honda and Memehd. I hope one day they can something about Honda's rage requirement so that I can use him as a lead with that 2500 3 target nuke
I normal summon charles martel ysg and set mehmed aethfeld your turn
You calling things in rok trash is the best thing on rok TY🤣
I do my best :)
@@OmniarchOfficial Lillith need to sponsor you👀
Why did you put siege in your march?
It’s just 1 siege unit to slow the march down so it lines up better. Perhaps I could elaborate on that in a future video but this was already so long lol
This has to be the best canyon team. My kingdom can't stop it at all. The fights lare over in less than 40 seconds.
Trajan/ Heraculis
Guan / Scipio
XY / Joan
Zhuge/ YSG
Sargon / Honda
This shit is sick and disgusting. Try it out
Now top 50 only for Vip18 games😢😂😂
Pretty much :(
Cheers, love coke zero
definitely the best diet soda!
This still didn't work for me. Useless formation. I am so fed up being constantly beaten up in sunset canyon by weaker players
hey
Hey!
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thanks ;)
Why do ppl add in siege?
Hi can you give me account in rise of kingdoms please because my friends want give me block because I am noob
On minute 33 and i cant believe how many commanders you've put into s+.
Arty, nebu, honda, william, xy simply dont belong in the elite canyon lineups. Theyre decent and can do a job but they aint the best of the best.
Richard should be s+. There is not a tankier march than richard/constantine.
And no Mulan in S+? (I retract this if you add her later)
😀
You can only use 10 commanders.. this tier list is useless since you aren’t breaking down which commanders to use. These commanders are the ones people are deciding between this didn’t help who to pick at all
Not everybody has all the commanders in the S+ you silly goose hahahahah how can I tell you exactly who to use if I don't know how many commanders you have? Please think about your comment for 5 seconds before posting it next time
@@OmniarchOfficial well I appreciate the response. I did give my comment some thought m. My conclusion was at least for me personally I like to know approx what the meta is so I know how close I am and we’re I stand. I am aware most people don’t have all the best commanders but just as an example having Art and Zhuge in the same tier seems a bit off. I’n a game mode that is not meant to run 2 archer marches having the very arguable third best archer commander in S+!seems to defeat the purpose. This is just a singular example. I would like to think S+ would be reserved for absolute best options and each lower tier with different levels of replacements for those who don’t have all the commanders.
sorry for the dislike, is just because the video was almost a hour.. feel like watching a movie :/