I do a bit of long distance surfcasting with long rods and conventional open-face reels. When I'm tuning my reels, several factors come into play: magnetic brake setting, number and size of centrifugal brake blocks, viscosity of the oil (if any) in the bearings, type of bearings (steel vs. ceramic), weight of spool (effects inertia), amount of line on spool (effects how fast the spool needs to rotate to cast off line). I assume that for a bait caster to cast further than another, it comes down to one or more of these factors well.
So many fishing channels these days that I never sub anymore. You seem like a good dude with a non-pretentious channel. Subbed and will share w friends.
@@bruce3579 If you have the money I would get the revo. I got the silver max combo as my first and loved it. Now I’m looking at getting another rod because if you like it you will want more rods eventually. Revo will be smoother.
@@bruce3579 I've never had a Max Pro. If you want to buy something that will last, I would look for an aluminum frame and a carbon fiber drag system. Just my opinion.
They are both good reels. But it should be noted that they have different braking. The SLX has internal adjustment Centrifugal brakes. The Revo X has Magnetic brakes. I prefer centrifugal as it works right away in the beginning of your cast.
I had an Slx and it broke after 1 month so I got a new one and that broke shortly after I got it to I just got a revo x and haven’t hade time to try it out
Great video, You had genuine quality content and unbiased opinions. You are the first person I have ever had the urge to comment on their vid and for that I'm subscribing. Keep up the good work.👍
Shimano SLX. I had the Revo S and STX as well and on both the side plates kept popping off. Super annoying. Never had a hint of trouble out of my SLX. But the correct answer is Daiwa Fuego or Tatula 100HS if you can afford $160.
Well seeing how ur last cast (senko) u threw the slx back further behide the line. N u threw the revo was on the line soooooo well based on video, and did you set the brakes/drag etc the same
Intresting, thought. How would you prove the magnetic part and tensioner were exactly the same if you we're trying to be perfectly the same adjustment on the reel's. hard to say. Revo X is what I just bought and according to this I'd get beat by 4ft 8 inches .
Thank you, I was actually looking at these two reels.... great vid and I thought the Revo would have been better than the SLX, thanks for confirming! 👍👌
Which one would you recommend? I want to get a good reel that will last a long time. I have an Abu Garcia Black Max but it gets lots of scratches and worn off paint. Which reel is smoother?
These two are a HUGE step up from the black max. I would recommend visiting your local tackle shop and asking to see both and make the decision yourself. Whatever you have the most confidence in!
@@cameronphipps6919 this is truth. I was set on an slx but when I got to the store the slx and lews speed felt cheap. I dislike how the slx was adjusted. That got me looking at the revo x and diawa fuego. The fuego is nice too, but needing a tool to remove the side plate was a no go. There is a large choice at the 100 dollar price range. All will probably fo you well for at least a couple years to come.
At nearly every price point comparison abu typically always look better on paper. Eight bearings to three, eighteen pound drag to eleven. Even going up to the next price point Abu looks better. At first I don't think this matters but I think it pays off over time. abu will run better dirty, and last longer before maintenance.
in you opinion, what line convination cast better in a baitcaster, mono (light or heavy) or braid (light or heavy) by light mono/fluoro i mean 10# and for heavy 15/17# and for braid light would be 15 nad heavy 30 or more pounds..
Great video! new to bait casting myself been fishing with the Abu Garcia Black Max for 3 months now caught some fish on it I can cast now pretty much without bird nesting, looking to step up I think so that I have two bait casters one for myself and then one for whoever comes along for the ride. the Black Max is a pretty incredible setup for the money it's a pretty incredible setup. I like the Abu Garcia stuff really enjoy the action in the rod the combo that it came with, nice and stiff super responsive and handles heavier lures with ease but the tip guide, it's terrible! it roughs up my line pretty well so with my new reel I'm going to be looking at getting a nicer rod as well since you work for one of the largest sporting goods chains your advice will be greatly appreciated I thank you in advance!
If you really like Abu products, the Stx’s have really good reviews. My personal preference would be to go to a Curado. Would be a nice upgrade from the X. Hope this helps, glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi there , im planning to buy a reel exclusively for saltwater use and did a bit research on saltwater reels . One of the name that came up is abu garcia revo4x inshore which is within my budget , the price is 165 usd in india. And Curado K301 which is 225 USD was suggested by few , but im not sure whether its a saltwater reel or not. Kindly do opine. In your opinion hows the revo 4x ( inshore is same as revo4x except corrosion resistant ) ? Also while compared to curado K ?
I have personally never used either for the salt yet. The Revo inshore is actually meant for saltwater, and most Shimanos do well in the salt as well. I’m not 100% sure if all curados are sealed or not. No matter what reel you go with, always rinse with freshwater after each trip, that helps big time with any internal parts that possibly could’ve been exposed to salt. Hope this help, for more info I’d check their websites and contact the companies themselves! 🤟🏽
I'll never buy another Abu reel. Bought a $200 Revo4 STX and straight out of the box it was garbage. Took it apart and the internals were gnarled to sh*t. I sent it back to them and they repaired it, but it still wont function properly. First and last reel I'll ever buy from them.
@@humbugvideos I hadnt either. Maybe its just a lemon. The machining was just terrible. Edges were jagged, you could hear/feel grinding on the retrieve (in fact you still can, after they "fixed" it). Never had a Shimano or Lew's let me down. I figure I'll just stick with them.
@@humbugvideos there is non any video on drag power of these baitcasting reel on TH-cam as these brand say about drag weight, so kindly make soon which company truly give drag weight as on its description. If possible just do on Abu Garcia promax3 casting reel as well.
@@humbugvideos what about casting super light lures like Googan plopper and whacky rigs I'm very very new to baitcasting reels, I been a spinning real man all my life until late last super.. thank you for you honesty info..
@@luckylucky9006 For really light stuff as a beginner I would still use your spinning rod. Use the baitcaster for the heavier stuff until your used to it.
Clearly the Garcia is the better choice just based on the amout of bearings... the reels casted the same because he set the brakes and anti backlash the same for his casting style.. redo vid no brake or anti backlash
Just because a reel has more bearings doesn't make it a better reel. I see too many people at my work try to base their purchase solely off which reel has more bearing. Its not about which one has more, its about how well they use them. The 13 fishing concept Z is a perfect example of this. Like I said in the video, both reels were tuned before taking test results in order to get the maximum distance without backlash. If you still disagree, I'd love to see a video of you beating my cast! Thanks for the feedback
@@humbugvideos Exactly, I'm not too sure why many new buyers today believe that more bearings = better reel. If you go on amazon right now, many companies are selling like $50 baitcasters with 18+1 bearings or something like that, and you can tell they are not good based on the reviews lol. Even the shimanos without the micro module gears (the feature that makes them _extra_ smooth) are quite comfortable to reel and pretty smooth compared to other reels on the market.
Hey there! Pairing one of these with an Abu Garcia Vendetta or Veritas rod would be a great option. I’ve used both and they r great. 7’ medium heavy or medium is the ticket for all around applications. Hope this helps👍🏽
I recently got the revo x and have paired it up with a diawa arid x mh fast action 7' and a shimano sellus mh 7'. It looks better on the shimano (the electric blue looks great), but I prefer the daiwa arid.
Remember the amount of line can dictate how far the cast is. If the revo has more line say 145 yards it won’t cast as far as say 100 yards would. That could be a variable is to make sure both reels have the same amount of line on.
I still think the only thing the Revo x does that the slx can't do is provide more line and a tad higher drag which really doesn't mean anything. The quality of the drag on the Shimano is better, it casts further in almost every category, the braking system is extremely well rounded. The slx is also made much better. The slx will last longer. To each his own. The x has also been advertised @ $39.99.
No, fact. The Slx is higher quality, tighter tolerances, it's a better reel by a mile in every way. Sorry you got your feeling hurt, but that's how you know it's the truth... The truth don't GAF about your feelings. 😁
@@lmsmbassaddict7378 Take it easy, Ben Shapiro. Nobody's feelings are hurt. Two things can coexist, you know. I can mention that you have no proof for most of those claims while also being able to handle disagreement. Typical troll though. Facts get questioned, replies with "no, facts." Laughable dude. Where's the proof?
Everyone has different casts. Revo X is wayyyy smoother in terms of casting and reeling. 8 ball bearings! For the same price as the SLX 4 bearings. And the Revo X actually has the ability to cast farther as well...Shimano is overrated!
We can agree to disagree on this one, however I advise you to not determine a reel solely based on its ball bearing count. 13 Fishing has made a reel that has NONE of them and its amazing. They are both excellent reels for $100 and have their purposes. Thanks for watching Kyle!
I have both of these reels and my favorite is easily which ever one I'm using at that moment. Both are fantastic.
I do a bit of long distance surfcasting with long rods and conventional open-face reels. When I'm tuning my reels, several factors come into play: magnetic brake setting, number and size of centrifugal brake blocks, viscosity of the oil (if any) in the bearings, type of bearings (steel vs. ceramic), weight of spool (effects inertia), amount of line on spool (effects how fast the spool needs to rotate to cast off line). I assume that for a bait caster to cast further than another, it comes down to one or more of these factors well.
I have all 3 gear ratios now in the Revo X. Very solid reels.
So many fishing channels these days that I never sub anymore. You seem like a good dude with a non-pretentious channel. Subbed and will share w friends.
Jim McGuire Hey sorry for the late reply, thanks so much! You won’t be disappointed!
I have both and I prefer the REVO. The SLX is a great reel but I like the way the REVO feels in my hand and how smooth it is.
It’s all preference, so more power to you!
*These reels are very different*
*Slx*
smaller frame
lighter
smaller spool
internal centrifugal brakes
low drag pressure
*Revo*
larger frame
heavier
larger spool
external magnetic brakes
high drag pressure
*Both are proven brand names. Happy shopping!*
Revo vs max pro your thoughts? I'm new looking for something good to start with.
@@bruce3579 If you have the money I would get the revo. I got the silver max combo as my first and loved it. Now I’m looking at getting another rod because if you like it you will want more rods eventually. Revo will be smoother.
@@bruce3579 I've never had a Max Pro. If you want to buy something that will last, I would look for an aluminum frame and a carbon fiber drag system. Just my opinion.
They are both good reels. But it should be noted that they have different braking. The SLX has internal adjustment Centrifugal brakes. The Revo X has Magnetic brakes. I prefer centrifugal as it works right away in the beginning of your cast.
Thanks for the input, this was very informative. The Shimano is my favorite as well👍🏽
I had an Slx and it broke after 1 month so I got a new one and that broke shortly after I got it to I just got a revo x and haven’t hade time to try it out
Weird…I hope the Revo works out better for u!👍🏽
Great video, You had genuine quality content and unbiased opinions. You are the first person I have ever had the urge to comment on their vid and for that I'm subscribing. Keep up the good work.👍
AceJelly07 Thanks man! I’m just plugging along until I make it big, glad u enjoyed!
Shimano SLX. I had the Revo S and STX as well and on both the side plates kept popping off. Super annoying. Never had a hint of trouble out of my SLX. But the correct answer is Daiwa Fuego or Tatula 100HS if you can afford $160.
Weird, I haven’t heard about that happening yet on an Abu. I have casted a Tatula once or twice and I like the feel. Thanks for watching!🤟🏽
@@humbugvideos Definitely should compare these with the Fuego. $100 reel, essentially a Tatula without the t-wing.
@@lukediepfishing haven’t done any yet with the Diawa. That would be a good concept!
Well seeing how ur last cast (senko) u threw the slx back further behide the line. N u threw the revo was on the line soooooo well based on video, and did you set the brakes/drag etc the same
Intresting, thought.
How would you prove the magnetic part and tensioner were exactly the same if you we're trying to be perfectly the same adjustment on the reel's. hard to say. Revo X is what I just bought and according to this I'd get beat by 4ft 8 inches .
My personal opinion abue garcia is the best reels for the money
Thank you, I was actually looking at these two reels.... great vid and I thought the Revo would have been better than the SLX, thanks for confirming! 👍👌
I had no idea 100 $ was low budget 🤯
That was what I thought.
It’s normal budget
It's basically impossible to find a properly working baitcaster reel for under 100$ so yes, it's very low budget.
Which one would you recommend? I want to get a good reel that will last a long time. I have an Abu Garcia Black Max but it gets lots of scratches and worn off paint. Which reel is smoother?
These two are a HUGE step up from the black max. I would recommend visiting your local tackle shop and asking to see both and make the decision yourself. Whatever you have the most confidence in!
Buy the revo x the Slx reels feel really cheap if you mess with any demos and if you like flipping it has a lot heavier drag than the slx
@@cameronphipps6919 this is truth. I was set on an slx but when I got to the store the slx and lews speed felt cheap. I dislike how the slx was adjusted. That got me looking at the revo x and diawa fuego. The fuego is nice too, but needing a tool to remove the side plate was a no go.
There is a large choice at the 100 dollar price range. All will probably fo you well for at least a couple years to come.
shimano is best
@@kevingonfishing6023 slx 4 bearings....... Centrifugal drag hmmmmmmmmm there might be better for the money?
At nearly every price point comparison abu typically always look better on paper. Eight bearings to three, eighteen pound drag to eleven. Even going up to the next price point Abu looks better. At first I don't think this matters but I think it pays off over time. abu will run better dirty, and last longer before maintenance.
Good point, I'm certainly an advocate of "a culmination of all the small things make BIG a difference"
Slx does slightly better with lighter lures it seems
Which one do you think is better overall
I love my shimano!
in you opinion, what line convination cast better in a baitcaster, mono (light or heavy) or braid (light or heavy) by light mono/fluoro i mean 10# and for heavy 15/17# and for braid light would be 15 nad heavy 30 or more pounds..
Gabriel Duarte I always like braid in terms of cast ability, but it all depends on the situation!
Can you use your employee discount and buy me that Revo X (left handed) and mail it to me?
I'd still choose the revo over the slx every day!
Great video!
new to bait casting myself been fishing with the Abu Garcia Black Max for 3 months now caught some fish on it I can cast now pretty much without bird nesting, looking to step up I think so that I have two bait casters one for myself and then one for whoever comes along for the ride. the Black Max is a pretty incredible setup for the money it's a pretty incredible setup. I like the Abu Garcia stuff really enjoy the action in the rod the combo that it came with, nice and stiff super responsive and handles heavier lures with ease but the tip guide, it's terrible! it roughs up my line pretty well so with my new reel I'm going to be looking at getting a nicer rod as well since you work for one of the largest sporting goods chains your advice will be greatly appreciated I thank you in advance!
If you really like Abu products, the Stx’s have really good reviews. My personal preference would be to go to a Curado. Would be a nice upgrade from the X. Hope this helps, glad you enjoyed the video!
@@humbugvideos thanks
Hi there , im planning to buy a reel exclusively for saltwater use and did a bit research on saltwater reels . One of the name that came up is abu garcia revo4x inshore which is within my budget , the price is 165 usd in india. And Curado K301 which is 225 USD was suggested by few , but im not sure whether its a saltwater reel or not. Kindly do opine. In your opinion hows the revo 4x ( inshore is same as revo4x except corrosion resistant ) ? Also while compared to curado K ?
I have personally never used either for the salt yet. The Revo inshore is actually meant for saltwater, and most Shimanos do well in the salt as well. I’m not 100% sure if all curados are sealed or not. No matter what reel you go with, always rinse with freshwater after each trip, that helps big time with any internal parts that possibly could’ve been exposed to salt. Hope this help, for more info I’d check their websites and contact the companies themselves! 🤟🏽
@@humbugvideos thanx a lot for your reply. Appreciated .
@@chemmutk1 No problem, good luck on your findings!
Great video! Which one you think would be better for salt conditions?
Not sure if either are sealed well for salt, I would do some research on that first before your make your purchase!
I'll never buy another Abu reel. Bought a $200 Revo4 STX and straight out of the box it was garbage. Took it apart and the internals were gnarled to sh*t. I sent it back to them and they repaired it, but it still wont function properly. First and last reel I'll ever buy from them.
Dang, I've never heard of that happening before! I don't currently own any Abu Garcia products, but Shimanos never let me down.
@@humbugvideos I hadnt either. Maybe its just a lemon. The machining was just terrible. Edges were jagged, you could hear/feel grinding on the retrieve (in fact you still can, after they "fixed" it). Never had a Shimano or Lew's let me down. I figure I'll just stick with them.
Another new sub here bro. This was actually what I narrowed my options to.
Great video man, ur channel has helped me a lot
I prefer revo for heavy game,slx for medium/light game...or maybe slx can use for heavy game..i think..
i catch huge pike on my slx all the time no problems at all.
Can you make drag power test between these two reel
That would be a good idea, I’ll certainly think about it!
@@humbugvideos there is non any video on drag power of these baitcasting reel on TH-cam as these brand say about drag weight, so kindly make soon which company truly give drag weight as on its description. If possible just do on Abu Garcia promax3 casting reel as well.
awesome informational video man!
Glad you enjoyed!
Glad I found your channel man! Subscribed.
I’m not, he doesn’t ever shut the fuck up😂
@@austinhyde1425 LOL Savage
Hey are these reel anti- backlash!!!???
I wouldn’t say ANTI, however they do a great job at it compared to other $100 reels!
@@humbugvideos what about casting super light lures like Googan plopper and whacky rigs I'm very very new to baitcasting reels, I been a spinning real man all my life until late last super.. thank you for you honesty info..
@@luckylucky9006 For really light stuff as a beginner I would still use your spinning rod. Use the baitcaster for the heavier stuff until your used to it.
@@humbugvideos I hear you but honestly where the fun in that lol... I want off the porch 🤣🤣🤣 get at big 🐟🐟 ya feel me 🤣
@@luckylucky9006 whatever puts em in the boat🤷🏽♂️🤣
Clearly the Garcia is the better choice just based on the amout of bearings... the reels casted the same because he set the brakes and anti backlash the same for his casting style.. redo vid no brake or anti backlash
Just because a reel has more bearings doesn't make it a better reel. I see too many people at my work try to base their purchase solely off which reel has more bearing. Its not about which one has more, its about how well they use them. The 13 fishing concept Z is a perfect example of this. Like I said in the video, both reels were tuned before taking test results in order to get the maximum distance without backlash. If you still disagree, I'd love to see a video of you beating my cast! Thanks for the feedback
@@humbugvideos Exactly, I'm not too sure why many new buyers today believe that more bearings = better reel. If you go on amazon right now, many companies are selling like $50 baitcasters with 18+1 bearings or something like that, and you can tell they are not good based on the reviews lol. Even the shimanos without the micro module gears (the feature that makes them _extra_ smooth) are quite comfortable to reel and pretty smooth compared to other reels on the market.
What rod would you recommend for either? I'm new to non Wal-Mart priced fishing gear lol
Hey there! Pairing one of these with an Abu Garcia Vendetta or Veritas rod would be a great option. I’ve used both and they r great. 7’ medium heavy or medium is the ticket for all around applications. Hope this helps👍🏽
I recently got the revo x and have paired it up with a diawa arid x mh fast action 7' and a shimano sellus mh 7'. It looks better on the shimano (the electric blue looks great), but I prefer the daiwa arid.
@@ETuss713 I haven't heard much about the Arid, I'll have to do some research. Thanks for the suggestion!
Remember the amount of line can dictate how far the cast is. If the revo has more line say 145 yards it won’t cast as far as say 100 yards would. That could be a variable is to make sure both reels have the same amount of line on.
Luckily both reels were very close in spool capacity, but that’s something to consider in the next cast offs for sure! Thanks for the input👍🏽
The Revo x is great, until the side place flies off in the lake.
Yah that usually makes it pretty hard to cast…
11 lbs of Drag what is going on 😅 that's a big no go for me. I'll use me Favorite white bird spinning reel has more on a size 20 that's a Bass reel 🤦
Every time you casted with the revo you stood still...the other one you stepped into the cast...
Not even fair comparison...
Stand still on both...
Thanks for the videos man, +1 subscribed.
Thank you for this video !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quality content dude. I subbed to your channel. I think the only difference between these is profile and magnetic vs cent brakes
Slx is much smoother and lighter
I still think the only thing the Revo x does that the slx can't do is provide more line and a tad higher drag which really doesn't mean anything. The quality of the drag on the Shimano is better, it casts further in almost every category, the braking system is extremely well rounded. The slx is also made much better. The slx will last longer. To each his own. The x has also been advertised @ $39.99.
No bias there making completely unverifiable claims. To you your own but you don't know 80% of that.
Lol you keep saying that and I’ll keep whacking biggens with the Revo :)
No, fact. The Slx is higher quality, tighter tolerances, it's a better reel by a mile in every way. Sorry you got your feeling hurt, but that's how you know it's the truth... The truth don't GAF about your feelings. 😁
@@lmsmbassaddict7378 Take it easy, Ben Shapiro. Nobody's feelings are hurt. Two things can coexist, you know. I can mention that you have no proof for most of those claims while also being able to handle disagreement. Typical troll though. Facts get questioned, replies with "no, facts." Laughable dude. Where's the proof?
@@austinsims100 Same dude. Cannot beat this reel for the price. Just got one at Bass Pro for $79 and then $15 more off with the trade in coupon.
I am your 800th sub :D
Are you wayne rooney 🤣
Great video thanks 👌🏻👌🏻
I’m a shimano guy too
I tried to keep my bias away from the video, but it’s so hard when all there stuff is so good!
In one minute and ten seconds he said ”uhm” ten times
take a shot every UM!
Dog Dude Drone We would be PLASTERED
@@humbugvideos I did it..... Lucky my country we have affordable healthcare
loody the leprican jeeeez lol
nice bro
You should do the Shimano SLX DC versus versus the Shimano SLX DC
Asher Kruse That would be a fun one, maybe next time!
you just said the same reel twice?
Slx dc vs slx dc?? What do you mean by the sama reel?
@@NashFishingChannel Haha looking back I had read it as curado dc vs slx dc. I think that's what he meant!
Everyone has different casts. Revo X is wayyyy smoother in terms of casting and reeling. 8 ball bearings! For the same price as the SLX 4 bearings. And the Revo X actually has the ability to cast farther as well...Shimano is overrated!
We can agree to disagree on this one, however I advise you to not determine a reel solely based on its ball bearing count. 13 Fishing has made a reel that has NONE of them and its amazing. They are both excellent reels for $100 and have their purposes. Thanks for watching Kyle!
@@humbugvideos very interesting!
Good.i like you my friend
You re too shimano guy 🤣
I can cast 1 oz jig for 90+ yards easily with Revo X and 6’9” rod.
u look like rayan tran
Bro you could have a much larger following if you didn't say "uhm" between every other word.
Go back and count how many uhhh's and ummm's you used...