a good way to practice the invincible reverse fair is to use uncle punch's "armada-shine training", especially the situation where you have to immediately do the fair from ledge without using the double jump.
I was just about to comment this. I've taught myself all kinds of useful edgeguards and which ones work better on which stages, percents, angles, etc. Btw I usually do a parry when in doubt and try to hog the ledge (tricky on Yoshi's b/c low floor). Is this a bad play? I don't see it very often.
In the first scenario you demonstrated, noticing whether there’s no sideb sound within a certain period of time to determine whether you should reactively go off-stage is a way of thinking about it that I hadn’t considered. Makes sense since they’ll only have a limited time window where they could possibly sideb without being too low to survive if they want to do it. That’s pretty useful. Although against falco, any marth should definitely be ready to meteor cancel from a cheeky falco side-b as an attempt to stock trade, if the marth is reacting off of the absence of an audio cue like that lol.
I have also seen Zain sometimes hitting them with side b after fast falling from the ledge.. I doesnt send them as far but it works well when they go extra low since you can go lower as you comserve your doublejump, and is enough to kill in this situations. It also looks way easier to land than reverse fair.
a good way to practice the invincible reverse fair is to use uncle punch's "armada-shine training", especially the situation where you have to immediately do the fair from ledge without using the double jump.
I was just about to comment this. I've taught myself all kinds of useful edgeguards and which ones work better on which stages, percents, angles, etc. Btw I usually do a parry when in doubt and try to hog the ledge (tricky on Yoshi's b/c low floor). Is this a bad play? I don't see it very often.
In the first scenario you demonstrated, noticing whether there’s no sideb sound within a certain period of time to determine whether you should reactively go off-stage is a way of thinking about it that I hadn’t considered. Makes sense since they’ll only have a limited time window where they could possibly sideb without being too low to survive if they want to do it. That’s pretty useful. Although against falco, any marth should definitely be ready to meteor cancel from a cheeky falco side-b as an attempt to stock trade, if the marth is reacting off of the absence of an audio cue like that lol.
You can also react faster to sound than to visuals
I have also seen Zain sometimes hitting them with side b after fast falling from the ledge.. I doesnt send them as far but it works well when they go extra low since you can go lower as you comserve your doublejump, and is enough to kill in this situations. It also looks way easier to land than reverse fair.
Edgeguarding fox is EASILY my number one issue with the MU. The low up B in particular frustrates me a ton. Thanks for this.
I just charge neutral b and hope for the best
THANK YOU
Me too. I am very tired of Fox making it back more than he should LOL. hiyaa shu hiyaaa hiyaa shu shus hus hus hiyaaa