Chris Beach Kinda surprising they didn't account for backwards movement. I mean, SM64's BLJ was already pretty much common knowledge when the new engine got introduced, yet Valve made the same mistake.
Brian Barrett they didn’t mean lies as in deception, they meant lies as in “lies in your hands” Saying that runs are pretty moderated, and that the WR is currently 47:37, I’m going to say that nothing else is modded to make his run faster.
@hi there The game speed is not tied to how long it takes to load polygons. He explained in the video that a tool was developed to pause the timer during loading sequences, and any performance hiccups are reflected by an FPS drop. NOT a game speed drop. I think adding mods is always risky when it comes to speedrunning, but models in the source engine are just models. It should be safe.
3:31 This, this right here. More of this. Spotlighting individual techniques really makes these videos better. Until I saw some of the jumps in your SM64, I couldn't have cared less about speedrunning. Delving into specific tricks, no matter how trivial they are to runners, is what a speedrunning normie like me loved most about my favorite video of yours (SMK64), so please don't stop~
The series focuses predominantly on the people and the numbers. It can feel a bit like "and then x got the time down to 8.00, and then y got the time down to 7.00, and again to 6.00," etc. I completely agree with KhemicalKrash that hearing about the actual tricks and techniques that these speedrunners use in order to get their time down is the spice of this series.
Agreed. Many of the episodes have been more about the technique and tricks and those were awesome. Some episodes, like this one, have sadly been more of a 20 minute list of names, times and clips.
Please do more of this! It makes the videos so much more enjoyable when you go into the different tricks all the runners use and how they evolved over time!
Come time for a video on Windwaker or OoT, there had better be a lot of focus on skips, tricks, and exploits, Mr. Salt. Especially Windwaker, what with Palace Skip and Fairy Hover.
I'm a a bit late, but thanks for the feedback. I tried really hard to talk about tricks as much as I could in this video, but it was difficult for me, because I only knew a few before I started researching. But yeah, I agree that more of an emphasis on tricks and techniques makes for a better video, so I'll work on that more on future videos.
i wonder how it feels to grind your ass off just to get your WR and maybe improve it by a couple minutes and then a couple months later a new glitch is found that makes your time look like a complete joke.
I imagine it's not much different from a content update; like in an MMO for instance. Following that example, you grind all the way up to the highest level and gear and clearing the most difficult content then another expansion or content patch comes through and you do it all over again because it's more of what you liked, but just enough different. For these guys I imagine the actual number is secondary to how well they felt they did that particular run. That they truly optimized and dominated that specific run. Then when a new glitch is found they can optimize and dominate that run too. Or not. In many of these videos someone who once dominated the scene for a game reached the peak and became content with that; retiring and never returning the scene even after new glitches and more optimizations are found.
I don't think Gognack cares that much. He probably thinks he could beat the record if he tried. With all these new skips found? I have no doubt he could take it back if he wanted to.
Idk I have fond memories of watching Gocnak run HL2 back when he did. He was having fun and so was chat and he was ridiculously good at the game. People called him Godnak. No one else came close. It felt like you were watching something big when you tuned in to his stream and his chat freaked out every time he was on a good pace.
It happens all the time. The worst is when a segment has a ton of time and effort put into it over the course of years by various runners only for someone to find a skip that invalidates all of it. Sometimes people are so salty that it creates a new category lmao.
Summoning Salt: "Are we going to see a run under one hour at one point" Me: Yes, yes we will As of me writing this ( 22nd September 2021) it is 43 minutes and 40 seconds (record set on 4th April 2021 by maltemiller)
What's great fun, is that when chili ran with that model, most of the voice lines had been recreated by one of his followers so that Miku actually spoke, rather than Alyx.
It's not actually good. It's entertaining, but it has a really basic and repetitive formula of making videos, a really monotone voice and uninterested way of telling the facts and an over all lack of editing. It's just... Pretty bland. The only interesting part is the information that the video provides, but the delivery of that information is pretty boring.
Camilo Brizuela Way less entertaining than all your videos, thats for sure.....oh wait, you have none. Editing and making videos for thousands of people is hella easy and takes no effort/skill at all, you're totally right. /s Edit: You also obviously don't know what monotonous/monotone means, because he definitely isn't.
I guess you'd prefer it if someone screamed like a Twitch streamer, eh? This is one of the best new channels I've come across in the past year. When I see these videos come up on my list, I drop what I'm doing and watch them immediately. That is the sign of a great channel.
Oh hey this game looks pretty cool... :> Talk about nostalgia, and all of it was only a few years ago? My goodness, how time flies, just like Gordon on Coast. Nice work on the video, Summoning!
Time flies indeed. It is truly unbelievable how far Half-Life 2 has come, and it's even harder to believe how fast the time has gone. Half-Life 2 speedrunning has undergone so much since 2004 and I truly cannot wait to see where it goes in the future. Serious shout-outs to Summoning Salt for his relentless dedication to creating quality content.
And whats even better, this game is FAR from perfection. 1 year ago they published a new segmented run of 40 minutes! But a new rrick was discovered soon, and now it went down to SUB 30 MINUTES!!!
Half life 2 speedruns in a nutshell Gman: But Gordon how are we gonna get up to 88 bHops per hour. There's no roads. Gordon: Roads? Gman where were going we don't need...roads (bHops into the sunset
Awesome video! Nice little trip down memory lane for me. Surprised it's been that long honestly! Crazy to see how much the run has changed over the years though.
Dear SummoningSalt, I will forever wait for a Halo: Combat Evolved WR Progression. GarishGoblin is literally competing with himself and the evolution of tricks and skips are insane. Very interesting runs and I keep rewatching them.
Fantastic video, but I'm surprised you didn't include the transition into Boatless. While I'm not a good HL2 speedrunner, it seems to me that going from using the boat to utilizing clips and mostly ABHing was a critical point in the history of the game.
Moose did good for holding it for 2 months, you may not think that's good but it is pretty impressive, especially for being the first documented run on the new engine.
Please revisit this!! Even if it's a 10 minute video covering the new runs, I feel like the tactics used were under-covered, and the new WR (a sub-hour achieved about 4 months ago) would be really cool to dissect.
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I was playing Half-Life 2 deathmatch... and I saw someone using these tricks to propel themselves to previously non-accessible areas... this gave them an advantage over everyone else on the server... and... while you could call it cheating... I give them Kudos for their skill.
Yes, it is cheating, and no it's not skill. Anyone who uses glitches like this in a competitive online multiplayer game is just a flat out cheater, period. There's a BIG difference between using them in a single player game, and a competitive online multiplayer game.
@@DeadlyDanDaMan lol no. Go fix it then. As long as it is available for both sides its not cheating or unfair advantage, its just a new skill cap in the game.
Great video yet again, Salt! I'm sure you get "do this game!" a shitload, but I have to say, watching the progression of HL2 really makes me yearn for a DOOM 2016 video. The progression of that run, especially over such a short time since the game's been out, would likely be a great watch. Regardless, keep making these; no matter which game you choose.
Twitch changed their settings & deleted all videos that were not "highlighted" I am not gonna put the blame on the SpeedRunners it is Twitch's fault since the livestream videos were saved on their platform prior too the update.
He wasn't really putting blame, it was just a joking setup to make the reveal of him beating the record literally in his next go more impacting. If you notice, he didn't condone at all the first guy who never highlighted his runs.
I mean I think Twitch should've gave more notice to the runners but other than that it's their fault for not saving. If you're playing a game and it crashes suddenly without saving, blame the game. If you're playing a game and it gives you thirty days to save before closing and you don't save, blame yourself.
@Ethan Ansell You're leaving this comment on a site that stores goodness knows how many PBs of video data on their servers when the vast majority use it for free
I really enjoy these videos, including this one, but I would love to see more specific details and less "montage of world record wins". I understand this is progression, so highlighting runs that continually lower the record makes a lot of sense, but things like ABH, changes in how things were timed, new skips, etc. I find the most interesting. I really enjoy HL2 runs, so just mentioning things like using a table in Follow Freeman to launch up a huge spiral staircase would be cool to see (even if skips like that end up being skipped all together later). Really it comes down to speedrunning involving a lot of skill and creativity, and so highlighting said skill is all the more satisfying in my opinion. Another example being how, you know, the game wants you to drive a car in Highway 17 while runners skip it altogether because the car is slow as hell by comparison (and using a barrel wedged in a door to get started is always fun to see). Footage of this is shown in the video, but those not familiar with HL2 may not know that normally a player should be driving during the sections the player is moving mach 2.
agree. he could talk less about how long people hold records, and more about what specific mechanical exploits they used, how difficult they were, and how much time they saved.
My favorite quote is @ 22:22 . Made me smile. As a fellow nerd, I know that elation, exhaustion, giddiness (but you don't want to look stupid, so you kind of try and hide it), and whatever that feeling is of adrenaline washing out of your system. Fixing something that isn't broken. Tinkering with something that works "just fine". Rinse-repeating. Overclocking. Breaking. Building. Once complete, I think you could put a little bubble above all our heads and have that play, regardless of whatever was overcome, and it would fit perfectly. Salt, these are amazing. I just found this channel and will subscribe. GG
I love these videos. They are so well put together and its easy to see that a lot of care and effort goes into them. I don't usually watch speed runs myself but I find these stories to be fascinating. Thank you Summoning Salt for doing them justice with each and every one of your awesome videos :)
[Comment last edited on 20 September 2019] The current world record for the New Engine Any% category is 49:29 by maltemller on 17 May 2019. The current world record for the New Engine Any% No Voidclip category is 48:44 by maltemller on 9 September 2019.
I know I've said this several times before but I just love these videos so much. I can't imagine how much time goes into research, scripting and editing. Such quality. I already can't wait to see what's next!
so, we basically discovered a way to seamlessly go through walls. i'd recommend watching the commentary maltemller and i (along with others) did at ESA Summer 19, or waezone's run at SGDQ if you want an explanation
Amazing video. I can't imagine how difficult it is to document all of these facts, and all of these clips in a structured order and edit it all together. Excellent work mate.
Hahahaha, I just wrote an email to him telling him, amongst other things, is was pronounced "pie kin". Anyway, so glad you partially started the excitement and dedication to the speedrun of this game.
I thought that it wouldn't be enjoyable to watch videos of the WR progression of games I have never played... I thought wrong. God damn Summoning Salt uploads quality content! One of my favorite TH-camrs who I have recently stumbled across.
Hey man- great content. Randomly got suggested your mario 4-2 video, then watched this one. I knew basically nothing of the speedrunning community before seeing these vids-- very detailed explanations, thank you.
If you're new to this, i recommend looking for runs of games you like, you would be suprised by how fast a game can be played, specially in the glitch categories
I knew this was coming, I saw the private video in the playlist. Didn't expect this game tho, I kinda expected Ocarina of Time tho OOT WR Progression vid when
Oot WR Progression was done by another person after asking salt if he could do it so im pretty sure salt won't do it but you can look up the video by the other person who asked salt
Here Post 1 million subs for my boy Summoning Salt. Thanks for creating top notch thesis background (sometimes dominating when it gets crazy) material man. I should honestly cite you for helping with my thesis.
Just found this today, and its fascinating! Thank you!! Also I love the last comment because yes, the record has been taken down below an hour now. So cool to see these videos!!
I'm addicted to these videos! Some games I've played and am in awe of these guys, some I haven't and I'm learning tons about those games......and am in awe of those guys lol
These videos are some of the absolute best in the whole speedrunning community. Could you do a video on Wind Waker HD any%? I think it has the potential to be a very interesting video.
I don't expect you to do this, because it's a relatively small speed running scene (or was? I haven't run it in years, I'm not sure if anyone still does), and it's a pretty unconventional run, but a WRP for the Binding of Isaac would be awesome. I never held the record myself, but I knew people who did. I also never ran anything other than 1 character chest runs, and people quickly stopped running that around the time I stopped running the game altogether. I just found these WRP videos and they make me want to get back into running so badly! I just don't know what game to run.
Those games are so luck reliant I imagine a video on them would be a series of people with pretty average skill at the game just good luck beating the previous wr.
To clarify, the new engine is still Source, they just upgraded from Source 2004 to Source 2007 which offers better movement, more lighting tricks, more GPU usage and better multiplayer integration. So technically Old Engine and New Engine _should_ be called 2004 and 2007, but I'm just a nerd with far too much Valve knowledge for his own good, sooo
You see, this video really fucked me up. Last night i was incredibly stoned, i doubled up on my regular dose of edibles, and watched this video while lost in some weird-ass trip through space Oh my, next morning i wake up and the video is gone. I can very faintly remember some parts of it, but i have no idea what game was the video about or when was it uploaded. I thought i had travelled to a parallel dimension where this video hadn't been uploaded. And im having lunch and here it is, reuploaded. Good shit 💯
Hey man I love your vids ahahah!!!!! Its so interesting! I was wondering if you would ever do ocarina of time speed runs or any pokemon speed runs progression?
as of this comment, the record now held by maltemller at 40m 42s! That's more than 5 minutes faster than second place, so he must be exceptional. chili_n_such is 9th place with the last run shown in this video, raintnt and deathwingua are both top 5. Wonder how they've saved so much time, would love for SS to revisit these much lower records
Thanks, I very much enjoyed this! But I also have to say that this is the one Summoning Salt video that cries out for a sequel the most. Partly because of the insane progress the WR made after this, partly because you refined your narrative skills so much more in the meantime. Would love to see many of the tricks and skips explained, that came up a little bit short here. (Also needs Patricia Taxxon in the Soundtrack!)
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Thoroughly enjoyed this. Nicely done.
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Literally 3 days after this video was uploaded, Raintnt_ beat WR with a time of 1:12:05 (Without loads)
And now we're looking to break the 1 hour mark.
@@josephlawson2768 it was beaten the same day you posted this btw
@xZempty_ no it doesnt make sense, as long as you stay IN a brush, youre inbounds
It’s now at 40 something minutes
@@LDR.125 pretty sure that's a segmented old engine run.
The video last night was reuploaded today because the resolution was really low.
oh
I thought it was due to copyright issues. Still, very cool video, as always!
weird, looks the same to me, fine either way
looks the same
Yeah sometimes TH-cam doesn't process the higher resolution files at all when you upload. I've had that problem a few times.
For those wondering, as of June 2022. The record stands at 43:02
Wonder if we'll reach sub 30 one day
@@mitlanderson Maybe it will be sub 30 when HL 3 came out
48 minutes and 55 seconds is the record that now stands in 2019!
That’s absolutely mad
Down to less than 1/3 of the time on the original WR, and approaching half the time of the 200 segments run (43:55)
@@cameronschiralli3569 So what does that make the half life of the record?
But the G-Man will always be faster than you XD
The record has been lowered again to 48:44.
6:57 hey thats me whats up
Woah. Wack
Wtf
I didn't serve any purpose in this video :D
Wow a speed runner your a amazing person I appreciate speed runner so much how do you even do that in games
Nice hacks XD
I find it funny how they tried to fix bunny hopping but ended up unintentionally creating a backwards version of the same exact thing haha
Chris Beach it's actually substantially worse, back hopping can give you way more speed than bhop ever did
gu244 yea alot of games have no capped speed for backwards movement, Mario 64 and big rigs racing for example
Chris Beach Kinda surprising they didn't account for backwards movement. I mean, SM64's BLJ was already pretty much common knowledge when the new engine got introduced, yet Valve made the same mistake.
welcome to valve software....
Funny considering SM64 is the game that made Gaben "realize games were art."
I love how the run ends the moment the G-man says "Time". It's just so perfect.
The secret to beating the WR lies in his anime waifu mod
Brian Barrett they didn’t mean lies as in deception, they meant lies as in “lies in your hands”
Saying that runs are pretty moderated, and that the WR is currently 47:37, I’m going to say that nothing else is modded to make his run faster.
@hi there The game speed is not tied to how long it takes to load polygons. He explained in the video that a tool was developed to pause the timer during loading sequences, and any performance hiccups are reflected by an FPS drop. NOT a game speed drop. I think adding mods is always risky when it comes to speedrunning, but models in the source engine are just models. It should be safe.
@hi there that's called the Milton Paradigm
and the awesome dog jump (look at grayfruits hl2 speedrun video to understand the refferance)
I refuse to play HL2 without my Miku!
Current wr (as of Nov 2020) is:
1. maltemller at 47:37
2. waezone at 48:53.061
3. fleack at 52:56.940
Sooner or later, that time is gonna go down below 30 minutes.
@@andy56duky impossible. No one's ever been that good at speedruning. It simply can't be done.
@@Hideyoshi1991 that’s what they said about 90 minutes!
@@andy56duky Probably. Ocarina of time went from 2 hours to...7 minutes? with 3 of those minutes being the intro cutscene
47:32 ;)
3:31 This, this right here. More of this.
Spotlighting individual techniques really makes these videos better. Until I saw some of the jumps in your SM64, I couldn't have cared less about speedrunning. Delving into specific tricks, no matter how trivial they are to runners, is what a speedrunning normie like me loved most about my favorite video of yours (SMK64), so please don't stop~
The series focuses predominantly on the people and the numbers. It can feel a bit like "and then x got the time down to 8.00, and then y got the time down to 7.00, and again to 6.00," etc. I completely agree with KhemicalKrash that hearing about the actual tricks and techniques that these speedrunners use in order to get their time down is the spice of this series.
Agreed. Many of the episodes have been more about the technique and tricks and those were awesome. Some episodes, like this one, have sadly been more of a 20 minute list of names, times and clips.
Please do more of this! It makes the videos so much more enjoyable when you go into the different tricks all the runners use and how they evolved over time!
Come time for a video on Windwaker or OoT, there had better be a lot of focus on skips, tricks, and exploits, Mr. Salt. Especially Windwaker, what with Palace Skip and Fairy Hover.
I'm a a bit late, but thanks for the feedback. I tried really hard to talk about tricks as much as I could in this video, but it was difficult for me, because I only knew a few before I started researching. But yeah, I agree that more of an emphasis on tricks and techniques makes for a better video, so I'll work on that more on future videos.
i wonder how it feels to grind your ass off just to get your WR and maybe improve it by a couple minutes and then a couple months later a new glitch is found that makes your time look like a complete joke.
I imagine it's not much different from a content update; like in an MMO for instance. Following that example, you grind all the way up to the highest level and gear and clearing the most difficult content then another expansion or content patch comes through and you do it all over again because it's more of what you liked, but just enough different.
For these guys I imagine the actual number is secondary to how well they felt they did that particular run. That they truly optimized and dominated that specific run. Then when a new glitch is found they can optimize and dominate that run too. Or not. In many of these videos someone who once dominated the scene for a game reached the peak and became content with that; retiring and never returning the scene even after new glitches and more optimizations are found.
I don't think Gognack cares that much. He probably thinks he could beat the record if he tried. With all these new skips found? I have no doubt he could take it back if he wanted to.
Idk I have fond memories of watching Gocnak run HL2 back when he did. He was having fun and so was chat and he was ridiculously good at the game. People called him Godnak. No one else came close. It felt like you were watching something big when you tuned in to his stream and his chat freaked out every time he was on a good pace.
Same as the guy with the run before the glitch you used to take it with was discovered * hums the circle of life off the Lion King *
It happens all the time.
The worst is when a segment has a ton of time and effort put into it over the course of years by various runners only for someone to find a skip that invalidates all of it. Sometimes people are so salty that it creates a new category lmao.
The G-Man was right: "You have done a great deal in a small timespan."
Summoning Salt: "Are we going to see a run under one hour at one point"
Me: Yes, yes we will
As of me writing this ( 22nd September 2021) it is 43 minutes and 40 seconds (record set on 4th April 2021 by maltemiller)
Yeah with the advent of quick clip this vid definitely needs a sequel
Call me when it's glitchless
I’d love to see this updated some day. The record currently stands at 47:37 and a ton of crazy tricks have been found
Amazing video, Salt! It's unbelievable how much the game has changed in only 4 short years. And that was only half of it.
when are you going to beat quadrazids segmented hl1 run? btw I also love the great runs, keep it up
he forgot the 40:49 run you guys did XD
yeah but dwahmov was a segmented run and this video talks about it
Idempotent, why don't you try it? I'm expecting your sub 1:20 run by next year.
im talking about half-life 1, not half-life 2! th-cam.com/video/VtI5HM7GVGY/w-d-xo.html&t
Me: what’s the past tense of speedrun? (As a Verb)
Summoning Salt: 23:24
Seems legit
*_can u shouldn’t_*
Spedrun vs Speedran!
FIGHT!
Ventus The Sox idk if any if them are a word ahahah
Ventus The Sox Let’s make a compromise. Spedran
Gocnak is a god. I'm sad he quit.
also, no mention of boatless? Figuring out how to beat waterhazard without the boat was a massive breakthrough.
let's think of it as an extended holiday
No you are not since you have to do gateskip
This old video doesn't have HOME - We're Finally Landing playing at the beginning so I played it myself
9 days ago the sub-hour barrier was breached by maltemller with a 59:38. Congrats to him, he’s 5 minutes ahead of 2nd place.
hes now at #1 still with a 47:37
@@HDSpectrums holy shit
@@shifty1927 and now with 43:02
@@AmplifiedGamerEXTRA Holy shit
WR with
(Clearing thoat)(coughing hard)
MIKU
If you want her in your game you can download it from here - www.moddb.com/addons/hatsune-miku-v2-for-hl2universe-miku-leek
when your comment becomes popular
spoderman: AHHHHHHHhhhh
@@leovang3425 Who still uses the spoderman meme lol
What's great fun, is that when chili ran with that model, most of the voice lines had been recreated by one of his followers so that Miku actually spoke, rather than Alyx.
@@MaDDaViD123 Wow, that's great!!
This video deserves a follow up, the record now is at 48 minutes!
47 now
agreed
This fucking content is so god damn good...
It's not actually good. It's entertaining, but it has a really basic and repetitive formula of making videos, a really monotone voice and uninterested way of telling the facts and an over all lack of editing. It's just... Pretty bland. The only interesting part is the information that the video provides, but the delivery of that information is pretty boring.
Camilo Brizuela God, could you be anymore pedantic.
'Fucking' childish
Camilo Brizuela Way less entertaining than all your videos, thats for sure.....oh wait, you have none.
Editing and making videos for thousands of people is hella easy and takes no effort/skill at all, you're totally right. /s
Edit: You also obviously don't know what monotonous/monotone means, because he definitely isn't.
I guess you'd prefer it if someone screamed like a Twitch streamer, eh?
This is one of the best new channels I've come across in the past year. When I see these videos come up on my list, I drop what I'm doing and watch them immediately. That is the sign of a great channel.
This game is at 43:02 record now. Quite the changes to the run since this vid came out. Fun to see where records have gone for Salt’s old vids.
Crazy this 43:02 record still stands
Ayy, Chili_n_such uses MIKU to boost his speedrun
Exactly! =-)
Mer C what us MIKU? Can someone explain please?
Oh hey this game looks pretty cool... :>
Talk about nostalgia, and all of it was only a few years ago? My goodness, how time flies, just like Gordon on Coast.
Nice work on the video, Summoning!
Time flies indeed. It is truly unbelievable how far Half-Life 2 has come, and it's even harder to believe how fast the time has gone. Half-Life 2 speedrunning has undergone so much since 2004 and I truly cannot wait to see where it goes in the future. Serious shout-outs to Summoning Salt for his relentless dedication to creating quality content.
This gocnak guy is pretty cool. You might want to check out his twitch stream.
I really enjoyed your runs and practice streams years ago. Good times
And whats even better, this game is FAR from perfection. 1 year ago they published a new segmented run of 40 minutes! But a new rrick was discovered soon, and now it went down to SUB 30 MINUTES!!!
That was old engine though so...
Half life 2 speedruns in a nutshell
Gman: But Gordon how are we gonna get up to 88 bHops per hour. There's no roads.
Gordon: Roads? Gman where were going we don't need...roads
(bHops into the sunset
Mikhail Mcmorrow 🤣
Sounds like a gay romance story
Mikhail Mcmorrow
420 thumbs up.
I won’t ruin it *thumbs up*
nice a back to the future reference
Awesome video! Nice little trip down memory lane for me. Surprised it's been that long honestly! Crazy to see how much the run has changed over the years though.
TheTomsk45 surprises your comment has such a small amount of likes and no comments, impressive speedrun dude
99.9% of the time the 'impossible' time limit is surpassed.
The only exception being the Pokemon Yellow 0.00 run.
time it with real time, problem solved.
And dragster 5.57
Dear SummoningSalt, I will forever wait for a Halo: Combat Evolved WR Progression.
GarishGoblin is literally competing with himself and the evolution of tricks and skips are insane. Very interesting runs and I keep rewatching them.
I mean he did halo 2
Fantastic video, but I'm surprised you didn't include the transition into Boatless. While I'm not a good HL2 speedrunner, it seems to me that going from using the boat to utilizing clips and mostly ABHing was a critical point in the history of the game.
Moose did good for holding it for 2 months, you may not think that's good but it is pretty impressive, especially for being the first documented run on the new engine.
3:28 "A lot of sections in the game just required a bunch of creativity"
_dies_
SirBanana s-s-Sir?
Update: Someone just beat the game in 46 minutes 31 seconds
Update: 46:04
@@thewiseowl8804 How did they do that? I'm no speedrunner but wondering what they discovered new
45:06
@@Lemmons_ yep, it’s amazing! Your Alyx runs are amazing too, never would’ve expected that game to be completed so quickly.
@@Lemmons_what's spin in for any% alyx?
This speed run would be so much cooler if they stopped the timer when G-Man said “time”.
crazy that now is sub 38 and it was from a few days ago, speedrunners and their community are incredible
Please revisit this!! Even if it's a 10 minute video covering the new runs, I feel like the tactics used were under-covered, and the new WR (a sub-hour achieved about 4 months ago) would be really cool to dissect.
I was just thinking to myself that it was about time there was a new WRP vid.
And why do you think that?
Ninte1539
How?
+Ninte1539
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BriHard feelsbad, i thoight the same. Still a good video thoigh
Time, Dr Freeman?
3:21 So basically Super Mario 64 backwards long-jump made it into Half-Life 2.
Richard Samuelson
Took some computer programming in college and it makes sense.
I wonder what other games it is possible.
I was playing Half-Life 2 deathmatch... and I saw someone using these tricks to propel themselves to previously non-accessible areas... this gave them an advantage over everyone else on the server... and... while you could call it cheating... I give them Kudos for their skill.
Yes, it is cheating, and no it's not skill. Anyone who uses glitches like this in a competitive online multiplayer game is just a flat out cheater, period. There's a BIG difference between using them in a single player game, and a competitive online multiplayer game.
@@DeadlyDanDaMan but half life deathmatch is a really old game people rarely plays it, and everyone is there for fun so its not that competitive
@@DeadlyDanDaMan Its not their fault that they are good at the game
@@DeadlyDanDaMan lol no. Go fix it then. As long as it is available for both sides its not cheating or unfair advantage, its just a new skill cap in the game.
@@DeadlyDanDaMan while i would certainly call it cheating, there is definitely skill in being able to pull off those tricks in the first place.
You make the best speedrunning content on TH-cam! Seeing a new upload is like Christmas morning :)
Aye I’m seen at 19:16 and 19:42, was amazing to witness these runs live. -Dr Stinkbomber
Denton woah thats cool
Great video yet again, Salt! I'm sure you get "do this game!" a shitload, but I have to say, watching the progression of HL2 really makes me yearn for a DOOM 2016 video. The progression of that run, especially over such a short time since the game's been out, would likely be a great watch. Regardless, keep making these; no matter which game you choose.
Twitch changed their settings & deleted all videos that were not "highlighted" I am not gonna put the blame on the SpeedRunners it is Twitch's fault since the livestream videos were saved on their platform prior too the update.
He wasn't really putting blame, it was just a joking setup to make the reveal of him beating the record literally in his next go more impacting.
If you notice, he didn't condone at all the first guy who never highlighted his runs.
I mean I think Twitch should've gave more notice to the runners but other than that it's their fault for not saving.
If you're playing a game and it crashes suddenly without saving, blame the game.
If you're playing a game and it gives you thirty days to save before closing and you don't save, blame yourself.
@Ethan Ansell You're leaving this comment on a site that stores goodness knows how many PBs of video data on their servers when the vast majority use it for free
@@sysop073 Twitch is not Google
@@OatmealTheCrazy Yeah, twitch has even more support with Amazon's cloud.
14:43 "Maybe we still have... time, Mr. Freeman?" Nice line
I really enjoy these videos, including this one, but I would love to see more specific details and less "montage of world record wins". I understand this is progression, so highlighting runs that continually lower the record makes a lot of sense, but things like ABH, changes in how things were timed, new skips, etc. I find the most interesting. I really enjoy HL2 runs, so just mentioning things like using a table in Follow Freeman to launch up a huge spiral staircase would be cool to see (even if skips like that end up being skipped all together later). Really it comes down to speedrunning involving a lot of skill and creativity, and so highlighting said skill is all the more satisfying in my opinion. Another example being how, you know, the game wants you to drive a car in Highway 17 while runners skip it altogether because the car is slow as hell by comparison (and using a barrel wedged in a door to get started is always fun to see). Footage of this is shown in the video, but those not familiar with HL2 may not know that normally a player should be driving during the sections the player is moving mach 2.
agree. he could talk less about how long people hold records, and more about what specific mechanical exploits they used, how difficult they were, and how much time they saved.
Please consider updating this, the progress on this one has been insane, I can practically hear the music drops.
My favorite quote is @ 22:22 . Made me smile. As a fellow nerd, I know that elation, exhaustion, giddiness (but you don't want to look stupid, so you kind of try and hide it), and whatever that feeling is of adrenaline washing out of your system. Fixing something that isn't broken. Tinkering with something that works "just fine". Rinse-repeating. Overclocking. Breaking. Building. Once complete, I think you could put a little bubble above all our heads and have that play, regardless of whatever was overcome, and it would fit perfectly.
Salt, these are amazing. I just found this channel and will subscribe. GG
I love these videos. They are so well put together and its easy to see that a lot of care and effort goes into them. I don't usually watch speed runs myself but I find these stories to be fascinating. Thank you Summoning Salt for doing them justice with each and every one of your awesome videos :)
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The current world record for the New Engine Any% category is 49:29 by maltemller on 17 May 2019.
The current world record for the New Engine Any% No Voidclip category is 48:44 by maltemller on 9 September 2019.
Dr. Breen watching Gordon make the seven hour war look like it took three months by comparison be like
14:43 was such a badass way to celebrate his WR.
20:16 Damn, that's good too. HL2's lines conveniently lend themselves so well to speedrunning!
Might be time to do a part 2 to this one. Good stuff.
I fucking love your videos man. Just wanted to show the appreciation. The fact that you yourself are a speedrunner just makes it cooler.
I know I've said this several times before but I just love these videos so much. I can't imagine how much time goes into research, scripting and editing. Such quality. I already can't wait to see what's next!
Would love to see a World Record Progression on Super Mario Sunshine!
Shjon Atkinson Look up AverageTrey
23:00 I must've missed the Hatsune Miku Half Life update.
I really enjoy these videos and your retrowave soundtrack ;)
I love your videos on WR progression. They all made with such love and passion, I will comment everywhere!
could you do an updated version of this? i'd love to see you talk about how it got down to 48 minuets
so, we basically discovered a way to seamlessly go through walls. i'd recommend watching the commentary maltemller and i (along with others) did at ESA Summer 19, or waezone's run at SGDQ if you want an explanation
quickclip is why Kreygasm
5:43 it sounds like the percussion is saying "BACK, HOP ....., HOP"
23:00 Something seems out of place here, but I can't put my finger on it!
God damn dude, you work so hard for the speed running community making these videos. Keep it up and thank you!
Amazing video. I can't imagine how difficult it is to document all of these facts, and all of these clips in a structured order and edit it all together. Excellent work mate.
you should do a video of the 1st halo game wr progression
ay it's pronounced pie-kin buster
Pykn owO
püken
Hahahaha, I just wrote an email to him telling him, amongst other things, is was pronounced "pie kin". Anyway, so glad you partially started the excitement and dedication to the speedrun of this game.
Why didn't summoning notice this comment? we need to like it to show him.
You're a fuckin legend
23:09
Half Life 2 with guest appearance by Hatsune Miku
I thought that it wouldn't be enjoyable to watch videos of the WR progression of games I have never played... I thought wrong. God damn Summoning Salt uploads quality content! One of my favorite TH-camrs who I have recently stumbled across.
the "WOMBO COMBO" in twitch chat got me 13:40
Where do Gordon Freeman and Jon Snow meet for drinks ?
The Crowbar.
14:43
Maybe we still have TIME, Mister Freeman ?
Absolute legend
"Are we gonna eventually see a run under an hour at some point?" - Welcome to 2019, it has been done a bit over two weeks ago :D
Hey man- great content. Randomly got suggested your mario 4-2 video, then watched this one. I knew basically nothing of the speedrunning community before seeing these vids-- very detailed explanations, thank you.
If you're new to this, i recommend looking for runs of games you like, you would be suprised by how fast a game can be played, specially in the glitch categories
one of my favourites, i love the tricks they find for this engine.
I knew this was coming, I saw the private video in the playlist.
Didn't expect this game tho, I kinda expected Ocarina of Time tho
OOT WR Progression vid when
Foconut Badboon I think he'll save OoT for something special:)
tho tho tho tho tho tho
an oot one would be an hour long
Oot WR Progression was done by another person after asking salt if he could do it so im pretty sure salt won't do it but you can look up the video by the other person who asked salt
Wow. This category is sub 50 minutes now. That's wild. I'd love to see a follow up to this video!
We need a follow up. Sub 40 minutes has been broken
These videos are amazing, thankyou for bringing such a small dedicated world to us!
Here Post 1 million subs for my boy Summoning Salt. Thanks for creating top notch thesis background (sometimes dominating when it gets crazy) material man. I should honestly cite you for helping with my thesis.
9:38 8-bit Smooth Criminal is something I never knew I wanted in my playlist, but here we are, huh
19:18 My brain: ... Tetris for Jeff!
Great Video mate. Glad you fixed the video quality. Please can you do a progression video on Zelda:OOT!!!
c'mon we need this
Jana Lindsay-Smith please everybody upvote this!!
That will be an hour and a half long documentary !
zelda:OOT speedrun or the rise and fall of cosmo
Just found this today, and its fascinating! Thank you!!
Also I love the last comment because yes, the record has been taken down below an hour now. So cool to see these videos!!
I'm addicted to these videos! Some games I've played and am in awe of these guys, some I haven't and I'm learning tons about those games......and am in awe of those guys lol
These videos are some of the absolute best in the whole speedrunning community. Could you do a video on Wind Waker HD any%? I think it has the potential to be a very interesting video.
I don't expect you to do this, because it's a relatively small speed running scene (or was? I haven't run it in years, I'm not sure if anyone still does), and it's a pretty unconventional run, but a WRP for the Binding of Isaac would be awesome. I never held the record myself, but I knew people who did. I also never ran anything other than 1 character chest runs, and people quickly stopped running that around the time I stopped running the game altogether.
I just found these WRP videos and they make me want to get back into running so badly! I just don't know what game to run.
Those games are so luck reliant I imagine a video on them would be a series of people with pretty average skill at the game just good luck beating the previous wr.
To clarify, the new engine is still Source, they just upgraded from Source 2004 to Source 2007 which offers better movement, more lighting tricks, more GPU usage and better multiplayer integration.
So technically Old Engine and New Engine _should_ be called 2004 and 2007, but I'm just a nerd with far too much Valve knowledge for his own good, sooo
Kapin #1801 Thanks for your knowledge
This whole series is awesome and I hope you can keep making more of these for years to come :]
I'm enjoying listing to these speed run videos more and more, I hope he keeps it up.
Bruh, current WR at 42:02 as per Aug 26 2023
You see, this video really fucked me up.
Last night i was incredibly stoned, i doubled up on my regular dose of edibles, and watched this video while lost in some weird-ass trip through space
Oh my, next morning i wake up and the video is gone. I can very faintly remember some parts of it, but i have no idea what game was the video about or when was it uploaded.
I thought i had travelled to a parallel dimension where this video hadn't been uploaded.
And im having lunch and here it is, reuploaded.
Good shit 💯
Man, I really want some of that stuff you're smoking! xD
Wtf
Customer Cassette. You've created a Resonance Cascade, now we wait for the combine.
Now we wait for our future to be disconfirmed.
He didn't smoke anything.
Hey man I love your vids ahahah!!!!! Its so interesting! I was wondering if you would ever do ocarina of time speed runs or any pokemon speed runs progression?
Really amazing work. These must be so tedious to create! Hats off!
Makes me really really want to see a video from you on Halo speedrunning
It would be fun if you ever did a supplemental to one of your vids going over the history since you made the first one.
I like how in some games' world record battles it's a matter of milliseconds and others it's like "I took 10 mins off the world record lol"
A couple days ago maltemller broke the sub 50 minute pace in the "no voidclip" any% category :)
as of this comment, the record now held by maltemller at 40m 42s! That's more than 5 minutes faster than second place, so he must be exceptional. chili_n_such is 9th place with the last run shown in this video, raintnt and deathwingua are both top 5. Wonder how they've saved so much time, would love for SS to revisit these much lower records
Thanks, I very much enjoyed this! But I also have to say that this is the one Summoning Salt video that cries out for a sequel the most. Partly because of the insane progress the WR made after this, partly because you refined your narrative skills so much more in the meantime. Would love to see many of the tricks and skips explained, that came up a little bit short here. (Also needs Patricia Taxxon in the Soundtrack!)
I'm a simple man. The Salt Summons me and I press like.
shh