BRONZE LEAGUE HEROES 155: DAT ECONOMIC HARASS

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  • The working class is under attack, as both players can't help but target the fragile, tiny economy of their opponent. At some point someone must seize the memes of production.
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ความคิดเห็น • 152

  • @sfukuda512
    @sfukuda512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    The best part was when Victor tried to push the Colossi with medi-vacs. That's some quality air superiority.

    • @ohlookitisacat7404
      @ohlookitisacat7404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And then he went to the forum and complain about Protoss OP.

  • @jacobw3652
    @jacobw3652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Holy shit, wasn't expecting to see winter cast a game with me playing. Didn't realize I lost that many probes, surprised I won at all.

    • @jinkim96
      @jinkim96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You sir, are the bronze league hero we don't deserve, but certainly one that we need

    • @ChoTinY
      @ChoTinY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jacob watts wanna play sometime

    • @gsgaming6976
      @gsgaming6976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll be honest bro, I was cheering for the other dude just because he was trying so hard with so little.
      Well, and also I main Terran and vs protoss is by far by worst matchup xD.
      But gg and grats on the win and getting it featured lol. Must have felt surreal.

  • @Dusk-MTG
    @Dusk-MTG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Nice game, loved it.
    Also, the only thing standing between Victor and Diamond league is the SCV button.

    • @godonomas
      @godonomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Pretty sure the word you are looking for is siege tanks.

    • @NuminorChanel
      @NuminorChanel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@godonomas it's two words

    • @thekinghmimidou7001
      @thekinghmimidou7001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rodolfo Hernandez you’re kidding rigth? tank vs toss doesn’t work

    • @ShroomBois_Inc
      @ShroomBois_Inc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      theking hmimidou uh no tanks are very good against toss

    • @thekinghmimidou7001
      @thekinghmimidou7001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top Guy can you explain unless your opponent his mass stalker you’ll always loose(and even then he can blink on top of your tank)zealot draw friendly fire,are tanks and spread with charade to negate splash they also close in the distance very quickly,immortal doesn’t die and blast tank out of existence, archon are even more tanks. just look at how many siege tank shot it take to kill an archon.

  • @DavidFlrczk
    @DavidFlrczk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    That ninja factory at the beggining though.
    Also, if only Victor knew that he doesn't have to be sieged to attack colossi with liberators

    • @peterni2234
      @peterni2234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David.Florczak, my goodness what an idea, I forgot all about it’s missile pods

    • @DavidFlrczk
      @DavidFlrczk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterni2234 are you VictorCherns?

    • @peterni2234
      @peterni2234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      David.Florczak, no

    • @estellebright2579
      @estellebright2579 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But pillow fight is... well, not that ideal.

  • @Gapeagle
    @Gapeagle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    2:26 Flight of the Factories

  • @colinmiller9941
    @colinmiller9941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "His army looks like an army one would have"
    My sides... I dont know why that was so funny to me... but it made me almost choke on my drink. Well played Winter... well played

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Winter says the absolute funniest things sometimes. I love it!

    • @lennydean8090
      @lennydean8090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did he say that

    • @narmale
      @narmale ปีที่แล้ว

      same xD

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Every day I gain more hope of the new heroes being featured on this channel. Love the video

  • @jacobkemp7050
    @jacobkemp7050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I guarantee there was a protoss op post after this game going something like "I had way more apm, better micro, and lost to a death Ball".

  • @joaopadua7134
    @joaopadua7134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Casorus: gonna send a probe to scout maybe delay his racks
    Winter: how about a full police novel

  • @enjuakahoshich.6982
    @enjuakahoshich.6982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "He may not have downloaded the minimap dlc" i fucken died

  • @konstantinstepanov5461
    @konstantinstepanov5461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "most high level low level play" truer words havent been spoken :D

  • @Pineapple-Lord
    @Pineapple-Lord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listen to these vids at my big boy job, thank you for helping the day go by

  • @mozxz
    @mozxz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Winther is really pumping these out a lot lately, not that I'm complaining, it's 95% of the reason why I'm subscribed in the first place.

    • @FFtprivate
      @FFtprivate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everytime he releases a new group of blh replay packs. Myself and others throw a lot of replays his way. the biggest lull in blh is when he hasnt sent out new packs for judges. Glad you appreciate it.

  • @D3th6r4
    @D3th6r4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The BROOOONZE LEEEG HEERE OUSSSssssss is always the best part.
    Love you, Winter.

  • @JD867
    @JD867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Winter: "Liberators and tanks; name a more iconic combination!"
    Me: "Marines, Marauders, Medivacs."

  • @Choppytehbear1337
    @Choppytehbear1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Does anyone remember the name of the BLH video where I came down to an ultralisk and a viking fighting over a hatchery?

  • @ScreachHiensburg
    @ScreachHiensburg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a golden example of why macro is king. Victor did everything right but his production (as well as a time or two he just waltz his army into their deaths), and lost because of it.

  • @LucianDevine
    @LucianDevine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:55 I was hoping for a virgin joke of some sort. "The fight just kind of starts, like a couple of virgins knowing they have to do something, but not quite sure how."

  • @kungpochopedtuna
    @kungpochopedtuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    X files soundbyte at 3:58 ish made me snort with laughter brilliant

  • @jacobgirling7739
    @jacobgirling7739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    No way are these guys bronze-gold they gotta be plat+

    • @michaelbuckers
      @michaelbuckers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Bronze League Heroes is not about being bronze. It's about having the spirit of bronze.

    • @jacobgirling7739
      @jacobgirling7739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@michaelbuckers I know, he says most of the replays are from gold which is what made me thing these guys surely couldn't be

    • @PrototypeJoS
      @PrototypeJoS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they are in gold league

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jacob Girling youd be suprised how bad you are as well.

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree they were about as good as the plat players on angry coach. Better in some ways

  • @ryanlee849
    @ryanlee849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bread crumbs to find home omg 😂😂😂

  • @lukeclank8404
    @lukeclank8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One liberator away from defending from those colossi

  • @squiggzzz
    @squiggzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Finally no TvT

  • @Ep0pteia
    @Ep0pteia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, the way you comment games is epic!

  • @flibblefleep
    @flibblefleep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If that name''s a callout to Viktor Chernomyrdin and one of his famous quotes -- "We wanted to do better, but it turned out like always." -- then that's pretty apropos. Maybe I'm giving BLH too much credit though.

  • @condotiero860
    @condotiero860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was 400 IQ hold from terran.
    Like what the fuck!
    Is he even bronze?

    • @condotiero860
      @condotiero860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude what an absolute mad lad!
      He got so many probes!

  • @SigRho1429
    @SigRho1429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bronze League Heroes is the MXC of e-sports.

  • @rozmarinideas5340
    @rozmarinideas5340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour Archons?

  • @spes9850401
    @spes9850401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Casorus despite losing 41 probes still has a worker lead
    Why would that happen lol

  • @jackcaffrey8493
    @jackcaffrey8493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT INTRO!

  • @ironsilk6438
    @ironsilk6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One twentieth of a hundred out of one twentieth of a hundred stars!

  • @12321dantheman
    @12321dantheman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    micro-ing 2 marines against cannons lol. Some people are just way too aggressive

  • @MrLincoln87
    @MrLincoln87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That game was actually fun to watch... convinced me enough to actually re-download SCII. Lets see if i can be worthy of BLH myself!

  • @UBik0013
    @UBik0013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    much more entertaining than the 1hr+ tortures TBH

    • @speedfastman
      @speedfastman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1hr+ vids are way better. They're like cock and ball torture. 😍

  • @1MicrosoftCPU
    @1MicrosoftCPU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    15:15 this isn’t bronze
    It’s like top-tier silver almost gold

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1MicrosoftCPU dude... it isnt bronze only. its the spirit of being bronze. this game was bronze-gold.

    • @supermalevitality1187
      @supermalevitality1187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bruh we've had literal GM games in this series before this isn't new

    • @ndclub67
      @ndclub67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I too come in with the assumption that they are in bronze league. They are far better than I am and I am in mid/top silver.

    • @ndclub67
      @ndclub67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@supermalevitality1187 Kind of wish he would title the series differently or split it off into separate series.

    • @jacobw3652
      @jacobw3652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol this is diamond league. You are a lot worse than you think.

  • @tenou213
    @tenou213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was way better than expected. But still - more stuff wins.

  • @monkeybusiness673
    @monkeybusiness673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a game!

  • @grishy8203
    @grishy8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's actually amazing that this is bronze now. When I was in bronze in 2010, you would have never seen a double prong harass.

  • @mh1593
    @mh1593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well played by Victor.

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the best Bronze league plays I've seen.

  • @Thenineoh
    @Thenineoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terran player is pretty decent actually, would be a good player if he improved his macro. If he's kept playing since then he's probably plat-diamond

  • @djuraster
    @djuraster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dat harras tho

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredible

  • @aqua_pi
    @aqua_pi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wo winter looked up how to pronounce simulacrum :o this game has to be good

  • @TheHUEZOX
    @TheHUEZOX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im only 4 min in, but holy fuck! Are those really bronze players? Man theyre nothing like the ones ive met

  • @avesta1821
    @avesta1821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Came because of the thumbnail

  • @MajinSaha
    @MajinSaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already laugh from the title

  • @yjzhou1
    @yjzhou1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd tap that harass

  • @cedarsapling
    @cedarsapling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I've had games like this deep into gold.. either things have gotten a lot more competitive around bronze, or a lot less competitive around gold, or bronze is truly this strange of a place.

  • @gradlinho
    @gradlinho 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like and Sub cause of the videotitle

  • @TheGuruStud
    @TheGuruStud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bio against lasers...yeah...that's gonna be a no from me, dawg.

  • @peter20arthas
    @peter20arthas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone tell me the soundtrack starting at 10:55?

  • @ianwhitchurch864
    @ianwhitchurch864 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More stuff beats less stuff.

    • @thekinghmimidou7001
      @thekinghmimidou7001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ian Whitchurch they had the same army supply

    • @ShroomBois_Inc
      @ShroomBois_Inc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      theking hmimidou but they did not have the same worker counts

    • @thekinghmimidou7001
      @thekinghmimidou7001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShroomBois_Inc the worker count was pretty much even and mules make up for that difference. in the first decisive figth they had same army supply.

  • @ohlookitisacat7404
    @ohlookitisacat7404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:30 what is the point of Thermal Lance if you are just gonna headbutt the PF at close range, lol.

  • @ltjackal8360
    @ltjackal8360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat thumnail tho

  • @zergotkhaled8257
    @zergotkhaled8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good game feome both players

  • @captainmccuckin2698
    @captainmccuckin2698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see some day a hero to become a pro

  • @erytroxylon
    @erytroxylon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just felt like your every day match on the ladder. Both players played pretty well IMO. I sure miss the old days of BLH !
    : Remember the home depot video ? The "don't slime me bro" video ? The guy that raised his TPM co cover the entire map?

  • @Rekthief
    @Rekthief 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blizzard should make a WOOD League for elementary school players

  • @fmerl3908
    @fmerl3908 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait, bronze heroes is not about actually being in bronze? fuck i could have sent my dumb replays?

  • @lukeclank8404
    @lukeclank8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t believe he didn’t win

  • @nwbaldi
    @nwbaldi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of a general question, but why don’t more players (specifically higher up players) just make one Raven to poke around your bases instead of sacrificing mule after mule for scans? I know gas is more valuable but it still seems like a bad trade

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nwbaldi well a raven would never make it.

    • @TheGuruStud
      @TheGuruStud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      B/c ravens are useless, duh! (until they lose to mass raven then rage about it being OP and trash build)

    • @pitju99
      @pitju99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a fair question, since in thst matchup, Protoss can just hallucinate a Pheonix for energy or send a way cheaper unit, observer, that is also invisible (even if you scan it, it comes with the loss of a mule). Probably contributes to the meta of Terrans constantly harassing/2 base all ining toss since that's the easiest way to scout, while "having units" is a pretty good counter too to most things your opponent can throw at you.

    • @pitju99
      @pitju99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tegridy Farms I get what you're saying, my observations were mostly on a philosophical level, though. Timing attacks are very similar to all ins in the way that you sacrifice some economy for earlier pressure. If you execute it poorly/opponent defends well, you are still gonna get a significant economic disadvantage (which we could argue is aleady a debatable point, whether Toss has it or not in PvT). Timings are super common in the matchup and take up a large % of the games. Pro and ex-pro terrans like BeastyQT have explained this several times, it's not ideal game design if your best bet at the very professional level is to end the game as soon as possible (yeah, why not proxies you may ask? it's too much risk for most players to do regularly, hence being cheese). Your point that "Terran army is strongest at that point" is also valid; simply because after that, Protoss can get a better economy with a superior army composition(tons of splash). Regarding your "Reaper scouting point: There's a reason it's called a photographer, has very little use besides scouting or zealot maxpax. Meanwhile: a sentry can hallucinate multiple pheonixes over time, scout way more consistently, and the sentry can actually be a part of the army, rather than practically losing its purpose eventually like the Reaper.

    • @pitju99
      @pitju99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tegridy Farms Oh I'm sure Beastie has some controversial statements, but I actually think he has fair points sometimes. Diversity in openers has been getting more and more stale to my knowledge as the meta is being figured out and less (and less impactful) changes are being made to the game. By this time, you can probably tell I'm just a Twitch chat GM and almost never play, so I'm not even gonna pretend I'm not :D. Thanks for enlightening me about the nature of timing attacks, never took super close attention to that, it would have just made sense in my mind that they sacrifice economy or production to do that, using the Zerg mentality (I rarely ever play Terran). In Terms of TvP balance, yeah I agree, it's probably the most balanced it has ever been, but there could still be improvements for sure, especially so that it would *feel* more fair for Terrans (less reliance on fights that just intantly end the game in case of mismicro; though that might just be the fast paced legacy of the void and spellcasting nature of SC, might not be fixable, but it could be less punishing IMO). The dominance of splash damage in the matchup makes better Terran pros drop out to lesser Protosses, because it's easy to mismicro and lose.. might be the reason why this "PvT imba" mentality is so widespread, as Terrans constantly try to justify with tournament results (certain 1v1s).

  • @shadowraiderx
    @shadowraiderx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sanity for the day!

  • @edh6532
    @edh6532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im here

    • @alexproductions5148
      @alexproductions5148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      congrats

    • @edh6532
      @edh6532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexproductions5148 you're welcome (:

  • @gryffendeur
    @gryffendeur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been playing BHG mod in 1v4 bot ( Trying atm my best to win vs 4 cheater 3 bots ) for about 6 month on BGH map and i'm wondering if i could win some ladder game without any more training after seeing games like that ( in multiplayer BHG i happen to be the last survivor and stay alive for a long and sometimes even win with enough macro ), what are your thought guys ?

  • @zaubergarden6900
    @zaubergarden6900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    are there no Zerg in bronze?

    • @ericandruszko7563
      @ericandruszko7563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Legit, most new players I've talked to think Z is too hard. They'd rather play an "easier" race.
      But yes, for whatever reason, be it the one I hear most or another, there seems to be very few Zergs in bronze. I off-race as T once in a forever, and I'm horrible at it, so I'm bronze with that, and I almost never see Z. Even in my division, there's just 4, last I checked.

    • @devonowens3652
      @devonowens3652 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 things to this, #1 Zerg is alot of fun, i am mainly Z, however most new players cant learn the game and have the naturally higher APM that it requires. #2 bronze league hero's is anything from actual bronze players to Plat players. its not their rank that makes it this title its the way they play, as in not building an Economy behind good harass, or not being looking at your mini map so on so forth. Granted my games would probably go into these videos so i cant say much myself about their game play, just how Winter does his Bronze league hero's series

    • @ShroomBois_Inc
      @ShroomBois_Inc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      zaubergarden I don’t exactly remember where but if I think in one of lowkos videos he went over that zerg is harder to start off with but once you get it it’s way easier to get into the mid tier ranks because Zerg plays so much different than Protoss or Terran

  • @kameqblindweaver8296
    @kameqblindweaver8296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protoss BLH is the best fuckin thing
    Disagree if you want, but you're wrong

  • @theweaselplays
    @theweaselplays 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How the shit does mine visibility work now ?

  • @mastertainment116
    @mastertainment116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I be apart of Bronze League Heroes? I have been stuck in Bronze league for 3 months and I have tons of recordings of me getting destroyed after a hard fought 30 minute game.

  • @HungTran-gz5em
    @HungTran-gz5em 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commenting for my boy to fight the algorithm

  • @manithierry-mieg7600
    @manithierry-mieg7600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OOOH MAN! This terran is so good! Look at his medivc multitask while spending his money?What is he doing in bronze league?

  • @You-ul8qw
    @You-ul8qw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What am I watching... is this reynor playing as terran vs scarlett playing as protoss?

  • @trueflamexp7297
    @trueflamexp7297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    BLH🥉

  • @Tary88
    @Tary88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was rooting for Victor but alas the hero went down.

  • @XenoDeki
    @XenoDeki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I know why it's bronze... lmaoo

  • @stefanalenius
    @stefanalenius 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing... and cringeworthy!

  • @jacobgirling7739
    @jacobgirling7739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woo toss

  • @torbaz5930
    @torbaz5930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    g

  • @phealtalk
    @phealtalk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how old is this

  • @lukeclank8404
    @lukeclank8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to be victor I hate being in gold it’s bad without the glamour of bronze league matches

  • @jesusmora9379
    @jesusmora9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    victor: what are tanks?

  • @zycInPantheon
    @zycInPantheon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    uwu

  • @TeMrN1
    @TeMrN1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys are not bronze... lol

  • @richardbutton1179
    @richardbutton1179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At what point do you make cannons so you dont have to have your army going back and forth? Good grief a couple of cannons at each base would have stopped those drops. I dont understand why Pro players dont do this.