I want Alex to do a lifecycle analysis on EVERY single last component in that laptop on the main channel. It might be an hour long, but I'd love to see it...
Really appreciate the tear-down and "repairness" segments in these reviews. Thanks. Only thing I'd ask for is some kind of supported life statement on stuff like this. These things would look really good in the "corporate sustainability" section of an annual report.
@@morosis82 Yeah, while we're at it, burning fossil fuels to turn the heat into electricity is an incredibly wasteful process as-is, unlike many of the existing forms of clean energy. Anything that involves absorbing heat to turn it into any other form of energy in general is wasteful.
Recycled ≠ eco-friendly. REDUCE and RE-USE come before recycle. Being built to last and/or upgradeable, like the Framework laptop, makes much more of an impact.
Part of the marketing is that it's upgradable? But they only mention that it has standard screws, so.... Edit: Finished the video, they definitely could've gone further with repair/upgradability if they just used more of the internal space.
Recycled is not necessary eco-friendly but it's not like they did a a e-waste with recycled material, they made a good low tier pc with recycled material, upgradable and that can be repaired so it is going toward the eco-friendly side (not like fairphone that is straight unusable 2 year down the line because its already obsolete)
@@32krod The Framework laptop is designed so that it's mainboard can be replaced, eventually I hope that even with 3rd party ones. RAM upgradeability isn't full upgradeability. If they can keep the screen and other components out of the landfill for a couple more years it's a much greater effect.
To everyone complaining about how its eco-friendliness isn't enough, bear in mind that a giant corporation like Acer can't just change overnight. Like it or not, it has shareholders that don't give a damn about the environment, they only care about the bottom line. Do not hate on gradual change because it is not instant change. If a couple years from now this turns out to be a token gesture at being eco-friendly when the rest of their line shows no change, then yes, Acer is not eco-friendly. If this is the first of many small steps in the right direction, then kudos for Acer, and keep it up!
We should be demanding more from companies, no matter the shareholders. It's not our job to find a compromise, it's Acer's. However, this laptop is quite good in regards to its eco-friendliness and if they had a replaceable keyboard and less packaging, it'd be perfect (in an eco-friendly sense).
@@leonro I agree we should demand more, but demanding more does not mean demeaning an effort that falls short of what we think is the ultimate ideal. Acer made a solid effort, and that's fantastic. Now they need to keep improving on it and start implementing similar and better measures throughout their line.
I especially like the packaging. Most of that can be used everywhere to cut down on plastic without compromising the quality. Not everyone might want to get rid of Aluminium chassis, but there is also no need to wrap it all in 3 layers of plastic bags. Btw. shoutout to Oculus (and anyone else doing this) for doing 0% plastic packaging too (like the cable wrapped in paper etc.).
@@korn6657 absolutely they could have and should have. Not a reason to reject the fact they have made an effort now. Just like people, a business will always be a work in progress. None of us start perfect, or end perfect, but hopefully we end up closer than what we started. The only way anything ever gets done in this world is gradual change. Vocal dissenters to this gradual change, for who nothing is acceptable but immediate perfection are the biggest obstacle to change, because why should I make that small improvement when I will only be hated for not making an even bigger one?
My experience with Acer has been that they are really good bang for the buck, and easily upgrade-able. I am rocking a 2012 aspire v3 that packaged with 2nd gen i3, and I was able to easily upgrade to 2nd gen i7, upgraded RAM and swapped my hdd for ssd, and replacing the keyboard was a breeze. They also support 2 storage drives. I love it so much that I picked up an identical twin on ebay a couple years ago and performed the same mods. Now I have 2 of them, one being my home laptop, and the other, I travel with. To this day, they both still perform very well, with no issues. They aren't super gaming computers or anything, but they are very decent and do everything I need them to do with ease.
@@blazebluebass US Keyboard is awesome. I could never go back to the layout my country uses. Just use US International as keyboard setting and you're good to go
0:36 absolutely love that mention there. It is good if recycling these items, or making them doesn't hurt nature, if it hurts more to recycle than to make new, then that's not much good. So, 1. Recyclers must use environment friendly recycling methods and develop such technologies. 2. The new or recycled product must not hurt nature. If these two aren't met, then the "recycled" becomes a word used for marketing and to deceive people that they are helping the planet....
I am a longtime ace user and still so happy that i made the right choice 6 years ago. My laptop is working like a charm, although it is so old. And easy to repair as well.
i mean it a tank, but in a good way. Although mine seams cheap there is no flex for the keyboard, really modular (i even changed the Hinche) and easy to repair
Hello guys, up-vote the comment! So I bought this laptop, in my country Denmark the I5 model (Newest 11th gen, 1155g7) and 8gbs of ram 3200 mhz, 512gb nvme ssd was a good price, with the I7 / 16gb running a bit more. Hardware: 8 gigs can only be upgraded to 12. Im planning to do this. Just booting the laptop eats like 3-4gigs on windows 11 which it comes with only. Bloatware was not to bad, CPU usage on first boot was very low, or 0-3% most of the time, so good enough, the acer software I also didn't remove actually. It runs quit hot sadly. Even this tigerlake stuff is....not good for battery, and speaking about the I5 model...the IGPU is great. Performance is good, even in games with 60 FPS low settings. It also feels snappy to use etc, but heat is a problem/noisy fans under load. But its 100% silent when not doing much...ALSO! This pissed me off, but the exhaust (warm air) comes out on the top, instead of the sides, so it overheats if you close the lid and continue using the laptop with external monitor - Good thing you can turn off the screen on the laptop and get all things working that way in windows display settings...Also HDR works great on windows 11, no issues :) Build quality is also fine. There is no screen wobble on mine, which Alex had...I really worried about that too, but only the left hinge feels a bit loose, but else no wobble...So far. Anyway full plastic and it feels sturdy. Some deck flex for sure compared to aluminium chassis etc. In general im happy enough but I think battery is lacking, problems with heat when lid closed AND! also the so-so screen, also because of the amount of ports I like it, I wanted a laptop with ethernet/rj45 port, and only Lenovo and HP seems to have some laptops with that now a days besides acer. Anyway on battery size most in this price range used same 3-cell lithium 45-50 what hour battery or whatever its called. In general it was the best laptop for performance/hardware and stuff in my country as of end of 2021 in that price bracket. Many laptops has little ports, 256gb, the older I5 1135g7 etc, AND none offered 16gb...Also on the ram, the bios is very limited on these notebooks so no XMP, aka only 2667 MHz ram speed dual channel on my model... Oh also I opened it up to see what ram and ssd brand it was, Kingston nvme and Samsung ram. You just need a small plastic guitar pick to open it yes. Very easy, anyone can do it. Hope that helps, please up-vote the comment for others.
I am a sustainable packaging engineer, thanks for recognising dilemma I face every day. The difference between viable sustainability and feelgoodisms is a nuanced one.
Let me ask you this. Energy CAN be renewable potentially. The amount of energy it takes to make something could not possibly be more important than if the byproduct of that thing being a non-biodegradable substance that exists indefinitely on our planet (with a little toxic leaching for good measure). Therefore cardboard would essentially always be the more ecological answer over plastic.
ngl i feel that as long as it's not excessively packaged I'm chill because if the material itself is shit for the environment, at least there's less material to begin with
@@LordDRockMusic I am all for paper and bio material, but if you are picking sustainability based on what you wish is gonna happen and not what is actually happening you have already failed. Paper that ends up in a landfill will have more embodied carbon than plastic and it is still gonna exist in a landfill in 2,000 years as there is not enough moisture and gas flowing through that landfill for it to decompose. You can pull 1920s news papers put of landfills today and read them good as new. So if a product is being sold in a western market where the likelyhood that it is gonna end up in a river is low, then you should be considering plastics. I dont really have a problem with paper or plastic. They both have their issue and benefits. My biggest annoyance is product that use both like carded blisters and window boxes. Those are going in the trash and not being recycled Packaging right now is a battle ground for sustainability between, low carbon, zero plastics, and biodegradability. Rarely do you get a solution with all three. Everyone has a opinion on it. marketing, purchasing, quality, logistics, the EPA, the states, congress, the media and the consumer all love to tell me how to do my job, yet most dont even know packaging engineers exist. Its kinda funny.
@@TheJttv Yes paper might not decompose in landfills but you could still get rid of it easily if you wanted. It's not the same with plastic, unless you burn it
My first laptop way back was an Acer aspire and that was super easy to open for repairs and maintenance. So Acer has got that one covered for a while. Compared to my brothers HP that had to be completely disassembled for a simple dusting.
Not to mention that "recycled materials" doesn't mean "eco-friendly". You know what's more "eco-friendly" than recycling aluminium? Not needing to recycle it in the first place. "REDUCE" and "REUSE" come before "RECYCLE" for a reason. That makes the Framework laptop more "eco-friendly" than whatever garbage the big brands pump out.
@@swecreations Yeah, a lot of people don't seem to consider that paper is made from trees that are specifically grown to become paper. They don't just use random trees in the wild.
@@Kyle_116 Paper trees (as I like to call them) also tend to outgrow demand, meaning that the trees planted don't actually always end up all being used. Paper being a bad for the environment isn't an issue much anymore, and sometimes the call to "go green" by not using paper is misleading. It's not the paper itself that's really the problem, but say the transport and other means to delivering it.
It will never be normal if we don't give companies a reason to do it. Even if it's for publicity like with the pride flag thing, it's still better for everyone if we trick them into doing it.
Ive always loved my acer laptops.Cheap, but decent quality. Even before this they were fairly easily repaired. I daily drove an Acer Aspire 4810T for over 8 years from 2009 to 2018. I replaced batteries, heat pipes, storage, wifi chip, ports. The only reason i let it go was i broke the screen and the replacement was like150 bucks and i decided to stop using it.
That is true but what is most important is if it's worth for the price point and I believe it is as there are minimal compromises for a 700 dollar laptop
Honestly I have a similar acer myself, since I have my main desktop tower at home. Everything just works, it is a mid-tier laptop and it just runs and runs and makes what I want to do with it. I will use it until the end of its lifetime. The trackpad and the keyboard are a joy to use, probably the best features of the laptop. Among with the great UI. The only big downside I saw on the video I personally have was the display. I don't know, I feel that the display on my Acer is better. That's the one that has to fulfill minimal requirements for me, since you want to work on it and consume media with it. I wish they would've fitted it with a better display. Though I am very happy with the one my unit has here, so idk.
PS: Oh yes, I remember. The colors (he mentioned the greens, yes I think it was the greens) were really a bit off and you could see it. I had to install another color profile. Windows has the options to install color profiles for your display. There was one on the internet that corrected the colors and now it looks really fine. So it's true, I had to do a bit to fix my display, but now it's pretty good.
Here is a thought, that recycled plastic looks like an amazing feeling, I am not an eco nut but if that laptop feels as good as it looks, maybe recycled plastic would be good intermediary material for laptops between virgin plastic and Aluminum.
This smells a lot like green washing to me. I mean come on non of the really problematic materials like battery and PCB seem to be recycled, just the chassis.
This has incredible potential, that chassis looks absolutely stunning imo, if they made it with 16:10. Do a ryzen version WITH radeon rx mobile chips, give it a better screen (doesn't need to be extreme) and a bigger battery. Perhaps hdmi 2.1. Then I'm down. I would buy that in a heart beat. Like a ryzen 5800, radeon 6600m and lets say a 83wah battery. A stronger hinge so it doesn't wobble that much... Than damn..
@@annurissimo1082 that's what I thought lmao HDMI 2.1 doesn't belong on anything like this yet. Ryzen would be nice, 16:10 would be nice, better screen would be nice, but that would bring it up a couple hundred I'd imagine. For $700 I feel like you're getting a lot of value out of it. edit: seeing the Amazon listing saying it's $900 is a bit of a bite into the value, Thunderbolt would have been a nice inclusion, but for the hardware you're getting out of it, it's definitely overpriced.
Sometimes I think I'm the only person that actually likes heavy laptops. I like my portable electrics weighty. Substantial feeling. I don't like laptops that feel like they can blow over if I switch my desk fan to high.
I spend my time In airplanes traveling from conference room to conference room and I definitely prefer thin and light. Otherwise my personal devices I don’t really care other than value
Acer has an aspire 7 that has very similar specs with a dGPU, that would explain the dual fans. The screen, wifi, I/O all are very similar as well. So this one could be a parts binned laptop which could reduce the cost too
Honestly, the PC that is the most eco-friendly is the one that doesn’t draw too much power when idle, but is powerful and nice enough that you’ll use it for a long time. My mom uses an iMac 2008 and it works fine.
I remember when I was a teenager, editing videos on Sony Vegas and thumbnails on Photoshop for TH-cam on a monitor my mam brought home from her job, good ol' 18 inch 1366x768 TN monitor, worked from 2011 to 2016 and was useful again when I used to stream and had it as my spotify/chat monitor
I love seeing a new Short Circuit video pop up on my feed. I never watch it right away. I like to wait an hour or two to see what the title to changes to.
Good point at the start there about plasticd not being bad in all cases. What all of this boils down to is that it's best to reduce our consumption than depend om recycling!
Alex, this is like the 6th entry in the saga of “the Dell XPS speakers are broken”, yeah the audio drivers for the XPS line on W11 is waves, it is the only way to make it sound good. Look up a guide, I’ve gotten Waves to sound super accurate and good and I have a XPS 17.
Thanks for the mini teardown at the end... Lots of important details there about their claims of it being repairable. I'm kind of sad this is considered repairable, when the keyboard is a frequent item people want to replace. But it does seem to be on the "more repairable then most now days" side.
Damn! It actually looks good! I would have been sold if it was amd. I guess they chose intel for less problems with windows 11, but still, those cores man!
I got an IdeaPad 5 for $429 at Costco. It has an 1135g7, 16gb ddr4 3200, decent battery, and good build quality IMO. If you're looking for a budget laptop that doesn't suck I would suggest to look for a sale on that laptop.
Acer saw Framework's impact and said "I want a bit of that". This is good. These companies will see that being sustainable + repairable SELLS more product. Now that Acer's done it, other brands will do the same.
Would be nice to see this kind of ethos on a truly high end device. I can get by on a mid spec phone and not really care, but when it comes to my laptop, I want features that this just doesn't have.
In my experience, they were pure junk. After the second one, I had finally learned my lesson. This one sounds like it is better, but oh Lord, I'm not going there again.
Acer designs are stuck in the 2000s. You can have so much better laptops for the same price range like say Lenovo. Im my experience as well they are very flimsy compared to their competitors. Buy something else other than an Acer.
@@GrimYak Where do you hear this , I've seen nothing but praise for their budget oriented laptops , albeit some cheaped out but fixable for not much cost.
I'm fine with recycled materials and eco friendly things, HOWEVER, this should never be the main selling point. The laptop is still a laptop first and foremost, it just happens to be made with eco friendly materials.
And it's a perfectly useable laptop. With the added benefit of being made partly from recycled materials. At its market range, why not make that it's main selling point? You're never going to get top of the line components, so why not market what might be unique. It's got easy reparability which I'm sure will please plenty of people.
Acer is garbage, the laptop's motherboard breaks every 3 months and the repair service will screw the pc even more which will break again right after the warranty and they will ask a repair price that cost more than the pc itself to repair. NEVER PURCHASE ACER = SCAM
I always wonder when a product has good repairability how easy is it to find and buy the parts. I think i does not matter how good the repairability is if you can not get the parts easily !
Liked the info you provided, you even disassembled the laptop to give a better understanding of the components and what can be replaced. Loved it, Thanks 👌🏻
I think Carboard is the better deal either way, It may take more energy but it does not contribute pollution after it is made, can be easily recycled and you can push for more cardboard to be made with renewables.
I mean i probably depends on how "clean" the frame is, if its 10 different plastics, its not gonna be easily recycled. The electronics themselves, apart from the battery, are actually recycleable as far as i know
@@08.nguyenthanhuc38 definitely the battery, the touchpad seems not to be easily recycled, pcbs cannot be recycled very well either, but at least to a certain degree so let's count that In their favour.
Cut/trim the supports in the empty areas and slap a huge battery in there with double sided tape so it don't move around. Replace windows 11 for 10 until 11 is fully optimized. Sold!
Rare to actually switch out KB only. The whoel top-case is usually replaced. It takes FOREVER to change KB only on the laptops you can. Im a repair tech and i rather have it this way with recycled plastic and change the whole thing than it to become e-waste for not being replacable at all
I just bought the model after this one (i5-1235U) which is currently behind the latest 2023 model - more or less the same design, different CPUs - bought it based on the review of this video - just as it says on the box, nothing super spectacular, basically middle of the road in everything. just like the owner. ex-demo model for only $400USD, has about 4hr battery life as a result. but can always upgrade it later...thanks!
I wonder if instead of replacing the keyboard. They would allow a new chassis and then swapping all the parts over. Probably more expensive than just a keyboard, but would still allow some sort of replacement by pulling the entire laptop apart
wouldn't aluminum chassies be more recyclable? It's not like most metals are advertised as recycled, but most foundries probably prefer recycling aluminum instead of going through the more costly mining and refining process. Other laptops probably use recycled aluminum without even knowing it. IDK man looks like a marketing thing to cash on the current hype around this type of stuff
A large amount of aluminum is recycled, while plastics are largely thrown away. It's good that they're demonstrating that plastics can be recycled for commercial use however.
Why are you always so amazed at the feature "fingerprint reader wakes laptop"? My 2011 ThinkPad X220 did this. And it carried it to Windows (that is until I installed Linux).
What i can say is this laptop is not only easily upgradable but also modifiable in some way. However with that large free space inside the laptop I think Acer can put a second RAM slot into this laptop without worrying about increasing the thickness of the laptop.
When I see this I'm wondering Why it isn't more common ? I mean, pretty cheap, cool looking easily repairable AND not a shitload of screws and other machining things to do. Just tell me why
I think it's because recycling material is actually more expensive to produce with, do the pricing can be difficult. Too cheap, the profit would be slim(compared to regular plastic). To expensive, the laptop would be competing against metal chassis laptop.
partly i think is the lazy design layouting things so it won't interfere with screw placement is not hard but takes effort this goes with making it modular and so forth
I bough an Asus SCA laptop back in 2013. This chassis looks like the exact same laptop form factor. The port locations, the keyboard layout, the bouncy hinge. It looks like Asus is also recycling their chassis ideas, too.
Guess they don't plan to sell it in the regions with Cyrillic keyboards, given that cheesy "mirrored R E" gimmick, having two "Я" will get pretty confusing
i really like this steady move (albeit slow) towards more modular computer with recycled plastic and what have you but for the love of all things good, dial down the marketing I don't mind the online marketing but making the R and E to be yellow and flipped is a bit too much
Dude that's a solid lower mid-ranger. If I'm ever in need of a burner or a laptop to use as a server interface or something I'm gonna have to keep that in mind. I just realized nobody really uses burner laptops anymore. Burner phones still exist, but like... Nobody carries a burner laptop.
@@noneyabizz8337 then you got lucky, I have a 62% return rate on Acer devices, I've sold hundreds (begrudgingly). I've kept track after my first year in sales resulted in 19 returns with 22 sold by just me. I have always suggested against it. They would either return it in the 2 weeks with problems, or die within 2 months. Where I couldn't take it back(Not included in the 62%). They are literally the cheapest tech you can buy. I no longer work in retail and the place I'm at now bought 300 2 months before the pandemic, I've filled out 23 RMA forms in the first 2 months, They sat unplugged for 6 months, then have filled out 97 since. Trust me, you're lucky.
@@noneyabizz8337 in all honesty, the acers we're the only data I kept during my retail days because it was that absurd. However, we had to by students laptops for the pandemic for 1 to 1. We bought about 8500, I think we had 12 or 13 damaged in shipping, and the only RMAs I filled out were the 4 on my desk because I bricked them while trying to remotely push a bios update and 2 where the keyboards stoped working. But that's all so far.
Love that you're taking a look which parts are replaceable, but that doesn't really say much for non-standard parts without them being available for purchase. Like yes, having the trackpad removable is great, but if you can't actually buy a replacement, it's pretty meaningless.
I use it with linux and it works fine, the only problem is that the fingerprint reader does not have a driver for linux, so it works badly, but I already knew it before, what made me choose this one, is its attractive price here in Chile compared to the competition, overall a good buy for me
The real turn-off for me is really the screen quality and the screen wobble. My 3 year old Lenovo Yoga, with its sketchy 360 degree hinge doesn't wobble half as much as this....
I love that some more mainstream companies are at least trying to make repairable products. With framework on the scene now, as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse. I'm not expecting modular ports on everything but making the screen, battery, trackpad and keyboard easy to replace at least should be possible in most laptops.
Being eco friendly shouldn't be a plus, it should be a standard, and it shouldn't be a selling point... but anything with acer on it to me is subgrade especially for the price point and quality
Yeah, but it's not the standard, so until it becomes the standard we should give them props for it when it is eco friendly, until we get all the companies to do better.
DON'T BUY, you'll regret it. I have mine since 10 months and it's already falling appart. All the internal components are good, but the frame is the problem. This 'recycled" material, is was not properly tested. The left side of the hinge that connects the screen, is cracked and the frame that holds the screen is starting to fall apart on the same area. I never dropped it, my screen doesn't even have one scratch.
Interesting. My mother also has one, and her hinge also cracks in same place as yours. Also, it is covered by warranty, if yours is broken and you still have warranty, you can repair for free. My mother repaired it 2 times already under warranty
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I want Alex to do a lifecycle analysis on EVERY single last component in that laptop on the main channel. It might be an hour long, but I'd love to see it...
You mean likeeeee when someone eats too much chocolate cake?
You mean likeeeee when someone smokes too many cigarettes?
I’d watch every single one of those videos. All of them.
This would definitely be sick.
"I'm not going to do that"...but we want to see it.
Really appreciate the tear-down and "repairness" segments in these reviews.
Thanks.
Only thing I'd ask for is some kind of supported life statement on stuff like this.
These things would look really good in the "corporate sustainability" section of an annual report.
They are not really reviews.. only what is on the main channel is a truly a review :)
You mean repairability?
Exactly
Nice - Alex gets my like 'cos of the recognition of the dilemma we're facing when it comes to the packaging
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From my perspective, it's much easier to make clean energy than clean up plastic.
@@morosis82 Yeah, while we're at it, burning fossil fuels to turn the heat into electricity is an incredibly wasteful process as-is, unlike many of the existing forms of clean energy. Anything that involves absorbing heat to turn it into any other form of energy in general is wasteful.
@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 geothermal and solar: aight imma head out
@@WayStedYou Those don't count because we're not burning the thing ourselves.
Recycled ≠ eco-friendly. REDUCE and RE-USE come before recycle.
Being built to last and/or upgradeable, like the Framework laptop, makes much more of an impact.
I wouldn't complain so much except they put an un-replaceable 4-core in it. I mean come on. 4 cores.
Part of the marketing is that it's upgradable? But they only mention that it has standard screws, so....
Edit: Finished the video, they definitely could've gone further with repair/upgradability if they just used more of the internal space.
Recycled is not necessary eco-friendly but it's not like they did a a e-waste with recycled material, they made a good low tier pc with recycled material, upgradable and that can be repaired so it is going toward the eco-friendly side (not like fairphone that is straight unusable 2 year down the line because its already obsolete)
@@32krod The Framework laptop is designed so that it's mainboard can be replaced, eventually I hope that even with 3rd party ones. RAM upgradeability isn't full upgradeability. If they can keep the screen and other components out of the landfill for a couple more years it's a much greater effect.
Our economy isn't built for that
To everyone complaining about how its eco-friendliness isn't enough, bear in mind that a giant corporation like Acer can't just change overnight. Like it or not, it has shareholders that don't give a damn about the environment, they only care about the bottom line. Do not hate on gradual change because it is not instant change. If a couple years from now this turns out to be a token gesture at being eco-friendly when the rest of their line shows no change, then yes, Acer is not eco-friendly. If this is the first of many small steps in the right direction, then kudos for Acer, and keep it up!
We should be demanding more from companies, no matter the shareholders. It's not our job to find a compromise, it's Acer's.
However, this laptop is quite good in regards to its eco-friendliness and if they had a replaceable keyboard and less packaging, it'd be perfect (in an eco-friendly sense).
@@leonro I agree we should demand more, but demanding more does not mean demeaning an effort that falls short of what we think is the ultimate ideal. Acer made a solid effort, and that's fantastic. Now they need to keep improving on it and start implementing similar and better measures throughout their line.
I especially like the packaging. Most of that can be used everywhere to cut down on plastic without compromising the quality. Not everyone might want to get rid of Aluminium chassis, but there is also no need to wrap it all in 3 layers of plastic bags.
Btw. shoutout to Oculus (and anyone else doing this) for doing 0% plastic packaging too (like the cable wrapped in paper etc.).
To people like you, who try to sympatise and humanize big corporations, they are not your friend. They could have started the change a long time ago.
@@korn6657 absolutely they could have and should have. Not a reason to reject the fact they have made an effort now. Just like people, a business will always be a work in progress. None of us start perfect, or end perfect, but hopefully we end up closer than what we started. The only way anything ever gets done in this world is gradual change. Vocal dissenters to this gradual change, for who nothing is acceptable but immediate perfection are the biggest obstacle to change, because why should I make that small improvement when I will only be hated for not making an even bigger one?
My experience with Acer has been that they are really good bang for the buck, and easily upgrade-able. I am rocking a 2012 aspire v3 that packaged with 2nd gen i3, and I was able to easily upgrade to 2nd gen i7, upgraded RAM and swapped my hdd for ssd, and replacing the keyboard was a breeze. They also support 2 storage drives. I love it so much that I picked up an identical twin on ebay a couple years ago and performed the same mods. Now I have 2 of them, one being my home laptop, and the other, I travel with. To this day, they both still perform very well, with no issues. They aren't super gaming computers or anything, but they are very decent and do everything I need them to do with ease.
Title: "an eco friendly laptop that doesn't suck"
Framework: "Am I a joke to you?"
bruh they just changed it
Framework still only has US Keyboard Layout, so it sucks for most people.
@@blazebluebass US Keyboard is awesome. I could never go back to the layout my country uses. Just use US International as keyboard setting and you're good to go
@@phoenix0828 Nah, ISO is better
@@phoenix0828 I'm gonna have fun writing in French. Sacre bleu mes accents!
0:36 absolutely love that mention there.
It is good if recycling these items, or making them doesn't hurt nature,
if it hurts more to recycle than to make new, then that's not much good.
So,
1. Recyclers must use environment friendly recycling methods and develop such technologies.
2. The new or recycled product must not hurt nature.
If these two aren't met, then the "recycled" becomes a word used for marketing and to deceive people that they are helping the planet....
I am a longtime ace user and still so happy that i made the right choice 6 years ago. My laptop is working like a charm, although it is so old. And easy to repair as well.
i mean it a tank, but in a good way. Although mine seams cheap there is no flex for the keyboard, really modular (i even changed the Hinche) and easy to repair
Love that they are at least attempting a more repairable design! It's definitely not perfect but it's a start and makes a statement. Way to go Acer!
Hello guys, up-vote the comment! So I bought this laptop, in my country Denmark the I5 model (Newest 11th gen, 1155g7) and 8gbs of ram 3200 mhz, 512gb nvme ssd was a good price, with the I7 / 16gb running a bit more.
Hardware: 8 gigs can only be upgraded to 12. Im planning to do this. Just booting the laptop eats like 3-4gigs on windows 11 which it comes with only. Bloatware was not to bad, CPU usage on first boot was very low, or 0-3% most of the time, so good enough, the acer software I also didn't remove actually.
It runs quit hot sadly. Even this tigerlake stuff is....not good for battery, and speaking about the I5 model...the IGPU is great. Performance is good, even in games with 60 FPS low settings. It also feels snappy to use etc, but heat is a problem/noisy fans under load. But its 100% silent when not doing much...ALSO! This pissed me off, but the exhaust (warm air) comes out on the top, instead of the sides, so it overheats if you close the lid and continue using the laptop with external monitor - Good thing you can turn off the screen on the laptop and get all things working that way in windows display settings...Also HDR works great on windows 11, no issues :)
Build quality is also fine. There is no screen wobble on mine, which Alex had...I really worried about that too, but only the left hinge feels a bit loose, but else no wobble...So far. Anyway full plastic and it feels sturdy. Some deck flex for sure compared to aluminium chassis etc.
In general im happy enough but I think battery is lacking, problems with heat when lid closed AND! also the so-so screen, also because of the amount of ports I like it, I wanted a laptop with ethernet/rj45 port, and only Lenovo and HP seems to have some laptops with that now a days besides acer. Anyway on battery size most in this price range used same 3-cell lithium 45-50 what hour battery or whatever its called.
In general it was the best laptop for performance/hardware and stuff in my country as of end of 2021 in that price bracket. Many laptops has little ports, 256gb, the older I5 1135g7 etc, AND none offered 16gb...Also on the ram, the bios is very limited on these notebooks so no XMP, aka only 2667 MHz ram speed dual channel on my model...
Oh also I opened it up to see what ram and ssd brand it was, Kingston nvme and Samsung ram. You just need a small plastic guitar pick to open it yes. Very easy, anyone can do it.
Hope that helps, please up-vote the comment for others.
I am a sustainable packaging engineer, thanks for recognising dilemma I face every day. The difference between viable sustainability and feelgoodisms is a nuanced one.
Let me ask you this. Energy CAN be renewable potentially. The amount of energy it takes to make something could not possibly be more important than if the byproduct of that thing being a non-biodegradable substance that exists indefinitely on our planet (with a little toxic leaching for good measure). Therefore cardboard would essentially always be the more ecological answer over plastic.
ngl i feel that as long as it's not excessively packaged I'm chill
because if the material itself is shit for the environment, at least there's less material to begin with
@@LordDRockMusic I am all for paper and bio material, but if you are picking sustainability based on what you wish is gonna happen and not what is actually happening you have already failed. Paper that ends up in a landfill will have more embodied carbon than plastic and it is still gonna exist in a landfill in 2,000 years as there is not enough moisture and gas flowing through that landfill for it to decompose. You can pull 1920s news papers put of landfills today and read them good as new. So if a product is being sold in a western market where the likelyhood that it is gonna end up in a river is low, then you should be considering plastics.
I dont really have a problem with paper or plastic. They both have their issue and benefits. My biggest annoyance is product that use both like carded blisters and window boxes. Those are going in the trash and not being recycled
Packaging right now is a battle ground for sustainability between, low carbon, zero plastics, and biodegradability. Rarely do you get a solution with all three. Everyone has a opinion on it. marketing, purchasing, quality, logistics, the EPA, the states, congress, the media and the consumer all love to tell me how to do my job, yet most dont even know packaging engineers exist. Its kinda funny.
@@TheJttv wow that's insightful
@@TheJttv Yes paper might not decompose in landfills but you could still get rid of it easily if you wanted. It's not the same with plastic, unless you burn it
That's amazing how easily taken apart-able that laptop is. I hope more manufacturers go this way (more like framework).
Framework does a lot more than that, probably one of the most repairable modern laptops I've seen.
@@WednesdayMan Ofcourse, but this is the closest to a framework from a big brand I've seen in a while.
Idk why i read manufacturers as motherfuckers
You can take apart and repair Thinkpads, they’re not $700 though.
My first laptop way back was an Acer aspire and that was super easy to open for repairs and maintenance. So Acer has got that one covered for a while. Compared to my brothers HP that had to be completely disassembled for a simple dusting.
100% recyclable is impossible on these kinds of electronics. A high percentage yes, 100% no.
And that's just the materials. The process to produce these is just as impactful on the environment, regardless of the materials you're using.
Not to mention that "recycled materials" doesn't mean "eco-friendly". You know what's more "eco-friendly" than recycling aluminium? Not needing to recycle it in the first place.
"REDUCE" and "REUSE" come before "RECYCLE" for a reason. That makes the Framework laptop more "eco-friendly" than whatever garbage the big brands pump out.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart This one appears to be somewhat upgradable.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart But this is still better than regular 'garbage', as you say, laptops.
@@TD1237 Yes, yes, I'm just getting tired of all the "greenwashing" that brands do. "WE DID THE BARE MINIMUM! SHOWER US WITH PRAISE!"
"We're so eco friendly! Here are 20 pieces of paper that tells you how eco friendly we are!"
I mean atleast their laptop is easily repairable. That's way better than apple. :P
And paper is recyclable
Paper isn't bad for the environment. It regrows in a few years.
@@swecreations Yeah, a lot of people don't seem to consider that paper is made from trees that are specifically grown to become paper. They don't just use random trees in the wild.
@@Kyle_116 Paper trees (as I like to call them) also tend to outgrow demand, meaning that the trees planted don't actually always end up all being used. Paper being a bad for the environment isn't an issue much anymore, and sometimes the call to "go green" by not using paper is misleading. It's not the paper itself that's really the problem, but say the transport and other means to delivering it.
Man, Alex makes these videos so chill that I don't even care about the products.
This really shouldn't be considered exceptional.
This should be normal if we want this industry to have a chance at one day being sustainable.
Gotta start somewhere.
@@OsomoMojoFreak but shouldn't lower our standards either
It will never be normal if we don't give companies a reason to do it. Even if it's for publicity like with the pride flag thing, it's still better for everyone if we trick them into doing it.
@@kaldogorath thats pretty, gullible imo. They dont get tricked. You just giving them more of your money, thats why they do it
@@suppar8066 I'm not talking about buying it, I'm talking about praising it.
Acer: Our displays suck at displaying green so we should out green wallpaper on it.
Ive always loved my acer laptops.Cheap, but decent quality. Even before this they were fairly easily repaired. I daily drove an Acer Aspire 4810T for over 8 years from 2009 to 2018. I replaced batteries, heat pipes, storage, wifi chip, ports. The only reason i let it go was i broke the screen and the replacement was like150 bucks and i decided to stop using it.
the whole point of it not being a good laptop makes it e-waste either way is so damn true I wish more companies used it as a tagline
That is true but what is most important is if it's worth for the price point and I believe it is as there are minimal compromises for a 700 dollar laptop
Honestly I have a similar acer myself, since I have my main desktop tower at home. Everything just works, it is a mid-tier laptop and it just runs and runs and makes what I want to do with it. I will use it until the end of its lifetime.
The trackpad and the keyboard are a joy to use, probably the best features of the laptop. Among with the great UI.
The only big downside I saw on the video I personally have was the display. I don't know, I feel that the display on my Acer is better. That's the one that has to fulfill minimal requirements for me, since you want to work on it and consume media with it. I wish they would've fitted it with a better display. Though I am very happy with the one my unit has here, so idk.
PS: Oh yes, I remember. The colors (he mentioned the greens, yes I think it was the greens) were really a bit off and you could see it. I had to install another color profile. Windows has the options to install color profiles for your display. There was one on the internet that corrected the colors and now it looks really fine. So it's true, I had to do a bit to fix my display, but now it's pretty good.
@@IroAppe I also have a similar laptop and it's perfectly fine for my use.
Bringing attention to the ewaste problem will make people less likely to consoom stuff, which is a bad idea for companies.
Do you know what's more eco friendly?
A used laptop on ebay or craigslist.
yeah, especially for that kind of spec, a used laptop would probably meet that easily
I suppose, as long as you're willing to do the refurbishing work and make it good, then yeah it would be eco friendly.
Here is a thought, that recycled plastic looks like an amazing feeling, I am not an eco nut but if that laptop feels as good as it looks, maybe recycled plastic would be good intermediary material for laptops between virgin plastic and Aluminum.
The E and R being backwards was really messing with my head.
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I still don't understand. Is it a play on recycle? But why yellow then? And why backwards? Wtf?
@@StriveForLuck From Acer:
REduce, REuse, REcycle
Mirrored R and E keys reinforce the crucial message.
0:45 Some of us remember when we were fighting paper and cardboard use to reduce deforestation... 90s - earl 2000s
This smells a lot like green washing to me. I mean come on non of the really problematic materials like battery and PCB seem to be recycled, just the chassis.
They're the same batteries that come from other Acer laptops.
This has incredible potential, that chassis looks absolutely stunning imo, if they made it with 16:10. Do a ryzen version WITH radeon rx mobile chips, give it a better screen (doesn't need to be extreme) and a bigger battery. Perhaps hdmi 2.1. Then I'm down. I would buy that in a heart beat. Like a ryzen 5800, radeon 6600m and lets say a 83wah battery. A stronger hinge so it doesn't wobble that much... Than damn..
Acer Swift X fits that description somewhat. Similar laptop.
So... Turn a 700 dollar laptop into a 1700 dollar one? Daymn
@@annurissimo1082 that's what I thought lmao
HDMI 2.1 doesn't belong on anything like this yet. Ryzen would be nice, 16:10 would be nice, better screen would be nice, but that would bring it up a couple hundred I'd imagine. For $700 I feel like you're getting a lot of value out of it.
edit: seeing the Amazon listing saying it's $900 is a bit of a bite into the value, Thunderbolt would have been a nice inclusion, but for the hardware you're getting out of it, it's definitely overpriced.
Those chips basically don't exist
You just described a completely different laptop...
I actually really love those aesthetics. Something about that color with the plastic flecks is just good looking, almost nostalgic. Retro-futuristic?
I don't know if it was intended but the design and color give me distinct 90's tech vibes. I really like it.
Sometimes I think I'm the only person that actually likes heavy laptops. I like my portable electrics weighty. Substantial feeling. I don't like laptops that feel like they can blow over if I switch my desk fan to high.
some heft is nice but if it's too heavy no one is going to want to carry it around
I spend my time In airplanes traveling from conference room to conference room and I definitely prefer thin and light. Otherwise my personal devices I don’t really care other than value
I bought the i-5 model of this laptop and I love it!
Man, I wish I could afford a new laptop. I haven't been able to buy one in years.
I feel like a used MacBook is still the pinnacle of laptops lol
Acer has an aspire 7 that has very similar specs with a dGPU, that would explain the dual fans. The screen, wifi, I/O all are very similar as well. So this one could be a parts binned laptop which could reduce the cost too
Honestly, the PC that is the most eco-friendly is the one that doesn’t draw too much power when idle, but is powerful and nice enough that you’ll use it for a long time. My mom uses an iMac 2008 and it works fine.
Well. Production is the biggest contributor to CO2-emissions
The most eco-friendly whatever is the one that you already own... Morr often than not, at least, unless you somehow own a private jet from the 70s
I remember when I was a teenager, editing videos on Sony Vegas and thumbnails on Photoshop for TH-cam on a monitor my mam brought home from her job, good ol' 18 inch 1366x768 TN monitor, worked from 2011 to 2016 and was useful again when I used to stream and had it as my spotify/chat monitor
The backwards E and R keys would drive me insane
I love seeing a new Short Circuit video pop up on my feed. I never watch it right away. I like to wait an hour or two to see what the title to changes to.
This is somehow the best video creator ever. I love listening to him talk.!
Good point at the start there about plasticd not being bad in all cases.
What all of this boils down to is that it's best to reduce our consumption than depend om recycling!
Alex, this is like the 6th entry in the saga of “the Dell XPS speakers are broken”, yeah the audio drivers for the XPS line on W11 is waves, it is the only way to make it sound good. Look up a guide, I’ve gotten Waves to sound super accurate and good and I have a XPS 17.
Thanks for the mini teardown at the end... Lots of important details there about their claims of it being repairable. I'm kind of sad this is considered repairable, when the keyboard is a frequent item people want to replace. But it does seem to be on the "more repairable then most now days" side.
Damn! It actually looks good! I would have been sold if it was amd. I guess they chose intel for less problems with windows 11, but still, those cores man!
Used one of these for the last 6 months and it's great, Im a big fan of how solid it feels compared to most other
Very impressive I/O for a laptop today
I got an IdeaPad 5 for $429 at Costco. It has an 1135g7, 16gb ddr4 3200, decent battery, and good build quality IMO. If you're looking for a budget laptop that doesn't suck I would suggest to look for a sale on that laptop.
Love Short Circuit, but hate the laptop flex tests being done on top of a squishy mousepad!
I have a trackpad and trackpoint and I like both.
Acer saw Framework's impact and said "I want a bit of that". This is good. These companies will see that being sustainable + repairable SELLS more product. Now that Acer's done it, other brands will do the same.
Would be nice to see this kind of ethos on a truly high end device. I can get by on a mid spec phone and not really care, but when it comes to my laptop, I want features that this just doesn't have.
Acer is the best low-end brand in my experience. They have a good sense of what a laptop can do without.
In my experience, they were pure junk. After the second one, I had finally learned my lesson. This one sounds like it is better, but oh Lord, I'm not going there again.
They tend release no-frills laptops that just get the job done.
I have the acer aspire at 46 gl 14k which is this same chassis except aluminum and plastic with a ryzen 3350u
Acer designs are stuck in the 2000s. You can have so much better laptops for the same price range like say Lenovo. Im my experience as well they are very flimsy compared to their competitors. Buy something else other than an Acer.
@@GrimYak Where do you hear this , I've seen nothing but praise for their budget oriented laptops , albeit some cheaped out but fixable for not much cost.
The texture and color scheme of that laptop are awesome. If I could get that finish on a 2-in-1, I'd pay extra for it.
I'm fine with recycled materials and eco friendly things, HOWEVER, this should never be the main selling point. The laptop is still a laptop first and foremost, it just happens to be made with eco friendly materials.
Nerd. Just get a MacBook if you wanna be so picky.
And it's a perfectly useable laptop. With the added benefit of being made partly from recycled materials. At its market range, why not make that it's main selling point? You're never going to get top of the line components, so why not market what might be unique. It's got easy reparability which I'm sure will please plenty of people.
@@arushh42 I got one, 2015 model, that I bought used. So yeah. I did eco friendly before it was buzzwords.
@@sameermohideen4913 except there's better laptops for this price range, with the same repairability
Acer is garbage, the laptop's motherboard breaks every 3 months and the repair service will screw the pc even more which will break again right after the warranty and they will ask a repair price that cost more than the pc itself to repair.
NEVER PURCHASE ACER = SCAM
This is my first ever laptop, and I was curious about hat people thought of it.
Pretty cool!
I always wonder when a product has good repairability how easy is it to find and buy the parts.
I think i does not matter how good the repairability is if you can not get the parts easily !
i legit just got an E15 Gen3, if i would have known this exists a bit earlier i would have bought this instead. love it
Alex: Give it a stroke Jono
Me: **smiles**
Jono: **no reaction**
Me: Sus
Jono: Oooouuuuuuuuhh
Me: **chokes on food**
Alex doing latoptop reviews is super calming and probably my favorite part of LTT right now, I just put the videos on while I do my homework.
Liked the info you provided, you even disassembled the laptop to give a better understanding of the components and what can be replaced. Loved it, Thanks 👌🏻
I think Carboard is the better deal either way, It may take more energy but it does not contribute pollution after it is made, can be easily recycled and you can push for more cardboard to be made with renewables.
I appreciate the effort, but isn’t it damn near impossible to do a fully recyclable laptop?
I mean i probably depends on how "clean" the frame is, if its 10 different plastics, its not gonna be easily recycled. The electronics themselves, apart from the battery, are actually recycleable as far as i know
Do you know which part is not recyclable?
@@08.nguyenthanhuc38 That’s why I’m asking, but Alex already expressed doubt about the touchpad.
@@08.nguyenthanhuc38 definitely the battery, the touchpad seems not to be easily recycled, pcbs cannot be recycled very well either, but at least to a certain degree so let's count that In their favour.
Cut/trim the supports in the empty areas and slap a huge battery in there with double sided tape so it don't move around. Replace windows 11 for 10 until 11 is fully optimized. Sold!
Rare to actually switch out KB only. The whoel top-case is usually replaced. It takes FOREVER to change KB only on the laptops you can. Im a repair tech and i rather have it this way with recycled plastic and change the whole thing than it to become e-waste for not being replacable at all
It depends, look at replaceable keyboards on older laptops, they don't need the keyboard replaced.
The color reminds me of the original game boy love the look
I'm super happy to see this product. If I wasn't waiting for a Framework this would be a good second option!
I just bought the model after this one (i5-1235U) which is currently behind the latest 2023 model - more or less the same design, different CPUs - bought it based on the review of this video - just as it says on the box, nothing super spectacular, basically middle of the road in everything. just like the owner. ex-demo model for only $400USD, has about 4hr battery life as a result. but can always upgrade it later...thanks!
Why do they keep testing laptop chassis flex on top of a desk pad
Because it doesnt matter?
I wonder if instead of replacing the keyboard. They would allow a new chassis and then swapping all the parts over. Probably more expensive than just a keyboard, but would still allow some sort of replacement by pulling the entire laptop apart
wouldn't aluminum chassies be more recyclable? It's not like most metals are advertised as recycled, but most foundries probably prefer recycling aluminum instead of going through the more costly mining and refining process. Other laptops probably use recycled aluminum without even knowing it. IDK man looks like a marketing thing to cash on the current hype around this type of stuff
A large amount of aluminum is recycled, while plastics are largely thrown away. It's good that they're demonstrating that plastics can be recycled for commercial use however.
yes but this should at least be able to demonstrate that plastic can be recycled for commercial purposes, which is a good thing.
5:45 Norton bloatware decides its about time to step in...
They gotta get some money in, look at asus they are even worse.
Why are you always so amazed at the feature "fingerprint reader wakes laptop"? My 2011 ThinkPad X220 did this. And it carried it to Windows (that is until I installed Linux).
What i can say is this laptop is not only easily upgradable but also modifiable in some way. However with that large free space inside the laptop I think Acer can put a second RAM slot into this laptop without worrying about increasing the thickness of the laptop.
When I see this I'm wondering
Why it isn't more common ?
I mean, pretty cheap, cool looking easily repairable AND not a shitload of screws and other machining things to do.
Just tell me why
I think it's because recycling material is actually more expensive to produce with, do the pricing can be difficult. Too cheap, the profit would be slim(compared to regular plastic). To expensive, the laptop would be competing against metal chassis laptop.
partly i think is the lazy design
layouting things so it won't interfere with screw placement is not hard but takes effort
this goes with making it modular and so forth
Pretty cheap? Doesn't this cost 700?
@@aaronprimus1300 it's no 2000$ mac book
definitely on the cheap side of midrange
That is a mode of making a good review. Great review man.
Acer: this product is good for the planet
Also Acer: *throws in a bunch of useless paperwork and packaging that will immediately go in the trash*
All paper documentation can be summed in a video o PDF downloadable through a QR code printed in the box.
For any company
Yes, the Win 11 update can break the audio driver on the XPS's
Damn, the music this time around is really damn good this time around. They should start putting links in the description. Google time it is.
There is probably only one frame in this video of the laptop, except when it’s in the box, where the screen doesn’t wobble.
I bough an Asus SCA laptop back in 2013. This chassis looks like the exact same laptop form factor. The port locations, the keyboard layout, the bouncy hinge. It looks like Asus is also recycling their chassis ideas, too.
Guess they don't plan to sell it in the regions with Cyrillic keyboards, given that cheesy "mirrored R E" gimmick, having two "Я" will get pretty confusing
i really like this steady move (albeit slow) towards more modular computer with recycled plastic and what have you
but for the love of all things good, dial down the marketing
I don't mind the online marketing but making the R and E to be yellow and flipped is a bit too much
why are the "E" and "R" Keys first mirrored and second yellow? for "Recycled"?
Commend mainly because of the YT-Algorithm
Replying just to boost engagement.
Also replying for engagement, and also because that key thing is weird.
Replying instead of new comment cause yeah what is going on this is confusing the heck out of me lol
Dude that's a solid lower mid-ranger. If I'm ever in need of a burner or a laptop to use as a server interface or something I'm gonna have to keep that in mind.
I just realized nobody really uses burner laptops anymore. Burner phones still exist, but like... Nobody carries a burner laptop.
"If you're into the environment..."
Everyone should be into the environment. You live in the environment!
someone please point me to the direction of the dancing crab video, it's about to become my all-time favourite video.
I have a similar laptop, 17" aspire 5. These things are more than adequate for someone who isn't going to game.
And that applies to everything, even minesweeper. any activity can make these things fall apart. lol They are cheap for a reason.
@@noirarmire1246 false.
They're perfectly fine for a casual user.
@@noneyabizz8337 then you got lucky, I have a 62% return rate on Acer devices, I've sold hundreds (begrudgingly). I've kept track after my first year in sales resulted in 19 returns with 22 sold by just me. I have always suggested against it. They would either return it in the 2 weeks with problems, or die within 2 months. Where I couldn't take it back(Not included in the 62%). They are literally the cheapest tech you can buy. I no longer work in retail and the place I'm at now bought 300 2 months before the pandemic, I've filled out 23 RMA forms in the first 2 months, They sat unplugged for 6 months, then have filled out 97 since. Trust me, you're lucky.
@@noirarmire1246 and what's your data on HP?
@@noneyabizz8337 in all honesty, the acers we're the only data I kept during my retail days because it was that absurd. However, we had to by students laptops for the pandemic for 1 to 1. We bought about 8500, I think we had 12 or 13 damaged in shipping, and the only RMAs I filled out were the 4 on my desk because I bricked them while trying to remotely push a bios update and 2 where the keyboards stoped working. But that's all so far.
wdym $700? It's 950€ (almost 1 grand) in Germany which is A LOT more than I'd be willing to pay.
That kind of packaging screams "we're not just eco-friendly, we're pretentious about it too."
Love that you're taking a look which parts are replaceable, but that doesn't really say much for non-standard parts without them being available for purchase. Like yes, having the trackpad removable is great, but if you can't actually buy a replacement, it's pretty meaningless.
if they made a motherboard with an amd chip on it. that would be so cool for this laptop to have.
I use it with linux and it works fine, the only problem is that the fingerprint reader does not have a driver for linux, so it works badly, but I already knew it before, what made me choose this one, is its attractive price here in Chile compared to the competition, overall a good buy for me
The real turn-off for me is really the screen quality and the screen wobble. My 3 year old Lenovo Yoga, with its sketchy 360 degree hinge doesn't wobble half as much as this....
I love that some more mainstream companies are at least trying to make repairable products. With framework on the scene now, as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse. I'm not expecting modular ports on everything but making the screen, battery, trackpad and keyboard easy to replace at least should be possible in most laptops.
I miss the times, where keyboards could be replaced from the top with ease.
Framework would like to have a word with you.
Normally a point of failure
I love this finish, it looks so good.
Kudos to Acer. We need more anti-MacBooks.
More anti surface if we are honest... Macs at least have a snowballs chance
wish it used usb c port instead of dc barrel jack and dual ram channel slots configuration, that would be perfect,,
I bought it yesterday.
it's the perfect design for me.
it's for office only.
if want games like a squad. ill to go to my pc and play all night.
Being eco friendly shouldn't be a plus, it should be a standard, and it shouldn't be a selling point... but anything with acer on it to me is subgrade especially for the price point and quality
Yeah, but it's not the standard, so until it becomes the standard we should give them props for it when it is eco friendly, until we get all the companies to do better.
I really like the included stickers !
DON'T BUY, you'll regret it. I have mine since 10 months and it's already falling appart. All the internal components are good, but the frame is the problem. This 'recycled" material, is was not properly tested. The left side of the hinge that connects the screen, is cracked and the frame that holds the screen is starting to fall apart on the same area. I never dropped it, my screen doesn't even have one scratch.
Interesting. My mother also has one, and her hinge also cracks in same place as yours. Also, it is covered by warranty, if yours is broken and you still have warranty, you can repair for free. My mother repaired it 2 times already under warranty
I get an ad for this laptop before this video. Nice!