Every episode Baylen and Shin get more and more interesting. Its a frickin' tragedy that Ray left us before he had a chance to see how well-received his performance is.
I've said this so many times, he's an incredible actor, the stoicism he portrays in this series/character is great, I hope to find out more backstory on his character, hati and skoll are great characters for star wars
Thrawn’s entrance is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in Star Wars. Seeing the Star Destroyer emerge over the tower with that fantastic score was just perfect
@@krazyworld592 It’s so elegant and haunting. It’s like seeing the Flying Dutchman rise above the water in PotC. His ship looks like it rose from the grave but it just as strong as before. I love this scene so much
@andresjesus97 I actually really liked Ezra's return in fact more thrawn this foo thrawn looks to old to even be a threat bruh homie gunna need help when he falls and can't get back up
I’m shocked you didn’t mention that Thrawn’s army of Stormtroopers in the subtitle are called Night Troopers. Most likely referencing them possibly as undead resurrected by the Great Mothers.
Was wondering how he overlooked this... That is most def a dead army raised by night sister "Magick" Which in turn is why Thrawn said he's going to need their help again.
It would explain the fanaticism in his troops chanting his name despite being marooned in a different galaxy for 9 years. Also, cannibalism is mentioned, yes? I'm assuming Thrawn developed a taste for stormtroopers to help ration their early years, while certain deserters went off to become the bandits we see Skoll and Hati meet next episode.
When Enoch says “die well”, maul said the same thing to Gar Saxon in season 7 right before his fight with Ashoka in the rafters above the city. Could just be a way to bid “farewell” to a mandalorian,
@@alexmartin3143well it’s not too far fetched that he’d know. He was once probably a normal stormtrooper who had knowledge on mandalorian culture and what not
“A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away” that line gave me goosebumps. But I personally think this episode could use more flares. Because it's our first journey to different galaxy.
If you like video games, play star wars jedi fallen order and survivor. You see alot of them and also dathomir in these games, especially the first one
@@NewRockstars Baylen's "And again" is definitely a George Lucas reference to when he and Dave spoke about real empires and dictatorships when Lucas said "Empires fall, then democracy takes over then , another empire rises up , ya know repeats again and again because the lessons arent learned fully yet"
Enoch's mask is a traditional Roman cavalry face mask, it is meant to serve a similar function to the Japanese samurai masks or the pig helmets knights wore, to bring fear by taking out the human face and changing it with something inhuman, demonic or monstrous. In my opinion the Roman helmet is easily the creepiest and they are invoking a greatly similar feel here.
I wasn’t sure about him at first but after his scenes in this episode I’m absolutely convinced that Ezra is perfectly cast, not only does he look great but his voice is perfect, I was literally wondering if they had dubbed over his actual voice with the original actors, that’s how good it sounded
i started to tear up when Huyang said the words, this was an incredible episode, the first time out of the main Star Wars galaxy, night sisters, Thrawn, Ezra, this was top notch Dave Filoni story telling!
I love Ezra’s chainmail looking undershirt like an old Knight protecting the Noti and hinting at the old world feeling of the planet that could be home to something like the Bendu as you mentioned
I think some of what Thrawn said to Sabine was in frustration that someone would do something as foolish and potentially costly to their own side to the point of putting a galaxy at risk even though Thrawn is the one that is the danger he maintains concern that an individuals actions could possibly do the same to him. He's in part disappointed and frustrated with what Sabine did not only as one of the people who bested him once but also as a fellow warrior of which Thrawn identifies as. The map we see is indeed from the main galaxy because Wild Space is clearly visible in the leftmost part of the galaxy in the frame
The storm troopers are definitely modeled after Kintsugi, the Japanese bowls that are repaired with gold once they break. With Thrawn's love of art, I can totally see him doing something like this with his crew and his ship.
That couldn't have been Din and Grogu. They were traveling along a normal hyperspace route within their own galaxy, and Ahsoka was traveling in intergalactic hyperspace.
Yes, but if you look at the map in the end credits, the way to another galaxy leads straight through Mandalore. They were going in different types of hyperspace, but the paths were parallel for a while.
@@Morcorcoyeah but seatos is the final stop for the whales before going to peridia. So I agree with the original comment, it’s a stretch and there’s no way it was Din and Grogu
@@nickywags0712 but why was that scene in Mandalorian? There were no Purrgils appearance in SW since Rebels and they have literally no other purpose than getting to Ezra/Thrawn. From the filmmaking point of view it's a Chekhov's gun. The scene in Mando wouldn't exist if it wasn't connected to Ahsoka.
@@Morcorco ahsoka was going WAYY faster than Din and Grogu were as evidenced by how the Eye and Ahsoka's purrgil both had the same hyperspace tunnel. in mando s3 he was in normal hyperspace and they stayed with the purrgil for some time and they looked about as fast as his ship. i dont think that was ahsoka's pod. plus, iirc, their routes wouldn't link up bc mando was going to either tatooine or navarro so
My hunch is that most (if not all) of Thrawn's troopers are dead and have been resurrected by the witches' magic(k). Thrawn and Ezra are the one ones that actually survived after the star destroyer stranded there 9 years ago. All of the containers they are loading for the jump back into the main galaxy are also deceased troopers and will be brought back to life once they arrive and need a larger army.
Can we acknowledge that Huyang’s “history of the galaxy parts 1, 2, and 3” is absolutely a ref to the prequels, the original trilogy, and the sequels? And Ahsoka saying “part 1 is the best” because that was her story. That was when she was happiest and has the most fun. I’d you can call being a child soldier in an intergalactic civil “fun.” Added later: I commented this instantly. Glad y’all covered it 🤣
Huyang is 25,000 years old. Why would his "history of the galaxy" only cover the last 50 or so years? Part one would be well before the establishment of the old republic. From Huyang's POV now, the story is "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" so part one may even talk about the first force users coming into the main Star Wars galaxy from other galaxies.
@@deloceanophotothe commenter is pointing out a meta reference, not implying that Huyang would be telling the actual stories from the prequels, ot, and sequels
Peridea seems pretty clearly named after the word "perdition," an outcast state of punishment after death. There's no doubt the Great Mothers bear a certain corrupted resemblance to the Force Priestesses of the Wellspring; I think your Napoleon interpretation (a return from exile) will work for them as well, and it seems very possible that the power of the Wellspring is what Baylan is agitating toward.
Being that Lucas was also influenced by Herbert and the DUNE saga, I feel like the Night Sisters are a rough allusion to the Honored Matres, who were offshoots, or even 'cast outs', of the Bene Dessert sisterhood. I appreciated the seeds planted in this episode and look forward to seeing how they grow.
The subtitles did so much work in this issue. The bandits Shin sees at the end of the episode were speaking the same language as the Noti tribe that Ezra was with.
When Thrawn says he once again requires Great Mother’s Magick I think he was talking about how they raised dead troopers for him cos when they first showed the troopers closed captions called them Night Troopers. That makes me think most if not all of Thrawn’s forces are resurrected storm troopers who’ve died during their exile.
There were leaks about the Stormtroopers being Undead so I guess its confirmed. They look dirty, patched together and Like Thrawn stated, He will need the Nightsister's magick again. So he used their magick to rebuild his stormtrooper force. And didn't seem to concerned when he sent only 2 squads out to hunt Ezra and Sabine.
Instead of random undead night sisters like we've seen before, I like the idea that it's actually the dead troopers preserved to be revived as an undead army. Like the book Death Troopers by Joe schreiber
I definitely think the Rakatans are the end game here. I think it's telling that Baylon says the mothers are fleeing something even more powerful than themselves, and kind of implies they may have first come to the SW galaxy for the same reason. So like, they come to the SW galaxy, the Rakatans follow them, conquer it, and then the ancient uprising Luthen refers to in Andor drove them back across the void. An ancient species steeped in the force that once built unprecedented weapons and monuments would both be something the nightsisters would fear and someone like Baylon would want to seek out
The problem I have is that while Feloni hasn't minded modifying some canon....he's been pretty much still keeping things consistent. The Rakatans were not from another galaxy, they were from the Unknown regions, which is also where Ahch-To and Exegol were located, along with where the Chiss are from. If he is bringing back from Legends a more realistic outside galaxy race, it may be the Yuuzhan Vong.
@@tervalas Dear God, I hope not. Nothing about the Yuuzhan Vong has ever fit Star Wars and I have no idea why anyone likes the blasted things. They're just "let's make the entire Original Trilogy irrelevant and unimportant, the species." And they have the same effect on the prequels retroactively (though I will note that the Vong were conceptualized far earlier).
@@tervalas Plus not mention if you been following SWTOR you'd know that they Rakatans are so far devolved socialy that when you face any in that point in time they are "savages." Very tribalistic, not really using technology. Don't even understand their own tech that they now lean nearby.
I'd like to point out that we in no way shape or form can assume that the Rakatans of Canon have achieved these "unprecedented weapons and monuments" as you say, be careful making assumptions based on Legends. as far as I know, nothing of their mention in Canon comes close to the civilization we assume.
@@tervalas Baylan says something is calling to him, so it has to be connect to the Force, so that immediately eliminates the Yuuzhan Vong who have no connection to the Force.
I think Enoch is the only one left alive in Thrawns army. Enoch is the only human to not die and meet God, so to me, it would make sense that Enoch earned his name by being the last storm trooper left. I think his mask reflects that as well.He also did not have any red ribbon tailored around him from what I could tell.
I noticed his "lorica segmentata" style armor under his tunic but it potentially being the dog tags of fallen storm troopers goes hard@@joshuamoore6038
Also I think Baylon is supposed to be more of what the legends books use to call Grey force users, which is why I don't think his and his apprentice lightsabers are the orange tent and not red like we see that undead sith's lightsaber was pure red before he was slain by Asoka. Its why Baylon doesn't want to just kill Asoka, he isn't just a pure sith trying to kill jedi and take over he wants to reset the cycle to one with no war.
Hi from Ecuador, just loved that the resurrected stormtroopers have Kintsugi, which roughly translates as 'joining with gold' (kin is 'gold' and tsugi is 'join'). It is a centuries-old Japanese repair technique which uses urushi (Japanese lacquer) dusted with powdered gold to restore broken ceramic and porcelain vessels. The witches must have made that spell! Incredible!
The emotions that I felt seeing Ezra, and Sabine interacting again after so long was such an impact moments it was so sureal as a rebel fan Seeing Lars Mikkelsen absolutely nail the Live action adaptation of thrawn just as he did in rebels was so beautiful, and so special to see. Overall in my opinion I genuinely believe that episode 6 is up there with Episode 5 for best episode of the series This episode felt like rebels throughout ,and it was so special. I can't wait for the final 2 episode to see how this story concludes its gonna be really awesome, and really special that's for sure.
I think the gold additions to the stormtroopers and the Chimera are the result of the dark Magick too. Mother Talzin was able to weave metal using the same Magick to give Maul his new legs in Clone Wars, so it would make sense that they could also repair the trooper armor and even whole sections of the ship.
An additional note: Thrawn’s soldiers are subtitled at “Night Troopers” which makes me believe that they are undead. Which could also explains why he asks the Witches for their magick “again”
I’m going to make a bold exclamation and say what’s calling to Baylon is simply The Mother. Let’s think about How The Witches hold extreme diverse powers, and would also seemingly need a deity to reflect their magic. The father represents Balance, Daughter Is The Light, and The Son is the Dark… Ao the Mother could represent the Mysticism of the Nightsisters Magic; seeking to be freed from her prison where she was banished and forgotten.
It is also fitting that a matriarchal society feeds their power from literally the Mother. I hope this is Mortis related, I always thought they were underutilized in visual media.
Honestly I've been so happy with all the Star Wars tv shows Disney has been putting out. It's still so amazing to have such great stories to watch and that the legacy continues. I just love this universe so much and it brings me such joy to see the happiness it gives to others who share my enthusiasm
@@HappyBob701how??? he literally sounds just like him and looks just like how ezra would look after a decade of isolation as well as looks just like ezras father, and the nuances in the speech are all there
Baylan Skoll is giving me real Darth Traya vibes. Some one doesn’t like the force controlling everything to create balance and the swings back and forth being the will or the force.
I got real Shrek vibes from this one because Sabine sent on a Quest to find Ezra like Shrek sent to find Fiona and The Howler following Sabine like Donkey following Shrek
As always, loving these breakdowns and easter eggs! Loved the episode too! Hearing the "Thrawn" chant from the Stormtroopers reminded me a lot the "Grond" chant from the Orcs in front of Minas Tirith in Return of the King
I love Ashoka, probably my favourite live action Star Wars series so far! Rebels made me fall in love with Thrawn's voice and I was so happy they kept Lars Mikkelsen for the live action version, he did such a good job and commanded such a presence to match his stature 😁 Also random fact I didn't know.. he is Galen Erso's brother IRL 😊Question.. does anyone else find Shin Hati as hot as I do?? 😍😅
Am I the only one who looks forward to these reviews more than the show itself? Honestly I have never watched anything Star Wars but I cannot get enough of Eric's reviews.
When Enoch says 'Die well', it reminds me of Maul in season 7 of The Clone Wars. When the Mandalorian forces are being overrun by the clone forces, Maul is contacted and requested for backup. Maul chooses to flee instead and says 'Die well, Mandalorian'.
You could also interpret the "History of the Galaxies Part, 1, 2 and 3" being the three trilogies, but "Part 1 being the best" referring to the Original Trilogy as it was the first trilogy released. And, it's pretty universal among fans that the OT is the best.
These breakdown videos are the best thing on youtube. In some cases, more enjoyable than the show itself. In every case, the breakdowns make watching the shows much more enjoyable. Thank you 😊
24:43 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THIS POSSIBILITY! I’ve been saying since the beginning that the figures carved into the temple in Episode 1 looked vaguely similar to the Priestesses
Enoch wasn't the only one who had the armor held together by gold. I wonder if it's also a reference to what kintsugi also meant. Besides the meaning of putting together something broken and creating something even stronger (which could mean the hardships they faced after they became stuck) but there is also an old poem about a servant that broke a porcelain peace. It was something worthy of death penalty, but the servant repaired the porcelain peace instead, using the kintsugi and calming his masters wrath. Maybe there is a bit of a hint to how Thrawn didn't abandon his men and made them even more obedient out of gratitude. To them Thrawn is probably their savior.
Kintsugi is everywhere in the episode when having to do withthrawn. Tons of the Night Troopers and the ship itself it's repairs done with gold. The episode had so many Japenese cultural references.
Your content is so detailed and researched it is an education. Compared to other, supposedly knowledgeable breakdowns, this is a fire hose of information. Thank you!
Seeing Thrawn in live action really hits home as to why the Chiss aren't known to be force sensitive. If the forces is about feeling the currents of life and energy through the universe the Chiss appear to be too analytical, and strategical to adhere or even perceive the force.
Not all Chiss are as analytical and strategic as Thrawn, also some Chiss are Force sensitive, they are called Sky-walkers, and are trained to be navigators, using the force to navigate the dangerous unknown regions
Homeschooled Jedi! 😂 I enjoyed it a lot. It was a slow burn but there was quite a bit to digest. Thrawn’s announcement was perfect. Really loved Thrawn’s Kintsugi Nighttroopers. Gold joining the shattered armor pieces and the crimson Night magik ribbons bonding the dead to the world of the living. And the Captain’s helmet face, reminded me of an ancient Roman calvary helmet. That was a sweet touch. Also, we got to know more about General Baylan Skoll! Can’t wait for next week to learn about Ezra’s time on this new world. Ahsoka and Andor are the Zenith of Disney Star Wars. They are on the opposite ends of what I love. One is a gritty, political spy thriller based history and the other is a fantasy based on SW mythology, force magik and the cosmic and living force.
Always a pleasure to watch an episode or show or movie and then watch for when you're going to give us an unmatched dive into everything we saw but didn't see.
Notcied most of them, but funnily enough I did not notice #21. I was actually surprised and then not suprised how well Thrawns uniform looked and for once I saw the authority and power it shows to wear such a daper military uniform. Very neat touches on the damage, I didn't see them at all I was looking at how well kept it looked, rather than any damage it had. I also think when Baylan was speaking on breaking hte cycle it sounded so much like Kreia's ambition in Kotor 2. Since we've been getting alot of Kotor easter eggs, this feels like another one.
Fun fact about the stormtrooper armor. Kintsugi is the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery by mending the areas of breakage with hardened lacquer that is dusted or mixed, most commonly with gold. This may be a nod to the Japanese influence of Star Wars. The combat has always been influenced by samurai combat. Not sure if this is 100% why they did it. But I just thought it was interesting
When Thrawn says "you gamble the fate of your galaxy.." Its worth noting in the Thrawn books, he detected a greater threat and the whole idea of siding with the Empire was that the "Empire's Galaxy" was the only power to stand up to that hidden threat in the unknown part of the galaxy. I think Balen might sense the hidden threat or maybe the force sensitive Chiss that were used for hyperspace travel.
I commented last week on that episode's parallels to Hayao Miyazaki's The Wind Rises and I gotta point out that in this episode, it's hard not to feel like Baylan's remark that Peridea is a "land of dreams and madness" is very similar to the title of the documentary about Studio Ghibli's release of both The Wind Rises and Tale of the Princess Kaguya, which is called The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness.
Far, Far Away is also a call back to what Filoni said during Star Wars Celebration. He asked if we (the fans) wanted to know where Ezra was, and his answer was "Far, Far away." He certainly wasn't wrong.
I’m really glad they got the original voice actor to reprise his role in the live action. Heading another persons voice as Thrawn wouldn’t have hit as hard. His voice is so sinister. It fits the character well
Bokken jedi- The Jedi order started on the planet Tython. Everyone that lived on Tython was force sensitive, so anyone that wasn't force sensitive was shiped to tython's moon, where they lived, but were still trained in the Jedi ways. The name of that moon was Bokken.
I don’t personally see how this hyperspace jump would be the same as the one seen by Grogu. I don’t know the science of it, but I imagine that direction and timing are important when making a jump. I don’t see how a journey through the void between galaxies would pass through and alongside the same lane as a more inner section wherever Mando and Grogu were (I don’t recall where). Hope that came out out right.
I kind of see it like an interstate and an access road the runs along side it for a little bit. Both are headed in the same direction, but end up in different places.
This series is honestly the best Star Wars content I've seen in a while. It FEELS like Star Wars. It's got adventure, something the sequel films lacked. Mandolorian and Book of Boba Fett are also pretty solid.
Missed Easter egg maybe? Right before Sabine is attacked by the nomads her howler gets spooked and she says “whoa steady”…which is very similar to what Luke said to his Taun Taun before the wompa attacked him.
Another interesting fact when it comes to the three sisters of Dathomir, i think they are also inspired by the Three Goddess of fate in Norse mythology called the Norns, named Urd, Skuld, and Verdandi, each is associated with an aspect of time: past, future, and present respectively.
Given that Enoch was a biblical character who supposedly ascended directly into heaven as a human (i.e. he didn't die), I can't help but wonder if the Enoch in Ahsoka is the lone trooper in Thrawn's throngs of Night Troopers who is actually still alive (i.e. as opposed to being resurrected, as I suspect is the case with all the troopers donning red threads).
Bailan's speech gave me big vibes of Kreia/Darth Traya from KOTOR II, because she wanted to kinda "break the cycle" by destroying the Force itself. Makes me wonder if Bailan has a similar plan...
Has this been said yet? Enoch could be a resurrected soldier. His voice is highly processed kind of like Marak, his helmet face almost looks like a Night Sister. It's gold. It would explain the "I need to use your dark majick one more time" line
Here I am in college thinking this is a workload, but the amount of analysis and editing in just one of these breakdowns required is beyond me. You guys Rock!!! Huge props and the hardwork does not go unnoticed!
Baylan Skoll made sure he didn't kill Ahsoko, and he made sure that Sabine would come along with them because he knew that Ahsoka would follow. The question is, why.
Thank you for all the hard work that you do to bring us these hidden meanings. It must be quite time consuming. And I heartily agree with you. Ashoka is an excellent series!
The parallel I thought of on first watch was to Disney’s Hercules and Greek Mythology! You have Peridea as the underworld, the three witches who directly talk to Thrawn telling him about their visions of the future just like the three fates talking to hades about the threads of the future, and I have a feeling a lot of those stormtroopers Thrawn is leading are not living, just like how Hades looking over the dead. Just some random thoughts!
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Who do you think is calling to Baylan from Peridea? Bendu, Mortis Gods, Wellspring Priestesses, or Mephisto?
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I don't know but how are we not talking about the giant hyperspace ring being for the Star destroyer?
@@phobos258pretty sure bc that's been implied right from the start
definitely Mephisto..... calling it now 😂
Yep it’s mephisto
Every episode Baylen and Shin get more and more interesting. Its a frickin' tragedy that Ray left us before he had a chance to see how well-received his performance is.
A bit of consolation is that it seems the whole cast and crew knew they were working on something very special
I've said this so many times, he's an incredible actor, the stoicism he portrays in this series/character is great, I hope to find out more backstory on his character, hati and skoll are great characters for star wars
Ray Stevenson as Baylon is AMAZING
He really is the best character of the ahow
People saying his name over and over after his passing, it’s great and keeps him alive, from a certain point of view.
Thrawn’s entrance is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in Star Wars. Seeing the Star Destroyer emerge over the tower with that fantastic score was just perfect
John Williams would be proud.
Being on the last season of Rebels, I approve your comment, everything about him appearing brought chills and a hint of fear
@@krazyworld592 It’s so elegant and haunting. It’s like seeing the Flying Dutchman rise above the water in PotC. His ship looks like it rose from the grave but it just as strong as before. I love this scene so much
They nailed it with The Chimera, it was glorious 🤩
I almost came home badass that scene was
What an honor and a gift for David Tennant, that he gets to be the first actor to say “A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away”. So cool!
I mean… who else but The Doctor 😊
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Yes time noses ya hit me with ya blimpy tot lol😂
Sorry huge Who fan here
@@robertsarasi39210th and 14th Doctor and 11th and 15th incarnation
His line last episode 'they never listen' is a very Doctorish line. It could be said of most of the Doctor's companions.
and he did it so well!
Being such a rebels fan, it’s honestly surreal seeing Ezra again and better in live action form. Loved every part of it
Don't get too attached they will focus on sabine more than ezra and this return was really disappointing
@andresjesus97 I actually really liked Ezra's return in fact more thrawn this foo thrawn looks to old to even be a threat bruh homie gunna need help when he falls and can't get back up
This live action Ezra is so much better: he's very charismatic. I could not stand Rebels Ezra, very unlikable
@@TWD77710He is supposed to look old lmao. Man’s like 69 years old by that time.
He’s too brown
I’m shocked you didn’t mention that Thrawn’s army of Stormtroopers in the subtitle are called Night Troopers. Most likely referencing them possibly as undead resurrected by the Great Mothers.
Was wondering how he overlooked this... That is most def a dead army raised by night sister "Magick"
Which in turn is why Thrawn said he's going to need their help again.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see them turn to green smoke once we see them get killed in combat like Morrak did
Caught that too. Kinda makes me wonder just HOW MUCH of his army is gone. I can’t imagine he’s the only living member left…?
Yeah this is definitely what he's referring to when he says once again. That whole army is green smoke like Marrok
It would explain the fanaticism in his troops chanting his name despite being marooned in a different galaxy for 9 years. Also, cannibalism is mentioned, yes? I'm assuming Thrawn developed a taste for stormtroopers to help ration their early years, while certain deserters went off to become the bandits we see Skoll and Hati meet next episode.
He plays Thrawn so flawlessly I got so hyped by the powerful presence he was giving off
its the same voice actor
@@daeseongkim93 I know that. But he actually fits the part as an actor as well. Some people can only ever be voice actors
When Enoch says “die well”, maul said the same thing to Gar Saxon in season 7 right before his fight with Ashoka in the rafters above the city. Could just be a way to bid “farewell” to a mandalorian,
How would Enoch know that? He’s from a different galaxy. Do we think he’s a Night trooper only or is he more?
@@alexmartin3143well it’s not too far fetched that he’d know. He was once probably a normal stormtrooper who had knowledge on mandalorian culture and what not
I like this, makes me wonder though about how "Enoch" may know the correct phrasing to use for a Mandalorian. interesting implications!
@@davidbergfors6820 osmosis from hanging out with thrawn and thrawn's love and study of all cultures?
@@mattcurr9931 could it be a silly fan dream that maybe Amos might have some mandalorian blood? 😜
“A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away” that line gave me goosebumps. But I personally think this episode could use more flares. Because it's our first journey to different galaxy.
Hearing the word Dathomir and seeing the Nightsisters was just exciting
They were so creepy and I loved it
@@NewRockstarsI want to see more of them in live action
They were definitely one of my favorite parts of the clone wars cartoon
If you like video games, play star wars jedi fallen order and survivor. You see alot of them and also dathomir in these games, especially the first one
Ezra’s “I can’t wait to go home” line has me a little worried for his fate ☠️
Like it’s the last day of war before you go home. Yea, he might die.
I think he’ll die, but also a lil bs to spend 6eps getting to him just to kill him 1-2eps later
@@A3.studios He may not die in Ahsoka, but he could die in the movie.
@@zachberry4742its a reference to his last line in rebels
@@A3.studiosits a reference to his last line in rebels im sure he'll be fine
Thank you for your countless hours of time to analyze the episode. You truly are the best at breaking down videos
I really appreciate it. I'm so tired today, but it's worth it!
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Baylen's "And again" is definitely a George Lucas reference to when he and Dave spoke about real empires and dictatorships when Lucas said "Empires fall, then democracy takes over then , another empire rises up , ya know repeats again and again because the lessons arent learned fully yet"
Enoch's mask is a traditional Roman cavalry face mask, it is meant to serve a similar function to the Japanese samurai masks or the pig helmets knights wore, to bring fear by taking out the human face and changing it with something inhuman, demonic or monstrous. In my opinion the Roman helmet is easily the creepiest and they are invoking a greatly similar feel here.
The inhumanity may be an allusion to their innate lack of humanity at this stage: they may just be ghosts in shells, pretending to be sentient.
Cuman masks where cooler
I can't stop thinking that Huyang is the narrator of the opening crawl of every movie. Seems extremely meta to have him say that line.
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Very cool tho 😅
I wasn’t sure about him at first but after his scenes in this episode I’m absolutely convinced that Ezra is perfectly cast, not only does he look great but his voice is perfect, I was literally wondering if they had dubbed over his actual voice with the original actors, that’s how good it sounded
this episode was amazing, the world building is insane, cant wait to see thrawn be as formidable as he was in rebels
Let Filoni COOK!
I liked how thrawn wanted to know who trained the jedi coming! And I'm interested to see his interested to it being anakin.
i started to tear up when Huyang said the words, this was an incredible episode, the first time out of the main Star Wars galaxy, night sisters, Thrawn, Ezra, this was top notch Dave Filoni story telling!
Delivering that line (far far away) was beyond epic. I shed a tear
I love Ezra’s chainmail looking undershirt like an old Knight protecting the Noti and hinting at the old world feeling of the planet that could be home to something like the Bendu as you mentioned
Ashoka Will be angry to Sabine 😮
I think some of what Thrawn said to Sabine was in frustration that someone would do something as foolish and potentially costly to their own side to the point of putting a galaxy at risk even though Thrawn is the one that is the danger he maintains concern that an individuals actions could possibly do the same to him. He's in part disappointed and frustrated with what Sabine did not only as one of the people who bested him once but also as a fellow warrior of which Thrawn identifies as. The map we see is indeed from the main galaxy because Wild Space is clearly visible in the leftmost part of the galaxy in the frame
Hmmm 🤔 interesting 😅
The storm troopers are definitely modeled after Kintsugi, the Japanese bowls that are repaired with gold once they break. With Thrawn's love of art, I can totally see him doing something like this with his crew and his ship.
That couldn't have been Din and Grogu. They were traveling along a normal hyperspace route within their own galaxy, and Ahsoka was traveling in intergalactic hyperspace.
Yes, but if you look at the map in the end credits, the way to another galaxy leads straight through Mandalore. They were going in different types of hyperspace, but the paths were parallel for a while.
@@Morcorcoyeah but seatos is the final stop for the whales before going to peridia. So I agree with the original comment, it’s a stretch and there’s no way it was Din and Grogu
@@nickywags0712 but why was that scene in Mandalorian? There were no Purrgils appearance in SW since Rebels and they have literally no other purpose than getting to Ezra/Thrawn. From the filmmaking point of view it's a Chekhov's gun. The scene in Mando wouldn't exist if it wasn't connected to Ahsoka.
@@Morcorco ahsoka was going WAYY faster than Din and Grogu were as evidenced by how the Eye and Ahsoka's purrgil both had the same hyperspace tunnel. in mando s3 he was in normal hyperspace and they stayed with the purrgil for some time and they looked about as fast as his ship. i dont think that was ahsoka's pod. plus, iirc, their routes wouldn't link up bc mando was going to either tatooine or navarro so
@@Morcorcothat scene in the mandalorian was simply a teaser for the future. Ahsoka was going significantly faster and would not have been seen
My hunch is that most (if not all) of Thrawn's troopers are dead and have been resurrected by the witches' magic(k). Thrawn and Ezra are the one ones that actually survived after the star destroyer stranded there 9 years ago. All of the containers they are loading for the jump back into the main galaxy are also deceased troopers and will be brought back to life once they arrive and need a larger army.
Nah. Cause if you watch the troops don’t explode into that green mist the inquisitor did early on.
Can we acknowledge that Huyang’s “history of the galaxy parts 1, 2, and 3” is absolutely a ref to the prequels, the original trilogy, and the sequels? And Ahsoka saying “part 1 is the best” because that was her story. That was when she was happiest and has the most fun. I’d you can call being a child soldier in an intergalactic civil “fun.”
Added later: I commented this instantly. Glad y’all covered it 🤣
The sequel trilogy wouldn't have happened yet
@@michaelschmidt4767 yes. That’s why it’s a reference and not actually what he means.
Huyang is 25,000 years old. Why would his "history of the galaxy" only cover the last 50 or so years? Part one would be well before the establishment of the old republic. From Huyang's POV now, the story is "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" so part one may even talk about the first force users coming into the main Star Wars galaxy from other galaxies.
@@deloceanophotothe commenter is pointing out a meta reference, not implying that Huyang would be telling the actual stories from the prequels, ot, and sequels
I thought it was a Mel Brooks reference...
Peridea seems pretty clearly named after the word "perdition," an outcast state of punishment after death. There's no doubt the Great Mothers bear a certain corrupted resemblance to the Force Priestesses of the Wellspring; I think your Napoleon interpretation (a return from exile) will work for them as well, and it seems very possible that the power of the Wellspring is what Baylan is agitating toward.
Definitely think it's Abeloth or the grysk
Being that Lucas was also influenced by Herbert and the DUNE saga, I feel like the Night Sisters are a rough allusion to the Honored Matres, who were offshoots, or even 'cast outs', of the Bene Dessert sisterhood. I appreciated the seeds planted in this episode and look forward to seeing how they grow.
The subtitles did so much work in this issue. The bandits Shin sees at the end of the episode were speaking the same language as the Noti tribe that Ezra was with.
Think it might just me the planets language
When Thrawn says he once again requires Great Mother’s Magick I think he was talking about how they raised dead troopers for him cos when they first showed the troopers closed captions called them Night Troopers. That makes me think most if not all of Thrawn’s forces are resurrected storm troopers who’ve died during their exile.
I noticed this was the first time we actually saw Grand Admiral Thrawn smile.
Do we get a laugh this season?
No it wasn’t.
I noticed this was the first time we actually saw Grand Admiral Thrawn in the Ahsoka series.
He actually smiled in Rebels
He smiles in rebels
Definitely the best episode of the series so far and the return of Thrawn is already giving me goosebumps.
There were leaks about the Stormtroopers being Undead so I guess its confirmed. They look dirty, patched together and Like Thrawn stated, He will need the Nightsister's magick again. So he used their magick to rebuild his stormtrooper force. And didn't seem to concerned when he sent only 2 squads out to hunt Ezra and Sabine.
The closed captioning also refers to them as "Night Troopers"
Instead of random undead night sisters like we've seen before, I like the idea that it's actually the dead troopers preserved to be revived as an undead army. Like the book Death Troopers by Joe schreiber
it could make sense because the closed captioning refers to them as "Night Trooper"
I definitely think the Rakatans are the end game here. I think it's telling that Baylon says the mothers are fleeing something even more powerful than themselves, and kind of implies they may have first come to the SW galaxy for the same reason. So like, they come to the SW galaxy, the Rakatans follow them, conquer it, and then the ancient uprising Luthen refers to in Andor drove them back across the void. An ancient species steeped in the force that once built unprecedented weapons and monuments would both be something the nightsisters would fear and someone like Baylon would want to seek out
The problem I have is that while Feloni hasn't minded modifying some canon....he's been pretty much still keeping things consistent. The Rakatans were not from another galaxy, they were from the Unknown regions, which is also where Ahch-To and Exegol were located, along with where the Chiss are from. If he is bringing back from Legends a more realistic outside galaxy race, it may be the Yuuzhan Vong.
@@tervalas Dear God, I hope not. Nothing about the Yuuzhan Vong has ever fit Star Wars and I have no idea why anyone likes the blasted things. They're just "let's make the entire Original Trilogy irrelevant and unimportant, the species." And they have the same effect on the prequels retroactively (though I will note that the Vong were conceptualized far earlier).
@@tervalas Plus not mention if you been following SWTOR you'd know that they Rakatans are so far devolved socialy that when you face any in that point in time they are "savages." Very tribalistic, not really using technology. Don't even understand their own tech that they now lean nearby.
I'd like to point out that we in no way shape or form can assume that the Rakatans of Canon have achieved these "unprecedented weapons and monuments" as you say, be careful making assumptions based on Legends. as far as I know, nothing of their mention in Canon comes close to the civilization we assume.
@@tervalas Baylan says something is calling to him, so it has to be connect to the Force, so that immediately eliminates the Yuuzhan Vong who have no connection to the Force.
I think Enoch is the only one left alive in Thrawns army. Enoch is the only human to not die and meet God, so to me, it would make sense that Enoch earned his name by being the last storm trooper left. I think his mask reflects that as well.He also did not have any red ribbon tailored around him from what I could tell.
He did have red cloth under his armor but not as ribbon.
How do you think so many have died?
@@dicdollars1911 I think Ezra. He’s wearing all their dog tags.
I noticed his "lorica segmentata" style armor under his tunic but it potentially being the dog tags of fallen storm troopers goes hard@@joshuamoore6038
I like this
There was something about this episode that felt so different from the others, but so interesting. Cant wait for the next episode!
First live action or any action for that matter Star Wars canon wise to take place in a different galaxy. Thats something…
Also I think Baylon is supposed to be more of what the legends books use to call Grey force users, which is why I don't think his and his apprentice lightsabers are the orange tent and not red like we see that undead sith's lightsaber was pure red before he was slain by Asoka. Its why Baylon doesn't want to just kill Asoka, he isn't just a pure sith trying to kill jedi and take over he wants to reset the cycle to one with no war.
And also that's why a lot of people survived on that ship at the beginning of ep 1
Hi from Ecuador, just loved that the resurrected stormtroopers have Kintsugi, which roughly translates as 'joining with gold' (kin is 'gold' and tsugi is 'join'). It is a centuries-old Japanese repair technique which uses urushi (Japanese lacquer) dusted with powdered gold to restore broken ceramic and porcelain vessels. The witches must have made that spell! Incredible!
Pero me preocupa si Ezra va a morir de nuevo y Sabine y Ashoka pelean por la mala desición 😮😮
The emotions that I felt seeing Ezra, and Sabine interacting again after so long was such an impact moments it was so sureal as a rebel fan
Seeing Lars Mikkelsen absolutely nail the Live action adaptation of thrawn just as he did in rebels was so beautiful, and so special to see.
Overall in my opinion I genuinely believe that episode 6 is up there with Episode 5 for best episode of the series
This episode felt like rebels throughout ,and it was so special. I can't wait for the final 2 episode to see how this story concludes its gonna be really awesome, and really special that's for sure.
I think the gold additions to the stormtroopers and the Chimera are the result of the dark Magick too. Mother Talzin was able to weave metal using the same Magick to give Maul his new legs in Clone Wars, so it would make sense that they could also repair the trooper armor and even whole sections of the ship.
I'm thinking the same thing.
An additional note: Thrawn’s soldiers are subtitled at “Night Troopers” which makes me believe that they are undead. Which could also explains why he asks the Witches for their magick “again”
I absolutely loved this episode. I'm so excited to see how the next two episodes play out. In Dave and Jon, We Trust.
I’m going to make a bold exclamation and say what’s calling to Baylon is simply The Mother. Let’s think about How The Witches hold extreme diverse powers, and would also seemingly need a deity to reflect their magic. The father represents Balance, Daughter Is The Light, and The Son is the Dark… Ao the Mother could represent the Mysticism of the Nightsisters Magic; seeking to be freed from her prison where she was banished and forgotten.
It is also fitting that a matriarchal society feeds their power from literally the Mother. I hope this is Mortis related, I always thought they were underutilized in visual media.
So aboloth?
@@nateking-smith1698 Basically, Yes
Honestly I've been so happy with all the Star Wars tv shows Disney has been putting out. It's still so amazing to have such great stories to watch and that the legacy continues. I just love this universe so much and it brings me such joy to see the happiness it gives to others who share my enthusiasm
This episode was soo good. The actor of thrawn and Ezra are perfect castings. This has been my favorite series so far.
Well they are the voice actors of the show so make since.
ezra was way off
@@HappyBob701 I agree I wasn't too fond of Ezras casting fail. Where is his blue hair?
@@HappyBob701how??? he literally sounds just like him and looks just like how ezra would look after a decade of isolation as well as looks just like ezras father, and the nuances in the speech are all there
Baylan Skoll is giving me real Darth Traya vibes. Some one doesn’t like the force controlling everything to create balance and the swings back and forth being the will or the force.
I got real Shrek vibes from this one because Sabine sent on a Quest to find Ezra like Shrek sent to find Fiona and The Howler following Sabine like Donkey following Shrek
The implications of what greater power Baylan may be alluding to gave me CHILLS. The possibilities!
As always, loving these breakdowns and easter eggs! Loved the episode too! Hearing the "Thrawn" chant from the Stormtroopers reminded me a lot the "Grond" chant from the Orcs in front of Minas Tirith in Return of the King
I love Ashoka, probably my favourite live action Star Wars series so far! Rebels made me fall in love with Thrawn's voice and I was so happy they kept Lars Mikkelsen for the live action version, he did such a good job and commanded such a presence to match his stature 😁 Also random fact I didn't know.. he is Galen Erso's brother IRL 😊Question.. does anyone else find Shin Hati as hot as I do?? 😍😅
Except Andor..right?
Am I the only one who looks forward to these reviews more than the show itself? Honestly I have never watched anything Star Wars but I cannot get enough of Eric's reviews.
When Enoch says 'Die well', it reminds me of Maul in season 7 of The Clone Wars. When the Mandalorian forces are being overrun by the clone forces, Maul is contacted and requested for backup. Maul chooses to flee instead and says 'Die well, Mandalorian'.
Youve become my favorite ahsoka breakdown channel. You touch on additional details others miss. Great job.
15:30 Thrawn is such a badass. He doesn't go to the meeting via shuttle, but takes the entire freaking Star Destroyer! 🙂
Noticed in the subtitles the troopers in Thrawn's army are called Night Troopers. I wonder if Thrawn bolstered his forces with local male Dathmiri.
Seeing the battle worn chimera was so freaking cool in live action loved the broken ion engines!
You could also interpret the "History of the Galaxies Part, 1, 2 and 3" being the three trilogies, but "Part 1 being the best" referring to the Original Trilogy as it was the first trilogy released. And, it's pretty universal among fans that the OT is the best.
New Rockstars, thank you so much for your enthusiastic brilliance and pure nerd joy, it is a delight!!
I know Thrawn and Ezra were the main focus but seeing and hearing the 3 Dathomir Witches..🤯
These breakdown videos are the best thing on youtube. In some cases, more enjoyable than the show itself. In every case, the breakdowns make watching the shows much more enjoyable. Thank you 😊
Literally no one is talking about how the bandits on Peridea are fighting with Gaderffii. It directly ties the Tusken Raiders to Peridea.
:o
That is what I said to my son. They remind me of Tusken Raiders.
They even made similar sounds when attacking
Could be reusing props from boba
24:43 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THIS POSSIBILITY! I’ve been saying since the beginning that the figures carved into the temple in Episode 1 looked vaguely similar to the Priestesses
Episode 5 was AMAZING & 6 was equally as enjoyable!
Enoch wasn't the only one who had the armor held together by gold. I wonder if it's also a reference to what kintsugi also meant. Besides the meaning of putting together something broken and creating something even stronger (which could mean the hardships they faced after they became stuck) but there is also an old poem about a servant that broke a porcelain peace. It was something worthy of death penalty, but the servant repaired the porcelain peace instead, using the kintsugi and calming his masters wrath. Maybe there is a bit of a hint to how Thrawn didn't abandon his men and made them even more obedient out of gratitude. To them Thrawn is probably their savior.
omg I love this episode so much, I hope we see more of Enoch bc I think he looks amazing, the cracks sealed with gold I LOVE IT
Kintsugi is everywhere in the episode when having to do withthrawn. Tons of the Night Troopers and the ship itself it's repairs done with gold. The episode had so many Japenese cultural references.
Your content is so detailed and researched it is an education. Compared to other, supposedly knowledgeable breakdowns, this is a fire hose of information. Thank you!
Seeing Thrawn in live action really hits home as to why the Chiss aren't known to be force sensitive. If the forces is about feeling the currents of life and energy through the universe the Chiss appear to be too analytical, and strategical to adhere or even perceive the force.
Not all Chiss are as analytical and strategic as Thrawn, also some Chiss are Force sensitive, they are called Sky-walkers, and are trained to be navigators, using the force to navigate the dangerous unknown regions
What if Marrok being revealed as a zombie inquisitor was a hint at Thrawn potentially being the leader of the live action undead stormtroopers?
Homeschooled Jedi! 😂
I enjoyed it a lot. It was a slow burn but there was quite a bit to digest. Thrawn’s announcement was perfect. Really loved Thrawn’s Kintsugi Nighttroopers. Gold joining the shattered armor pieces and the crimson Night magik ribbons bonding the dead to the world of the living. And the Captain’s helmet face, reminded me of an ancient Roman calvary helmet. That was a sweet touch. Also, we got to know more about General Baylan Skoll! Can’t wait for next week to learn about Ezra’s time on this new world.
Ahsoka and Andor are the Zenith of Disney Star Wars. They are on the opposite ends of what I love. One is a gritty, political spy thriller based history and the other is a fantasy based on SW mythology, force magik and the cosmic and living force.
what a great episode, I think it felt so different because it was formatted a lot like a rebels episode. Did anyone else get that vibe?
TOTALLY! A mix of deep world building, with goofy crab-turtle Ewok people, and Ezra and Sabine goofing around. Takes me back to 2017!
I did too I thought I was the only one
Truly there are very few people that do this with the passion of the Vosser. ❤
Absolutely amazing episode still in awe of the creativity and story. Loved seeing thrawn again and his mysterious troopers
Always a pleasure to watch an episode or show or movie and then watch for when you're going to give us an unmatched dive into everything we saw but didn't see.
Notcied most of them, but funnily enough I did not notice #21. I was actually surprised and then not suprised how well Thrawns uniform looked and for once I saw the authority and power it shows to wear such a daper military uniform. Very neat touches on the damage, I didn't see them at all I was looking at how well kept it looked, rather than any damage it had.
I also think when Baylan was speaking on breaking hte cycle it sounded so much like Kreia's ambition in Kotor 2. Since we've been getting alot of Kotor easter eggs, this feels like another one.
Fun fact about the stormtrooper armor. Kintsugi is the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery by mending the areas of breakage with hardened lacquer that is dusted or mixed, most commonly with gold. This may be a nod to the Japanese influence of Star Wars. The combat has always been influenced by samurai combat. Not sure if this is 100% why they did it. But I just thought it was interesting
The only thing that beats watching the actual show on Tuesday is seeing your breakdown on Wednesday 🎉🙌🏽😎
Yep! 😅
When Thrawn says "you gamble the fate of your galaxy.." Its worth noting in the Thrawn books, he detected a greater threat and the whole idea of siding with the Empire was that the "Empire's Galaxy" was the only power to stand up to that hidden threat in the unknown part of the galaxy.
I think Balen might sense the hidden threat or maybe the force sensitive Chiss that were used for hyperspace travel.
I commented last week on that episode's parallels to Hayao Miyazaki's The Wind Rises and I gotta point out that in this episode, it's hard not to feel like Baylan's remark that Peridea is a "land of dreams and madness" is very similar to the title of the documentary about Studio Ghibli's release of both The Wind Rises and Tale of the Princess Kaguya, which is called The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness.
I love watching each episode each week along with your commentary. You catch things and point out stuff that just *chef’s kiss*. THANK YOU.
*_Almost was in Tears when EZRA&SABINE Hugged each other_* ... *_Well acted scene_* ✨✨
7:19 "these witches were just riding everything"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Far, Far Away is also a call back to what Filoni said during Star Wars Celebration. He asked if we (the fans) wanted to know where Ezra was, and his answer was "Far, Far away." He certainly wasn't wrong.
Baylin’s “again and again and again”I think it’s a direct reference to Macbeth “ tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow”.
I’m really glad they got the original voice actor to reprise his role in the live action. Heading another persons voice as Thrawn wouldn’t have hit as hard. His voice is so sinister. It fits the character well
Bokken jedi- The Jedi order started on the planet Tython. Everyone that lived on Tython was force sensitive, so anyone that wasn't force sensitive was shiped to tython's moon, where they lived, but were still trained in the Jedi ways. The name of that moon was Bokken.
I don’t personally see how this hyperspace jump would be the same as the one seen by Grogu. I don’t know the science of it, but I imagine that direction and timing are important when making a jump. I don’t see how a journey through the void between galaxies would pass through and alongside the same lane as a more inner section wherever Mando and Grogu were (I don’t recall where). Hope that came out out right.
I kind of see it like an interstate and an access road the runs along side it for a little bit. Both are headed in the same direction, but end up in different places.
This series is honestly the best Star Wars content I've seen in a while. It FEELS like Star Wars. It's got adventure, something the sequel films lacked. Mandolorian and Book of Boba Fett are also pretty solid.
Missed Easter egg maybe? Right before Sabine is attacked by the nomads her howler gets spooked and she says “whoa steady”…which is very similar to what Luke said to his Taun Taun before the wompa attacked him.
“The witches were riding everything” line made me spit a little iced coffee out 😂
I always love your breakdowns, but I’m especially hyped to learn that the legendary Claudia Black was in this!
Another interesting fact when it comes to the three sisters of Dathomir, i think they are also inspired by the Three Goddess of fate in Norse mythology called the Norns, named Urd, Skuld, and Verdandi, each is associated with an aspect of time: past, future, and present respectively.
Love how the nightsister temple kind of looks like Minas Tirith
Given that Enoch was a biblical character who supposedly ascended directly into heaven as a human (i.e. he didn't die), I can't help but wonder if the Enoch in Ahsoka is the lone trooper in Thrawn's throngs of Night Troopers who is actually still alive (i.e. as opposed to being resurrected, as I suspect is the case with all the troopers donning red threads).
Bailan's speech gave me big vibes of Kreia/Darth Traya from KOTOR II, because she wanted to kinda "break the cycle" by destroying the Force itself. Makes me wonder if Bailan has a similar plan...
Has this been said yet? Enoch could be a resurrected soldier. His voice is highly processed kind of like Marak, his helmet face almost looks like a Night Sister. It's gold. It would explain the "I need to use your dark majick one more time" line
the whole lot of em. Night Troopers. the red tape the mark of the Dathmiri. The busted armor. they look like undead Stormtroopers
Here I am in college thinking this is a workload, but the amount of analysis and editing in just one of these breakdowns required is beyond me. You guys Rock!!! Huge props and the hardwork does not go unnoticed!
I love how when Huyang starts the story with the infamous line, you can really hear David Tenant getting into his whimsical Doctor voice.
Baylan Skoll made sure he didn't kill Ahsoko, and he made sure that Sabine would come along with them because he knew that Ahsoka would follow. The question is, why.
Thank you for all the hard work that you do to bring us these hidden meanings. It must be quite time consuming. And I heartily agree with you. Ashoka is an excellent series!
The parallel I thought of on first watch was to Disney’s Hercules and Greek Mythology! You have Peridea as the underworld, the three witches who directly talk to Thrawn telling him about their visions of the future just like the three fates talking to hades about the threads of the future, and I have a feeling a lot of those stormtroopers Thrawn is leading are not living, just like how Hades looking over the dead. Just some random thoughts!
And Thrawn is blue like Disney's Hades 💙
The whole "It reeks of Jedi" and the echoing speech reminded of Dune reverend mothers, because of course.