I figured out exactly what's wrong with my Toshiba CRT TV (20AF41)

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  • I found this Toshiba CRT 20" TV on the side of the road a few years ago. It's served me well until the other day when it stopped turning on. Let's figure out what failed on this TV and get it working again.
    0:00 Intro
    2:19 Tour
    10:44 Inside the set, architecture, SVM
    19:10 Sharpness mod on the video inputs
    22:12 Diagnosing and repairing the set
    57:07 Fixing my broken VCR
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    Toshiba 20AF41
    Manufactured: February 2001
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  • @jamesdye4603
    @jamesdye4603 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Saving old CRT televisions and monitors has become a mild obsession for me because they aren't making new ones, and any insight into keeping them working is greatly appreciated.

    • @JonnyMudMower
      @JonnyMudMower 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They still make new ones you can order them from China

    • @ForTheStyle
      @ForTheStyle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JonnyMudMowerThe plastic case and other components may be newly manufactured but the glass tubes are either from recycled used sets or are new old stock.

    • @JonnyMudMower
      @JonnyMudMower 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ForTheStyle whatever lol they have thousands of new old stock tubes and all the components and case are new so who cares , it’s a new tv with a 1 year warranty , there is people making new tubes but they aren’t available to the public or your paying big time for them .

    • @kvmoore1
      @kvmoore1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chances are these (CRT TVs/monitors) will never be made again. I wonder if any of these that are still fully functional and in good condition 20-30 years from now will be worth a lot of money because of their rarity. Just a thought.

    • @rittol2365
      @rittol2365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JonnyMudMowerplease tell me where, greatly appreciated if u know

  • @blakebechtel5192
    @blakebechtel5192 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am likely one of the only people who watched this video on a Sanyo 25" from 1997. Great video!

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the golden uterus sticker on the side of the set.

    • @charisma7268
      @charisma7268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂🤣 😂😂🤣😂😂

  • @mrnmrn1
    @mrnmrn1 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    While this solved the problem, there's probably still at least one fault. The voltage was sagging about -1.2V- 1V before, now it's sagging about -1V- 0.6V, which is still a lot for a 5V rail. The 5V VCC of the controller is sourced from a simple pass transistor+zener diode regulator, which is not a great performer usually. The raw 8.9V input is filtered by a 470uF 16V (C531) capacitor. I'm almost certain that C531 has high ESR, and probably undersized in capacitance. The same 8.9V rail supplies power to a 7805 as well, which is switched by a transistor, and has an other 470uF capacitor (C529) on its input, and a 1000uF on its output. The voltage sag on the AT+5V VCC rail during power-on is most likely caused by the high inrush current when the switching transistor connects the discharged 470uF capacitor to the same 8.9V rail, and the 1000uF on the output of the 7805 also contributes to the high inrush current on the 8.9V rail during power-up.
    I would replace C531, C529, and would also probably change the value of C531 from 470uF to at least 680uF or even 1000uF. It does not feel right to switch a completely discharged 470uF capacitor on a live, unregulated rail that is filtered only by an other 470uF. A significant amount of voltage sag is inevitable on the rail, due to the inrush current.
    *EDIT* correction: the voltage sag is about 0.6V after the repair, and it was like 1V before the repair. I wasn't paying attention that the 5V level is not aligned with the grid. Thanks to @Michael Thomsen for pointing this out. 56:17

    • @jwhite5008
      @jwhite5008 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes! Exactly! Not sure how Adrian missed it.
      Well, I'm not 100% sure if it is C531 or something else but 1V sag is most definitely NOT ok, it will likely get into clicky mode after a while.
      I'd say at least try checking if one of the power switching transistors is marginal as well.

    • @c0rpse1
      @c0rpse1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jwhite5008 he was thinking of sissy hypnosis

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My bets are on C531 too.

    • @russellhltn1396
      @russellhltn1396 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, C531 is doing the heavy lifting of being the first stage filter for the switching power supply. Those usually fail first. I would double check it. And I agree the voltage sag is excessive even if the TV is still working (for now).

    • @nikelquint
      @nikelquint ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@c0rpse1 bruh lmao

  • @BlueXonar
    @BlueXonar ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fun fact, worldwide sale of CRT televisions actually PEAKED in 2005, despite some markets being in heavy decline in favour of LCD by that time!
    You could still buy them in some countries past 2010.
    There are actually still one or two CRT manufacturers in existence, but they make equipment exclusively for airline and military purposes.

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can still buy them "new" here
      New board, reconditioned tubes from monitors etc. Some even has dvb t2!

    • @swardmusic
      @swardmusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bitelaserkhalifwhere?

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swardmusic Indonesia

    • @scratchpad7954
      @scratchpad7954 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bitelaserkhalifDoes this imply the existence of new old stock NTSC picture tubes?

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scratchpad7954 IDK about that, we picked whatever monitor tube available

  • @TheStevesterX
    @TheStevesterX ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Holy Crap! I used to own that exact same model. Bought it back in 2000 because I wanted a set with Component Inputs (Y Pb Pr) for my PS2. God, did it make the PS2 look freaking good.

    • @jastervoid
      @jastervoid ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, but I still have the set (and the PS2)

    • @fattomandeibu
      @fattomandeibu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The composite/component thing is kinda alien to me. Every TV I owned was either RF only or RF and RGB, sometimes S-Video and I've been using RGB since the Sega Mega Drive(SNES doesn't support RGB out, sadly) and Amiga days.
      I couldn't imagine playing PS1 or PS2 through RF(or composite, which doesn't look much better), unless you had a TV from like 1982, or a VERY(I mean like sub-£100 new) cheap portable which was RF only.

    • @JaneTheDoe-id2vx
      @JaneTheDoe-id2vx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it really make a huge difference compared to composite???

    • @BH4x0r
      @BH4x0r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think most analog inputs were awful on tv (like the cinch ones)
      because if i used a audio+tv signal to scart adapter (passive) it always looked way better for some reason

  • @ronnybkk1
    @ronnybkk1 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Great vid Adrian!! Thailand was a big CRT manufacturer in this time period. I could still find brand new tubes and chassis at the electronic market back then. Now I come across some FBT and other spares from time to time. Because of the weather conditions CRT are still widely used here. LCD tend to develop issues with the polarizer after a few years, most commonly known as the "vinegar syndrome". Nothing beats a good tube, especially in all its RGB glory :-)

    • @EmeraldHill-vo1cs
      @EmeraldHill-vo1cs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah i'm in oz and have my 27 inch samsung crt running nonstop fa 8 years now. Its aprox 25 yrs old. Skin tones beat my flatscreens anyday.

  • @honich-eriker
    @honich-eriker ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Orion only used Nichicon and Rubycon capacitors in their TV sets, VCRs and DVD players until the company went bancrupt in around 2015. So the capacitor brands weren’t Toshiba’s choice here.
    Although Orion was known for cheap products, their hardware quality was decent. However, I didn’t like the build quality of their remote controls and the plastics paintwork. Orion’s cases often came with scratches and impurities right out of the factories.
    In my Orion TV VCR combo from April 2001, some PCBs had the Matsushita [M] logo on it. Some - if not most - Orion-branded CRTs were actually built by Chunghwa in China.

  • @Gannett2011
    @Gannett2011 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Two repairs for the price of one! I was really surprised that just cleaning the heads would clear that video picture up. Great video as always!

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When dealing with old magnetic tapes (VCR, tape recorder, reel to reel) this type of problem will be getting more and more common than before : when 20 or 30 years ago (when the tapes were still recent, except for rally bad quality tapes) you have to use the equipment for several dozens of hours to get slightly dirty tapes, it now take only one faulty tape to entirely clog the heads.
      I think the same kind of problem can happen too with floppy disks too.

  • @BigRonRN18
    @BigRonRN18 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just because, I was also looking at the service manual and see you can press "VOL (-)MIN" (presumably the button on the front) and the #"6" key on the remote control and it should display the hours the display has been on. Not that it makes any difference, but it may be interesting to see what it says.

  • @uomoartificiale
    @uomoartificiale ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your troubleshooting skills are off the charts! It was very instructional following your reasoning through the schematics and the testing of the components.

  • @JamsterJules
    @JamsterJules ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have no interest in repairing TV's but found that very entertaining. Love your vids!

  • @elfenmagix8173
    @elfenmagix8173 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Adrian, Adrian, Adrian... With these old TVs, you need to wait for them to warm up before they turn on!! 😅

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, 2000's era TV sets turn on in less than five seconds, if they don't something has gone wrong. These TVs dont hava any other tube than the fast response CRT.
      BTW, if this an attempt at sarcasm, it never adjusts well in written form.

  • @paincreatesfame
    @paincreatesfame 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could be studying for uni or doing my job orientation but here I am watching an hour-long video about a CRT lol I love it

  • @MaCroCosmHD
    @MaCroCosmHD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm having crazy flashbacks watching you work over a Micron mousepad, Adrian! I worked Tech Support at Micron in the late 90's. that mousepad was everywhere! They published many different 800 numbers so they could track where calls were coming from. When we got a call to that number, the phone display would say "Mousepad"! BTW loved your unboxing of that era Micron PC you did years ago, I've been watching ever since!

  • @Cherijo78
    @Cherijo78 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the lessons I am taking from this is to always put CRTs like this on a power strip and physically switch it off. Simply being plugged in and unused is clearly creating stress on the components even though they're not doing a whole lot per se. Over time that will cause them to wear out more.

  • @ObiWanBillKenobi
    @ObiWanBillKenobi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve recently gotten enthusiasm over VHS tapes and converting them to computer video files. Thanks to The Oldskool PC’s videos on TH-cam, I know way more than I ever thought there was to know in order to get an excellent transfer! And I recently got a professional level VCR with a TBC built in! 😮

  • @The-truth-is-valuable.
    @The-truth-is-valuable. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reading some of the comments below, it seems that the "fix", was just a temp plaster on a problem still lingering. However, many aspects of this repair were still a valuable learning experience. Thanx Adrian.

  • @swedenreality6082
    @swedenreality6082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to thank you dude. I am a computer science guy with experience in frontend backend, and a lot of different languages and tech stacks. I am currently working as an educator in the field. When i see you start going about hardware with all.. ratatata, this is the same when I start showing and explaining code. The way my brain works when listening your bs about hardware must be similar to my students when they listen to me when i start going about code. So, thanks for the perspective.

  • @Tedybear315
    @Tedybear315 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    On the arcade games that I used to service (and still sorta do as a phone support tech for an arcade company)
    CRT monitor on older games does nothing but "click" or "Tick". Usually we trace that back down to a fried H.O.T. (Horizontal Output Transistor). And normally while we're in there replacing the driver transistor along with the H.O.T.- I'll recap the board at the same time. Amazing how much cleaner the picture looks afterwards.

  • @Jody_VE5SAR
    @Jody_VE5SAR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The VCR issue was just the icing on an excellent cake, Adrian!

  • @rdcfrdcf
    @rdcfrdcf ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If I remember correctly, the sharpening trick some TVs use relies on the detection of the transition from a lighter area to darker area during the image scan, and blanking the pixels in-between the transition boundary. It basically puts a fine black outline between areas of contrasting brightness and/or color.

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 ปีที่แล้ว

      ? doubt it? that'd require a hell of a lot of signal processing, maybe a high frequency emphasising/boosting circuit ... that'll have the effect of sharpening edges

    • @rdcfrdcf
      @rdcfrdcf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andygozzo72 You could be right. Wikipedia entry for 'Edge enhancement' does describe something similar to what I meant, though. There's likely several ways to achieve a similar effect.

    • @button-puncher
      @button-puncher ปีที่แล้ว +5

      UGH, yeah the "cartoon" effect. I can't believe that they made a set where you couldn't turn it off. Good on Adrian for figuring out a way.

    • @Wyatt_James
      @Wyatt_James ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What it does on this TV is finely adjusts the horizontal position of the beam, slowing it down during sharp brightness transitions. This compensates for poor bandwidth in the amplification circuitry, but tends to cause overshoot and geometry issues, especially on these Orion sets.

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was this on ALL late model CRTs? I don't remember seeing it on any of the ones we had in the early 2000s.

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For head cleaning, we used Kim wipes (Kimtech). For everything, the Sony D2, Beta SP, and all of the random S-VHS and VHS decks. The 4x8" ones. Fold in to quarters. Perfect finger width size.
    Beware that you never want to move your finger up/down when cleaning heads. Modern decks have a piezo adjustment for head tracking and that can be broken by vertical movement. What I do is rotate the drum to between the heads, place my finger there, keep constant pressure, then rotate the drum a couple times.
    One nice thing about pro decks is that most have an RF meter or even an RF test point that you can scope to see the signal from the heads. Low signal, clogged heads or bad tracking.

  • @Nixima81
    @Nixima81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boy this brings back memory's from the days remember my 32" Panasonic i had before upgrading, Those things are not friendly on the old back :)

  • @MicheIIePucca
    @MicheIIePucca ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can't get enough of these "troubleshooting" videos. Thank you!

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might be a prime candidate for that replacement board from your newer video.

  • @MarianoLu
    @MarianoLu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those Toshiba TV's where really nice back in the day.

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the double gesticulation starting around 1:02:40.

  • @JeffBreyer
    @JeffBreyer ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had a Sanyo of about the same vintage but it did support 480p. Component looked incredible. It really was handy to have all those inputs.

  • @jaystephens3115
    @jaystephens3115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent repair, Adrian. Be aware that these Orion-made Toshibas commonly experience vertical foldover from a couple of caps close to the vertical IC/heatsink that are prone to early failure.

  • @pgriggs2112
    @pgriggs2112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first ADB video I saw was Adrian fixing a discarded tv. 😂

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I wonder how many people got recommended that video back in the day, and why.

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
    @paulmichaelfreedman8334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently salvaged an old EMac from mid-90's from an old lady who was about to toss it. Now I am not so interested in the Mac components but it does have a really nice nearly flat shadow mask CRT. She also said it had not been used for a long time and when new it was not used much either. The machine has seen at most 100 hours of operation. I have yet to disassemble the machine, but I am expecting the CRT's Cathode to be nearly pristine. Keeping it for eternity or until it breaks, because these things are becoming exceedingly rare. If only I'd realized BEFORE I tossed a beautiful trinitron CRT (approx 10 yrs ago) with ultra fine aperture grille, how valuable they'd become. I love LCDs but CRT's gives the retro stuff a pure look like nothing else.
    I am hoping there's some genius little guy sitting in a little office somewhere in China or Japan working on a way to make flexible OLED displays with a bulge so they resemble CRTs in appearance.

  • @nijhuisrb
    @nijhuisrb ปีที่แล้ว

    1990 problems, nice work!

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 48 inch Toshiba JUST like that, had to move it upstairs in the apt. I was living in at the time, OMG the thing weighed a TON.

  • @Kiss__Kiss
    @Kiss__Kiss ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Happy to see that you're still making great content, Adrian. I remember following you, because I was searching for SJ Forester XT content, and stumbled upon your video. And the rest is history lol

  • @jaygreentree4394
    @jaygreentree4394 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have my 20 inch tv with dvd/vcr built-in from back in college. I dont use it much these days because flat screens are better for my eyes. That tv still works as good as it did brand new in 2003.

  • @horusfalcon
    @horusfalcon ปีที่แล้ว

    A bloodhound's nose, and a wolverine's persistence! Well done.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have several 2003-2006 era Toshiba AF series CRTs and the last one was obtained exactly the same way: Left on the curb in the rain. Wiped off the mud and it was as good as new. :)

  • @MrFixiit
    @MrFixiit ปีที่แล้ว

    Tuned in for a TV Repair and got a TV and Video repair bonus :D

  • @brentadams28
    @brentadams28 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BBE is an audio ‘exciter’ box we used to use in professional sound systems back in the ‘90s before DSP was really accessible and affordable.

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was also embedded in an IC with high range Aiwa walkmans since the late 80's.

  • @michaelthomsen8771
    @michaelthomsen8771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate you making this type of videos, although long it shows your thought process, and has definitely given me some new ideas for trouble shooting for the future, thanks!

  • @manytrickpony695
    @manytrickpony695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent troubleshooting skills... an oscilloscope is a tremendously useful tool.

  • @aleksandarl6975
    @aleksandarl6975 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an European, my symathy to all US tech enthusiasts for not having scart, it makes life so much easier, scart wasn't just audio/video with everything from composit to rgb on it, it also had control bus, so componets could control each other, synchro start, channel change etc. Connector was relatively big with 2 rows of well spaced easy to solder pins, so making custom cables was pretty easy.

  • @Wyatt_James
    @Wyatt_James ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I've had a good few Orion Toshibas over time. Starting in the 2000s, Toshiba outsourced pretty much all of their TVs under 32 inches to Orion to cut costs.
    The last number of the model number signifies the year of the set - XXAF41 for 2001, 42 for 2002, etc.
    You shouldn't have had to cut the VM coil wires to disable SVM. If you peek in the service manual, CP852B is also part of the SVM signal path, and is just a normal connector. This is a very common mod on these sets. The SVM also horribly impacts geometry on these sets.
    Many of these Orionshibas also have "red push," where red colors are boosted without altering white balance. It's pretty nasty, but I believe that the 2001 models maaay not have had it? And my 14AF46 also does not. On the 2001-2002 models, it may be removable via some initialization data trickery, none of which is particularly well-documented.
    These sets also got worse over time. They redesigned the chassis in 2003, and they started reducing the input count in 2004. They always retained the full suite of inputs, but the later sets had fewer duplicates and lost the monitor out, at least on the small models. If memory serves, the handling of the YPbPr video also became worse with the chassis redesign, having some horizontal separation issues.
    There is also an hour counter on these sets, which can be accessed in a similar way to the service menu, details of which are in the service manual. In short: turn the volume all the way down. Then, hold volume down on the TV, and press and hold 9 on the remote for the service menu, or 6 for the hour counter.
    Jamvanderloeff is still around and still making all sorts of stuff! He's Wakabavideo on eBay, and he only lists items that are currently in-stock. As far as I know, he's still making his YPbPr to RGB transcoder. He's an active member in the /r/crtgaming subreddit, as well as the Discord server linked there, and he'll always respond when asked about stock.

    • @wowitsshit9734
      @wowitsshit9734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @tony--james
      @tony--james ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a 27 inch or so Orion TV, it was made August 2002 (on sticker), it's still working, I only use it once in awhile for ColecoVision/Intellivision, but it does have a lot of hours on it.. it's black color cabinet, I'll have to check later to see if it has a hour counter lol, interesting. Edit, okay ( out of breath, frikin thing is heavy lol) it's model number is STV2763, okay I tried , this came up on a blue screen, INIT 00 08 CRT ON 55CA , I couldn't exit it, so I shut it off lol

  • @timrb
    @timrb ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, great to see you keeping tech running!

  • @foogod4237
    @foogod4237 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To be honest, I would check the other things that are connected to that 5V line as well. It's quite possible that it wasn't just that one capacitor that was the cause, but a combination of several of them, all getting to the point where they're respectively failing to do their full job, and the total sag is adding up to too much.
    Or there may be another component which is consuming more power than it's supposed to when the set first starts up, causing the sag in the first place.
    I can't say for certain, but my gut says that it doesn't really feel to me like you've necessarily completely fixed the issue, maybe just postponed it...

  • @998cooper
    @998cooper ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vid. Thanks for posting.

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee ปีที่แล้ว

    ssssuuper cool video - chuckled massively at the start especially 🤣
    hope I can steal that optimism you have launching into troubleshooting - love it ❤️

  • @iteachtime
    @iteachtime ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Adrian, excellent as usual!

  • @makeitreality457
    @makeitreality457 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting, having repaired about 20 sets as a hobby, and yes; both tube-type and LED TVs develop the same RST problem with old caps. One of the first things to check.

  • @markae0
    @markae0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great teaching of a repair video! X 2 for the VCR

  • @michaelrose1814
    @michaelrose1814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the long format repairs keep it up

  • @andythomas7931
    @andythomas7931 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou for the great video and the two for one special 🙂

  • @Duddie82
    @Duddie82 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this video. I am pretty hooked on your videos. Been watching for many years!!

  • @DadofScience
    @DadofScience ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video, Adrian. Keeping these old units in service is something I'm keen on myself and I think I have a similar unit. I'll check out the shed and get back to you.

  • @Color-Theory
    @Color-Theory ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video. Thank you for sharing!

  • @tomekrv942
    @tomekrv942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video. Thanks to You I learned a lot in the field of electronics.

  • @aarontrupiano9328
    @aarontrupiano9328 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad won one of these at his old job back in 2003 or something and it still works great.

  • @TheMatthiasRiots
    @TheMatthiasRiots 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A master of his craft! I applaud you sir.

  • @xKynOx
    @xKynOx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have my mum and dads old 14" CRT from the early 2000's, it was in the caravan so was only used for a few hours a year the picture is still great and a PS2 through scart looks sweet.

  • @50shadesofbeige88
    @50shadesofbeige88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love an extemded diagnostic caper.

  • @Greenchrysopsaro
    @Greenchrysopsaro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm very happy that you got the TV working
    My Mum has a LOAD of experience with cleaning the head on VCRs

  • @8-bitcentral31
    @8-bitcentral31 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah with my VCR I find that sometimes a bad tape will do that. I just run a clean new self recorded tape in it for about an hour and gradually the picture comes back until it is bright and vibrant again.

  • @MikeSmith-sh3ko
    @MikeSmith-sh3ko ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the biggest problems with old tube TVs is that the line frequency oscillator breaks down the solder so first thing is always to resolder the ground tabs around the frame of the case. It uses the metal frame to give other parts of the TV a chassis ground 👍

    • @lucasRem-ku6eb
      @lucasRem-ku6eb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mike Smith
      Grounding issues, are you on 120 Volt grid in the US.
      I do ground them all, japan / Europe Eng versions only, the old Sony Trinitron 60 Ish models i collect, can you give me some tips, specially on the Japan dual systems i have some issues.

  • @neilthomas8070
    @neilthomas8070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see the TV working. I wish I could do the technical repairs; as we say over here. I'm cacky handed.

  • @BG101UK
    @BG101UK ปีที่แล้ว

    The clogged-head syndrome reminds me of those cheap no-name VHS cassettes, where if you left it on pause for a few seconds, you could watch the picture deteriorate into snow requiring another head cleaning operation. The opposite of course being those Memo-wrecks tapes which kept the heads perfectly clean by virtue of sanding them down, including the upper (and sometimes lower) drum.
    I tended to use thin card on its smooth side rather than paper though and gently rock the heads back and forth to dislodge the crud from the heads without stressing them. Mind you, back then König had pretty decent "pattern" replacement video heads for around a tenner trade, which seemed just as good as the originals and lasted well. Those were the days!

  • @alfonsotoledo8009
    @alfonsotoledo8009 ปีที่แล้ว

    hell yeah man! i would like to see more videos like this, very informative and useful.

  • @jjock3239
    @jjock3239 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very instructive video.

  • @user-Atamigaputer
    @user-Atamigaputer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant Adrian

  • @anthonyblacker8471
    @anthonyblacker8471 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I picked up a Logitech Harmony remote years ago, way back in the day, I figured if technology would leap forward and I got my hands on some old tech that none of the new remotes might work for old devices. Plus I had like 8 things in my bedroom back in the 90s or 2000s whenever I got that remote, it was nice it even worked my window air conditioner! Great remote!!

  • @GC1CEO
    @GC1CEO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew so many people who had either this model or a very similar one -- it was great for video gaming in college dorms because it wasn't too small but it wasn't large either.

  • @deanagoes2791
    @deanagoes2791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if i'm not mistaken the last to close down the picture tube manufacturing division was the china chunghwa company.

  • @Lightrunner.
    @Lightrunner. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CRT TV 😻😻😻😻
    Super nice repair vid👍👍👍👌

  • @maniatore2006
    @maniatore2006 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little devil that stops the TV from Working, great video, Thank you.

  • @OfficialEpsilon
    @OfficialEpsilon ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see you upload in 4k

  • @stephenhall6595
    @stephenhall6595 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in the UK and still have a Toshiba 14 inch colour crt tv in my bedroom which my Late Mother bought me in 2005. Still works and gives a good picture. My main set is a Sony flat screen. I am watching your video on a Toshiba laptop.

  • @tony359
    @tony359 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice repair! I'm a bit disappointed I didn't see any naked fire on the PCB, as it happened when I repaired mine! :)

  • @ChasLarge
    @ChasLarge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice one Adrian. Re the "broken VCR", the most likely cause of the failure was due to the tape being rewound after it was last used. I suspect that machine keeps the tape laced up in FF & REW so it's always in contact with the head drum. If you played the tape then rewound it, this is effectively dragging the tape backwards across the heads which can cause oxide shedding. It was never a problem with earlier VCRs that always unlaced the tape before FF or REW modes.
    Some engineers I knew back when always laced up mechs were introduced, said that this was not only to keep the tape against the control track head, so the tape counter could use the pulses to count the tape position in real time, but it was suggested that this was so the heads would wear more quickly causing the customer to buy a new machine earlier - in other words, the first steps towards built in obsolescence. I think they was just paranoid myself but then cheap video recorders rang the death knell of the TV & Video repair trade.

  • @Mr_Wh1
    @Mr_Wh1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everytime I see a 90s CRT I often get a strong nostalgia feeling. Good times.

  • @agranero6
    @agranero6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice detective work! And the VCR at the end was hilarious. I use alcohol swabs but this IPA on paper trick is nice and cheaper. I just don't like have too much flammable liquids at home.

  • @melkiorwiseman5234
    @melkiorwiseman5234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The Cap Plague." 😄 According to the story I heard, it was a case of industrial espionage which went very wrong. One capacitor manufacturer tried to steal another manufacturer's chemical formula for the insides of electrolytic capacitors, but the formula which they stole was the equivalent of an "early draft" which had not been properly balanced. The formula was followed exactly and because it was wrong, it caused the early failure of all of the capacitors manufactured by that company.
    Edit1: I just noticed that you have Cubic Player running in the background! I wish I could find more module files to play. The main problem with Cubic Player is that these days it has to be run through DosBox and that isn't always reliable.
    Edit2: I've had a TV with exactly that same problem. It started clicking when I tried to turn it on with the remote, then after a little while it would start up. The problem gradually got worse and worse until it wouldn't start at all. I replaced the power supply capacitors (they were bulging) and the problem went away. I've heard of caps going bad without bulging, though.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว

      I t used to be so common to open up a computer in the very late 90"s early 00's and see capacitors with the vents popped and dried electrolyte on top.
      Even 1 year old computers would start rebooting and freezing up, and you'd open the case and find split caps.
      In 05 I got a job doing desktop support and the guys that had been working there said an absolute boatload of the Dell computers the company was using (1600 person office) had this issue, they were replacing motherboards and pc's like crazy.

    • @adriansdigitalbasement
      @adriansdigitalbasement  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I run OCP on my Pentium with a SB16 and it just works perfectly. What a great program! I've been curating my module collection going back to my Amiga days. I liken it to a CD collection! As for the caps -- yeah I don't really get why it seems late 90s good brands are kind of junk too. I assume it was cost cutting to be more competitive with the stolen formulas? And that cheapening resulted in them going bad more quickly. Just such a difference between caps from the 80s....

  • @soliman15
    @soliman15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing, I just found 20 in Trinitron from the year 2002 and has similar problem to this one.

  • @raitshots
    @raitshots ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video 👍😎

  • @XeonProductions
    @XeonProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a similar version of this TV. The 20AF44, manufactured in October 2004. Really nice set though, I love the picture on it.

  • @steveb3885
    @steveb3885 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since the late 90s. Orion was building full chassis, not just the CRT. Almost everyone was outsourcing to Oriion to design and build their chassis for them.

  • @jrjgames
    @jrjgames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating!!

  • @supahvaporeon
    @supahvaporeon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear lord, that was our exact tv! We got rid of it because we got a modern LCD with a HDMI output to work with our cable boxes. I guess it got pitched by someone else and ended up with you.

  • @jessewgeek
    @jessewgeek ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you had a tape of the episode already, why didn’t you just fast forward to the solution?
    😂

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job, as mentioned elsewhere, I'd also check/swap other caps that are feeding the regulator that supplies that 5V rail, maybe even the pass transistor is a tad low in gain.

  • @zebo-the-fat
    @zebo-the-fat ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice fix

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cleaned out the garage, I had to dump old computer parts from the 1980-1990. Damn, well, I took them toe golden west swapmeet in huntigton beach. I found a guy, who purchased everting for $60.00. I was happy, I knew somoene could use all these old parts. I then went to Micro Center and purchased another Ipad. Downey California

  • @evensgrey
    @evensgrey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last manufacturer of CRTs was some company in India, who made the last CRTs as replacements for aviation displays.

  • @mohinderkaur6671
    @mohinderkaur6671 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice repair! Adrian's Analog basement for now!

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the AT is having fun in the background :) I have one of these TV's.. It was a thrift store rescue. I imagine its about 20 years old. It has some of the same issues this one does. I used to play the video from my digital camera which has video output.

  • @ajslim79
    @ajslim79 ปีที่แล้ว

    the YUV (component) input is quite nice to have

  • @69Dartman
    @69Dartman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have that exact same set I bought new back in the day. It still works and looks decent and it has low hours too.
    It's my last CRT TV left. Panasonic had the first semi flst screen called the GAO tube, excellent looking sets, then Sony came out with the actual flat tubes and everyone made similar sets. I live in deep outer SE Portland so I'm local to you and I have fixed TVs for years but no longer. I have a Beltron CRT rejuvinator and all kinds of tubes and tube testors stashed in my shed.
    I also had the Toshiba 34hfx84 crt HD sets from 2005 to about 2019. Excellent looking set and it just continued to work.

    • @mrnmrn1
      @mrnmrn1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here in Europe, Thomson was very early in making almost fully flat CRT TVs. The earliest I saw was from 1990-1992. They called it Thomson Planar, came first with the ICC5 chassis that was developed at around 1986-1988. The chassis needed an add-on board with a ton of correction coils and capacitors, because the flat CRT needed quite some trickery on the deflection for proper geometry (I think it wasn't just flat, it had a deflection angle greater than 110°, maybe it was 130°). They are as flat as most late "flat" CRTs on the inside. Because most "flat" CRTs are only fully flat on the outside, the inside still has some curve. Even lower-end flat Trinitrons, they are still cylindrical on the inside. I smashed some dead flat Trinitron tubes, and the aperture grille (so the screen, too) is actually curved. Probably the Bravia / XBR Trinitrons are fully flat on the inside as well, at least that is what they claim. But my cheap KV-29FX20 from 2001 definitely had a flat Trinitron tube that is curved inside. I smashed the dead tube that came out of it after 39k hours of operation without any failure (the TV might still work, I replaced the tube in it and gave it to my neighbour in around 2010).

  • @annareismith6843
    @annareismith6843 ปีที่แล้ว

    I notice that TV right off the first time I watched your videos. I had the same TV I used to play my old retro game consoles on and left it in my last house as I did not have room for it in my storage when I moved out. And was homeless in a shelter for 3 months tell I found a place. It is a great TV for retro gaming.

    • @adriansdigitalbasement
      @adriansdigitalbasement  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear you're back on your feet! Hopefully someone is using that TV still -- and someone didn't just throw it out. (Like this one, left on the street ...)

  • @ran2wild370
    @ran2wild370 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly was expecting to see the SCART!! My 2005 Samsung has 2 scart sockets one of them marked as RGB. I used to connect a DVD player there when it was working then dvd went completely bad a few years ago. The TV is still being used for watching some cartoons and music with an aerial broadcasting STB.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found an even older Toshiba CRT on the street too. Dragged it home and it still works. An older black 19" model. And now Toshiba and Ricoh are going to merge.

  • @JesterEric
    @JesterEric ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Tosh Gotta Toshiba. Its gotta Flatter Squarer Tube. Toshiba Man adverts made an impression on me. He had his own MSX computer game