I live in an apartment complex that loves to overcharge for everything. They wanted to charge $300/month for an electric charging stall. Told them to kick rocks at that price. Asked my employer if I could hook up to an existing NEMA 6-20 outlet near a door that they don't use. My boss said I could charge for free ✅. Always check with your employer.
$300/month for a stall is way out-of-bounds. That would be a huge income stream for the apartment that they don't deserve. That is too bad since that would be the correct solution.
@@sambira yeah they are terrible people lol. Unfortunately, in this market and where we need to live, we didn't have much of a choice. The property management company is called Connor Group. They're quite large in the U.S. Avoid at all costs. Luckily, I have an amazing employer 😁
@@traviswieser We charged $30 in my complex just to cover the power and the user had to pay to upgrade the service for that location if they want level 2 (ended up being about $800). Can't be metered / billed legally but a flat fee based on average driving/EPA is allowed.
Here's your reminder list to take away after watching. Thanks Ryan as I am awaiting delivery of a Model Y! Definitely went with the standard wheels, glad I ordered last fall. I wonder if Tesla offers their insurance in Washington state? 1. Buying too much (high price) range 2. Buying too little (for cold climates or long distance needs) range 3. Buying bigger wheels: decreased range and comfort 4. Buying full self driving - expensive and not a success yet 5. Putting off ordering: prices and wait times are still increasing 5.1 Not being prepared for charging your Tesla 6. Buying what you don't need or want because it's available (performance models are delivered sooner but cost more and are not as comfortable on the road) 7. Avoiding white seats: not as hot as black and Tesla's are easy to clean 8. Not checking for EV incentives: state, federal, local inc. charging infrastructure 9. Not inspecting on delivery - Tesla can have fit and finish problems 10. Not having the right insurance coverage - Tesla repairs are often costly 11. Not planning ahead for accessories - storage conveniences, screen saver, all-weather mats
EV rebates should be Point of Sale not on taxes, they should be initially and it makes it easier for consumers and the government can give these companies the difference
That would require the government to acknowledge Tesla' existence which they won't because Elon doesn't do unions. According to the Biden admin, GM is the world's leading EV manufacturer.
Yes, make them point of sale, and have the manufacturer submit the request to the government for the rebate. The Manufacturers raise the price of the car by the amount of the rebate so that is pure profit for them anyway.
@@billybeemus3929 electric car companies might shoot theirselves in the foot... all they're going to do is keep the ICE cars in view and I'm sure they're trying to innovate the ice car to make it better and better like they have with 100 years of innovation
I went for the model3 long range not just for the range. I wanted an awd car with premium audio system. The long range was there as well because I do 200mi weekend travels and my general rule of thumb with mileage is to subtract 100mi off the range to make up for audio, heater/AC, videos and all other auxiliary items. A simple rwd model just won’t suffice.
@@jjaus go for the performance of the range isn’t an issue. It’s more engaging and the throttle response is actually faster than the LR. I’m my opinion, I would’ve gone for the performance if I can do it all over again. Why? The performance is just a step up from the LR in almost every aspect; except long distance. If you want pure performance, go the top tier model 3. I just didn’t buy it because it was over 60k at my time of purchase vs 52k
Even worse than that! Because they don’t want you going below 20% on charge and above 80% so basically if you have a 300mi range vehicle you can only access 60% of that for daily use which is 180miles MINUS all that other stuff you spoke about so truly the vehicles range is closer to 150 😡
another reason to get the smaller wheels/larger tire is pot hole resistance to puncture or wheel damage. also behind the hubcaps of the 19" wheels is a nice set of spoked wheels.
Personally made all the right calls after watching this video today. Ordered a M3LR white on white with 18” wheels few weeks ago and I’m glad I did as this video reinforced my choices!
I’ve been driving my new M3LR for the past 3 weeks and I’m very happy with the decision. It’s not as long range as my gasoline car but considering the current gas price of $8/gallon, it makes sense getting what I did. I do a LOT of driving (200+ miles) and it makes sense going the long range. My principle still stands with taking 100mi off the range to make up for all ancillary features. Therefore, I’ll have enough room to not worry about charging and when I do need it, it’s supercharging it is! It takes a while to get used to the one pedal driving but it beats filling up at the pump.
It's surprising how cheap it is to drive an EV when you charge at home. I'm in a Nissan Leaf and my first few months were public free chargers (one of them still exists, but I leave it for others even though I could charge for free while at work). Charging at home is about $0.06/mile for most people. Compare that $1.80 to drive 30 miles to a gallon of gas for a 30MPG gas car. Even a Prius with 50MPG will struggle to compare to the $3 it costs us to drive those 50 miles. Even if you pay exorbitant prices of like $0.40-$0.50/kWh at public chargers, that's generally well under what gas costs.
The biggest reason to buy more range for long road trips even if you don't need it is shorter supercharging stops. The larger the battery, the faster you charge per mile of range.
When you can’t charge at home (like most people), that huge range just serves as more capacity to charge at max rate. This is nice for when you go to the supercharger once a week and can only stay for half an hour.
Ryan, you’re making my head spin…. I have a 2021 Model 3 SR+ (aka RWD). I have been on several road trips (~500-600 miles, one way). All I do is plug my starting point and my destination into Navigation. The car tells me where to stop and for how long (average stop is every 90-120 minutes, and each stop is average 20 minutes). That, I can handle! Works perfectly with breaks for bathroom/snacks/meals/stretches… I’m planning a cross country trip from CA to KY in a few weeks in my SR+. Using both Navigation and the app, A Better Route Planner, gives me the same average. No worries. Very workable! I’m not doing a Cannon Ball Run, nor am I interested in earning an Iron Butt Award (either of those, and $5, will get you a coffee at Starbucks). I want to enjoy my drive. If speed was the goal, I’d fly! As for charging at home, it takes me 10 SECONDS A DAY to charge, at most. More like 5 seconds. A couple seconds to plug the car in, and the same amount to unplug. How long does it take for the car to charge? I don’t know, and I DON’T CARE! I’m sleeping. The car takes care of it. I don’t care how long it takes my dishwasher to wash a load, either - I’m doing other stuff. (Sorry - I know all you fossil fuel people have to stand there every time and monitor your fueling. Been there, done that - no thanks!) Get some real world info out there with charging and EV ownership.
I ordered a Model Y with FSD on January 5th 2022. My delivery date was June/July. After I removed the FSD from my order last week my delivery date changed to August 12 thru October 7. The build is not effected by the change I made to my order. Tesla has punished me for not buying the FSD. Thanks for playin'.
FSD when used for cross country works awesome! I drove Seattle to Yosemite and back. All road exchanges were done correctly and even routed to superchargers! Only problem so far was a photo ticket in a school zone for 26 in a 20. Teslas don’t yet recognize school zone speed limit signs
Great video with some good food for thought. In colder climates, you will want to consider getting the bigger battery because of reduced range. If you think about resale, it will be easier to sell your car in the future for a higher premium with a bigger battery as well. I'm not sure if the higher future sale price justifies the cost of the battery today, but it is evident that it is much easier to sell a used Tesla with a bigger battery.
Very good video. I completely agree with your guidelines especially concerning range and not getting the full self-driving. We have it in our model 3 and it is a waste. We almost never use it because you still have to keep track of everything anyway. I only use it when stuck in traffic, but autopilot will still take care of that. The cream color interior with the model S is actually the best.
Hey Ryan - I just got off the phone with a lead rep from Tesla. He confirmed with me that their plan is to build the same spec model y from Fremont as they do in Austin. That is, if the 4680s start shipping from Austin, they will also be built and shipped from the Fremont factory simultaneously.
The big problem with white interior is the change from wood trim to metallic trim on the dashboard. In countries with a moderate amount of sun, they create very strong glare and can distract the driver. Best thing is to test drive both and make sure you are happy in strong lighting conditions.
I hear ya. Tesla is a great company. Elon Musk is a hero. They are doing the planet a favor by leading the EV revolution. All that is good. But yes, these videos tend to address rich people's problems. The most disappointing thing about Tesla to date (really, the only disappointing thing about them) has been their seeming abandonment of the idea of building a truly affordable EV. Too bad. I think they could have done it. And yes, I know that Elon believes that FSD will lead to the abandonment of private car ownership on a large scale, so building a cheap EV is a non starter. Maybe. I hope he's right
The other factor that impacts range is the terrain to be driven. There in the northeastern part of the country the majority of driving occurs in hilly terrain, which requires more energy (and it should be noted that downhill cruising doesn’t generally offset the energy expended in an uphill climb).
I agree. It is worth noting, however, that being smart about how you use the hills to regen as well as being gentle going up the hills can still keep your efficiency at a reasonable level. I live in a hilly town and I am literally living at the top of a hill and I get at least 4.2 miles/kWh in my Nissan Leaf. I imagine it'd be better in a Model 3, based on efficiency stats I've seen people getting. I know my regen is pretty weak. I can't even come to a stop with it. (I do, however, have to avoid charging to 100% because my car will actually accelerate a lot at the start of my trip and I assume it's because Leafs don't disable the regen at high charge state and the power's just going into the engine? I just have to break down the hill because my car wants to go go go.)
80,000 miles on my 2018 M3 LR wh/m efficiency is only-2% for winter and summer combined and only about 15% of all those miles are on the Freeway single digit temps in winter. A 70mph test is great but EPA tests for more than just one speed in a given environment. For me In the summer, highway driving 55-65 my 310 mile range M3 has gone 327 miles and arrived home with 25 miles left in the battery.
Thanks Ryan! I was in the market for a Tesla last summer but the price had recently gone up a few thousand dollars and delivery delays had gone up to one or two months. On top of that there were rumors of cars with 4680 batteries reaching production before the end of the year. Your _buy it now_ advice was spot on! The prices and wait times have ballooned since I made my purchase. I'm so glad I didn't wait.
The delays are a lot longer than Tesla is leading you to believe!! I ordered Sept 12 and Model Y long range is now estimated to July. Changing weekly!!
@@flip2609 Early _last summer_ the delays were only one or two months and that seemed ridiculously long back then. The delays were well documented in an extremely long thread at the Tesla Motors Club which eventually got deleted. There was a great sense of community and commiseration built up around that thread. I hope you get your car when you expect to and I hope it's worth the wait. I think it will be. Mine was.
I would like an affordable Tesla with rated range of 400-450 miles so I could count on 250 miles of range at highway speeds during the winter. My Model Y is rated at 330 miles of range. We travelled the same route twice last week - 150 miles of Interstate Highway driving. The speed limit was 70-80 mph - I kept our speed at 70 or slower. One trip had temps between 18 to 25 degrees, and the true range was 200-220 miles. The other trip had temps of 8 to 13 degrees, and the true range was 180-200 miles. I calculated the true range several times by dividing the remaining range on the Consumption screen be the percent of battery remaining. Variations were caused by terrain - going up and down hills. Driving 200+ miles in a day is common in South Dakota. Unless a trip is on the Interstate Highway, there are no superchargers. (Check map.) We are Tesla fans. Daughter has 2016 Model S, wife has 2018 Model 3, I got Model Y in December 2021. We are also investors in Tesla stock.
Hi Ryan, this video of yours, the first I have seen, is an excellent buyers guide. I am on my 4th Tesla now (2020 Model Y LR). For new buyers, charging is a very different experience compared to fueling a car. You really don't 'get' it until you have lived with the car for a few weeks (as I did in 2015, when the charging infrastructure was a mere shadow of what it is now). I think the two most important metrics to consider paying more for longer range are: 1) can you charge at home/are you a very lightweight user, and 2) do you make more than a half dozen or so 6+ hour drives per year. Regarding the included home charger, I have never had to charge for more than 12 hours, more like 1-3 hours a day once plugged in, especially as I normally only charge to 80%. Full charging is agreeably not recommended to preserve the energy capacity of your battery. Most people don't even know you can set your charge limit in the car or on the app. What cellphone or laptop lets or recommends you do that? Also, you must drive 200+ miles a day to find the home charger inadequate. The majority of people should live fine with an SR+. I too have not opted for the white interior, but if you have kids or pets or unless you don't completely despise black, I would not recommend the white. For tire size, people should also consider that larger rims mean thinner, less durable tires and easier damaged rims (think pot holes), and much pricier replacement. I have found Tesla's to be hard on tires in general. Small price to pay though for such amazing cars. Glad I found your channel, Dave
@@eyesuckle I would say both the acceleration and the weight but also I imagine its partially because higher performance tires are not as durable in general?
I don't need auto lane change but Summon is very useful feature especially when taking those end parking spots where the hedge is right at the edge and you're trying to keep as close to that end as possible to avoid door dings...or just for pulling out of the garage and back in after washing the car. Summon was standard with basic AP but now you have to get FSD to have it. Still, not worth $12K to add it just for Summon. Also, if you add FSD at vehicle purchase time, you'll end up paying the use tax on that in many states FOREVER vs adding it or subscribing to it later. Additionally, most insurance companies will not give you value for FSD if you've purchased it outright and your Tesla is totaled.
Some additional advice is consider is your possible future state of driving. That isn't an easy idea, but I say this because I bought a SR+, and while very happy with it, found myself needing more range after first year of ownership. I telework, and my office is 222 miles away. I have only went into the office once on the last 18 months. But I like to visit my son, and he moved further away. Now I am trading M3 SR+ and waiting on my M3 LR to show up. I can visit him without an issue, but I have an half an hour drive out of my way to charge up for 20 min. Then I slow charge at his place for 24+ hours (15% to 20% overnight), which means we have to drive another 20 minutes to the "local" SC when we go out. Still doable, but I realized I needed more than I thought I did when I purchased. SC are basically only on interstates (But not always). If you live/drive rural, and if you can afford it, you WANT the LR. Another note of caution is wind. One time there was a wind advisor. While I charged way more than I needed, with an estimated home arrival with 38%, the head wind dropped it down to 7%. I had to slow way down, draft a truck, and turn off climate control in winter. There was no more charge options, so this was my only way getting home. I ended arriving home with 15% because once I got close enough to home, I jumped off the interstate and took two lanes home. The slower speeds and stop and go in little towns helped a lot. But really who wants to always be looking at the battery % while driving?
Seems to me you always do a good job. That entails succinctness, thorough explanations, and strict adherence to the topic without corny emotional injections. So thanks Keep up the good work!
I might add another consideration. I'm a professional detailer. I had a retired upscale client who traded his Cadillac sedan for an early Model 3 a couple of years ago. After his wife passed away, he ordered a Model 3 and waited almost a year for it. He wasnt prepared for all the new technology, and traded it 2 weeks later on a Buick Enclave because he "couldn't drive it" Something to think about if you're not tech savvy.
@Adam Davis That depends on your job. Salesmen, field service people, and many other jobs require traveling from job to job throughout the day. Life isn’t as simple as you seem to think.
DONT WAIT TO ORDER! I almost placed an order last week but decided to wait til the following day. I woke up and saw another $1,000 price increase for the model y. Cheapest model y is now $59,990.
I thought I was locked in to a delivery price. Tesla notified me of a VIN matched to my order while I was on vacation, and gave me a choice of delivery dates from 2-3 days out...all while still on vacation. After I communicated this information to Tesla, I later learned that they auto-cancelled me. Nobody anywhere says there is anything they can do to help me. The Tesla customer service experience continues to fail. Meanwhile I'll be writing to Tesla corporate to see if anybody can help. I hope I don't have to take it up on Elon's twitter feed....or the Secretary of State, etc.
I’d like to see Tesla add ability to step thru radio stations with button on wheel instead of only favorites which aren’t usually available while traveling.
Yo! Thanks for your videos. My favorite tesla channel! I have had a y for over a year with several issues (including it shocking me while charging!) and over a month in the shop! Just ordered a 3 in hopes its a bit better and to cash in on used y prices.
I have to somewhat disagree with range. Range is one of those things where it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Range = Freedom. I'm definitely a "road trip warrior" and drive about 45,000 miles a year for my business. I would love to have a 3 or Y, but their range is still an issue for me.
The FSD actually Takes more time to recover the cost than 45 years. This is because on that $12,000, you are probably paying for it by a loan which has interest whereas the $199 a month does not have interest.
Thanks for the tips! Ordered my Model Y LR. Made the mistake with model 3 SR+ not realizing the challenge with road trips. Not going to make that mistake this time!
Range is definitely a big factor. But for me a standard range is perfectly fine. I only drive about 8 miles to work one way and go on spirited drives occasionally. My wife still has an ICE car and we use it for road trips.
When computer guys like cars, you get videos like this... What we need is an idiot in addition to this very well spoken, well informed and very responsible guy... Someone who says "You can get it delivered faster if you pay a little more AND IT'LL GO FASTER TOO!!" We need someone who doesn't give a crap about range for a week because they'll empty the batteries in a day (so you do need a long range performance model, with the tough suspension and lowered so you can get speeding tickets in a corner and look good in your bigger wheels too)
Great video. I’ve been seriously considering getting a model 3, but out of everything the thing that worries me the most is the wait time on repairs should I ever get in an accident. I keep reading about people who go 6 months without their car or being put on a month long waitlist just for the car to be looked at
Great Video Ryan as always! But I would really like one saying the importance of clicking the "Cash" purchase option when buying a Tesla. I ordered my MYLR in October and the EDD was in May. Then a few weeks later it changed to June. I could never figure out why there was no date range like I had seen on many other videos. It was not until this last week when I applied the financing option because I got preapproved and the EDD changed to Aug-Sept (which is a new vehicle EDD). I have seen other videos say a little about this but it has NEVER been explained that when you click "Cash" option you can change it later and it just locks you in. Can you please, please, please do a video about the importance of this? It really would have helped me our right now.
Same happened to me. I ordered August 11, 2021 with a November delivery date. I selected finance. Nov became December, then Jan, Then March, Then April, I went into Tesla in Jan and they told me I needed to select cash. I then got a Feb delivery date so we sold out other Model Y so we had the down payment for the new one. But now it says July. I am beyond screwed and frustrated because i sold my car. I have been borrowing and renting cars from Enterprise. Which is not cheap.
^This is a huge deal that no one talks about. Always select cash and complete all the steps right when you order. Then you can change the financing once you get your VIN.
That bit me too. I was originally scheduled for a January delivery, ordered in August…was pushed to March-April because I didn’t choose “cash”! Currently waiting for my VIN with expected delivery now saying Mar 21 - Apr 2.
I’m not following this thread. You get a car faster if you select cash at time of deposit? If I selected finance at time of deposit I should now change it to cash?
I"m watching this over 2 years later from the date the video was filmed and it seems the prices are 12000 LESS than quotes you've screen shotted so are the prices going DOWN on these? Or am I reading this wrong?
This is not true about road trips and supercharger convenience. We road trip 750 miles 2x a month in our Y and it's a pain. Consider fact 10% battery degradation, 20% drop in range when going 85 mph, possibly going into the wind, and temperature changes... and quite often only get 180-200 miles of range. Then add on to fact that you sometimes have to stop at a supercharger you would rather not because the next supercharger is outside of your range. Also, you only charge up to 100% before the first leg. 90% or less most of the time as charging speeds slows down dramatically.
Probably dont want to charge everyday or up to 100% all the time. Some folks say that wears out the battery faster. Also you never get the stated range since in real situation you may be carrying people or stuff in your car, drive inefficiently, or decided to use the fan, heater or AC. Have you noticed the price of rechargeable replacement batteries going up and so is the electricity, granted still lower than gas but with the initial high sticker price still hurts the wallet. Some day i would like an electric car, but at the moment, it is not too cost effective.
Hi Ryan, thanks so much for the insight. I've saved enough to buy a new Model 3 SR+ (51k euro). But now I've also found a second hand Model 3 LR from 2020 (white interior, heat pump apparently a late batch, possible?), 27k km driven) but this one costs 48k and the resellers is willing to buy my old car for 10K while Tesla only gives 7k. If I'd buy a new SR+ I'd miss the premium audio, all the other options missing aren't that important to me. It's a 6000 euro difference. What would you do in my situation? thanks for your time if you have a moment to read this.
Autosteer is limited to 80 mph, which is below the posted speed limit in much of the U.S. Since the actual speed limit is usually 10 mph more than that posted, this SUCKS BIG-TIME.
If you do 12 hour trip it will take double the time than if you have gas vehicle. EVs are awesome for going around town to work etc. but you will despise it going on a road trip.
04:38 Tom's range tests can be totally skewed since many of these are done is fair weather and at steady speeds which few drive. Add 0 degrees F and the range of any BEV is 20-30% less than rated. Seat heat and cabin heat sucks the life out of the battery. Not so bad in temperate climes, BUT in colder areas, heat is a range killer. So too range in HOT weather with AC on. NOT as bad as heat, but still bad. FL, NM and AZ beware because AC will also suck the range out of a battery and reduce it substantially.
@@CyrusMurphy Over a year? Doubtful unless you're charging it to 100% every night and basically abusing it. Probably 5% over 5 years, not 10% a year. We're starting to get more accurate statistics about degradation since the 2012 S Models are now getting evaluated for battery longevity. Much of it varies due to climate, charging characteristics etc. We do know that Long Term frequent high speed supercharging is hard on a battery though.
You chose "buying too much range" as your #1 mistake? 1) Lithium batteries decay much faster the more you push them towards their capacity limits? Tesla suggests charging their cars to around 70%, and not discharging it below 30% as often as possible. The larger you battery is, the easier it is to do this. 2) The more range we buy, the less the capacity decay will affect us over the time we own the car. 300-30% still leaves us with 200 miles of range. 200-30% leaves us with 134 miles of range. That's going to make a big difference when we go to sell the car, try to make it to the next supercharger. 3) As many others here have mentioned, with additional range comes additional freedom and life choices (especially in the US)
I went to a tesla dealership today. I walked in the showroom. They had zero i was allowed to sit in. There was an s model in the lot i was allowed to sit in. I felt ignored and abandoned. I just left.
Great Video. I would like to add please look into GAP insurance from insurance company. I didn't know this was an option. I have a family member who took delivery and 1 payment later got rear ended. Insurance agent ask why he didn't have GAP. Response was "I didn't know you offered that." This knowledge would have helped him pay off the loan. Tesla doesn't have a dealership so need to find your own Insurance products. A couple weeks ago RTL podcast episode 350 1:01:48 aired a PRO TIP: look for a new car replacement insurance product. I hope know can help verify this on his podcast. Maybe this is a video topic for you. Teslas need to have the right coverage right? Thanks for all you do for the Tesla Community.
Uh, "Buying too much range?" No, this is not a mistake. If you can afford it, buy as much range as you possibly can. Life changes, period. Also, more range is because of more battery capacity and that has several improvements... like a larger fast charging band... the more capacity you have means that 20-80% band is larger. Batteries degrade over time... a larger range now means a larger range later. Resale value, as well. As for FSD... we were planning to trade in our Model 3 AWD w/ FSD for a Model Y Performance w/ FSD. They are not taking into account my FSD on my trade-in. It would have made it a no-brainer to keep FSD since I only paid $6k for it, originally. I think I am planning to just keep the Model 3 because we are down to one vehicle right now and were planning to eventually get a 2nd vehicle... we'll just do it sooner. If the value of FSD continues to increase, the vehicle value should increase in private sale.
if you buy a tesla and pay an extra TWELVE THOUSAND BUX for fsd...... you should have the option to either sell it with the car, or keep it on your personal "tesla account" and be able to use it with ALL teslas you own, FOREVER. eg: you own a model S, 3, X and Y, but only have to spend the 12k one time ever but no matter what car you get in the fsd just works. even if its your wife driving the S and you're in the Y. but i bet actual reality is they demand you spend another 12k PER VEHICLE.....maximum greed.
Great channel. I drive about 100 miles a day. What range do you think would be good for me? Looking at a 2018 p100d model s. Est 335 miles. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
I want to purchase a new Model Y but the simple tasks of turning on/ are freaking me out. off the wipers and other actions that are locked into the screen only. That white interior looks great but give me a silver exterior paint option please!
I drive twice a week to work, which is 110 miles each way, 220 in total. Ideally, I’d make that trip in one charge. Is it possible with M3SR? Thank you.
Did anyone notice that in the comparison between price over time not only did the price increase 10K but the range decreased? Same wheels... maybe I am missing something.
One of the weird things is that in many states, like Texas, you have to buy car insurance for your Tesla before taking delivery. After delivery, you might be able to get the Tesla insurance depending upon your state.
I have to say you talk-about the supercharger network worldwide but its non existent in Aussie like it is in states so people will more likely to go for the higher range since the main cities here are like 400km+ from each other and not having superchargers along the way doesnt help getting the cheaper option
Charging an EV in public can be an accident waiting to happen. A criminal could easily target you there over a gas station. Less people around can bring a higher degree of opportunity.
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Afternoon Ryan ^^ If making a personal ad, might you please do so at beginning/end/both, rather than interrupting the flow of information?
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I live in an apartment complex that loves to overcharge for everything. They wanted to charge $300/month for an electric charging stall. Told them to kick rocks at that price. Asked my employer if I could hook up to an existing NEMA 6-20 outlet near a door that they don't use. My boss said I could charge for free ✅. Always check with your employer.
$300/month for a stall is way out-of-bounds. That would be a huge income stream for the apartment that they don't deserve. That is too bad since that would be the correct solution.
@@sambira yeah they are terrible people lol. Unfortunately, in this market and where we need to live, we didn't have much of a choice. The property management company is called Connor Group. They're quite large in the U.S. Avoid at all costs. Luckily, I have an amazing employer 😁
That is terrible. My complex lets your charge for free.
@@justinevans1515 Right. They're a huge property management company that loves making money over anything.
@@traviswieser We charged $30 in my complex just to cover the power and the user had to pay to upgrade the service for that location if they want level 2 (ended up being about $800). Can't be metered / billed legally but a flat fee based on average driving/EPA is allowed.
Here's your reminder list to take away after watching. Thanks Ryan as I am awaiting delivery of a Model Y! Definitely went with the standard wheels, glad I ordered last fall. I wonder if Tesla offers their insurance in Washington state?
1. Buying too much (high price) range
2. Buying too little (for cold climates or long distance needs) range
3. Buying bigger wheels: decreased range and comfort
4. Buying full self driving - expensive and not a success yet
5. Putting off ordering: prices and wait times are still increasing
5.1 Not being prepared for charging your Tesla
6. Buying what you don't need or want because it's available (performance models are delivered sooner but cost more and are not as comfortable on the road)
7. Avoiding white seats: not as hot as black and Tesla's are easy to clean
8. Not checking for EV incentives: state, federal, local inc. charging infrastructure
9. Not inspecting on delivery - Tesla can have fit and finish problems
10. Not having the right insurance coverage - Tesla repairs are often costly
11. Not planning ahead for accessories - storage conveniences, screen saver, all-weather mats
Thanks! I was sort of curious but not interested enough to watch.
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EV rebates should be Point of Sale not on taxes, they should be initially and it makes it easier for consumers and the government can give these companies the difference
That would require the government to acknowledge Tesla' existence which they won't because Elon doesn't do unions. According to the Biden admin, GM is the world's leading EV manufacturer.
@@lightning6117 lol at gm lol
Yes, make them point of sale, and have the manufacturer submit the request to the government for the rebate. The Manufacturers raise the price of the car by the amount of the rebate so that is pure profit for them anyway.
@@billybeemus3929 electric car companies might shoot theirselves in the foot... all they're going to do is keep the ICE cars in view and I'm sure they're trying to innovate the ice car to make it better and better like they have with 100 years of innovation
Absolutely!
I went for the model3 long range not just for the range. I wanted an awd car with premium audio system. The long range was there as well because I do 200mi weekend travels and my general rule of thumb with mileage is to subtract 100mi off the range to make up for audio, heater/AC, videos and all other auxiliary items. A simple rwd model just won’t suffice.
Great point!!!
I really don't need the range, or hardly ever. I'm buying it for the 4WD and performance.
@@jjaus go for the performance of the range isn’t an issue. It’s more engaging and the throttle response is actually faster than the LR. I’m my opinion, I would’ve gone for the performance if I can do it all over again.
Why?
The performance is just a step up from the LR in almost every aspect; except long distance. If you want pure performance, go the top tier model 3. I just didn’t buy it because it was over 60k at my time of purchase vs 52k
Even worse than that! Because they don’t want you going below 20% on charge and above 80% so basically if you have a 300mi range vehicle you can only access 60% of that for daily use which is 180miles MINUS all that other stuff you spoke about so truly the vehicles range is closer to 150 😡
another reason to get the smaller wheels/larger tire is pot hole resistance to puncture or wheel damage. also behind the hubcaps of the 19" wheels is a nice set of spoked wheels.
As an owner of the 20" Uberturbine wheels, this is true... They are so easy to damage on crappy roads
Personally made all the right calls after watching this video today. Ordered a M3LR white on white with 18” wheels few weeks ago and I’m glad I did as this video reinforced my choices!
I’ve been driving my new M3LR for the past 3 weeks and I’m very happy with the decision. It’s not as long range as my gasoline car but considering the current gas price of $8/gallon, it makes sense getting what I did.
I do a LOT of driving (200+ miles) and it makes sense going the long range. My principle still stands with taking 100mi off the range to make up for all ancillary features. Therefore, I’ll have enough room to not worry about charging and when I do need it, it’s supercharging it is!
It takes a while to get used to the one pedal driving but it beats filling up at the pump.
It's surprising how cheap it is to drive an EV when you charge at home. I'm in a Nissan Leaf and my first few months were public free chargers (one of them still exists, but I leave it for others even though I could charge for free while at work). Charging at home is about $0.06/mile for most people. Compare that $1.80 to drive 30 miles to a gallon of gas for a 30MPG gas car. Even a Prius with 50MPG will struggle to compare to the $3 it costs us to drive those 50 miles. Even if you pay exorbitant prices of like $0.40-$0.50/kWh at public chargers, that's generally well under what gas costs.
The biggest reason to buy more range for long road trips even if you don't need it is shorter supercharging stops. The larger the battery, the faster you charge per mile of range.
Also wouldn’t more range cause you to have to charge less, which could potentially save $ over the long term?
*Don’t buy too much range for that “one” road-trip you do every 3 years*
With a Tesla, you don't even need the most range given the Supercharging network.
It's more for emergencies and comfort. Get stuck in a highway shutdown for a fatal accident and you're at 20% you'll be cutting it close.
@@user-dd1bb4tw4r A Tesla can Idle for 45-50 hrs... but I would probably get some anxiety if I'm at 20% charge.
When you can’t charge at home (like most people), that huge range just serves as more capacity to charge at max rate. This is nice for when you go to the supercharger once a week and can only stay for half an hour.
What about people like us who travel a lot; I’m really worried about the price of gas too
Ryan, you’re making my head spin….
I have a 2021 Model 3 SR+ (aka RWD). I have been on several road trips (~500-600 miles, one way). All I do is plug my starting point and my destination into Navigation. The car tells me where to stop and for how long (average stop is every 90-120 minutes, and each stop is average 20 minutes). That, I can handle! Works perfectly with breaks for bathroom/snacks/meals/stretches…
I’m planning a cross country trip from CA to KY in a few weeks in my SR+. Using both Navigation and the app, A Better Route Planner, gives me the same average. No worries. Very workable!
I’m not doing a Cannon Ball Run, nor am I interested in earning an Iron Butt Award (either of those, and $5, will get you a coffee at Starbucks). I want to enjoy my drive. If speed was the goal, I’d fly!
As for charging at home, it takes me 10 SECONDS A DAY to charge, at most. More like 5 seconds. A couple seconds to plug the car in, and the same amount to unplug. How long does it take for the car to charge? I don’t know, and I DON’T CARE! I’m sleeping. The car takes care of it. I don’t care how long it takes my dishwasher to wash a load, either - I’m doing other stuff. (Sorry - I know all you fossil fuel people have to stand there every time and monitor your fueling. Been there, done that - no thanks!)
Get some real world info out there with charging and EV ownership.
I ordered a Model Y with FSD on January 5th 2022. My delivery date was June/July. After I removed the FSD from my order last week my delivery date changed to August 12 thru October 7. The build is not effected by the change I made to my order. Tesla has punished me for not buying the FSD. Thanks for playin'.
FSD when used for cross country works awesome! I drove Seattle to Yosemite and back. All road exchanges were done correctly and even routed to superchargers!
Only problem so far was a photo ticket in a school zone for 26 in a 20. Teslas don’t yet recognize school zone speed limit signs
Great video with some good food for thought. In colder climates, you will want to consider getting the bigger battery because of reduced range. If you think about resale, it will be easier to sell your car in the future for a higher premium with a bigger battery as well. I'm not sure if the higher future sale price justifies the cost of the battery today, but it is evident that it is much easier to sell a used Tesla with a bigger battery.
Very good video. I completely agree with your guidelines especially concerning range and not getting the full self-driving. We have it in our model 3 and it is a waste. We almost never use it because you still have to keep track of everything anyway. I only use it when stuck in traffic, but autopilot will still take care of that. The cream color interior with the model S is actually the best.
Hey Ryan - I just got off the phone with a lead rep from Tesla. He confirmed with me that their plan is to build the same spec model y from Fremont as they do in Austin. That is, if the 4680s start shipping from Austin, they will also be built and shipped from the Fremont factory simultaneously.
The big problem with white interior is the change from wood trim to metallic trim on the dashboard. In countries with a moderate amount of sun, they create very strong glare and can distract the driver. Best thing is to test drive both and make sure you are happy in strong lighting conditions.
not if you tint the windows
Ryan: “Are you looking to buy a Tesla?”
Me, after looking at my bank account: I can’t even afford the scale model, let alone the actual car!
I hear ya. Tesla is a great company. Elon Musk is a hero. They are doing the planet a favor by leading the EV revolution. All that is good. But yes, these videos tend to address rich people's problems. The most disappointing thing about Tesla to date (really, the only disappointing thing about them) has been their seeming abandonment of the idea of building a truly affordable EV.
Too bad. I think they could have done it.
And yes, I know that Elon believes that FSD will lead to the abandonment of private car ownership on a large scale, so building a cheap EV is a non starter. Maybe. I hope he's right
Buying too much range is never a mistake. You need that extra range as an insurance
The other factor that impacts range is the terrain to be driven. There in the northeastern part of the country the majority of driving occurs in hilly terrain, which requires more energy (and it should be noted that downhill cruising doesn’t generally offset the energy expended in an uphill climb).
I agree. It is worth noting, however, that being smart about how you use the hills to regen as well as being gentle going up the hills can still keep your efficiency at a reasonable level. I live in a hilly town and I am literally living at the top of a hill and I get at least 4.2 miles/kWh in my Nissan Leaf. I imagine it'd be better in a Model 3, based on efficiency stats I've seen people getting. I know my regen is pretty weak. I can't even come to a stop with it.
(I do, however, have to avoid charging to 100% because my car will actually accelerate a lot at the start of my trip and I assume it's because Leafs don't disable the regen at high charge state and the power's just going into the engine? I just have to break down the hill because my car wants to go go go.)
80,000 miles on my 2018 M3 LR wh/m efficiency is only-2% for winter and summer combined and only about 15% of all those miles are on the Freeway single digit temps in winter. A 70mph test is great but EPA tests for more than just one speed in a given environment. For me In the summer, highway driving 55-65 my 310 mile range M3 has gone 327 miles and arrived home with 25 miles left in the battery.
Buy the white seats! It makes the interior so much sexier
Thanks Ryan! I was in the market for a Tesla last summer but the price had recently gone up a few thousand dollars and delivery delays had gone up to one or two months. On top of that there were rumors of cars with 4680 batteries reaching production before the end of the year. Your _buy it now_ advice was spot on! The prices and wait times have ballooned since I made my purchase. I'm so glad I didn't wait.
The delays are a lot longer than Tesla is leading you to believe!! I ordered Sept 12 and Model Y long range is now estimated to July. Changing weekly!!
@@flip2609 Early _last summer_ the delays were only one or two months and that seemed ridiculously long back then.
The delays were well documented in an extremely long thread at the Tesla Motors Club which eventually got deleted. There was a great sense of community and commiseration built up around that thread.
I hope you get your car when you expect to and I hope it's worth the wait. I think it will be. Mine was.
@@flip2609 I ordered in September as well and just checked to see that my est delivery is now Aug-Sep. Pretty sure we started in March
@@Sondaroe You got played son, friend got in 3 months. Model Y, black seats, LR
Just get the performance MY and dont waste your time
I would like an affordable Tesla with rated range of 400-450 miles so I could count on 250 miles of range at highway speeds during the winter.
My Model Y is rated at 330 miles of range. We travelled the same route twice last week - 150 miles of Interstate Highway driving. The speed limit was 70-80 mph - I kept our speed at 70 or slower.
One trip had temps between 18 to 25 degrees, and the true range was 200-220 miles.
The other trip had temps of 8 to 13 degrees, and the true range was 180-200 miles.
I calculated the true range several times by dividing the remaining range on the Consumption screen be the percent of battery remaining.
Variations were caused by terrain - going up and down hills.
Driving 200+ miles in a day is common in South Dakota. Unless a trip is on the Interstate Highway, there are no superchargers. (Check map.)
We are Tesla fans. Daughter has 2016 Model S, wife has 2018 Model 3, I got Model Y in December 2021. We are also investors in Tesla stock.
Hi Ryan, this video of yours, the first I have seen, is an excellent buyers guide. I am on my 4th Tesla now (2020 Model Y LR).
For new buyers, charging is a very different experience compared to fueling a car. You really don't 'get' it until you have lived with the car for a few weeks (as I did in 2015, when the charging infrastructure was a mere shadow of what it is now). I think the two most important metrics to consider paying more for longer range are: 1) can you charge at home/are you a very lightweight user, and 2) do you make more than a half dozen or so 6+ hour drives per year.
Regarding the included home charger, I have never had to charge for more than 12 hours, more like 1-3 hours a day once plugged in, especially as I normally only charge to 80%. Full charging is agreeably not recommended to preserve the energy capacity of your battery. Most people don't even know you can set your charge limit in the car or on the app. What cellphone or laptop lets or recommends you do that? Also, you must drive 200+ miles a day to find the home charger inadequate. The majority of people should live fine with an SR+.
I too have not opted for the white interior, but if you have kids or pets or unless you don't completely despise black, I would not recommend the white.
For tire size, people should also consider that larger rims mean thinner, less durable tires and easier damaged rims (think pot holes), and much pricier replacement. I have found Tesla's to be hard on tires in general. Small price to pay though for such amazing cars.
Glad I found your channel, Dave
Could you elaborate a little on finding Teslas to be hard on tires? I'm curious. Is it the quick acceleration? That the cars are on the heavy side?
@@eyesuckle I would say both the acceleration and the weight but also I imagine its partially because higher performance tires are not as durable in general?
I don't need auto lane change but Summon is very useful feature especially when taking those end parking spots where the hedge is right at the edge and you're trying to keep as close to that end as possible to avoid door dings...or just for pulling out of the garage and back in after washing the car. Summon was standard with basic AP but now you have to get FSD to have it. Still, not worth $12K to add it just for Summon.
Also, if you add FSD at vehicle purchase time, you'll end up paying the use tax on that in many states FOREVER vs adding it or subscribing to it later.
Additionally, most insurance companies will not give you value for FSD if you've purchased it outright and your Tesla is totaled.
Some additional advice is consider is your possible future state of driving. That isn't an easy idea, but I say this because I bought a SR+, and while very happy with it, found myself needing more range after first year of ownership. I telework, and my office is 222 miles away. I have only went into the office once on the last 18 months. But I like to visit my son, and he moved further away. Now I am trading M3 SR+ and waiting on my M3 LR to show up. I can visit him without an issue, but I have an half an hour drive out of my way to charge up for 20 min. Then I slow charge at his place for 24+ hours (15% to 20% overnight), which means we have to drive another 20 minutes to the "local" SC when we go out. Still doable, but I realized I needed more than I thought I did when I purchased. SC are basically only on interstates (But not always). If you live/drive rural, and if you can afford it, you WANT the LR.
Another note of caution is wind. One time there was a wind advisor. While I charged way more than I needed, with an estimated home arrival with 38%, the head wind dropped it down to 7%. I had to slow way down, draft a truck, and turn off climate control in winter. There was no more charge options, so this was my only way getting home. I ended arriving home with 15% because once I got close enough to home, I jumped off the interstate and took two lanes home. The slower speeds and stop and go in little towns helped a lot. But really who wants to always be looking at the battery % while driving?
Buying too LITTLE range, should be the #1 mistake.
Seems to me you always do a good job. That entails succinctness, thorough explanations, and strict adherence to the topic without corny emotional injections. So thanks Keep up the good work!
I might add another consideration. I'm a professional detailer. I had a retired upscale client who traded his Cadillac sedan for an early Model 3 a couple of years ago. After his wife passed away, he ordered a Model 3 and waited almost a year for it. He wasnt prepared for all the new technology, and traded it 2 weeks later on a Buick Enclave because he "couldn't drive it" Something to think about if you're not tech savvy.
If you need to drive 250 miles a day, better to upgrade to a gas engine car.
@Adam Davis That depends on your job. Salesmen, field service people, and many other jobs require traveling from job to job throughout the day. Life isn’t as simple as you seem to think.
DONT WAIT TO ORDER! I almost placed an order last week but decided to wait til the following day. I woke up and saw another $1,000 price increase for the model y. Cheapest model y is now $59,990.
I thought I was locked in to a delivery price. Tesla notified me of a VIN matched to my order while I was on vacation, and gave me a choice of delivery dates from 2-3 days out...all while still on vacation. After I communicated this information to Tesla, I later learned that they auto-cancelled me. Nobody anywhere says there is anything they can do to help me. The Tesla customer service experience continues to fail. Meanwhile I'll be writing to Tesla corporate to see if anybody can help. I hope I don't have to take it up on Elon's twitter feed....or the Secretary of State, etc.
The only point I would quibble with is #5. There are valid reasons for waiting, in particular till after Austin ramps up and Fremont id refurb'd.
I’d like to see Tesla add ability to step thru radio stations with button on wheel instead of only favorites which aren’t usually available while traveling.
This has been quite informative and makes evaluating which Tesla I want a lot easier.
Yo! Thanks for your videos. My favorite tesla channel! I have had a y for over a year with several issues (including it shocking me while charging!) and over a month in the shop! Just ordered a 3 in hopes its a bit better and to cash in on used y prices.
I have to somewhat disagree with range. Range is one of those things where it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Range = Freedom. I'm definitely a "road trip warrior" and drive about 45,000 miles a year for my business. I would love to have a 3 or Y, but their range is still an issue for me.
Yeah, this guy's #1 mistake is buying too much range? I'd say the opposite is true. Buying too little range, is the#1 mistake.
Thanks Ryan! I am having a wall charger installed tomorrow. So, listened carefully to your tips.
The FSD actually Takes more time to recover the cost than 45 years. This is because on that $12,000, you are probably paying for it by a loan which has interest whereas the $199 a month does not have interest.
Having the Performance and crushing a GT 3 RS at 0-100.... Priceless!!
You lost me at “clean with some degree of regularity.”
As a car guy I’d never pay 4500 for upgraded wheels hand picked from Tesla, you can get some real nice SSR wheels for about 2k for the set
I would mention that the white seats are also softer than the black seats. -Owner of Model 3 Performance 2022.
Thanks for the tips! Ordered my Model Y LR. Made the mistake with model 3 SR+ not realizing the challenge with road trips. Not going to make that mistake this time!
Just ordered the Y model in grey with the white interior two weeks ago. This video was extremely helpful. Thanks for the info!
Range is definitely a big factor. But for me a standard range is perfectly fine. I only drive about 8 miles to work one way and go on spirited drives occasionally. My wife still has an ICE car and we use it for road trips.
Ryan I found this TH-cam video to be very informative and helpful 👍🏻👍🏻
In the UK, full self driving only costs 6800 pounds (8866 dollars).
"only"? It's not even the same functions. FSD is highly restricted in EU.
Dang . I ordered my white Model 3 in October and I might have made 11 mistakes already. I don’t think they even have 11 options
Thanks for the info. Just ordered Model 3 and Model Y. Your channel will be my #1 choice with anything Tesla, subscribed.
You're the only guy I go to for my Tesla news No BS
very in-depth coverage 👍
Buy the stock wheels, you can always by a new set for less than the Tesla upgrade, and you have two sets for the price of one. Good for snow driving.
Now that's smart!
Ouch that advice didn't age well! "Don't wait to buy! Prices keep going up!" Lmfao
When computer guys like cars, you get videos like this... What we need is an idiot in addition to this very well spoken, well informed and very responsible guy... Someone who says "You can get it delivered faster if you pay a little more AND IT'LL GO FASTER TOO!!" We need someone who doesn't give a crap about range for a week because they'll empty the batteries in a day (so you do need a long range performance model, with the tough suspension and lowered so you can get speeding tickets in a corner and look good in your bigger wheels too)
Inventory prices were just at $36,220 for a grey Model 3... I was so close to pulling the trigger but I wasn't quick enough
Ordered my Model 3 with LFP 🔋
Delivery in July
Can't wait😎
Do you have a date yet? For delivery
@@nikkilucila5061
Between the last half of July and 1st half of August is the current range
Just orderd model y performance. Now i read that the ride quality with the 21” Wheels is really bad. Can it really be that bad?
If you like driving as opposed to floating, you'll be fine!
I want a Tesla so bad but I can’t afford it for now. But I know the longer I wait I risk having to pay a much higher price 😭😭
Great video. I’ve been seriously considering getting a model 3, but out of everything the thing that worries me the most is the wait time on repairs should I ever get in an accident. I keep reading about people who go 6 months without their car or being put on a month long waitlist just for the car to be looked at
310 might b a 12 percent decrease in range, but going from 55 to 70 mph is more than a 25 percent increase!
Great Video Ryan as always! But I would really like one saying the importance of clicking the "Cash" purchase option when buying a Tesla. I ordered my MYLR in October and the EDD was in May. Then a few weeks later it changed to June. I could never figure out why there was no date range like I had seen on many other videos. It was not until this last week when I applied the financing option because I got preapproved and the EDD changed to Aug-Sept (which is a new vehicle EDD). I have seen other videos say a little about this but it has NEVER been explained that when you click "Cash" option you can change it later and it just locks you in. Can you please, please, please do a video about the importance of this? It really would have helped me our right now.
Same happened to me. I ordered August 11, 2021 with a November delivery date. I selected finance. Nov became December, then Jan, Then March, Then April, I went into Tesla in Jan and they told me I needed to select cash. I then got a Feb delivery date so we sold out other Model Y so we had the down payment for the new one. But now it says July. I am beyond screwed and frustrated because i sold my car. I have been borrowing and renting cars from Enterprise. Which is not cheap.
^This is a huge deal that no one talks about. Always select cash and complete all the steps right when you order. Then you can change the financing once you get your VIN.
That bit me too. I was originally scheduled for a January delivery, ordered in August…was pushed to March-April because I didn’t choose “cash”! Currently waiting for my VIN with expected delivery now saying Mar 21 - Apr 2.
I’m not following this thread. You get a car faster if you select cash at time of deposit? If I selected finance at time of deposit I should now change it to cash?
@@johntazbaz1121 Yes, If you select finance then every month you get put back to the end of the line.
I"m watching this over 2 years later from the date the video was filmed and it seems the prices are 12000 LESS than quotes you've screen shotted so are the prices going DOWN on these? Or am I reading this wrong?
This is not true about road trips and supercharger convenience. We road trip 750 miles 2x a month in our Y and it's a pain. Consider fact 10% battery degradation, 20% drop in range when going 85 mph, possibly going into the wind, and temperature changes... and quite often only get 180-200 miles of range. Then add on to fact that you sometimes have to stop at a supercharger you would rather not because the next supercharger is outside of your range. Also, you only charge up to 100% before the first leg. 90% or less most of the time as charging speeds slows down dramatically.
The Mistake #8 credits thing my mind flashed to those drunk guys on Taris in KOTOR 1 "you got any credits shlummy?"
Probably dont want to charge everyday or up to 100% all the time. Some folks say that wears out the battery faster. Also you never get the stated range since in real situation you may be carrying people or stuff in your car, drive inefficiently, or decided to use the fan, heater or AC. Have you noticed the price of rechargeable replacement batteries going up and so is the electricity, granted still lower than gas but with the initial high sticker price still hurts the wallet. Some day i would like an electric car, but at the moment, it is not too cost effective.
Hi Ryan, thanks so much for the insight. I've saved enough to buy a new Model 3 SR+ (51k euro). But now I've also found a second hand Model 3 LR from 2020 (white interior, heat pump apparently a late batch, possible?), 27k km driven) but this one costs 48k and the resellers is willing to buy my old car for 10K while Tesla only gives 7k. If I'd buy a new SR+ I'd miss the premium audio, all the other options missing aren't that important to me. It's a 6000 euro difference.
What would you do in my situation? thanks for your time if you have a moment to read this.
@@gregp.7148 Last week I ordered a new Model 3 on the Tesla website. Arriving February 2023 though :(
Autosteer is limited to 80 mph, which is below the posted speed limit in much of the U.S.
Since the actual speed limit is usually 10 mph more than that posted, this SUCKS BIG-TIME.
What an awesome post for news buyers. Thanks so much and even the info on VPN 👍
If you do 12 hour trip it will take double the time than if you have gas vehicle. EVs are awesome for going around town to work etc. but you will despise it going on a road trip.
04:38 Tom's range tests can be totally skewed since many of these are done is fair weather and at steady speeds which few drive. Add 0 degrees F and the range of any BEV is 20-30% less than rated. Seat heat and cabin heat sucks the life out of the battery. Not so bad in temperate climes, BUT in colder areas, heat is a range killer. So too range in HOT weather with AC on. NOT as bad as heat, but still bad. FL, NM and AZ beware because AC will also suck the range out of a battery and reduce it substantially.
Don't forget battery degrades about 10% of capacity over a year.
@@CyrusMurphy Over a year? Doubtful unless you're charging it to 100% every night and basically abusing it. Probably 5% over 5 years, not 10% a year. We're starting to get more accurate statistics about degradation since the 2012 S Models are now getting evaluated for battery longevity. Much of it varies due to climate, charging characteristics etc. We do know that Long Term frequent high speed supercharging is hard on a battery though.
@@letsgobrandon5800 Our Y has lost 10% over a year. It has not lost much since then. This is a known pattern
@@CyrusMurphy Known where? My Model 3 , Y and S never lost that much over a year, although I do recognize that degradation IS a thing.
@@CyrusMurphy have you recalibrated your battery? Run it down to below 10% and then charge to max (100%). This should be done every few months.
You chose "buying too much range" as your #1 mistake?
1) Lithium batteries decay much faster the more you push them towards their capacity limits? Tesla suggests charging their cars to around 70%, and not discharging it below 30% as often as possible. The larger you battery is, the easier it is to do this.
2) The more range we buy, the less the capacity decay will affect us over the time we own the car. 300-30% still leaves us with 200 miles of range. 200-30% leaves us with 134 miles of range. That's going to make a big difference when we go to sell the car, try to make it to the next supercharger.
3) As many others here have mentioned, with additional range comes additional freedom and life choices (especially in the US)
I want one with 500mph nothing less, and 600 miles would be nice but I guess technology hasn't got that far yet
I mean it might sound awesome but it has definitely has downside to it. It could decrease the speed and make it slower due to heavy battery.
How often do you drive 500 - 600 miles NON STOP?
I went to a tesla dealership today. I walked in the showroom. They had zero i was allowed to sit in. There was an s model in the lot i was allowed to sit in. I felt ignored and abandoned. I just left.
Great Video. I would like to add please look into GAP insurance from insurance company. I didn't know this was an option. I have a family member who took delivery and 1 payment later got rear ended. Insurance agent ask why he didn't have GAP. Response was "I didn't know you offered that." This knowledge would have helped him pay off the loan. Tesla doesn't have a dealership so need to find your own Insurance products. A couple weeks ago RTL podcast episode 350 1:01:48 aired a PRO TIP: look for a new car replacement insurance product. I hope know can help verify this on his podcast. Maybe this is a video topic for you. Teslas need to have the right coverage right? Thanks for all you do for the Tesla Community.
If you have one, what is your opinion on buying a pre-owned Model 3 that is blue and possibly have it vinyl wrapped in red. I prefer red.
I have always appreciated how you present the good and the bad about EV’s. Good video 👍🏻
The range discussion makes sense for a car, but do you think the considerations change when talking about trucks?
Uh, "Buying too much range?" No, this is not a mistake. If you can afford it, buy as much range as you possibly can. Life changes, period. Also, more range is because of more battery capacity and that has several improvements... like a larger fast charging band... the more capacity you have means that 20-80% band is larger. Batteries degrade over time... a larger range now means a larger range later. Resale value, as well.
As for FSD... we were planning to trade in our Model 3 AWD w/ FSD for a Model Y Performance w/ FSD. They are not taking into account my FSD on my trade-in. It would have made it a no-brainer to keep FSD since I only paid $6k for it, originally. I think I am planning to just keep the Model 3 because we are down to one vehicle right now and were planning to eventually get a 2nd vehicle... we'll just do it sooner. If the value of FSD continues to increase, the vehicle value should increase in private sale.
if you buy a tesla and pay an extra TWELVE THOUSAND BUX for fsd......
you should have the option to either sell it with the car, or keep it on your personal "tesla account" and be able to use it with ALL teslas you own, FOREVER.
eg: you own a model S, 3, X and Y, but only have to spend the 12k one time ever but no matter what car you get in the fsd just works. even if its your wife driving the S and you're in the Y.
but i bet actual reality is they demand you spend another 12k PER VEHICLE.....maximum greed.
Great channel. I drive about 100 miles a day. What range do you think would be good for me? Looking at a 2018 p100d model s. Est 335 miles. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
I'm looking for the white interior because i live in spain and black gets so freaking hot in the sun.
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I want to purchase a new Model Y but the simple tasks of turning on/ are freaking me out. off the wipers and other actions that are locked into the screen only. That white interior looks great but give me a silver exterior paint option please!
I drive twice a week to work, which is 110 miles each way, 220 in total. Ideally, I’d make that trip in one charge. Is it possible with M3SR? Thank you.
FSD price is crazy
Nice! I followed this advice on my 2022 MYLR Blue with White. Gemini wheels. Thank you
Good job man.. Great review
Look at those taycans hugely outperforming their EPAs. I know ford does this sort of thing too, where they quote you a more accurate range
Why did replacing a cracked windshield cost 1000$ AFTER a deduction? The glass isn't any different than a normal car windshield glass.
Great video. Subscribed. 👍
Did anyone notice that in the comparison between price over time not only did the price increase 10K but the range decreased? Same wheels... maybe I am missing something.
Lfp batteries?
One of the weird things is that in many states, like Texas, you have to buy car insurance for your Tesla before taking delivery. After delivery, you might be able to get the Tesla insurance depending upon your state.
I have to say you talk-about the supercharger network worldwide but its non existent in Aussie like it is in states so people will more likely to go for the higher range since the main cities here are like 400km+ from each other and not having superchargers along the way doesnt help getting the cheaper option
The major Tesla Car craft issue is because it's made in USA LOL
It's the worker problem.
Excellent Ryan
For the seats, just buy a seat cover lol
Curious, wouldn’t having more range mean that you are charging the battery less, which could lead to more savings long term?
Charging an EV in public can be an accident waiting to happen. A criminal could easily target you there over a gas station. Less people around can bring a higher degree of opportunity.
I wish I could downgrade the MYP wheels. I know we won’t be happy with the 21” wheel ride.