The Thai Cave Rescue | A Slight Change of Plans | Maya Shankar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Dr. Richard “Harry” Harris is an anesthesiologist and expert cave diver who was tasked with a seemingly impossible mission: to rescue a boys’ soccer team trapped 2.5 miles deep within a flooded cave in Thailand. He talks with Maya about his decision to heed the call.
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ABOUT A SLIGHT CHANGE OF PLANS
Named by Apple as the Best Show of the Year 2021, host Dr. Maya Shankar blends compassionate storytelling with the science of human behavior to help us understand who we are, and who we become, in the face of a big change.
You’ll hear extraordinary stories of change from celebrities like Tiffany Haddish, Kacey Musgraves, and Riz Ahmed, as well as real-life inspirations like Christine Ha, who became permanently blind in her early twenties and went on to win the reality TV show Master Chef; Richard Harris, the Australian doctor who rescued a boys’ soccer team trapped deep inside of a cave in Thailand; and Euna Lee, the Korean-American journalist who was held captive in North Korea for 140 days. The show also features science experts, like Adam Grant, Angela Duckworth, and Katy Milkman, who share strategies for how we can live happier and more fulfilling lives.
ABOUT DR. MAYA SHANKAR
Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist who served as a Senior Advisor in the Obama White House, where she founded and served as Chair of the White House Behavioral Science Team. She also served as the first Behavioral Science Advisor to the United Nations under Ban Ki-moon, and as a core member of Pete Buttigieg’s debate preparation team during his presidential run. Maya has a postdoctoral fellowship in cognitive neuroscience at Stanford, a Ph.D. from Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship, and a B.A. from Yale. She has been profiled by The New Yorker and has been featured in The New York Times, Scientific American, and Forbes. She’s also been the featured guest on NPR’s All Things Considered, Freakonomics, and Hidden Brain. She’s a former private violin student of Itzhak Perlman and graduate of The Juilliard School’s pre-college program. Maya is currently a Senior Director of Behavioral Economics at Google.
ABOUT PUSHKIN INDUSTRIES
Pushkin Industries is an audio production company dedicated to creating premium content in a collaborative environment. Co-founded by Malcolm Gladwell and Jacob Weisberg in 2018, Pushkin has launched seven new shows into the top 10 on Apple Podcasts (Against the Rules, The Happiness Lab, Solvable, Cautionary Tales, Deep Cover, The Last Archive, and Lost Hills), in addition to producing the hugely successful Revisionist History. Pushkin’s growing audiobook catalogue includes includes the bestselling biography “Fauci,” by Michael Specter, “Hasta La Vista, America,” Kurt Andersen’s parody Trump farewell speech performed by Alec Baldwin, "Takeover" by Noah Feldman, and “Talking to Strangers,” from Pushkin co-founder Malcolm Gladwell. Pushkin is dedicated to producing audio in any format that challenges listeners and inspires curiosity and joy.
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By far the best interview of Doctor Harris.
I'm obsessed with the story of the Thai Cave Rescue and read or watch everything I find about it; that's no doubt why this popped up on my feed. I have to say I was very impressed by this interview. Dr. Shankar was obviously well prepared and asked perceptive and intelligent questions. Dr. Harris has told his stories many times and I've heard some of them word-for-word several times before, but Dr Shankar managed to elicit deeper and more enlightening responses from him, by knowing what she was talking about and encouraging him to go a little deeper into his feelings and his perceptions of the extraordinary events he was involved in. That made this podcast more valuable and interesting than I expected. Very well done--thank you.
I feel the same.
Dr Harry and the British divers at pointy end of this rescue have all shown such humility. They baulk at the idea that they are heroes and credit the success of the rescue to all the agencies and volunteers involved and the courage of the boys and their coach who remained calm and steadfast never giving up hope. Overall you have to say humanity at its best - maybe we're not so bad after all.
Amen 🌎🙏
The mark of a true hero, giving credit to others. Real heroes really are self-effacing. They’re not even faking that.
Remarkable to hear about how difficult this really was, all the decisions along the way. Incredible moral and physical courage.
"We often assess the quality of our decisions based on their outcomes, not on the quality of the decision-making process."
Such a perceptive encapsulation of the situation the rescue divers were dealing with. What an impressive interviewer. And an even more impressive Doctor. We're so ready to judge clinicians if things go wrong, but we aren't the ones who have to step up to the plate and make a choice under such fraught circumstances. What a great conversation.
True hero. Great human
Great interview. I like your interviewing style.
You're an excellent interviewer. It would be great if there was video.
She asks good questions and lets him speak.
Really good interview. I learned a lot I didn’t know, even having listened to as much as I could find elsewhere.
Yea I unicycle and skateboard and am 51 on a whole food plant diet