9:20 "In this little floppy [disk], you have 720kb of storage, so inside the unit you have the ability to have 1.5mb of storage, which is really enough for most applications."
@28:04 California DMV announced they are finally almost done catching up from the 1985 backlog and apologize for the 35 year process. One employee, Fred, mentions, "Yea, I was hired in 1985 to work on this project. Been doing it my whole career and now I'm retiring, glad I almost got it done."
I feel quite amazed. I remember a time when the computer was a keyboard connected to a TV, a Walkman connected to the keyboard, cassettes with whatever program you wanted to run (in my case, video games) and graphic that had not that much to do with what you are seeing these days, when the concept of an e-mail was Steven Spielberg movies domain, or Star Trek. A time when that brick game, was an actual console, that was running only that game, on lcd screens that later I was going to stare at, at night when I couldn’t sleep, on cell phone, which with the passing of time turned from ginormous bricks to these plastic and metal bits, that I am holding in my hand, typing this comment while waiting the update of GT Sport to finish, so I can race online on a huge Hd Display... in some 20 years.
This look back into the "early days" of computing is very interesting, especially the myopic view of what the average user needs. I felt sorry for George Morrow. He was talking up his portable computers, but his company went belly up later the same year.
It didn't take long after that. I remember using a colour LCD in the early '90s on a friend's laptop.... Sega's Game Gear had colour LCD, as did Atari's handheld, so it had to have been around by at least the late '80s.
@@isuzuhombre-lx7jr They are still only a small marginal improvement over high quality LCD screens. Screen quality is unlikely to improve that much in the next 35 years (as compared to the improvements since 35 years ago). There really isn't much more to do with video other than changing it completely to a new novel type, like holographic screens or something. Screens already exceed 300ppi. The best screens look as good as print. Getting bigger isn't much of an issue, especially for handhelds. That limitation is being imposed by pockets, not technology. I don't see TVs getting that much bigger. 60" is already pushing the limits of the comfort of viewing a screen.
Watching show starting with 1983 going from 84 to 85 its like night and day in what tech can do. Some 85 shows were on the 84 list I saw a real difference in capability.
And the next stop for you would be locked at a secret government facility deep down in the middle of nowhere trying to explain how you own such super hi tech toys :)
Am I the only person that finds these older laptops way more sexy than today's crap? Bring back the style from this Era, just leave the 10k price tag behind!😮😮😮
Despites the technology wasn't there yet at that time ,but people just wanted to have a portible pc for on the go to spread sheets but even in 1985,peoples were already complaiming abaut blurrish & b&w lcd screena,low lifespen. Their dream for a color lcd screen became reality a few years later.
Opening scene: what progress! Before, you carried around a puny piece of paper with an address written on it. Now (1985), you carry around a 5 lb. laptop computer to store the address of where you are going. Oh, brave new world!
In the 35 yrs since this episode, we have come up with smartwatches more powerful than anything showcased here. Wonder what will happen in the next 35.
Well they will need to invent a new technology, maws law has almost come to a halt. They will need to move away from binary computers somehow. Maybe Quantium computers will become stable enough for everyday use ?
So now every idiot carries a supercomputer in their pocket that they use to browse TikTok and Twitter when they should be looking you in the face when talking. We really have come a long way.
80 x 25 char at 640 x 256px monochrome display??? Olympus OM-D EM5 EVF is around 0.5" with 1024 x 768px & 16 Millions colors. circa 1993 : 20 years ago, computer will fill the whole room, it's portable now. circa 2013 : 20 years ago, portables are about the same size as today, cause if we make it smaller, we'd have difficulties to use it; especially Input/Output. Different computing capabilities though.
CP/M is well known and so is Gary. He's a better programmer than Bill Gates, but isn't as salesman nor as cutthroat as Gates. If Gary even got the IBM deal with the XT, he no doubt wouldn't have licensed it and it would have been killed off by OS/2.
@@HardCase1911 He was not that off, the "needle" he mentions is now the smartphone, as far I know, there are more active smartphones than laptops/portable computers.
+Wattstone I love watching these for that reason. They talk about 128kb. wow. If they saw my 64GB thumb drive they'd have heart attacks, especially when they heard the price.
"especially when they heard the price." Oh yeah, while the technology has become more capable, it's come *WAY* down in price. Case in point, The Raspberry Pi Zero, given away on the cover of a magazine... in 1985, you got demos of games on a tape on the cover of a magazine, the Raspberry Pi Zero is a full blown *computer* given away on the cover of a magazine with capabilities that 1985 could only dream of (it knocked even the Amiga into a cocked hat)
All of man's combined knowledge accessible from a device that fits in the palm of your hand. Imagine showing Da Vinci that device..... Fast forward to modern humans and what do we use it for? Gormless social media, cat videos, porn? Sad clown world. *
I would sell my phone to Steve Jobs for a percent of apple. tell him to slowly reverse engineer it over time, and then take my share certificate back to the present and retire at 22.
It's easy to be smug when judging this stuff by current technological standards. Remembering of course that in 25 years people will look back on the technology we currently use and laugh just as hard.
One of those guys was Gary Kildall... founder of Digital Research and creator of CPM... Laughing at that guy is llaughing at oen of the people that created your world.
I ran a small BBS in the mid 80's with maybe a few calls a day and by 1990 had 8 phone lines coming into the house with ST4096's shaking the computers day and night. It was a glorious time discovering hardware and software and making it all work.
I never heard of the show growing up in the 19080's in the UK. I would have enjoyed it immensely. The coverage of computers on British TV seemed to be limited to BBC Micros and the occasional Commodore, Spectrum or Atari. I heard about many big these developments via the printed press and was up to the minute (well month) from Byte and PCW magazines amongst others.
The guy from Morrow Designs really wasn't liking that HP machine, even though in my opinion, it was the clear winner. Unix, has data stored on memory chips (not an SSD, but pretty damn fast battery backed RAM), and lit up screen. I loved these shows for the competition between companies and hearing their sales pitches.
7:33 I choked on my coffee while watching this on my dual 24" 1920x1080 24bit color LCD displays, and glancing over at my teenage son's 55" color LCD TV. This was less than 30 years ago. Oh my....
@@kiningroseburg9288 Maybe not as drastic... We are approaching the limit of how small we can build transistors. The PHYSICAL limit, theorized at around 5nm. Unless we find a way to get around that, computers won't get faster
And we’re still asking the same questions. Is this useful, or a solution in search of a problem? But, for only a few hundred bucks, you can save the time of taking your phone out of your pocket to see who’s texting you. And it reminds you to breathe!
In 2015 dollars, those machines in the 10-12 minute segment would be between $6300 and $10,500. For 128k, a 300 baud modem, and a "double capacity" 3.5" floppy drive. Sweet.
Stewart: "With a portable computer, I can check my appointments, work on my script, ship it via modem, even agonize over the show's budget." Stewart was the best, to the day the show ended I know he would always remember the little budget they had.
16:40 "The whole development of LCD displays in Japan as far as I am concerned is aimed towards Plat panel televisions." This man was quite well informed of the state of the art in tech development. That means Japanese tech companies started aiming for FP tvs in the late 1970's. Which are now commonplace, 40+ years later, even transitioning to fourth generation Flat panel displays(Microled, Oled). First three being Plasma, TFT-LCD, IPS-LCD. There is of course the failed SED (Surface conduction Electron-emitter Display) from the Canon/Toshiba cooperation (started in 1986). Unfortunately it suffered from lawsuits making further development practivally impossible. It was definitively axed in 2010. But it would have been far superior to plasma, LCD, or any other plat panel technology at the time. Advanced prototypes demonstrated a true contrast ratio of at the very least 100.000 : 1 . A long exposure photo of a full black LCD, plasma, and SED revealed that SED had way way higher contrast than Plasma. LCD was washed out white. Plasma light grey, SED: Pitch black. You could hardly see there was a tv hanging there. They were all set for production when the litigations began. Production had to be delayed, delayed again, and ultimately they gave up.
"What if" analysis. Amazing. Our modern programming language's don't even have "What if" instructions anymore. Just regular old "if". The ancients really knew what they were doing.
George Morrow was quite correct when he said he felt the price for the high end enthusiast laptop should settle down to about 2k, while good quality workhorse laptops would be around 1k. That still holds pretty true.
I remember in 1985 saying how great it would be to have all my comics on a portable computer, and people said I was crazy, that much storage would be impossible.
In the early 90s, I had a 3.5” disk that I labeled “Back to the Future 1, 2, and 3” for when computers got good enough to store movies on a disk. I was kind of right, I guess. ;-) Except now it’s a whole catalog of films in full HD on a micro SD card. Haha. Little me would have been floored.
19:00 George Morrow was trying to pitch an 5" disk drive, that most portable manufacturers already did not include in their portables, it was being phased out just as 8" disks earlier. This strategy didn't work, as Morrow Designs filed for bankrupcy the same year, and George Morrow retired after that and, according to Wikipedia, spent time digitizing and restoring jazz records. Trials and mostly errors were what led to such progress in the industry.
The 5.25" disk drives were a smart move and actually worked making the model a good seller. What went wrong is that Morrow practically gave the design away to Zenith, who then won a very large government contract to sell their version of it. For the record, in 1985 the 5.25" disk drives weren't on their way out yet. The IBM PS/2, introduced in 1987, moved to the 3.5" format. That would've given Morrow's design plenty of life.
OMG! The size of that laptop at the beginning was huge! I laughed when the cab driver asked where to. The guy pulls out this monster of a laptop just to check..lol
"Screen this large" "640 by 256 pixels" How do you think they would feel if someone told them that a neckbeard was watching this video 30 years later on a 28" 3840 x 2160 monitor?
@@GB-rf4fu Well perhaps it may be a item only for the rich. Meanwhile, we are getting close, at least with the pixels...... (7.68K by 4.32K) th-cam.com/video/OKAU1Xx59ho/w-d-xo.html
I just bought a 16TB thumb drive for $20... Hard to believe that it's 700 million times the storage of those 3.25" floppy disks... at a tiny fraction (and size) of the price of a floppy drive. Makes you wonder what the future holds.
I don’t think Paul Schindler was wrong, just very ahead. It’s rare to carry a laptop around but very common to carry a computer the same size as a pocket sewing kit.
Morrow defending the 5 1/4" floppy with an absolute passion is hilarious. Had the foresight to say that flat panel screens with color were going to be the future, but still defended the floppy.
LCD's sucked so bad. LCD is the kind of tech that introduced far more problems than it solved. They look great now though, after many years of refinement. I'm still amazed at how far the TN panel LCD has come, that tech was invented right along with the LCD itself back in the late 60's.
In 85 I worked at Computerland and they let me take home a Data General 1. Not even backlit. I went to Steak n shake and had people coming over to see it.
Ironically Paul's prediction was exactly backwards, while being somewhat correct. Briefcase style portable died the way of the dinosaur, we certainly didn't see more past 1985 but portability was improved because of that.
LoL, I'm old enough now to remember when these shows first aired. I used to wait anxiously every week to get my new tech fix, smh.
Snap! I recall seeing systems like this on programmes like Tomorrow's World.
9:20 "In this little floppy [disk], you have 720kb of storage, so inside the unit you have the ability to have 1.5mb of storage, which is really enough for most applications."
...and all for just $4000
9:26 720 kB
How many disks will I need to store 85GB's worth of GTA V data?
EDIT: I've just worked it out and it requires 113333 720KB disks
@Historical Icons yes in 50 years this will all be like a bag phone.
@@HuntersMoon78, and 1 TB SD card can do about 12 times the data you have.
"You guys have any intention to add color to these screens?"
Texas Instruments: "fuck no"
This is better than porn
Stewart Cheifet >>>>>>>>>> Sasha Grey
Gustavo Maricate surely Sasha Fierce?
Gary Kildall porn, I could watch some hours of that
😂 why is this true 😂
Gary saying I'm glad I'm only in the software business (where missing the boat doesn't accrue)....PRICELESS!
“... all of it was lost because Gavilan was a victim of bad timing.”
Gary: “Stories like that make me glad I’m in the software business.”
* winces *
Yeah if only he could have seen the future
@28:04 California DMV announced they are finally almost done catching up from the 1985 backlog and apologize for the 35 year process. One employee, Fred, mentions, "Yea, I was hired in 1985 to work on this project. Been doing it my whole career and now I'm retiring, glad I almost got it done."
Right at the start a smart watch before smart watches were even thought of
I feel quite amazed. I remember a time when the computer was a keyboard connected to a TV, a Walkman connected to the keyboard, cassettes with whatever program you wanted to run (in my case, video games) and graphic that had not that much to do with what you are seeing these days, when the concept of an e-mail was Steven Spielberg movies domain, or Star Trek. A time when that brick game, was an actual console, that was running only that game, on lcd screens that later I was going to stare at, at night when I couldn’t sleep, on cell phone, which with the passing of time turned from ginormous bricks to these plastic and metal bits, that I am holding in my hand, typing this comment while waiting the update of GT Sport to finish, so I can race online on a huge Hd Display... in some 20 years.
Yes, taximan, let me take out my luggage laptop which is the size of a conference room table and check my stock reports.
Wow, flat-panel televisions were mentioned on this show and it was only 1985.
Losttouchjs These people have technology that they wont allow public till 2045./
+Losttouchjs courtesy of the aliens
+Solo Gals LMFAO
+Losttouchjs Back to the future 2 is from 1989 and had a actual flat screen tv in it.
the idea of an lcd screen dates back to the 70's actually
This look back into the "early days" of computing is very interesting, especially the myopic view of what the average user needs. I felt sorry for George Morrow. He was talking up his portable computers, but his company went belly up later the same year.
Just now realized that i watched the segment on LCD's on a 23 inch 1920x1080 IPS LCD.
Watching it 7 years later on a Galaxy S20 tra that has a diagonal of 6.7 inches and a resolution of 3200x1440 xD
State of the art when I was in 8th grade at Traweek Junior High School (SoCal), good memories!
"you cannot make LCDs in color"
*in the meanwhile 25 years later*
And even then, AMOLED and it's derivatives are slowly pushing out LCD
It didn't take long after that. I remember using a colour LCD in the early '90s on a friend's laptop.... Sega's Game Gear had colour LCD, as did Atari's handheld, so it had to have been around by at least the late '80s.
@@isuzuhombre-lx7jr They are still only a small marginal improvement over high quality LCD screens. Screen quality is unlikely to improve that much in the next 35 years (as compared to the improvements since 35 years ago).
There really isn't much more to do with video other than changing it completely to a new novel type, like holographic screens or something. Screens already exceed 300ppi. The best screens look as good as print. Getting bigger isn't much of an issue, especially for handhelds. That limitation is being imposed by pockets, not technology. I don't see TVs getting that much bigger. 60" is already pushing the limits of the comfort of viewing a screen.
Meanwhile cannot be 25 years later
i find that george morrow tended to be really hit and miss with his predictions, but his predictions on LCD screens was really quite spot on.
Watching show starting with 1983 going from 84 to 85 its like night and day in what tech can do. Some 85 shows were on the 84 list I saw a real difference in capability.
Love this old tech stuff, just love it!!!
When are these "portables" coming out? I want one!
Still waiting?
i wish i could travel back in time and take a note 10+ and whip it out in the taxi and say bitch please.. look at this shit right here!
And the next stop for you would be locked at a secret government facility deep down in the middle of nowhere trying to explain how you own such super hi tech toys :)
I love computer/ technology and repair of everything great knowledge history.
Man I hope we get those LCD tvs soon
I'm watching this on my phone :-)
Am I the only person that finds these older laptops way more sexy than today's crap? Bring back the style from this Era, just leave the 10k price tag behind!😮😮😮
Despites the technology wasn't there yet at that time ,but people just wanted to have a portible pc for on the go to spread sheets but even in 1985,peoples were already complaiming abaut blurrish & b&w lcd screena,low lifespen.
Their dream for a color lcd screen became reality a few years later.
love the psychedelic intro
That Shrini dude was about ready to punch George in the face! I love George!
KNTV back in 1985 was affiliated with American Broadcasting Companies.
With shows, such as Who's the Boss?, Growing Pains, and Diff'rent Strokes.
Opening scene: what progress! Before, you carried around a puny piece of paper with an address written on it. Now (1985), you carry around a 5 lb. laptop computer to store the address of where you are going. Oh, brave new world!
Everything is a step forward in the right direction, though.
In the 35 yrs since this episode, we have come up with smartwatches more powerful than anything showcased here. Wonder what will happen in the next 35.
Well they will need to invent a new technology, maws law has almost come to a halt. They will need to move away from binary computers somehow. Maybe Quantium computers will become stable enough for everyday use ?
"More powerful" is an understatement. I bet an Arduino is more powerful than this stuff.
One day we're going to have something like this in are pocket and that is a day I'm looking forward to
I have a Model 100... .still a nice computer.
Did the computer come attached to the briefcase? :-)
What wizardry is this port-able you speak of sir ???
I see government IT projects failed as hard then as they do now.
LOL portable debate. Considering lot of regular people have them now days. From the basic to the high end gaming laptops.
That's hi-res picture :D so cool watching these
27:20 the whole Mac or PC debate was alive nearly 40 years ago.
Just think, none of these guys even knew what a terabyte was back then. It would have been foreign language for even them.
So now every idiot carries a supercomputer in their pocket that they use to browse TikTok and Twitter when they should be looking you in the face when talking. We really have come a long way.
"Love Boat!"
the first apple watch !
Around 24:00 Paul makes a prediction that turned out the complete opposite.
tablets here we come! do I see a first smartwatch?
EDIT: lol fail... I thought this was from 1995..misread the date and wasn't really paying attention to the show :P
He wore the original Gear smart watch..
80 x 25 char at 640 x 256px monochrome display???
Olympus OM-D EM5 EVF is around 0.5" with 1024 x 768px & 16 Millions colors.
circa 1993 : 20 years ago, computer will fill the whole room, it's portable now.
circa 2013 : 20 years ago, portables are about the same size as today, cause if we make it smaller, we'd have difficulties to use it; especially Input/Output.
Different computing capabilities though.
Portables did get smaller today because smartphones & tablets are computers, though the way we interact with them is different from traditional PC's.
Its been great to see Gary Kildall again who has never gotten as much recognition as he deserves.
Sadly, he had plenty of opportunities but blew them all up.
CP/M is well known and so is Gary. He's a better programmer than Bill Gates, but isn't as salesman nor as cutthroat as Gates. If Gary even got the IBM deal with the XT, he no doubt wouldn't have licensed it and it would have been killed off by OS/2.
@@dijoxx He didn't blow em up, he was taken away from the world too early and suspectely by assault.
I love how Paul Schindler always bets the wrong way on the future of computing!
Ya he does. Meanwhile Morrow is dead on.
@@HardCase1911 He was not that off, the "needle" he mentions is now the smartphone, as far I know, there are more active smartphones than laptops/portable computers.
that's funny i was just going to ask if Paul Schindler was ever right on anything.
@@SnipE_mS a blind squirrel.....heeh
He was completely wrong
7:35 "You cannot get LCD's in color" mfw I'm currently watching this on a color LCD monitor. I fucking love the Future.
Lol 😂
+Wattstone I love watching these for that reason. They talk about 128kb. wow. If they saw my 64GB thumb drive they'd have heart attacks, especially when they heard the price.
I had a pocket colour lcd tv in 1989. too expensive for anything bigger
"especially when they heard the price."
Oh yeah, while the technology has become more capable, it's come *WAY* down in price.
Case in point, The Raspberry Pi Zero, given away on the cover of a magazine... in 1985, you got demos of games on a tape on the cover of a magazine, the Raspberry Pi Zero is a full blown *computer* given away on the cover of a magazine with capabilities that 1985 could only dream of (it knocked even the Amiga into a cocked hat)
You can buy a decent monitor at goodwill for $4.99 XD
Ever wish you could travel back in time, whip out your phone, and be like "Lookitthisshit right here..."
All of man's combined knowledge accessible from a device that fits in the palm of your hand. Imagine showing Da Vinci that device.....
Fast forward to modern humans and what do we use it for? Gormless social media, cat videos, porn?
Sad clown world.
*
now imagine a future guy coming to our time and doing the same thing with a tech we've never seen yet. Mind blowing
@@whiptech i mean i guarantee the king of that time will use it to do the same. seeing how medieval works.
U wouldn’t have the service
I would sell my phone to Steve Jobs for a percent of apple. tell him to slowly reverse engineer it over time, and then take my share certificate back to the present and retire at 22.
It's easy to be smug when judging this stuff by current technological standards. Remembering of course that in 25 years people will look back on the technology we currently use and laugh just as hard.
LOL Heck, it's only been 4 years and we're *already* laughing at you! _HAHAHA_
@@cubematrixstudio7605 Heck,a lot has happened in the last week and laughing at you!
HA HA
All in good fun. Helps appreciate what we have.
oh I come from 30 years from now from another planet and I laugh of your current existence.
One of those guys was Gary Kildall... founder of Digital Research and creator of CPM... Laughing at that guy is llaughing at oen of the people that created your world.
RIP Gary! He was a gorgeous man!
The Forgotten Pioneer.
@@GeoNeilUK never forgotten :-)
Probably the best possible wingman for this kind of TV show at the time
Killed by the murderous Microsoft monopolists
@@EJ160E well according to bill gates he did try to give Garry the heads up, but a while later and he did the dirty by buying the clone os.
I ran a small BBS in the mid 80's with maybe a few calls a day and by 1990 had 8 phone lines coming into the house with ST4096's shaking the computers day and night. It was a glorious time discovering hardware and software and making it all work.
Did it exchanges a software? You guys were a first "pirates" ;)
George Morrow talking about flat panel TVs in 1985 and color LCDs is awesome.
I started my career in the 80's these guests look and sound exactly what you would expect from a computer salesman of the time.
Watching this on a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 and smiling as I remember those days.
And in 20 years people will go 🥱🥱 to your iPad Pro
I never heard of the show growing up in the 19080's in the UK. I would have enjoyed it immensely. The coverage of computers on British TV seemed to be limited to BBC Micros and the occasional Commodore, Spectrum or Atari. I heard about many big these developments via the printed press and was up to the minute (well month) from Byte and PCW magazines amongst others.
So did the SkyNet take over in the future?
It's great to hear we still like the vintage shows in the 191st century
@@meanmole3212with AI, it sure looks like it!
It was on PBS in the United States
The future of portable computers is not clear...
Oh, if only they'd known.
If only they could tell the future, they’d know the future?
Literally no one calls it portable. It's just "my phoneI or toplap"
The guy from Morrow Designs really wasn't liking that HP machine, even though in my opinion, it was the clear winner. Unix, has data stored on memory chips (not an SSD, but pretty damn fast battery backed RAM), and lit up screen.
I loved these shows for the competition between companies and hearing their sales pitches.
It's probably because he knew Morrow was about to go bankrupt.
He was rude interrupting the hp guy.
@@samirayis5830 agreed
When the 5.25" floppy drive is your big selling point, you are off to a bad start.
more shows should have dueling sales pitches
Love how the laptops grind and buzz their drives while the three guys are discussing them.
"It's a full screen, 25 lines by 80 columns..."
These sales guys don't stand a chance with Gary, I love it
They almost had me sold on those laptops until I heard the price.
You can't get LCDs in colour -_-
7:33 I choked on my coffee while watching this on my dual 24" 1920x1080 24bit color LCD displays, and glancing over at my teenage son's 55" color LCD TV. This was less than 30 years ago. Oh my....
Dexxter
Imagine what the next 30 years holds in store
Koning Rosekraans You made me think. Really hard.
@@kiningroseburg9288 Maybe not as drastic... We are approaching the limit of how small we can build transistors. The PHYSICAL limit, theorized at around 5nm. Unless we find a way to get around that, computers won't get faster
Yet a couple minutes later Gary talks about "the Japanese" already making color LCD displays for TV's.
they didn't mention if it will run crysis.
You didn't mension if your asshole will run Crysis
That 128k memory looks sweet, hope it's upgradable to 256k?
1:28 and then the smartwatch was born.
And we’re still asking the same questions. Is this useful, or a solution in search of a problem? But, for only a few hundred bucks, you can save the time of taking your phone out of your pocket to see who’s texting you. And it reminds you to breathe!
In 2015 dollars, those machines in the 10-12 minute segment would be between $6300 and $10,500. For 128k, a 300 baud modem, and a "double capacity" 3.5" floppy drive. Sweet.
That's why their target market were business men who could afford such things. These computers were not being bought by your average person.
Stewart: "With a portable computer, I can check my appointments, work on my script, ship it via modem, even agonize over the show's budget."
Stewart was the best, to the day the show ended I know he would always remember the little budget they had.
These days, someone in his position would have been using a 4G-celluar tablet to beam in script edits and fiscal matters.
16:40 "The whole development of LCD displays in Japan as far as I am concerned is aimed towards Plat panel televisions." This man was quite well informed of the state of the art in tech development.
That means Japanese tech companies started aiming for FP tvs in the late 1970's. Which are now commonplace, 40+ years later, even transitioning to fourth generation Flat panel displays(Microled, Oled). First three being Plasma, TFT-LCD, IPS-LCD. There is of course the failed SED (Surface conduction Electron-emitter Display) from the Canon/Toshiba cooperation (started in 1986). Unfortunately it suffered from lawsuits making further development practivally impossible. It was definitively axed in 2010. But it would have been far superior to plasma, LCD, or any other plat panel technology at the time. Advanced prototypes demonstrated a true contrast ratio of at the very least 100.000 : 1 . A long exposure photo of a full black LCD, plasma, and SED revealed that SED had way way higher contrast than Plasma. LCD was washed out white. Plasma light grey, SED: Pitch black. You could hardly see there was a tv hanging there. They were all set for production when the litigations began. Production had to be delayed, delayed again, and ultimately they gave up.
so sad
"What if" analysis. Amazing. Our modern programming language's don't even have "What if" instructions anymore. Just regular old "if". The ancients really knew what they were doing.
George Morrow was quite correct when he said he felt the price for the high end enthusiast laptop should settle down to about 2k, while good quality workhorse laptops would be around 1k. That still holds pretty true.
I imagine that what's on the inside, though changed well over time, per a loose paraphrase of Gordon Moore's law of transistor density.
you didnt factor in inflation. add 159% and you see things got way cheaper..
I wanna go back in time and sell my 2008 Sony Vaio to these guys for 30 grand.
Umm, if you had a time machine, you could sell that to the gov't for 20 billion. 😂😂😂
A two color monitor??? Impossible! My mind is blown! I love old tech.
Black and white. Two colors!
I remember in 1985 saying how great it would be to have all my comics on a portable computer, and people said I was crazy, that much storage would be impossible.
In the early 90s, I had a 3.5” disk that I labeled “Back to the Future 1, 2, and 3” for when computers got good enough to store movies on a disk. I was kind of right, I guess. ;-) Except now it’s a whole catalog of films in full HD on a micro SD card. Haha. Little me would have been floored.
19:00 George Morrow was trying to pitch an 5" disk drive, that most portable manufacturers already did not include in their portables, it was being phased out just as 8" disks earlier. This strategy didn't work, as Morrow Designs filed for bankrupcy the same year, and George Morrow retired after that and, according to Wikipedia, spent time digitizing and restoring jazz records. Trials and mostly errors were what led to such progress in the industry.
The 5.25" disk drives were a smart move and actually worked making the model a good seller. What went wrong is that Morrow practically gave the design away to Zenith, who then won a very large government contract to sell their version of it.
For the record, in 1985 the 5.25" disk drives weren't on their way out yet. The IBM PS/2, introduced in 1987, moved to the 3.5" format. That would've given Morrow's design plenty of life.
"1.2mb of storage , enough for most apps", damn you ps3 120gb and you still want more =p
haha...u comment became old...so i will make fun of it.... some games nowadays are more than 120gb
120gb? Ahahah
120gb was old 7 years ago
Thank you gentlemen for paving out "the future" we're living in nowadays. We have all the modern technology just because of you all.
So obviously recorded on Umatic tape. "Ringing" on any vertical lines was a common flaw with the format.
It's amazing how less clunky laptops have gotten, color, speed, smaller and see some old faces from computing history.
OMG! The size of that laptop at the beginning was huge! I laughed when the cab driver asked where to. The guy pulls out this monster of a laptop just to check..lol
"And it only weighs 10 pounds!"
"Screen this large"
"640 by 256 pixels"
How do you think they would feel if someone told them that a neckbeard was watching this video 30 years later on a 28" 3840 x 2160 monitor?
Estel Blackheart and in the year 2019: a 400'' 10k X 6k monitor.
Well considering 30 years ago, we all thought we'd be driving flying cars by now, I bet they'd be pretty disappointed.
@@heedmywarning2792 welcome to almost 2020, no such monitor
@@GB-rf4fu Well perhaps it may be a item only for the rich. Meanwhile, we are getting close, at least with the pixels...... (7.68K by 4.32K) th-cam.com/video/OKAU1Xx59ho/w-d-xo.html
@@GB-rf4fu Holy sh1t, I found it. 15.3K by 8.6K. 400Ft by 33Ft. Science City Kolkata. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_video_screens
love this episode. Huge milestones.
I just bought a 16TB thumb drive for $20... Hard to believe that it's 700 million times the storage of those 3.25" floppy disks... at a tiny fraction (and size) of the price of a floppy drive. Makes you wonder what the future holds.
there's no way that 16TB drive actually holds 16TB -- you got scammed, buddy
I don’t think Paul Schindler was wrong, just very ahead. It’s rare to carry a laptop around but very common to carry a computer the same size as a pocket sewing kit.
16:45 - Japan was already moving away from CRT as early as 85 by this mans account which means even longer than he knew.
The Morrow guy was right, no one works in airports and airplanes using those luggables.
I love watching these historical technology videos. This lets me know I made it to the future.....Sort of.
Most of mainstream crowd only knows Bill Gates but those that care enough to know...
Gary Kildall was the real deal.
The hosts are always rushing with the show like every minutes of air time costs them 100k :)
Never missed this cutting edge tech show back in the day!
what channel was it on??
Morrow defending the 5 1/4" floppy with an absolute passion is hilarious. Had the foresight to say that flat panel screens with color were going to be the future, but still defended the floppy.
Don't copy that floppy!
@@Nightweaver1 The Software Publishers Association would be a *little* disappointed with me.
LCD's sucked so bad. LCD is the kind of tech that introduced far more problems than it solved. They look great now though, after many years of refinement. I'm still amazed at how far the TN panel LCD has come, that tech was invented right along with the LCD itself back in the late 60's.
ungratefulmetalpansy IPS...
In 85 I worked at Computerland and they let me take home a Data General 1. Not even backlit. I went to Steak n shake and had people coming over to see it.
I had people come over to show them an Oculus Rift
Ironically Paul's prediction was exactly backwards, while being somewhat correct. Briefcase style portable died the way of the dinosaur, we certainly didn't see more past 1985 but portability was improved because of that.
boy THAT prediction did not age well!
Can't we just install a mainframe in a truck to get a portable computer?
16:46 dude mentions "flat panel tvs" in 1985 😳
1.44mb floppy. now thats a name ive not heard in a long time...a long time..
TAXI MAN: where are you going? ME:: Hold on let me check my PORTABLE COMPUTER!!!!~! *three hours later* Me: Somewhere in pheonix