Could you do a video about how a Master’s in Counseling before a PhD/PsyD in Clinical Psych might improve/not improve one’s chances of getting into a doctoral program?
It can be a harder leap, you’re competing with Masters level clinicians with research experience. It is possible but you would have to have an impressive undergrad track. You will also have to do more hours if you skip the masters.
This was helpful. Thank you. I will be working with Women's Empowerment and Human Trafficking: my goal is to be a Restoration Coach. It is challenging because I don't know where this type of counseling fits. And, I want to be prepared. I will continue to research, as I am moving toward this. I am in the state of California.
I did masters in counselling and have an undergrad in psychology, and is currently a licensed counsellor, but planning to apply to a neuropsychology program, what recommendations could you give to someone like me to improve my chances of getting accepted into a neuropsychology program? (become a research assistant etc.?)
Research and clinical experience is gold. Especially if you can obtain work in a neuropsychology practice as a psychometrician or behavioral analyst. Hope that helps!
Hi! I really liked your video because it helped answer some questions but I just have one more question. I have an undergrad in social sciences (major in psychology), and if I pursue a master's in counseling psychology, will I have to do a PhD or PsyD like I would have to with clinical psychology?
Depending where you live (if in the u.s.) you could become a masters level therapist LPC OR LPCC depending on which state you live in. If wanting to become a psychologist a doctorate in counseling psychology phd/psyd would be sufficient
If I want to become a clinical psychologist (I want a close relationship w/ patients & to be able to do assessments & diagnose especially in autism & neurodivergence).. would it make more sense to get an MS in Psychology or an MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling (maybe with emphasis on MFT) if my ultimate goal is to get PsyD or PhD?
Either option can serve two different purposes. The first could be more tailored to research and the second more so towards clinical practice. Depending on your end goal it might depend which you favor more - research or clinical practice and what you see yourself doing after your degree. Hope that helps!
im going do my MS in psychology and get some research experience afterwards for some time before applying for my PhD/PsyD. also should add that i for the most part have the same goals as you but i may also do more training so that i can do some physiological neurology alongside my clinical practice which is why i’m doing my MS so that i can get a head start certain things
Hello, I have a masters in Business and I want to completely change my career. I want to go for another masters in clinical psychology and eventually a PhD and neuropsychology. However, I was told by an university that if I go for a masters in clinical psychology I can’t be a therapist because the state requires the course to be CACREP, so if I want to go into therapy I have to do a masters in mental health counseling. My problem with that is, if I do a masters in mental health counseling, wouldn’t that get me a little off track for a PhD in neuropsychology?? Thank you!
Great question!! Honestly there are so many ways to get to the same goal. Many people in my cohort were licensed therapists before pursuing the psyd/phd and becoming a neuropsychologist. It really depends on what you prefer. If you want to work some time before going into a phd/psyd as a therapist or getting a masters in psychology to get clinical/research experience its really up to you, how fast you want to start your doctorate and where you see your self in the future. Feel free to reach out at pkssarpong@gmail.com for more of a specific consult
Im doing my masters in Counseling Psychology, course load looks extremely similar to the course load sample you showed of clinical psychology. Do you think it might be beneficial for me to get an elective in advanced psychopathology?
Good question! Depends on your goal! Depending on future internships/post doc it could look good on the CV. If you have any more questions reach out on my website at philsarpong.com for office hours. Best of luck!
Hi! Thanks so much for this incredible analysis. I am coming from an Applied Behavior Analytic background and I’m trying to decide which path to follow. I’d like to continue working with the IDD population. I’d like to gain as much knowledge as possible; the more I know, the better I serve and maximize the benefits of my clients. How did you decide which path to take?
I shadowed a lot of clinicians, and did a lot of research between counseling/vs clinical. For me it came down to fit, what I wanted to do in my career, the courses given, and the type of clinician I wanted to be. After shadowing professionals I liked, I pretty much decided to go down the same path they went down because I enjoyed seeing what they did, so shadowing and "interviewing" a lot of different type of clinicians helped a lot.
Hey :) thanks for that video! Do you know what would be the best path for a masters degree if you want to become a psychotherapist? I hear different things about clinical mental health counseling, marriage and family Therapie and clinical social worker. What are the main differences and what would be the best path? Maybe you know more about that and could help me with that!
Hey great questions! I posted this video not along that might help and clarify th-cam.com/video/qdB2FKhA1Do/w-d-xo.html :) At the end of the day all those fileds do the same thing but they specialize in certain areas, for example clinical mental health counseling specialize in one-on-one therapy, marriage and family therapy has a speciality in working with couples and families, and social workers often can work in a more broad range of settings that involve for example like working in the hospital since they are trained and specialized in understanding how systems affects client's mental health so at the end of the day it just depends on what you would prefer to learn more about and specialize in but all three of those fields can see the same patients, clients, and work in the same settings even though the programs are slightly different. Hope that answers your question.
Good question! It really depends on the program, PhD programs tend to have more stats classes, but it also just depends on the program. I hated math but with a bit of help from cohort members, and a good Teaching Assistant I got by. If you've taken stats courses in college it's similar to that
Hey, I am interested in forensic psychology. I have my BS in Criminal Justice and would love to work in the jails , prisons, detention centers, the courts , and maybe even schools. Would you go with a masters in forensic mental health counseling or straight to PHD forensic psychology?
Great question!! It depends on what you want to do with your degree. PhD in forensics psychology would take more time and tends to include more debt from student loans, but the options are vast in what you can do (consulting, teaching, research, and TESTING etc.) however if you just want to niche yourself as a forensic therapist then a 2 year masters is a great way to specialize and work in forensic settings. The PhD is helpful for consulting/research purposes and potentially higher pay but the masters is great if you're just looking to focus on therapy. One thing to note about getting a PhD is that the education involves assessment, evaluation, testing, and psychodiagnostic testing involving personality behaviors, neuropsychological dysfunction, or behavioral issues and primarily phd/psyd programs tend to educate students more on the testiing/assessment than mental health counseling schools. At the end of the day, if you pinpoint what you know you want to do for a career you can work backwards and choose the degree/education that will get you there. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to send me a message on my website. philsarpong.com/personal-training-fitness-specialty-client-faqs/
I’m graduating with a Masters in Counseling and obtaining my LPC however I have been thinking about going into counseling psychology. Am I able to work full time as an LPC while going through a doctoral counseling psychology program?
I'v heard of students working part-time, but it might be difficult to work full time and be a full time student. Typically the doctoral programs are like a full-time job in its own. Hope that helps.
How many years of study and preparation are required to become either a counselor or a psychologist? Are there any specific requirements I should be aware of if I choose to pursue a career as a counselor?
What type of counselor? There are many types of counselors (addiction, substance use, career, peer support, etc.) that only need either a GED from high school, an associaes, or a bachelors. However to be a licensed therapist requires a masters degree. A psychologist requires a doctorate. Hope that helps!
Great question, it really depends on what type of setting you would like to work in. Medical, hospital, academic medical setting? These tend to have more clinical psychologists versus mental health community centers or private practices. Are you interested in assessment and evaluations of children? This also tends to be more clinical psychology setting that teach the fundamental aspects of psychological assessment. If you have further questions or are interested in consultations feel free to connect at philsarpong.com ! Hope this is helpful
Also a good question, both counseling/clinical treat similar conditions and have the same licensures so it may be more about the program than it is about choosing clinical/counseling. If you find the right doctoral program that offers therapy and maybe opportunities to engage in a type of psychedelic research/therapy/practice or a faculty member at a school that is interested in the same topic that might be helpful to look into that program. You could also look through each programs coursework to see if they offer more in-depth discussions/curriculum/seminars etc. on psychedelic-assisted therapy to help with your decision. Best of luck!
Thank you for this great explanation ! I just have a quick question please, does MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling means Both Clinical & Counseling psychology ? I would like to become a clinical psychologist, so do you recommend this program to me ? I will appreciate your help.
Not quite, a MA in clinical mental health is probably a masters that helps students sit for a masters licensure as a therapist whether LPC, LPCC, or LCC depending on the state. In other words its a masters to become a licensed professional counselor/therapist. While the clinical/counseling psychology masters typically is geared for future clinical and counseling psychologists in the Phd/PsyD level. This depends on the program so I would ask the schools specifically what their degree is for. If wanting to become a clinical psychologists you could look into APA accredited clinical psychology programs PhD or PsyD and if they are accredited there is a good chance they will have what you are looking for.
This is a tough question, it depends more so on the program itself. Typically PhD have more statistic classes, but PsyD programs can have just as much math as PhD. The best bet is to ask current students about the program and how difficult the stats courses are. Usually each program has several resources, tutoring, and mentorship to help students too. I hope that helps.
Pretty good explanation, thanks! I'm from a non-psych background, could you do one on people bridging from a non-psych undergrad going either the counselling or clinical route? And could you do a visual flow chart or tree diagram that showcases different branches for each of counselling or clinical routes, ex. what leads to various specialties like neuroscience, health psych, addictions, ptsd, etc?
I'm not sure about the letters needed for becoming a psychotherapist in Florida. LPC, LPCC, LCPC, LCC, or LMHC are a few names that it could go by in terms of becoming a licensed psychotherapist but typically any psychological, biological, or social sciences degree could meet program school requirements. If unsure you could reach out to the program you're looking to apply to and ask them directly about majors or college degrees that would be helpful. Then you just want to make sure the school program prepares you for whatever state licensure requirements are needed to become a licensed clinician in Florida. They should also have that info on the school's website. Best of luck!
Each program typically has some requirements before students apply like finishing their bachelors, taking a test, having a minimum GPA, letter of recommendation, and personal statement before applying. There are some international schools outside the U.S. who might require a masters. But typically in the U.S. many students get accepted to phd/psy.d programs after their bachelor's degree so you might be eligible based on where you live and how many requirements you've fulfilled on the application. If unsure each school should have those requirements on their website. Hope that's helpful!
@@philsguidetopsyd thanks for the response. My M.A psychology would probably be in Dallas or California. So I want to become a clinical Psychologist but I did find a M.A clinical psychology course instead I found counseling psychology. So would that be possible to do psyc.d or mphil in clinical psychology
Great question! Yes it depends on your goals. I think certain programs might also be able to give specific guideline in how they can help students. I would email the program administrator just to make sure
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Could you do a video about how a Master’s in Counseling before a PhD/PsyD in Clinical Psych might improve/not improve one’s chances of getting into a doctoral program?
It can be a harder leap, you’re competing with Masters level clinicians with research experience. It is possible but you would have to have an impressive undergrad track. You will also have to do more hours if you skip the masters.
@@FREETHEGOD22It’s a harder leap if you DON’T do a masters first or DO a masters first?
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you had some good points. Psyd for me fits my scope. Everyone has their own opinion on what they prefer.
Great video! Just thought you might like to know, our psych professor found it valuable enough to put it in our course content :) I agree!
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Bro, you speak with clarity. I'm now watching all the videos in your channel from the beginning. Thank you for this 🖤
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Love that you graduated from IU too! Thank you so much for this video, it's been such a big help!
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BTW, you delivered the message with great clarity, thanks for that!!
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All about the etymologies and word origins! Well done. nice informative video. 🙏
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Thank you for this video, Phil. Very helpful!
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This was helpful. Thank you. I will be working with Women's Empowerment and Human Trafficking: my goal is to be a Restoration Coach. It is challenging because I don't know where this type of counseling fits. And, I want to be prepared. I will continue to research, as I am moving toward this. I am in the state of California.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much! Well done.
Glad it was helpful!
I did masters in counselling and have an undergrad in psychology, and is currently a licensed counsellor, but planning to apply to a neuropsychology program, what recommendations could you give to someone like me to improve my chances of getting accepted into a neuropsychology program? (become a research assistant etc.?)
Research and clinical experience is gold. Especially if you can obtain work in a neuropsychology practice as a psychometrician or behavioral analyst. Hope that helps!
This was so incredibly helpful! Thank you!
You're so welcome!
Hi! I really liked your video because it helped answer some questions but I just have one more question. I have an undergrad in social sciences (major in psychology), and if I pursue a master's in counseling psychology, will I have to do a PhD or PsyD like I would have to with clinical psychology?
Depending where you live (if in the u.s.) you could become a masters level therapist LPC OR LPCC depending on which state you live in. If wanting to become a psychologist a doctorate in counseling psychology phd/psyd would be sufficient
@@philsguidetopsyd okay thank you so much for your guidance!!!
If I want to become a clinical psychologist (I want a close relationship w/ patients & to be able to do assessments & diagnose especially in autism & neurodivergence).. would it make more sense to get an MS in Psychology or an MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling (maybe with emphasis on MFT) if my ultimate goal is to get PsyD or PhD?
Either option can serve two different purposes. The first could be more tailored to research and the second more so towards clinical practice. Depending on your end goal it might depend which you favor more - research or clinical practice and what you see yourself doing after your degree. Hope that helps!
im going do my MS in psychology and get some research experience afterwards for some time before applying for my PhD/PsyD. also should add that i for the most part have the same goals as you but i may also do more training so that i can do some physiological neurology alongside my clinical practice which is why i’m doing my MS so that i can get a head start certain things
Thank you for the breakdown 😊
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Hello, I have a masters in Business and I want to completely change my career. I want to go for another masters in clinical psychology and eventually a PhD and neuropsychology. However, I was told by an university that if I go for a masters in clinical psychology I can’t be a therapist because the state requires the course to be CACREP, so if I want to go into therapy I have to do a masters in mental health counseling. My problem with that is, if I do a masters in mental health counseling, wouldn’t that get me a little off track for a PhD in neuropsychology?? Thank you!
Great question!! Honestly there are so many ways to get to the same goal. Many people in my cohort were licensed therapists before pursuing the psyd/phd and becoming a neuropsychologist. It really depends on what you prefer. If you want to work some time before going into a phd/psyd as a therapist or getting a masters in psychology to get clinical/research experience its really up to you, how fast you want to start your doctorate and where you see your self in the future. Feel free to reach out at pkssarpong@gmail.com for more of a specific consult
Im doing my masters in Counseling Psychology, course load looks extremely similar to the course load sample you showed of clinical psychology. Do you think it might be beneficial for me to get an elective in advanced psychopathology?
Good question! Depends on your goal! Depending on future internships/post doc it could look good on the CV. If you have any more questions reach out on my website at philsarpong.com for office hours. Best of luck!
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This is so helpful! Thank you
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Hi! Thanks so much for this incredible analysis. I am coming from an Applied Behavior Analytic background and I’m trying to decide which path to follow. I’d like to continue working with the IDD population. I’d like to gain as much knowledge as possible; the more I know, the better I serve and maximize the benefits of my clients. How did you decide which path to take?
I shadowed a lot of clinicians, and did a lot of research between counseling/vs clinical. For me it came down to fit, what I wanted to do in my career, the courses given, and the type of clinician I wanted to be. After shadowing professionals I liked, I pretty much decided to go down the same path they went down because I enjoyed seeing what they did, so shadowing and "interviewing" a lot of different type of clinicians helped a lot.
Hey :) thanks for that video! Do you know what would be the best path for a masters degree if you want to become a psychotherapist? I hear different things about clinical mental health counseling, marriage and family Therapie and clinical social worker. What are the main differences and what would be the best path? Maybe you know more about that and could help me with that!
Hey great questions! I posted this video not along that might help and clarify th-cam.com/video/qdB2FKhA1Do/w-d-xo.html :) At the end of the day all those fileds do the same thing but they specialize in certain areas, for example clinical mental health counseling specialize in one-on-one therapy, marriage and family therapy has a speciality in working with couples and families, and social workers often can work in a more broad range of settings that involve for example like working in the hospital since they are trained and specialized in understanding how systems affects client's mental health so at the end of the day it just depends on what you would prefer to learn more about and specialize in but all three of those fields can see the same patients, clients, and work in the same settings even though the programs are slightly different. Hope that answers your question.
Hi, how is the math in clinical psychology? Not crazy about math, I don't want that to hender me. Are their a lot of math involved?
Good question! It really depends on the program, PhD programs tend to have more stats classes, but it also just depends on the program. I hated math but with a bit of help from cohort members, and a good Teaching Assistant I got by. If you've taken stats courses in college it's similar to that
Thank you! This was indeed helpful!
You're welcome!
Hey, I am interested in forensic psychology. I have my BS in Criminal Justice and would love to work in the jails , prisons, detention centers, the courts , and maybe even schools. Would you go with a masters in forensic mental health counseling or straight to PHD forensic psychology?
Great question!! It depends on what you want to do with your degree. PhD in forensics psychology would take more time and tends to include more debt from student loans, but the options are vast in what you can do (consulting, teaching, research, and TESTING etc.) however if you just want to niche yourself as a forensic therapist then a 2 year masters is a great way to specialize and work in forensic settings. The PhD is helpful for consulting/research purposes and potentially higher pay but the masters is great if you're just looking to focus on therapy. One thing to note about getting a PhD is that the education involves assessment, evaluation, testing, and psychodiagnostic testing involving personality behaviors, neuropsychological dysfunction, or behavioral issues and primarily phd/psyd programs tend to educate students more on the testiing/assessment than mental health counseling schools. At the end of the day, if you pinpoint what you know you want to do for a career you can work backwards and choose the degree/education that will get you there. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to send me a message on my website. philsarpong.com/personal-training-fitness-specialty-client-faqs/
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I’m graduating with a Masters in Counseling and obtaining my LPC however I have been thinking about going into counseling psychology. Am I able to work full time as an LPC while going through a doctoral counseling psychology program?
I'v heard of students working part-time, but it might be difficult to work full time and be a full time student. Typically the doctoral programs are like a full-time job in its own. Hope that helps.
very helpful, thank you!
You're welcome!
How many years of study and preparation are required to become either a counselor or a psychologist? Are there any specific requirements I should be aware of if I choose to pursue a career as a counselor?
What type of counselor? There are many types of counselors (addiction, substance use, career, peer support, etc.) that only need either a GED from high school, an associaes, or a bachelors. However to be a licensed therapist requires a masters degree. A psychologist requires a doctorate. Hope that helps!
Hi, I want to work primarily with children. Would a clinical or counseling masters be better for this?
Great question, it really depends on what type of setting you would like to work in. Medical, hospital, academic medical setting? These tend to have more clinical psychologists versus mental health community centers or private practices. Are you interested in assessment and evaluations of children? This also tends to be more clinical psychology setting that teach the fundamental aspects of psychological assessment. If you have further questions or are interested in consultations feel free to connect at philsarpong.com ! Hope this is helpful
For someone who wants to specialize in psychedelic-assisted therapy, which degree would you recommend pursuing?
Also a good question, both counseling/clinical treat similar conditions and have the same licensures so it may be more about the program than it is about choosing clinical/counseling. If you find the right doctoral program that offers therapy and maybe opportunities to engage in a type of psychedelic research/therapy/practice or a faculty member at a school that is interested in the same topic that might be helpful to look into that program. You could also look through each programs coursework to see if they offer more in-depth discussions/curriculum/seminars etc. on psychedelic-assisted therapy to help with your decision. Best of luck!
Thank you for this great explanation ! I just have a quick question please, does MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling means Both Clinical & Counseling psychology ? I would like to become a clinical psychologist, so do you recommend this program to me ? I will appreciate your help.
Not quite, a MA in clinical mental health is probably a masters that helps students sit for a masters licensure as a therapist whether LPC, LPCC, or LCC depending on the state. In other words its a masters to become a licensed professional counselor/therapist. While the clinical/counseling psychology masters typically is geared for future clinical and counseling psychologists in the Phd/PsyD level. This depends on the program so I would ask the schools specifically what their degree is for. If wanting to become a clinical psychologists you could look into APA accredited clinical psychology programs PhD or PsyD and if they are accredited there is a good chance they will have what you are looking for.
Hi, do you know if both clinical and counseling psychologist can assess and diagnose?
Yes they can! Any mental health disorder that's in the DSM can be used by licensed psychologists
Is there any maths & statistics typically involved in a psyd/PhD which would you reccomend for someone who hates maths
This is a tough question, it depends more so on the program itself. Typically PhD have more statistic classes, but PsyD programs can have just as much math as PhD. The best bet is to ask current students about the program and how difficult the stats courses are. Usually each program has several resources, tutoring, and mentorship to help students too. I hope that helps.
Pretty good explanation, thanks!
I'm from a non-psych background, could you do one on people bridging from a non-psych undergrad going either the counselling or clinical route?
And could you do a visual flow chart or tree diagram that showcases different branches for each of counselling or clinical routes, ex. what leads to various specialties like neuroscience, health psych, addictions, ptsd, etc?
Great topics thanks for sharing!
Do you know what degrees would be best for becoming a psychotherapist in the state of Florida??
I'm not sure about the letters needed for becoming a psychotherapist in Florida. LPC, LPCC, LCPC, LCC, or LMHC are a few names that it could go by in terms of becoming a licensed psychotherapist but typically any psychological, biological, or social sciences degree could meet program school requirements. If unsure you could reach out to the program you're looking to apply to and ask them directly about majors or college degrees that would be helpful. Then you just want to make sure the school program prepares you for whatever state licensure requirements are needed to become a licensed clinician in Florida. They should also have that info on the school's website. Best of luck!
I have a BSc in counseling, I was thinking of doing my masters in clinical psychology and work as a psychologist. Is that possible
In some countries yes but in the u.s. you need a doctorate to practice
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Can i do clinical Psychology or neuro psychology after finishing my m.a in counseling psychology?
Each program typically has some requirements before students apply like finishing their bachelors, taking a test, having a minimum GPA, letter of recommendation, and personal statement before applying. There are some international schools outside the U.S. who might require a masters. But typically in the U.S. many students get accepted to phd/psy.d programs after their bachelor's degree so you might be eligible based on where you live and how many requirements you've fulfilled on the application. If unsure each school should have those requirements on their website. Hope that's helpful!
@@philsguidetopsyd thanks for the response. My M.A psychology would probably be in Dallas or California. So I want to become a clinical Psychologist but I did find a M.A clinical psychology course instead I found counseling psychology. So would that be possible to do psyc.d or mphil in clinical psychology
Great question! Yes it depends on your goals. I think certain programs might also be able to give specific guideline in how they can help students. I would email the program administrator just to make sure
Is PhD obligatory for counseling psychology
In the U.S. it is necessary to get a PhD for counseling psychology