I had bowel cancer at 34… did I blame God, No, not at all… I did pray and ask for healing and more time, but I never blamed God. In fact, I said, I understand my situation and if it is in your will that I die, let it be, because ultimately God is good and whatever he chooses for me will without a doubt be good and positive….🫶 Today, 7 years later, I am still here by the grace and mercy of Jehovah God, through his son Jesus Christ I have my testimony that God is good and he cannot do anything evil… God is good despite the evil in the world…. Remember there is no evil in heaven, it’s in the world👌
Amen my balkan brother,God is so good! I failed God so so many times but He remained being so faithful and kind to me. He loves like nobody else,in fact He is Love. See you soon brother,God bless.
You have to be kidding me. He tells us His will. His will is that none would perish but all would repent and be saved. Stop praying “let whomever die” because that’s not Biblical unless you can show me where we are supposed to wish for peaceful death in the same prayer we ask for healing in. Never pray for me to have a peaceful death! Only to return to high function and live long and healthy and productive. It’s wrong and it’s invasive and no church seems to exist where everyone even the pastor gets it. We must model Christ when we pray. Did he tell Lazarus come out here to me unless it’s the Father’s will that you be dead”? Or did he command Lazarus to come out? Full stop! Christ said if we have the faith of a mustard seed we can command the mountains to move and it will be. You ask for what you want and no back ups. Exercise faith by rejecting the doubt that He has the power and Will to free you from Death.
@@gb123-ej8wh Unfortunately, you don't seem to be at ease with natural death. All that Mr. Kovasevic seemed to be saying is that he is at peace with his own mortality knowing he will ultimately be safe in Christ. I've also been in that situation. Couldn't know if I was gonna live or die but before I passed out I was grateful for the time I've had as a believer, and if it was gonna be time, so be it. Someone in Christ should be at peace with his/her death.
@gb123-ej8wh I hear what you are biblically saying, but consider this biblical verse. Isaiah 57 The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart; devout men are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death. All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen. Nevertheless not my will but Thine Will be done.. Isaiah 57 2 He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness. Acts 1:7 "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority"..
@@sauliruottu5871 Here's the scripture to substantiate the Will of God and death. Isaiah 57 The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart; devout men are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death. All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen. Nevertheless not my will but Thine Will be done. Acts 1:7 "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority".
The hebrew "ra" is what is actually said in i make peace and create evil. evil is actually translated to ra which has multiple meanings one is as you noted evil the other is to make worse or cause pain. Obviously this passage refers to the second meaning the Lord makes things worse for those who aren't righteous i.e sodom and gomorroah, Cannanites, the hebrews who doubted and abandoned him during the torah, etc. I make peace and create evil? Obviously if it was a correct translation it would use the antonym and say "I create good and create evil" which plenty of translations actually say "i make peace and create calamity" which is more accurate given the context of the whole chapter. Verse 8 goes on to write about the Lords righteousness, it would make zero sense for it to be talking about creating evil then talk about righteousness. But what does make sense is discussing how he gives prosperity to the good and calamity to those that are evil. So yeah i would say there is no mystery here isaiah 45:7 is simply saying the Lord is righteous. Why the KJV has such a off representation given the surrounding text is beyond me but that's why you yourself should read the entire passage rather than just googling things to help your preconceived bias. Hope that helps.
@winniecash1654 yeah the kjv chooses odd commitments to translations. I think the niv is the best. It's difficult because in most languages Hebrew included lots of words can have multiple meanings. But given the context of the passage we can be pretty confident of what the original phrasing was.
@@bquick7228 the false god "RA' "RAH" "RE" we live in RE-Ality, "RA" in hebrew means "bad, corrupted, evil, polluted" we dotn live in Ality, we live in RE-Ality.....
We are imperfect from birth, like a chunk of ore that's rich in gold and silver. Suffering is the process that crushes and heats us to the melting point where the precious metals flow and separate from the dross; the dirt which is discarded. If we knew the glory and joy to come, we would welcome any degree of agony as a price worth paying.
Yes and no. Why animals suffers? We have no idea. I believe in God, but the fact is that we really have no idea why suffering is part of our life. In some instances, we can say: I did wrongs so this is why I suffer. True. But there some instances where this explanation doesn't apply. Why a new born dies in fire? We don't know. We also don't know why animals suffers. Saying a new born dies in pain because of devil, seems also questionable. It's better to recognize: we don't why suffering is present, at least in some instance. God does know why (if there is an explanation, because... remember: sometime only answer is more dangerous than the question itself). Regarding God's judgment: we shouldn't want that our enemy to be judged! We should want that our enemy to be forgiven, not judged. If we want our enemy to be judged, then we are not really Christians!!! Any justice without forgive and forget and love, it is an injustice!
@@radupopescu9977 I get what your saying. We really don't know why certain things are the way they are. And we'll never know those answers until we get to heaven. My understanding, however, is that animals and babies suffer as a consequence of man's sin. Because we chose to disobey God in the garden of eden, that mistake affected ALL life. That's why Jesus is such a big deal. He's the one who paid the price for our sins, so that there'd be hope after this life. I like what you said about the ANSWER to suffering being more of a blow than the actual question. That's something to think about! God bless, bud! That was a mind-provoking read!
Sure, human preference. How insightful. What's really so bad about that? Evil and good are just labels and you can learn to be fine with it. It makes us feel icky to not have some super duper tie-breaking dictator lay it out for us.
@@niddy-2.0 What's so bad about "human preference"? Do you really have to stretch your memory that far to figure that one out? Maybe you've heard of someone called Adolf Hitler. He had a huge preference for Aryans and genuinely thought it would be _better_ (preferentially) for the human race if they were solely dominant. But yeah, learn to be fine with it. Great solution.
@@joshua2707 Your emotional reasoning is a tautology. "Bad is what is bad for humans" So when I ask, "Why is it bad that it is up to human preference?" I'm not asking, "Do humans think it's right for it to be preference?" I'm asking, "Is morality existing AS human preference a right or wrong belief?" If your answer is, "humans don't think so" Cool. Of course I'm never going to label moustache-man-z as "good" I just recognize that if morality isn't an immaterial thing, then it is down to human and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So we're down to moral pragmatism, etc.
I was just texting a friend about this exact topic. Literally within minutes of "send", this video released. The God that is TRUE + LOVE is always in control. 💜✝️💜
Remember, there are no coincidences when the True and Living God is involved.. God wanted you to hear this. I'm very glad that I clicked on this video. It is so very well done with such reasonable questions and answers, May the True and Living God of the Jewish people and of all Born-Again Christians bless these three men always and continue to cause them to have great teachings like this until Jesus comes back for His church. Amen and amen
@@O_troposthey still have a FREEWILL.... Because LOVE is only love if it is FREELY received. It is not love if it is FORCED. God gave them a choice. Adam & Eve freely denied God's love when they stopped TRUSTING Him and rebelled against Him by taking the fruit. Do YOU have a freewill? Or are you forced to receive love you don't want, AND also forced to trust what you are told without freely evaluating if it is true or false first?
@JoinUsInVR show me in the bible where you have ever read the words free and will together? You are comparing human love with God, that's not a smart thing to do. It's like me saying lions take out all of the men and cubs to have control. You as human should do the same when you meet a new woman with kids. That would absolutely make no sense. Human love requires for us to be able to choose and not force. But I got news for you, first of all we are not Gods lovers we are His creation. Which means God is in full control. Secondly acts17:28 disprove your free will and so does phil2:13 or romans9:11-21. No we dont have free will and neither did adam&eve. They had no knowledge also of what they were doing. They did not understand what evil or good was before they ate of that tree.
It's answers like this that keep the Problem of Suffering arguments afloat. Atheism does not entail despair and we are not borrowing values and morality from Christianity. It's very straightforward to observe suffering in the world, know that we do not want it, recognize that "free will" does not solve it.
🙌🙌🙌 I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison , where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 monthly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!
It has been Mildred Evelyn Rooney. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus.
I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!
I started pretty low, though, $5000 thereabouts. The return came massive. Joey is in school doing well, telling me of new friends he's meeting in school. Thank you Evelyn Vera you're a miracle.
You said " this life" , which indicates you believe that theres life after death . If so which life do you think is more important? The life we have now or the one after?
Proverbs 16:4 The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom. The one verse that tells all stories that have ever been told and answers all questions that have ever been asked.
I wouldn’t say “evil is the result of free will without Gods intervention”. There is evil in this world because this world is cursed as a result of sin. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that “Satan is the god of this world”. It also says that there are 2 realms. This physical realm, and the spirit realm. Sin creates a veil and basically blinds us to the spirit realm - even though the spirit realm is more alive and active than this physical realm. The Bible talks about how right now there is spiritual warfare happening in the spirit realm. It also says that God is Holy. Holy means set apart, and pure, and sinless. As believers in Jesus, when we die we will be reunited with our creator. And heaven is a place of no suffering and no sin. It is completely set apart. When we get to heaven we will see God face to face and have desires that are pure and holy, and be operating out a place of pure love. No more jealousy, or anger, or unforgiveness, or bitterness, or selfishness or any of those destructive sinful behaviors. Ultimately God wants us to know him and have a relationship with him now so we can start behaving more pure and holy, and bring heaven to earth. God wants to dwell in our hearts, and transform our mind, so that we can be the hands, feet, and voice of Jesus.
Sort of. You make the choice during this life, you lay down your life, you choose to exist only in holiness. I think we will have lots of choices, but evil things won't be an available choice.
As I grew up into some weird agnostic, Buddha's realization that 'all life is suffering' hit home when I thought about it. Intellectually there was a spiritual wisdom there...but as an agnostic I also imagined I found spiritual wisdom in T Lobsang Rampa and Carlos Castaneda. I think what ultimately pushed me back into Christianity is the lack of a loving God in Buddhism, and perhaps every other faith. Unlike the primates of many so-called Christian churches, I do not consider God and Allah to be synonymous. I think Baal or Lucifer is the high society god of the West's elites. We seem to live in a composite of heaven and hell.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS are OPPPOSED and AGAINST the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions are clearly the HATERS and OPPOSERS of the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST on earth because they are unitedly and obviously - 1. opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. also opposed, against, and will never ever accept the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their willful opposition and rejection of what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward to LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18. Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions will never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths while the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
John 9 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. 2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? 3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. 4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
That is what the bible says. John the Baptist and Jesus both preached repentance. A turning away from sin. And then following Christ and keeping His commands. A true Christian cannot continually sin. The Holy Spirit will convict them of it. Go read the end of rev chapter 20.
Let me share the gospel with u and hopefully it will clear some things up. For all the details, read the book of John in the New Testament. It’s all about Jesus and the gospel. ---- No matter how wonderful or “good” a person is, we ALL are sinners (especially in our minds and hearts). We ALL are petty, or lustful, or greedy, or power hungry, or hedonistic, or disrespectful, or jealous, or envious, or selfish, or dishonest, or hold grudges, or are overly prideful, etc. Those sins leave a filthy disgusting mark on our souls that is NOT erased by our good deeds. Good deeds don’t cancel out bad ones, so there is no way for us to clean ourselves off. And every time we sin, we break God’s rules and rub even more putrid sewage on our souls. Compared to the pure sinless, holy glory of almighty God, how do we look? Disgusting, sinful, corrupt, dishonorable, disgraceful, UNWORTHY. NONE OF US deserve to even be in his presence much less to live with him in the unspoiled magnificent beauty of Heaven. Since God is a just, righteous judge, our sins have consequences. And when we die, that means we won’t be allowed to enter Heaven. Sin cannot enter Heaven, and we are all covered in it. So, we will end up being eternally separated from God. But God knew that when he gave us free will, we would sin… and yet he loves us anyway (even though we are sinners) and wants ALL of us to go to Heaven. So what was the solution? God the Father came up with a plan and Jesus (God the Son) agreed to it. Jesus basically volunteered to temporarily leave his heavenly throne and powers behind and become just a man. Why? 1. So that he could show all of humanity how to live a perfect, sinless life. 2. Also, thru him, we could personally get to know God the Father. 3. But the MAIN reason was to SAVE us from having to endure the punishment we rightly deserve; to do that, he needed to be punished in our place. He was betrayed, arrested, beaten, slapped, humiliated, spat on, whipped, nailed to a cross, and suffered a slow, horrible, agonizing death (while people mocked him) to pay the price for our sins. That’s why he sacrificed himself… to SAVE ALL of us. He was our scapegoat, our whipping boy. He was willing to endure all that because he loves EACH ONE OF US that much. And when he died, all our sins (past, present & future) were forgiven. He essentially bought our “ticket to Heaven” with his blood. 3 days after his death, he rose from the dead in a glorified body and showed he really was the Son of God and that if we trust in him, we too will have eternal life with him. He holds that ticket out to EACH ONE OF US saying “I love u. I died to save u. Please accept my gift to u. All u have to do is trust me and follow me. Will u do that?” This is a heart issue. He wants us to open our heart to him and see the love he has for us. God wants this from us: - To have a close personal relationship with him. To talk to him all day about everything: our frustrations, our fears, our successes, our failures, our pain, etc.. He is our loving father, after all. - To be humble before him. - To realize that we are sinners and no matter how many good things we do, without Jesus, our sin will keep us out of Heaven. - To be thankful for Jesus sacrificing himself on the cross to pay the price for our sins. - To feel sorry for our sins. - To make a commitment to try to be more Christlike and stay away from sin…. Because it is the right thing to do and because it is pleasing to God. - To realize that he loves us deeply and that we have immense value to him. - To accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior. This was God’s plan: to make it so easy for EVERYONE to get to Heaven and live with him. All he asks is for us to be humble and rely on HIM instead of being overly prideful and relying on OUR own RIGHTEOUSNESS to “earn” our way into Heaven. He wants our humility and trust. If we do that… Boom… We are saved! The ticket to Heaven is ours! Pretty cool. We can ALL get to Heaven NOT because of what WE DO but because of what JESUS DID….it is thru his LOVE and sacrifice that we are saved… his amazing grace & forgiveness. It makes no difference what terrible things we might have done. When we accept Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are saved! That is the good news of the gospel of salvation thru Christ. That’s it. It’s so simple. Does God want us to stop sinning? Of course. Besides being the right thing to do, we know it will please him… and we should WANT to please him; after all, we owe him so much. And we should also WANT to be good representatives of Christ… but he knows we are not perfect. Only Jesus was able to live the perfect sinless life. But, God wants us to keep trying anyway. He really likes it when we keep making a sincere effort & turn away from sin. When we screw up, we need to be sorry and try harder next time…. That is the commitment God wants from us. Be humble and open your mind and heart and will to God. Tell him that u want to serve him and want him to be part of your daily life. Ask him to fill u with the Holy Spirit. Let him fill u with the truth of his love & grace for u. The gratitude, joy & peace u will receive is life changing.
@@IthinkImOk-k7g ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and ETERNAL DEATHS Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly and obviously - 1. opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. also opposed, against, and will never ever accept that Jesus Christ is the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their opposition and rejection of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward to LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Romans 8:1 ‘There is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus’ If you truly repent and turn from your sin, God promises forgiveness and eternal life in His Son. What an amazing God we have!
We live in this body that has sin nature and as long as we're in this body,we will sin and be evil however when we trust in Jesus that He made full payment for our sins with His blood and is risen from the dead,we are forgiven of all sins and the part that people left out is we're born again,Jesus makes us new,He gives us Holy Spirit and seals us in Him,we cannot lose our salvation just like we can't gain it. Jesus does work in you,if you let Him,and you will stop lying and cussing or being drunk or whatever your thing is,He will help you overcome that sin,if you cooperate with Him because He respects your free will option but an born again believer wouldn't rape or murder or do such horrible things,i believe so at least,i am not quite sure honestly what Bible says,not completely. One day at His return,He will give us a new glorified body likened to His. We will not hunger or thirst or have all these bodily needs and functions like going to bathroom,we will be able to fly,to speak into each other's minds and read thoughts,stuff like that. Heaven is whole another world,the difference is something like to what were we able to do in our mother's womb and what after being born when we're in this world and it's way bigger in Heaven. God bless.
God sent us here to learn and grow. He gave us two gifts. Agency, the first gift, allows us to chose. Only through choice can we truly learn and grow. He did this knowing our choices would separate us from him. But, and this is what the commentators missed, there is no agency without opposition. Without the presence of evil it is not possible for us to choose good. And then God gave us bodies because they enable our agency. Christ is the second gift. He enables us to repent of our choices to do evil that we may return again to live with God. Suffering is (one of) God's mechanisms to turn souls towards him. All suffering is designed to bring souls closer to God. Illness, cancer, death, etc... returns souls to God at death. Suffering that doesn't kill us is meant to turn our hearts towards God as it does throughout holy scripture. Job, Christ, the Israelites, etc... turned towards God in their moments of anguish, slavery, misfortune, etc. Protestants struggle with this because the death of children and their returning to God is extra biblical and breaks sola scriptura. I found it funny that Cliff mentioned judgement when Protestants writ large beleive that judgment has no power. As long as you have accepted Christ you are unavoidably heaven bound. They may as well call judgement a stern scolding that does nothing before you are accepted into heaven.
I like 2 Corinthians 4:17...The suffering here and now is lightweight and for a moment (in the scope of eternity), when put on the scale with the eternal and infinitely massive weight of glory He'll reveal in us...there's just no comparison. On the other side of eternity, He'll wipe away every tear from our eyes. But just like Jesus weeping for Lazarus whom he was about to raise-He weeps with us on this side of eternity even though he knows all will be made right. He carries all our diseases. . . There's nothing we can possibly go through here and now that He doesn't feel compassion for, and no suffering or scars that He can't melt away with eternal joy, peace and comfort.
I can totally appreciate any atheist using this question as a reason to question God. The problem is that they stop there. They need to further into getting their valid question answered. Christians aren’t exempt from these feelings and questions too, yet we go back to the correct answer. We no longer struggle with this question. Our minds are at peace with God. Well, our very souls are at peace with our God. It’s a no brainer, yet they will still fight this.
In the beginning, at creation when God created everything it was proclaimed good. The best it could be. Perfect. All animals .perfect.Man and woman created sinless. Perfect. They were given a command. Obey my voice. By God. And the satan came along ,tempted eve. And she sinned and then Adam sinned. They brought sin and the fallen state into the world. But even then they could still have lived a righteous life. And Cain could have been a good person. Just like all of us. We could all live and be perfect but we don't. That is not out nature now.We need Christ to save us and guide by the Holy Spirit. Freewill has consequences.
Checkmate. Atheism is true. Obviously. There is always one obvious flaw in the theists arguments here. They ignore god is supposedly omnipotent which means he could fix these issues at his will…but he doesn’t. This whole free will paradox is a clever disguise for the perfectly reasonable conclusions that god doesn’t care, doesn’t exist, or is a really bad creator who’s inept.
Great video! My view on why evil exists: Evil must exist in order for us to know and understand "good". Like how darkness (shadows) must exist for us to understand that light exists and appreciate its goodness. Also, we must experience and know evil in this life in order for us to understand and experience the perfect goodness of Heaven when we get there. If we lived in a world without evil then our experience in Heaven would be futile and the promise of Heaven would seem more like reincarnation.
With that belief there are only 2 options. A: God caused evil or B: Evil is equal to good which means God isn't all powerful. Basically what you are describing is yin and yang, not christianity
@DM-dk7js If God doesn't exist then evil cannot be His result. If God doesn't care about you then how come you got,for example,all the organs you need to function properly or that you have your own DNA,you are unique? How do you think evolution is our origin? How do you think evil and good exists without God? What is justice without God? It's all our own opinion and standard,there is no objective standard for good or evil. I don't know what happened to you in your life to get you to believe He's not real and is evil and doesn't care and etc but i hope and pray God will wake you up to the evidence that He does care about you and is omnipotent and loves you and etc and that you would believe in Him and trust Him and have eternal life,amen. I know Him and i know He's not at all what you described,He is beyond goodness we can understand. I failed Him countless amount of times yet He was so faithful and kind and loving and was always there with me and for me and if you let Him,He will do the same for you. God bless.
Practicing the sinful discrimination of judging 'good' and 'evil' is exercising the vain and prideful practice of the original sin of stealing the 'fruit' from the forbidden 'Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil'!
Very interesting thought! But only in the sense of labeling certain actions of God as evil. We now have the knowledge of good and evil and to not discern between the two in our own lives is disastrous.
Without suffering, we cannot truly experience joy. Suffering even brings out the inate love God has given us. When we see others suffer, we want to help. The reason suffering exists is because of free will. Which leads to suffering, which leads to us truly understanding love, joy and hope. There's a reason "and it came to pass" is so widely used in the bible. P.S. i appreciate the work you do!
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
What is the purpose of the suffering of animals. Do they have souls and go to heaven too? If a baby suffers from a disease or starvation, and dies, what did the baby learn? Did it experience true joy at any point if all it knew was pain and suffering until death? And what does the baby’s free will have to do with its suffering? The baby is powerless. And where does the baby’s soul go without having repented of the sin it was apparently born with or without accepting Jesus?
@@Quanthefather ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS will NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER because Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who believe their own LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths. ATHEISM, just like ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS will also NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER because Atheists who believe their own LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist will just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths. BELIEVERS of JESUS CHRIST's AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS will LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER because LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the AUTHORITY of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the TEACHINGS of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@Quanthefather my baby is a couple months old. Yes, she experiences joy. Her smile melts my heart to pieces. When you see the baby mountain goat frolicking on the trails with it's parents, while hiking in the mountains, that is them experiencing joy.
Hard question to answer and even harder to accept. But I will give it a shot and give you a story. Let's say we have three families, each with one child. 1. First, have a son with cancer. They pray the son is healed. God gets all the glory. This is the one that everybody wants. 2. Second, the Son has cancer. They pray. The son still dies. The family curses God. They leave the church. 3. The third family .the son has cancer. The child dies. The man and women are heartbroken but they praise God for His grace and time they had. But from this they do many things that would have never been possible if this tragic thing had never occurred. God gets the glory. But this is the hardest to accept. This is what justifies God actions. The child ultimately is with God in heaven and the parents will see Him and forget about the sadness they had in this life. We have ,have to look beyond this life.
@@gradyjohnson78534.Fourth case, there is no God, child dies of canser becose life is cruel and some are unlucky . This is the hardest to accept, but makes the most sense.
@@gradyjohnson7853you ignored one obvious possibility. That god doesn’t exist doesn’t care or sucks at creating. Yup. It’s one of those. How sad you thought any of that was logical.
@haepy2953 maybe , but i will share what happened with me. In 1996. My wife gave birth to our youngest child. A boy. He was still born. Black and blue dead. Medically dead. I saw it. We were destroyed. then the doctor screamed for a nurse. Blood hit floor. The doctor kicked me out. And my wife died. I ended up in a waiting room alone, more or less in shock. Numb. I cried out to God I did not understand or really know for help. My wife was dead for several minutes. She saw her body. Then she met God. His face glowed with so much power she could not look at it. And she saw His hands and arms. There were holes in His wrists and her spirit knew who He was. Beyond words. He showed her future things and so far they have came true. Time works different there. Then,after a while He sent her back. Eventually, they came and got me. I asked what had happened. We cried. Then the doctor asked if we wanted to see our son, and we said no. We would do that later. And then they brought out our son, and he was alive. You see it was impossible for him to be alive. He had two knots in his umbilical cord. Medically impossible but yet here he was. God raised two people from the dead. He is 28 years old. His actual time of alive was several minutes after he was born. There are medical records somewhere.
@DM-dk7js my wife died during childbirth. She met that God you don't believe in. And also my son was stillborn. At that time I was close to being an atheist or agnostic myself. But it got real and I had no option but to cry out for help. My wife had a nde. And my son was a dead piece of meat. I saw him.black .blue dead.b I was mentally a basket case. she met God. And He gave her a glimpse of her future then sent her back. She didn't want to come back. And He also gave life to my son. Even today invisible medically impossible for my son to be alive considered the way he came into this world. Two knots tied in his umbilical cord. At least should have been brain dead. Only way I can explain it. But today he is a mechanical engineer and has an iq of around 167. Way smarter than me. There were many witnesses to what happened. I can't explain it. It just is. And Jesus is the Living Savior.
I believe, it's not really about the evil things people do to each other. This could be explained with a free will. But more like, why do somentimes the weakest and most innocent of us have to die or suffer immensely. Free will does not apply here.
Glory!!! After so much struggles l now own a new house with an influx of $155,000.00 every month God has kept to his words,my family is happy again everything is finally falling into place.God bless America 🇺🇲
It is simply the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
While the concept of 'biblical justice' is easy to pin down, the word 'fair' is not. The latter is too subjective (cf. John 9). While I may have a very small and limited insight into the nature of evil and justice compared to the inscrutable and unlimited insight God has, I am, in the vast majority of cases, totally ignorant of why your (i.e. the other person) personal experience of evil (and suffering) has the shape and form it does for you. Btw, I found the solution to evil, namely 'judgement', very helpful. Thank you.
In order for there to be true freewill for us. We have to be able to choose between what is ultimately good and bad. And consequences go with those choices and unfortunately can affect many others. And also have events that move through out time. Great good can come out of it and also extraordinary evil. It is not a true choice if consequences are not allowed. God will save every soul that wants to be saved.for those that seek Him out. And has a provision for those that have unwillingly lost their lives due to the wickedness of others or other unfortunate circumstances. He has grace for people that repent..
But how can man, limited by a sin nature, ever choose what is good? It is only through the grace and power of God that free will truly becomes “free” in the sense of being able to choose salvation (John 15:16). It is the Holy Spirit who works in and through a person’s will to regenerate that person (John 1:12-13) and give him/her a new nature “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” (Ephesians 4:24). Salvation is God’s work. At the same time, our motives, desires, and actions are voluntary, and we are rightly held responsible for them.
@johntrevett2944 i look at it this way. If we are saved we have a choice. By the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome sin by denying it. And if we fall to be reconciled by repentance. But an unsaved person has to obey the fallen nature. Different mindset and nature.
@@gradyjohnson7853 Scripture clearly states that none of us seek God and we love darkness/sin. I agree that the Holy Spirit enables us to live righteously.
@victorobanda769: “The world is evil because God is just and merciful” No, your fictional god likes evil. He boasts that he created evil in the Bible. Therefore, it is obvious that he loves evil. He was even in charge of a band of evil spirits that he commanded to go and harm people.
@victorobanda769: “The world is evil because God is just and merciful” The mythical ancient god of the Bible likes to let people suffer because he is evil. Read the Bible it is overflowing with his malicious deeds of murder, killing, hardship, hunger and suffering. Look at the story about poor old Job. He went through hell because of a wager he made with the devil that served on your god’s heavenly council.
@@willievanstraaten1960What exactly is your point? If atheism and materialism are true, then everything is permissible because as Richard Dawkins says in his book the God delusion, matter neither knows nor cares, there is no evil and no good, DNA just is and we dance to its music. So what standard do you appeal to other than just your emotions that we can verify your opinion is valid?
@@hamerful @hamerful: “You can't understand the Bible with pure humanistic eyes. Even the story of Job is not meant to teach what you wrote... Well, I am only giving what I am getting from the book your fictional god who is alleged by Christians to have dictated the saga. God wrote that Satan attended his heavenly council with other angels. God explains that he and the Devil had a wager about Job’s loyalty. Maybe you should read the Bible for yourself and not depend on deceitful, dishonest, trash-talking and fact-twisting Apologists.
God's existence defines good and everything He is *not* is evil, or that which exists contrary to Him, all that rebellion. It's all for His glory and Him sharing that glory, which magnifies it further...and we won't understand the grand scale of it until we "know as we are known" one day. I'm glad these guys don't focus on the postmodernist proof-style debates, but rather leaving God separate (holy). I think it's so hard debating in those ways...people seem to try so often and it's probably why we are failing and seeing all the 1st world countries fall away, and why focusing more on the fact that people will never actually understand God fully here is an important part of the discussion...and much easier in 3rd world countries because they actually suffer regularly. One small point I pseudo-disagree with...I don't think it's a limit of His power to allow free will because, from an entirely God-sided perspective, it's impossible to create free will in a logical sense (which unfortunately makes this argument even harder hahah). He is the Beginning and the End, "Before Abraham was, I AM," He exists at the start and the end and everything in between simultaneously, He is not bound to space or time, and thus before He even creates one of us, He knows every decision we will make; He could have created us differently, prevented all disease, made Lucifer not rebel, but chose what He chose for His glory. We appear to have free will from every observation and metric we can ever see in this life, but to say that we could ever make a decision God didn't know about before He created anything just shows a lack of imagination and understanding of the absolute degree of God's power (or just hubris!). If you think I'm over-imagining the power of God, I would encourage you to simply think about what He created...the nature of reality is still a complete mystery...souls are immeasurable, gravity is all but agreed upon to not exist in favor of relativity but that has loopholes so it's still probably wrong, the sheer scale of everything from the tiniest quark to the magnitude of the observed universe...our own bodies are simultaneously powerhouses and fragile little twigs...like...come on, to think a single person would ever grasp the vastness of God in our lifetimes is crazy XD He didn't limit his power, we simply don't understand...yet. What I'm really curious to find out is if God literally created logical concepts or if they simply exist one way because He is the other...like hatred, did He literally create it or does it simply exist because He is love? Perhaps control is one of those negative concepts that exist because He is freedom?
If we don't seek God then we will suffer. We have to seek God. We have to find and know him. This world is not of God. It's wicked because the devil own this world and it nor of God. So we must seek God for protection from this world.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
You mentioned that the atheist view is that the logical conclusion of evil, death and suffering is despair and that there’s no solution to the problem of suffering. I’ve found that my atheist friends accept this. Their take is just “Yeah despair and suffering. It just is. There’s no solution. Accept it.” It’s hard to argue with that
Despair, why? Because you need counseling or therapy? I can never take theists seriously when it's turned into an existential crisis. There's no dictate to feel despair because something is temporary. All that tells me is that the person makes that correlation and it makes them sad. People don't think that far into it and it doesn't have to be that way.
Its easy to say that until they have to enter into it, people are far to comfortable! As Christians we are called to bear other peoples crosses and our own, if your world view is theres no solution to despair and suffering just accept it , that just sounds lazy and foolish.
@@theparadigmshift74 I suffer a lot of the time, don't believe, and accepting it is possible and not foolish. You lack imagination. You'd be surprised what people are capable of enduring.
@@niddy-2.0 trust me i know, i suffered alot too especially with DPDR and anxiety for 13 years until i was saved and born again and delivered from it the day i called out to God, im not sure why someone would rather just deal with it alone and be hopeless. The issue was my sin caused my own illness, and until it was forgiven i was just a prisoner to myself.
@@theparadigmshift74 Glad you're better. Non-theists have each other too. So the "alone" thing is not true for everyone. The hopeless thing also because we don't teach people to get help, professional help or make it accessible. What if what you were struggling with wasn't labeled sin? Do you think your anxiety of it would be as high?
I told god, no more the cross god because god will handle instead. he will carry because he caused. I used to tell god, I rather be crucified than seeing animals suffering. The sufferings were beyond imaginable.
It's a simple answer, really. God created men and gave them free will. Free will led to the fall, and the fall created suffering. Why does God allow suufering? In order to eliminate suffering, he would have to eliminate free will. It's all on us, not God and it goes all the way back to the Garden Of Eden and Eve's sin followed by Adam's disobedience.
But if everything were about a dynamic in which we finally "have to choose" the good to "return to God" why? As an all-powerful God, he is not going to come up with another design of reality in which we do not necessarily have to live in a very twisted way, this dynamic of reality, only to realize that "we have to return to him." It is a very twisted design of reality dynamics. It is as if I as a video game developer were to code with a game with that same dynamic... wouldn't you think that the developers are somewhat twisted and intrinsically evil enough to design a game like that? Imagine if I give reasoning and "free will" to those characters in the game, and make them aware of all this dynamic of reality... it is VERY TWISTED.
Understanding that a belief in God caused people to pick up rocks and help others stone their closest relatives, will certainly explain that God was created. Consider the many different ways these might have happened. Did they target the head for a quick, humane death? Did they decide which one aimed for the legs, arms, heads, in sequence? Did they stop for a bit to see if more was necessary? These events show two things; it’s absolutely horrible what belief does to the human mind. Second, if the mark of the beast does come, it can only benefit, therefore, fulfilled through believers. Impatient and distraught one’s. The same mindset that flew those planes into those buildings.
Ppl want a 6 pack without following a strict diet. They want heaven without having a strict diet of Christ. The question in itseof is seeking the promise of God without honoring God
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom I am not sure how. Maybe ask for any questions and answer 1 or 2 at the end ? Or if you get a lot do a show on them? Or pitch the idea and see if it will work.
I just can't agree with Cliff when he says God chooses to limit His power in order to preserve our "free will". That seems to be saying human free will is God's highest priority, or at the very least, He prioritizes human free will above ending pain and suffering. I certainly don't reach that conclusion from the pages of Scripture. Does he? How would one defend his position biblically?
The Bible's answer to this is that God owns all things and doesn't owe people anything. It's very specific about how the ends does not justify the means, so God doesn't say, "It's for a better reason." God simply tells Job, "Everything belongs to Me." Creation cannot merit the favor of God; it does not and cannot earn God's goodness. He is loving, because anything good He gives is grace. If He doesn't do good to someone: "Does not the potter have the right over the clay?" It's mankind that demands good from God and claims that He isn't loving if He doesn't give them what they want. But He doesn't exist for us and we do not have rights to His favor. Rather, we owe Him our lives. He has said, "Tell the righteous it will go well with them, for they shall reap the fruit of their ways." So, if you want to escape a world you didn't create, that you are having issues with, the solution is to obey God. "But men have loved darkness because their deeds were evil." Furthermore, the Bible is very clear that the only way to heaven is through Christ and that all men are judged through Christ. This idea that babies are innocent and that children don't need to know Jesus is also not Biblical; "Anyone whose name was not written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
3 ressons why I believe there is evil in this world. 1. Man has free will and the heart of man is evil. 2. There is a devil! Most people forget this but the devil moves around like a roaring lion seeking whom to devour. His aim is to steal, kill and destroy! 3. We live in a fallen world. Related to no 2 but v distinct. In eden, we arent told of sickness or diseases. In heaven there is no pain. Hopefully this helps strengthen someones faith!❤
If the heart of man is evil, what happens to that heart in heaven? Is it suddenly magically “good”? Why would that be? Is free will circumvented in heaven? Do people become zombies? Why doesn’t God stop the devil? Imprison him somewhere, or make him the king of some other planet somewhere devoid of life? Aren’t humans God’s children that he supposedly loves? Why leave them at the mercy of the devil? Is the devil as powerful as God? If we live in a fallen world because of Adam and Eve’s sin, why isn’t heaven a “fallen world” after Lucifer and his angels sinned by rebelling against God? If sin can still happen even in heaven and in the presence of God, what’s to stop further sinning from happening when humans get there? Free will still exists in heaven doesn’t it? It must because Lucifer apparently rebelled by his own free choice.
For me, the only persuasive answer to this question is that it's conceivable that God reasons for allowing the immense suffering we see in the world (animal and human) that we simply cannot comprehend in our present, limited state. And if we trust Him in other areas, we can trust Him here, too - trust that there is a good reason, although we don't understand it (similar to how my dog trusts me even when I'm doing something that hurts him, because he knows I love him and it's not malicious). However, if you're an atheist, you don't have that second piece (already trusting Him in other ways), so the first piece (the idea that he may have good reasons we just don't understand) will seem rather abstract and empty. ... The free will defense comes up short for me. First problem is that it only applies to human malevolence. It doesn't account for hundreds of millions of years of animal suffering prior to human beings even showing up on the scene. Second, our wills are not entirely free but are constrained by human nature and all its emotions, distortions, needs, and impulses. God created that nature and the world that shaped it via evolution, so to say evil is due entirely to our own free will choices is sort of a setup job - God gets off the hook and we're left holding the bag. ... If I were an atheist, I wouldn't find quoting scriptures or talking about Jesus's suffering persuasive. That may be a comfort to people who already believe, but to a non-believer, it's not going to matter. ... It's a difficult issue. It's what originally drove me away from faith at age 13. I've since come back, but it's something I still wrestle with (especially "natural evil" and animal suffering, which often gets ignored in these discussions). There aren't any easy answers. Maybe that is part of the "test" of being down here.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS are OPPPOSED and AGAINST the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST Atheists who are claiming that GOD doesn't exist are obviously opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and rejection of what's written in John 17: 3 and Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who believe the Unbiblical teachings of their Pastors and Leaders about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are obviously opposed, against, and will never ever accept the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their willful opposition and rejection of what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward to LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18. Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions will just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths while the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
History tells us that... Every Great Nation’s Days Are Numbered. Sir John Bagot Glubb wrote this in the 1950’s. He was an Army General and historian. He studied eleven empires starting with the Assyrians in 859 B.C. and ending with the British in 1950. Sir John determined that each empire followed a remarkably similar pattern from birth to demise. Spanning a period of about 250 years, each went through the following 7 stages before their collapse: 1..The Age of Pioneers. 2. The Age of Conquests. 3. The Age of Commerce. 4. The Age of Affluence. 5. The Age of Intellect. 6. The Age of Decadence. 7. The Age of Decline & Collapse. He also added these traits to the decline. Defensiveness, pessimism, materialism, frivolity, an influx of foreigners, the Welfare State, and a weakening of religion. To what did he attribute this decadence? Too long a period of wealth and power, selfishness, love of money, and the loss of a sense of duty. Again, please remember, this was written in the 1950’s. USA…248 years of great power...Hummmmmm.......Looks like we are next…Jesus is returning very soon… Several years back in the late 1940’s, Paul-Henry Spaak the first President of the United Nations General Assembly said “We do not want another committee, we have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all people, and to lift us out of the economic morass (confusion) into which we are sinking. Send us such a man and be he God or devil, we will receive him.”-Paul Henri Spaak, the first president of the UN General Assembly, first president of the European Parliament, and onetime secretary general of NATO. God predicted this in His precious Bible almost two thousand years ago. Please read Revelation, chapter 13, especially verses 16 through 18. May the True and Living God of the Bible bless you. Amen and amen
Whatever the reason, we know that it is not because He doesn't love us (Tim Keller). If God were to deal with evil and suffering in the way we think He ought, then humanity would have to be wiped out. Sin and evil are the issues, suffering is an outworking of them. So to deal with all the suffering, the sin and evil would have to be dealt with, and there is none righteous, no not one. We rage at God for not taking away evil and suffering, whilst ignoring the fact that we are full of sin and evil. God allowing things to continue as ugly as they are is the most incredible act of mercy and self control, upholding free will, by which great evil can occur, but also the only mechanism through which true love and relationship come. God doesnt want robots, He wants relationship with His children, and to make that possible free will must remain. For God to deal with sin, that means all sin, not just the stuff our relativistic self dictates, whilst we pointing judgement at others whilst dismissing and justifying our own wickedness. Plus, sin isnt just about what we do that is wrong, this is a superficial understanding of the problem, sin is all the fracturing of creation, the whole thing is fallen from where it is meant to be. So, again, asking God to deal with that here and now....the whole lot would have to go. God is patient and merciful and not wishing that any should perish. He has made the way through Himself, theough His own suffering, and now we have the free will to accept that most precious and miraculous gift, or, we can reject Him. What more could we ask as a solution than for God Himself to hang on a cross!?!
Ah yes, theodicy. No easy answers here. Let me just say that evil is the deliberate rejection of God's will. When humans (or angels) do that, they throw a monkey wrench into Creation, which disrupts the innate goodness of Creation. Everything gets thrown out of whack. Sadly, the unpleasant results are as likely to afflict the innocent as well as those who are actively rebelling against God. We cause the problem, then we blame God for it. SMH.
@@nameless-yd6ko , ho hum. So you think that good and evil are imaginary? I seriously doubt that you live this way. If your child were murdered or your wife were raped, you would be screaming about "evil" and the need for justice.
@@mysotiras21 Ho hum. ~~~ Is that how they say Hello under your rock? ;) So you think that good and evil are imaginary? ~~~ No, Sparky, I know it! I seriously doubt that you live this way. ~~~ Ho hum... What you might "seriously doubt" in your ignorance is of no consequence unless supported by evidence, logical or otherwise. If your child were murdered or your wife were raped, you would be screaming about "evil" and the need for justice. ~~~ said the fool in his egoic assumptions! "We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are!" Obviously you are unable to have a rational and respectful discussion. Muted
Is this a reasonable stance: If evil is prevented, God should get the credit. If evil is not prevented, God should get the blame. Or maybe god views us similar to how we view the animal kingdom, it’s not our fault ‘evil’ happens in the animal kingdom and it’s not necessarily our responsibility to prevent it. Probably more accurate to say god views us similar to how we view our own kids. If my kid does something wrong that I haven’t taught them better about then that’s on me, but if I teach them and they still do wrong that’s on them.
Actually, that we have a God who suffers with us, is the only reason we even ask the question. Pagans would never ask that question, but just think it was an obvious consequence of the way the world is.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Before watching this video let me say that the reason there is evil in the world is because we rejected the word of God and chose the knowledge of good and evil. God warned us that if we did so we would surely die, but we didn't listen, so now we live in a world of evil and we all surely die. God is offering us salvation from this world of evil and death, through the righteousness of Jesus Christ. But I wonder how many will listen and accept the offer, and how many will remain petulant, blame God for the choices they make themselves, and reject salvation.
@Victoria_Loves_Jesus: “God is not limiting his power by giving us free will 3:40” Maybe he is limiting his powers. Damn, he was a cruel and evil fictional monster in the Old Testament. He thrived on fear, murder, killing and punishing. The only love he had was the smell of burning animal fat and oh my word that pleased him and he could not get enough of that.
@@willievanstraaten1960After reading many of your comments I see your very quick to spout lots of your emotionally loaded, deprived of understanding comments at people. You only look at how God punished people and nothing else. Not the broader context.
@@kamil_rachwal7 @kamil_rachwal7: “I see your very quick to spout lots of your emotionally loaded” Yes, very quick and debating about 10 theists at a time on different channels. Follow some of the other apologetic channels and you will find me there on rapid fire. Correct my emotions are driven by truth and facts. My emotions are enthusiasm in sharing my knowledge about the malicious fictional main character in the ancient book of horror and folklore and debunking the silly trash talk superstitious theist post. I am encouraged by people like you when I see I am getting under their skins with the facts and truth from the Bible about their celestial tyrant.
@@kamil_rachwal7 @kamil_rachwal7: “loaded, deprived of understanding comments” Put your trash talk where your superior understanding is, by quoting and explaining your broader context to my comments.
Easy. When a human being works out we do it for any number of reasons from health to capabilities to looks etc. All these things are way beyond the grasp of the muscles being exercised who simply just feel the pain and are forced to grow because of it. Does that mean the brain hates it's muscles or doesn't love the body? No! Of course not! On the contrary people who Love themselves are the ones who workout because they want to take care of themselves and be healthy and capable. So with all that in mind, as Jesus explained, He is the head of the church and we are the body. When God puts people through pain and suffering it can be equated to exercising a muscle. All the person knows is that it hurts and they're forced to adapt. They aren't aware of all the things the brain, God, is aware of as to why He is exercising them. When they pass over back to base reality aka the spirit world and they realize they're now much stronger and much more capable suddenly it all makes sense. God didn't put them through pain because of a lack of Love, on the contrary it was Because of Love and the desire to be better, to grow, to be more capable and healthier, etc.
Argument of the atheist: "If you believe in a merciful God, why does evil still exist? How do you explain that? And don't try to invoke a higher purpose for evil by saying that the human mind is too small to understand the purpose. Because no atheist sees that." Answer of the Christian: "If I fully accept your idea and abandon my belief in God for the duration of this conversation, then you have to explain to me what you mean when you talk about evil. Because then evil doesn't exist. What exists is only human suffering. Since you believe that evil exists, you have no less of a logical problem."
@conor.3875 Evil can also cause suffering, but it goes far beyond that. It is a universal mythical category, and all attempts to describe evil in terms of transgressions of human laws are doomed to failure. All people are outraged by evil when they perceive it, and that is what brings down the logical structure of atheism.
@@andreahoehmann1939 Humans are social animals and therefore abide by socially enforced behavioural norms. This explains the perception of evil (which is not universal, it's unique to humans) and presents no challenge to atheism.
@@conor.3875 If evil is not a universal category, there is no contradiction for Christians either. If they accept such an "Evil 2.0", they would simply answer that God allows events that people dislike, but that only appear evil from a human perspective.
If God why Evil - If God, why Satan ? I don’t get it why do people think God wants you to live a candyland life. He gave you life, lessons and a choice. Plenty and plenty of warnings to be ware of evil. That’s like going to school and something bad happening and saying if I had a father how can he allow this to happen ??? What ???
Irenaeus explained , we are made in the image of God , so like God we have free will. However man is not eternal like god so when we are borne we are spirtualy immature and must work to become like God through study , discipline and experience. You cannot know good unless you know evil. Like our own children we ignore our fathers direction and make our own choices and bring the consequences upon our selves. Faith and obedience are nor forced on us but must be chosen of free will to become like God and not serve our animal instincts.
Good and evil do not exist. What exists are conflicts of interest between agents with intentions. Then we have the mental bias of considering evil everything that seems to go against our interests.
Then Hitler did nothing wrong? There was nothing wrong with the slaying of millions of people? I mean hey, it don't even have to be hitler, how about Osama bin laden? Or the millions of other so called "tyrants"? If good and evil do not exist... then what am I doing in this life? Do anything I want? Do you not see the dangerous implications of this idea?
Where did evil come from? Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever are clearly unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
There is no life without choice. Choice is good or evil. Up or down. Left or right. Pain or pleasure, etc. For every reaction there is a reaction. These are the rules of God’s universe, without these harsh realities there is no life. ✝️
In Genesis 3 the Word of God says, humans decided that they will make themselves their own god and choose what is good and what is evil. The result of that is plain to see. The world is a mess. Asking a question such as “if there is a God then why then is there so much evil?” is a deceitful question as it attempts to shift the blame to God for our decisions. No we should rather ask “why are we so evil?” and then “is God indifferent to our brokenness?”. There you will find the answer that God is not indifferent but paid the ultimate price for our evilness. By sending His own beloved Son, Jesus Christ to die on a cross and face the wrath of God on our behalf. Those that place their faith in Him and humble themselves under His authority as their King will be saved from themselves and their evil deeds.
Cliff 4:20: “I as a follower of Jesus Christ have a risen saviour a Risen Lord Jesus Christ who promised eternal life.” When old Cliff goes into this mode I cannot help to wonder what happened to all the zombies that got out of the graves and wandered the streets of Jerusalem. Shit if your superstition allows you to believe that, you will believe all the nonsense preached by apologists. Who dug the zombies up or did they dig themselves out with their nails? What eventually happened to all these zombies or walking dead? This is funny. If you can get me to believe that I might believe in Cliff’s risen saviour a Risen Lord Jesus Christ.
"might believe"??? 😂😂😂😂 silly atheist.. My Saviour said about the religious leaders of his day that "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
@@samuelguzman5348 “My Saviour said about the religious leaders of his day that "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." How does that elucidate the zombie story? He also dictated the Bible about the zombies and I thought you would clarify the stupid zombie story. So, the clever superstitious theist cannot explain the silly trash talk in the Bible.
@@willievanstraaten1960neither do you apparently realize, even though you "claim" to have "studied" the Bible is that the "walking dead" which you speak of are not the ones who have been made alive in Christ, in reality it is you who are "dead in trespasses and sin".... hence the walking "dead"..Ephesians 2:1 KJB
@@samuelguzman5348 @samuelguzman5348: Matthew 27:50 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. Matthew 27:51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split. Matthew 27:52 AND THE TOMBS BROKE OPEN. THE BODIES OF MANY HOLY PEOPLE WHO HAD DIED WERE RAISED TO LIFE. No problem, I thoroughly enjoy washing the floor with silly, ignorant and stupid theists by using their Bible against them and teaching them about their unholy book.
There is an even simpler answer to the age old stupid question of why God allows evil, and that's freedom, plain and simple freedom. You can't have freedom if nobody is allowed to be capable of hurting you or anyone else, freedom is that demanding. Freedom is a gift from God that ends up causing a lot abuse, a lot of evil. To counter/deal with that, God will judge everyone's actions in life.
Why does God let bad things happen? I am glad He does. I am one of those bad things. Some of my past isn't pretty. But Jesus help free me of the things hurting me and others, and going back in to the fire to help others is my calling. ✨Isaiah 43:1-19 #getusedtodifferent God gives us free will. There is only two teams and we choose. Each action creates a ripple effect in the world. Which means everyone matters and leaves their mark one way or another.
My thoughts. Satan and others rebelled and were created without pain and suffering. If we have free will and always will, then when we go to heaven, we will know that going through all this pain and suffering that Gods plan is far better and would have no reason to want to rebel and not be with him.
Let's keep in mind that there are two types of evil. The first one is moral evil. That is when people do bad things to other people. Given free will moral evil is inevitable. For that matter, without free will moral good is impossible since no one would act out of any conviction about what is right or wrong, but simply by compulsion. The second type of evil is natural, evil, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and disease. These we have to understand from the judeo Christian backstory. All the way back to the Garden. When Adam and Eve First sinned, All of creation was thrown out of whack. God's good creation suffered and continues to suffer because of their disobedience. Things are not working the way they were designed to work and will not until the kingdom of God comes fully in the return of Jesus Christ.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Sin is the trespass of GOD's laws.which is what man is guilty of.sin is evil,which makes all men evil in their hearts.if GOD decided to end evil,we would all be condemned to hell.so GOD tolerates evil,because HE tolerates us.which is Grace on HIS part.HE knows that despite the evil,there is also a willingness to do good in us.
What I think is the reason God allows evil in the world is so everyone can be judged according to their actions. The idea of free will can be possible. If he chooses to stop evil its indirectly taking free will away from humans because for him to stop evil, he has to do it before it happens not after, so how will he judge someone who hasn’t performed an action yet. He just takes away his free will All through the New Testament Jesus our lord tries to teach us of how unimportant this world is but the world to come is what we should strive to be in, that’s the world were he stops evil and it doesn’t exist anymore. That’s the world and life that’s important. So he lets evil and good happen in this world so everyone can be judged accordingly for their actions and their decisions alone, and our free will he gave us to decide what to do at anytime can be possible.
How can humanity appreciate the light without having first been through the dark night? God has promised us that someday this darkness shall pass and He will dwell with us and wipe away every tear for those that will just trust in Him. Our suffering is not foreign to Him for He came and experienced it Himself... because He loves us that much.
But did he ever experience uncertainty? Because as far as I know even Jesus from the bible knew who he was, what his mission was and even his end. One of the greatest problems for every human is uncertainty if he had not experienced that then he never experienced the full extent of human suffering.
I have complex PTSD from a terrible childhood. It's crippling. Being older and single is awful. It's very lonely. I hate seeing Christians go about their life. When they hear my story, they're like, "oh I'm sorry. Feel better! I'll pray for you!" and then they skip out of my life. I don't question God's existence. I just ask Him, "What. The. Fuck??????"
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND because Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever are clearly unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and - 1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS because the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too but ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others who are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Keep in mind, those Christians have sorrow and loss, yet they're going about their lives as you say. There's a book called Paul: A Biography by N.T. Wright. It's about Paul the apostle. He knew harsh suffering, loss, and poverty simply for the sake of the gospel. Check it out. It's most inspiring.
@@rt3tech "yet they're going about their lives as you say." That is some patronizing bullshit. Are you saying I don't know how to go about my day as well? Are you saying I should just suck it up? I'm not reading your f-ing book recommendation. I'm not banking on your crappy-ass life advice while you skip away to find another person to patronize. I'm looking for someone to have a cup of coffee with.
@@oober3690 I also have it. Some ppl won't understand. Megadosing Omega 3s (based on a doctor's protocol online) helped stabilize my brain and greatly reduce associated physical pain, EMDR with focus on Attachment trauma with an educated therapist helped me slooookwly begin to be open to trusting a higher power. Overall, I just know what it's like.
This guys really need a crash course on what atheism is. I also like the fact, the undeniable fact, that the only way this guys know that God is "good and just" is because it's written in the bible. There is no way of knowing that if you haven't read it. So we go full force to the best and most hilarious argument of any Christian..."the bible is true because the bible say it's true". That's the only argument for everything. So, what is the biggest "power" God gave us? The ability to think and rationalize? No, the ability to read. > The bible is true! > Why? > Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story". > But it can be fake > No, it can't > Why? > Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story". > So God is good? > Yes, God is good and just > But if you really think about it, you won't get that. > But he is good and just > How do you know that? > > Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story". ......and this can go for hours and years.....
I had bowel cancer at 34… did I blame God, No, not at all…
I did pray and ask for healing and more time, but I never blamed God. In fact, I said, I understand my situation and if it is in your will that I die, let it be, because ultimately God is good and whatever he chooses for me will without a doubt be good and positive….🫶
Today, 7 years later, I am still here by the grace and mercy of Jehovah God, through his son Jesus Christ I have my testimony that God is good and he cannot do anything evil… God is good despite the evil in the world…. Remember there is no evil in heaven, it’s in the world👌
Amen my balkan brother,God is so good! I failed God so so many times but He remained being so faithful and kind to me. He loves like nobody else,in fact He is Love. See you soon brother,God bless.
You have to be kidding me. He tells us His will. His will is that none would perish but all would repent and be saved. Stop praying “let whomever die” because that’s not Biblical unless you can show me where we are supposed to wish for peaceful death in the same prayer we ask for healing in. Never pray for me to have a peaceful death! Only to return to high function and live long and healthy and productive. It’s wrong and it’s invasive and no church seems to exist where everyone even the pastor gets it. We must model Christ when we pray. Did he tell Lazarus come out here to me unless it’s the Father’s will that you be dead”? Or did he command Lazarus to come out? Full stop! Christ said if we have the faith of a mustard seed we can command the mountains to move and it will be. You ask for what you want and no back ups. Exercise faith by rejecting the doubt that He has the power and Will to free you from Death.
@@gb123-ej8wh Unfortunately, you don't seem to be at ease with natural death. All that Mr. Kovasevic seemed to be saying is that he is at peace with his own mortality knowing he will ultimately be safe in Christ. I've also been in that situation. Couldn't know if I was gonna live or die but before I passed out I was grateful for the time I've had as a believer, and if it was gonna be time, so be it. Someone in Christ should be at peace with his/her death.
@gb123-ej8wh
I hear what you are biblically saying,
but consider this biblical verse.
Isaiah 57
The righteous perish,
and no one ponders it in his heart;
devout men are taken away,
and no one understands
that the righteous are taken away
to be spared from evil.
Those who walk uprightly
enter into peace;
they find rest
as they lie in death.
All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen.
Nevertheless not my will but Thine Will be done..
Isaiah 57
2 He shall enter into peace:
they shall rest in their beds,
each one walking in his uprightness.
Acts 1:7
"It is not for you to know
the times or dates
the Father has set
by his own authority"..
@@sauliruottu5871
Here's the scripture to substantiate the Will of God and death.
Isaiah 57
The righteous perish,
and no one ponders it in his heart;
devout men are taken away,
and no one understands
that the righteous are taken away
to be spared from evil.
Those who walk uprightly
enter into peace;
they find rest
as they lie in death.
All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen.
Nevertheless not my will but Thine Will be done.
Acts 1:7
"It is not for you to know
the times or dates
the Father has set
by his own authority".
Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create the darkness, I make peace and create evil, I the LORD do all these things “. No mystery here.
Exactly
The hebrew "ra" is what is actually said in i make peace and create evil. evil is actually translated to ra which has multiple meanings one is as you noted evil the other is to make worse or cause pain. Obviously this passage refers to the second meaning the Lord makes things worse for those who aren't righteous i.e sodom and gomorroah, Cannanites, the hebrews who doubted and abandoned him during the torah, etc.
I make peace and create evil? Obviously if it was a correct translation it would use the antonym and say "I create good and create evil" which plenty of translations actually say "i make peace and create calamity" which is more accurate given the context of the whole chapter. Verse 8 goes on to write about the Lords righteousness, it would make zero sense for it to be talking about creating evil then talk about righteousness. But what does make sense is discussing how he gives prosperity to the good and calamity to those that are evil.
So yeah i would say there is no mystery here isaiah 45:7 is simply saying the Lord is righteous. Why the KJV has such a off representation given the surrounding text is beyond me but that's why you yourself should read the entire passage rather than just googling things to help your preconceived bias.
Hope that helps.
@@bquick7228Thanks for mentioning this. I knew the translation wasn't as correct as it could be.
@winniecash1654 yeah the kjv chooses odd commitments to translations. I think the niv is the best. It's difficult because in most languages Hebrew included lots of words can have multiple meanings. But given the context of the passage we can be pretty confident of what the original phrasing was.
@@bquick7228 the false god "RA' "RAH" "RE" we live in RE-Ality, "RA" in hebrew means "bad, corrupted, evil, polluted" we dotn live in Ality, we live in RE-Ality.....
So happy to see the channel has shot into the stratosphere!
Love your work gentlemen. Thankyou for your service
We are imperfect from birth, like a chunk of ore that's rich in gold and silver. Suffering is the process that crushes and heats us to the melting point where the precious metals flow and separate from the dross; the dirt which is discarded. If we knew the glory and joy to come, we would welcome any degree of agony as a price worth paying.
That's a great analogy. I'll have to remember that one. Thanks for sharing!
Also Jesus gives us hope for the trials and suffering in this world. If your not joined with him by faith it is a hopeless situation.
Yes and no.
Why animals suffers? We have no idea.
I believe in God, but the fact is that we really have no idea why suffering is part of our life.
In some instances, we can say: I did wrongs so this is why I suffer. True.
But there some instances where this explanation doesn't apply. Why a new born dies in fire? We don't know.
We also don't know why animals suffers.
Saying a new born dies in pain because of devil, seems also questionable.
It's better to recognize: we don't why suffering is present, at least in some instance. God does know why (if there is an explanation, because... remember: sometime only answer is more dangerous than the question itself).
Regarding God's judgment: we shouldn't want that our enemy to be judged! We should want that our enemy to be forgiven, not judged. If we want our enemy to be judged, then we are not really Christians!!! Any justice without forgive and forget and love, it is an injustice!
@@radupopescu9977 I get what your saying. We really don't know why certain things are the way they are. And we'll never know those answers until we get to heaven. My understanding, however, is that animals and babies suffer as a consequence of man's sin. Because we chose to disobey God in the garden of eden, that mistake affected ALL life. That's why Jesus is such a big deal. He's the one who paid the price for our sins, so that there'd be hope after this life.
I like what you said about the ANSWER to suffering being more of a blow than the actual question. That's something to think about! God bless, bud! That was a mind-provoking read!
What if the suffering never ends? How will we be refined if the heat is never turned off?
Without God there is no good or evil, there is only preference
Sure, human preference. How insightful. What's really so bad about that? Evil and good are just labels and you can learn to be fine with it. It makes us feel icky to not have some super duper tie-breaking dictator lay it out for us.
@@niddy-2.0 What's so bad about "human preference"? Do you really have to stretch your memory that far to figure that one out? Maybe you've heard of someone called Adolf Hitler. He had a huge preference for Aryans and genuinely thought it would be _better_ (preferentially) for the human race if they were solely dominant.
But yeah, learn to be fine with it. Great solution.
@@joshua2707 Your emotional reasoning is a tautology. "Bad is what is bad for humans" So when I ask, "Why is it bad that it is up to human preference?" I'm not asking, "Do humans think it's right for it to be preference?" I'm asking, "Is morality existing AS human preference a right or wrong belief?" If your answer is, "humans don't think so" Cool.
Of course I'm never going to label moustache-man-z as "good" I just recognize that if morality isn't an immaterial thing, then it is down to human and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So we're down to moral pragmatism, etc.
which proves that christianity is inherently bad for civilization and everyone in it
People don't believe in Christ because they love thier sin and don't want to bow a knee.
I was just texting a friend about this exact topic. Literally within minutes of "send", this video released. The God that is TRUE + LOVE is always in control. 💜✝️💜
If you believe in a "god" that does EVIL, that is NOT God❗ Look closer at what Christ taught, to find the good God 💜✝️💜
Remember, there are no coincidences when the True and Living God is involved.. God wanted you to hear this. I'm very glad that I clicked on this video. It is so very well done with such reasonable questions and answers, May the True and Living God of the Jewish people and of all Born-Again Christians bless these three men always and continue to cause them to have great teachings like this until Jesus comes back for His church. Amen and amen
If there are no coincidences with God, then there was no coincidence when adam and eve ate from that tree
@@O_troposthey still have a FREEWILL.... Because LOVE is only love if it is FREELY received. It is not love if it is FORCED. God gave them a choice. Adam & Eve freely denied God's love when they stopped TRUSTING Him and rebelled against Him by taking the fruit.
Do YOU have a freewill? Or are you forced to receive love you don't want, AND also forced to trust what you are told without freely evaluating if it is true or false first?
@JoinUsInVR show me in the bible where you have ever read the words free and will together? You are comparing human love with God, that's not a smart thing to do. It's like me saying lions take out all of the men and cubs to have control. You as human should do the same when you meet a new woman with kids. That would absolutely make no sense.
Human love requires for us to be able to choose and not force.
But I got news for you, first of all we are not Gods lovers we are His creation. Which means God is in full control. Secondly acts17:28 disprove your free will and so does phil2:13 or romans9:11-21.
No we dont have free will and neither did adam&eve. They had no knowledge also of what they were doing. They did not understand what evil or good was before they ate of that tree.
All my favorites in one room talking about God. ✝️❤️🙏🏼
This is so good! Thank yall for sharing 😊
It's answers like this that keep the Problem of Suffering arguments afloat. Atheism does not entail despair and we are not borrowing values and morality from Christianity.
It's very straightforward to observe suffering in the world, know that we do not want it, recognize that "free will" does not solve it.
🙌🙌🙌 I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison , where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 monthly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!
That's a major turn around. Praise be to Jesus our Lord. Hallelujah
But then, what do you do? How do you come about that in that period?
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My answer to you would be a question…
Why do YOU create and ALLOW evil?
Another question…
What is the nature of this world of flesh?
I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!
Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly?
I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
It's Ms. Evelyn Vera doing, she's changed my life.
I started pretty low, though, $5000 thereabouts. The return came massive. Joey is in school doing well, telling me of new friends he's meeting in school. Thank you Evelyn Vera you're a miracle.
This life is only temporary.
Thank God!
You said " this life" , which indicates you believe that theres life after death .
If so which life do you think is more important? The life we have now or the one after?
Speaking like a misguided believer, ugh. Learn the significance of your earthly life before you squander it.
@許國讚 who?
This universe too. It was never meant to last forever. And it only exists for us.
Proverbs 16:4
The Lord has made all for Himself,
Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
The one verse that tells all stories that have ever been told and answers all questions that have ever been asked.
Praise our LORD JESUS! HE is LORD; HE saves and HE Redeems!
The world is fallen and evil. And any goodness comes from God. Even pleasure that gets abused is a gift from God
If evil is the result of our free will without God's intervention, does the absence of evil after the Rapture denote a lack of free will?
I wouldn’t say “evil is the result of free will without Gods intervention”. There is evil in this world because this world is cursed as a result of sin. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that “Satan is the god of this world”. It also says that there are 2 realms. This physical realm, and the spirit realm. Sin creates a veil and basically blinds us to the spirit realm - even though the spirit realm is more alive and active than this physical realm. The Bible talks about how right now there is spiritual warfare happening in the spirit realm. It also says that God is Holy. Holy means set apart, and pure, and sinless. As believers in Jesus, when we die we will be reunited with our creator. And heaven is a place of no suffering and no sin. It is completely set apart. When we get to heaven we will see God face to face and have desires that are pure and holy, and be operating out a place of pure love. No more jealousy, or anger, or unforgiveness, or bitterness, or selfishness or any of those destructive sinful behaviors. Ultimately God wants us to know him and have a relationship with him now so we can start behaving more pure and holy, and bring heaven to earth. God wants to dwell in our hearts, and transform our mind, so that we can be the hands, feet, and voice of Jesus.
@@Christina6552 good question and beautiful answer!
@@Enerodriveabsurd answer
Why do you think there is no evil after the Rapture? Where are you speaking of?
Sort of. You make the choice during this life, you lay down your life, you choose to exist only in holiness. I think we will have lots of choices, but evil things won't be an available choice.
Advanced congrats on 800k subs 🎉
Great video, thanks
Amen brotha preach!
As I grew up into some weird agnostic, Buddha's realization that 'all life is suffering' hit home when I thought about it. Intellectually there was a spiritual wisdom there...but as an agnostic I also imagined I found spiritual wisdom in T Lobsang Rampa and Carlos Castaneda. I think what ultimately pushed me back into Christianity is the lack of a loving God in Buddhism, and perhaps every other faith. Unlike the primates of many so-called Christian churches, I do not consider God and Allah to be synonymous. I think Baal or Lucifer is the high society god of the West's elites. We seem to live in a composite of heaven and hell.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS are OPPPOSED and AGAINST the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
are
clearly the HATERS and OPPOSERS of the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST on earth
because
they are unitedly and obviously -
1. opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. also opposed, against, and will never ever accept the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their willful opposition and rejection of what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS
ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward
to
LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18.
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
will
never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths
while
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee
that
all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under
the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Don’t just wait and die in faith! Cry out to God. He is waiting for you❤
John 9
And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
This makes more sense than those two pastors.
If the evil person then becomes a Christian, does he then escape judgement?
That is what the bible says. John the Baptist and Jesus both preached repentance. A turning away from sin. And then following Christ and keeping His commands. A true Christian cannot continually sin. The Holy Spirit will convict them of it. Go read the end of rev chapter 20.
Let me share the gospel with u and hopefully it will clear some things up. For all the details, read the book of John in the New Testament. It’s all about Jesus and the gospel.
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No matter how wonderful or “good” a person is, we ALL are sinners (especially in our minds and hearts). We ALL are petty, or lustful, or greedy, or power hungry, or hedonistic, or disrespectful, or jealous, or envious, or selfish, or dishonest, or hold grudges, or are overly prideful, etc.
Those sins leave a filthy disgusting mark on our souls that is NOT erased by our good deeds. Good deeds don’t cancel out bad ones, so there is no way for us to clean ourselves off. And every time we sin, we break God’s rules and rub even more putrid sewage on our souls.
Compared to the pure sinless, holy glory of almighty God, how do we look? Disgusting, sinful, corrupt, dishonorable, disgraceful, UNWORTHY. NONE OF US deserve to even be in his presence much less to live with him in the unspoiled magnificent beauty of Heaven.
Since God is a just, righteous judge, our sins have consequences. And when we die, that means we won’t be allowed to enter Heaven. Sin cannot enter Heaven, and we are all covered in it. So, we will end up being eternally separated from God.
But God knew that when he gave us free will, we would sin… and yet he loves us anyway (even though we are sinners) and wants ALL of us to go to Heaven. So what was the solution? God the Father came up with a plan and Jesus (God the Son) agreed to it.
Jesus basically volunteered to temporarily leave his heavenly throne and powers behind and become just a man. Why?
1. So that he could show all of humanity how to live a perfect, sinless life.
2. Also, thru him, we could personally get to know God the Father.
3. But the MAIN reason was to SAVE us from having to endure the punishment we rightly deserve; to do that, he needed to be punished in our place.
He was betrayed, arrested, beaten, slapped, humiliated, spat on, whipped, nailed to a cross, and suffered a slow, horrible, agonizing death (while people mocked him) to pay the price for our sins. That’s why he sacrificed himself… to SAVE ALL of us. He was our scapegoat, our whipping boy.
He was willing to endure all that because he loves EACH ONE OF US that much. And when he died, all our sins (past, present & future) were forgiven. He essentially bought our “ticket to Heaven” with his blood.
3 days after his death, he rose from the dead in a glorified body and showed he really was the Son of God and that if we trust in him, we too will have eternal life with him.
He holds that ticket out to EACH ONE OF US saying “I love u. I died to save u. Please accept my gift to u. All u have to do is trust me and follow me. Will u do that?”
This is a heart issue. He wants us to open our heart to him and see the love he has for us.
God wants this from us:
- To have a close personal relationship with him. To talk to him all day about everything: our frustrations, our fears, our successes, our failures, our pain, etc.. He is our loving father, after all.
- To be humble before him.
- To realize that we are sinners and no matter how many good things we do, without Jesus, our sin will keep us out of Heaven.
- To be thankful for Jesus sacrificing himself on the cross to pay the price for our sins.
- To feel sorry for our sins.
- To make a commitment to try to be more Christlike and stay away from sin…. Because it is the right thing to do and because it is pleasing to God.
- To realize that he loves us deeply and that we have immense value to him.
- To accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior.
This was God’s plan: to make it so easy for EVERYONE to get to Heaven and live with him. All he asks is for us to be humble and rely on HIM instead of being overly prideful and relying on OUR own RIGHTEOUSNESS to “earn” our way into Heaven. He wants our humility and trust.
If we do that… Boom… We are saved!
The ticket to Heaven is ours!
Pretty cool. We can ALL get to Heaven NOT because of what WE DO but because of what JESUS DID….it is thru his LOVE and sacrifice that we are saved… his amazing grace & forgiveness. It makes no difference what terrible things we might have done. When we accept Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are saved!
That is the good news of the gospel of salvation thru Christ.
That’s it. It’s so simple. Does God want us to stop sinning? Of course. Besides being the right thing to do, we know it will please him… and we should WANT to please him; after all, we owe him so much. And we should also WANT to be good representatives of Christ… but he knows we are not perfect. Only Jesus was able to live the perfect sinless life. But, God wants us to keep trying anyway. He really likes it when we keep making a sincere effort & turn away from sin. When we screw up, we need to be sorry and try harder next time…. That is the commitment God wants from us.
Be humble and open your mind and heart and will to God. Tell him that u want to serve him and want him to be part of your daily life. Ask him to fill u with the Holy Spirit. Let him fill u with the truth of his love & grace for u. The gratitude, joy & peace u will receive is life changing.
@@IthinkImOk-k7g ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are unitedly and obviously -
1. opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. also opposed, against, and will never ever accept that Jesus Christ is the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their opposition and rejection of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
clearly
don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings,
obviously
unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS
ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward
to
LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee
that
all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under
the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Romans 8:1 ‘There is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus’ If you truly repent and turn from your sin, God promises forgiveness and eternal life in His Son. What an amazing God we have!
We live in this body that has sin nature and as long as we're in this body,we will sin and be evil however when we trust in Jesus that He made full payment for our sins with His blood and is risen from the dead,we are forgiven of all sins and the part that people left out is we're born again,Jesus makes us new,He gives us Holy Spirit and seals us in Him,we cannot lose our salvation just like we can't gain it.
Jesus does work in you,if you let Him,and you will stop lying and cussing or being drunk or whatever your thing is,He will help you overcome that sin,if you cooperate with Him because He respects your free will option but an born again believer wouldn't rape or murder or do such horrible things,i believe so at least,i am not quite sure honestly what Bible says,not completely. One day at His return,He will give us a new glorified body likened to His. We will not hunger or thirst or have all these bodily needs and functions like going to bathroom,we will be able to fly,to speak into each other's minds and read thoughts,stuff like that. Heaven is whole another world,the difference is something like to what were we able to do in our mother's womb and what after being born when we're in this world and it's way bigger in Heaven. God bless.
God sent us here to learn and grow. He gave us two gifts. Agency, the first gift, allows us to chose. Only through choice can we truly learn and grow. He did this knowing our choices would separate us from him. But, and this is what the commentators missed, there is no agency without opposition. Without the presence of evil it is not possible for us to choose good. And then God gave us bodies because they enable our agency.
Christ is the second gift. He enables us to repent of our choices to do evil that we may return again to live with God. Suffering is (one of) God's mechanisms to turn souls towards him. All suffering is designed to bring souls closer to God. Illness, cancer, death, etc... returns souls to God at death. Suffering that doesn't kill us is meant to turn our hearts towards God as it does throughout holy scripture. Job, Christ, the Israelites, etc... turned towards God in their moments of anguish, slavery, misfortune, etc.
Protestants struggle with this because the death of children and their returning to God is extra biblical and breaks sola scriptura. I found it funny that Cliff mentioned judgement when Protestants writ large beleive that judgment has no power. As long as you have accepted Christ you are unavoidably heaven bound. They may as well call judgement a stern scolding that does nothing before you are accepted into heaven.
I like 2 Corinthians 4:17...The suffering here and now is lightweight and for a moment (in the scope of eternity), when put on the scale with the eternal and infinitely massive weight of glory He'll reveal in us...there's just no comparison.
On the other side of eternity, He'll wipe away every tear from our eyes. But just like Jesus weeping for Lazarus whom he was about to raise-He weeps with us on this side of eternity even though he knows all will be made right.
He carries all our diseases. . . There's nothing we can possibly go through here and now that He doesn't feel compassion for, and no suffering or scars that He can't melt away with eternal joy, peace and comfort.
I can totally appreciate any atheist using this question as a reason to question God.
The problem is that they stop there.
They need to further into getting their valid question answered.
Christians aren’t exempt from these feelings and questions too, yet we go back to the correct answer. We no longer struggle with this question.
Our minds are at peace with God.
Well, our very souls are at peace with our God.
It’s a no brainer, yet they will still fight this.
We need a spanish version of this.
Trying to understand what free will really means isn't an easy thing finally
Thanks!
Thank you!
**QUESTION**: if God created everything, does it follow then that God created evil?
My cousin asked me this. I don’t know how to answer it 😳
In the beginning, at creation when God created everything it was proclaimed good. The best it could be. Perfect. All animals .perfect.Man and woman created sinless. Perfect. They were given a command. Obey my voice. By God. And the satan came along ,tempted eve. And she sinned and then Adam sinned. They brought sin and the fallen state into the world. But even then they could still have lived a righteous life. And Cain could have been a good person. Just like all of us. We could all live and be perfect but we don't. That is not out nature now.We need Christ to save us and guide by the Holy Spirit. Freewill has consequences.
Checkmate. Atheism is true. Obviously.
There is always one obvious flaw in the theists arguments here. They ignore god is supposedly omnipotent which means he could fix these issues at his will…but he doesn’t.
This whole free will paradox is a clever disguise for the perfectly reasonable conclusions that god doesn’t care, doesn’t exist, or is a really bad creator who’s inept.
Great video! My view on why evil exists:
Evil must exist in order for us to know and understand "good". Like how darkness (shadows) must exist for us to understand that light exists and appreciate its goodness.
Also, we must experience and know evil in this life in order for us to understand and experience the perfect goodness of Heaven when we get there. If we lived in a world without evil then our experience in Heaven would be futile and the promise of Heaven would seem more like reincarnation.
With that belief there are only 2 options. A: God caused evil or B: Evil is equal to good which means God isn't all powerful.
Basically what you are describing is yin and yang, not christianity
Evil is a consequence of free will,i would say it's as simple as that.
We can choose to do good or evil,to save life or to kill etc etc.
God bless.
@@YeshuaSaves726more accurately, evil is the result of a god who doesn’t exist, doesn’t care, or isn’t omnipotent. It’s ACTUALLY as simple as 👈🏼 THAT.
@DM-dk7js If God doesn't exist then evil cannot be His result. If God doesn't care about you then how come you got,for example,all the organs you need to function properly or that you have your own DNA,you are unique? How do you think evolution is our origin? How do you think evil and good exists without God?
What is justice without God? It's all our own opinion and standard,there is no objective standard for good or evil.
I don't know what happened to you in your life to get you to believe He's not real and is evil and doesn't care and etc but i hope and pray God will wake you up to the evidence that He does care about you and is omnipotent and loves you and etc and that you would believe in Him and trust Him and have eternal life,amen.
I know Him and i know He's not at all what you described,He is beyond goodness we can understand.
I failed Him countless amount of times yet He was so faithful and kind and loving and was always there with me and for me and if you let Him,He will do the same for you. God bless.
@@YeshuaSaves726right. Agreed. God doesn’t exist so I don’t blame him for evil.
God didn’t create this mess, we did. He created Eden.
I'm sorry, but the comparison with a scraped knee and a bandaid was just silly to say the least and not very helpful.
Practicing the sinful discrimination of judging 'good' and 'evil' is exercising the vain and prideful practice of the original sin of stealing the 'fruit' from the forbidden 'Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil'!
Very interesting thought! But only in the sense of labeling certain actions of God as evil. We now have the knowledge of good and evil and to not discern between the two in our own lives is disastrous.
I love these conversations. Those two… I could just listen all day long, so good you all can get together and put out something good.
Without suffering, we cannot truly experience joy. Suffering even brings out the inate love God has given us. When we see others suffer, we want to help.
The reason suffering exists is because of free will. Which leads to suffering, which leads to us truly understanding love, joy and hope.
There's a reason "and it came to pass" is so widely used in the bible.
P.S. i appreciate the work you do!
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
clearly
don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
What is the purpose of the suffering of animals. Do they have souls and go to heaven too? If a baby suffers from a disease or starvation, and dies, what did the baby learn? Did it experience true joy at any point if all it knew was pain and suffering until death? And what does the baby’s free will have to do with its suffering? The baby is powerless. And where does the baby’s soul go without having repented of the sin it was apparently born with or without accepting Jesus?
@@Quanthefather ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS will NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
because
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
believe their own LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths.
ATHEISM, just like ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS will also NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
because
Atheists who believe their own LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
will
just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths.
BELIEVERS of JESUS CHRIST's AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS will LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER
because
LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the AUTHORITY of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
will
definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
and
the TEACHINGS of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee
that
all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
as
submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
under
the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@Quanthefather my baby is a couple months old. Yes, she experiences joy.
Her smile melts my heart to pieces. When you see the baby mountain goat frolicking on the trails with it's parents, while hiking in the mountains, that is them experiencing joy.
@@stevenreber1887 I don’t doubt that.🙂 But you didn’t really address my questions. Anyway, I wish you and your family the best.
Then truth is that most of you reject the answer
What I don’t understand as a Christian is why natural diseases come on babies and young children like cancer and other illnesses
Hard question to answer and even harder to accept. But I will give it a shot and give you a story. Let's say we have three families, each with one child.
1. First, have a son with cancer. They pray the son is healed. God gets all the glory. This is the one that everybody wants.
2. Second, the Son has cancer. They pray. The son still dies. The family curses God. They leave the church.
3. The third family .the son has cancer. The child dies. The man and women are heartbroken but they praise God for His grace and time they had. But from this they do many things that would have never been possible if this tragic thing had never occurred. God gets the glory. But this is the hardest to accept. This is what justifies God actions. The child ultimately is with God in heaven and the parents will see Him and forget about the sadness they had in this life. We have ,have to look beyond this life.
@@gradyjohnson78534.Fourth case, there is no God, child dies of canser becose life is cruel and some are unlucky . This is the hardest to accept, but makes the most sense.
@@gradyjohnson7853you ignored one obvious possibility. That god doesn’t exist doesn’t care or sucks at creating.
Yup. It’s one of those. How sad you thought any of that was logical.
@haepy2953 maybe , but i will share what happened with me. In 1996. My wife gave birth to our youngest child. A boy. He was still born. Black and blue dead. Medically dead. I saw it. We were destroyed. then the doctor screamed for a nurse. Blood hit floor. The doctor kicked me out. And my wife died. I ended up in a waiting room alone, more or less in shock. Numb. I cried out to God I did not understand or really know for help. My wife was dead for several minutes. She saw her body. Then she met God. His face glowed with so much power she could not look at it. And she saw His hands and arms. There were holes in His wrists and her spirit knew who He was. Beyond words.
He showed her future things and so far they have came true. Time works different there. Then,after a while He sent her back. Eventually, they came and got me. I asked what had happened. We cried. Then the doctor asked if we wanted to see our son, and we said no. We would do that later. And then they brought out our son, and he was alive. You see it was impossible for him to be alive. He had two knots in his umbilical cord. Medically impossible but yet here he was. God raised two people from the dead. He is 28 years old. His actual time of alive was several minutes after he was born. There are medical records somewhere.
@DM-dk7js my wife died during childbirth. She met that God you don't believe in. And also my son was stillborn. At that time I was close to being an atheist or agnostic myself. But it got real and I had no option but to cry out for help. My wife had a nde. And my son was a dead piece of meat. I saw him.black .blue dead.b I was mentally a basket case. she met God. And He gave her a glimpse of her future then sent her back. She didn't want to come back. And He also gave life to my son. Even today invisible medically impossible for my son to be alive considered the way he came into this world. Two knots tied in his umbilical cord. At least should have been brain dead. Only way I can explain it. But today he is a mechanical engineer and has an iq of around 167. Way smarter than me. There were many witnesses to what happened. I can't explain it. It just is. And Jesus is the Living Savior.
I believe, it's not really about the evil things people do to each other. This could be explained with a free will. But more like, why do somentimes the weakest and most innocent of us have to die or suffer immensely. Free will does not apply here.
Solid video
Glory!!! After so much struggles l now own a new house with an influx of $155,000.00 every month God has kept to his words,my family is happy again everything is finally falling into place.God bless America 🇺🇲
That's a major turn around. Praise be to Jesus our Lord. Hallelujah
But then, what do you do? How do you come about that in that period?
It is simply the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Big thanks to Mrs Mildred Evelyn Rooney
Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me
While the concept of 'biblical justice' is easy to pin down, the word 'fair' is not. The latter is too subjective (cf. John 9). While I may have a very small and limited insight into the nature of evil and justice compared to the inscrutable and unlimited insight God has, I am, in the vast majority of cases, totally ignorant of why your (i.e. the other person) personal experience of evil (and suffering) has the shape and form it does for you.
Btw, I found the solution to evil, namely 'judgement', very helpful. Thank you.
In order for there to be true freewill for us. We have to be able to choose between what is ultimately good and bad. And consequences go with those choices and unfortunately can affect many others. And also have events that move through out time. Great good can come out of it and also extraordinary evil. It is not a true choice if consequences are not allowed. God will save every soul that wants to be saved.for those that seek Him out. And has a provision for those that have unwillingly lost their lives due to the wickedness of others or other unfortunate circumstances. He has grace for people that repent..
But how can man, limited by a sin nature, ever choose what is good? It is only through the grace and power of God that free will truly becomes “free” in the sense of being able to choose salvation (John 15:16). It is the Holy Spirit who works in and through a person’s will to regenerate that person (John 1:12-13) and give him/her a new nature “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” (Ephesians 4:24). Salvation is God’s work. At the same time, our motives, desires, and actions are voluntary, and we are rightly held responsible for them.
@johntrevett2944 i look at it this way. If we are saved we have a choice. By the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome sin by denying it. And if we fall to be reconciled by repentance. But an unsaved person has to obey the fallen nature. Different mindset and nature.
@@gradyjohnson7853 Scripture clearly states that none of us seek God and we love darkness/sin. I agree that the Holy Spirit enables us to live righteously.
@johntrevett2944 Holy Spirit has to draw us. Jesus says that" My sheep hear My voice". good reply.
@@gradyjohnson7853 John 6 ;) You know your Bible. Glad you have discernment. God speed
The world is evil because God is just and merciful
@victorobanda769: “The world is evil because God is just and merciful”
No, your fictional god likes evil.
He boasts that he created evil in the Bible.
Therefore, it is obvious that he loves evil.
He was even in charge of a band of evil spirits that he commanded to go and harm people.
@victorobanda769: “The world is evil because God is just and merciful”
The mythical ancient god of the Bible likes to let people suffer because he is evil.
Read the Bible it is overflowing with his malicious deeds of murder, killing, hardship, hunger and suffering.
Look at the story about poor old Job. He went through hell because of a wager he made with the devil that served on your god’s heavenly council.
@@willievanstraaten1960
You can't understand the Bible with pure humanistic eyes. Even the story of Job is not meant to teach what you wrote...
@@willievanstraaten1960What exactly is your point? If atheism and materialism are true, then everything is permissible because as Richard Dawkins says in his book the God delusion, matter neither knows nor cares, there is no evil and no good, DNA just is and we dance to its music.
So what standard do you appeal to other than just your emotions that we can verify your opinion is valid?
@@hamerful @hamerful: “You can't understand the Bible with pure humanistic eyes. Even the story of Job is not meant to teach what you wrote...
Well, I am only giving what I am getting from the book your fictional god who is alleged by Christians to have dictated the saga.
God wrote that Satan attended his heavenly council with other angels.
God explains that he and the Devil had a wager about Job’s loyalty.
Maybe you should read the Bible for yourself and not depend on deceitful, dishonest, trash-talking and fact-twisting Apologists.
God's existence defines good and everything He is *not* is evil, or that which exists contrary to Him, all that rebellion. It's all for His glory and Him sharing that glory, which magnifies it further...and we won't understand the grand scale of it until we "know as we are known" one day. I'm glad these guys don't focus on the postmodernist proof-style debates, but rather leaving God separate (holy). I think it's so hard debating in those ways...people seem to try so often and it's probably why we are failing and seeing all the 1st world countries fall away, and why focusing more on the fact that people will never actually understand God fully here is an important part of the discussion...and much easier in 3rd world countries because they actually suffer regularly.
One small point I pseudo-disagree with...I don't think it's a limit of His power to allow free will because, from an entirely God-sided perspective, it's impossible to create free will in a logical sense (which unfortunately makes this argument even harder hahah). He is the Beginning and the End, "Before Abraham was, I AM," He exists at the start and the end and everything in between simultaneously, He is not bound to space or time, and thus before He even creates one of us, He knows every decision we will make; He could have created us differently, prevented all disease, made Lucifer not rebel, but chose what He chose for His glory. We appear to have free will from every observation and metric we can ever see in this life, but to say that we could ever make a decision God didn't know about before He created anything just shows a lack of imagination and understanding of the absolute degree of God's power (or just hubris!). If you think I'm over-imagining the power of God, I would encourage you to simply think about what He created...the nature of reality is still a complete mystery...souls are immeasurable, gravity is all but agreed upon to not exist in favor of relativity but that has loopholes so it's still probably wrong, the sheer scale of everything from the tiniest quark to the magnitude of the observed universe...our own bodies are simultaneously powerhouses and fragile little twigs...like...come on, to think a single person would ever grasp the vastness of God in our lifetimes is crazy XD He didn't limit his power, we simply don't understand...yet.
What I'm really curious to find out is if God literally created logical concepts or if they simply exist one way because He is the other...like hatred, did He literally create it or does it simply exist because He is love? Perhaps control is one of those negative concepts that exist because He is freedom?
So by definition, God cannot do evil. How convenient.
Because no one is worthy of God’s grace.
Why is there suffering?
The right question would be:
Why is there something else than suffering in the life of a sinner?
Sounds like god is a dickhead then.
If we don't seek God then we will suffer. We have to seek God. We have to find and know him. This world is not of God. It's wicked because the devil own this world and it nor of God. So we must seek God for protection from this world.
The solution is God. He is your solution. Hope in Him, hope. Get to know Him and who He is and what He is. That is the answer.
Blaming God for evil is the same as blaming sun for the heat.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever
clearly
don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings,
obviously
unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
You mentioned that the atheist view is that the logical conclusion of evil, death and suffering is despair and that there’s no solution to the problem of suffering. I’ve found that my atheist friends accept this. Their take is just “Yeah despair and suffering. It just is. There’s no solution. Accept it.” It’s hard to argue with that
Despair, why? Because you need counseling or therapy? I can never take theists seriously when it's turned into an existential crisis. There's no dictate to feel despair because something is temporary. All that tells me is that the person makes that correlation and it makes them sad. People don't think that far into it and it doesn't have to be that way.
Its easy to say that until they have to enter into it, people are far to comfortable! As Christians we are called to bear other peoples crosses and our own, if your world view is theres no solution to despair and suffering just accept it , that just sounds lazy and foolish.
@@theparadigmshift74 I suffer a lot of the time, don't believe, and accepting it is possible and not foolish. You lack imagination. You'd be surprised what people are capable of enduring.
@@niddy-2.0 trust me i know, i suffered alot too especially with DPDR and anxiety for 13 years until i was saved and born again and delivered from it the day i called out to God, im not sure why someone would rather just deal with it alone and be hopeless. The issue was my sin caused my own illness, and until it was forgiven i was just a prisoner to myself.
@@theparadigmshift74 Glad you're better. Non-theists have each other too. So the "alone" thing is not true for everyone. The hopeless thing also because we don't teach people to get help, professional help or make it accessible. What if what you were struggling with wasn't labeled sin? Do you think your anxiety of it would be as high?
I told god, no more the cross god because god will handle instead. he will carry because he caused. I used to tell god, I rather be crucified than seeing animals suffering. The sufferings were beyond imaginable.
It's a simple answer, really. God created men and gave them free will. Free will led to the fall, and the fall created suffering. Why does God allow suufering? In order to eliminate suffering, he would have to eliminate free will. It's all on us, not God and it goes all the way back to the Garden Of Eden and Eve's sin followed by Adam's disobedience.
There was no Garden of Eden. Humans evolved from other life forms. Learn elementary biology!
But if everything were about a dynamic in which we finally "have to choose" the good to "return to God" why? As an all-powerful God, he is not going to come up with another design of reality in which we do not necessarily have to live in a very twisted way, this dynamic of reality, only to realize that "we have to return to him." It is a very twisted design of reality dynamics.
It is as if I as a video game developer were to code with a game with that same dynamic... wouldn't you think that the developers are somewhat twisted and intrinsically evil enough to design a game like that? Imagine if I give reasoning and "free will" to those characters in the game, and make them aware of all this dynamic of reality... it is VERY TWISTED.
Understanding that a belief in God caused people to pick up rocks and help others stone their closest relatives, will certainly explain that God was created.
Consider the many different ways these might have happened. Did they target the head for a quick, humane death? Did they decide which one aimed for the legs, arms, heads, in sequence? Did they stop for a bit to see if more was necessary?
These events show two things; it’s absolutely horrible what belief does to the human mind. Second, if the mark of the beast does come, it can only benefit, therefore, fulfilled through believers. Impatient and distraught one’s. The same mindset that flew those planes into those buildings.
Atheists referring to scriptures they don't really know.
Ppl want a 6 pack without following a strict diet. They want heaven without having a strict diet of Christ. The question in itseof is seeking the promise of God without honoring God
Maybe you could set time for question from subscibers. I have some.
Cool idea! How would we do that?
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom I am not sure how. Maybe ask for any questions and answer 1 or 2 at the end ? Or if you get a lot do a show on them? Or pitch the idea and see if it will work.
I just can't agree with Cliff when he says God chooses to limit His power in order to preserve our "free will". That seems to be saying human free will is God's highest priority, or at the very least, He prioritizes human free will above ending pain and suffering. I certainly don't reach that conclusion from the pages of Scripture. Does he? How would one defend his position biblically?
What about the Genesis1 chapter 26 a bit confused about Let us make the mankind in our image
The Bible's answer to this is that God owns all things and doesn't owe people anything. It's very specific about how the ends does not justify the means, so God doesn't say, "It's for a better reason." God simply tells Job, "Everything belongs to Me."
Creation cannot merit the favor of God; it does not and cannot earn God's goodness. He is loving, because anything good He gives is grace. If He doesn't do good to someone: "Does not the potter have the right over the clay?"
It's mankind that demands good from God and claims that He isn't loving if He doesn't give them what they want. But He doesn't exist for us and we do not have rights to His favor. Rather, we owe Him our lives. He has said, "Tell the righteous it will go well with them, for they shall reap the fruit of their ways." So, if you want to escape a world you didn't create, that you are having issues with, the solution is to obey God. "But men have loved darkness because their deeds were evil."
Furthermore, the Bible is very clear that the only way to heaven is through Christ and that all men are judged through Christ. This idea that babies are innocent and that children don't need to know Jesus is also not Biblical; "Anyone whose name was not written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
3 ressons why I believe there is evil in this world. 1. Man has free will and the heart of man is evil. 2. There is a devil! Most people forget this but the devil moves around like a roaring lion seeking whom to devour. His aim is to steal, kill and destroy! 3. We live in a fallen world. Related to no 2 but v distinct. In eden, we arent told of sickness or diseases. In heaven there is no pain. Hopefully this helps strengthen someones faith!❤
If the heart of man is evil, what happens to that heart in heaven? Is it suddenly magically “good”? Why would that be? Is free will circumvented in heaven? Do people become zombies?
Why doesn’t God stop the devil? Imprison him somewhere, or make him the king of some other planet somewhere devoid of life? Aren’t humans God’s children that he supposedly loves? Why leave them at the mercy of the devil? Is the devil as powerful as God?
If we live in a fallen world because of Adam and Eve’s sin, why isn’t heaven a “fallen world” after Lucifer and his angels sinned by rebelling against God? If sin can still happen even in heaven and in the presence of God, what’s to stop further sinning from happening when humans get there? Free will still exists in heaven doesn’t it? It must because Lucifer apparently rebelled by his own free choice.
For me, the only persuasive answer to this question is that it's conceivable that God reasons for allowing the immense suffering we see in the world (animal and human) that we simply cannot comprehend in our present, limited state. And if we trust Him in other areas, we can trust Him here, too - trust that there is a good reason, although we don't understand it (similar to how my dog trusts me even when I'm doing something that hurts him, because he knows I love him and it's not malicious). However, if you're an atheist, you don't have that second piece (already trusting Him in other ways), so the first piece (the idea that he may have good reasons we just don't understand) will seem rather abstract and empty.
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The free will defense comes up short for me. First problem is that it only applies to human malevolence. It doesn't account for hundreds of millions of years of animal suffering prior to human beings even showing up on the scene. Second, our wills are not entirely free but are constrained by human nature and all its emotions, distortions, needs, and impulses. God created that nature and the world that shaped it via evolution, so to say evil is due entirely to our own free will choices is sort of a setup job - God gets off the hook and we're left holding the bag.
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If I were an atheist, I wouldn't find quoting scriptures or talking about Jesus's suffering persuasive. That may be a comfort to people who already believe, but to a non-believer, it's not going to matter.
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It's a difficult issue. It's what originally drove me away from faith at age 13. I've since come back, but it's something I still wrestle with (especially "natural evil" and animal suffering, which often gets ignored in these discussions). There aren't any easy answers. Maybe that is part of the "test" of being down here.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS are OPPPOSED and AGAINST the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST
Atheists
who are claiming that GOD doesn't exist
are
obviously opposed, against, and will never ever accept that the Creator is the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and rejection of what's written in John 17: 3
and
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
believe the Unbiblical teachings of their Pastors and Leaders about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
are
obviously opposed, against, and will never ever accept the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their willful opposition and rejection of what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS
ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward
to
LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18.
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
will
just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths
while
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee
that
all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under
the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
History tells us that... Every Great Nation’s Days Are Numbered. Sir John Bagot Glubb wrote this in the 1950’s. He was an Army General and historian. He studied eleven empires starting with the Assyrians in 859 B.C. and ending with the British in 1950. Sir John determined that each empire followed a remarkably similar pattern from birth to demise. Spanning a period of about 250 years, each went through the following 7 stages before their collapse:
1..The Age of Pioneers. 2. The Age of Conquests. 3. The Age of Commerce. 4. The Age of Affluence. 5. The Age of Intellect. 6. The Age of Decadence. 7. The Age of Decline & Collapse.
He also added these traits to the decline. Defensiveness, pessimism, materialism, frivolity, an influx of foreigners, the Welfare State, and a weakening of religion. To what did he attribute this decadence? Too long a period of wealth and power, selfishness, love of money, and the loss of a sense of duty. Again, please remember, this was written in the 1950’s.
USA…248 years of great power...Hummmmmm.......Looks like we are next…Jesus is returning very soon…
Several years back in the late 1940’s, Paul-Henry Spaak the first President of the United Nations General Assembly said “We do not want another committee, we have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all people, and to lift us out of the economic morass (confusion) into which we are sinking. Send us such a man and be he God or devil, we will receive him.”-Paul Henri Spaak, the first president of the UN General Assembly, first president of the European Parliament, and onetime secretary general of NATO. God predicted this in His precious Bible almost two thousand years ago. Please read Revelation, chapter 13, especially verses 16 through 18. May the True and Living God of the Bible bless you. Amen and amen
I cannot find his bloody book for under hundreds if dollars. I just want a physical copy of his magnificent work.
Well said. Do you have the title of the book by Glubb? Sounds like an interesting read..
God bless and Maranatha.
Title of the Book please ?
Whatever the reason, we know that it is not because He doesn't love us (Tim Keller).
If God were to deal with evil and suffering in the way we think He ought, then humanity would have to be wiped out. Sin and evil are the issues, suffering is an outworking of them. So to deal with all the suffering, the sin and evil would have to be dealt with, and there is none righteous, no not one. We rage at God for not taking away evil and suffering, whilst ignoring the fact that we are full of sin and evil. God allowing things to continue as ugly as they are is the most incredible act of mercy and self control, upholding free will, by which great evil can occur, but also the only mechanism through which true love and relationship come.
God doesnt want robots, He wants relationship with His children, and to make that possible free will must remain.
For God to deal with sin, that means all sin, not just the stuff our relativistic self dictates, whilst we pointing judgement at others whilst dismissing and justifying our own wickedness.
Plus, sin isnt just about what we do that is wrong, this is a superficial understanding of the problem, sin is all the fracturing of creation, the whole thing is fallen from where it is meant to be. So, again, asking God to deal with that here and now....the whole lot would have to go.
God is patient and merciful and not wishing that any should perish. He has made the way through Himself, theough His own suffering, and now we have the free will to accept that most precious and miraculous gift, or, we can reject Him. What more could we ask as a solution than for God Himself to hang on a cross!?!
Ah yes, theodicy. No easy answers here. Let me just say that evil is the deliberate rejection of God's will. When humans (or angels) do that, they throw a monkey wrench into Creation, which disrupts the innate goodness of Creation. Everything gets thrown out of whack. Sadly, the unpleasant results are as likely to afflict the innocent as well as those who are actively rebelling against God.
We cause the problem, then we blame God for it. SMH.
Good and evil exist in the vain and prideful minds of the beholders!
@@nameless-yd6ko , ho hum. So you think that good and evil are imaginary? I seriously doubt that you live this way. If your child were murdered or your wife were raped, you would be screaming about "evil" and the need for justice.
@@mysotiras21 Ho hum.
~~~ Is that how they say Hello under your rock? ;)
So you think that good and evil are imaginary?
~~~ No, Sparky, I know it!
I seriously doubt that you live this way.
~~~ Ho hum... What you might "seriously doubt" in your ignorance is of no consequence unless supported by evidence, logical or otherwise.
If your child were murdered or your wife were raped, you would be screaming about "evil" and the need for justice.
~~~ said the fool in his egoic assumptions!
"We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are!"
Obviously you are unable to have a rational and respectful discussion.
Muted
Is this a reasonable stance: If evil is prevented, God should get the credit. If evil is not prevented, God should get the blame.
Or maybe god views us similar to how we view the animal kingdom, it’s not our fault ‘evil’ happens in the animal kingdom and it’s not necessarily our responsibility to prevent it.
Probably more accurate to say god views us similar to how we view our own kids. If my kid does something wrong that I haven’t taught them better about then that’s on me, but if I teach them and they still do wrong that’s on them.
Actually, that we have a God who suffers with us, is the only reason we even ask the question. Pagans would never ask that question, but just think it was an obvious consequence of the way the world is.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
clearly
don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The REAL question is why is MAN so evil, when he doesn't have to be.
Before watching this video let me say that the reason there is evil in the world is because we rejected the word of God and chose the knowledge of good and evil.
God warned us that if we did so we would surely die, but we didn't listen, so now we live in a world of evil and we all surely die.
God is offering us salvation from this world of evil and death, through the righteousness of Jesus Christ. But I wonder how many will listen and accept the offer, and how many will remain petulant, blame God for the choices they make themselves, and reject salvation.
There are no good people for bad things to happen to.
???? God is not limiting his power by giving us free will 3:40
I almost think the words he should have chosen are "limit his control"
@Victoria_Loves_Jesus: “God is not limiting his power by giving us free will 3:40”
Maybe he is limiting his powers. Damn, he was a cruel and evil fictional monster in the Old Testament. He thrived on fear, murder, killing and punishing. The only love he had was the smell of burning animal fat and oh my word that pleased him and he could not get enough of that.
@@willievanstraaten1960After reading many of your comments I see your very quick to spout lots of your emotionally loaded, deprived of understanding comments at people. You only look at how God punished people and nothing else. Not the broader context.
@@kamil_rachwal7 @kamil_rachwal7: “I see your very quick to spout lots of your emotionally loaded”
Yes, very quick and debating about 10 theists at a time on different channels.
Follow some of the other apologetic channels and you will find me there on rapid fire.
Correct my emotions are driven by truth and facts.
My emotions are enthusiasm in sharing my knowledge about the malicious fictional main character in the ancient book of horror and folklore and debunking the silly trash talk superstitious theist post.
I am encouraged by people like you when I see I am getting under their skins with the facts and truth from the Bible about their celestial tyrant.
@@kamil_rachwal7 @kamil_rachwal7: “loaded, deprived of understanding comments”
Put your trash talk where your superior understanding is, by quoting and explaining your broader context to my comments.
Easy. When a human being works out we do it for any number of reasons from health to capabilities to looks etc. All these things are way beyond the grasp of the muscles being exercised who simply just feel the pain and are forced to grow because of it. Does that mean the brain hates it's muscles or doesn't love the body? No! Of course not! On the contrary people who Love themselves are the ones who workout because they want to take care of themselves and be healthy and capable. So with all that in mind, as Jesus explained, He is the head of the church and we are the body. When God puts people through pain and suffering it can be equated to exercising a muscle. All the person knows is that it hurts and they're forced to adapt. They aren't aware of all the things the brain, God, is aware of as to why He is exercising them. When they pass over back to base reality aka the spirit world and they realize they're now much stronger and much more capable suddenly it all makes sense. God didn't put them through pain because of a lack of Love, on the contrary it was Because of Love and the desire to be better, to grow, to be more capable and healthier, etc.
Argument of the atheist: "If you believe in a merciful God, why does evil still exist? How do you explain that? And don't try to invoke a higher purpose for evil by saying that the human mind is too small to understand the purpose. Because no atheist sees that."
Answer of the Christian: "If I fully accept your idea and abandon my belief in God for the duration of this conversation, then you have to explain to me what you mean when you talk about evil. Because then evil doesn't exist. What exists is only human suffering. Since you believe that evil exists, you have no less of a logical problem."
Suffering gives us morality. Evil is that which is contrary to it.
@conor.3875 Evil can also cause suffering, but it goes far beyond that. It is a universal mythical category, and all attempts to describe evil in terms of transgressions of human laws are doomed to failure. All people are outraged by evil when they perceive it, and that is what brings down the logical structure of atheism.
@@andreahoehmann1939 Humans are social animals and therefore abide by socially enforced behavioural norms. This explains the perception of evil (which is not universal, it's unique to humans) and presents no challenge to atheism.
@@conor.3875 If evil is not a universal category, there is no contradiction for Christians either. If they accept such an "Evil 2.0", they would simply answer that God allows events that people dislike, but that only appear evil from a human perspective.
If God why Evil - If God, why Satan ? I don’t get it why do people think God wants you to live a candyland life. He gave you life, lessons and a choice. Plenty and plenty of warnings to be ware of evil. That’s like going to school and something bad happening and saying if I had a father how can he allow this to happen ??? What ???
Irenaeus explained , we are made in the image of God , so like God we have free will. However man is not eternal like god so when we are borne we are spirtualy immature and must work to become like God through study , discipline and experience. You cannot know good unless you know evil. Like our own children we ignore our fathers direction and make our own choices and bring the consequences upon our selves. Faith and obedience are nor forced on us but must be chosen of free will to become like God and not serve our animal instincts.
Good and evil do not exist. What exists are conflicts of interest between agents with intentions. Then we have the mental bias of considering evil everything that seems to go against our interests.
Good and evil exist in the vain and prideful minds of the beholders!
Then Hitler did nothing wrong? There was nothing wrong with the slaying of millions of people? I mean hey, it don't even have to be hitler, how about Osama bin laden? Or the millions of other so called "tyrants"? If good and evil do not exist... then what am I doing in this life? Do anything I want? Do you not see the dangerous implications of this idea?
Religion is like Warhammer 40k, everything is so cool and magical but does not exist eventhough millions care about the material.
Lest we become prideful and spoilt like Lucifer did.
Suffering it’s the reason why we have the bible
Where did evil come from?
Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever
are
clearly unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
There is no life without choice. Choice is good or evil. Up or down. Left or right. Pain or pleasure, etc. For every reaction there is a reaction. These are the rules of God’s universe, without these harsh realities there is no life. ✝️
Your choice naturally is what sin do you want to commit. Thats it. You can never choose righteousness. This is the human condition.
So can you choice evil in heaven ?
@@haepy2953 Saved believers can't choose sin in Heaven.
@@johntrevett2944 so no free will in heaven?
Amen
God is love, but Satan does that thing with his tongue that I like !🙏
Jesus Christ of Nazareth...
In Genesis 3 the Word of God says, humans decided that they will make themselves their own god and choose what is good and what is evil. The result of that is plain to see. The world is a mess. Asking a question such as “if there is a God then why then is there so much evil?” is a deceitful question as it attempts to shift the blame to God for our decisions. No we should rather ask “why are we so evil?” and then “is God indifferent to our brokenness?”. There you will find the answer that God is not indifferent but paid the ultimate price for our evilness. By sending His own beloved Son, Jesus Christ to die on a cross and face the wrath of God on our behalf. Those that place their faith in Him and humble themselves under His authority as their King will be saved from themselves and their evil deeds.
These guys talk to the atheists on their level. They are smart, respectful and cogent instead of just being pious. They actually answer the questions.
If no evil then why God?
Cliff 4:20: “I as a follower of Jesus Christ have a risen saviour a Risen Lord Jesus Christ who promised eternal life.”
When old Cliff goes into this mode I cannot help to wonder what happened to all the zombies that got out of the graves and wandered the streets of Jerusalem.
Shit if your superstition allows you to believe that, you will believe all the nonsense preached by apologists.
Who dug the zombies up or did they dig themselves out with their nails?
What eventually happened to all these zombies or walking dead?
This is funny. If you can get me to believe that I might believe in Cliff’s risen saviour a Risen Lord Jesus Christ.
"might believe"???
😂😂😂😂 silly atheist..
My Saviour said about the religious leaders of his day that "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
@@samuelguzman5348 “My Saviour said about the religious leaders of his day that "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
How does that elucidate the zombie story?
He also dictated the Bible about the zombies and I thought you would clarify the stupid zombie story.
So, the clever superstitious theist cannot explain the silly trash talk in the Bible.
Well, the only one who apparently believes in "zombies" is you.. the silly atheist.. they must've eateth your brain..
@@willievanstraaten1960neither do you apparently realize, even though you "claim" to have "studied" the Bible is that the "walking dead" which you speak of are not the ones who have been made alive in Christ, in reality it is you who are "dead in trespasses and sin".... hence the walking "dead"..Ephesians 2:1 KJB
@@samuelguzman5348 @samuelguzman5348:
Matthew 27:50 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
Matthew 27:51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split.
Matthew 27:52 AND THE TOMBS BROKE OPEN. THE BODIES OF MANY HOLY PEOPLE WHO HAD DIED WERE RAISED TO LIFE.
No problem, I thoroughly enjoy washing the floor with silly, ignorant and stupid theists by using their Bible against them and teaching them about their unholy book.
Only devil exists example is nature just be òbservant and analytical in approach
There is an even simpler answer to the age old stupid question of why God allows evil, and that's freedom, plain and simple freedom. You can't have freedom if nobody is allowed to be capable of hurting you or anyone else, freedom is that demanding.
Freedom is a gift from God that ends up causing a lot abuse, a lot of evil. To counter/deal with that, God will judge everyone's actions in life.
Why does God let bad things happen? I am glad He does. I am one of those bad things. Some of my past isn't pretty. But Jesus help free me of the things hurting me and others, and going back in to the fire to help others is my calling. ✨Isaiah 43:1-19 #getusedtodifferent
God gives us free will.
There is only two teams and we choose. Each action creates a ripple effect in the world.
Which means everyone matters and leaves their mark one way or another.
Because suffering has a greater purpose than we can see.
My thoughts. Satan and others rebelled and were created without pain and suffering. If we have free will and always will, then when we go to heaven, we will know that going through all this pain and suffering that Gods plan is far better and would have no reason to want to rebel and not be with him.
"because suffering has greater purpose than we can see."
you can see...
Then how did you realize that?😂
And that would be what??? You can’t see it, remember, so how can you even say that?
@ Suggested reading: Problem of Pain by CS Lewis.
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain for the old order of things has passed away.
Let's keep in mind that there are two types of evil. The first one is moral evil. That is when people do bad things to other people. Given free will moral evil is inevitable. For that matter, without free will moral good is impossible since no one would act out of any conviction about what is right or wrong, but simply by compulsion. The second type of evil is natural, evil, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and disease. These we have to understand from the judeo Christian backstory. All the way back to the Garden. When Adam and Eve First sinned, All of creation was thrown out of whack. God's good creation suffered and continues to suffer because of their disobedience. Things are not working the way they were designed to work and will not until the kingdom of God comes fully in the return of Jesus Christ.
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly rejected all that were written in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 about the Creator's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
clearly
don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, ungratefulness, unkindness, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
REJECTION of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS will bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Sin is the trespass of GOD's laws.which is what man is guilty of.sin is evil,which makes all men evil in their hearts.if GOD decided to end evil,we would all be condemned to hell.so GOD tolerates evil,because HE tolerates us.which is Grace on HIS part.HE knows that despite the evil,there is also a willingness to do good in us.
What I think is the reason God allows evil in the world is so everyone can be judged according to their actions. The idea of free will can be possible. If he chooses to stop evil its indirectly taking free will away from humans because for him to stop evil, he has to do it before it happens not after, so how will he judge someone who hasn’t performed an action yet. He just takes away his free will
All through the New Testament Jesus our lord tries to teach us of how unimportant this world is but the world to come is what we should strive to be in, that’s the world were he stops evil and it doesn’t exist anymore. That’s the world and life that’s important.
So he lets evil and good happen in this world so everyone can be judged accordingly for their actions and their decisions alone, and our free will he gave us to decide what to do at anytime can be possible.
How can humanity appreciate the light without having first been through the dark night?
God has promised us that someday this darkness shall pass and He will dwell with us and wipe away every tear for those that will just trust in Him. Our suffering is not foreign to Him for He came and experienced it Himself... because He loves us that much.
But did he ever experience uncertainty? Because as far as I know even Jesus from the bible knew who he was, what his mission was and even his end.
One of the greatest problems for every human is uncertainty if he had not experienced that then he never experienced the full extent of human suffering.
I have complex PTSD from a terrible childhood. It's crippling. Being older and single is awful. It's very lonely. I hate seeing Christians go about their life. When they hear my story, they're like, "oh I'm sorry. Feel better! I'll pray for you!" and then they skip out of my life. I don't question God's existence. I just ask Him, "What. The. Fuck??????"
ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
because
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ's authority and teachings written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are worthless and useless too, no value whatsoever
are
clearly unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, and -
1. Satanic LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. Satanic LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS
because
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions too
but
ONLY for LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
who
are all worthy and deserving of being RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and
fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Keep in mind, those Christians have sorrow and loss, yet they're going about their lives as you say. There's a book called Paul: A Biography by N.T. Wright. It's about Paul the apostle. He knew harsh suffering, loss, and poverty simply for the sake of the gospel. Check it out. It's most inspiring.
@@rt3tech "yet they're going about their lives as you say." That is some patronizing bullshit. Are you saying I don't know how to go about my day as well? Are you saying I should just suck it up? I'm not reading your f-ing book recommendation. I'm not banking on your crappy-ass life advice while you skip away to find another person to patronize. I'm looking for someone to have a cup of coffee with.
@@oober3690 I also have it. Some ppl won't understand. Megadosing Omega 3s (based on a doctor's protocol online) helped stabilize my brain and greatly reduce associated physical pain, EMDR with focus on Attachment trauma with an educated therapist helped me slooookwly begin to be open to trusting a higher power. Overall, I just know what it's like.
god allows the sufferings because he can handle. he is willing to suffer anything in this world. small problem to him.
This guys really need a crash course on what atheism is.
I also like the fact, the undeniable fact, that the only way this guys know that God is "good and just" is because it's written in the bible. There is no way of knowing that if you haven't read it. So we go full force to the best and most hilarious argument of any Christian..."the bible is true because the bible say it's true". That's the only argument for everything.
So, what is the biggest "power" God gave us? The ability to think and rationalize? No, the ability to read.
> The bible is true!
> Why?
> Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story".
> But it can be fake
> No, it can't
> Why?
> Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story".
> So God is good?
> Yes, God is good and just
> But if you really think about it, you won't get that.
> But he is good and just
> How do you know that?
> > Because the bible say it's true, it's written right there: "based on a true story".
......and this can go for hours and years.....