Sonic vs Goku All Forms
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2023
- I didn’t put Hyper Sonic because
1. Not canon
2. Hard to find many clips and they’re all fan-animations anyway
3. Featless
Don’t read the bottom
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I'll tell you why Sonic stomps DB's verse, both Sonic from the games and the comics
•Entire Archie comics is an omniverse and our own real life is within that omniverse.
•Archie Comics has several quotes, necros and lovercraftian archetypes that are Outerversal to High Outer.
•In IDW there are Dimensional Matrix/M-Theory which are 11D structures, and the IDW verse also fits the Archie Sonic Verse, as all the Sonics are in the same cosmology as Archie.
•Remembering that even other games are zones within the Sonic back of games and comics, such as The Legends of Zelda, Mario World, Street Fighter and others.
•Archie comics is a megaverse of the Marvel omniverse
According to interviews with Ian Flynn and Ken Penders, Archie comics is the gateway to Marvel, a place where new Marvel readers should start and with several crossovers that Marvel and Archie Comics had, and especially the part of Archie Comics being an alternate reality of Image Comics/Top CoW who is part of marvel.
Image Comics/TopCow is 20D-∞D.
•Sonic in generations restored all space and time just running.
•The same solaris in the games is the same as in Archie Comics, and in the Sonic 06 Databooks it said that solaris could destroy the entire verse to nothing.
•Inside the Archie Sonic Verse is absolute infinity, as stated by knuckles himself "We are traveling to the limits of infinity... But not to limits at infinity".
•Within the Image Comics that is canon also in Archie Comics, there are other verses within such as Transformers and others and THESE SAME THEN LINKED TO THE ARCHIE SONIC VERSE.
•All of the Cosmic interstate gets to travel between zones, universes, dimensions and everything, it mainly links up in other verses of the entire Archie Comics omniverse.
•Archie Riverdale and Archie Sabrina are part of Archie Sonic's verse, like zones.
•Sonic in The Secret Rings defeated Erazor who became 1 with the 1001 Arabian Nights, and Sonic at the end of the game managed to restore all pages of the book of 1001 Arabian Nights.
•There are metaphysical regions in The Secret Rings and Sonic can walk through it at will like it's nothing.
•The entire Phantom Ruby distorts space-time as stated in the Sonic Mania Databook and this same Phantom Ruby was used to create Infinite which is said to have unlimited power.
•Chaos emeralds are a concept beyond space and time, beyond human and scientific understanding.
•The concept of time is irrelevant in Archie Sonic Verse.
•Knuckles with the chaos emeralds managed to transcend all space-time and can go to a plane superior to ALL EXISTENCE.
•The force of chaos is everything
•Within Archie Comics there is the concept of Platonic Love/Friendship.
•Inside Sonic's back is transfinite math and various other concepts that enhance cosmology.
•Image comics also have an omniverse like Archie Comics
•Sonic during the Genesis Wave, always used her power that said he had no limits and could destroy / rewrite all existence
•All Sonics are in the same Sonic multiverse from games and comics
Catching Hyperversal, Outer and High Outer is super easy at Archie Comics
WE AINT TALKING ABOUT COMICS THERE
Yea super sonic
Had truble against a robot in sonic frouteirs goku can mop the floor with the powers up final boss and all the sonic frontiers bosses with one hand in base
Blud can't you read? He said all sonics are the same through the games and the comics🤦♂️@@yoshissbkgod6285
Bro made a paragraph just to tell his opinion
I do can read but i didn't read allat since i have a life you dumass@@SoulKingAshs
Sonic Gets Agility
Goku is lucky that this isn't archi sonic 💀
True
Sonic is a family-friendly Dragon ball Z
mean while shadow with an smg
@@Stickymation also creepy ahh sonic cd easter eggs
Super sonic 2 crying in the corner (yes he is canon in sonoc frontiers)
He just wasn’t needed, Super Sonic was more than enough.
As a db fan sonic shits on goku and the whole verse.
Lol
Other than Base vs Base and TUI vs SS, it's somewhat decent. Good job.
What parts did you think were wrong?
@@Tantris-Edits Base Sonic vs Base Goku and TUI Goku vs Super Sonic. Sonic stomps with negative difficulty in both of them.
@@EpicGamer-69 True
Sonic: Goes to unimaginable speed
Goku: UI is a state of mind that no matter what attack they throw at you, you dodge it
This could be interesting
Game Sonic soloes the Dragon Ball Verse with ease. This is clearly made by a Dragon Ball Fanboy.
Cap
Fact@@King_Hikari
T you are so stupid
Bro game sonic be Dying by spikes
And goku got shot in the chest BY A BEAM AND SIRVIED bro goku solos
Archie Sonic>>>>>>>>>dragón ball verse
Hypet sonic vs goku all forms
In case if you didn't knew, there's a channel called "OfficialDivine". He scaled Goku's power with all the source there is. I would've wrote down a whole essay why Goku can actually beat Sonic in a sense of way.
Exactly
Might watch later
Drip goku, seraphim goku, game zeno goku, AF goku, and SSJ infinity goku joined the chat
arechie sonic 😎
Archie sonic is at best high outer with irrelevant speed while these guys pack boundless strength (some at least)
Game Hyper Sonic join the chat:
Bro sonic base beat Baku base ezz☠️
Huh?
@@Tantris-Edits sonic base beat goku base☠️
@@vijayaletchumi9327 you kid scem☠️
What is this song lyrics 😊😊😊
My Ordinary Life x I Got No Time
Base sonic gets durability as he tanked hits form the time generator and the titans universal to multiversal threats. Also he survived hits from Enojack who easily universal at a low ball.
sonic negs bud
there is never a shortage of those who see reality randomly, lol
huh@@B3nja238
Nah goku ssg//ssb and ui/mui is stronger than ss sonic
super is way stronger
even base is enough
SSG: Low Multiverse
SSGSS: Multiverse
UI: Somewhat above SSGSS
MUI: Somewhat above UI
TUI: low complex multiverse or higher
Super Sonic: low complex multiverse
@@Tantris-Editssabes que eso es mentira porque goku es outoversal
@@GokuUchiha-hu9ykproof
pov if it was fan made goku: MUI infinty sonic: oh sh
i think base sonic is enough to solo his whole verse sonic in base is literally outerversal the comics don't lie.
Bruh goku will win
Want to explain why?
@@Tantris-Editscan you tell us some feats of sonic?
@@Tantris-EditsCan you tell what information you got to talk bullshit?
You are being a fanboy, base Sonic from game solos, do I need to explain about hyper or archie? Y'all now that both forms clap Goku
Fax tho
Correction: Base Sonic>>>Base Goku
Super Sonic>>>True UI Goku
Corrección goku>>>>base sonic
Sjj blue goku>>>super sonic
@@GokuUchiha-hu9yk bro is a Gacha Goku fanboy kid 💀☠️☠️💀☠️☠️
@@GokuUchiha-hu9yk pov aparece hyper sonic
It’s all over for Goku when Sonic pulls up with the Super Emeralds and becomes Hyper Sonic 💀💀
How does agility go to base Goku??
I think I made a mistake but at the time I thought Goku had more agility while Sonic is just raw speed
@@Tantris-Edits ight
sonic wins
Bro thinks Mui goku is weaker than super sonic 💀
thas crazy💀
It is true sonic be Multiversal in super he is just broken
@@user-nt-89 super is NOT stronger than mui it might be strong but not that strong
Archie sonic weak dummies you guys ain't human
Bro Archie sonic isn’t canon
I'm suprised his new form didnt get here
Facts
Sonic game version one taps goku
Cap
@@King_Hikari in sonic colors wii sonic out ran a black hole
@@NATASHARUSSELL-nl4hoyea he did outrun a black hole
@@MoobsYT goku never did so your point
@@NATASHARUSSELL-nl4ho game Sonic solos
Goku fanBOYS 😂
Dude sonic only defeated only one Giant stupid robot while goku fought many he may be dumb and a monkey but he also created a galaxy
But I still think sonic would win Bec he was the one getting a first and ultra instinct form on games
😂
@@SonGoku12493 you just can’t accept reality😂
Game Super Sonic is actually a lot weaker than you think
Base Sonic was enough 🗿
De hecho no
@@user-bc9cl8hq2d Yuh uh
Goku, the iconic protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, stands as a formidable force in the realm of anime and pop culture, renowned for his unparalleled strength, unwavering determination, and relentless pursuit of self-improvement. In a hypothetical confrontation between Goku and Sonic the Hedgehog, Goku's victory is not merely a matter of speculation but rather an inevitable outcome dictated by a multitude of factors spanning physical abilities, combat experience, and existential prowess.
First and foremost, Goku's sheer physical might eclipses Sonic's capabilities on every level. Born a Saiyan, a warrior race known for their innate strength and potential for exponential growth, Goku has pushed the limits of his physicality through rigorous training, intense battles, and unwavering resolve. With each new challenge he faces, Goku transcends his previous limits, achieving new levels of power that defy conventional understanding. His mastery of various martial arts techniques, combined with his extraordinary speed and agility, renders him a force to be reckoned with in any combat scenario. Sonic, while undeniably swift and agile, simply lacks the raw power and combat expertise necessary to match Goku blow for blow.
Moreover, Goku's extensive combat experience grants him a distinct advantage over Sonic. Throughout his journey, Goku has faced adversaries of cosmic proportions, from intergalactic tyrants to godlike entities, each confrontation honing his combat instincts and strategic acumen. He has fought alongside and against the most powerful beings in the universe, learning from each encounter and adapting his techniques accordingly. Sonic, on the other hand, primarily engages in battles against the nefarious Dr. Robotnik and his robotic minions, rarely encountering opponents who pose a genuine threat to his existence. While Sonic's speed may allow him to outmaneuver lesser foes, against an opponent of Goku's caliber, such tactics would prove futile in the face of overwhelming power and skill.
Furthermore, Goku's indomitable spirit and unyielding determination serve as catalysts for his triumph over Sonic. Time and again, Goku has defied insurmountable odds, emerging victorious through sheer force of will and unwavering belief in his own potential. His boundless optimism and thirst for challenge drive him ever forward, pushing him to push past his limits and strive for greater heights. In contrast, Sonic's cocky demeanor and tendency to underestimate his opponents could prove to be his downfall when faced with an adversary as relentless and determined as Goku. While Sonic may possess a strong sense of justice and a desire to protect those in need, these qualities pale in comparison to Goku's unwavering resolve and willingness to sacrifice everything for the greater good.
Additionally, Goku's mastery of various energy-based techniques, such as the iconic Kamehameha wave, grants him a significant advantage over Sonic. With the ability to harness and manipulate ki energy, Goku can unleash devastating attacks capable of decimating entire planets. Sonic, while possessing his own unique abilities, lacks the means to counter such overwhelming displays of power. Even Sonic's famed supersonic speed would be of little use against Goku's energy-based assaults, which can target foes with pinpoint accuracy and devastating force.
In conclusion, while Sonic the Hedgehog may possess impressive speed and agility, he ultimately pales in comparison to Goku in terms of raw power, combat experience, and unwavering determination. Goku's unmatched physical strength, extensive combat prowess, indomitable spirit, and mastery of energy-based techniques all but ensure his victory in a hypothetical showdown with Sonic. In the end, Goku's status as a legendary warrior transcends mere mortal limitations, solidifying his place as one of the greatest champions in all of fiction.
Sonic is a legendary knight
Sonic defeated Erazerjinn which power is limited only by his imagination.
Kid Goku destroys Super Sonic that's the truth
Super Sonic has 7 Celestial emeralds powers
It can't bro
@@amirram8308Explain then
@TheWaterHashira3Good explaination
Your meat riding goku say kid goku can beat super sonic if he touches sonic he is dead
Sonic umilla a Goku
English
@@Tantris-Editshe say Sonic beat goku
@edwinhancco2140 dillo in'inglese le persone non capiscono l'italiano
spongebob > every canon DB saga verse
🗿
FAX i heard it takes like a 3 billion sponge bobs to beat goku it takes 1 lol
I have a rule in my mind: never believe the fight outcome by someone who have a logo of the winner✅
👿
@@Tantris-Edits looks like the rule hits you harder😜
This better be Archie Sonic? Please tell me.😅 Great edit though.
Game Sonic lol. Super Sonic has immeasurable speed and low complex multiversal AP so Goku would have a hard time trying to hit Sonic but he might be able to catch him off-guard with TUI.
Super Sonic could also be argued to be outerversal due to Solaris “destroying the whole cosmology”
@@Tantris-Editsbro, lemme tell you something, actually the strongest attacks, guns, lasers, anything that could destroy planets couldn't put any affects on the supersonic power,
@@Tantris-EditsGame Super Sonic does not have immeasurable speed. Provide evidence
@@Clyde975 defeated Solaris who was omnipresent
It was stated in the iv jump issue that gokus first battle with beerus was extra dimensional/ super dimension or cho jigen but then that was when goku first got his super saiyan god but then absorbed its power into his base form so goku is extra dimensional in base
Sonic is extra Dimensional in base form as well
@@RadioDemon-z9k when did it state that he was extra dimensional im base?
@@silveriron2016 Precioustone
Support the Existence of extra Dimensional
And Solaris is above Dimensions + he is also the Super dimensional being
Sonic's power has gotten Stronger
And also how is beerus super dimensional?
@@RadioDemon-z9k goku and beerus fight in the 2013 v jump issue was stated that it was super dimensional or extra dimensional which means above higher dimension or cho jigen and since goku was in super saiyan god at the time and he absorbed that power into his base form it makes him cho jigen in base and since koyama stated that there are infinite dimensions in dbz universe it would mean anyone who can destroy the living universe only would scale to high hyperversal but since goku being extra dimensional and being able to destroy the universe and wayyy more it would scale him to high outer in base
@@silveriron2016
Sonic is Extra Dimensional able to beat Void in base form Void destroyed the Precioustone that created maginaryworld a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone amd the stone supports the existence of extra Dimensional
And dreams are stated to be limits
Maginaryworld is made by the dreams of Sonic’s universe that is stated to be Infinite Void was in his second form
Solaris is the Super dimensional being
He has been stated to be able to destroy dimensions and he is above dimensions
Cho jigen
Speedrunner mario joined the chat
Sonic: i beat his as-
*died in a nanosecond*
Wait, what?
A fight
Guy. Sonic fan think sonic can win everything CAP 🧢 ☠️☠️💀☠️💀💀
Bro sonic vs cc goku bro please
I haven’t watched DBH but I might make it anyway
Just be fair guys sonic was inspired by Goku and which means if goku never existed there won’t be a super sonic to love and like
Fair
Now that's ridiculous asf
Why did Zoro show up
😶
*Cyber Super Sonic left the universe*
What about Hyper Sonic?
Non-canon
@Tantris-Edits Ain't no way people still think he is not canon in 2024💀
@@Beatboxing_Leprechaun Hyper Modern Sonic doesn’t exist
@Tantris-Edits Classic Sonic does have a Hyper form, and Classic Sonic is just Sonic when he was younger
@@Beatboxing_Leprechaun And Modern Sonic doesn’t have access to hyper form
Stop capping
Also hyper sonic is canon
How is he canon
Beacuse sonic 3 is canon
@@Daniel_tcb True.
Hyper Modern Sonic doesn’t exist
still couns tho @@Tantris-Edits
Listen to me, maybe you're a Sonic fanboy or what? I'm a fan of Sonic and Goku but you don't have to be a fanboy either, it's actually like that, Goku ssjgod and blue definitely surpass super sonic
Super Sonic is 5D while SSG forms are multiversal
@@Tantris-Edits But is that Sonic the normal one or the one after Frontiers? If that Sonic is the normal one then Goku ssjgod surpasses him in his super Sonic form, but if he is the one after Frontiers then he beats him by a lot
@@user-yp9nv6mf1f every super sonic>midku
Goku fanboy
Your telling me just a super sonic can surpass MUI and UI?????????
Likely
All fun and games until super sonic gets blue eyes
They don’t really need to compared because they it’s not like they’re gonna fight
They’re from different universes
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a crossover where Goku and Sonic had a friendly battle
@@Tantris-EditsThey would need to nerf Goku cause he’s too strong just like in the One Piece and Dragon Ball Z crossover But it wouldn’t be fair because Goku negs Sonic it’s not even a question I think both of us can agree on it
@@Peak.Editz_ You trying to say Luffy is more powerful than Sonic?
@@Tantris-Edits Nah but Goku is stronger than Sonic
@@Peak.Editz_ maybe base but not Super Sonic
Can't give durability to tui goku since Super Sonic is invulnerable
That’s more endurance but ok
Not trying to be mean, but Super Saiyan god Goku, super Saiyan blue Goku and mastered in true instinct Goku can solo supersonic maybe if you get them correct, you may get a little more views
And I’m not trying to be mean, but why they made a long sentence
Read the start of the video, all Canon forms. Is Super Sonic the only Canon form in the franchise? Where's Excaliber, Darkspine, not even Hyper. And bro really forgot about Sonic's new form.
I’m pretty sure Excalibur isn’t canon, Darkspine isn’t canon and Hyper Sonic probably isn’t canon but even if it is, it’s featless
@@Tantris-Editssonic mentioned secret rings in generations which means the story boom games are canon
@@Tantris-Editsbruh all the transformations that sonic got in every game you named are canon. The fact that sonic transformed himself in other dimensions are different, and hyper sonic that is actually canon as well as the others
He didn't include them because sonic only needs super sonic to beat Goku unless uses TUI this video is accurate
You forgot starfall super and hyper wich is actually canon considering ian flynn wanted him for the final battle but sega won't allow it, the manual and guidea references to it not to mention the end is mentioned to be stronger than solaris so actually sonic win the last one, and actually even with the uis, sonic still gets hax.
hyper isn't canon just because flynn wanted it
@@cyanthehedgehog777 it's canon both mania and main dimension is shown, and mentioned in multiple guides, the super emeralds are the reason from the chaos emeralds change from their original desing
@@flamellamarada4153 mania does not confirm theyre canon
@@cyanthehedgehog777 you need to read more i said both mania universe and the main one, and i said the guides, the chaos emeralds change, hyper is indeed canon
@@flamellamarada4153 yeah no none of those specify hyper is canon. also whos to say the chaos emeralds changing isnt just sega changing the design
Sonic base vs goku bsd
Strength: Sonic
Sonic broke the paradox prism
Durability: Sonic
Lasted 1 year rounding up without stopping running and fighting
Edurance:sonic
Sonic resisted the existential erasure of solaris that outerversal high scale
Super Sonic vs Goku Tui
Seriously? Does a tall multiversal goku beat a tall outerversal sonic?
Strength: Sonic Prime isn’t canon and that’s striking strength
Durability: That’s more like endurance and that doesn’t prove Sonic has better endurance
Endurance: That’s in super form
@@Tantris-Edits1- In the words of Takachi Izuka, Sonic Prime is part of the unification that they are making of the Francisia
2- Durability is how long you last fighting
When Solaris existed and erased the verse, Sonic was on the basis of
@@Tantris-Edits Look at this very summarized without much explanation
Lmao what?😂
1-paradox prism has null durability, any attack can destroy it, It is not because he has universal+ power that his durability will also be universal+
2-wtf? Lmao this isnt even a durability feat lol
3-solaris didnt erase the verse, he just created a type of black barrier, and if he erasured the verse, so why sonic friends could enter in it? Lol this isnt a endurance feat
And how do you scale game super to outerversal? He only is multiversal+ at verry verry best
@@tiagitoTH_editz 1- Zero durability? To begin with, you don't even know what durability is, durability is the time it takes to fight, to resist empiaftia and blows is resistance and the paradox prism was literally thrown off a mountain and it didn't break and also the eggman mecha was gripping it tightly and I couldn't even if I wanted to tear it out of sleep
OG vs CoPy
Goku can beat universal level opponents in buu saga so with the power of a god ontop of that you still think a planet level sonic could beat him in the db galaxies are ALOT bigger than the ones in are universe and while powering up he could create one beneath his feat (also he can fill up an infinite void of power with his energy in his ui state)
Bro how is sonic planet he's way beyond that🤦😑
@parkerjunior1 all he can do is punch some scrap metal change my mind
@@Goku_animations567..............🤦😑 you did not see any sonic games bruh
Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801 dragon quest is nor apart of Dragon ball and you got this from reddit
Bro forgot about Cyber Super Sonic,Ultra Sonic,and Hyper Sonic
Ultra hyper aren’t cannon
@@WITHERSTORM296 they are canon
@@WITHERSTORM296 and plus it says all forms and yet it doesn't show all forms
Yes my is goku and his my favorite anime character
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@@Tantris-Edits I means my favorite anime goku
@@vedamine_95?!?!?!?!
Hyper is canon
Either way he’s featless
Man to bad we won’t be able to see hyper sonic ever in future games the design right now if he was still around he’ll look amazing especially with the chaos emerald colors around him.
No way super Sonic could beast yo goku or mui goku wit out going into hyper sonic
Dang bro super sonic is powerful in this
Think after saying, sonic and solo kid, Goku, and all of my comics, I think like everybody saying comics, but I don’t know if they will be true me I’m just saying, GOKU solos all forms
Bro thinks all of Gokus hard work to become strong is still weaker than Sonics lack of training and copying DB
Hyper sonic?
I was about to add it in but I have the reasons in the description
W edit + fax
fax
Goku sjj 2 vs sonic sjj golden 😎
hyper sonic is cannon + theres dark sonic bruh
They’re both not canon
hyper is canon but wasn't contiued he is canon my guy, idk that much abt dark tho but i think he isnt canon since sonic x@@Tantris-Edits
Base Sonic has more durability that base goku because he can breathe in space breathe underwater for a long period of time and endure a dimension corruption for 3 days
That’s more like endurance but ok
@@Tantris-Edits Sonic takes no fall damage goku takes damage when he falls
Why did sonic got so buffed in this edit bro didn’t even turned on dark sonic or hyper sonic😮
Dark Sonic is weaker than Base. Also Hyper is featless
@@MilesResetDark is also featless
@@MoobsYT Yes, and the things he did were things Sonic could already do and even better in base
Goku All Forms Vs Sonic All Forms
Goku Base > Sonic Base
Goku Base < Sonic (Lightning Dash)
Goku SSJ < Sonic (Lightning Dash)
Goku SSJ2 < Sonic (Lightning Dash)
Goku SSJ3 < Sonic (Lightning Dash)
Goku SSJ God > Sonic (Lightning Dash)
Goku SSJ God < Super Sonic
Goku SSJ Blue < Super Sonic
Goku SSJBK x20 < Super Sonic
Goku Ultra Instinct Sign > Super Sonic
Goku Ultra Instinct Sign < Hyper Sonic
Goku Mastered U.I < Hyper Sonic
Goku Perfected U.I < Hyper Sonic
Goku True U.I > Hyper Sonic
Goku True U.I < True Hyper Sonic
Goku Giant T.U.I > True Hyper Sonic
Winner Is: Goku Giant T.U.I Can Defeat True Hyper Sonic.
Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801Solaris cab destroy realms and can destroy the Concept of space-time And is beyond dimensions
@@RadioDemon-z9k read the comment beyond tiering
@@baconhair1801 this comment makes no sense
@@RadioDemon-z9k are you stupid? All I’m saying is just read the comment and it’s beyond tiering is what is in the comment because you’re an idiot
Uhhhhh Where is hyper sonic-
Explained in desc
@@Tantris-Edits hyper sonic is canon wym (Sonic 3 & Knuckles)
@@spearthegodhedgehog1480 But Modern Hyper Sonic doesn’t exist
@@spearthegodhedgehog1480 Thats Classic Sonic.
@@Tantris-Edits and you’re right he’s featless
This guy thinks supersonic can be true ultra instinct Goku that’s cap☠️💀☠️☠️☠️💀
My guy, super sonic has infinite strength, speed, is invincible and has even beat beings that wipe out his whole universe. But I’ll give you this, TUI Goku beats Super Sonic.
@@vijayaletchumi9327 Cap that is cap but believe what you want to believe but I made my point already.
@@vijayaletchumi9327 bro just relax. I did nothing to you. It’s just how I feel. And if that’s how you feel that’s fine. I also like Dragon Ball, so I get where you’re coming from. But I just think Sonic can hold Goku off for a really long time.
@@vijayaletchumi9327 I think Goku will win too. Because of his experience and combat skills. But Sonic will give him a tough time because of his speed, stamina, abilities, agility and all that jazz.
sonic vs goku all forms yet doesnt include hyper sonic also sonic wins against goku and im a fan of both of them
It’s not canon bruh
evidence? bcs i have evidence that it is@@Tantris-Edits
Ok, maybe Classic Hyper Sonic is canon but Modern Hyper Sonic isn’t.
classic sonic is just sonic but as a kid bruh and modern sonic is late teen to adult i could bring so many points on why hyper sonic is canon dont even try@@Tantris-Edits
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 *Explain.*
If Archie sonic was canon goku would be dead
if Goku was at ultra instincts sonic. his be claps so hard no one can do anything to stop Goku
@@Data_Editz Archie sonic would send him though 3 billion universes goku is dead
@@SonnyTangiora bro if freiza has destroyed planets bro and Goku bravery fought beerus the god of destruction bro if that is not enough Goku defeated jiren that's more powerful than beerus. sonic does not even stand a chance against beerus.
Archie sonic can destroy galaxies with ease and universes aswell
@@SonnyTangiora so can GOKU
Also, Goku solos every form except kid Goku
I googled and Hyper Sonic is cannon can prove me otherwise
Google can be unreliable sometimes. Also, either way he’s featless. You can say Hyper Sonic is canon if you want to but he doesn’t have any feats above Super Sonic.
@@Tantris-Edits That is because hyper sonic has been in 1 game that's why his feats are not above super Sonic's besides the super emeralds are stronger and Sonic 3 is cannon Knuckles even talks about super Knuckles in Sonic Frontiers super Knuckles is something that happened in Sonic 3
At least add Archie sonic since we going into comics with TUI manga goku
Archie Super Sonic > TUI Goku (Manga) mid dif
Archie Ultra Sonic > TUI Manga Goku No-Low dif
Yeah, I think I’ll remake this next year.
what? even game super sonic can beat tui goku, let alone ultra or hyper.
First of all archie sonic its not needed here and second why there is so much ppl that belives that ultra its a stronger form than a super form?
@@elcejas6120 it’s not… like ultra is way beyond super but it’s weaker then hyper
@@elcejas6120 I think that ultra is stronger because super sonic comes from 7 chaos emeralds and ultra comes from 1 super emerald, and hyper comes from 7 super emeralds.
I think god forms>super sonic
But hyper form or archie > god forms and about mui ui I don't know
How do god forms beat Super Sonic?
@@Tantris-Edits Show Me super sonics feat
God forms feats: super saiyan god 20000 times stronger base form super saiyan blue 100000 to 1000000 times stronger than base form and 20 times kai ken
Base goku minimum country level
Maximum planetary level
Planetary level× 20000,1000000,20000000
In dbz vegetas ssj2 galic gun cuts atmosphere or ssj2 goku in dbz multi planetary level ssj3 goku fights kid buu who destroys a lot of galaxies ssj3 goku minimum solar system or maximum multi galaxy level
About dbs in dbs z fighters became much stronger goku after fight beerus trained in his planet and base goku >>>>> goku ssj2 in buu saga
Super saiyan god 50 times stronger than ssj3 and can easily defeat ssj3
Ssg goku fights with beerus and destroy a lot of planets that time ssg don't fight with true
power
You say super Sonic defeat ssg in low midd diff
Ssb in midd diff
Why ssb 50 stronger than ssg because goku said it is ssgss or ssb= super saiyan for ssgod
Ui in midd high diff ui can beat opponents who play with god forms
Ui form some attacks = kill or defeat god forms
Mui in high mui 1.5 or 2 times stronger than ui😐🗿
@@Neon_202 Super Sonic defeated Solaris who was stated to be extra-dimensional
@@Tantris-Edits Ok
Bro forgot cyber super sonic
I will do a remake next year
El mejor y mas justo versus🤬
bruh you forgot super sonic 2 and hyper sonic
I’ll make a remake next year
@@Tantris-Edits ok
Let's be honest anything past super sonic Goku loses canon form or not so a second video isn't necessary lol
@@racerx6107 You’re right but I’ll include the other forms anyway so Sonic fans don’t get mad about Goku being the final winner.
@@Tantris-Edits fair point
and goku was able to fly at the speed at light and u say sonic faster 💀💀
Sonic is also faster than light bruh
Goku was able to do laps around hell@@Tantris-Edits
@@FingerMan112 Ok, base is debatable but Super Sonic is beyond infinite.
@@Tantris-Edits your dump bro Goku can clap sonic at super Saiyan 2
Proof?
Super cap button: 👇
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your the cap
@@MoobsYT Nah Sonic scales outerversal so get soloed bro
@@JesusFreak-ex7on ???????
Speed at all forms is for goku because goku has a light speed
Base Sonic is beyond light speed and Super Sonic is beyond infinite speed
no way someone said sonic doesn't get speed naaah
Sonic
bro thinks super sonic is better than master ultra instinct goku but super sonic cant, HYPER SONIC CAN
Yo guys I’m the creator of dbz akira Tori Yama
He died
@@Tantris-Edits womp womp
@@erinmurdoch1131 😑
@@erinmurdoch1131 im gonna find u one day....
@@user-eu4oz7jt7m the cartel gonna find you lil bro
Goku's learnt to combine all forms with ultra instinct. Why didn't you show them?
Since when did he do this? 💀
If you were a fan, you' d know. Search for it. He trained with the angels (Grand priest and whis)
I am a fan, and I searched it but couldn’t find anything, but speaking canonically goku never did that.
@@bolanlelawal861goku did not train with the grand priest
Oh sh*t ,did I forget to tell you to put explanation at the back?
dude ssjg beats ssj sonic dude
How?
@@Tantris-Editsssg can trap him in his ki for 50 seconds and sonic is back to base in 50 secs
@@WITHERSTORM296 How would he do that though? In that case, can’t he just use it against Beerus or the angels?
no way sonic has more abilities than kid goku
Quality>Quantity
Sonic famboy
And you aren’t a Goku fanboy?
@@Tantris-EditsNah I did watch all of the Dragon Ball series but I’m a
Goku Black famboy
@@SolarShow81 🗿🗿🗿
Te falto el hiper sonic y el dark sonic (super e hiper)
game super sonic negs the verse game sonic is outer
-Power of Stars allows for the existence of parallel dimensions, it could also create eggman land that transcends dimensions (in context of universes)
-Tails confirms that there are infinite parallel dimensions,he said that time is dimension with infinite possibilites
-The World of Arabian Nights is a world made up the stories of the Arabian Nights,which are made of 1001 pages. Apart from that, theres also Night Palace that is Erazors Djinn stronghold,its infinite space with astral plane. Arabian Nights are stated to be worlds of endless adventures.(Im not sure how to treat this but i added if for possible upscale/highball)
-Maginaryworld is a dimension put together by Perfect Precious Stone that contains dreams such as desires,wishes,ambitions etc. of all people from different dimensions,so we should have infinite number of dreams (Worlds). Dreams worlds within Maginaryworld are consistently shown to contain starry skies and nebulae as well as other large celestial bodies. Since all dreams are shown to possess them, it is safe to say that they're the same size. Another argument for universe sized dreams is fact that a lot of character have desires that mention whole universe or even reality like eggman,black doom,The End etc. But then it gets a little complicated, Void shatters Perfect Precioustone, into precioustones that also get shattered.
Precious Stone is form of all people dream.
4th dimension is one of the dimensions that appears in the game, couple times described as fourth dimensional space. Its a dream world of Illumina that also contains dreams.
Assuming all of it, Maginaryworld should be 5d to potentially 6d realm.
-White Space is lifeless void that exists between dimensions and is infinite in size while being able to contain universes, for example Crisis City. Eggman states that theres no time in White Space.
AP
-Infinite creates pocket dimension called Null Space that is infinite in size and is closed off from every dimension. Universal+
-Erazor Djinn absorbed half of Arabian nights.At his full power (As Alf Layla wa-Layla), he is capable of recreating it on his image, meaning he can control all of it. At the end of the game, Erazor restored half of power from arabian nights dimension while weakened after fight with Sonic. Uni+ to Low multi
-Egg Salamander was created to destroy Sonic's And Blaze's (Sol Dimension) universes that were stated to be parallel to each other and can tank its own attacks. Low multi
-Time Eater could erase spacetime and affected all of it, it also creates white space. High Multi+
-Sonic can affect White Space by running he is bringing back space,color and life. Multi+ to High Multi+
-Void is capable of shattering Precioustone.As many times stated, Void was going to destroy Maginaryworld. High Multi+ to Low Complex Multi
-Solaris is above all dimensions,that also includes Maginaryworld. Its stated to be above spacetime as well as it can control it and erase it, even more proof for that. After annihilating all of spacetime,Solaris was going to destroy everything else. Atleast Low Complex Multi
The End is the strongest among everyone i mentioned above,stated by itself (The End saw Sonic memories and his past enemies and said that they were finite compared to The End which is infinite). It was going to tear down walls between dimensions and consume all. Ian Flynn also confirms The End is the strongest. He also has op hax that ill mention later
Sonic at full power of cyber corruption one taps The End. Both Low Complex Multi to high balled Complex Multi
Speed
-Reaching SOL for Sonic is nothing
-Sonic team escaped black holes gravitional pull
-Classic Sonic time travels in CD by going full speed, according to manual he goes beyond boundaries of time itself
-Sonic escapes Null Space with his pure speed
-Sonic can casually move in timeless White Space
-Super Sonic,Classic Super Sonic and Time Eater flew to the end of time for final fight
-Super Sonic,Silver and Shadow can outpace Solaris's lasers, Sonic can attack Solaris before it can defend itself
Hax
-Chaos emeralds
Chaos control allows user to teleport user or object, warp reality, fully control of space and time so time stop,time slow etc that were many times shown in the series so no need for scans.
Durability negation (atleast shadow, but since sonic can do anything that shadow can with emeralds, sonic probably has this too)
Wish power/Resurrection- Silver says this about emeralds. Elise used chaos emeralds to bring back Sonic to life (Im not showing that cutscene💀)
Possible Life Manipulation as they are source of vitality for all living things
Invulnerability
-Information Manipulation Type 2 for chaos emeralds for creating Cyber Space, so also Sonic, Silver and Shadow in super forms. Everything is explained well in linked post
-Dream manipulation for high tiers for threatening Maginarywolrd that is made of dreams, especially Time Eater,Solar and The End as they have ap/hax that can affect all of reality. Sonic for defeating them should get resistance to it.
-Psychokinsesis (Strongest users are Infinite,Silver and Dark Gaia)
-Infinite has gravity manipulation
The End's hax:
-Perception Manipulation - its embodiment of death and its form changing depending on what someone perceives death to be like (according to Kishimoto's words)
-Law and Fate manipulation - all comes from this
-Void Manipulation - it is all consuming void that is like i said before, embodiment of death
-Dream Manipulation- mentioned before, it all consuming void that was going to consume all, also sonic says that he needs to save everyone from everywhere, so ofc maginarywolrd was also in danger
-Biological Manipulation -affected Ancients DNA to change into chao's
-Dura negation - its attack was strong enough to get sonic out of his super form
-Resistant to Information manipulation,Dream manipulation as it can tank attacks from Super Sonic, also resistant to same power that negates sonic's super form
Sonic gets: All hax from chaos emeralds.Information Manipulation Type 2,Possibly Acausality Type 4 from this, as his enemy was transcending law and time, and was ruling fate of universe,Possibly Dream manipulation,Void manip as he could affect White Space,Dura neg and resistance to Biological manipulation,Corruption,Information Manip,Law and Fate manip,Time and space manip,
Theres much more hax in the series but i wanted to name the strongest/most useful ones
Anti Feats/Downplays
-Sonic needed help with Solaris- This post enough explains it, but in short, Shadow in Silver were the one who needed help and even tho Sonic doesnt scale fully above it (at the time of 06), he still needed close ap and speed to be even able to fight Solaris
-Sonic cant be faster than FTL because he struggles with robots - this is so stupid im gonna leave this
-Since a lot people have problem with it, this is the most senseful set for main Sonic timeline if anyone had any doubts
I know more Sonic downplays but they are so stupid they are not even worth mentioning and explaining
Conclusion
Games Sonic cosmology is bare minimum 5D via Maginaryworld and White Space with potential to 6D depending on how we interpreter Maginaryworld.
Sonic himself should scale to 6D and 7D with highball (8D with extreme highball,almost wank but i prefer 6d tbh) for scaling above The End and Solaris who are above 5D multiverse/cosmology, with immeasurable speed. In base Sonic should scale from uni+ to low multi with also immeasurable speed.,5D highballed because of Void.
Low tiers like Knuckles,Amy and Tails should be FTL-MFTL+ for being able to catch up with Sonic most of the time with Uni+ cuz they keep up with low tier villians, with highball 5D because along with Sonic they defeated The Void
And yes im a dbz fan
Bruh, that was way too much words 💀
thats how power scaling works but mb@@Tantris-Edits
@@ILoveChicken09who stronger goku or Sonic???
sonic @@Neon_202
@@ILoveChicken09a non biased dbz fan you sir are a legend
There some cap
Where?
This is video is cap
Ultra Instinct Omen Or Mastered Ultra Instinct or true ultra instinct and perfect Ultra Instinct and ultra instinct susanoo Can Defeat Sonic All Forms
How?
Sonic 06 sonic in super is outervesel
Dude there is not such thing is tui that is what the funs call ui and that rip off susanoo that is from naruto sonic has fought giant robots and killed the end witch is a giant moon that made sonic go all out
Also goku is universe Sonic is Outerverse he escape Null Space
Not even close, even Base Games Sonic Can beat he in every single form you can imagine
In Sonic and Secret Rings Sonic got into a corridor with infinite space-time, but he was so fast that he passed through the corridor meaning he have more than infinite speed, that is what we call "Immeasurable Speed", meaning Sonic is so fast that even the concept of infinite can't get with him
And as we study in schools:
Mass and Speed = Strength
Meaning Sonic have Immeasurable Strength, more than infinite, meaning that no matter how resistant a character can be, Sonic can kill him 1 Hit
Still not convinced?
In Sonic Forces, Sonic survived and with his Speed literally broke The Null Space just by running in it and escaped the Null Space, and Null Space is a Mathematical Concept, a Concept can't be destroyed and nothing can survive in one, but Sonic Destroyed and escaped Null Space in Sonic Forces, WITH HIS OWN SPEED
And all those feats he made in base form, and was confirmed that Chaos Emeralds have unlimited power, meaning that Super Sonic can have all the abilities that I said before but multiplied infinite times
Sonic>>>>>Goku
and no way bro said blue is weaker than super sonic LIKE BRO GOKU WAS FIGHTING GODS
Super Sonic defeated Solaris who was more powerful than the ones Goku fought
@@Tantris-Editsno he wasn’t
@@Tantris-Edits No because the DB Universes are way bigger then the Sonic's . Tho goku still managed to destroy galaxies that contains immesurable numbers of stars. +it was only with a clash of his fist