My biggest mistake was spending a ton of money on plugins, only to realize that having the minimalism of your stock plugins and DAW sounded just as fine. And that's the setup that I use now.
Hey Joe, just to drive home the point of learning and moving on, when we recorded our first LP way back in the 70s when the project was done, mixed mastered ready to go to pressing, the producer told me one thing NOT to do. He said don't go home and pick out all the things you wish you would have done better, no one else is going to hear them, and doing that will rob you of the joy that you have from the project. Great advice, when we went back to do our second LP, same producer, same studio, same everything, it was better because we did learn from the first one and made sure that those things we didn't "like" on the first one we didn't do on the second. Great advice Joe
Once you get past the point of being able to change stuff, I strongly advise going as long as possible without listening to it again. (Of course, publicity/touring responsibilities might intrude, but do the best you can.) Otherwise, yeah-you’ll only hear the mistakes and the totality won’t hit you at all. (This applies to any creative process, if you ask me.)
The biggest mistake I made repeatedly was trying to fix bad takes rather than rerecording and getting it right at the source. Once I started recording more seasoned artists I noticed how little work I had to do to make them sound good. Recording is a tedious, repetitive process. It can be a headache, but getting great takes for every single line will make ALL the difference.
When I started recording music I got this awesome condenser mic, recorded some vocals only to realize that my voice sounded dull and muddy. I „fixed“ the problem with an eq but wasn‘t happy at all. Long story short: At some point I took a closer look at the mic (Rode NT1a) and realized a dot on one side. And yes, it turned out I literally sang into the wrong side… But it was too late, I had put the track out on TH-cam and was too embarrassed to remove it and admit my mistake. 😅
Interesting. I'm digitizing old master tapes from the late 80s and those are riddled with lots of mistakes. It does make me happy that my more recent projects are much better. Comparing myself to....myself. 😀
I sort of agree about the mistakes part. you’re bound to make mistakes whether it’s because you’re using a new piece of equipment, or you’re taking a different approach to recording but I feel like you could still be pushing yourself hard and not make mistakes especially if you’ve been doing this a long time.
The moral of the story no one else will ever hear all those little things like you will. It's obviously good to strive for better but sometimes it's good enough. As long as the performance is there and the sound is at a certain level at least
Joe said "release your music", so... blame Joe! - Also, remember to embrace some "mistakes", like a squeaky kick pedal. I think you should have ran with the super compressed snare, tweaked it, and made it a thing in the song.
I've come to the conclusion that there will never ever be a time where I finish a project and then don't hear anything I wish I'd done differently once the artist has released it. Over time I've learned not to dwell on those things, otherwise I'd never want to listen to the songs again. It's good to remember the lessons that the mistakes taught you, just don't dwell on the mistakes.
Biggest mistake I'm still occasionally guilty of is spending too much time on the sound of any individual instrument without regard for the rest of the instruments and mix. Like getting a big, glorious rhythm guitar sound that sounds rich and full when isolated, but then simultaneously disappears and ruins the mix in context.
Hey Joe, You're mistakes/oversights didn't bother me, and I've learned that the general public is typically a lot less fussy than I am! I'm happy with my released recordings and believe I might even have added one or two new friends or family members as my fan club over the past decade or so. Ha ha! Still, glad to know there are pros like you out there devoted to raising the audio/recording standards. Thanks for sharing! :-)
Thanks Joe for your experience 😊 Tell us please if you can. When the sidechain for the instruments will appear in the Studio One. We need it, for example, in Vocoder vst synth plugin from Arturia 🥹
Mistake 1 : not eliminate ringing noises on e-guitar,for example tape the strings on the head and at the end of a fixed bridge,or muting the springs on a Floyd rose. Number 2 : not considering the possibility that some chords sound slightly off because of too hard hitting or just because no guitar is 100% in perfect intonation, and record them separately by tuning the guitar specifically while holding that chord
@@lar57jsy if that's what you re going for yeah sure ,but in some genres where everything has to be tight this is not "professional sounding" if you play a power chord and your root or fifth is off and that's on both or all 4 channels instead of a wall of sound you will have a wall of off sounding guitars XD
Thanks Joe great video yeah I've made plenty of mistakes with my game staging and what you were saying about comparing to yesterday's music of what you recorded I see improvements thank you for all you do
Great info, as always. Much appreciated. Now, that 4th EP? I've got you- just make a Greatest Hits from the other three! No, wait, even better- outtakes and alternate versions. BOOM! (No need to thank me; just glad to help out.)
I helped a friend with a couple of demo songs for a songwriting contest. His songs and voice, a fiddle player, and me (acoustic guitar, bass & dobro). Twice (yes even after I figured it out the first time) I left the monitors on while I was recording fills and the solo with the dobro. When I heard it the first time my heart sank, knowing I was going to have to re-record. I couldn't believe I was so sloppy I did it again. And had to re-record again. It was just too noticeable to ignore. Sigh.
Sometimes I can't even hear the mistakes you hear, but when you played those electric guitars I couldn't keep the cringe off my face. That was truly nasty. Another great video, Joe. I always learn from you.
I don't know if this is a "mistake" except that it was a mistake that I didn't analyze the tracks before the keyboardist left and now I need him to come back and re-track... I'm still not sure what happened and maybe you have an idea. He recorded 2 parts - a Rhodes and an Organ - both parts had 2 tracks (RT, LT). We were tracking drums, bass and keys at the same time, so when he did the take with his Rhodes first, we listened back and things seemed fine. So then we went back and had him play his organ parts to what they just recorded. That all seemed fine. But when I panned the Rhodes channel, something sounded really, really weird. I discovered that we had only actually captured the RT and not the LT. So, back in he goes and we fixed the issue, he played again, now we have both RT and LT. BUT - like a day afterwards when I started mixing the song for the guitarist to track to, I noticed I was hearing the click. I had run a scratch vocal and you could hear the click in in my scratch vocal because I was literally sitting in front of my computer and speakers when I sang it. No biggie, but when I muted the scratch track, I could still hear this click. What the heck? I started soloing each track and found that the Rhodes tracks (RT & LT) have a click embedded into them (and it turns out the organ tracks do, too). Literally baked into the tracks! I cannot figure out for the life of me how the click from my DAW got into these tracks. He didn't have a click running on his keyboard. Someone suggested maybe a mic had been hot and recorded the click coming out of my headphones or something, but how would it get into his actual keyboard track. He was plugged into the snake with 2 xlr cables, and the snake runs to my rack in my control room (I use the Studio Live 24R, so no actual board). I would think if I accidentally had a mic plugged into one of his keyboard tracks, that I would still end up with the issue of, keys on LT and then weird studio noises in the RT. How could I capture 2 different things into the same channel?
Hi joe, loving the content you're producing at the moment, following on from the piano section of this video, how would you personally go about recording and mixing midi piano compared to an acoustic piano?
I'm currently learning engineering and producing my own songs. My question is, how do i know when to stop, as in, when the song is done and to stop fiddling and picking at it because i feel like i could jjst keep doing that forever. Do i just trust my ears at a certain point and call it, or should i get the opinion of others?
When recording multiple parts, it could be helpful to see a synchronized video to help cue sections where there are pauses or gradual tempo changes. Is there a way to capture a video stream while tracking in S1 or other daw?
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My biggest mistake was spending a ton of money on plugins, only to realize that having the minimalism of your stock plugins and DAW sounded just as fine. And that's the setup that I use now.
Hey Joe, just to drive home the point of learning and moving on, when we recorded our first LP way back in the 70s when the project was done, mixed mastered ready to go to pressing, the producer told me one thing NOT to do. He said don't go home and pick out all the things you wish you would have done better, no one else is going to hear them, and doing that will rob you of the joy that you have from the project. Great advice, when we went back to do our second LP, same producer, same studio, same everything, it was better because we did learn from the first one and made sure that those things we didn't "like" on the first one we didn't do on the second. Great advice Joe
Once you get past the point of being able to change stuff, I strongly advise going as long as possible without listening to it again. (Of course, publicity/touring responsibilities might intrude, but do the best you can.) Otherwise, yeah-you’ll only hear the mistakes and the totality won’t hit you at all. (This applies to any creative process, if you ask me.)
Never being satisfied is ok. Perfection is a mistake if it robs emotion and spontaneity. Be happy. Be creative. And let it go!
The biggest mistake I made repeatedly was trying to fix bad takes rather than rerecording and getting it right at the source. Once I started recording more seasoned artists I noticed how little work I had to do to make them sound good. Recording is a tedious, repetitive process. It can be a headache, but getting great takes for every single line will make ALL the difference.
I have one goal in mind when making music
To make each recording and mix better than the last
To just keep improving
When I started recording music I got this awesome condenser mic, recorded some vocals only to realize that my voice sounded dull and muddy. I „fixed“ the problem with an eq but wasn‘t happy at all. Long story short: At some point I took a closer look at the mic (Rode NT1a) and realized a dot on one side. And yes, it turned out I literally sang into the wrong side… But it was too late, I had put the track out on TH-cam and was too embarrassed to remove it and admit my mistake. 😅
Interesting. I'm digitizing old master tapes from the late 80s and those are riddled with lots of mistakes. It does make me happy that my more recent projects are much better. Comparing myself to....myself. 😀
WOW Joe Great Reflection of what "Was" Vs. what "IS". MUCH Appreciated You are the Joe.
I sort of agree about the mistakes part. you’re bound to make mistakes whether it’s because you’re using a new piece of equipment, or you’re taking a different approach to recording but I feel like you could still be pushing yourself hard and not make mistakes especially if you’ve been doing this a long time.
The moral of the story no one else will ever hear all those little things like you will. It's obviously good to strive for better but sometimes it's good enough. As long as the performance is there and the sound is at a certain level at least
Joe said "release your music", so... blame Joe!
- Also, remember to embrace some "mistakes", like a squeaky kick pedal.
I think you should have ran with the super compressed snare, tweaked it, and made it a thing in the song.
I did.
I've come to the conclusion that there will never ever be a time where I finish a project and then don't hear anything I wish I'd done differently once the artist has released it. Over time I've learned not to dwell on those things, otherwise I'd never want to listen to the songs again. It's good to remember the lessons that the mistakes taught you, just don't dwell on the mistakes.
Biggest mistake I'm still occasionally guilty of is spending too much time on the sound of any individual instrument without regard for the rest of the instruments and mix. Like getting a big, glorious rhythm guitar sound that sounds rich and full when isolated, but then simultaneously disappears and ruins the mix in context.
Hey Joe, You're mistakes/oversights didn't bother me, and I've learned that the general public is typically a lot less fussy than I am! I'm happy with my released recordings and believe I might even have added one or two new friends or family members as my fan club over the past decade or so. Ha ha! Still, glad to know there are pros like you out there devoted to raising the audio/recording standards. Thanks for sharing! :-)
Thanks Joe for your experience 😊 Tell us please if you can. When the sidechain for the instruments will appear in the Studio One. We need it, for example, in Vocoder vst synth plugin from Arturia 🥹
JOE, you make great records so, quit spilling the beans hmmm ? Love your music :)
Joe will you do a video on Tempo changes within the song adjusting the click
Mistake 1 : not eliminate ringing noises on e-guitar,for example tape the strings on the head and at the end of a fixed bridge,or muting the springs on a Floyd rose.
Number 2 : not considering the possibility that some chords sound slightly off because of too hard hitting or just because no guitar is 100% in perfect intonation, and record them separately by tuning the guitar specifically while holding that chord
Sometimes, two "slightly off" unison guitar notes can sound better than a sterile perfect unison :-)
@@lar57jsy if that's what you re going for yeah sure ,but in some genres where everything has to be tight this is not "professional sounding" if you play a power chord and your root or fifth is off and that's on both or all 4 channels instead of a wall of sound you will have a wall of off sounding guitars XD
Thanks Joe great video yeah I've made plenty of mistakes with my game staging and what you were saying about comparing to yesterday's music of what you recorded I see improvements thank you for all you do
Great info, as always. Much appreciated. Now, that 4th EP? I've got you- just make a Greatest Hits from the other three! No, wait, even better- outtakes and alternate versions. BOOM! (No need to thank me; just glad to help out.)
I helped a friend with a couple of demo songs for a songwriting contest. His songs and voice, a fiddle player, and me (acoustic guitar, bass & dobro). Twice (yes even after I figured it out the first time) I left the monitors on while I was recording fills and the solo with the dobro. When I heard it the first time my heart sank, knowing I was going to have to re-record. I couldn't believe I was so sloppy I did it again. And had to re-record again. It was just too noticeable to ignore. Sigh.
You should definitely release a 4 of 4 and call it " Better Late Than Never". 😂
Sometimes I can't even hear the mistakes you hear, but when you played those electric guitars I couldn't keep the cringe off my face. That was truly nasty. Another great video, Joe. I always learn from you.
I love the electric guitar mistake. Untamed crazy cool works sometimes hahaa
I don't know if this is a "mistake" except that it was a mistake that I didn't analyze the tracks before the keyboardist left and now I need him to come back and re-track... I'm still not sure what happened and maybe you have an idea. He recorded 2 parts - a Rhodes and an Organ - both parts had 2 tracks (RT, LT). We were tracking drums, bass and keys at the same time, so when he did the take with his Rhodes first, we listened back and things seemed fine. So then we went back and had him play his organ parts to what they just recorded. That all seemed fine. But when I panned the Rhodes channel, something sounded really, really weird. I discovered that we had only actually captured the RT and not the LT. So, back in he goes and we fixed the issue, he played again, now we have both RT and LT. BUT - like a day afterwards when I started mixing the song for the guitarist to track to, I noticed I was hearing the click. I had run a scratch vocal and you could hear the click in in my scratch vocal because I was literally sitting in front of my computer and speakers when I sang it. No biggie, but when I muted the scratch track, I could still hear this click. What the heck? I started soloing each track and found that the Rhodes tracks (RT & LT) have a click embedded into them (and it turns out the organ tracks do, too). Literally baked into the tracks! I cannot figure out for the life of me how the click from my DAW got into these tracks. He didn't have a click running on his keyboard. Someone suggested maybe a mic had been hot and recorded the click coming out of my headphones or something, but how would it get into his actual keyboard track. He was plugged into the snake with 2 xlr cables, and the snake runs to my rack in my control room (I use the Studio Live 24R, so no actual board). I would think if I accidentally had a mic plugged into one of his keyboard tracks, that I would still end up with the issue of, keys on LT and then weird studio noises in the RT. How could I capture 2 different things into the same channel?
Hi joe, loving the content you're producing at the moment, following on from the piano section of this video, how would you personally go about recording and mixing midi piano compared to an acoustic piano?
With the missing snare could you have used what was there as a trigger for a snare sample?
Yep. Tried it, didn't like it.
I'm currently learning engineering and producing my own songs. My question is, how do i know when to stop, as in, when the song is done and to stop fiddling and picking at it because i feel like i could jjst keep doing that forever. Do i just trust my ears at a certain point and call it, or should i get the opinion of others?
Could you have used the missing snare pops as a trigger for a sample to get the snare drum back?
When recording multiple parts, it could be helpful to see a synchronized video to help cue sections where there are pauses or gradual tempo changes. Is there a way to capture a video stream while tracking in S1 or other daw?
Hey Joe, I got a good question. Can I link my auxes from studiolive to my auxes in studio one.
Best video in a while - thx!
So it would be kind of cool if you explained what went wrong with say the snare drum why did it come out like that
I did explain it?
Do you ever use the "normalize" audio function on your tracks in S1?
Sometimes not always.
Yeah Dude, why did you put the mics too close to the guitar? Then you are in a very deep sh...Joe man! Just kidding, you are an awesome human being.
the worst mistake you can make in a studio is saying 'More cowbell" !!
What’s your secret brawl stars account
Yeah