THIS is Why You Can't Be Afraid to Redevelop! | MC #9

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  • @mikecrain2076
    @mikecrain2076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +652

    Hereby starting a petition to bring back railroad street street. A gem of a name and feels exactly like a mistake that would be made somewhere back in the day that was too expensive to fix after the utility worker sent to mark the street as railroad Street embibed a bit too much at lunch back in like 1937 or whatever

    • @Jimidmih
      @Jimidmih 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      It's also somehow an incredibly charming name. Another good option could be Railroad Road Road, too.

    • @JanTuts
      @JanTuts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      ​@@Jimidmih🎵 _Railroad Road Road your boat, gently down the Railroad Street Street!_ 🎶

    • @mightydestroyer1020
      @mightydestroyer1020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree

    • @louisbrewer1260
      @louisbrewer1260 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      yes we need Railroad Street Street! Here in my town we have a couple of uniquely named streets..... "Funny Little Street" is my favorite

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

      The people have spoken!

  • @mattstahl4508
    @mattstahl4508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    49:05 Gas Stations Tip! So you dont have to wait until the building spawns.
    Grid sizes are 4x6, 4x5, 4x4, 3x3, 3x2, 2x2. When construction starts, at least on the larger grids, look for 2 car entrances, those will be gas stations. Delete construction until you get 2 entrances.
    Has been super successful for me!

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      I totally didn't just screen grab this comment and print it off... and I bet it isn't setting next to me keyboard. Nice work, Matt!!!

    • @mattstahl4508
      @mattstahl4508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      ​@@CityPlannerPlays Long time viewer, first time commenter on youtube, so cheers!
      Correcting 1 mistake in original comment, 2x3 is actually 3x2 (width, depth).
      Footprints credit to "Building & Zoning Footprint Sizes" Steam Guide by "Venexis". I tried to reply a couple times, no links allowed I think :) I happened to notice the 2 vehicle entrances thing!

  • @jarlbreadmaker
    @jarlbreadmaker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    I am once again asking the tiny lake by the first farms be called Lake Inferior.

  • @showertiles
    @showertiles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +475

    Considering the ongoing issues with fires in Verde Beach, and the recent fire damage in Magnolia County, there may be some merit to fining Clearwater Southern on their poor fire prevention practices. The county might be able to put that money to good use preventing future fires.

    • @QemeH
      @QemeH 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      I heard they are very lackluster in clearing vegetation off the embankment of their tracks, which together with old rolling stock on overweight trains causes a lot of small brush fires in the dry season, when sparks from the brakes ignite the uncleaned fuel from the tracks through the woods. Imposing fines for poor fire prevention will both incentivise an upgrade to newer and cleaner rolling stock as well as fill the coffers of the county to build a resilient fire departement including helicopters and WUI specialists.

    • @jaevric
      @jaevric 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It also seems like a lot of corporate properties in Copper Valley failed to maintain their fire clearances in the wildland-urban interface, which allowed a small fire to spread throughout the whole industrial park. Given the number of structures lost, property damage alone likely exceeds $1 billion, with suppression and SAR costs likely being in the tens of millions of dollars. Lost production from all those offices and factories would absolutely be in the hundreds of millions range, possibly another $1 billion depending on how long those facilities were down for.
      Short version is, insurance companies operating in the area probably took a loss on Q2 from all the fire insurance claims, national media outlets probably ran footage of the fire and aftermath for an entire week, and the local community downwind definitely got a hell of a scare when the sun turned dim red and bathed the place in sickly orange light, all while it hurt a little to breathe outside air.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I think you might be onto something there!

    • @jopenope1016
      @jopenope1016 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even though brand new campfire parks were just added this episode 😂

  • @Runenschuppe
    @Runenschuppe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    As a European, I find it both fascinating and irritating how many parking lots you build. Those somehow hurt my sensibilities. Maybe because I consider them both ugly AND a waste of space. My first instinct is to build public transport and consolidate several parking lots into fewer locations or even parking decks. It's interesting how deeply ingrained the consideration of space seems to be.

    • @Sean_Lightning_OBrien
      @Sean_Lightning_OBrien 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      I was thinking the exact same thing and I'm from New Zealand, the only places that have huge parking lots are supermarkets and they are usually shared in town/city hubs, not taking up half of the office space like in his office center lol

    • @danp1871
      @danp1871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I'm not a European, but feel the same way. I just cringe with how many surface level parking lots are going in. I'm glad in my city they are getting rid of almost all of them in the downtown core and putting the space to good use (I think only 1 is left). Just need that to spread outwards more as transit continues to improve.

    • @chiefbigsad7995
      @chiefbigsad7995 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ah yes the classic euro VS US debate topic. i by no means intend on a heated argument but i always enjoy the comparisons.
      Yes, the USA generally has a shit ton of parking lots, because there are shit tons of cars. and this among many cultural and societal norms being a factor, breaks down to mostly being, the USA is simple too big for public transit to work except in dense cities. and even at that alot of our cities are so damn big that public transport can only get you to certain places.
      i personally will die on the mountain that the US NEEDS a quality high speed rail system for public transport. that being said there is ZERO way to get around the fact that private transport is a necessity that is never going away.

    • @WiglyWorm
      @WiglyWorm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@chiefbigsad7995 Definitely. America is simply so large, we don't have to worry about space. Even with all the sprawl we currently have, we're in no danger of running out of space. It's infuriating as a society TBH because all our green space is constantly being encroached on.

    • @MiraBene
      @MiraBene 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Oh my, thanks for these comments, I felt weird being so cringed at the view of sooo many parking lots everywhere every time. It really feels alien 😅 (French 🥖 here). Especially given the relative small size of the offices.
      For above US cities comments, I'm not sure the city size is really a good reason for the lack of mass transit. I mean first, having parking all over the place does make the city wider by a lot (I think it's 50% of space for parking?) so it's a vicious circle. Also having mixed zoning with shops/offices in the periphery could alleviate some "suburbiadowntown" daily transits.
      If you look at big EU cities, most of them actually grew to include peripheral small towns/villages that themselves developed into their own local centrality. This way you only have a fraction of people living there that need to go downtown for shopping/partying etc.

  • @blkmamba
    @blkmamba 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Your ability to tell a story for your city as well integrate your city planning expertise into your builds is what makes your channel head and shoulders above the rest. I enjoy following along as your cities grow. I was very sad to see VB come to an end, but as I watch each each MC episode, I feel more and more invested in this build.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Thank you so much! My hope is to make this the best build I've had so far... we'll see how it goes!!

  • @Pseudophonist
    @Pseudophonist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    I worked in a utility for 12 years. Large industrial projects in 'rural' areas, or in congested areas often require new transformer substations. Glad to see you put one in. It didn't make too much sense to me to have so many customers all connected to one transformer station!

    • @MrCzar251
      @MrCzar251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would be an interesting game mechanic to limit how many buildings can be connected to any given substation

    • @praetorfenix69
      @praetorfenix69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrCzar251 There sort of is a limit, in that a substation can only serve 80MW of power. I don't know how realistic that number is though

    • @RevAnakin
      @RevAnakin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly, as a power engineer myself, there would be a transmission substation for at the very least the industrial zone, the mining / manufacturing zone, 2-3 for residential (would be distribution subs), and the high power draws (like the train facility).

    • @llessursamoht
      @llessursamoht 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed the extra stations generally make sense especially for reliability of critical infrastructure customers. That said substations could get pretty expensive and given the station at the quarry one could argue whether a new station would make sense. So aside from capacity expansion a good thought process would be, how important is this customer (eg. Hospital, airport, etc) that a dedicated substation could make financial sense.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Thank you! Great info and I'll include more of them in the build!

  • @ankitchauhancr7
    @ankitchauhancr7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    "CPP tries to get a gas station spawned in but fails miserably" is my favourite recurring part of this series! 😂

    • @FoodBaby69
      @FoodBaby69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seriously

    • @SP_oo_K
      @SP_oo_K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And normally when i play I get like 8 different fas stations in 10 commercial plots each time. Even of i have different lot sizes. 😅

    • @DZag6149
      @DZag6149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Someone should make an gas station asset for him 😂😂

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I will never spawn a gas station, lol!

    • @DZag6149
      @DZag6149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@CityPlannerPlays The zoning size for the gas station is 3x5 look at 43:26

  • @NosirrathOfficial
    @NosirrathOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    There's sooo much focus on parking and gas stations in this build. I'd love to see more investment into public transit. Obviously some cycling would be ideal but until that's added a couple of bus routes between the residential, industrial, and university districts would be great

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ...I may be overcorrecting very, very soon!

    • @georgebouvier8168
      @georgebouvier8168 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree with you. For a town of 10K people there are too many car parks !... a good ol' dystopic north-american vision where car is king... not my favourite episode.

    • @omeletteman3451
      @omeletteman3451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@georgebouvier8168 CS population is all out of whack . This city is considered a “big city” when it has a third of the population of the medium sized town I live in

  • @nathanharris3371
    @nathanharris3371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    I believe the reason why you’re seeing a little bit of street parking is because you didn’t make the parking lots free next to all the office and industrial

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Good point! I forgot to reduce the cost!

  • @VaingloriousGaming
    @VaingloriousGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    I get over doing it with parking in remote areas but with cities ditching off-street parking minimums IRL (I think Austin was one of the more recent ones), maybe Magnolia County could become a leader in this movement. Perhaps a central bus terminal with a decent kiss-and-drop zone along with a lot of parking to tie in with key express bus service routes to the various remote areas would be a good add. Not sure how a certain new resident and his fledgling taxi company would feel about it though...
    Edit to add: the pollution will eventually fade. I redeveloped an industrial and landfill area; it took about four hours (real time, not game time) for it to completely dissipate. It was actually kinda cool watching it with the pollution filter, and seeing how the game handles that.

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I would love to see Superior establish transit as a right so every established community must have at least a bus stop or train station! It would be cool to see how parking lot Phil pivots towards a transit focused build :) 😂 i also think a state that is brand new and prides it self on nature would want to build their state differently than the rest of the car centric continent.

    • @clarkeeclark
      @clarkeeclark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like the thought of the city adopting this mindset after the game gets bikes. There could be a whole complete streets initiative that it is tied to.

  • @christoffereilskov5006
    @christoffereilskov5006 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    So... Much... Parking! Both the new industrial area and the new office area feel like way too much. Love the series keep it up!

  • @thadizzie1
    @thadizzie1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Great build. You should add offices by the trainyard so it be like the corporate offices. HD offices would be awesome but the city is not there yet

    • @jensbumsel7449
      @jensbumsel7449 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      a single industry plant and a few storage places would also fit well

    • @WimsicleStranger
      @WimsicleStranger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jensbumsel7449 Oh yeah, especially some of the petroleum storage industrial plots. Too bad there's no tools that allow us to specify exactly what kind of industrial buildings we want.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's a GREAT idea! Will get that added!

  • @VonnPTroutenheimer
    @VonnPTroutenheimer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    It's also odd that tornadoes spawn on clear sunny days. No storm associated with it... Just a random tornado. Edit: also, you planted some bushes blocking the mansion driveway.

    • @Wiskaksk2
      @Wiskaksk2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean that sometimes happens in the Midwest

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those happen, however they aren't true tornadoes (True tornadoes only occur with supercells. Water spouts, dust devils, fire tornadoes etc. are not technically true tornadoes). It would be some other form of a whirlwind.

  • @martin3009
    @martin3009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Parks should really allow pedestrian paths to fulfill the "need" of the building.
    In places that aren't dense citiy centres, parks and playgrounds are usually not accessible by car.

    • @gwohlers
      @gwohlers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sure it'll come eventually, but I'd really love to see different types of zonable pedestrian roadways.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Completely agree with you there. They are amenities in and of themselves.

  • @tarablack3309
    @tarablack3309 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +886

    Great build. However, I think the town should seriously consider a fire helicopter depot as part of their climate change adaptation strategy

    • @astrognash.
      @astrognash. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      Agreed, that would also be a GREAT opportunity to talk about climate resilience and what cities are doing generally

    • @kireitonsi
      @kireitonsi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Agreed. I find those strategies and plans to be really interesting and it would fit Magnolia County so well

    • @kireitonsi
      @kireitonsi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@astrognash.Seconded!

    • @Hubris030
      @Hubris030 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Climate change adaption...
      *Builds 50 parking lots*

    • @aaronsmith6022
      @aaronsmith6022 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Hubris030 😂😂

  • @17Se7enteen
    @17Se7enteen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Railroad Street Street needs to be saved. It’s the best name ever and it’s uniqueness provides tourism to the city

  • @JonatanGronoset
    @JonatanGronoset 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +240

    CPP: "But one day, a train carrying fuel between Nicolet Bay and Duluth derails-"
    Norfolk Southern: "I have taught them well..."

    • @vinnie4125
      @vinnie4125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      lmao, too true!

    • @catwithabat7163
      @catwithabat7163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      "NORFOLK SOUTHERN WHATS YOUR FUNCTIONNN?!"

    • @mmorris2830
      @mmorris2830 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't leave CSX and BNSF out of the castigation, dood. They're just as likely to feed their trains dirt sandwiches😂

    • @miketoronto8308
      @miketoronto8308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol!

  • @KentheDeer
    @KentheDeer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My favorite thing about these builds is the stories you weave around them. I love how you create a narrative around why you’re doing what you do when fashioning your city, CPP!

  • @33milesanthony
    @33milesanthony 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    No matter where CPP goes the classic Verde Beach wildfires always follow

    • @barrievable
      @barrievable 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just like watching the early episodes of VB - I love it

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I cannot escape them, haha!

  • @johnp2436
    @johnp2436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm a fan of the 16:00 minute mark. "Truthfully, we don't even have to consider that because we are just fine" says CPP as his district is literally burning to the ground.

  • @fabianbnd8188
    @fabianbnd8188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    16:03 „we are just fine“ said Phil calmly as a big fire appears in the background. Ahhh classic one 😂

  • @RJ-bj8kz
    @RJ-bj8kz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I feel like you could have one parking lot to six office buildings in the office park. Love your work

  • @TedTschopp
    @TedTschopp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I work for one of the largest investor-owned utilities in one of the world's largest economies. A lot of times large industrial, transportation, and other critical pieces of infrastructure would have their own dedicated substations. The even more important ones will have on-site generation as well. What you did with the new train station is exactly the way this would be done.

    • @cludecat7072
      @cludecat7072 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was looking for a comment on that!

  • @PMfromMB
    @PMfromMB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Love Redevelopment! And refreshing to see one small accident convince a rail company to re-develop unsafe infrastructure. Too often these issues are ignored for far too long and you end up with situations like the Lac Mégantic disaster. Kudos to Clearwater Southern! [Anecdotes on redevelopment where I live below]:
    I live in Winnipeg, Canada, and the relocation/re-development of the 200-Acre CPKC railyard in the middle of my city has been a hot topic for a long time. It's a huge scar on the city that separates our poorer north end from downtown. And we've also had quite a few close calls with petrol train derailments. Late last year the 111-year-old bridge that is one of the few links across the yards was permanently closed after failing an engineering assessment, so this has re-invigorated demands for railyard redevelopment. Certainly it would be a hugely expensive project and involve a lot of environmental remediation, but given that my city is currently trying to make a $1.5B road widening happen, I don't think it's all that impossible that the railyard could be re-developed if we set our priorities right.
    One very encouraging re-development project that just started here is the Naawi-Oodena project, which is a new mixed-use walkable redevelopment replacing a 165-acre former army barracks, also involving a large environmental remediation due to Asbestos. It's being developed jointly by the Canadian Gov and the Treaty-One Nations (a collective of local Indigenous groups entitled to the land). For those of you interested in real world planning, they have a really cool master plan published that really inspires me for how we can incorporate indigenous cultural practices in urban planning and move closer to reconciliation after years of exploiting stolen lands. It gives me hope that the Railyards and many other urban mistakes in my city can become growth opportunities to make my city beautiful and more equitable.

  • @Varatho
    @Varatho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ground pollution does disappear, but it takes an extremely long time in my experience. Also, any ground pollution seemingly permanently removes fertile ground, which kind of sucks on vanilla maps because it's so sparse to begin with.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have a sneaking suspicion some sort of remediation building will be coming in the future OR that the mechanic will be rebalanced. I get the realism aspect right now, but man oh man is it frustrating to not know that anything is actually happening.
      I had no idea that the pollution permanently removes fertile ground. That is a REALLY good thing to know.

  • @Flashbang1586
    @Flashbang1586 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have to say the fire effects in Cities 2 are pretty disappointing. The affected areas don't really look burned at all. In Cities 1 the fire would leave a scar across the land and you could really feel the devastation it caused. Hopefully this gets updated in the future.

  • @blackrose30333
    @blackrose30333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    🔥 I think a park honoring the fireman who helped this day in Magnolia County's history is a good idea too. Fireman's Park 🌳

  • @fahimhaque02
    @fahimhaque02 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    dude this is too much parking. I'm getting an aneurysm just looking at it

  • @AlexeySkripnik
    @AlexeySkripnik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Hey, I'm not from the US, and I've gotta say, the parking lots in your builds really stand out to me. They often seem empty. Is there a reason you add so many? Just curious - they give off a kinda lonely vibe.

    • @PMfromMB
      @PMfromMB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I’m from Canada and I hate parking lots too but I’d say it’s pretty accurate to what cities look like here and a lot of us cities are even worse. About 20% of my city’s downtown is surface parking 😢
      Again I hate it but I do like how realistic it is for a us/canadian city, and I think it opens up opportunities for some interesting conversations around land use, redevelopment, and autocentricity in Bend in the future.

    • @danp1871
      @danp1871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad DT Vancouver has done away with almost all surface parking in the downtown core.@@PMfromMB

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Mostly because of parking minimums. They stink in real life and cause much the same effect, but they make it look more realistic to me. That said, I may have gone a bit overboard in this one, lol!

    • @danp1871
      @danp1871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would be cool to have city council replaced with a new, more forward thinking council instead of just keeping the status quo. just saying. Love your series. Keep up the awesome job your doing =)@@CityPlannerPlays

    • @EchoCian
      @EchoCian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Parking minimums in the US are a whole thing - most of them are empty wastes of space because they have to legally be built to the theoretical maximum capacity, even though that might only be reached a couple times a year, or possibly never be reached at all. It's massively wasteful but it's unfortunately what we're used to over here in Car Hell.

  • @anonymoussmith610
    @anonymoussmith610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude sometimes its good just having your videos on even if im not in the mind to comprehend wtf you explaining, you just have a good kind calm considerate and articulate vibe. thanks for all the great content

  • @christianspecht2799
    @christianspecht2799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Near me they redeveloped an old railyard into a park, changing the railtracks into pedestrian paths.
    I think that would have been a great idea here for a new part of the town.

    • @christianspecht2799
      @christianspecht2799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh and part of an old railway as well that was looping around the towncenter. It‘s now a famous spot to take a walk with a lot of amenities such as playgrounds for children, basketball courts, skateparks …

  • @Archie2100
    @Archie2100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad you added all the rail lines back in, I feel like it's pretty realistic that the railroad would leave all the old spur lines from the depot to redevelop into lots with rail access. It's kind of a win/win if they can sell the land and add to their freight business.

  • @coralreef6507
    @coralreef6507 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    something about the way he said "little baby trees" at 15:01 made me so happy 😭

  • @HKgunner
    @HKgunner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would be cool if you could plop down a huge warehouse at the old train depot footprint as a sign of some other businesses moving in rather than an expensive demoliton. For that matter it would be cool if CS2 had a feature where you can rezone buildings into new uses like how small industrial parks sometimes end up turning into niche commercial businesses

  • @RevAnakin
    @RevAnakin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a power engineer, it is 100% likely that a dedicated transmission substation would be built for a major power drawing building (usually a manufacturing plant), but could easily be a train facility outside of town.

  • @yuneydyparedes4736
    @yuneydyparedes4736 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m currently in college studying computer science and I really enjoy urban planning and civil engineering. I know this is just a game, but your expertise in the field helps me learn so much and is very interesting to watch. Love your videos!

  • @samreid6010
    @samreid6010 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I will say be careful removing trees on the hillside to improve the view. I used to live in Cincinnati and one of the major thoroughfares, Columbia Parkway (US Route 50), is built into the side of Mount Adams and Mount Lookout. At some point someone on Mount Adams decided he wanted to remove all the trees from his backyard to improve his view… then someone else… then the whole neighborhood. Pretty soon Mount Adams was basically treeless and Columbia Parkway was buried under a landslide of landslides. Even today, with all the millions the city has spent trying to shore up the hillside, half of Columbia Parkway is closed at least once or twice a year because of a slide

  • @jah211084
    @jah211084 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While the old railway sidings are gone, I think it’d be cool to make a park that still has the remains of the rail network in it.

  • @Gunner6000WarZ
    @Gunner6000WarZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I kinda miss the "charred" look effect after a wildfire in CS1..... These fires don't feel or look as devastatingly destructive without it.

  • @Kristoff0402
    @Kristoff0402 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You could add a firetower next to the “outlook path”. It could resemble a small watchtower that hikers could climb.
    Great vid as always 🙏

  • @jeremyroither4360
    @jeremyroither4360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are just so much more engaging than a lot of other content creators. The way you explain why you're doing something from a planning perspective. To little things like saying "take a tour of what WE'VE done" it makes the viewer feel included. Well done.

  • @MiddleVeen
    @MiddleVeen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing that might make sense with all the hills and trees would be a few fire breaks maybe along some things like train tracks or roads to help prevent the forest fires.

  • @gogofuntime_yt
    @gogofuntime_yt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Phil, I had a suggestion with the retaining wall coming from the new rail depot. Instead of having vertical concrete walls, I would imagine the railroad would use steeply banked sides instead. This is for a couple of reasons, one is for visibility, its good to be able to see what the train is doing especially in a rail yard. Another reason would be the width of the train itself. Locomotives often stick out past the rail, especially with the window flaps that often go above the window on modern diesels. Other than that, some of the switches are pretty complicated, like the 3 way also near the yard, but its overall reasonable. I approve your rail alignment!

  • @argonewronge5793
    @argonewronge5793 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My biggest thanks from Russia. I usually never writing a comments, but your series are such amazing. It's really interesting how you explain the city planning standards in America and how they differ from Russians. You are my best finding in 2023, and i wish you only the best, my American partner!

  • @karlengel583
    @karlengel583 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You should terraform a bit where the old landfill was and make a small park out of it to imitate capping the landfill!

  • @alejandrocoto9655
    @alejandrocoto9655 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something to consider is the train tracks leaving the train depot after the bridge would be a real flood hazard due to the tracks being dug into the ground. Especially with close proximity to the lake

  • @DominikW118
    @DominikW118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I gotta be honest, those imperfect rail connections at 5:30 are not gonna sit well with me 😂

    • @k_lxndo
      @k_lxndo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same

    • @DarwinPlaysVideoGames
      @DarwinPlaysVideoGames 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't let perfect be the enemy of good 😆

    • @RampantFirefly
      @RampantFirefly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or how about the single tracks leading into the cargo terminal so cargo trains end up blocking the main line and preventing passenger trains from moving - which was the whole reason for moving the rail yard in the first place 😅

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's hard for me to see, too.... haha! You know me - I'll probably try to fix this again!

    • @adeadfishdied
      @adeadfishdied 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CityPlannerPlaysWhat if you were to connect the inside tracks to the outside tracks (instead of the central track)?

  • @TyreeC
    @TyreeC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Maybe its a european vs american thing, but it makes me so sad to see you add so many parking lots in the same area for so few buildings. Regardless, great series, looking forward to the next.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think that one is really European vs American. We overbuild parking, tbh

    • @cumunist2120
      @cumunist2120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s definitely an American thing so much parking EVERYWHERE

  • @bjrnsrensen8456
    @bjrnsrensen8456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That new office park is screaming for a park for the office workers to be in nature during their breaks.

  • @DrTeer
    @DrTeer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another gem. It's also a joy to see all of the constructive mutual engagement in the comments. Thanks, Phil!

  • @plannernerd8403
    @plannernerd8403 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great build, Phil! One thing that I think you’d like to know - the ~ button beside 1 on the keyboard will toggle all the UI, notification icons, add the blue highlights on buildings (would have been great when zooming into the lookout of the county park).

  • @xjoobx
    @xjoobx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU FOR UNLISTING THIS VIDEO BEHIND PAYWALL. Your free viewers love you for this! Please keep this whole series free

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’ll always be free, just providing early access as a members perk.

  • @raoulv
    @raoulv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Besides the parking discussion, adding paths in this erea without transit, is just insane 😂(dutch) love the series, please keep it up!

  • @ericambros
    @ericambros 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Names a street after Myrtle. “I hope that appeases Myrtle.” Next episode: fires rage

  • @gavinbenz9034
    @gavinbenz9034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Definitely just became a channel member to watch this

  • @fooboo98
    @fooboo98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The rail yard would have its substation by the yard, it’s as real as it gets and there would be substations spread out across the tracks connecting into the city because that’s unwanted land and easier to hide the subs

  • @DropIet
    @DropIet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Should put a pedestrian bridge across the tracks at the old railyard redevelopment so the other side can access the commercial buildings.

  • @FDDOA
    @FDDOA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "But everyone seems to understand that Clearwater Southern has gotten very lucky this time..." A more true statement about the rail industry (from an insider's perspective,) has never been spoken...

  • @w1ll1amtv
    @w1ll1amtv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont often comment on videos for "engagement" but the amount of effort you put into these videos while still uploading so often needs commending! Keep it up, you're awesome!

  • @Ratelheart
    @Ratelheart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At Union Station in New Haven, CT there is absolutely a substation right next to the station. I think it’s for the overhead lines for the electric trains.

  • @psychorabbitt
    @psychorabbitt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're in your Billy Joel arc - you didn't start the fire; it was always burnin' since the world's been turnin'.

  • @barretblue
    @barretblue หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is absolutely criminal how easy you make this game look, man

  • @novaroboticsindustries4702
    @novaroboticsindustries4702 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Phil, haven't caught up on the newer videos yet, but just a reminder that there are some signature buildings that are diners, nicer restaurants, and foodhalls (there is also a car dealership and a truck stop) so you may want to use them from time to time if you need a specific asset! They are also super easy to unlock if you just zone and de-zone for a bit.

  • @CurtisDyer
    @CurtisDyer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    0:39 - Imagine a railroad apologizing lol.

  • @fsvben
    @fsvben 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a European, whenever I see you placing an extra parking lot for a building I think to myself "typical American"😅 I suggest that the county with increasing density and the numbers of low income students increasing, public transport is required to expand.

  • @price1800
    @price1800 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the big progress in this episode! One thing I've noticed of concern in this build is the way pedestrian paths are used. In a lot of places (especially in the office redeveloped old industrial area) the paths go behind buildings and seem to be used as landscaping details rather than functional and realistic paths. The businesses likely wouldn't want paths behind and around their buildings (off-street) for security reasons and expansion reasons. I also think pedestrians wouldn't want to take those paths for their own safety since they are hidden from sightlines and crimes would be easier to commit (think dark-alleyway vibes). The focus for pedestrian access should be on sidewalks for those reasons. Perhaps additional pedestrian paths should be used primarily to connect sidewalks on large blocks in residential neighborhoods and to create greenways for larger multi-purpose access and transit.

  • @subressor1
    @subressor1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The parking obsession is really killing me

  • @IgnorantGravity
    @IgnorantGravity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I imagine a 50 or 100 year flood scenario would cause some major issues with the new train station having tracks funneling water directly to it from the lake.

  • @MateriaGirl
    @MateriaGirl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The campfire spot looks RIDICULOUS with the full grown trees. It's so obvious they didn't design them with full grown trees in mind.

  • @negativeroots
    @negativeroots 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Northern Michigan has huge grid stands of red pine planted by the CCC during the Great Depression. Not sure how it would turn out but may be cool to include in some rural areas. If there's a small pine tree asset you could do some Christmas tree farms similar to your orchards. Such a great series, thanks so much!

  • @trekie9001
    @trekie9001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having active rail going through a rail yard is pretty common, as are large parking lots. Look at Laurel, Montana. There's a large BNSF rail yard there, and many parked employee owned vehicles.

  • @frostbound
    @frostbound 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving the series. It's a little weird that a "fire" swept through the town but only through icons and a couple of burned down buildings, all of the trees looked unscathed which was interesting. Also I really liked that you added back some tracks in the industrial area where the railyard was. Made it seem more like there were tracks there that were added to or repurposed (since there were).

  • @fizzyt1803
    @fizzyt1803 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I quite often watch your videos leaning back in my chair with a cat asleep in my arms, I find them good to nap to 😽 I do restart the videos and watch them again when awake haha

  • @_CJ_
    @_CJ_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As guy from europe it is crazy to see US obsession with putting giant parking lots everywhere :D Admitedly we have a bit too little parking lots especially in cities but everything is walkable pretty everywhere, if not you have public transport.... when I see you putting walkways it is like - "wow so it is walkway around giant parking lot? who would go through there?" I never realized that there is so big difference :) I'm looking forward to DLC with bicycles so you can desing some heavy public transport 15-minute city with limited car use 🧡Thank you for video, love the story :)

  • @Lake_Filter
    @Lake_Filter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always love a good redevelopment. It feels like a clear sign that the city is alive and well for me. The sprawl, on the other hand, felt like leeches feeding off the growth of the city. Maybe that's just the way it is in my city with its poor development plan and thriving land cartels. But at the end of the day, I'd always love cities growing tall, not wide.
    I hope to see more service and utilities building grow modularly in the future.

  • @xOUnD34DOx
    @xOUnD34DOx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not working in utilities but by pure logic the tracks would have powerlines aswell, so the Railyard itself probably should have a high voltage transformer built in. Since that seems not to be the case, i think adding one seems incredibly reasonable.

  • @EchoCian
    @EchoCian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most unrealistic part of this story is a rail company admitting to its mistakes.
    I enjoy the stories. They might not always be the most plausible scenarios, but they're fun and give more character to what would otherwise possibly default to some optimal build.
    I'm tempted to try to build my city in base CS after watching your videos. Could be an interesting challenge.

  • @ILYLexi13
    @ILYLexi13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Realizing you are not going to address the fires for until two episodes from now makes me deeply fear for James and Jamila’s safety

  • @AlexanderArts
    @AlexanderArts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think everything is looking so cool! The only thing I don't really like is the long cut-and-fill train track going through the hill toward and around the lake. I have no idea if a tunnel there would be more realistic, but I think it would look a lot nicer.

    • @Xenon0000000000001
      @Xenon0000000000001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think a simple ditch/cutting slope would be most realistic and look better than the cut-and-fill.

  • @justinkoreska
    @justinkoreska 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the expression "spraying trees"! I chuckled the first time I heard you say it and it's uniquely "city builder".

  • @MorganHJackson
    @MorganHJackson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know what's really funny? I couldn't get started on a city for ages, until I just decided to get this map and copy your start. I should have kept watching before I did, cause now I gotta move the train depot!

  • @TainaraFrostSWE
    @TainaraFrostSWE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    38:55 i have 2 thoughts on the park and specifically on the lookout. Fist is a firewatch tower could "act" as a lookout tower as it looks good and keeps the area safe. The other is a bit special. Add a Water tower and buy the upgrad so it will work as a viewing experience for your park.

  • @DZag6149
    @DZag6149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    43:26 The zoning for the gas station is 3x5 this is why you have been unable to get one recently

  • @screwkingsisle6459
    @screwkingsisle6459 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how realistic your plots are

  • @ExpedientFalcon
    @ExpedientFalcon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode! You may not even need as much low rent housing as you think, given that one of the causes of the "high rent" complaints can be unemployment. Can't pay the rent if they don't have a job.

  • @asfnash17
    @asfnash17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from the Bay Area and Caltrain (the main passenger rail in the area) goes through, and slows down through, and shares rails, with multiple industrial uses. So it’s actually pretty realistic in the US to have that when most passenger rails operate on cargo/industrial lines that they share right of way with.

    • @asfnash17
      @asfnash17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It also goes right through the Caltrain rail yard after leaving the San Jose station and it is SLOWWWWWWW

  • @niwaar
    @niwaar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I noticed some back up on the train line with trains waiting on the main line to head to what I can only assume is the cargo station. With all the "cosmetic lines" you added in the area, you could easily alleviate that by making a longer side line

  • @korishan
    @korishan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been wondering how you have such knowledge of the city planning. Looked at your About section, and now it makes sense!!! 😂
    I have definitely been enjoying your videos and enjoy how you go into details about how to plan things out, for the now and for the future. And I especially love how you add a very plausible story to your city builds!

  • @PensiveSnoot
    @PensiveSnoot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Like watching you build, but your laugh makes me run for the hills.

  • @JoyBuildsCities
    @JoyBuildsCities 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Catching up out of order. So happy to be back watching my favorite game and creator!

  • @TheArmanRus
    @TheArmanRus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding service stations: I use 4x5 EU low density commercial to spawn them. Also with the Extended Tooltip you can see what product it sells while the building is spawning so mulligan away until you see Petrochemicals.

  • @saldridge92
    @saldridge92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:55 I like leaving the old track or making them pedestrian paths for “history”

  • @theFeuFeu
    @theFeuFeu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    16:03 - "We are just fine" he says as the whole area catches fire...

  • @TheCyclone1357
    @TheCyclone1357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    45:30 I work for an electric utility and there are strict federal regulations for vegetation under high voltage transmission lines. In Iowa you usually only see grass, small shrubs or farmland under power lines. You wouldn't see any trees within the roughly 100' easement/row

  • @MrAbraxus666
    @MrAbraxus666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted to mention about yer country restaurant place. In Scotland/UK a very common thing, especially on older/royal/private estates or parks, there's often a farm shop, search the map for a wee ruined cottage, pop a couple of very small farms down and fire an older unique building nearby and claim that it was a Scottish Laird who moved over to the county hundreds of years ago, made his fortune from wood/lumber and this is the family estate trying to diversify interests. So teh farm shop sells goods produced on the farm, the old house is a mini museum, etc

  • @iOS6Fan1
    @iOS6Fan1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adding soooooo many parking spots for offices is a stark reminder of Phil's "Americanness"

  • @Morkeoth
    @Morkeoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent ! Like always !
    I'm really found of the way you just 'narrativize' everything as much as it is possible to.
    Really really great !

  • @lolandxdproductions
    @lolandxdproductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wild that companies really determine what our cities look like with business developments.

  • @tyjamison2751
    @tyjamison2751 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hiya City Planner, not only are you doing a fantastic job with the gameplay, story, and timelapses, the city tour portion should always be a feather in your cap. As an enjoyer of fade transitions, here are one Minnesotans thoughts on your excellent videos! Keep up the amazing work, and for comment readers, always look at the chapter headings (watch out for skidsteers!)
    50:54 9/10 Classic fade transition.
    50:11 8/10 Clean fade up to show simple road changes
    50:16 6/10 Timed great with the music, but really threw me for a loop with a hard switch
    50:22 7/10 Another classic pan, timed well, but was moving as fast as a train would!
    50:27 9/10 So simple, so practical
    50:33 4/10 Another hard switch that felt choppy instead of revealing
    50:39-50:43 7/10 Good circle fade, but it started to feel sluggish by the end
    50:46 10/10 What a good transition! Especially when contrasting the resulting bright office colors to the original factory zoning!
    50:51 Landfill/10 Hopefully that ground pollution goes away soon! Triangle park deserves to flourish
    50:56 8/10 Going old school Star Wars with a clockwise wipe, classy!
    51:02 7/10 Simple box wipe, nothing crazy
    51:08 8/10 Rural development never looked better!
    51:14 6/10 I had to squint several times to look for the changes I just spent almost an hour watching.

    • @CityPlannerPlays
      @CityPlannerPlays  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just going to say it, this is my favorite comment in a long time, haha! Thank you!!