Bully Talk with Zeb Pits (Dave Wilson Interview)

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  • @YOk-e7e
    @YOk-e7e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good dude, talked with him a few times back in the early 2000's about my dogs and the guy was there to talk to anytime. I'm not a breeder just had 2 of the best dogs ever and gave them the best life. Cheers

  • @rickyanthony2038
    @rickyanthony2038 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave Wilson is the man. I greatly respect all he has said & what he's done. Thank you Zeb pits for brining this to the world.

  • @southerncalisandiego1600
    @southerncalisandiego1600 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    RAZORS EDGE THE BEST AMERICAN BULLY LINE HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

    • @Hannibal54689
      @Hannibal54689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also big in Northern Cali. Razors and Gotti is the first pits I remember hearing about as a kid.

  • @2nd2nunbullies23
    @2nd2nunbullies23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    greatly respect and appreciate what you do and have done for the breed...

  • @tattooundergroundlive7806
    @tattooundergroundlive7806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching the guys who started it all its great great videos bully talk

  • @peterxiong
    @peterxiong 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid!!much respect for what Dave had to share!thats some real talk!

  • @luv2grow4u
    @luv2grow4u 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you're knowledgable and passionate with the way you're going out to do what you're have done I can't hear or see any selfish motive and what you're doing I want to be that kind of a bully owner

  • @Swell_Character
    @Swell_Character 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some folks don't seem to know the difference between designer show ring bulldogs like Razors Edge American bullies and the working/purpose bulldog breed known of as the American Pit bulldog or Pit Bull. Two very different breeds. The APB is a working/purpose bulldog. Bulldogs (APBs) are swell dogs. Not only swell companions, but high drive working/purpose dogs that do their all to serve their masters. The APB is a dog that was designed and used as hunting dogs, butchers dogs, and as warring dogs in the bloodsport of bull and bear baiting. Dogs like APBTs are what people would call gripping dogs: dogs that are able to hunt, control, or catch large game by getting a good grip and work to either throw the large beast off balance or hold it in place for the farmer, rancher, or hunter. Like dog expert, author, and breed historian Diane Jessup writes:
    “First a hunter, then a butcher's dog, then a baiter, then a dog fighter, American Pit Bulls which display behavior typical of their heritage are gripping dogs; they come from a long, long genetic history which dictates they get a hold and HANG ON! This behavior saved their life during the years they were hunting boar, stag and bear, and also stood them in good stead when they moved on to working bulls, bears and other animals in baiting sports. This same behavior can work to make breaking up a fight quite easy and safe. The Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means Earth dog which pursues its quarry underground). The English bulldog is a relatively recently developed animal designed strictly for the show ring. In fact, English bulldogs were not even created until several years AFTER bull baiting (the purpose for which it was supposed to have been bred) was banned and discontinued in the United Kingdom. So, it is impossible for the Pit Bull to have been developed from a breed younger than itself. In fact, the English bulldog is developed from the original working bulldog - the Pit Bull. Written Pit Bull pedigrees date into the late 1700's. The history of the Pit Bull far predates the time when bans on bull baiting caused blood sport fanciers to turn to fighting dog against dog."
    They are powerful, versatile, and high drive working dogs that can either be used for good or bad. It's really more about the master, how the dog is raised, and what he is trained to do. It was from APBs that many breeds were made, like the American bulldog, Staffordshire bull terrier, and bull terrier. They also created the American bully. There are two major types of Bullies. There are the Bullies which are from mating APBs to more functional bulldog breeds or mastiffs (ancestors of APBs). Then there are the shorter and stockier Bullies that are bred with APBs (real bulldogs) and English bulldogs or French bulldogs (show ring bulldogs). The larger, longer-legged Bullies are more the way to go in my opinion. You get the size and look people want in Bullies yet you get a functional dog. I know that the American bully is a designer bulldog, but the way to go with them is up (taller with longer legs) not lower and out (shorter legs and bulkier). APBs are already part mastiff, and mastiffs are working dogs in their own right. People that cross APBs with mastiff dogs like the Presa Canario, Cane Corso, and Bully Kutta get a dog that is big boned, larger, has a larger head size, and is sturdier and is much more athletic than Bullies like the pocket Bullies that are bred with French bulldogs or other short-legged, and flat-faced bulldog breeds.

    • @MrYungsiz
      @MrYungsiz 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real shit im start calling mf out on there overpriced mutts

    • @Swell_Character
      @Swell_Character 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrYungsiz
      Are you talking about the American Bully? Yes, they are pretty overpriced for being random combinations of different bulldogs and/or mastiffs not bred for any purposes other than looks. But I guess that's just how it is and has been for quite some time. Designer breeds like the golden doodle or puggle to non-working purebreds like English bulldogs, people seem to be more about show and less about go. But give me a working bulldog anyday. And it's not even that I need a working dog. They make great pets as well.

    • @Xtremechampionbullyz
      @Xtremechampionbullyz 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      how can you be right and so wrong at the same time. apbt is a working terrier breed classified in the terrier canine classes. (first incorrect statement) bulldogs were used in bull baiting never saw a apbt in bull bait they would be a little lite fam lmao. bull terrier breed existed before apbt. should I keep going lol were do you get your info from breeder website or something, lol. I would never bash apbt because like most I started out raising apbt just like david did. just stop making dumb remarks w/ lil facts to back it up just because you don't like the fact that more people are interested in bully breeds than apbt breeds. we already separated the two into different breed classes so what are you arguing about?
      out of all that this is the only statement that was correct.... (There are two major types of Bullies. There is the working Bullies, which are bred from APBTs and mastiffs (ancestors of APBTs).
      never mind you were wrong there two but let me ask you a question? what are bullies bred from. you said apbt & mastiffs but what else. you also stated that apbt have real or old English bulldog I guess what you meant which is false. matter fact do respond just grow up you cant hate on someone who did a lot for both breeds and if you don't like AB then keep it to ur self or post pics/vids of your dogs next to bullies and let veiwers decide which are more attractive instead of hate trolling

    • @Swell_Character
      @Swell_Character 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Xtremechampionbullyz
      I believe you need to look at the history. As well respected author, professional, and breed historian Diane Jessup writes:
      “Pit Bulls are actually one of the oldest and certainly one of the purest. Written pit bull pedigrees date into the late 1700's. The history of the Pit Bull far predates the time when bans on bull baiting caused blood sport fanciers to turn to fighting dog against dog. The very name "bull" or "bulldog" gives us the clue as to what the original purpose of this breed was. There is some terrier blood in the modern pit bull. Terrier blood was added, just as mastiff blood was also added. However, the Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means "Earth dog" which pursues its quarry underground).”
      Also, through written accounts and old artwork, we know exactly how the original bull baiting dogs looked and how much they weighed. Concerning the bull baiting bulldogs it says that:
      “The true bulldog was a 40 to 65 pound dog, long of leg, with a strong, medium, working muzzle, and a long, thin tapering tail.
      But history aside, we can still see what these dogs were used for by what they are commonly used for and popular choices for today. They are gripping dogs, and as gripping dogs, they are very commonly used for hunting, controlling, and even baiting large game animals still to this day. They make great hunting dogs of both small and large game, and are sometimes used for vermin control against animals like rabbits and raccoons. I understand that the American Bully and the working bulldog (APBT) are two separate breeds, just as the English bulldog is not the same breed as the APBT simply because it came from breeding the APBT with other dogs. But mastiff Bullies are the way to go. You get the size and look people want in Bullies yet stay true to the working ability of the APBT. The way to go with a bulldog, if you are going to increase the size, is up (taller with longer legs) not lower and out (shorter legs and bulkier). APBTs are already part mastiff like the history says (being a combination of larger mastiffs like the Alaunt, and smaller hunting terriers), and mastiffs are working dogs in their own right. People that cross APBTs with mastiff dogs like the Presa Canario, Cane Corso, and Bully Kutta get a dog that is big boned, larger, has a larger head size, and is sturdier and is much more athletic than Bullies like the Pocket Bullies that are bred with French bulldogs or other short-legged, and flat-faced bulldog breeds. And as far as popularity, yes, Bullies are growing in popularity and are very popular. Bulldogs are a popular type of dog in general because of how diverse the different coat colors, sizes, eye colors, and their large differences in sizes and weight. But don't forget the other reason why people like and respect bulldogs. Their strength, abilities, and sturdy/sound body structure. Basically, everything that makes them favorable as both companion animals and working dogs. This is a large reason why bulldogs like the English bulldog will never come close to having the same level of respect, admiration, uses for working, and sought out abilities of the dogs that created them - the original working bulldog known as the APBT. Please, if you are an American Bully breeder, don't breed dogs like the Pocket Bullies. Use mastiff dogs, and help to keep the American Bully from turning into another English bulldog. They don't have to be the ultimate working dogs, but at least keep them to some kind of quality athletic, and sturdy body-frame standard that at least stays somewhat true to real working bulldogs.

    • @AJ-kb1kf
      @AJ-kb1kf 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Static Surge if you mix a pitbull with a mastiff that is known as an american bandogge. Not a apbt or pitbull.

  • @creacklago
    @creacklago 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GREAT VIDEO... MUCH RESPECT TO DAVE WILSON

  • @mrPSlblock
    @mrPSlblock 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zeb when these guys call names of their dogs you should show pictures.

  • @BLUELINEFAMILY
    @BLUELINEFAMILY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂 I’m glad I ran into this interview , Um this is the east coast version of the story !!!!! We need to hear the west coast version of this American bully movement, I understand the story but it’s being told in a very razors edge kind of way ! Lol the people that got the police called on and kicked out of the part was actually me , my homie dan from ganghis kon kennels , my Hawaiian homie Tui , and my home boy Ryan , after we got kicked out we put up our own money and purchased beers and meat threw our own bbq and invited people from the “various msn boards “ to all come out on a separate day when the Ukc would not be at the park ! And before the abkc was even thought about we had Larry Duran and the abk registry . Oh my goodness we are about to tell the west coast side of this . . Not bashing any one but like I said this is a very very lop sided side of the story giving razor edge to much credit and leaving out some very important facts .

    • @zebpits
      @zebpits  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s good Eddie? You know I interviewed Larry Duran. Check that interview out

    • @BLUELINEFAMILY
      @BLUELINEFAMILY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zebpits I will have to check it out tonight .

  • @Casper10M
    @Casper10M 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always wonder why is their more breeding work being done than playing with our dogs

  • @delfinolopez2109
    @delfinolopez2109 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I followed it all.ll Respect to the game. From the 70s show it.

  • @andytheiguana
    @andytheiguana 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this dude is an idle to me i own a am bully and i love him very much most amazing dog very well with my daughter and they are stuck like glue! i actually bought a house with 2 acres to get more of these dogs there amazing!!!!

  • @YeLa80
    @YeLa80 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    There has been some talk about buckshot not being off knuckles. Thats what i mean by hung papers. These are questions i would have asked him if I was doing the interview.

  • @maRRtin929
    @maRRtin929 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much love DAVE.
    Martin R.

  • @TWISTED41976
    @TWISTED41976 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely enjoyed this.

  • @Carlc1984
    @Carlc1984 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Merles and exotics accepted good job boss man

  • @machopuppychulo8911
    @machopuppychulo8911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video

  • @khajahkool
    @khajahkool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    are any of these dogs used in Shutshund training?

  • @corrydvm09
    @corrydvm09 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be on the lookout, then, jadamuhammadjm, because the official American Bully book will be released 2013. And Dave (a friend of mine) is a very honest, trustworthy guy and what he says is true.

  • @YeLa80
    @YeLa80 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also wanted to say that I would've asked him way more tougher questions than that. Zeb Pits I think you were a little to easy with dave. What about when people say he hung papers, he found buckshot did he actually come off knuckles, I mean dude you were way to easy on this dude in this interview.

  • @YeLa80
    @YeLa80 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MegaAflac thats great you have an all around great dog. But no one hating or causin drama there are very important questions that needed to be asked that werent to me dave controlled the whole direction of this interview. Yeah of course he would say he wants to stay away from the negativity when someone accuses him of doing shady things when it comes to the dog. I would rather own an unhealthy dog with legitimate paperwork, than to have a healthy companion/guardian with ilegitimate papers!!

  • @BrooklynBoas
    @BrooklynBoas 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work Zeb. There is just something about this dude I don't trust ! I never trust a nigga that talks to you with shades on ALL the time !

  • @RANarine
    @RANarine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    RE dogs are here in the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago

  • @danjohansen9986
    @danjohansen9986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi from DENMARK IAM A HAPPY OWNER

  • @MegaAtlacatl
    @MegaAtlacatl 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zookgoon1 and roastfacekilla2 u2 need to shut ur mouths. Hater always causing drama. Didn't u pay attn to the vid? Did u miss Daves main point? Healthy, good looking dogs and a positivity.
    Much props and respect to dave, bc of u I have a hell of companion/family/guardian dog.

  • @YeLa80
    @YeLa80 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Lil Rizzie is good choice for the face of the razorsedge bloodline. I would have to say he is a good choice.

  • @MrTheChosenOne78
    @MrTheChosenOne78 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why it's called "pits" and they aren't Apbts.

    • @khajahkool
      @khajahkool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      it appears that they are pits just not bred for the box

    • @MrTheChosenOne78
      @MrTheChosenOne78 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +khayree jannah It appears that you don't know the breed.

    • @khajahkool
      @khajahkool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrTheChosenOne78 no, I don't know the breed.

    • @MrTheChosenOne78
      @MrTheChosenOne78 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +khayree jannah Oh ok....I guess you've been breeding and dealing with these hounds for 25 years huh? What bloodline you running?

    • @khajahkool
      @khajahkool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrTheChosenOne78 I just told you "I DON'T KNOW THE BREED".... I was serious when I said that. Lol.. I myself am from the performance bred American Pit Bull Terrier since 1984. I've been 'observing' this breed from the outside looking in and just now starting to do my research. I see this bully community has its share of drama just add every community does but I'm looking into these hounds. I'd actually like to aquire one from a line that's known for performance as well as show. And by performance I mean Schutzhund, Security or hunting etc.....

  • @Xtremechampionbullyz
    @Xtremechampionbullyz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it funny to hear debate about hung papers and yes they had to have hung paper for the breed to change like it did you. you will never see 2 Dobermans breed together and have a litter that look like Rottweiler. but even the first pitbull apbt a original mix breed was a melting pot so how can people bash people and complain about bully breeds etc.. when their apbt have mastiff x greyhound (original bulldog) x 2-4 different terriers plus other breed depending on bloodlines. that just hilarious to me, do your research, be humble and love what ever dog that in ur house even if its a mutt....

  • @PrivateStocc
    @PrivateStocc 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The public is so confused when it comes to the am bully cause of all the lying and paper hangin hell after finding out what I know now I don't even know what a am bully is due to all the mixing it truly is sad

  • @jimiwilliams7176
    @jimiwilliams7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a great thing in the beginning but the bullies are to bulky now legs are to short and the lack agility and performance and structure you need to take them back to the style you had great built dogs that were dogs agile fit and good structure can't wait to see what you got if you come back in the game i started making mine better a few generation ago no AI or C SECTION they work rats and can run all day my main dog is a standard Gotti muscletone line breed dog 8 years old 19 inches to the withers and still works and does miles no problem he's about 90 lbs and like a pup love the breed but it needs help

  • @Handsteamworldwide
    @Handsteamworldwide 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    in other words a "Ban Dog".. They look good tho..

  • @integragsr423
    @integragsr423 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know razorsedge started ambully but some people atre mixing english bulldog n callin it 100% razorsedge. .hurting the bloodline

  • @gamekr
    @gamekr 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The media made up that shit about pitbull being a type, a pitbull is a breed of dog not a type a bully is a bully They used show bred ukc apbt (in my opinion more athleticly built staffs) and akc amstaffs and other breeds. Am bullies are not apbt and shouldnt be called pits. even dave agrees

  • @rubyfoley7850
    @rubyfoley7850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people keep labeling everything as a pittbull

  • @gillianbrown3692
    @gillianbrown3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 dog's did not make a full one you need 4 cross breads put together

  • @Outlaw-Josey-Wales
    @Outlaw-Josey-Wales 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ukanuba cost an arm and a leg

  • @c619cuesta
    @c619cuesta 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go pick up a book my dude any dog that would fight in a pit was called a pit dog and if it seemed like it fell in the bulldog category they added bull like a Boston terrier was referred as a pitbull the war hero dog stumpy looks like a Boston terrier now in modern time they changed it but any bull breed comes from a bulldog so when people say bullies aren't pitbulls they don't know what they are talking about they are pitbulls just bred for a different purpose they come from the bull & terrier!

  • @halloffamebullies
    @halloffamebullies 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAVE LIES A LOT. ONLY WANTS CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING GOOD ABOUT THE GAME. EVEN IF HE DID NOT DO IT. LIKE HE SAID EVERYONE BENEFITS FROM HIS WORK. LOL

  • @gillianbrown3692
    @gillianbrown3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the 2nd generation is what dog wod

  • @Zay_doughboi
    @Zay_doughboi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing against the breed, im just tired of people trying to call them american pit bull terriers. They're their own breed. Far from alike.

  • @integragsr423
    @integragsr423 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oreba is masterofallbulldogs..on TH-cam ..he hates bullys so much he claims every1 is tagging papers

  • @stkdillenger819
    @stkdillenger819 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    fake razorsedge? they started the AmBully!

  • @anthonysilva3859
    @anthonysilva3859 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    He still is a dog man I just talked to ed Shepard saying if you breed old style bully dogs you won't make cash and it's all that really matters smh

  • @gillianbrown3692
    @gillianbrown3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd generation is ban

  • @derrickalarcon3424
    @derrickalarcon3424 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cairo didn't run off in the woods lol this dude is a pathological liar. Smh

  • @gamekr
    @gamekr 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    in hope he wont use game bred dogs for goig back in time

  • @sojahk867
    @sojahk867 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    APBT ain't a pure breed dog it's mixed wit mastiff

    • @orlandoemecheta4468
      @orlandoemecheta4468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      no it aint pitbull is a pure breed 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @integragsr423
    @integragsr423 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol now there recognized as an ambully with standards ...And all those fake razorsedge goodbye

  • @sojahk867
    @sojahk867 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Original razor edge are pits

    • @MrTheChosenOne78
      @MrTheChosenOne78 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ain't nothing "pit" about them dogs.

  • @jimiwilliams7176
    @jimiwilliams7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bang on with the exotics they took an healthy dog and had deformities thats backwards a dog should be able to chase a cat and lick his own nuts

  • @sojahk867
    @sojahk867 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    APBT ain't a pure breed dog it's mixed wit mastiff

    • @gsdmomb530
      @gsdmomb530 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      are you serious? the APBT IS a purebred. do your research

    • @westwesty6665
      @westwesty6665 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sojah k ur a mix breed of dumb an dumber

    • @khajahkool
      @khajahkool 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mona B comments like that should be ignored. smh

    • @timelessvickdamone
      @timelessvickdamone 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sojah K wrong where you get your info there's no mastiff in apbt