I said it before and I'll say it again. A lot of the core problems with this game is that the enemy just runs towards you and spams attacks. That's not fun and forces you to play in one specific way. The enemy needs to have 2 phases. Offensive and Defensive. Offensive. Attacks once. Ignores getting damaged and only aims to go in for the attack when close. Defensive. After one attack, they back up from the player and are more prone to dodging attacks. A few seconds in and then will switch back to offensive.
I could make the argument the enemy attempting dodges and Chara's cleanse is the defensive half, however, Woloned making the mini genocide might have something along those lines.
This actually would make more sense when thinking about the source material too. In undertale, you and the enemy take turns attacking, with you dodging after attacking, so this could sort of represent that in game.
I don't believe that's intentional, the original video that discovered this secret just referred to it as that, but everyone mutually agreed that was the name for it.
Great video! I just want to say something you might not have known. If you go back to older versions and use the unlock all cheat in the older version, it saves on the newest version. And the thing you said about flowey is so true! It gets boring after spamming vines then using the pellets over again
I noticed that with my file 3 save, in 1.4, the unlockall cheat still cursed me with the Toby Dog in 1.5 and 1.6 when version swapping. If Frisk (1.4) was reworked for monotonous gameplay, then I doubt Flowey will be exempt from that depending on what Woloned thinks, as well as what he plans on doing between now and 1.6.3.
Thanks for telling me this. The fact that Papyrus got his kit upgraded yet can still do the same trick I used to do on him is amazing. Well played, Woloned.
just beat hard level 3 as asgore and will be working on demonic mode. quick tip: if you land the slash (blue version), chara will slow down considerably. since the cooldowns are so fast on easy mode, you can keep chara slow the whole round while you're spamming all of asgore's attacks. edit: just beat demonic mode too. edit (again): looks like blue attacks in general slow chara down. maybe that will help with papyrus? edit (again again): just beat demonic mode as papyrus. slowing chara down really does help a lot.
I find it funny how Woloned stated he'd make 1.6.1 either at the start of July or start of August, and he spent an entire month and a half just making bugfix patches for 1.6, up to 1.6.0.8, and I barely even mentioned half the bugs I had encountered.
As shown in the video, I have contact with Woloned and I get frequent news. Because of the number of things that came in his way, he openly decided to skip straight to making another large update, that being 1.7. I'll explain all that when I make the 1.7 review video, but according to Woloned, that may not be until New Year.
Btw I made murder sans he is op and balanced. All you need is asgore and change the fireball effect into bones or sharp bones. Base stats are : 150 HP, 90 Power, 4 DMG, 40 Speed. Attacks : 1 : bone 2 : fireballs (fireballs hand if charged) 3 : circle blaster (gaster blaster if charged) 4 : teleport (time stop if charged) 5 : fireball wave (fireball circle if charged) Now into passives. Buffs : Karma, Rest (the base rest) Debuffs : Snail, No Mercy. The character is so good that I basically beated demonic mode easily.
Tbh, I hate the newer update it makes the sans campaign more challenging but it was already balanced for others. Soo. Some characters are either impossible to unlock or impossible to complete it's campaign I'm speaking from my experience, note I'm not a bonetale player anymore (I'm more of a roblox undertale player)
Frisk in Bonetale used to be my least favourite character to play as, but after beating demonic mode as Frisk, Frisk has definitely became the most funnest character to play as.
@@insertuncreativenamehere btw i love the edit style you used im currently only halfway throghu the vid on the undyne section but i really liked you useing thwt one backrooms track for papyrus demonic mode lol
Bro that hate chara lich edit was one of the best thing i saw you really outdid yourself with this vidieo editing when compared to the last one its insane you seem to have even more ptsd towards hate than i do@@insertuncreativenamehere
I know you already defeated hate chara but heres another way you may be able to defeat them in the newest version... Go to character creation pick [SUPER COOL MEGA POSE] for a normal button for example x then pick dash for x max and if you hold it while standing you will get super fast and be stuck in the left side of the room but youll be invincible but if you pick [fast slashes] (one of asgors abilitys) and use it while your stuck and go in any direction you will be free invincible and looking like a ghost (youll see what i mean when you use it:) and remember you shouldnt move while you using the dash and pose ability because it will be like a short teleport and it gets you out of the invincible mode altough it takes a few sec and you should stand still you may be able to defeat hate chara with it by speeding up or something ?...idont really know man (but dont get me wrong im not saying go through all that pain again im saying try it on any level you want its your choice i just said it because is a cool bug it maybe easier to defeat hate chara with this bug but im not forcing anyone to do it i might try it my self) So yeah thats all:)id appreciate it if you did spend your time reading this comment:] (btw dude you your videos are awesome keep it up and you really attract the undertale fandom with that video XD)
That's actually a smart idea all things considered, though I spent 9 hours just to encounter this three times, I don't think I'll be doing that again until further notice...but when I showed Woloned how I defeated it, he said I had inspired him, and all I can say is chances are he's gonna make it even scarier and more impossible, haha.
@@insertuncreativenamehere9 hours??welp i dont think ill try it either after you said 9 hours😂but its cool bug tough try it on normal levels if you want👍
The chances (from what I know) are 1/1200. With Sans, I got her in 15 minutes. With Flowey, I got her in 3 hours. If not for the randomness and luck of it, I would've had this video done sooner, because trying to encounter Hate Chara took longer than anything I did in the custom character maker.
I will edit the description to show the unedited campaign footage later. Unlike the first part (linked in the description), I used a lot more music of my own choice rather than just Undertale/Deltarune/Bonetale music, so here's a list of every music used by order of appearance: Klaus Phase 1 (Don't Starve Together) D.R. Style Vinyl (Don't Starve) Broken Vessel (Hollow Knight) Nightmare King (Hollow Knight) RUN FOR IT! (Escape The Backrooms) Heartache (Bonetale) Your Lost Friend (Bonetale) Spider Dance (Undertale) Host of Horrors (Don't Starve Together) Truth, Beauty, and Hatred (Hollow Knight) Wickerbottom Title Theme (Don't Starve Together) The Ultimate Showdown (Lemon Demon) Celestial Champion Phase 1 (Don't Starve Together) Soul Master (Hollow Knight) Hotel Theme (Undertale) Monkey Accordion (Don't Starve Together) Nyeh Heh Heh! (Undertale) Greenpath (Hollow Knight) Three Days to Live (Team Fortress 2) Klaus Phase 2 (Don't Starve Together) Toadstool (Don't Starve) Pandora Palace (Deltarune)
I noticed a bug where as the custom character you can attack during the starting cutscene when pressing skip while there are certain abilities put on the C binded slot. Edit: and another bug where dying as a custom character with the rebirth ability occasionally softlocked me and I would be unable to continue, forcing me to have to restart the game
Hey man could you try out some roblox undertale games? There are great gems I'll put some UT Sands : Remake Undertale Tower Defense/Undertale Adventures. Undertale Soul Ops 2
26:43 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video! 34:03 like 99% of fanmade sans fights in a nutshell: 41:30 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video! x2 42:18 ohhhh so you werent supposted to not get hit, you just had to get hit too much, oblivously! 42:50 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video! x3
Hate Chara originally traces back to Glitchtale Season 1 Episodes 3-5 (I personally do not like Glitchtale, but I don't discourage watching if you need context of this Chara form). I never asked Woloned the origin of this, however, I don't believe it's intentionally Hate Chara, especially in terms of what happens in-game. The video that originally showed this secret called it that, so the Bonetale community collectively agreed that's what it was. From what I know, this is just a rare Easter egg designed to jumpscare and kill you with no hopes of fighting back, unless you're a lunatic like me.
In 1.5 or 1.6, using the UNLOCKALL cheat will play the annoying dog music whenever you are on the main menu screen while the Toby Dog bounces around, or does other funny things while Bonetale gets "cheats addition" added to the title and every shopkeeper is permanently replaced with the Toby Dog unless you either reset your save file, or go into a file that you didn't enable cheats for. Basically, it's just a permanent reminder you used commands to unlock everything rather than earning it. Versions 1.4 or earlier do not have the Toby Dog there to pester you.
Makes two of us. What's funny is when I brought it up to Woloned, he said, "You're outright inspiring me," and I'm not against him making it even harder XD
Papyrus is actually possible u needed to use bone trap wait a bit then use dodge do it untill she transforms into chara run and when shes low Just spam bones to the wall on all ways
35:30 Yo i found out that its not impossible. I saw one guy in the comments that said he beated it and sent proof on his channel. As for me i will start trying to beat him again (on medium mode of course) Also 45 Minutes reviewing the update huh👀 Edit: I cant find the comment on my video he may have removed it (or i really did not find it) but i do remember it. You will kinda have to trust me on this one😅
Try getting infinite max hp by going over the limit in the custom character thing ps thought i was in the video cuz there was another tnt guy commenter near the end
There's a 43 reply long war about it in the last video, it's still there. I really don't believe I did, like my dash lagging and one shotting Phase 1 Chara in the Frisk campaign, I think something similar happened. Quite frankly, I wasn't expecting Hate Chara to be killable in the first place.
Disbelief Papyrus was disabled in 1.6, as Woloned was either trying to mini rework or bugfix him. At one point in the video, I equip him in 1.5 and jump back. He's fully playable, but you can't move.
Hey man could you try out some roblox undertale games? There are great gems I'll put some UT Sands : Remake Undertale Tower Defense/Undertale Adventures. Undertale Soul Ops 2
eat chara
I already ate a pillow what more do you want from me
@@insertuncreativenamehere pain
@@insertuncreativenamehere hello to back up you I converted the thing you need to eat in to a chocolate bar yes it's me
@@eatbricks12334 eat a dead corpse
@@insertuncreativenamehere and thx bro for using my tip
42:03 HOLY SHIT THAT WAS INTENSE
Would have been funny if killing hate chara gave you lore accurate Asriel. That was still crazy though.
I said it before and I'll say it again. A lot of the core problems with this game is that the enemy just runs towards you and spams attacks. That's not fun and forces you to play in one specific way. The enemy needs to have 2 phases. Offensive and Defensive.
Offensive. Attacks once. Ignores getting damaged and only aims to go in for the attack when close.
Defensive. After one attack, they back up from the player and are more prone to dodging attacks. A few seconds in and then will switch back to offensive.
I could make the argument the enemy attempting dodges and Chara's cleanse is the defensive half, however, Woloned making the mini genocide might have something along those lines.
This actually would make more sense when thinking about the source material too. In undertale, you and the enemy take turns attacking, with you dodging after attacking, so this could sort of represent that in game.
The fact Phase 4 Chara is S1 GlitchTale Chara infected by HATE
I don't believe that's intentional, the original video that discovered this secret just referred to it as that, but everyone mutually agreed that was the name for it.
Great video! I just want to say something you might not have known. If you go back to older versions and use the unlock all cheat in the older version, it saves on the newest version. And the thing you said about flowey is so true! It gets boring after spamming vines then using the pellets over again
I noticed that with my file 3 save, in 1.4, the unlockall cheat still cursed me with the Toby Dog in 1.5 and 1.6 when version swapping.
If Frisk (1.4) was reworked for monotonous gameplay, then I doubt Flowey will be exempt from that depending on what Woloned thinks, as well as what he plans on doing between now and 1.6.3.
Yo you added my suggestion to the video? Nice also i made disbelief papyrus in custom character he is the exact same as the old one
I know Chara cleanses blue soul, but do they still jump a mile over you if you just change direction while walking?
Yes
Thanks for telling me this. The fact that Papyrus got his kit upgraded yet can still do the same trick I used to do on him is amazing. Well played, Woloned.
But the stamina is bugged for some reason but I can fix that I also added phase 2 but the stamina is cut by 50% which is bad but I can fix it
just beat hard level 3 as asgore and will be working on demonic mode.
quick tip: if you land the slash (blue version), chara will slow down considerably. since the cooldowns are so fast on easy mode, you can keep chara slow the whole round while you're spamming all of asgore's attacks.
edit: just beat demonic mode too.
edit (again): looks like blue attacks in general slow chara down. maybe that will help with papyrus?
edit (again again): just beat demonic mode as papyrus. slowing chara down really does help a lot.
It's crazy the bugs I've experienced it on mobile too😂
I find it funny how Woloned stated he'd make 1.6.1 either at the start of July or start of August, and he spent an entire month and a half just making bugfix patches for 1.6, up to 1.6.0.8, and I barely even mentioned half the bugs I had encountered.
Yeah, and it's Oct now 💀
As shown in the video, I have contact with Woloned and I get frequent news. Because of the number of things that came in his way, he openly decided to skip straight to making another large update, that being 1.7. I'll explain all that when I make the 1.7 review video, but according to Woloned, that may not be until New Year.
Sure, can't wait. I'll sub 🫡👌
Btw I made murder sans he is op and balanced.
All you need is asgore and change the fireball effect into bones or sharp bones.
Base stats are : 150 HP, 90 Power, 4 DMG, 40 Speed.
Attacks :
1 : bone
2 : fireballs (fireballs hand if charged)
3 : circle blaster (gaster blaster if charged)
4 : teleport (time stop if charged)
5 : fireball wave (fireball circle if charged)
Now into passives.
Buffs : Karma, Rest (the base rest)
Debuffs : Snail, No Mercy.
The character is so good that I basically beated demonic mode easily.
just use 20 blue bones vertical bounce and telekinesis
@@magicmeow8670 why? This is just a moveset of a character I made.
Finally someone who calls dust sans by his actual name
Lmao I don't disagree
@@insertuncreativenamehere hmm but hey I wish the game let's you create attacks.
Here's the deal.
If the devs add Dustbelief Papyrus as a unique, playable character, i'll download the game.
For asgore you could save your super move to only use the super dash on chara and when theyre away you can use the other super moves
Is that don't starve wendy
Yes.
Practice using Asgore also what is the music on the montage where you keep dying as Papyrus
I definitely will.
RUN FOR IT! by Insomic, Escape the Backrooms OST
23:25 you aren’t supposed to spam the ability
You need to press the button right at the end
Spamming it will take your mana but not do anything
Theres also a glitch with undyne if you just run up to frisk and spam spears she wont attack
Sadly it doesnt work for chara always
@@pakigamesgg I beat hard three with items to restore my power so it is possilbe
@@pakigamesgg but you still get max power from it so you can reach the undying form
IS THAT WENDY DONT STARVE ON THE THUMBNAIL? PEAK
Yes, yes it is.
@@insertuncreativenamehere one million years of summon abigail
Tbh, I hate the newer update it makes the sans campaign more challenging but it was already balanced for others. Soo. Some characters are either impossible to unlock or impossible to complete it's campaign I'm speaking from my experience, note I'm not a bonetale player anymore (I'm more of a roblox undertale player)
I can't hold anything against you, that's fair. I have my biases about Frisk since 1.4.
holy shit its the funny hotel chase music
0:00 fair.
You're so real for that
It would be interesting to see what the fifth phase of chara would look like.
Your license to live has expired.
„Your license to afterlife has ended. Please depart from this realm and transcend to the next one.”
YIPPEE ITS HEREEE
Frisk in Bonetale used to be my least favourite character to play as, but after beating demonic mode as Frisk, Frisk has definitely became the most funnest character to play as.
You have my respect.
This was a great video keep up the good work
Honestly cant belive i was featured in another vid
Twice in a row, haha.
@@insertuncreativenamehere btw i love the edit style you used im currently only halfway throghu the vid on the undyne section but i really liked you useing thwt one backrooms track for papyrus demonic mode lol
Bro that hate chara lich edit was one of the best thing i saw you really outdid yourself with this vidieo editing when compared to the last one its insane you seem to have even more ptsd towards hate than i do@@insertuncreativenamehere
Keep it up i abosultely adored the vid
I know you already defeated hate chara but heres another way you may be able to defeat them in the newest version...
Go to character creation pick [SUPER COOL MEGA POSE] for a normal button for example x then pick dash for x max and if you hold it while standing you will get super fast and be stuck in the left side of the room but youll be invincible but if you pick [fast slashes] (one of asgors abilitys) and use it while your stuck and go in any direction you will be free invincible and looking like a ghost (youll see what i mean when you use it:) and remember you shouldnt move while you using the dash and pose ability because it will be like a short teleport and it gets you out of the invincible mode
altough it takes a few sec and you should stand still you may be able to defeat hate chara with it by speeding up or something ?...idont really know man
(but dont get me wrong im not saying go through all that pain again im saying try it on any level you want its your choice i just said it because is a cool bug it maybe easier to defeat hate chara with this bug but im not forcing anyone to do it i might try it my self)
So yeah thats all:)id appreciate it if you did spend your time reading this comment:]
(btw dude you your videos are awesome keep it up and you really attract the undertale fandom with that video XD)
That's actually a smart idea all things considered, though I spent 9 hours just to encounter this three times, I don't think I'll be doing that again until further notice...but when I showed Woloned how I defeated it, he said I had inspired him, and all I can say is chances are he's gonna make it even scarier and more impossible, haha.
@@insertuncreativenamehere9 hours??welp i dont think ill try it either after you said 9 hours😂but its cool bug tough try it on normal levels if you want👍
3 hours per 1 is crazy
Nooo i meant 1 per 3 hour
I had one job my editing for comments dosent work so sadly i have to write again
The chances (from what I know) are 1/1200. With Sans, I got her in 15 minutes. With Flowey, I got her in 3 hours.
If not for the randomness and luck of it, I would've had this video done sooner, because trying to encounter Hate Chara took longer than anything I did in the custom character maker.
I will edit the description to show the unedited campaign footage later.
Unlike the first part (linked in the description), I used a lot more music of my own choice rather than just Undertale/Deltarune/Bonetale music, so here's a list of every music used by order of appearance:
Klaus Phase 1 (Don't Starve Together)
D.R. Style Vinyl (Don't Starve)
Broken Vessel (Hollow Knight)
Nightmare King (Hollow Knight)
RUN FOR IT! (Escape The Backrooms)
Heartache (Bonetale)
Your Lost Friend (Bonetale)
Spider Dance (Undertale)
Host of Horrors (Don't Starve Together)
Truth, Beauty, and Hatred (Hollow Knight)
Wickerbottom Title Theme (Don't Starve Together)
The Ultimate Showdown (Lemon Demon)
Celestial Champion Phase 1 (Don't Starve Together)
Soul Master (Hollow Knight)
Hotel Theme (Undertale)
Monkey Accordion (Don't Starve Together)
Nyeh Heh Heh! (Undertale)
Greenpath (Hollow Knight)
Three Days to Live (Team Fortress 2)
Klaus Phase 2 (Don't Starve Together)
Toadstool (Don't Starve)
Pandora Palace (Deltarune)
I noticed a bug where as the custom character you can attack during the starting cutscene when pressing skip while there are certain abilities put on the C binded slot.
Edit: and another bug where dying as a custom character with the rebirth ability occasionally softlocked me and I would be unable to continue, forcing me to have to restart the game
I got a super random bug where I slashed chara with asgore and we both died, BUT I STILL WON (on demonic mode)
Hey man could you try out some roblox undertale games?
There are great gems
I'll put some
UT Sands : Remake
Undertale Tower Defense/Undertale Adventures.
Undertale Soul Ops 2
26:43 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video!
34:03 like 99% of fanmade sans fights in a nutshell:
41:30 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video! x2
42:18 ohhhh so you werent supposted to not get hit, you just had to get hit too much, oblivously!
42:50 holy fakin sheet mom I am in a video! x3
I didn't even limit or keep track of how many of someone's comments I featured.
Anyways where did hate Chara even came from I'm talking about in the fandom that form just randomly appears in fan games
Hate Chara originally traces back to Glitchtale Season 1 Episodes 3-5 (I personally do not like Glitchtale, but I don't discourage watching if you need context of this Chara form). I never asked Woloned the origin of this, however, I don't believe it's intentionally Hate Chara, especially in terms of what happens in-game. The video that originally showed this secret called it that, so the Bonetale community collectively agreed that's what it was. From what I know, this is just a rare Easter egg designed to jumpscare and kill you with no hopes of fighting back, unless you're a lunatic like me.
@@insertuncreativenamehere thanks creay
29:23 what do you mean about getting cursed by annoying dog?
In 1.5 or 1.6, using the UNLOCKALL cheat will play the annoying dog music whenever you are on the main menu screen while the Toby Dog bounces around, or does other funny things while Bonetale gets "cheats addition" added to the title and every shopkeeper is permanently replaced with the Toby Dog unless you either reset your save file, or go into a file that you didn't enable cheats for. Basically, it's just a permanent reminder you used commands to unlock everything rather than earning it. Versions 1.4 or earlier do not have the Toby Dog there to pester you.
Wow! It is possible to beat hate chara! I genuinely had a bit of doubt
Makes two of us. What's funny is when I brought it up to Woloned, he said, "You're outright inspiring me," and I'm not against him making it even harder XD
@@insertuncreativenamehere LET'S GOOO! More hate Chara =)
Papyrus is actually possible u needed to use bone trap wait a bit then use dodge do it untill she transforms into chara run and when shes low Just spam bones to the wall on all ways
4:14 thats a problem with sans too
And i bet its a problem with most characters but i dont know becouse i didnt play them yet
If Chara wasn't given the allowance to disable crowd control, then the only two spells I would know are blue soul and giant gaster blaster.
13:40 I’m probably wrong, but it would be really cool if that commenter learned that glitch from me lol since I made a video on it a year back
I beat demonic mode with sans 10 times in a row while moving a lot
Do you think I am ok
35:30 Yo i found out that its not impossible. I saw one guy in the comments that said he beated it and sent proof on his channel. As for me i will start trying to beat him again (on medium mode of course)
Also 45 Minutes reviewing the update huh👀
Edit: I cant find the comment on my video he may have removed it (or i really did not find it) but i do remember it. You will kinda have to trust me on this one😅
Also i had the same glitched with undyne (and papyrus) inf hp and waterfall 2 message repeating itself 👁️
Hey, welcome here! Didn't expect to see you. Also, I guess 85-90 minutes counting the first video. And don't worry, I believe you. :)
Try getting infinite max hp by going over the limit in the custom character thing ps thought i was in the video cuz there was another tnt guy commenter near the end
I also beat the campaign with every character in like 2 to 3 tries but asgore man it took me like 5 to 7 tries to beat demonic(on easy mode 💀💀)
You take less damage with asgore when you use the trident ability, it almost nullifies the damage
Edit: yay! Got heart!
This disclamer is familiar, i guess its just a deja vu..
Dont patch immortality glitch
He actually just did that a few days ago-
Idk how people get mad for misgendering frisk/chara but other than that great video! Also how the heck could you beat phase 4 chara
There's a 43 reply long war about it in the last video, it's still there.
I really don't believe I did, like my dash lagging and one shotting Phase 1 Chara in the Frisk campaign, I think something similar happened. Quite frankly, I wasn't expecting Hate Chara to be killable in the first place.
Cool
Where is disbelief papyrus?
Disbelief Papyrus was disabled in 1.6, as Woloned was either trying to mini rework or bugfix him. At one point in the video, I equip him in 1.5 and jump back. He's fully playable, but you can't move.
@@insertuncreativenamehere I hope he gets added back soon
lol gt
Ok ill stop commenting i just like bonetale man
I don't blame you.
My comint made it in this video
Hey man could you try out some roblox undertale games?
There are great gems
I'll put some
UT Sands : Remake
Undertale Tower Defense/Undertale Adventures.
Undertale Soul Ops 2
I can confirm all sucks (in my opignon). Except Soul OPs 2 its good. Just need more frequent update