I’d love to work with Sur Ron, I’ve tried for the past two years. They will not support us because of the parts that we make for there bikes. Also sur ron will not change there design to make it better. 79 bike seems to be willing to offer there bikes with more power, better brakes, and better wheels, so why wouldn’t we help bring something potentially better to the market.
This bike is going to be a game changer- seems like the biggest drawback for other new bikes is that Surron has such a huge aftermarket advantage. But if Surron parts fit on this, seems like such a sick 72v option right out of the box!!
Thank you for the review video! About the throttle our team is fixed and change the setup! With our new controller program and throttle strategy, Let's see How far the falcon can fly in the future! The Voices/Advices from you and customers is what we need! And we're very exciting to work with the Gritshift! For the Falcon future! Alex Freeman. 79Bike Team.
Alex are any of the dimensions the same as the surron? Im interested in your bike but id feel better riding it with a pedal kit where i am. Would the surron kits fit? Kind regards, Sam.
Great video. Seen these ebikes on fb for a minute. Glad you guys got one and are helping them with input. Looks like a promising competitor. Looking forward to you guys stress testing and improving this bike!
Sucks none of the others dealers will work with you guys. You do such a great job with the bikes & give good info. Killer bike! I'll have to check it out!
I know!!! Utah or AZ is the dream. We will move or open another location possibly in the future. It’s tough where we are at, if you look at our IG content it’s all our own actual context, we are literally dedicated to riding haha we do so many turn and burn trips drive up to a race at 5 am, race, then drive back home later at night.
Why did they go with the bad cells in the battery. Just like Talaria they use the m50lt which are only rated for 7.2a discharge above 25c (so basically all the time) and push them 2x that rating stock, meaning no room for improvements power wise. I would say this is even worse than the Talaria because the main appeal is the 72v, but you can't push any more power without upgrading it, meaning you would have to buy a aftermarket 72v battery anyway so no different. I'm curious if the Eride's decided to use good cells or do the same
@@gritshift Hard to say for sure as I don't know the max amperage of the controller but I can guess. 8kw / 84v (full charge) would be 95A of discharge, or 13.5A per cell. In my opinion they should use a cell that's rated for that or even higher. Means less cell heat, better cell life, more capacity, less dangerous and room for upgrades on the end user. At the end of the day the biggest selling point is the 72v battery on this bike, but will need to be upgraded if you want more power anyway just like the 60v competition so why go with it in the first place
Yeah I agree if we are talking about a modded mx3 but stock for stock it could be debatable, the Talaria is a awesome bike. And 79 bike is still so new so there are many unknowns still.
Not entirely sure yet we will be making another video next week of us thrashing it at a track and then seeing what parts do and don’t fit from other bikes
@@gritshiftguys, please also check, wether a stock battery from Surron will fit into the 79bike battery chamber. It looks like it should fit, but I just want to know whether it will be just the right size or it will stagger a bit. Or who knows, maybe it won't fit at all
It would be unfair to compare that bike to anything we have. The pro ss looks great, but there are so many little things that are different on it that could completely change the ergonomics of the bike. For example the rear suspension linkage setup is completely different. Might be better might be worse, also that alone being that it’s different is it stronger or weaker. Also the frame design looks nice but is it actually stronger. I’d love to get our hands on one to actually test. Sur ronster did a great job on his review video but I think someone needs to push the bike hard to see how it does.
@@gritshift I love how so many companies are making better versions, forces surron to get better. The biggest argument against these new bikes will always be lack of aftermarket support for the first couple years after coming out. Because let’s face it no matter how awesome the bike is out of the box people will always want to upgrade them.
Yeah exactly!! And I think sur ron nailed it with the ultra. Let’s see what they do about the lightbee next. And yes this bike seems to have a lot of similarities to other bikes which is why we had interest, because I know I don’t want to wait for aftermarket support
Then you plugged it back in while the breaker was on noticed the click noise that’s the metals slowly bonding together, eventually with enough times of doing that it can weld solid
Actually unpluging and pluging back in, in such a short interval with no voltage increase is not a problem, because the system still has stored power in it (Controller Capacitors). Also the click noise was overlapping audio from the main clip when I edited the video.
Will be interesting to see if they listen to yall and build a bike we actually want. Moto brakes and 10kw or 12kw 19/16 wheels and id say that suspension has got to go as well.
crazy to see all these new 72v coming out doing around 55mph. while the lil ole talaria xxx 60v is almost doing 50mph, it will be interesting to see competition on a 3k- 3,5k$ bike
The Talaria X3 is a beast for the price point for sure, I think it will be hard to beat. But we will see. We are at an interesting time with all of these company’s coming into market. All while the big manufacturers KTM, Yamaha, Honda, etc learn from all of this. It’s only a matter of time before they come out with something insane.
Yooooooooo👏... The Specs on this are insane!... I want one more than a new Sur-Ron 👌
all these brands like sur ron, talaria, e ride pro, all they are is distributors. distributing slightly different chinese clones of one another
I don’t think you know sotions motors.
E ride pro isnt really Chinese
@@Brycediaz431 79 is less Chinese then the Eride, they have Thai parts
Little latch door thing is called charging port cover assumingly
Need to comparison with a new Pro SS 19” e-bike.
LOL why this copy? if there is an original surron
The Surron is for girls. Talaria for boys.
@@jblenh While the Men then ride on the surron ULTRA BEE
@@dbash8182 and kings ride the Stark Varg
I’d love to work with Sur Ron, I’ve tried for the past two years. They will not support us because of the parts that we make for there bikes. Also sur ron will not change there design to make it better. 79 bike seems to be willing to offer there bikes with more power, better brakes, and better wheels, so why wouldn’t we help bring something potentially better to the market.
@@dbash8182 Girly men. Real men ride a 300 2 stroke.
Lol it's a surron that looks worse stop treating it like anything else
How tf does it look worse? You're confusing people. It looks the same and has a 72v battery,
This bike is going to be a game changer- seems like the biggest drawback for other new bikes is that Surron has such a huge aftermarket advantage. But if Surron parts fit on this, seems like such a sick 72v option right out of the box!!
Thank you for the review video!
About the throttle our team is fixed and change the setup!
With our new controller program and throttle strategy, Let's see How far the falcon can fly in the future!
The Voices/Advices from you and customers is what we need!
And we're very exciting to work with the Gritshift!
For the Falcon future!
Alex Freeman.
79Bike Team.
Alex are any of the dimensions the same as the surron? Im interested in your bike but id feel better riding it with a pedal kit where i am. Would the surron kits fit?
Kind regards, Sam.
Great video. Seen these ebikes on fb for a minute. Glad you guys got one and are helping them with input. Looks like a promising competitor. Looking forward to you guys stress testing and improving this bike!
Sucks none of the others dealers will work with you guys. You do such a great job with the bikes & give good info. Killer bike! I'll have to check it out!
Won’t stop us from doing what we love lol
Your company is awesome. Dealers should be lining up to work with you. Thanks for the video, extremely informative.
You guys need to move your shop to New Mexico or Utah or something. There’s tons of riding spots
I know!!! Utah or AZ is the dream. We will move or open another location possibly in the future. It’s tough where we are at, if you look at our IG content it’s all our own actual context, we are literally dedicated to riding haha we do so many turn and burn trips drive up to a race at 5 am, race, then drive back home later at night.
is this like a ripoff surron
from like china
When are you gonna do some more testing and videos on the falcon? I’d like more info maybe before I buy one
Why did they go with the bad cells in the battery. Just like Talaria they use the m50lt which are only rated for 7.2a discharge above 25c (so basically all the time) and push them 2x that rating stock, meaning no room for improvements power wise. I would say this is even worse than the Talaria because the main appeal is the 72v, but you can't push any more power without upgrading it, meaning you would have to buy a aftermarket 72v battery anyway so no different. I'm curious if the Eride's decided to use good cells or do the same
What cells would you say are reasonable for them to use?
@@gritshift Hard to say for sure as I don't know the max amperage of the controller but I can guess. 8kw / 84v (full charge) would be 95A of discharge, or 13.5A per cell. In my opinion they should use a cell that's rated for that or even higher. Means less cell heat, better cell life, more capacity, less dangerous and room for upgrades on the end user. At the end of the day the biggest selling point is the 72v battery on this bike, but will need to be upgraded if you want more power anyway just like the 60v competition so why go with it in the first place
vids in 360p
I think that’s because it was not fully uploaded, should be better now.
So it seems to be the biggest drawback to this is the delay on the throttle, nothing a domino throttle cant fix
72v 🤟👽🎬
I think I still like my (modded) MX3 better. Thanks for the video.
Yeah I agree if we are talking about a modded mx3 but stock for stock it could be debatable, the Talaria is a awesome bike. And 79 bike is still so new so there are many unknowns still.
How fast can it go?
Whats the price on one of these? Its not showing up on web sight at all.
$4,399
Does that battery fit a talaria?
Not entirely sure yet we will be making another video next week of us thrashing it at a track and then seeing what parts do and don’t fit from other bikes
@@gritshift thanks mate looking forward to watching.
Yeah no problem we will keep everyone posted on future videos!
@@gritshiftguys, please also check, wether a stock battery from Surron will fit into the 79bike battery chamber. It looks like it should fit, but I just want to know whether it will be just the right size or it will stagger a bit. Or who knows, maybe it won't fit at all
@@gritshift still waiting for your video to figure out what parts from surron fit Falcon-M. Especially surron battery !
19/17 would be sweet!
How do you compare this to the new E-Ride Pro 72v bike that Surronster did a video about yesterday
It would be unfair to compare that bike to anything we have. The pro ss looks great, but there are so many little things that are different on it that could completely change the ergonomics of the bike. For example the rear suspension linkage setup is completely different. Might be better might be worse, also that alone being that it’s different is it stronger or weaker. Also the frame design looks nice but is it actually stronger.
I’d love to get our hands on one to actually test. Sur ronster did a great job on his review video but I think someone needs to push the bike hard to see how it does.
@@gritshift I love how so many companies are making better versions, forces surron to get better. The biggest argument against these new bikes will always be lack of aftermarket support for the first couple years after coming out. Because let’s face it no matter how awesome the bike is out of the box people will always want to upgrade them.
Yeah exactly!! And I think sur ron nailed it with the ultra. Let’s see what they do about the lightbee next. And yes this bike seems to have a lot of similarities to other bikes which is why we had interest, because I know I don’t want to wait for aftermarket support
Bro, turn off the breaker before you unplug it come on makes you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about
Then you plugged it back in while the breaker was on noticed the click noise that’s the metals slowly bonding together, eventually with enough times of doing that it can weld solid
Actually unpluging and pluging back in, in such a short interval with no voltage increase is not a problem, because the system still has stored power in it (Controller Capacitors). Also the click noise was overlapping audio from the main clip when I edited the video.
Will be interesting to see if they listen to yall and build a bike we actually want. Moto brakes and 10kw or 12kw 19/16 wheels and id say that suspension has got to go as well.
crazy to see all these new 72v coming out doing around 55mph. while the lil ole talaria xxx 60v is almost doing 50mph, it will be interesting to see competition on a 3k- 3,5k$ bike
The Talaria X3 is a beast for the price point for sure, I think it will be hard to beat. But we will see. We are at an interesting time with all of these company’s coming into market. All while the big manufacturers KTM, Yamaha, Honda, etc learn from all of this. It’s only a matter of time before they come out with something insane.